Pints With Aquinas - BONUS: FR. Mark Goring on Proclaiming Jesus, Discerning Priesthood, and the Viganò Affair

Episode Date: December 12, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you. Thank you. G'day everybody, welcome to Pints with Aquinas. My name is Matt Fradd, you know that. Unless you're new here, in which case you should subscribe immediately and click that bell button. Lovely to have you here, I'm here with Father Mark Goring. But before Father Mark and I chat, I want to give a friend of mine a plug. She is one of the coolest people I've ever met in my life. Her name is Elisa McLaughlin. She has this candle site
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Starting point is 00:02:43 She is a homeschooling mom of a big gaggle of children. Gaggle? I don't know. And I just want to give her a shout out. She just sent us a bunch of candles just for Christmas. I smelt them and I love a good candle. I love a good candle. And these are just beautiful smelling. They're not artificial. They're very natural and beautiful. One of their children has some medical problems right now, and I just love her, and I love her family, as I say, homeschooling family. So if you could help them out, go to shop.trulykindred.com. I've put the link in the description below. Click it. Please buy a candle or three. How about I make this promise to you? If you buy the candle and you don't like it, maybe you can send it back to her and I'll pay for it. And I don't know, I'll send you something else. I don't think that'll happen because they're just so great.
Starting point is 00:03:36 So check it out, shop.trulykindred.com. As I say, she doesn't know I'm doing this. She's not paying me to do this. I just help a sister out. Shop.trulykindred.com. Father Mark Goring, lovely to have you on the show. Thank you. Yeah, good to be here. Now, you have a YouTube channel in which you talk about things. I do, yes. People are familiar with it. It's fantastic. Tell people about it, maybe. Yeah, just a little YouTube channel. I try to make a video almost every day. I try to keep them to around three to five minutes and just try to speak God's Word, build the kingdom of God.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Glory to God, yeah. People type in Father Mark Goring, you can check it out. You do some great stuff. We're going to take some questions from our patrons today. In a couple of weeks, I'll be interviewing you about your conversion
Starting point is 00:04:22 from atheism to Catholicism, becoming a priest, which is pretty cool. But today we thought we'd just take some questions from our patrons. Anything you want to, I don't know, talk about? Well, yeah, no, looking forward to hearing from your patrons. I really enjoy your work, Matt. I think you're my favorite YouTuber. I really love your perspective on things. I like the questions you ask. And so, yeah, it's an honor to be here with you today. Thanks. Thank you very much. Let's see here. Michael, these are from my patrons here. So Michael Alexon. Sure, that's how you pronounce it. I'm positive. He says,
Starting point is 00:04:58 yes, this will be awesome. How has he and father, if you don't mind, I'm sure you can speak eloquently for a long period of time, but we've got a bunch here, so maybe we'll try to keep our answers, your answers, somewhat short, if that's okay. Sure, sure. How has he experienced the hand of Mary in his life, particularly in his youth, guiding him to Christ and to the priesthood? Yeah, well, when I was going through my conversion, I was influenced by the saints, and they all seemed to really love our Blessed Mother, like to be totally in love with her. And so I just kind of took my cue from that, and I started praying, you know, the prayers I knew, which included the Hail Mary. And I experienced our Blessed Mother's presence by praying the Hail Mary as a teenager in a real powerful way. It's like she was
Starting point is 00:05:46 holding me in her arms. And it was just a time when I was coming out of some real darkness in my life. And when I kind of felt her motherly love, I knew everything was going to be okay. But also, a beautiful thing is when I first kind of encountered our Blessed Mother, it was so clear to me that she is all about bringing people to Jesus. Like, she's all about Jesus. So people who have this idea, well, oh, Mary takes away from Jesus, you don't know the Blessed Virgin Mary. You don't have a clue about Our Lady if you think she takes away from Jesus because she is all about bringing people to her Son, Jesus. So devotion to her is very important. She magnifies the Lord, right?
Starting point is 00:06:38 That's right. Let's see. Jared Ingram has a question about you being an atheist as a teenager before having a conversion. He wants more details on that. He's going to have to wait because, as I just said, you and I are going to release a video about that in a couple of weeks, so stay tuned. Nicole says, at what age did you realize you had a calling, and what was the center focus that made you enter the priesthood? Yeah, so I'd say it was around the age of 16-ish I was waking up to a call to the priesthood because I read a book on St. John Vianney, The Curia of Ours, and it just so inspired me to want to be a priest like him, you know. And so that was a real turning point in my life where I began to feel the call strongly.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Okay, beautiful. Austin, you might know this person, it sounds like. Sarabia, Father Mark, miss having you here in Houston. Still so thankful for helping open the door for me to Catholicism. Since officiating our wedding, I entered the church at Easter 2019. Alina, I think that's how you say the name, our son Luke and I are trying to schedule a trip to see you. Oh, wonderful. Yeah. Nice to hear from you, Austin. Come on up anytime. Tyler R. has a very interesting question. I can't wait to hear your response to this. He says, I see two wings of Catholicism that are wonderfully orthodox, but each very different in expression.
Starting point is 00:08:07 The traditional Catholics and the charismatic Catholics. Lately, it seems like never the two shall meet. But I have a hope that the future of the church is actually in a blending of the two in what might be termed tradesmatic. Yeah, that's funny. You've got the best of both worlds, a love of the tradition in its liturgy and spiritual patrimony, and also an openness of the Holy Spirit
Starting point is 00:08:33 doing great things in the contemporary world to rebuild the kingdom. Amen. As a charismatic yourself, Father Mark, do you see any pathways forward for a so-called tradesmatic movement? What a great question. Yeah, no, that's beautiful. Yeah, that's my dream too. I really believe in the power of the Holy Spirit, the charisms of the Holy Spirit. We don't call on the Holy Spirit enough. We really
Starting point is 00:08:58 underestimate what the Holy Spirit wants to do in and through us. So we definitely need to be just radically open to the Holy Spirit. But the tradition of the church, it's kind of like the rock-solid foundation on which everything is built. I mean, obviously, the Lord Jesus is the rock. He's the foundation. But the liturgy is divine. It's from heaven. It's according to the pattern of heaven. The Holy Eucharist is the blessed sacrament. And I'm growing in my appreciation of the tradition as well. I really think that the solution to all the world's problems is to bring back the communion rails in our Catholic churches. I know it sounds funny, but studying the Eucharistic
Starting point is 00:09:52 miracles, to me, you know, I think that the communion rails is the most proper way to receive the bread that comes down from heaven, our Lord Jesus. And I think the way we've made the liturgy more casual has done awful destruction to the Catholic faith. And it's not a question of blaming people or writing off Vatican II or anything, but I definitely think that the Lord is calling the church to being radically open to the Holy Spirit and have the fire of the Holy Spirit and evangelization, but also to be deeply rooted in the tradition. And I hope to see young Catholics embrace both. Yeah, it is a shame. I think sometimes these names carry baggage, don't they? Like traditional Catholics, that carries baggage for some people, charismatic people or charismatic renewal carries baggage for people.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But if you just think about it, it's like being faithful to the tradition and then being empowered by the Holy Spirit to proclaim the word in power. That sounds like a good thing. Like, I don't know why we need to necessarily oppose the two in principle. Like, I don't know why we need to necessarily oppose the two in principle. Yeah, and there's also, I think there's an anointing on both. The Lord is anointing the traditionalists. When people go to traditional masses, they're experiencing God, and they're staying. And it's causing them to want to be holy and to love Jesus. That's the work of the Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit. And also, you know, throughout the world, people are discovering the lordship of Jesus through just fiery evangelists who preach the gospel with power, who pray for healing, and people are healed, who call people to praise the Lord wholeheartedly and go out and evangelize.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And that's the kind of more of the charismatic power. And so, like I said, I would love to see, I mean, there's places where the two are together. There are people who are very charismatic and very traditional. I hope to see more of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, I mean, I think there is dangers, right, with everything. There's pitfalls on either side of everything that's good. And I think one of the pitfalls, right, of the charismatic kind of renewal or those, you know, is to maybe, is to sometimes to kind of jettison tradition or to maybe sympathize with Protestants in a way that would be inappropriate with their teaching, I mean. But I think, you know, when it comes to like traditionalists, I would consider myself traditional catholic and i love the tradition i encounter god i love the latin mass i prefer it you know personally as a personal preference to the novus ordo so um but i but i think that the pitfall there can sometimes be like in a time of chaos we seek stability and so you kind of like
Starting point is 00:12:40 it becomes all about like maintaining tradition and there's's not a sense of like, we exist in a time such as this, you know, the Lord has placed us here to go out in power, you know? And so that doesn't mean, I'm not saying like to be a traditional Catholic means you're not going to be empowered. Nor am I saying to be a charismatic type Catholic means that you jettison tradition. I just think. Yeah. Yeah. Amen. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right, man. Okay, let's see.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Brian Witterman has an interesting question. I'm not, I hope this isn't too personal. He says, is it difficult to comply through obedience to your bishop to not discuss the Pope and Archbishop Vigano as you had been discussing prior to being told to stop? Yeah, I mean, I've been blessed. I mean, my superiors, the bishops who've been over me, they've all been just very, very good to me, even as they've, you know, challenged me, corrected me, things like that. They're just real good men who are, you know, trying to, you know, whatever, to do their best. It's never good to take yourself so seriously that you feel that somehow, you know, no one can tell you what to do
Starting point is 00:13:55 or whatever. You look at St. Padre Pio, you look at St. Faustina, I mean, these are tremendous saints who were obedient to their superiors. And, you know, when I see someone really being seemingly prophetic and bold and courageous, and then when I see the leadership of the church kind of try to tone the person down a bit, I always think if that person is obedient, the Lord will honor that, and his ministry or her ministry will increase, because the Lord blesses and honors proper obedience. I think it's a good witness to Catholics, you know, for a priest to be obedient in the proper way. I mean, obviously, the bishop tells you to do something sinful, you don't do it, or things like that, but, you know, we're so, we have such a
Starting point is 00:14:43 mindset that, oh, I know everything, and I do whatever I want. Nobody likes that, you know, we're so, we have such a mindset that, oh, I know everything and I do whatever I want. Nobody likes that, you know. And so the fact is, is like all the bishops I've known are excellent, excellent bishops. They're, you know, most of them are a lot more holy than I am, you know, and they have a tremendously difficult job. And so, you know, and God's in charge like the thing is is I mean if if if the Lord wants something to happen he'll make it happen and I just believe he works most powerfully through obedience and the thing we have to remember is what's the devil's model I will not serve and I
Starting point is 00:15:20 when a guy starts you know saying I don't care what the leadership tells me to do, I'm doing what I think is right, it's like, I look at Padre Pio, I look at the other great saints, they were obedient, and the Lord worked powerfully through them. So to me, it's obedience, proper obedience is a non-negotiable. Glory to God. T asks, aside from fasting, what other penances are most efficacious? I am having scrupulosity issues with praying too much. It is interfering with family time.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I would like a devotional solution that I can do during the day if I only could pray 30 rosaries while working like Padre Pio. Yeah, I mean, a person like that, you probably want to get a spiritual director who knows you well and who can give you custom like personalized advice and direction i mean obviously you know we we don't want to fall under the weight of of scrupul. You know, the Lord wants us to be free. He wants us to rejoice in Him and have the freedom of the children of God. And scrupulosity, you know, it's a sign of a lack of faith in God's unconditional love. But it's also a condition, I mean. So, you know, I don't want you to feel guilty that you have scrupulosity either.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So I would say just get someone who you really trust and admire, like a priest or a religious sister or a mature Christian, and they'll help you to sort out, you know, just how to— I mean, the thing is, you're pleasing to God just as you are. You know, like this whole notion that you need to pray 30 rosaries a day. I mean, maybe one day you'll get to that, but you're not St. Padre Pio. You're your own person. The Lord has a specific plan for your life.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And so, you know, find someone to help direct you, and you'll be fine. Yeah, that's beautiful advice, Father. If I could just add to it and maybe ruin it. if I could just add to it and maybe ruin it. As a married man myself, I know in the past I've been very attracted to this, perhaps the devotions, devotional practices and spirituality that might be appropriate for a friar or a monk or even a priest, but may not be appropriate for me as a married man. If I was to be brutally honest, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:17:40 actually the idea of going to a quiet church and kneeling and praying a rosary, I'm like, actually, the idea of going to a quiet church and kneeling and praying a rosary, I'd actually like it more than being with my kids who are so demanding of me, cleaning the dishes, doing what my wife would have me do. I would rather escape, in a sense, tell myself that's the holy option. And if she questions me on that, well, that's her hang up. Like, she's not yet where I am in the spiritual life. Like, I've felt temptations to that, especially early on in marriage. And that's why I think it's so important just to kind of get back to what you said a moment ago
Starting point is 00:18:11 about this importance of duty. We are mutually under each other in a sense. I know the man is the head of the household, but we should submit to each other for love of Christ. And so, you know, maybe there's something in that too. Amen. Evan Collins says, other in love for love of christ and so you know maybe there's something in that too amen evan collins says wants to know what are some habits or seemingly little practices that one
Starting point is 00:18:34 can implement to grow in charity and humility towards one's neighbors yeah great question i mean certainly um i i think it's i mean there's all kinds of little things. It's good to take a moment with a person. Some people, I don't know, I've heard they have like a 15 second rule. Like, if you meet someone, just slow down, just, you know, stop thinking what you're thinking and just be present to this person. Notice this person for whatever, 15 seconds. I love it when people smile. You know, I love it. Like I go sometimes for walks. I love it when a person just smiles and says hello. You know, I think it's so beautiful when we love one another in those simple ways. And also to have little sayings like to say to people, you know, is there anything I can do to help you? We should be thanking people constantly.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Thank you should probably be the thing that we say most throughout the day and honoring people. So that's a beautiful desire, by the way, from that person. Isn't that lovely? It is. Lovely, lovely. I mean, in a way, it's like sometimes we're so focused on the sins that we do in private that cause the most shame,
Starting point is 00:19:47 which is obviously a good thing to desire to overcome serious sin. But we don't often ask, I find, questions about other people. So if anything, it's like, how do I get over this sin that I'm committing that makes me feel bad? It's still inward focused in a way. Yeah, yeah. So it's such a humble question. Yeah, beautiful. Mark Saluta says, any advice for younger, by which he means 20 to 40, I guess It's such a humble question. Yeah, beautiful. Mark Saluta says, any advice for younger, by which he means 20 to 40, I guess it's all relative,
Starting point is 00:20:10 Catholics looking for other passionate younger Catholics to grab a beer slash coffee with and talk philosophy Aquinas? I mean, this is a very personal question. I don't know where he lives, you know, but okay, Florida. He lives in Florida. Many parishes have groups like Knights of Columbus, etc.,
Starting point is 00:20:27 consist mostly of elderly cradle Catholics, many of whom haven't ever seen a need to dig deep into church history, church fathers' philosophy, or apologetics. I have a desire, and I did this a while back. I had these little pints with Aquinas groups, where, you know, people would, like, sign up, and they would host this, like, kind of gathering. People would get together, drink beer, and talk philosophy.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I think I need to re-implement that. Yeah, no, I mean, it's great that he has this desire. It's so true that if you have some good Catholic friends who, I mean, the dream, the ideal is to have good Catholic friends who are kind of ahead of you spiritually, who are kind of a little more holy, a little more intense, a little more wholehearted. And then you can spend time with them. Like, good Catholic friends inspire you, motivate you, kind of egg you on to keep fighting the good fight.
Starting point is 00:21:19 And so, yeah, like, what a gift, you know, a good Catholic friend is, you know, so precious. I mean, I would say, you know, based on Mark's question, it might be that sometimes when you have a desire for something, it's actually a calling. Like maybe you need to get the word out that, hey, I'm looking to have beer or coffee with people who want to talk about Aquinas. Oftentimes, a desire for something is a calling that you need to do it yourself. Let me just throw this out to those who are watching and who will watch. Do you like the idea of me setting something like that up? I mean, this actually takes a lot more energy and effort and hours than you might think. But maybe we could start these Pints with Aquinas chapters around the country where a small group of people get together,
Starting point is 00:22:06 have a beer and discuss the faith. And if you like that idea and it's something you actually would be interested in, as opposed to that's an idea that would be cool for other people. Like if it's something you would be interested in, please let me know in the comments section below, because it is something I'd be willing to spend some money kind of, you know. Yeah, there you are are so there you go okay all right let's see man lots of questions from lots of lots of beautiful people here um just how can this comes from ethan lansing how can young catholics like teens become better followers of christ
Starting point is 00:22:41 and not get distracted by things of this world, such as video games? Yeah, I mean, that's a good question. It must be tough for teenagers. I would go back to the previous question. If you have a couple of friends who totally love Jesus and they're reading the Bible and they're trying to share the faith and, you know, they're part of maybe a ministry or a worship team or anything, well, then you're good.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Then you're good. But if you don't have friends who are into it, I mean, then it's tough. And the whole thing of, you know, fighting the tendency to either play video games all the time or watch TV all the time or be on YouTube all the time or, you know, work all the time or whatever, that's the battle of a lifetime. That's the work of a lifetime to become more disciplined, to become more virtuous, to overcome your laziness and do the right thing. I mean, the thing is there's nothing wrong playing video games in moderation,
Starting point is 00:23:50 wrong playing video games in moderation but uh i mean to learn to use your time well is i'm still working on that and it's it's a beautiful thing to work on it's good to to that you have that desire so uh kevin albright wants to know who your favorite saint or church father is. And you're not allowed to say the Blessed Mother, because that's a given. Yeah. Thank you, Kevin. Yeah, I have a lot of favorite saints. Sometimes I make new friends in heaven. My latest favorite saint is little Blessed Alexandrina of Portugal, da Costa. She's the saint who lived for 13 years on the Holy Eucharist. She didn't eat or even drink anything. No water, no food for 13 years. All she did is she received the Holy Communion every day. And this was scientifically and medically verified. It's a funny story, actually.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So I just read about her, totally fall in love with her. So she's my latest friend in heaven. In terms of fathers of the church, I mean, obviously I love St. Augustine, St. John Chrysostom. I guess maybe those two. Okay. Oh, yeah. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Ah, glory to God.
Starting point is 00:25:03 All right. I'm trying to figure out what to do now. This is great. We just kind of did this on the fly and we've got like almost 400 people watching right now. So like, oh man, um, I, I, okay. I want to run this by you, see what you think. Then maybe we'll take some questions from those on YouTube. So I was telling you earlier, I sent out 112 letters to 112 monasteries begging for their prayers. And today, I walk in my office, and I've got like a ton of letters
Starting point is 00:25:28 from these different religious orders, and I haven't opened them. So, unless it would bore you to tears, I was thinking maybe we could open a couple and see what they say. Yeah, yeah, go for it. That'd be great. I got this idea from Jason Everett when he started
Starting point is 00:25:43 doing his chastity ministry. He's like, we need the big guns of the church, you know? Amen. Dear Matt Fratton family, be assured of our prayers. Many of our sisters and families are familiar with your ministry. I personally am a huge fan of your podcast. Oh, wow. And I pray that it reaches many people with much success.
Starting point is 00:26:01 May the Lord continue to shower your family with many graces, with Mary and all the saints. Beautiful. Beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, I just found a bunch of religious orders online. I'm like, I'm going to write to all of them and tell them all to pray for me. I was thinking it might be like a nice change. I'm sure they get a lot of letters who are like, hey, give me money. You can interrupt me at any point I think St. Faustina said woe to the world when we lose our religious
Starting point is 00:26:30 communities or whatever when we lose our contemplatives it's great that you're asking them for prayer if there's any viewers who feel called to the contemplative life, the religious life it's a beautiful vocation Franciscan Sisters of the Eucharist sent me this.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Dear Mr. Fratt, as we enter Advent, we pray for many graces and blessings for you and your apostolates. May Christ be born anew through your efforts to proclaim His truth and love in union with the Church. Thank you for your letter about Pints with Aquinas. We have made use of some of your other resources in our own apostolates and outreaches, and are happy to
Starting point is 00:27:02 collaborate with you in prayer. May God continue to guide and bless your efforts in Christ as He comes. Glory to Jesus Christ. Maybe as I'm opening this next letter, just so I don't bore everybody to tears, I don't know how boring this is. Maybe it's not boring. Maybe I shouldn't downplay it.
Starting point is 00:27:16 But what's it been like for you to all of a sudden have this platform? It's a crazy thing to have so many people listen to you. Such a responsibility. Yeah, I mean, I guess one of the things that makes it a little easier for me is my YouTube ministry. It's kind of simple. I make a little video, three to five minutes, almost every day. I mean, it's cool. It's cool that I can make a video and within an hour all kinds of people around the world are watching it you know and commenting on it. We have over 400 people
Starting point is 00:27:53 watching right now. Yeah. Croatia, I saw the Philippines, it's crazy Yeah, no it's a real phenomena Who's this? Oh this is cool. So someone's I guess sent me one of their saints Saint Maria Soldad Torres Acosta I'm not sure if you've let's see if I can
Starting point is 00:28:11 I don't know if you've ever heard of her no well she seems lovely judging by her habit sure she is man beautiful beautiful may God reward you abundantly thank you for your charity
Starting point is 00:28:24 thank you for your charity. Thank you for sharing and spreading abroad our beautiful faith in Jesus Christ, our blessed mother and all the saints. Please be assured of our daily prayers for all of you. This is what it's about. I mean, John 15, right? Apart from me, you can do nothing. And I'm like, well, I could probably do some things.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like I could lead people to sin. I could lead people into heresy. But as far as like supernatural conversions and graces, amen. Like zero things. So it's good to have the prayers of the saints and our fellow convents and stuff. Yeah. I'm a bit of a, I kind of consider myself a pseudo kind of monk. You know, I love the monastic tradition. I love reading books about, you know, saints who are monks or religious sisters. I think they kind of set the bar for us.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And I think in the Orthodox Church, it's more kind of official, like every Christian is meant to somehow be a little monk in the world or a contemplative in the world. Is that right, Matt? be a little monk in the world or a contemplative in the world. Is that right, Matt? Well, I think in Orthodoxy, you know, monastic life is seen as the pinnacle of the Christian life. And then we laity—by the way, I'm not Orthodox, for those who are watching, nor is my wife. We go to an Eastern Catholic Church, however. You know, we as the laity participate as much as we can, you know, and sort of try to approximate the life of the monk in an appropriate way. Yeah. Dominican sisters of St. Cecilia. There you go. You got to write some Dominicans. Man, beautiful, beautiful. Well, look, we're going to take some questions here from
Starting point is 00:29:57 YouTube. Do us a favor. If you're watching right now, please hit that thumbs up button and share this on YouTube and or share this video, which on youtube on your social media facebook twitter it's always a fun thing to make google evangelize accidentally and you can make them do that by sharing this video on social media we have a super chat here from amal antony gosh god bless you thank you kindly i don't know what symbol that is it says 250 250, but I don't know what that is. So it's not euros, it's not dollars. So whatever it is, super kind of you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Let's see here. Chris R. says, does Father Mark know how to say the traditional Latin mass? No, no, it was never kind of presented to me in my formation and um i guess for me if i was ever in a situation like if i was sent to a parish and they said oh there's a group who you know are used to having the traditional latin mass would you be willing to learn it so that you could you know provide for for the need i'd love i'd love to do it um but i guess uh at this point you know that there's not the need i guess the other thing too is i don't know much latin i did a year of latin and i guess when i when i pray the mass i i try to pray every word like what i'm saying to, you know, allow it to pass through my heart.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And so to go to Latin and to not know exactly what I'm saying, I think I would struggle with that. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Hope, thanks for the super chat, says, I've been considering recording my conversion story for friends and family. I can't share with everyone face to face, but I'm humbled at the thought. Any advice on how to prepare? God bless, Father. So I thought I'd love to put my testimony somehow out there so that people can hear the wonderful work the Lord has done in my life so I can proclaim the Lord. And also people ask, what happened to you? So you can share that.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And so if the Lord's putting it on your heart to do that, you know, prepare it well, pray, and then share it. And the Lord calls us to proclaim what He's done in our life, to give testimony. So if you have a desire to do that, I would really encourage you to do that, and the Lord will honor you for that. Reamless says, for Father Mark Goring, what do you think of the evangelical movement in the Protestant Church? I used to be a part of it, he says. And is there anything Catholics can learn from it? Yeah, I mean, obviously, the Lord calls us to the fullness of truth, and that's, you know, found in the Catholic Church. But we're all on a
Starting point is 00:33:05 journey. We're all a work in progress. And so, you know, some people, they're, you know, find themselves as evangelicals, and they totally love the Lord Jesus. They've encountered him. They're reading his scriptures. They're doing his work. They have zeal. I mean, obviously, the thing we can learn from them is their zeal to evangelize. And I think one thing we can learn from them is their zeal to evangelize. And I think one thing we can learn from them, too, is they really have a sense, many of them, of the reality that the Lord has anointed them to preach good news, that it's not just the work of the priests or the specialists,
Starting point is 00:33:39 but every Christian is called and appointed and anointed to proclaim Jesus. Obviously, their love for Scripture is beautiful. So, yeah, no, I love meeting, you know, evangelicals and just seeing their zeal for the Lord. And I like to tell them about Eucharistic miracles to, you know, invite them to consider the reality of the Eucharist that we read about in John 6. to, you know, invite them to consider the reality of the Eucharist that we read about in John 6. That's usually my go-to kind of, you know, topic when I meet someone who's not Catholic. You know, I feel I have to tell people about the truth of Jesus's heart that's given to us in the Holy Eucharist. And usually the Eucharistic miracles is my little way to say, hey, did you know what's going on right now in the world? Like there's Eucharistic miracles and it's based on the
Starting point is 00:34:29 Bible, John 6, you know? And so, yeah. That's beautiful. Yeah. I'm actually going to be interviewing your confrere, Father Terry Donahue. Is that his last name? Yeah, yeah. Very soon, excuse me, about Eucharistic miracles. So everybody watching right now, click subscribe, click that bell button so you don't miss out on that one, because I'm really, really excited about that. He's a brilliant guy, Father Terry. Yeah, he is. Let's see. Hutton5 says, what should our response to non-Catholics be regarding the Pope's controversial statements? controversial statements? Okay, our response to non-Catholics regarding the Pope's controversial statements. Yeah, oh gosh. I mean, the thing is, we point them to the Catechism of the Catholic Church for the clear teaching, like what the Church clearly teaches. I guess, Matt, you and I,
Starting point is 00:35:24 I've heard you say similar thing you know it's one of those things i just tell people i i don't know know exactly what the pope meant when he said that and just acknowledge that it is a little confusing some of the things he says and you know like but just reiterate well you know what we don't don we don't either believe what the Washington Post or the New York Times or whatever says that Pope Francis said, you know, and so if you want to know what the Church teaches, you can go to the Catechism of the Catholic
Starting point is 00:35:54 Church. If you're confused by what the Pope might say sometimes, I just say I don't understand exactly what he was saying, and sorry. But I'll also say, suppose the Pope does say something, and suppose it hasn't been taken out of context, and suppose
Starting point is 00:36:16 he's wrong about something, and then a Protestant asks me about it, you can just be like, oh yeah, so the Pope was wrong. Yeah, he's wrong about that. Because in a way, that's another way to teach about papal infallibility. Because there is this misconception that I have to accept every single thing the Pope says, and the Pope can never be wrong. And when we had John Paul II and Benedict, we kept saying that that's not what we meant. So now we get to show that. It's like, yeah, he's wrong.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And he hasn't exercised infallibility. And here's what infallibility means. And I think it's wrong. And he hasn't exercised infallibility, and here's what infallibility means. And I think it's okay. Like, it's okay to have a Pope that you're not crazy about. So, Chris Codoy says, Father Mark, how about receiving communion by hands? In our place, everybody receives communion by hands because of this pandemic. Do you have any thoughts on that or no? Yeah, I mean, I grew up just, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:11 typical Novus Ordo Catholic, and so that's almost all I knew was receiving our Lord Jesus on the hand. I guess later I kind of felt it was more proper for me to receive on the tongue, and then eventually I was made a priest, so that wasn't an issue for me personally. I guess as I've learned about the Eucharistic miracles, I've become deeply convinced that a casual approach to the Holy Eucharist is awful. You know, it really is our Lord Jesus' body, blood, soul, and divinity in the Holy Eucharist, and there's only one way to present ourselves to the Lord, and that's with great love and deep devotion and piety and reverence. And I really think that the Catholic Church needs to bring back the communion
Starting point is 00:38:05 rails. I think that bringing back the communion rails is, I may say this a little jokingly, but I think it's the answer to all the Church's problems, all the world's problems, because it's bowing the knee and acknowledging and humbling ourselves in adoration to Jesus. And how could that not be the answer to all the world's problems? I say this a little jokingly as well. I'm trying to formulate this analogy. But I see many young Catholics looking at the abuses that have arisen since the Second Vatican Council. I want to get my language right.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Like somebody who goes into a beautiful old house and sees carpet put up over beautiful wood floors. They're horrified. Like, why? Why would you do this? It doesn't make any sense. And I just see people just longing for that beauty of tradition. I guess the flip side is I have heard of some people who they said, well, since my diocese doesn't allow communion on the tongue
Starting point is 00:39:06 during the pandemic i stopped i stopped receiving the holy eucharist and and to me i i just i just think that doesn't you know make sense because it's it's our lord jesus he he wants to come to you in the eucharist and my understanding is and i learned this from bishop schneider um My understanding is, and I learned this from Bishop Schneider, Thomas Aquinas, if I'm not mistaken, said that in extreme situations, you can, a layperson can, you know, handle our blessed Lord in the hand. And also in the early church, there was some area where it was that the men would receive on the palm. would receive on the palm. And then so to just say, never, ever, ever should a lay person touch our Lord Jesus with the hand. I just don't see that in the tradition. It's not what the church officially teaches. I do believe that, you know, we need to accept the, you know, whatever the, what our church decides on liturgy. So what do you think about that, Matt?
Starting point is 00:40:10 The people who won't receive the Holy Eucharist because they won't receive on the hand? It's a difficult question to answer because I think a lot of it arises from intention. So something can be... Like, first of all, I would say that I would never condemn what the Church has permitted. And so even if it is the case that receiving the Eucharist in the hand did arise from an abuse, which I know little about this, but that's what people who know things tell me, still the church has permitted it. And so to
Starting point is 00:40:40 condemn those who choose to receive Eucharist on the hand would be to condemn something the church permits. But I could also understand somebody saying, look, I'm going to refrain from receiving our Lord because I think it's an inappropriate way to handle the Eucharist. And so I'll make a spiritual communion until I can receive our Lord. I see where you're coming from as well, but I think a lot of it has to do with the heart. Like if somebody is just kind of being defiant and is perhaps condemning those in his heart as he is at Holy Mass and condemns those who receive Eucharist on the hand
Starting point is 00:41:18 and these sorts of things, that would be something I can't tell. But what would you think about the argument that St. Thomas Aquinas, apparently, now again, I remember reading this, but it seems to me, he said, in some exceptional circumstances, it's okay to receive on the hand or to handle the Lord. Like, it just seems for a layperson to say, no, it's a sin to touch the Lord Jesus with your hand when, don't we also have little children saints who died rather than turn over the Holy Eucharist that they were kind of entrusted to bring to a sick person?
Starting point is 00:42:00 Like, who was it? Was it Saint Imelda who had a devotion to an early church saint? Like, it seems like in the tradition, there is, in some circumstances, you know, allowance for a layperson to touch our blessed Lord with the hand. And I would say that because we're in a pandemic and our bishops are asking us to do this, we might not agree with it, but I would say this is a time when you can allow yourself to receive our blessed Lord reverently in your hand. Well, I would say that in general, just to go back to what I said a moment ago, I wouldn't want to condemn anything that the Church has allowed.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I think being a faithful Catholic means not only submitting to what the church teaches authoritatively, but not demanding uniformity where the church does allow diversity of opinion or custom. So I don't think it's appropriate to condemn those who receive Eucharist in the hand. But I can also understand somebody choosing not to do that. I mean, as Catholics, we're meant to receive Eucharist once a year at least. I can see somebody abstaining. Here's what Aquinas said. I just pulled this up.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to. So if this isn't it, forgive me. But Aquinas says, The dispensing of Christ's body belongs to the priest for three reasons. First, because as we said above, he consecrates as in the person of Christ, but as Christ consecrated his body at the supper, so also he gave it to others to be partaken of by them. Accordingly, as the consecration of Christ's body belongs to the priest, so likewise does the dispensing belong to him. Secondly, because the
Starting point is 00:43:45 priest is the appointed intermediary between God and the people, hence as it belongs to him to offer the people's gifts to God, so it belongs to him to deliver consecrated gifts to the people. Thirdly, because out of reverence towards this sacrament, nothing touches it, but what is consecrated, hence the corporal and the chalice are consecrated, and likewise the priest's hands for touching the sacrament. Hence, it is not lawful for anyone else to touch it except, there you are, from necessity. For instance, if it were to fall upon the ground, or else in some other case of urgency. So I think that is what you're referring to. That's it. That's the one I'm referring to.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And again, someone might say, well, I don't think a pandemic is a case of urgency and that you know that's that's their argument i guess my argument is like you need the the power of the bread of heaven in your life like i mean it's true we only are required to receive the holy eucharist once a year, but if you can receive our Lord in the Holy Eucharist, and you're not because... I can see that coming from a place of pride as well. Again, let's go back to the intention of the heart, and that's the thing I can't see. I can see someone legitimately choosing to refrain, but I can also see someone being sort of arrogant and prideful in that sense, and like almost like putting on a show.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Like, I'm not gonna receive the Eucharist, so if you're gonna give it, the only way to receive our blessed Lord is on the hand, I'm gonna show you. And it's like, wow, like that doesn't seem like a pure place. I guess that's what concerns me, yeah. Yeah. Okay, we have a couple of super chats here, big thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Bass, drums, guitar, master. I don't think that's his real name. It might be. God bless him if it is. He says, being in a charismatic order, what do you think about people like Father Rippinger saying that the charismatic movement is mostly psychological or Protestant? Example, praying in tongues, resting in the spirit.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Yeah, I mean, I've never heard Father Rippender say that. I've listened to some of his stuff. What I've listened to is awesome. Yeah, I really like him. Yeah, I mean, obviously, among charismatics, there might be some who do overemphasize the emotional experience. I do know people, it seems like they just like to fall down when they're prayed over. I mean, I don't want to judge people, but I really question, it seems like you just like to fall down, you know? So there's definitely some of that. I think the witness of the power of the Holy Spirit through the charismatic renewal is so strong that you can't just dismiss what happened by saying it's just all emotionalism.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I mean, I could give you an hour of stories of just genuine, powerful encounters people have had with the Holy Spirit through the charismatic renewal. Could I give one? Sure. When I grew up, one of my best friend's mother was responsible for introducing me, in a way, to pornography. She would buy us hard liquor. So I'm 12 years old. I would stay at this person's house regularly. I would drink vodka, bourbon. I would be throwing up. This is a lot of my teenage years. She would buy us pornographic videos, made us watch it. She was an intelligent woman in the sense of her IQ. I mean, she was an idiot for doing these things. But I also loved her very much because even though she did these wicked things, you know, she would also listen to my problems and things like this. It was a really unfortunate time. And I, but I do think
Starting point is 00:47:28 that the Lord, the Lord who turns all things to good has enabled me to write on this topic and to address this topic in a way because of my unfortunate experience of it. And I, and I, I'm sad for that. You know, the reason I bring it up, however, is that this woman had a massive conversion. One day she was at Holy mass, just would go out of habit sometimes, sometimes not. And she was told by the priest that there was this prayer group, and they were a charismatic prayer group, you see, who would be happy to pray for anybody who would like to come up. Well, she was having a tough time at work.
Starting point is 00:48:00 She was stressed out. Again, thought, was sort of a subscriber to religious indifferentism, that all religions are basically equal. We shouldn't criticize or say one is superior to the other. So she walked up and I think somewhat out of charity, so as not to embarrass them, she said, oh, sure. Okay. You can pray for me. They laid hands on her. Her entire life changed. They called upon the Holy Spirit. She encountered the person of Jesus Christ and was radically transformed. This woman now spends an hour every morning reading scripture in addition to her other prayers. She joined a Bible study immediately, and she was recounting to me that in this Bible study,
Starting point is 00:48:36 she said to her friends, my life has been transformed. You know, she had statues of Buddha and these things around her house. She was telling these Bible study friends that she would smash these statues, throw holy water up the halls. And someone said to her, well, don't you think that's rather narrow-minded? And she said, I hope so. It's a narrow path. This woman's life has been transformed. And so I just share that to say that, yeah, the Holy Spirit is powerful. And he's alive and he's at work in the
Starting point is 00:49:07 world. And I would say, you know, and I love Father Rippinger, so this isn't a criticism on what he may have said because I, like Father Mark, haven't heard it. But to say, well, some of these bloody people in the charismatic renewal are very interested in their emotions, it's very psychological, it's very manipulative. Okay, but like saying that to dismiss a group of people, which again, I'm not accusing Father Rippinger of saying, would sort of be like dismissing Latin mass goers and saying, well, these people just kind of, you know, they have this idealized church that never really existed that they're trying to recreate. And they're just super into externals, you know, and they're very rigid people. Okay. Even if that were true of a few people, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:49 who went to the Latin mass, it would clearly be irresponsible to dismiss those who attend the Latin mass based on your anecdotal evidence of those who have that particular disposition, you know? Yeah, exactly. disposition, you know. Yeah, exactly. Solus Griffiths says, I came back to the church last year and had my first confession 30 years. Glory to Jesus Christ. I feel like I can't move on, though, because I keep remembering sins that I forgot to confess from my past. Oh, glory to Jesus Christ. He says, how can I be forgiven of everything? Yeah, beautiful question. I mean, what I do every time I go to confession, if ever I can, if I ever kind of remember something from the past that I don't think I've ever confessed before, I just mention it when I go to confession. And I think that's all the Lord expects of us. I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:42 like if there's something from the past that's weighing on you, just confess it the next time you go to confession, you know. And the Lord is reasonable. Like, He doesn't, like, if you prepare honestly for confession and confess the sins that you know you've committed, that you can remember, the Lord forgives you all the sins of your whole life including the ones you've forgotten he forgives everything he makes you totally new um and like i said if there is something i was like oh wait a minute i just remembered like for me sometimes it's more attitudes i had or just things maybe i didn't do or and it's just like ah like i i now realize at that time in my life i was so was so whatever, selfish and didn't care for this person. And it's more kind of an insight.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And if it's kind of grieving me and weighing on me, the next time I go to confession, I'll just mention it so that I know that I've spoken it in confession and gotten it off my chest. So don't. Can I? Go ahead. Well, I just want to quote Aquinas here, because Aquinas would tell you you've already been forgiven and need not confess these sins again. So I'll read from him directly so you know I'm not making this up. And I know you know this, Father Mark.
Starting point is 00:51:58 If I go to you for confession, and I willingly withhold a serious sin that I've committed, this is a sacrilege and my confession is invalid. And none of the sins that I confessed have been forgiven. But if I go to Father Mark for confession and I confess to the best of my memory and ability all of the serious sins I've committed, if I walk out of that confession after absolution
Starting point is 00:52:22 and remember a sin that I forgot genuinely to confess, that's been forgiven. I want to share here something that Aquinas says in the Summa. He says this. which he had confessed before, especially if he cannot go to the same priest to whom his previous confession was made, in order that the total quantity of his sins may be made known to one priest. But this does not seem necessary, because sin takes its quantity both from itself and from the conjunction of another, and as to the sins which he confessed, he has already manifested their quantity which they have of themselves, While as to the sin which he had forgotten, in order that the priest may know the quantity which it has under both, this is getting
Starting point is 00:53:11 deep, sorry, both of the above heads, it is enough that the penitent declare it explicitly and confess the others in general, saying that he had confessed many sins in his previous confession, but have forgotten this particular one. Okay, that clearly is not the exact thing that I was looking for. So let me see if I can find it again, because I think this is really, really important to people, because they can get so hung up that if I don't remember every serious sin I've ever committed, then somehow I'm still in mortal sin and won't be saved. This is not the teaching of the church.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Yeah, all you need to do is confess as best you can the sins you remember and and and kind of confessing something you've forgotten it's just as much kind of for your own personal like i guess if something is weighing on you just mention it in confession and you'll be free of that kind of sense of whatever, guilt and shame. And so, yeah. The Lord's mercy, like, it's so important. If you genuinely want to receive God's mercy and you're sorry for your sins, like, don't be afraid. Like, you're good. The Lord is so pleased with you, you know. And then just, you know, do things as best you can. do things as best you can is and you know a guilt-driven spirituality is never good and you don't advance as quickly in the spiritual life when it's guilt that's driving you you know there
Starting point is 00:54:32 should be a sense that you know god loves me so much that i don't need to be afraid i i mean i need to be you know repentant of my sins but uh yeah yep beautiful beautiful aw says no no question thank you thank you both for deepening my faith and providing such wonderful content looking forward to a pint with you both in heaven amen uh double base says as an atheist i'm faced with many claims of true Double Base says, Oh, that is so beautiful that he's asking this question. I mean, I think the thing we long for is for people to honestly seek the truth. And, you know, what distinguishes Catholicism from any other religion is the Lord Jesus. There's just, there is no person who comes even remotely close to comparing with him. There's no prophet, there's no guru, there's no whatever, you know, philosopher.
Starting point is 00:55:39 You know, the Lord Jesus, he didn't just say, I know the way, or I see the way. He said, I am the way. He didn't just say, I know the way or I see the way. He said, I am the way. He didn't just say these things. He walked on water. He multiplied food. He raised the dead. He said to people, your sins are forgiven, which only God can do. And he said, I have power to lay down my life and take it up again.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And he did. And like no one in the history of humanity has done this and the historical foundation like the historical record for the death the life the death the resurrection of jesus it's rock solid like it's not just some random person in the middle ages who based it on legends. No, you got Matthew, you got Mark, Luke, John, Paul, James, people putting in writing what happened. And they believed it so much, it didn't make them money, it didn't get them fame or prestige, they died proclaiming that this is true. You can kill me, but I still proclaim to you that the Lord Jesus Christ, he walked on water. He drove out demons. He multiplied food. He spoke words with power
Starting point is 00:56:50 and love that no other person has spoken before. And he rose from the dead. We saw him. We believe. And he poured out his spirit in our lives. And we know he's alive and he's risen. And you can take my money. You can take my fame. You can kill me. I'm not going to deny what I know. Jesus Christ is Lord. He's Savior. And there's, again, who else? What other religion has a source, a founder, you know, whatever, that compares with the Lord Jesus? So someone says, well, I'm going to follow, you know, Joe Guru, who was a snowboarder and
Starting point is 00:57:26 lived on a mountain and smoked pot and had these revelations of reality. I like his religion better. Like, you honestly are going to put Joe Guru snowboarder, who started his own religion, ahead of the Lord Jesus, who, again, didn't just come in word, but he came in power. And he's still alive today, transforming people's lives. Like people today, you know, people in prison reach rock bottom, they call on the name of the Lord Jesus, and there's a total transformation in their heart and lives. Like what other religion, what other faith, whatever belief system, philosophy compares with the reality of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And again, this is something I discovered with my own study and research. And this is, I would encourage the person who made this comment, you have to consider the reality of the Lord Jesus. Take him seriously, because he transformed the world like the year 2021 that that's based on when he was you know born or lived or whatever um like there's you can't dismiss jesus as just some other great person like that's just that's just silly that's being intellectually stupid to say well jesus was just some other great person. Based on what? Like, who, what intellectually honest person honestly believes that Jesus was just some other great person? He is in a category of his own, and his message was flawlessly good, pure love. You show me another
Starting point is 00:59:01 religious leader or founder or prophet whose teaching is flawlessly good, respects the freedom and the dignity of every person. You will not find anyone who comes even remotely close to the Lord Jesus Christ. Why? Because he's God made man. He's Emmanuel, God with us, the one and only Savior of the world. Sorry, I got a little preachy there, Matt. Glory to Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Never apologize. Keep it going. Javier Cruz, thanks for your super chat. He says, I once had a list that I brought into confession. At some point down the list, the priest cut me off and absolved me. I didn't say the sins out loud. Is this a valid confession? Yeah, well, the priest shouldn't have done that.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I mean, he shouldn't have done that. That's unfortunate. I mean, my advice would be, yeah, it would have been ideal for you to either say, hey, I'm not done, or just go again to confession and confess the rest of the things on your list. That's, yeah, that's an awkward question. Because the thing is, part of the sacrament is receiving peace, and you receive peace by speaking these things, getting them off of your chest. So the priest is supposed to let you do that. Now, again, if you're in an exaggerated way, taking tons of time unnecessarily, the priest will say, you know what, you don't need to give me a reason for every little lie you've said in the last 20 years, because that's going to take
Starting point is 01:00:43 10 hours. And there's, you know, 30 other people who want to go to confession before Mass. So, you know, but what would you say to that, Matt? Oh, I wouldn't care to venture an answer, but here we go. I'm going to do it anyway. Yeah, so I would think that the conditions would have been met. So my understanding is that if one confesses one's sins and during absolution, the penitent is reminded of a sin he has not yet confessed, that due to the sort of psychological pressure and difficulty that would be required to cut the priest off mid-absolution, it's assumed that the sins are forgiven. But I would just say to this person that if that's troubling you,
Starting point is 01:01:31 you could always, you know, I think it is a good idea. Like if you've remembered a sin, then just to bring that up the next time you go to confession. And so if there's a list and you've got several that you still haven't confessed, you could just do that. Yeah, I mean, as a priest, I can tell people, like, listen, if there's something on your chest, get it off of your chest when you go to confession. If you're afraid to go to confession, tell the priest, hey, I'm afraid to do this.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Like, whatever is on your chest, get it off your chest. If there's, you know, if there's something you think you might have confessed, but you didn't confess it in the right way, like, whatever it is, just get it off your chest. If there's, you know, if there's something you think you might have confessed, but you didn't confess it in the right way, like, whatever it is, just get it off your chest, ideally in a concise way, like, again, a 15-minute explanation for something, when there's a whole bunch of other people who go to confession, like, just try to, in a concise way, speak what you need to speak to get it off your chest, and again, a good, a good priest will, you know, try to, try to, you know, receive you as, as best he can. Michael Baumert says, love to you both. Thanks for your charity, humility, and balance regarding some topics that are lightning rods in the church today. And yes, bring back the altar rails. So not a question, but he wanted
Starting point is 01:02:42 to share that. Let's see here. This is lovely. Cindy says, I pray for you, Father, every day in my rosary, how proud he must be of you. Thank you for your service and for speaking truth. Thank you. Someone had a question here that I think is very important. They were wondering the difference between, say, scrupulosity, and I can't find it now, but I suppose it had to do with having a tender conscience. We should have a tender conscience. We should not wish to offend our blessed Lord. Maybe you could speak to that a little.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah, a friend of mine who really loves the Lord, and he and I would sometimes joke, he'd say, we both admit, you know what, we're kind of a little bit pharisaical, and we're a little scrupulous and almost like not apologizing for it. Like there's a bit of a Pharisee in me that wants to do things right and it bugs me when things aren't done right. And there's a scrupulous side of me that doesn't want to do anything wrong. It's almost healthy maybe to err a little on the side of doing things, you know, just right so that you don't err on the side of being too casual or too loose. Because I think I'd rather see someone be a little more careful about how they live their faith than to be careless. faith than to be careless. But I mean, again, the bottom line is, if you've encountered the wonderful love of your Father in heaven and have accepted the reality that you're His beloved son, His beloved daughter, like that, you know, guilt, fear, whatever, that should be driven out. And
Starting point is 01:04:20 you should have friends and people who keep reminding you of that. It's like, you know, I know I'm a child of God. And again, if you fall into scrupulosity or phariseeism that's okay but at least recognize like one of the things i'll say to the lord is i'll say okay lord i know you're not mad at me i know you forgive me i know you know you love me but oh i'm so mad at myself you know like you know i like i'm i'm frustrated with myself i'm angry with myself i'm mad at myself i'm having trouble forgiving myself but i know that you you do forgive me you do love me so to be able like if you if you're treating god like an angry volatile you know mean father it's like oh i feel so sorry for. You have to discover the wonderful love of God.
Starting point is 01:05:06 I mean, the Lord in Scripture, he says, you are precious in my eyes and I love you. He says, your sins I will remember no more. He says, you're the apple of my eye. I've called you by name and I love you and so on and so on. Read the prodigal son like that is so vital. Yeah, that's beautiful. Well, I've got one more question for you, Father. But before I do, I just want to remind everybody about this truly kindred.
Starting point is 01:05:33 My friend has a bunch of children who she homeschools. She's a beautiful woman, beautiful family, and she creates these candles. She's not paying me to tell you about them. She doesn't even know that I'm telling you about them. But I know one of their children has some medical difficulties right now, and I think it's a bit taxing. And so I just encourage you to go buy a candle or five. I'm not making this up when I say that her candles are the greatest smelling candles I have ever smelled ever. I'm not saying that just because I want you to go buy it. It's legit true. She sent us some
Starting point is 01:06:02 for Christmas, and they are outstanding. She's very talented. Trulykindred. it. It's legit true. She sent us some for Christmas and they are outstanding. She's very talented. Trulykindred.com. There's a link in the description below. If you would just do me a favor, as I say, not making money from this, but just to kind of support her family during this Christmas season, click the link below, buy a bunch of candles for yourself. I promise you, you'll love them. And you'd be supporting a beautiful family who are homeschooling and you know just uh that'd be great trulykindred.com thank you uh because she's my friend and thank you for from from her um a question here from a teenager and i think this is a great question to maybe wrap up on he wants to know what your advice would be to a teenager discerning the priesthood? Yeah, I mean, first of all, it's wonderful, you know, that you're discerning the priesthood. Yeah, I mean, definitely tell the Lord that you'll do whatever He wants, you know.
Starting point is 01:06:55 To follow any calling requires courage. It's always a risk, you know, whatever we do. always a risk, you know, whatever we do. I mean, for me, a huge help was reading about saints who were consecrated to God. They inspired me. And so, you know, I encourage you to... The thing is, the world has so few real models and witnesses and examples that just show us how it's done. But the lives of the saints has so many wonderful witnesses. So I would say make friends with some of the saints who followed the consecrated life. They'll pray for you and help you. And obviously, you know, you have, for the priesthood in particular, you know, I think there has to be a real devotion to prayer in particular to adoring the Lord in the Holy Eucharist. And if you tell the Lord that you're willing to do what he wants and you ask him to lead you and guide you, he'll do that.
Starting point is 01:08:00 And yeah, go for it. Man, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. And yeah, go for it. Man, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Well, I just wanna remind people that once we hit 100,000 subscribers, which Father Goring has passed handsomely, so everybody knows, so go check out his YouTube channel and subscribe there.
Starting point is 01:08:13 But once I pass 100,000 subscribers, I've got a big announcement to make. And I would love to be able to make it after I hit 100,000 subscribers. If I don't get it soon, I'll probably break that promise and just tell you anyway, but it would really help this channel out. If you would subscribe and click that bell button, we are almost there, 96, 97,000, a beautiful thing. And I want to say thank you to everybody who supports us on Patreon or supports us by watching the channel and stuff
Starting point is 01:08:37 like that. Father, any final words before we wrap up? Yeah, I just want to affirm you and encourage you, Matt, in the wonderful work you're doing. I'm just really inspired by what you do. And I guess I've said, you're my favorite YouTuber. I pray that you remain courageous and humble and faithful. And this is a moment.
Starting point is 01:09:03 This is a moment for you, Matt, to really proclaim to the whole world the wonderful reality of the Lord Jesus. And so don't let up. Stay the course. I'm praying for you. And please, please pray for me. That means a lot.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Thank you kindly. Yeah, I just ask everyone in the live chat right now who watches Father Mark Goring and watches my channel, one way you can support us right now is by maybe offering an Ave for us. Just offer one Hail Mary, ask the Blessed Mother to protect Father Mark and myself, and to guide all those who view us into the one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, and into a deep and profound relationship with our blessed Lord. That would be a good thing. All right, God bless, Father Mark. Thank you. Thank you.

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