Picky Boys Podcast - Ending The "IS FISH MEAT?" Debate!!! - Picky Boys Podcast #358

Episode Date: January 19, 2025

Join the Patreon for more videos!- https://www.patreon.com/pickyboys On today's episode, JT, Danny, and Antonio celebrate Antonio's birthday and open up some gifts! Then, discuss Antonio's cheating scandal (which was rectified!), JT's cooking skills & the Maillard reaction, the return of the fish vs. meat debate, and why snakes shouldn't be trusted! Leave a comment down below and settle the debate once and for all...IS FISH MEAT? New Subathon & Valentine's Day Merch OUT NOW! - https://pickyboys-shop.fourthwall.com/ Follow Us On Twitch - https://www.twitch.tv/thepickyboys Make sure to check out all of the guests on today's episode: JT - https://www.instagram.com/thejballs/ Antonio - https://www.instagram.com/antprisco/ Danny - https://www.instagram.com/dannyiswatching/ Send us mail here! Picky Boys Podcast PO Box 740050 9224 Queens Blvd Rego Park, NY 11374 Picky Boys - https://www.instagram.com/thepickyboys/  

You are owed a punishment, and I will make sure that that happens one way or another. First of all, I would never hang out with a dirty, bottom-feeding, scum-of-the-earth pescatarian. I'll take a mouse problem over a snake problem. Any day of the week. Any day of the week. I can live with the mice. What's a snake problem, exactly? Oh, well, a father.

Chicken is poultry, not meat. Was that your dad or the priest? That was the priest. Oh. Wait, what? Alrighty Welcome back to the picky boys It's Antonio's birthday

Happy happy birthday Happy happy happy Look at this We wish it was our birthday so we could party too Is that how that goes? That's like the Chili's thing Piece of bread This is a piece of bread sent in by Haley

Haley's bread basket Nice And it's a piece of sourdough And it's got the picky logo on it How do you do that? That's impressive I know. I can't. You can give me ten tries.

I can probably do it on the first. And I thought that we could use this as your cake. As my cake? Yeah, so I'm just going to. Do you have a candle? Yeah. Wait, actually? Yeah, of course.

I'm just going to go like this. Why are you fingering the dough? I'm glad I can't eat that. Do you actually have a candle? Are you pulling it out of your ass? Oh. Ta-da. Wow.

Can they even see it? Nope. No, they can't. Not yet. Lift that up. look at that wow thank you oh don't light it i was gonna light it don't it's okay i don't think we need to play with fire but this is very nice thank you you're welcome happy birthday and as per oh thank you thank you i'll keep this here over there and as per tradition um i have to get

you both gifts on my birthday that's true and i i brought those here uh today oh snap oh yeah This is January 16th, by the way Yeah Not to date us Yeah, this is coming out Alright, this is the bag But I'm gonna put it on the ground Because

It says happy birthday It says happy birthday And this is for you guys Actually, this is a gift that Jason got me And I used his bag Listen, I'm a big believer in the bag Bag over wrapping paper any day Alright

So it's a two-part gift For both of you Two-parter This guy went all out First one is Here for JT This is yours Oh, goodness.

I heard something. Oh, let's go. Got him some Moscow noodles. Is this what you had delivered yesterday that I got the door for? Yeah, I did time it wrong. And then there's a second gift for you, but I'm going to give Danny both of his at the same time. I got Danny a new MacBook charger.

Oh, wow. Look at that. That is 140 watts and a 240 watt cable capability. Wow, thank you. This is going to change my life. The wire also, guess how many feet? How many feet? 10 feet of wire.

Wow. 10 feet of wire. I got you 10 feet of wire. I can be anywhere in my room. I can charge. I can go around the entire radius. I don't think he can. Not anywhere.

Yeah. So Danny doesn't have to crawl next to an outlet anymore with his broken ass. Well, that's very nice. Thank you very much. And then JT for the second part of his gift. I got an extra large. Oh, my goodness. Pack of Reese's Fast Break.

Oh, my goodness. This is going to be gone in a day. It's going to be God of the Day. I got Moscow Mules and Reese's. That's a good Friday night for JT. It's a good Friday night for JT. What does a 10-foot wire even look like? Oh, God.

I was debating getting him, like, a half-a-foot wire. I already have a half-foot wire. Is that how big it is? It's probably 18 inches. You should have got him, like, a 6-inch extension. Yeah, right? Wow, look at this. It's two of them.

why is there two I don't know just came with two you could have two cause you're gonna lose one oh yeah look at that

and now my phone is USB too so everything I am now plugged in from anywhere you can use one on your new switch

that's true too whoa look how long that could be yeah this is this is gonna change my life I can now stop working in bed

I'm not going to no he's not going to but you can I can be at the other side of the bed right you could yeah

cause right now my bed has two modes it's basically work and sleep yeah work and sleep so i'm sleeping my pillows on one side and then the outlets towards the back so when i'm in work mode i flip everything around and uh yeah but that's yeah maybe we could stop doing that we can we can thank you very much yeah so i went uh like kid in a play store and then i went functional yes functional kid in a play store gets a moscow moscow yeah an adult in a play store gets moscow mules and candy These are good ones, too. These are strong ones.

Yeah, how you doing? I tried just about all the Moscow mules. No, fair enough. And then he's lighting it. What did you stop? All right. I can't even see that. They can see it.

I brought it over here. They can see it. It smells really good. Oh, let me do it. All right, so what kind of punishments are going on there, Brad? I got flour in my nose. Are you going to take a piece? Take a piece?

JT can't eat this. It's good sour, though. It's good sour, though. I just stuck his fingers in there and wiggled them around. I don't want to eat it. You did. Unbelievably. Whose mother started it?

What's the mother dough? I want to see the mother dough. Oh, how old is the mother dough? How old is the mother dough, Haley? It's been in the family for countless generations. Did I say that right? Haley's bread basket. Haley's bread basket.

Awesome. Haley sent an entire P.O. Box package. We also have another P.O. Box package coming. So that video is going to be on Patreon. Here we go. We just opened this because it was, you know. A cake. You needed to eat it quickly.

Bread cake. It was a bread cake. I do think I read some of the comments in the last YouTube video. Oh, you're a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater. I didn't even notice. I'm getting attacked. I didn't even notice. Listen, I'm going to defend myself.

Don't. Why? A little bit. A little bit. Because if you haven't watched, it's the burger. We had to make burgers on a conveyor belt. You could go watch that if you want. This is what happened.

First of all, there was two complaints of me cheating. I only will take one as valid. The other one I don't take at all. When I got the burger and I put the burger down, I grabbed the plate like that and put it down. That counts to me. That counts to me. That is cheating?

No, that's what they said. That counts to me. Yeah, that's fine to me. I thought they said that your burgers fell apart and you used your hands to... My burgers never fell apart. That's bananas. But, that's bananas.

Your hands were not supposed to touch the ingredients. as listed in the rules. But I'm saying you can't put it down like that. So I grabbed the plate like that, like a crane. That's what I did. That's why mine fell apart a bunch of times. All right, well, you're in bad strategy. And I held it like that and put it down like a crane.

After, I already did it like that. Now, I don't consider that cheating. But apparently, what was cheating was on the conveyor belt, I would slide the burger back. Obvious cheating. Which is probably cheating. But in my head, I don't know if it's in the edit. I only did it because I saw Danny move his burger on the conveyor belt.

Did not. I moved my burger on the conveyor belt once as a joke, but that happened. I looked back at this video. That happened around after you pushed yours back. Obviously, the challenge is that you have to make the burger and plate it before it gets to the end of the conveyor belt. So taking your tweezers and pushing it back is extending that time and is cheating. But it's risk of falling on the burger, one. It doesn't matter.

I was the only one trying to do multiple burgers at the same time. Well, you shouldn't have done that. I was the only one trying to do things, so I cheated because I was doing harder things. He moved the burger on the conveyor belt also. It was a joke, and I moved it forward. Oh, it was a joke when he does it. And I moved it forward, which would be debilitating to me. No, that's cheating, too.

No, that would be debilitating to me. If you push the conveyor belt, if you push the burger on the conveyor belt further to beat the time, that's also cheating. The funniest part is that you did this in the first round, I pushed it forward in the second round, and when I pushed it forward, you said, hey, you can't do that. So you self-reported your own cheating, calling out my cheating, even though you cheated previously. So, I mean, that's more your problem to me. So, I mean. Also, we had a game master, said nothing. Well, I mean, he should have been paying attention more.

Well, first of all, it has nothing to do with me paying attention, because I absolutely noticed every instance of him cheating and chose to say nothing. Well, then this is bullshit. But also, we're pretending to act like it really mattered. That's the reason why you lost. I definitely saw. So this is what happened. Because he's explaining it, you know, a little favorably towards himself. What you did, which I noticed, and I went, I'll allow it.

See? After, he would successfully get it on his plate, right? He would get it on his, hold the plate there, the burger would come off. Burger would be a little sloppy, a little leaning tower of burger toppings. and you would grab it like this, grab the plate like this, and kind of with your fingers here fix the burger while you put it down.

And I went, listen, if you're not cheating, you're not trying, and I let him get away with it. Now, I have a question for you logistically. What would you rather do? Would you rather feel the wrath of the YouTube comments or eat the worst burger ever that Danny had to eat? Oh, the wrath of the YouTube comments.

Okay, that's what I thought. I mean, I think it's perfectly reasonable that you have to do a supplementary punishment for cheating. Oh, I disagree. Also, I saw another comment where it was like, oh, and then when he had the burger, he took off the tomato. That's not true. I took two big bites with the tomato,

and then there was a huge, which was what you're supposed to do, two huge bites, and then I wanted to eat the burger, so I took a piece of the tomato off and I ate the rest of it. No, yeah, that was fine. You're just looking to come at me. I didn't mind that, but you did cheat, and there was a round that was cut out, But the one with you holding the plate was bad

because there was a round that was cut out where I lost on that. I successfully plated it. And then when putting it down, it all fell apart. If I grabbed it with my meaty claws like you did, it wouldn't have fallen apart. If you grabbed it like a claw game, kind of. Yes.

Which is cheating. I don't see why that's cheating. Your hands touching the ingredients. I didn't really touch the ingredients. You definitely shouldn't touch ingredients. And I transferred hands, which is harder. And then I grabbed the plate like that, You know, like that little thing.

Also, my birthday, by the way. So how about we relax a little bit? Even cheaters have birthdays. That's true. Everyone has a birthday. Everyone has a birthday. But I just want to be clear. Danny also cheated, but he's not getting any wrath.

I did not cheat. You know why he's not getting any wrath? Because it's tough when you cheat and still lose. I didn't cheat. It was a joke. Oh, it's a joke. A little, little joke. It was obviously I couldn't do anything, so I went, oh.

And again, I'm not going to get back into this. Just saying. But you are owed a punishment, and I will make sure that that happens one way or another. Will there be clams involved? I don't know yet. What does that mean? What did you call it? It wasn't the chicken of the sea.

What is it? That's tuna. The bacon of the sea. So tuna's the chicken of the sea. Yes. Clams are the bacon. Okay. What's the steak?

That can't be true. I don't know what the steak of the sea is. Probably salmon. Ooh. Salmon's salmon. Yeah, but it's salmon. Technically, tuna's supposed to be the steak of the sea, right? No, tuna's the chicken.

I know, but you can have tuna steak. Yeah, you can. So. I only like tuna when it is like that. I only like pink tuna. I don't like that white, like, shreddy. I don't mind it, but that pink, like, tuna tartare. Oh, yes, yes, yes.

Jesus Christ, I'm hungry now. You guys love your food just not cooked. It's so disgusting. That's not true. That's not true. It's so disgusting. Fucking burrito bowl king over here. Yeah, oh, yeah, you did a cooking stream.

How was that? I did a cooking stream. It was great. Oh, actually, it wasn't great. I learned a billion things from the Twitch chat that were not true at all. That were not true. Yeah, no, Twitch chat, it's insane how much they just, like, I think if you stream any top, like,

because Twitch chat will tell me a billion things about stuff I don't know. Right. And I'll go, oh, okay, and I'll believe it. And then they say stuff about things you might, that you do know, and you go, huh, that's not true. So now I'm questioning everything else I've learned through you, Twitch chat. That's fair. That is fair.

They were saying a few right things that you were doing wrong, though. I'm sure there were, but it was mixed in a sea of wrong things. So if it's all 50-50, what's the point? I would say most notably the actual wrong thing is waiting to put the hot food in the refrigerator. That's wrong. The most notably wrong thing by him or them? By him. No, that's false.

That's completely safe. Look it up, Jason. Completely, completely safe. I heard that from Maren. I have a question for you, Danny. Are you an old wife? Someone put some Google screenshot in the Discord that seemed to have proven it. After my Google screenshot, this proved it.

So is it bad to put hot food in the fridge? Thank you. Thank you, thank you. According to USDA, by the way. All right, well then, I think you did everything right. Just think about it logically. Why would putting hot food in a fridge be unsafe? There's something about bacteria, pressure, bacteria, something like that.

But it is sort of saying, like, in small containers, but if it's a big container, you should break it up. No, what it's saying, and this is what the screenshot someone else sent was, is that if it's at a risk of heating up your whole fridge so much that it's going to make your milk spoil, your yogurt, your cheese go bad, then that's unsafe. You have, like, a pot of chili in there, and that becomes, like, a faux fire, basically, that's lighting all your food on fire. If you were going to put a big stew, right? A big boiling pot of stew would do that.

If I'm putting my lukewarm burrito bowls in there, I think I'm safe. I was there. They were fairly lukewarm. They were lukewarm. Also, people are yelling at me to wash my rice. Guess what, guys? I buy pre-washed rice dum-dums. It says on the package, do not wash.

Got them. I don't know why you wouldn't wash. Why would I say do not wash? Because it's enriched. You've never been enriched, have you? I am now. They add vitamins and stuff to it. So you're washing it out by doing that.

That's an easy way to... If I was picking the rice out of the fields myself, I would wash it. Right. That makes sense. Is there a reason that you don't season your meats whilst cooking? Yeah. It's because some seasonings burn and some don't. And I don't know which burn and which don't, so I just do it all after.

Gotcha. Because, I mean, I don't know this at all, but I think that there's something about a melting pot of, like, oh, it's getting heat with the seasoning. It's incorporating all the flavors together, yada, yada. For sure. You could at least season it halfway through. For sure. And I'm sure it would taste better. Again, guys, I'm not claiming to be the perfect person here.

I thought the most egregious thing was meat into an ice-cold pan. I thought that was— What's wrong with that? I don't get that. It's like you don't get a sear. It doesn't really cook— You aren't supposed to heat up your pan a little bit. It cooks weird.

I don't think it cooks weird at all. Oh, Jason's got something. I think it does. If you put ground beef into a pan and then heat it up after. Yeah. Ice cold. It was room temperature. It's in the house.

Metal gets pretty cold. Also, I see where you store your pots. It's in the fridge, by the way. No, it's not. It's in a cabinet. Yeah, but it's cold up there. You know metal doesn't get any colder than the stuff around it, right? The metals and the alloys.

If the room is 70 degrees, the metal in the room is 70 degrees. It feels colder, but it's not. Right, but you're saying, oh, it's room temperature. If the room is 40 degrees, that's a cold pot. Our kitchen is not 40 degrees. If the room is 45 degrees, that's a cold pot. I do think you should probably heat up your pan. But what?

Like, no one for any of the things they say can give me, like, a good, like— You definitely get a good sear. In detail reason. Sear on ground beef? It's not a steak. You can sear on every meat. You get little crispy bits, you know? I don't want my ground beef crispy.

Are you guys insane? He piggybacked off the crispy cake. Why? Putting meat into a cold pan, what does that do? It doesn't matter if you put meat into a cold pan. This is a long tie for Jason. Hold on. People are yelling at me for not draining my beef, bro.

There's nothing to drain. It can significantly affect the cooking process. Good crust on meat. Again, this is saying meat. We need ground beef. I need you to put ground beef. No, totally different. Guys, we don't want crust.

You're missing the Maillard reaction. Yeah. Guys, Jason, ground beef. First of all, these guys can't even agree on what meat is. We'll get to that in a second. Do you want to miss the Maillard reaction? You can't. Browning and Maillard reaction.

I don't want my beef, my ground beef crispy. Make sure your skill is top four adding ground beef. Hey, JT. All right, all right, all right. As it heats up, the meat begins to steam, which makes it look dull or gray, which is totally true in your case. Absolutely. It's very gray.

That was a gray. Well, the exposure on the camera was a little. It's fine. I think it was gray as shit. All right, all right. How about this? How about this? I'm gonna make my Brutables

I'm gonna make two sets of them One I'm gonna put in a hot pan when I put the brown even One's gonna be cold, I'm gonna do a blind taste test You guys are not gonna go fuck all It's gonna have to be a blind taste test Because one's gonna look grey and one's gonna be brown But they won't taste any different Look at the Maillard, type in Maillard reaction

You don't even know if you're saying that word right It had two L's in it I think it's Maillard reaction And it is spelt like male And large I'm almost positive it's Maillard reaction Maillard? You're missing four letters if you say it that way.

How to pronounce Maillard reaction. No, no, no. I want you to pronounce all the words in the description. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go, go, go. Which ones? Start with what it does. Yeah, what it does.

What it does. Creates melon-dynas? Melonids? I don't know. Either way. But it gives brown foods their distinctive flavor. You're missing out on the distinctive flavor. Boosts antioxidants.

Also, can we type in how to pronounce Maillard? So essentially, you're just eating gray matter. You're cooking it wrong. You're not getting all the antioxidants, the peptides. The Maillard in the examples, ground beef not mentioned. Maillard. I'll take that. Honestly, that's closer than I thought he would be.

Wait, so there's no D? Can we talk about this whole meat controversy? The schmeat controversy? Why is he trying to light this? Meat? Yeah, on the subathon. I was I had COVID

I wasn't even there but apparently there was a whole discussion about what meat was oh Jesus I'm not doing this I'm not doing this I'm not doing this

well you guys are trying to teach me about the Bayard reaction and you can't even agree on what meat is to be fair you don't even agree between each other

first of all I think we just agreed to differing differing strengths well now you gotta explain what it is quick alright so

somehow or another came up the topic of what is meat and Antonio doesn't consider chicken or fish meat and I believe danny doesn't consider fish meat but is is open to the idea of chicken being meat yeah i i think i

think by all by technicality and by definition fish is meat but in a culinary sense and also and and also just just kind of socially fish is typically not considered meat which by the way i provided multiple examples on google different reasons as to why it's not considered meat and Nobody said anything about that. I don't care about any of your reasons. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I also said it's a Catholic scam. It's not just about religion.

It's so that they can get away with eating meat on Friday. I mean, I agree with that. And when I was a young Catholic boy, I used to say on Friday, oh, well, Father, chicken is poultry, not meat. Was that your dad or the priest? That was the priest. Oh. Wait, what?

You said Father. Father the priest, obviously. Oh, I thought you were talking to your dad. No. Oh, Father. Oh, Holy Father. Wait, now it's your dad? No, it's the priest.

And I said, chicken is poultry, technically not meat. And he said, chicken's meat. I got meat. Anyway, but yes, no. It's not just religious reasons. Also, culinarily, it's usually separated from meat. I sent them a picture of a menu at a restaurant, and it had a fish, steak, chicken.

And I said, everyone go scratch. And I rested my case there. Well, again, so this- Well, that's not helping your point. It had fish, meat, chicken. And there was a – Your example had a fish, meat, poultry. And in the meat section, there was – what was it?

There was chicken. Or there was fish or something. There was nothing there. No, it was – There was a dish in there that wasn't – No, no, no. There was a seafood dish that said crab meat, but it wasn't in the meat section. Thank you.

It just said crab meat, and some people were saying, oh, this says meat, so this must be meat. I didn't read the whole menu. I'll take your word for it. well I think that here's what I think I think that you're you gotta ditch this guy

cause having this guy on your side is making your side worse you could convince people fish isn't meat but you're stuck with this guy who thinks

fucking chickens aren't meat I agree with that you are hurting my argument you're making it worse and look you gotta ditch him you gotta cut the finger to save the hand

don't ditch me wait wait this is what I asked it was as simple as this I said hey if I said can you bring me a plate of meat

There would be no fish or chicken on there. There would be none. That was my argument. I think that's a fair argument. Bring me a plate of meat. Or if you ordered a meat dish and then you got fish, you'd be like, what the scallop is going on here? I disagree. And I think that when someone's making me a dinner and they're like, oh, we're doing the rice and we're doing the beans and we're doing this and that.

I'd be like, oh, what's the meat? What's the protein? What's the meat? And they said chicken. I wouldn't be like, oh, well, actually, that's not meat. It's a poultry. That's stupid because, like, oh, what's the protein? What if it's chickpeas?

Chickpeas is protein. Is that meat now? It's dumb. No. You combine two. First of all, there's going to be a violent crime that night if they serve me chickpeas and say, oh, yeah, this is the protein. No, they said it's the meat because meat and protein, same thing.

If it's protein, it makes meat. That argument made even less sense, what he said. I'm just saying if you look up right now, is fish meat, there's a bunch of reasons why it's not. And one of them, it constitutes something about, it's like basically land versus sea. That's one of the arguments that fish is fish and anything on land is meat. There's also something about their blood. No, but chicken can fly, though.

No, they can't. Well, they have wings. They can kind of glide a little bit. I mean, poultry is certainly a category within meat. That is turkeys, chickens, pheasants, all this shit. What your definition of meat is, we already have a word for it, and it's called red meat. Everything you would consider – everything under red meat, you would consider meat, right? Venison, lamb, beef, pig.

Is there anything else? Is pig red meat? Yeah. We already have a word for it. It's just red meat. But you, under your definition, meat and red meat are the same exact thing. That's to be able to have you dummies know the difference, obviously, because we're like, oh, we can't just say meat in front of these dummies. So now we have to call it red meat.

Oh, that's the reason. Okay, if someone... Here we go. If someone... Do it. You and a person, a business, a client person, decided to go where for dinner. And they said, oh, I don't eat meat.

Okay. And then, so you have to finagle, like, okay, what place has vegetarian options? Well, that means... And then, oh, no, no, no. And you get there, and then they order, they go, yeah, I'll have the fucking rotisserie chicken. And you go, you kidding me?

You didn't tell me you could have chicken? First of all, first of all. I agree with JT on that one. I'm not going to lie. That's a good one. But again, this example is where his example falls apart. Because if someone said that to you and then had fish, you'd say, oh, they're pescatarian. They don't eat meat, but they eat fish.

Disagree. First of all, first of all, I would never hang out with a dirty, bottom-feeding, scum-of-the-earth pescatarian. Pescatarian is just someone who they have all the vegan and the vegetarian morals and ethics, and they go oh but lobster's really good they fucking pescetarians suck

well everybody knows fish can't think dolphins are pretty close well don't eat dolphin dolphin would definitely be meat it's a mammal it's a mammal

yeah I disagree though but but not under his thing I would just think land and sea but I would just think that person is an idiot

like why do I have to like why are they right because they're an idiot you know what I mean like why why is it because they who are we talking about pescetarian or vegetarian

the one that didn't want meat but then ate chicken Okay. Well, you would agree with them. My example is more like there's people that are just goddamn weird because I knew someone that was like, oh, I'm a vegetarian, but I eat fish. I'm like, so then you're not a vegetarian. I just think people don't know what they are.

And we need some inner reflection. You don't think for the pescetarian thing it would make more sense if they said, I don't eat meat except fish? You don't think that's like the more logical way to describe it? I don't think that's how most pescetarians describe it. I think they say, I don't eat meat, but I eat fish. Again, I value their opinions very little, but you're probably right. That's what I'm saying.

Jason, look up the thing. Say, is fish meat? Just look it up. It's right there on the print. I'm black and white. I could find a thousand things. Fish is not considered meat because it's cold-blooded. Okay, but if it's cold-blooded.

So, Danny, would you consider someone eating fucking alligator? Is that meat? That's a better question. That's a cold-blooded marine animal. That's a better question. I don't really know. You ever seen it? It looks like chicken.

Alligator has, I think it has red meat and white meat in it. I think the tail's white meat. Or maybe not, no, not red, but dark. So it's like a chicken. It's got dark meat and white meat. I've only had the white meat. I've had alligator nuggets. Pretty good.

I know for a fact alligator doesn't taste good. I haven't tried it. I can't imagine it tastes good. It tastes good. Does it have a fishy taste? No. Impossible. Swampy?

Not really. It has to taste swampy. Bro, it has to taste swampy. It's marinated in a swamp for 20 years. I despise when people say it tastes like chicken. See, I was worried you were going to say that. I really do, but alligator tastes the most like chicken than anything that anybody's ever said that pork does. Didn't you say guinea pig tastes like chicken, too?

No, that tasted like pork. You said it tastes like pig. Oh, that makes sense. Because it's more like fatty and has a red meat. Either way, the alligator was very neutral. Whatever sauce you put on it, that's what it's going to taste like, which is just like chicken. Can you look up if alligators meat real quick? And then we'll do...

Look up alligators shmeat. I'm sure it's just called alligator meat, right? You wouldn't call it anything else. Is alligator meat or fish? This is what I'm wondering. Yes, alligator meat is meat that is eaten by humans. See, this is just like... But this doesn't follow...

Yeah, that's just some nerd... It doesn't even say is meat. You looked up the answer. They found the one you didn't like and then went at it. No, because it didn't give anything. It's by AI. It didn't give anything. Consider it seafood.

See, that's a good question. Is it seafood? That's what I was wondering. Is it fish or meat? Not just like, oh, it is meat because it's eaten by humans. It doesn't have to be fish. It can be seafood. Because, like, an oyster isn't fish, but it's definitely seafood.

Eh, that's fish. It's not fish. Alligators are definitely seafood. No, I'm agreeing with you. But I'm saying seafood and fish are different. Because it doesn't even have to be from the sea to be seafood, right? It could be from a lake. Yeah.

Like, if you caught a fish from a lake, it's still seafood, I think. What was the question? Well, he's just calling it all fish. Yeah. And I'm saying there's a difference between fish and seafood. I know, but it's all fish. Because oysters, oysters, shellfish, oysters. I mean, that's not fish.

It's not fish. Shellfish. Shellfish. It's all fish. Otherwise known as crustacean. There's no fish in that. Yeah, I get there's breakdowns. But wait, what's a shellfish?

I know it's... Oysters, clams, shrimp. So why shrimp? They have shells? Yeah. Yeah. Shrimp is like a little cockroach of the sea. They're kind of gross, honestly.

You ever see those videos of the people that hunt the catfish with their arms? Oh, noodling. Would you do that? Yeah, you can die doing that, though. It's very dangerous. How do you die? They drown you. Yeah, some catfish are huge, and they wrestle you around.

See, that is... Bigger than a person? Just heavier. More powerful than a person? And you're in a swamp. A swampy, you know, air territory, I guess. I mean, and on the wrong breath, they just got to keep you down there for 10 seconds, panicking.

That's very true. On a down breath? Oh, yeah, that could kill me. This is a catfish? Yeah. 736 pounds? Yeah. I think that could get your boss.

Why would you use your fingers as bait for this? No, they use their arms. Well, they don't have teeth, so you use it. You basically go like this, and you wiggle, and it thinks it's like a worm or whatever. And then once your arm is inside, you basically grab it from the inside and lift it up. That is something. I can't believe you would ever do this. Oh, I'd shit myself if I did this.

3,000 patrons, Danny. No, no, no. Danny's going to go giant. No, no, no. If you click on that one on the bottom left, I would noodle that one. This one? No, not that one. That one's way too big.

That one, yeah. I think this is more of a typical noodle type situation. I'd noodle the hell out of that. Someone in our Discord chat said they used to get drunk and go noodling. It sounds really dangerous. That's how people die. Okay, I get it now. Now we get it.

I can't believe you would ever say yes to doing this, ever. No, once I was there, I'd probably back out. We know. Yeah, that makes sense, actually. Look how funny it looks, though. That's funny to you? Dude, you shove your arm. I can't.

I can't do it. Again, there's no teeth. It can't hurt you. It can't take your arm off. Yeah, what if there's something in there? That's a good point. Thank you. Because you can't trust what that thing's eating.

It doesn't look like a cat at all. That thing doesn't trust where my arm's been. You think I trust where that mouth's been? Look at that. No way. It has whiskers, maybe. Yeah, I think it's a whiskery. Yeah, it's a whiskery thing.

Disgusting. Jason, would you do that? Would you noodle this catfish? No, but I could be convinced. Can you type in catfish noodle? I could be convinced. It tastes really good. It has long-ass fingers.

I'd get pulled down under, what did you say? Just catfish noodle, noodling or something. I want to see somebody with their hand fist deep in a, yeah, there we go. Would you relax? Relax a little. The thing I wouldn't, I wouldn't enjoy the flopping of it. Right. Like, even when I, like, I've been fishing a few times,

and even when you're holding it, sometimes it'll do a flop, and I don't like that. Oh, see, that looks. Have you eaten that? Yeah. Any good? Yeah. Wait, look, that does look painful.

What happened? I mean, they're still clamping down on you. Yeah, I think the weight and everything. Oh, that looks more like, you know, when you rub your hand really hard? Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, if this, they are predators. If they don't have teeth, they must have crazy bite force and suction. Well, you would have a glove.

I wouldn't have you noodle that raw. You would have some protection. I would never noodle raw. Yeah, you would have some protection. Oh, man, I think you'd be the laughingstock of Louisiana if you noodled with a glove on. I heard in Louisiana they all noodle raw. Yeah, they noodle raw. Wait, hold on.

Go to Meat Eater, the article on the top right. Oh, wait, this is a great point. How do you know you're not attracting snapping turtles, snakes, alligators, otters, and beavers? That's the real problem. I think that's when you get hurt also because you can't see in the water. You're trying to shove your hand as a fishing line. Yeah, that's really the problem is that I'd be way more afraid of being in that water than I would be of the gnarly. I can't be in water where I can't touch the ground or see, like, my legs.

You know what I mean? During the spawn, when the hand anglers are targeting the fish, catfish are extremely aggressive. And then what? Once you're inside them, feeling around, they calm down? When does that ever happen? The fish are extremely powerful and more than capable of dragging or holding an inexperienced noodler under the water and drowning them. Wow. I wonder if they know, they're cognizant that this is happening.

Oh, it's Thursday, 7 p.m., John's coming over to noodle me? Yeah. Maybe. Also, we wouldn't just go to a swamp and noodle. We'd have a guy. Yeah. You'd be fine. You'd get a hire again.

I don't trust those guys. They're like, oh, don't worry about it. It's just a poisonous snake bite. I'll suck the venom out. Why are they from South Park? Also, where did the snake bite you? You know, have you ever seen a water snake? Yeah.

They're awful. Water moccasin. cute name poisonous cute name for a for a very dangerous venomous snake yeah they're they're very they're very common first of all i don't like snakes in general because i don't understand how they move i really don't understand how they move in water how what is happening like a rotor with their tail i agree with you i don't understand how they move the water makes a little more sense to me the land makes way less sense yeah because it's it's like a wobble right Like, I think in the water I could get going a little bit like this.

That's true, actually. I don't think I could do it. If I laid on the floor right now like this, I don't think I could. I guess there's eels, similar body type. Yeah, and they just do that. Yeah, but they're more flat. So, like, when they wave, it kind of creates a little – I don't know. Listen, maybe it's my Catholic upbringing, but I don't trust snakes.

I think snakes should be rid from the world. Right. St. Patrick is my favorite saint because he drove the snakes out of Ireland. Yeah, but now you're going to have a mouse problem. That's true. I'll take a mouse problem over a snake problem. Any day of the week. Any day of the week.

I can live with the mice. What's a snake problem exactly? Like, what's a snake problem? You're walking and you see a snake, like a mouse. There's a snake in your house. Have you ever seen snake infestations in people's houses? Oh, my God. Please don't do this to me.

Show up. But also, please. Where, like, the ceiling comes down. Look up a house full of a thousand snakes. Get them. I can't do this. It's not that bad. I can't do this.

but this is way oh my god imagine that this this that moving creeps me out you ever see a video

of snakes moving it's awful at least I have a snake how is this like a pile of snakes moving in like a in like a bin oh yeah

like a big pile it's awful yeah it's it looks like a man I'd rather like you're tripping a little I'd rather have this though than my house being infested

with rats well you said mice well snake you get rid of snakes you have a mouse and a rat problem you did say mice I still think mice

do you think that the rats are going to stay the same if the snakes go? They might get bigger, actually, right? I'd rather have mice. I might. Okay, but rats, you'll concede at rats? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

You know Jason had a pet snake? I did. I mean, look at him. He's sitting in his pants. I knew there was something there. All right. If we were all in a lineup. He said I did.

It's true. If we were all in a lineup and you had to point who had a pet snake, it'd be Jason. Oh, billion. For every hand ever, ever. and you know i've seen some snakes that are like kind of cute you know i've seen the guys that hold holding the boa constrictors at like you know fairs and festivals and things the guys that's too big but i i i don't know there's something about them look at that look at that thing it doesn't look the one i had look right the one i had was small ball python oh you had a python

these are oh see that's kind of cute this is exactly what that is that is cute that is cute Look, do the picture of the one in its hand. Yeah. Come on. No, no, no. That is cute. That is cute. Did you feed it live mice?

I think in the beginning, but then we switched to frozen. Oh, you're a sick fuck, aren't you? That's how it hunts. That's the circle of life for you. I was going to make a joke. Did you enjoy it? Yeah. Now he's a sick fuck.

You said, did I enjoy it? Yes. Oh, no. You just said you enjoyed watching it hunt live mice. It was kind of interesting to watch. No, Jason showed me one time. It was cool. We were like 10.

You want to see this thing eat this mouse? And I watch a few snake channels that go, oh, they're misunderstood creatures. And I get that. But I'm hardwired. I don't know. That's what they say about sharks, too. I'm like, I don't care if this shark can't understand English or not. I don't care if they're misunderstood or whatever.

It's like, keep it away from me. I don't want it bumping against me and biting me or all these nice surfers. You know, I really hate to say it, but there's something a little I told you so when, like, the guy who's like the shark conservationist, yeah, yeah, yeah, set up the Shark Foundation of America and then gets eaten by a shark. It's kind of like, I'm not happy about it, but it's definitely, I told you so.

Playing with fire a little bit. Or at least, you know, maybe a couple fingers missing from a bite or a chunk. But I think a lot of those people will say, I was in their home. Yeah, and there's something... Let me be. And I get that.

And there's something kind of weird wrong with that, I think, a little. Maybe. Like, it's always the people that say that are the ones that are missing a chunk of their leg or a hand it's like how about we just you just don't as simple as that i think i would try to put my head inside the shark's mouth first huh what why again i've explained this i've explained this many times i if i'm gonna get like my legs chopped off viciously and left in the ocean and

maybe get like pulled up by some like i don't know people i'd rather just die are you talking about the movies where they try to pull the guy up and half the body's gone? No. If that happens, if a shark

takes my leg off, I think I'd really, that would be, I'd rather just put the head in, guillotine, three rows of teeth, and die.

I like how we were about to wrap this up and Danny went full morbid. He can't not sneak it in. You'd rather die than lose a leg to a shark?

That's kind of what you're saying. In that fashion, yes, I think so. He doesn't want to be like, you know, go through, oh, he spent three days

at sea waiting, bleeding out, and then a Portuguese sailor who doesn't even speak English finds him in a little rowboat. It's a whole thing. I have to tourniquet my leg, and then I use the pick up. And then I have to use a lighter to

quarterize the wound. I don't want to do that. And I know that when I'm there, not that this is going to happen to me, but I know that when I'm in that situation, I'm going to you know, that fucking terrible thing

in your head is going to kick in and go, oh, I've got to survive. That terrible thing. But I think it'd be much nicer just to...

And with that... Marie Antoinette style. And with that, everybody, we bid you adieu, I think. As long as Danny stays out of the ocean and out of rowboats

and out of Shark Investor Territories, I think we'll be okay. And I've been in Shark Investor Territories. I've been in the ocean. Yeah, me too. Me too. It's not fun.

It's kind of scary. JT, tell them where to find you. Let's get out of here. Find me on Instagram at the J-Balls. You can find me at DannyIsWatching. You can find me

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