Piers Morgan Uncensored: Republican Debates, Yuval Harari, Cinder-Fella
00:00Tonight, Peersbork, and our censor, Donald Trump,ducks under the debate as the seven top rivals to replace himmake their pitch to be in leader of the free world.But can any of them actually top Trump?Scientists begin using AI to search for extraterrestrial life,as experts here on Earth warn,it could be the end of humanity as we know it.I'll ask one of the world's biggest brains
00:19if we should have been excited or terrified.Plus, inevitably, Cinderella is being recast as a man,Senderfella,probably be rescued by Princess.diverse and equitable new production of the classic,or just a load of old virtue signaling flannel.Or debate whether this is the dumbest thingto have happened this week in the world
00:39or maybe just in the last few hours.Live from the news building in London,this is Piers Morgan Unsensored.Good evening from London.Welcome to Piers Morgan Unsensored.We start with news of a secret operationinside the White House,which will strike fear into the hearts of America's allies
01:02and delight its enemies.And yes, I have got that the right.way around. It's called Operation Don't Let Joe Biden Fall. And it's billed as a critical project, too.Quite literally prop up the president. Biden's blunders and stumbles have become a crisis for his re-election campaign,with a whopping 75% of Americans now saying he's too old to lead the country. The Biden administration publicly insists the 80-year-old leader is fighting fit and they've got the receipts to prove it.Well, sort of. He remains, of course, a keen cyclist. He has excellent spatial awareness.2, 10, 12, 15, hope, stepping on a...It's black, anyway.
01:47And he has a great sense of direction, of course.Where is he?Well, one thing they can't deny is that Biden has a problemstaying on his feet, and that's the focus of a special programthey've now put together. This is why they're doing it.No matter what their cost, 2, 10, 12, 15,hope, stepping on a...It's black, anyway.
02:48Well, Axios reports a...top Democrats are terrified Biden will suffer a bad fall in the run-up to November's election.Their new two-pronged strategy is to both reduce a number of times Biden falls over by literallytraining him not to fall over and reduce the opportunities he has to fall over.He'll now board an exit Air Force One to the lower deck where he'll encounter fewer steps.Instead of boarding the plane like a president, he'll board it a bit like a suitcase.Initial evidence suggests that this may still be a challenge.The report says that Biden will now wear tennis shoes wherever possible
03:20instead of adult shoes, so he has better grip.He's also working daily with a physical therapistand the doctors recommended he improves his balanceby conducting pro-properoceptive maintenance manoeuvres.What those maneuvers entail is unclear,but what is crystal clear is that they're all designedto desperately reanimate a presidentwho just doesn't seem fit for the job, physically or mentally.
03:44Last night, seven of the eight leading Republican presidentof candidates faced off in the second Fox debate.Once again, the elephant not in the roomwas Donald Trump, who's light years aheadin the polls. My question is simply this.Surely America and the world can dobetter than a 77-year-old who's facing jailand an 80-year-old whose campaign strategy is don't fall over.
04:03Well, do you know about to discuss all thisis a Republican strategist and former chairof the anti-Trump Republicans, Liz Mayor,the conservative talk radio host,sensation, Ben Ferguson. I think he wrote that.And the CEO of Outkick Clay Travis.Well, welcome to all you.to debate all things Trump, who is, of course, the elephant in the room.
04:21So, Liz, let me start with you.Trump is basically now calling for all Republican debates to be cancelled.Without him, there's no point.The Republican Party should save their money,invest it all in going after Biden.Meanwhile, the president is having a whole plan to try and keep him on his feet.I've got to say, from this end of the pond, this all looks a bit ridiculous.You've got a guy facing 100 criminal charges,
04:44and you've got a bloke in the office who can't.barely see your walk straight.What is happening?It's pathetic.I would just like to say at this momentthat I'm British as well as Americanand I am leaning really hardinto being a conservative,
04:58which given how bad our polling is,should really tell you something.Yeah, no, it's pathetic.We have a nation of, what, 350 million peopleand this is the best we can do.I'm just lucky I live in a statethat nobody's going to be contestingso I can write in whoever I want
05:14and feel good about my vote.But generally, yeah, it's a complete disaster.It's a complete disaster.Ben Ferguson, it's a complete disaster.Yeah, I wish you'd stop showing those videos of Joe Bidenbecause you're about to get rid of the candidatethat I desperately want to run any Republican against.So if you'll stop doing that, and let's just say he's brilliant,
05:36let's say he's competent, let's say he is a vigorous young manjust like Ronald Reagan.That would make my life a lot easier.But the reality is Democrats right now put themselves in a corner.If you look at Joe Biden, honestly, right, the way that you just did, you've got to be sittingand going, what the hell are we doing?But they're stuck with them.And then you'll look at Kamala Harris.
05:59You say, okay, well, maybe Kamala will calm down people because they'll say, hey, if someonehas to take over, at least they'll like the VP.The problem is her approval rating is even worse than Joe Biden's right now, which isat Jimmy Carter levels.So it's a disaster for them.As for the Republicans, look,I think any Republican, Donald Trump,DeSantis, or if somebody else comes along,
06:21I don't think it's going to happenbased on what I saw at the debates last night.But if someone else came along,they all want to run against Joe Bidenbecause there's no way he can campaign vigorously.And I don't think COVID's going to save himfrom doing more debates in the future.I think this guy's a train wreck and they know it.
06:36But talking of train wrecks,Donald Trump, who is the runaway favorite nowto win Republican nomination,and once all the debate scrapped and so on,he is facing nearly 100 criminal charges.We are into completely unprecedented territory here,where you could end up with the Republican nomineebeing convicted of some of these charges before an election,
06:56potentially even sent to a prison cell,which I suspect would increase his poll numbers,like everything else has been done legally to him.But how can that be right for Americato have a president sitting in cell block age?People aren't worried about it.I mean, that's the reality.They're not worried.
07:12The Republican Party has made it clear.They're not worried.As an American vote.No, I'm not either because I think that these charges, and if you look at them, they're pretty ridiculous and egregious.You made up charges in Georgia within the statute of limitations that already run out, for goodness sakes.And when you fight these, I don't worry about it.And I think the American people showing that they still support them the Republican primary, he's got a 40-point lead,combine everyone else's poll numbers.
07:37They don't even add up to even anywhere close to where Donald Trump is pulling by.himself right now. So that's how littleRepublicans care about this. They know it'sa witch hunt. They know it's going afteryour political opponent in the way they do thebanana republic. And the poll numbersshow that the majority of Americans,their Republicans are smart enough to understand
07:55this is political crap, it's bananarepublic crap. It's what they do in Russia andChina and they're not worried about it.That's why he's still polling where he is.All right, Clay Travis, you like DeSantis.I'm interviewed Ron DeSantis. He's an impressivecharacter. He gets stuff done.This is his big mantra. He's on a very good job
08:11governor of Florida, no doubt about it.It seems to me, Desantis, I thought he was the beston the debate stage last night, actually,for what is worth. Now, let's take a little lookat Desantis' in action last night, actually.I think we have it. The former president,you know, he's missing in actiontonight. He's had a lot to say about that.
08:30He should be here explaining hiscomments to try to say thatpro-life protections are somehow a terriblething. You know, the problemClay is right. Trump should bethere, and I know Chris Christie called him Donald Duck,and that's fine. We all have a goodlaugh. But if you're Donald Trump, you think, why do I have to bother? I'm so far ahead of all of
08:50these people. Why do I have to bother turning up to any debate? I've got this in the bag. He's right,isn't he? Well, yeah, he's right right now so far. And that's why the biggest question coming outof this debate, thanks for having me on Pierce, by the way, is everybody else needs to drop out of the race,but potentially Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, they need to be able to fight it out, figure out who isthe unquestioned number-two, and then they need to have a head-to-head with Donald Trump. And remember, as crazy as the Democratprocess was in 2020, what did they do? Joe Biden got smoked in Iowa. He got crushed in New Hampshire.He left before the vote was even taken in New Hampshire. I think he finished fifth and sixth.
09:36And then what happened? James Clyburn, Congressman from South Carolina said, all that matters is beating DonaldTrump. Joe Biden is the choice. He's our guy, and it was over. The Democrats said, we're going topick the guy that we believe is the most electable. It's old, boring, plotting dementia Joe.They may have gotten lucky with COVID happening, honestly, because that allowed them to keepJoe Biden in the basement and not get out and everybody could see how physically frail and mentallydiminished he was. But they made the decision. He's the guy that's most likely to win. Think aboutthis, Pierce.Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley running against Joe Biden would be a unmitigated disaster for Democrats.
10:21And I think what's changed here is a lot of Republicans are so convinced that Joe Biden is going to losethat they aren't even focused on the electability angle as much as they can be.But remember, Trump has half of the electorate right now.The other half is for somebody else.The problem I think for your guy, DeSantis, is I think it's a,charisma issue.That most people think he's competent, you know, he's done a good job, blah, blah, blah.He just doesn't have anywhere near Trump's charisma.
10:51Funny enough, the one with all the charisma on the stage last night is Vivek Ramoswami.If you could inject that charisma into DeSantis with his experience as governor and success,you probably have a very, very, very compelling candidate.Let's take a look at Vivek.Transgenderism, especially in kids, is a mental health disorder.to acknowledge the truth of that for what it is....pain......on parental rights in school.
11:17Parents have the right to know.The very people who say that this increases the risk of suicideare also the one saying that parents don't have the right to knowabout that increased risk of suicide.And I'm sorry, it is not compassionate to affirm a kid's confusion.That is not compassion that is cruelty.So I will ban genital mutilation or chemical castration under the age of 18...So I also want to play now that the Christian
11:42gag about Donald Doug.It was funny.Let's take a look at this.And I want to look at that camera right now and tell you, Donald,I know you're watching.You can't help yourself.I know you're watching, okay?And you're not here tonight,
11:54not because of polls, and not because of your indictments,you're not here tonight because you're afraidof being on the stage and defending your record.You're ducking these things.And let me tell you what's going to happen.You keep doing that?No one up here's going to call you Donald Trump anymore.We're going to call you a Donald Duck.
12:11All right.he's quite funny, Christy, and he's a bit of an old bruiser.I like him. I've known him a long time.And that was a funny gag.If you combine his humour and kind of pugnacious stylewith Vivek's energy and dynamism and charisma,with the competence of DeSantis,you've got a very, very strong candidate.
12:29The problem is none of them have the other two components.And Trump, in his own way, love him, hate him,think he's the worst thing ever,all the greatest things to slice bread.He has it all.And that's why at the moment,He's steaming ahead.Yes.
12:45I would, can I just jump here and make a couple of points?That's 100% right.I think it's worth of noting.When you take a look at a lot of these post-debate polls, though,what you say about Vivek sounds like it's right,but when you look at how voters are actually responding,he's actually coming off very, very negativelyto quite a lot of Republican primary voters.
13:04So I'm not sure that you're quite right about his charisma.I agree with you that Ron DeSantis does need some sort of charisma injection,for sure. I'm not sure that him necessarily borrowing from Chris Christie is the best move, though. I actuallythought the Donald Duck line fell a little bit flat. I thought it was a little obvious. I didn't find itparticularly humorous. I also do think that DeSantis and Christie need to quit saying that Trumpneeds to show up at these debates, because one of the really interesting things, and we saw this in 2016also, when Trump skips debates, other people move up, and hisfloor, the absolute minimum that he's going to get actually goes down.
13:47That happened after the last debate.I bet it's going to happen after this debate.OK, all right.Let me bring in Ben on that.But that does matter.I agree with you.Ben, his issue, it seems to me, Trump could well run away with this Republican nomination.It looks like he might.
14:01But if it does, a lot of independents have a problem with Trump.And you've got to win with the independence to become president.And it may be that if Biden insists on running, that the only way the Democratswin that next election isif Trump is the opponent, becausethe anti-Trump vote comes out, as you know,and the independents don't like himand they won't like all the legal stuff,
14:21that actually Trump may steamrollat everyone to get the nomination forRepublican Party and then actuallylose again. Yeah, look,I think that there's two things here with Trump.It depends on if he can bea disciplined politicianin a general election, and you'll
14:37probably laugh at the idea of him being disciplined.But look, he's been pretty smart,And I think he's starting to understand that he's got to be smart about how he talks for the same reason that you just said.If he talks about the here and now and he doesn't take those loaded questions about the past and relitigating the past.And he talks about gas prices and interest rates and the economy and securing the border and building the wall, he will destroy Joe Biden.If he is undisciplined and he goes back and tries to litigate the past and say,won the last election, he gets bogged downin that, you're right. There's a chance
15:15that Joe Biden could win. But JoeBiden will not win because he has the bestset of plans for this country or ideas.He is a disaster. A stumbling,bumbling, falling down disaster. He would win because he'snot Donald Trump. I want to end by getting all of you.Oh, he will also win. Well, hang on.I've run out of time. Here's what I want to ask all of you.
15:34And I need straight answers. I wantto have the two names for thetwo people that will face off in thispresidential race next year.I want to have a name of a winner as well.So, Liz, you go first.Hmm.That's tough to say.
15:47It's really tough to say.Right now, the polling does suggest it's going to be Biden and Trump,but I have this sneaking suspicion that somehow it could end up being somebody like Brian Kempversus Gavin Newsom or J.B. Pritzker, because I think both of these guys are so old and decrafted and in Congress.All right.Well, you can't name.He might die.They might die.
16:04I need two names and a winner.Go on, Liz.Okay.Well, let's go with Newsom and Kemp.And I think in that contest, I think,Kemp Dusts Newsom, and I'm a happy camper.Okay. Ben?I'm just going to go back to reality.
16:18I'll bet you seats at Wimbledon because it's on my bucket list, peers.It's going to be Trump and Biden, and no one else matters.And who wins?I think Donald Trump.I think Joe Biden, and what you showed earlier, is going to be what you're going to see for the next year and a half.There's no doubt about that.And by the way, there will be far more added to the greatest hits, too.Clay, yeah.
16:39Two names and a winner.All right.I'll give you a fun one, I'll give you a fun one, Pierce.I think it's going to be Donald Trump.I think the Democrats are going to end up drafting Michelle Obama.Wow.And I think it's going to be Trump versus Michelle Obama.Wow.
16:53And Michelle Obama finds her way into the White House.She would be amazing.But I don't.To the Democratic debates, get ready.She'll come in at the convention.I actually, Clay and I agree on this.She would be great.I think she would be great.
17:10I actually think she was.I think Biden is going to get so much worse physically that it's going to be impossible and they'll have a broken convention and they'll have to find somebody new.Michelle Obama would be formidable, I think a really good candidate. I'd have to turn things she'll ever do it. But we've got to leave it there. We'll find out. Thank you to my pack. I appreciate it.And says the next is either going to save the world or destroy humanity depending on who you are. So I've asked one of the people with the biggest brains in this game in the world.Yuval Noah Harari, the man they called the AI Philosopher.We'll be here next with hopefully some answers.Welcome back to Pierce, Piers, Organicense.It's been called an alien threat.
18:00Elon Musk has warned of a Terminator future.Artificial intelligence has been describedwith the most apocalyptic terms,but at the same time, he's making incredible breakthroughsin finding genes that cause diseaseand transforming IVF, for example.So I'll be right to fear AI,or should we celebrate it?
18:16Can humans even control it when it's developing so rapidly?Philosopher and author Yuval Noah Hararigave me his uncensored take.You've got great to see you here in the Pierce Morgan Unsensored Studio.Last time I interviewed you, you were with us remotely,and we were cut off in our prime in what we thought may be an AI attack.But this time, I can assure you, we won't get cut off.Let's start with AI, because you're all over this.
18:45You, in Fortune magazine this week,described AI as an alien threat that could wipe us out.Instead of coming from outer space,is coming from California.Quite chilling words.Do you think that there's a real dangerthat if we mishandle artificial intelligence,it could literally wipe us out?
19:06Yes, and it's not only me.Many of the experts in the field,including the people who developed this technology,share some of the same fears.What everybody needs to know about AI,basically, is just two things.It's the first tool in human historythat can make decisions
19:23by itself, and it's the first tool in human historythat can create ideas by itself.You know, atom bombs, in the end,they empowered us because they couldn't make decisionshow to use them.Human needed to make the decision.But AI can decide who do bomband can create completely new ideas
19:42in everything from finance to religion.So it's very interesting,because Professor Stephen Hawking,in his last television interview,was with me, as it turned out,and I asked him,what was the biggest threat to mankind.And he said, when artificial intelligence
19:57learns to self-design.Now, is what you're describingself-design, or is thatanother stage for you? That's another stage.What's the difference between what you'redescribing and self-design?It's basically the same thing. Once it can createnew ideas, it can also create new
20:12ideas about itself, about its owndesign. But we are talking abouta power that escapesour control. You know, it's one of thedeepest fears of humanity forthousands of years, and now it's actually happening.So it could be like aversion of COVID-19 in the sense of
20:32it gets out, it gets out of our control, it turned outCOVID wasn't as deadly as the plague, for example,but this could be far more deadly, but it couldpermeate our life at the same speed. Yeah, the easiest scenario to imagineis like somebody giving the AI the task of, say,creating this super-powerful virus,and the AI just goes along and does it.And could make it more deadly than a human being could?
20:58Absolutely.Can combine Ebola with COVID and create something that we are hardly able to even imagine.I mean, it reminds me a little bit.I remember when the first chess computers came out and they were gigantic,like the deep blue, and Gary Kasparov, the Russian grandmaster,beat these computers to start with.But very quickly, they developed at such a rate that now it's importantpossible for any human being to beat a computer at chess?
21:26Absolutely. I mean, in a narrow field like chess, I mean, it's long gone.They are better than us.But are you suggesting that in a way what happened there could be replicated very quickly?Yes.And it could lead to our extinction if we're not careful.In broader fields, yes. It can happen in, again, fields like finance, fields like the job market is under more and more jobs are going to be changed or even replaced.So let me ask you on jobs.I got a question for you,
21:53which I was thinking about when I knew you were coming in.I'm thinking about this logically.If we end up with a load of factories around the world manned by robots, by AI,then all those people, millions of people who currently work in factories,they're going to be out of work and they have no income.So they can't buy any products that the robots are making in the factories.So that economic model collapses, doesn't it?Or am I being an idiot?
22:22No, this is one of the dangers.Now, it's not likely that there'll be a complete disappearance of jobs.As old jobs disappear, new jobs will emerge.If I'm like an accountant or a lawyer or somebody like thatwhere a lot of your work is based in the accountancy case on number crunching.If you're a lawyer, a lot of it is case studies, you know, existing case studiesand developing law and so on.I can quite easily see how AI will very...
22:51very quickly make a lot of those jobs redundant because they can do it all the push of a button.Any job which is basically data coming in being analyzed and data coming out,this is the easiest job to automate by AI, definitely.What about people like me, broadcasters?I mean, how quickly are we going to get to a place where you could have someone,a robot that looks and sounds like me that has studied through AI everything I've ever said on airand I've seen a TED talk deep fake of me.saying the complete opposite of what I think.
23:22It was terrifying, and it can't be longbefore someone could be doing this with AI.Yes, this is already there.This is why you have this strike in Hollywood,because they understand these kinds of things,these are no longer science fiction.Okay, let's talk about that.That's really interesting.
23:40The Hollywood strikes, because AI is at the center of it,and what their fear is, if I understand it correctly,is that you could be a movie star,and you sign a five-movie dealfor some franchise.thing. And the first two come out, and then you want to get out of your deal, and they say, fine, but we've got enough now where we can just use AI to make the last three without you.Yes. I mean, you... And is that a realistic thing? Absolutely. If you have enough data on someone, enough footage of how they look, how they move around, their voice, their, how they sound, you can create deep fakes of that person.AI can now compose songs like a band, like I think it was Oasis, right?
24:23It actually did a song, AI, that was based on Oasis's music catalogue,and it sounded like an Oasis song.Yeah, and again, human society is basically based on trust between human beings.We are facing the possibility of millions, even billions of fake humansoverrunning our society, leading to the collapse of trust between,people. How do we stop this happening?Ban ban fake humans, bancounterfeit humans. Let me try and have
24:55some positive to what you're saying.Yes. It's an awesome power, AI.In things like medicine, for example,we have so many cancers which have neverbeen solved by a human brain.Is it likely in the near to middling futurethat AI, with these superpowers,will be able to perhaps find a cure for all cancers
25:17for example.Yes, or at least for some of them.This is the big promise.If there wasn't a positive potential,there would have been no dangerbecause nobody would have wanted to develop this thing.Elon Musk and the others who signed a thousand nameswho signed this thing asking for a six-month pause.
25:35It sounds like they were right.Yes, I think, again, it's not necessarily opposedto the development of AI.It's opposed to the deployment into the public sphere.I can talk to you for hours.such a smart guy. Thank you for coming in. Although you have...Thank you for inviting me. You've painted a slightly apocalyptic picture, I have to say, Yuval.So I hope that the world listens.
25:56So I'll just say again, this is a warning, not a prophecy.No, I understand. We still have the agency to...It's in our hands at the moment. It's completely in our hands. But it is in our hands.And the problem of that is, I'm not sure I completely trust our ability to do what we should be doing.But we'll find out. Hopefully not the hard way.Youval, thank you very much. Great to see you.Well, that was just a taste of a really fascinating interview with a highly intelligent guy who really gets all the issues about AI.Yuval Noah Harari.
26:27That whole interview, unedited, there's a lot more of it.It will be on our uncensoreded YouTube channel in the next couple of days.We've now got over one and a half million subscribers.So thank you for those who subscribed.And if you're having it, what's keeping it?So much great content there for you to salivate over, including that full extended interview, which is honestly fascinating.and quite alarming, but I feel comfortable that people like himare looking into this properly because we need that kind of smarts to do it.
26:55Unsensitive next, the Scottish Ballet plans to introduce a twist on the classic Cinderella story.Yeah, you guessed it.She'll be played by a bloke who's rescued by a woman.Of course, of course.I'll debate Sinderfella going to the balls or whatever it is with the pack next.Welcome back to Piers Morgan, Unsensor.I'm joined by my super pack.First time these three have been together,
27:32talked to TV's international editor, Isabel Oakeshott,talk to the contributor, Paula Ron Adrian,and the comedian, his words, not mine, James Barth.Welcome to all of you.Wow, just the gracious, here.Just a little gag, James.To get you in the right spirit.I want to pay a little tribute before we get to the pack
27:49to one of Britain's greatest ever actors.And I use that phrase very deliberately.Sir Michael Gambon has died aged 82.So many things you could say about it.He just had an amazing career, amazing range.He was one of the true greats that our theatre has ever produced.And, of course, did many great movies and so on.I once interviewed him at the National Theatre,
28:11where he played many a great role.And I asked him, what he thought of the increasing malaise,a sort of talentless, Zed-less celebrity wannabies,trying to be stars.And he went, you know, all I've ever wanted to do was act.I remember sitting in this very dressing roomafter my first hit here,and people outside applauding when they saw me at the window,
28:30And that was so exciting.It's what I wanted. Recognition of my work.But what all these modern celebrities want is a quick buck with no talent or hard work required.It's awful.So I said to what would you call this type of person?And Sir Michael looked at me and smirked and said, I would call them a cretin.RIP, Sir Michael.You were brilliant on stage and you were brilliant off it to interview.
28:58A great actor.I want to talk about another theatrical story.Cinderfella, the Scottish Ballet, is doing what everyone does now.They're taking a very popular classic fairy tale,which obviously is about a woman, identifying as a woman.And they're going to switch it around,so apparently audiences won't know, apparently,it might be very exciting, whether it'll be Cinderella or Cinderella.
29:24To which my point is, I suppose,why can't they just leave this stuff alone?Why do the woke brigadeHave to come for everythingWhy do they have to ruin everythingWhat's the de-gender, change gender,Abuse gender?Why can't they just leave us alone these people?
29:41Why can't Cinderella be Cinderella?Do you know something really weird?This was actually first done in the 60sYesThere was a thing called CinderfellaYesA film, I think it was a filmYes, fantastic
29:52This is not...It was a joke?Well, it was satire, wasn't it?Yes.So this isn't even originalI'm going to actually surprise you and say,I actually think this sounds quite fun.Oh, God, no, you've gone.
30:02You've gone.We've lost you.I wouldn't take my kids to it.You're supposed to be on this packas a voice of common sense.It doesn't matter with you.Come on, it's quite entertaining.I mean, I quite like that element of jeopardy.
30:16Is it going to be Sinderfella or Sinderbella?But hang on a minute, Isabel.You wouldn't take your children to it.Come on, of course you would.I'm joking.Yeah, it's an absolute pile of old rubbish.It's just attention to it.James, all right, James, I know what you.
30:27going to say why why you bothered but actually it's a really important thing because it'sflipping the narrative and making the guy what's the narrative no it is because it's turning the guyinto the victim who needs saving and ultimately we all need saving particularly you right nowon this panel well why don't you love this it's an upside down realm where everyone isyou could actually play one of the ugly sisters finally your dream role wow oh you came toplay didn't you but on a serious note we talk about masculine toxicityand here we have the classic example.Why aren't you supporting this?
31:01Why don't you want men to be vulnerable?Why don't you want other men to see men in that kind of role?I'm just saying.I don't mind men being vulnerable.But you know what I love most in the world?I like a stiff up of British limb.I like people who don't spend their entire time loving.That is what? These men who are in this role have resilience to stand up against this kind of stuff.
31:27here with the victim culture that we now have to endure.Where everyone's a victim, weakness is celebrated.Strength is a problem.Everyone has to be a moat 24-7.You come into work.Did you not ask the question?I can't handle it.Why?
31:43He asked the question, why, why, why?That sounded like a victim to me.Do you know who's a strong name.I'm telling you's not a victim.Nick Jagger, right, who's 80 years old.Still doing his thing.Amazing, really.physical freak to be still prancing around doing that.
31:59Look at Joe Biden by comparison.They're within about eight months of age, right?Mitt Jagger announced he's not going to give his money to his eight kids.He's got apparently $500 million, right?I like that idea.If my kids are watching, I really like that idea.Because why would you give,Isabel, all that cash to young people
32:19before they've even tried to make their own way in many of the cases of his kids?Some are still very young.Why remove all hunger?People I know who've done that too.I know people who've given their kids loads of money.It's a very bad idea.It kills the hunger.Yeah, I couldn't.
32:33And without a hunger and desire to make that money for yourself,I think you end up with just a wasted life.I completely agree with you.I am going to assume that he's leaving them something.They probably already have assets, whether it's property or whatever.But absolutely, if you make life too easy for your children,if they don't actually have to feel a bit of a struggle,then there's nothing to get up for.
32:55And they drift.They drift around, they flop around.Yeah, I talked to Cristiano Ronaldo about this, right?And we had dinner one night after interview him the first time.And he was saying that, you know, his son's very good at football,his older son.And he said, he's very, very good, but he can't give him the hunger that he had.He was literally hungry.
33:14He used to sit around the back of a McDonald's and two lovely ladies.He said, we tried to find them, but we couldn't.They used to give him the cast off...That's problematic.Yeah, we used to give the cast off big matches.right? And he said that was how hungry I was. So everything was driven by this intense desireto get out of that cycle he was in of hunger. But when his son, he's now got a dad wortha billion dollars probably, right? You can't give, now it doesn't mean to say he won't
33:39develop his own desire and hunger. It's so much harder to instill it in someone, right?I would just say I'd like to pick up on what you said there because you were commendingMick Jagger for jumping around on stage at his age. Yes. But you wouldn't say that aboutMadonna. So do you think there's some hypocrisy? No, because it's the way she dresses and the wayAnd leading on from that, I'm not actually concerned whether Mick Jagger would leave his children money.I mean, Jerry Hall, Bianca Jagger, I mean, these are strong women.You know, they are there supporting the children.So this isn't really about Mick Jagger leaving his children.
34:12It's more about a principle.I do think I've seen people leave their kids too much money and they just remove any incentive to be.How much money are you living in your kids, peers?Very little.Right.actually. Well, I say very little. I'd like to think I can help them in some way, right?I would like to remove from everybody, right? Never mind my kids, but anyone's kids, right?I'd like to remove the stress of having no money. I think the stress of not being able to feed yourself
34:38or feed your children or your family or whatever. That is one of the worst stresses in the world outside of bad health, right?I think this is ultimately the problem with this article, because Mick Jagger can sit back and laugh about how he's not going to leave.his very comfortable children, more money.They don't need it.It'd be interesting to know what he is going to do with it.I don't know whether he's revealed that.He said he might give it to charity, you might do some good in the world.Yeah, well, that's great.
35:05It's going to get an LGBTQ plus charity.Not enough.Hang on, what did you call it?Don't even start.Hang on, what do you call it?I.What happened to the two?Oh, goodness me.
35:15Where are the twos?Yeah, they're there.No, no, you didn't say two.Leave me alone.No, no, no.Come on this show to be left alone.You have an ungender, the twos.Two spirits.
35:24The two spirits.Of course.They're very clear.Where are they then?Why didn't we say two plus?Two LGBTQI.A.I'm really disappointed in you, James.Thank you.
35:32I really think, I mean, obviously by tomorrow there'll be another one,but at the moment, it is, it is Q2 plus.It is.Now I know that, and I'm surprised you don't know that.I think we should cancel him.Well, honestly.Well, honestly, I thought you've caught the woke mind virus.As a two spirit penguin myself, I've identified as a two,
35:48I'm actually personally taking that very bad.See, you're saying you're saying you're halfblack and half white?No, I'm a two-spirit penguin.Well, I think we all are a bit.Half-black, half-white.I had my DNA done.Right.
35:56No, no, zero English in me.Really? Really?Mainly Irish.A bit of Scottish.They chartered me back to Robert the Bruce.A little bit of Welsh.A little bit of Middle Eastern.Quite a lot of misogyny.
36:10But absolutely, sorry?And a lot of misogyny.Ooh.But zero English.Very interesting.Yeah.And I was born in England.Scottish would feel about that.
36:20So I'm thinking.I'm thinking that we're on a work due to Scotland to watch the ballet, right?No, we're not.We're going to talk instead about...It's calling somebody woke as bad as a racial slur.Actress Kathy Tyson said in an interview of The Telegraph,for me it's as bad a term as an offensive racial slur.The term woke and raceguard are deeply offensive to me, she quote.
36:42So the latter is thrown in your face if you make criticism of anything.So here's the thing, James.I don't think it is because I read a whole book about this.I identify as woke by the original definition,which came from the American music business in the 60s,and it was about raising awareness of social and racial injustice.I absolutely, by that criteria, I'm a woke person, right?What's happened is woke has become hijacked by a lot of social media mobs in particular,
37:10and they use it as a form of fascism now to basically try and make everybody conform to their way of thinking.That's my problem with it.See, I found that interesting because I actually think it's that,but also the opposite of that,in that people use it as a slur to say, to undermine your...I think it's become a slur by definition,because the people in that woke worldwho identify themselves as woke...
37:31Well, I'm not quite sure why you're blaming woke people for that.Because a lot of them, I think, are actually worthy of condemnationfor propagating the nonsensical views they haveand then expecting all of us to agree with it.But you have actually used the word woke about me as a slur.You've called me a wokeie or whatever.I've called you a wokeie.Right, exactly.
37:48So in a way, you're...That's because you propagate woke thought processes,which are ridiculous.So you think it's ridiculous to, like, stand against racism?No, but if I ask you, for example,should biological males be allowed to compete in women's sport?What would you say?This is a crazy question that I'm not here to talk about.
38:05What would you say?Because it's not something on the expert on it.I'm not an expert on it.No, no.You also probably don't have a right answer.Because you know what you would have to sayto fit the criteria of being awokey,you would have to say you agree with it.
38:15And in that moment, everyone watching a home goes,you're a complete limousy then.You're awokey by the common definition today.But she's a complete classic of the genre, isn't she?Because she's going on about how deeply offended she is.And that is the whole thing about wokeery.It's continually about people being offended.Offended by everything.
38:32And causing offence.And everyone.Everyone.And I mean...So should Suala Braverman have been deeply offended by Gary Linneker's tweet?I don't think she should have been.But she told us that she was.She told us how outraged she was and how offended she was and insulted she was.
38:46I don't think you've been used.And he was suspended for that.I don't think even you, as a black woman, can feel comfortable that calling someone woke is as bad as a racial slur. Come on.The point is, and it's a point that I agree with with James and pick up on, it's used now as a pejorative, isn't it?It's used to insult.Well, it deservedly.When it's deserved.When it's deserved.
39:06I don't think it is when it's deserved.I think it's just thrown out there for anybody who happens to say, hang on a minute, is this fit?No, I would say 99% of people that I call woke in a...in a derogatory manner, deserve it, because they're being ridiculous.So it is a slur, you agree?I'm just going to say, but that's the point.I don't think it even comes close to being a slur as like a racial slur.But you're not.
39:29I'm saying that your views, the woke world's view of life, I find ridiculous, right?Utterly ridiculous.Therefore, I'm using it as a term of mockery.Abusing someone about their skin color is a completely different.And in my view, far more serious things.So why are you using the word woke?Why don't you stop using the wokeas a pejority?
39:49You know why?And say that what you are saying is ridiculousor what you're saying is nonsense.Because it really annoys the wokeies.I don't think we're annoyed, are we, Paula?Oh, yes.I'm pretty calm.I'm not annoyed at all.
40:02I feel really proud of being called wokebecause it means I'm trying to make the world a better place.And not only that, but you know what happens is.Woke people make the world a worst place.They make it a joyless, humorless,fascist state,where everybody has to look to look at.the same, sound the same, say the right things,
40:18can't crack any jokes.That's actually disgusting.Blah, blah, blah.It is disgusting.I agree.We finally agree.How could you possibly thinkthat we all want each other to look the same
40:27when we're all about inclusivity for everyone?You know, I've just realized,looking at you sitting in that chair,you're the new Richard Tice.Thank you.Although I couldn't think of anybodyless like Richard Tice than the entire world.It's a great slur.
40:38That definitely felt like a slur, to be honest with you.I'm putting my off-com complaint in tonight.I'm going to take it.There's a woke Richard Tice.In a compliment.In a compliment.In about a minute,when you go off there, you're going to realize why
40:47Isabelle may not see that as a slur.Are you aware that...No. Oh, right. Oh, tell me. What have I missed?Oh, they're an item. Oh, really?Yeah. So you've just abused Isabel's...Oh, goodness me.All right.Which is fine, but, you know, you might feel a little uncomfortable now.
41:00Right, no.Which is great, because I made it in...See, I don't get offended.I made it in...Neither would...I made it in with a moment of excruciating,mortifying embarrassment for James Bar.And that's always a good way to finish a pack.
41:11Great to see you. Come back soon, James.Thank you.Unsensit. This is going to be.right. Onsense, could the space aliens presented in Mexico's parliament recently be real? I know exactlythe person to ask. The great William Shatman coming next. Welcome back. A Mexican UFO enthusiastcaptured the world's imagination earlier tonight by presenting what he claimed were the remains of two aliensto the Mexican parliament. Some cried hoax. Many simply wanted to believe. Who better to adjudicatethan a man who's met more fake space aliens than we've had hot dinners? The great William Shatt
41:56I star The Unexplained on History Channel and Netflix.Join us, well, it's great to see you again.How are you?Oh, Pears.It's great to see you.And what a subject matter, huh?Well, this perfect timing with your new series of The Unexplained.Here we have what looked like alien mummies, effectively.
42:13What does you make of it?Well, what do you mean?See, that question itself, what do you mean it looks like aliens?The only reason it looks like an alien is some guy at...at one of those science fiction movies,drew what he thought was an alien,you know, conceived of what he thought an alien would look like.And now we have an alien that looks like
42:38what this guy thought of in his imagination.Nobody's ever seen it,but it now looks mysteriously like the thing we saw on that movie.It's wonderful.Do you believe that there are aliensand we're just not being told about them?Do you think governments know?Now, listen, Pierce, there are in uncountable galaxies
43:06that contain uncountable stars which have planets circling it,it is mathematically impossible for there not to be life on other planets.Just impossible.I agree.Life, for example, here on Earthlooks for the ability to live everywhere.Trees are fighting each other for the sunlightand the animals and the flowers and the grass
43:40and then you have humans.I let me live.Life is as an imperative.It can't be that we're alone.And it can't also bethat it cannot just be carbon-based.So the chance of it.of life being in other places
43:56is, to me, isnot even a chance. No.Now, we did a bit of research here.One of my team did a bit of picture researchto your associations as CaptainKurt with aliens. So you worked withsome. I mean, it's a bit of a stretch listbut Spock. You fought with
44:12some. I've got a picture of you fightinga big alien there. And youmade love to a lot of aliens in Star Trek.Like Marta, the green-skinned,like the green-skinned OrionSloth. And you made love to a lot of aliens,slave girl.Yeah, except the paint
44:28kept coming off on my costume.Do you thinkwhen you go off this mortalcorner, I don't think it's ever going to happen to you,I think you're actually eternal. But if you ever do,do you think you will encounterother worlds,do you dream that maybe one day
44:48you'll meet with these things?Now you'retouching on that.phrase the final frontier yeah on my show I think I'm able to say the nameso because of the strike the final frontier was space but actually thefinal frontier is death we don't know what it's an unexplained mystery wedon't know what's out there so I would like to think that as you draw asapparently the drug guy said on his last breath
45:24Of course.That was his last phrase.Yeah.As he took his last breath, he said, of course, as though he realized he saw the logic behind everything.I'd like to think that happens.And we know, without being able to communicate it, what everything means.Because everything, shy of a few unassailable facts like, I don't know,the fact that you're still alive and doing your program.
45:59Everything is changeable.Everything changes.So what is out there?Will it be the same?Will you know it?It's unexplained, and that's the name of the show.I've got 20 seconds left.If you knew you had one day left on Miss Earth,
46:14how would you spend it?20 seconds.I would love to do an interview with Pierce Morgan the last 20 seconds.Can you imagine?Done.Agreed. I would love that too.I'll let you know.William Shatner.
46:30The unexplained.I love having a show.The unexplained in every way is brilliant.Great to see you.Thank you very much.Whatever you're up to.Keep it uncensored like William Shatner.One of my heroes.
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