Pints With Aquinas - Life Updates + New Series Announcement! | Ft. Cameron Fradd
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Goody everybody.
Matt Fred here.
might notice that I am in a different setup here in the studio. And that is because next week,
we are going to be releasing a brand new show here on Pines with Aquinas. And I said this,
didn't I? When I announced that I was going to be collaborating with the Daily Wire, that you
would still get the long-form discussions like you're used to seeing on Pints with Aquinas and
that we'd be doing more shows. Well, happy to announce, starting next week, this new show will be
called Last Call. Now, I don't know how you do in America. If I'm honest, in Australia at times,
you'll have the bartender ring a bell, and that's a sign that everybody has to come up for their last
drink if they want one. And so I thought, well, this is going to be fun. After I sit down with one of my
guests talking about who knows what, I'll then sit down with them again in this setting, and we'll do
something entirely different. So in some instances, we take your phone calls about different topics.
In other interviews, we've reviewed TikToks on Mormonism and atheism, and then I have my guests
so we're typically really well versed in these areas, utterly decimate them.
It's just a more laid-back, hopefully, fun episode.
They're definitely less than three hours, so you can breathe a sigh of relief.
Typically, they're around 45 minutes.
Really excited about this.
So whereas the Pines with Aquinas Long Form show will be releasing on Mondays, 12 p.m. Eastern.
Last call, we'll be releasing on, Maria, when is it?
Thursdays 7 p.m. Eastern. So I hope you can make it. I hope you enjoy it. I'll just give you a heads up as to
what's coming to show you how these shows differ. So the first one we're going to be releasing is a sit down I
have with my good friend, Father Gregory Pine. Now Father Gregory Pine has been with me since the
beginning of Pines with Aquinas in a way and he's been on every different set we've had over the years.
So what we do is we sit down and we review the different sets over the years and basically make fun of
ourselves and the sets. And then Father Pine blesses the place. So you get to see that.
It's just more of a personal chat. So I hope you'll join us. And now, since people have been
asking for this as well, I'm going to sit down with my wife and just sort of update everybody
about what's been going on in our lives. Not much, you know, just a little. I think the last
time I did this, just a kind of update was when I made the update that I was joining Daily Wire.
And everybody was so excited. Nobody was upset at all. Just everyone was full of congratulations.
and just whimsy.
And that was great.
So now we're going to sit down
and we're going to fill you in
on what's been happening these last few months.
All right, Cameron Fred, here we are.
Do you like that announcement?
Love it.
All right, so what people need to know is that
I've never seen this before.
I have a little thing in my ear.
See?
And producer Maria talks to me through this.
But it makes it really confusing
for guests like yourself
because she's telling me,
okay, we can go now.
And I'm like, all right, I'll start.
I'm like, oh my God.
I didn't hear her.
And then other times I'm just talking randomly to her.
How you doing?
Good.
Good.
Thanks for having me.
I like your pants.
Okay, listen, I didn't know I was going to be on camera today.
They're great pants.
When I picked these pants out, it's cold here.
They're having a very cold.
So I have compression pants underneath.
Lovely.
And then my lively papaya pants over.
Have we ever had papayas in the house?
In Guatemala, we had papayas.
But not in any house that we ever lived in.
All right.
Well, look, the reason I have brought you here is that the last time we did a sort of update,
like here's what's going on.
I think was when I announced that I was joining the Daily Wire.
I think you're right.
And do you remember, like, everyone was thrilled and no one got upset about that?
I thought that's how everyone would receive it, but I think you knew better, and I was shocked.
No, I knew it was going to go how it did.
But it was fun because I made the announcement, and you remember, I think I said to you ahead of time,
maybe you didn't know why.
I'm like, I'm going to make the announcement.
I'm turning my phone off, we're going to a beach house for like two nights.
We're going dark.
I'm like, hi, everyone's going to be so happy for you.
I really thought that.
In my world, everyone was very happy for you.
The children, myself.
It's been so great.
I'm thrilled about it.
And this is what I keep saying to you.
Like, I'm pretty neurotic.
You're on the opposite side of whatever the neurotic spectrum thing is.
So when people are kind of upset with me, I tend to feel it.
Like, I don't like when people don't like me.
But there's something about a lot of people being really angry at you where I'm like,
oh, I don't care anymore.
Yeah.
That's kind of how I feel.
But you feel that way about everybody, don't you?
Like if our next door neighbor decided Cameron sucks.
I'd be like, that's a shame.
Clearly he's wrong.
The Lord made me and I am good.
Yeah, that's beautiful.
That's what I would say to try to convince myself it was true, but I don't know if I could
believe it right away.
Yeah.
I maybe try to find out why.
I mean, no offense to our next to a neighbor who's not watching this,
but I don't know if I care about the next door neighbor,
but like someone I knew anyway.
But so anyway, we go dark.
I come back to my studio in Jacksonville,
turn on my phone and it just exploded, right?
Like eight million messages came through.
And someone said,
Isabel Brown.
She's like, Matt, you're trending on Twitter.
So just heads up.
If you ever trend on Twitter,
it's not because people are pumped about what you're doing.
You can just assume they're not thrilled.
Yeah.
So anyway, so that happened.
Because are you even on Twitter?
I don't even think you are.
I am on Twitter.
Oh.
But I do not tweet or post.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, that would be me too.
I think I technically have an account, but...
No, it's a dumpster fire.
You have to have a certain type of temperament.
I've been on twice since Musk's own it.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Every time I go in, which is like once, probably, I'm not even joking.
I've probably signed in once in the last six months.
Because I have other people who post things for me, because I'm so important.
But when I go in there, I'm there for 10 seconds.
I'm like, oh, that's why I never go in this.
Okay, but I know we mentioned this the last time we were together,
but we were supposed to be in Europe.
Right now, we were supposed to be living in Europe.
And that was the plan.
And I don't want to rehash this whole thing.
Right.
But Michael Knowles had a series that he was publishing.
I came here just to interview him, chat with Caleb.
Caleb offered me a job.
Were you interviewing him or he was interviewing you?
I interviewed, so here's what happened.
So, Noel's had a show come out on Pope Pius the 12th.
Oh, right, right, right.
And I, yeah, I came here to interview him
because he wasn't traveling because he's really important.
And this is this recurring theme.
I'm going to keep returning to it about people being important.
There you go.
And your family was in Europe, so you were fine going.
Yeah, because you're so important in Europe.
And then I met with Caleb.
He offered me that job.
I mean, by offer, I mean, he was like, what it looked like?
So he was essentially offering it, but we didn't know the details.
I texted you, you were like, all right, which is bananas.
Yep.
Well, I've always been supportive, right?
You have.
You absolutely have.
But I also think there was multiple things with Europe where I was very happy to do it.
I love Europe.
I love being there.
But you had said a few things.
The Muslims.
What else do you like about it?
Stop.
No, I just, my body.
body feels great when I'm there. I like the food. I love the beauty and the culture.
So many things. And I was happy to do it. But I feel like you said a couple things about
pints dye dying or slowly dying off, you know, taking a nose dive. And I think you were
going to be relieved. Like kind of like, eh, I'm fine with this. And so when this happened,
I think I was like, oh, like God's not done. That's interesting. Yeah. So my thought was,
And by the way, there was a joke about Europe.
Some countries are better than others.
Croatia is phenomenal.
Yeah.
Beautiful Catholics in Croatia.
So my thought was, all right, I'll live in Europe and I'll come back like every three months and I'll just batch or, you know, record.
And my thought was, and I'll just let it like peter off.
Like, it's fine.
It's a lot to run.
It's a lot to have employees.
It's a lot to run social media to keep up with things.
And I was just like, it's fine.
So it's really kind of wild.
Yeah.
I feel like I know that the Lord used it to bless a lot.
of people. Thank God. And you know that too, especially when we're in foreign countries and places
that we haven't even heard of, you know, and people like the Lord's used pints in such a beautiful way
and he's done a lot with it. And so I think that the timing was perfect because we hadn't actually
moved yet. We were getting ready. And I feel like all the things that were stressing you out,
I feel like Caleb was just like, I'll take care of all of that. I have people that can take
care of it, you know, and then you just get to sit back and do what you love, the part of the show
that gives you life. Do that. And we'll take care of everything else. And like I said to you,
and like I told people on that first announcement, I'm like, it took me about three weeks of me
saying to them, okay, sorry, why do you want me to do this again? You understand I'm Catholic,
right? Yeah. Okay. And remember what I said to him? I'm not going to be interviewing like
politicians. And he said, yeah, nobody wants you to do that.
Which was insulting and...
But you also try to convince him to hire a young guy to do the same...
Like, I'll tell you everything I do.
You do it.
Get a young guy and do it.
You hire a young guy and do it.
Interview who you want to interview.
And you see them want to do that.
I said, okay, so that's when I'm like, it's fully Catholic.
It's not going to be like a beige Christian appeal to everybody.
And I think we've proven that.
And what's been amazing is in the comments, everyone, I would say, for the most part,
has acknowledged that.
And it's been really beautiful.
As you're saying that, you have St. Francis over one shoulder.
the Pia Taa and the Theotokas behind the other.
Yeah.
So it's been beautiful.
Now the first episode we released, of course,
with Dr. Scott Hahn, that was amazing,
beautiful Christmas episode.
I love it, it's the only Christmas episode, Daily Wire put out.
Amazing.
And it's Catholic propaganda.
Come on.
Super, all about Christ.
All right.
Talk about keeping the Christ in Christmas.
But then I sit down with Dr. Brant Petra,
who I've wanted to have on the show for a long time,
and that show went gangbusters.
So prior to joining Daily Wire,
the only place we would post YouTube videos,
Sorry, videos was to YouTube.
But now, they post it to Spotify.
Like, that's the other thing.
People are like, post videos to Spotify.
I'm like, I don't know how to do these things.
I'm old.
Anyway, so now it's on Spotify, YouTube, Daily Wire,
and we're posting it on locals.
And there's clips on social media too, right?
Yeah.
But did you do that before?
Yeah.
Sorry.
No, that's all right.
I'm a homeschool mom.
I'm very busy trying to teach my kids to read.
No, but anyway, the interview was so incredible,
because Dr. Brandt Petra is incredible,
and people said they've been listening to it multiple times.
I was so moved by the episode,
but you were telling me,
you were driving home from some unknown place,
I won't say where,
but a city in Florida to our house and Philadelphia.
We're driving down the highway,
and our 16-year-old was like,
that guy in the truck is watching Pints with Aquinas.
She could see, like, the phone was like, I don't know,
up on a screen or whatever, like the magnet,
and Pines with Aquinas was on a random dude,
big old, like a huge truck, like an 18-wheeler.
Isn't that beautiful?
And so he's on this long road trip, cross-country.
And we had so many comments of people who are saying,
they've been open to the Catholic Church for a while
or their mother wants them to become Catholic,
and they're open to it.
But I think an episode like that just really help clear away some of the rubble
where beautiful Protestant Christians,
who you and I would love and get along with so well
because they're just good souls, are watching this.
And they're like, okay, like these guys love Jesus Christ,
I love the Bible. So that was good. Okay, I forgot to mention, though, before that happened,
before the release of that happened, you and I went to Sikh.
Oh, right. So for those at home, fellowship of Catholic University students,
Focus, every year runs a Sikh conference where they invite tens of thousands of people from
around the country to get together for a big conference. This was international. I met a lot of
people from other countries. The majority are American, but...
Yeah, no, totally. You're right, exactly. But they used to do it in one city, and now they've out
grown. Every city. They can't fit in a city. So they had three locations this year. It was the biggest
gathering they've had. And that was beautiful. And who gave us a welcome? I gave the, is that what you mean?
I gave, no. No. Sorry, I gave the welcoming talk. That's what I thought you were saying. Yeah,
no, that is true. But who, like, showed up on the screen and welcomed us and talked about focus?
Pope Leo? Oh yes, Pope Leo. That's way better than me. You're great, but it was Pope Leo.
That was amazing. Okay, so when they said, so it was after Holy Mass, which was so beautifully done,
focused on such a lovely job at celebrating a reverent liturgy with 16,000 people.
They had like a little symphony orchestra type people playing the music.
Playing beautiful. Very beautiful. That's what I meant by beautiful reverent.
Right. So anyway, they say, I get the sense, okay, Pope Leo's recorded a video and I don't know. I was expecting it to be, that's nice.
And it's really great they got him. You know, that's, but it's like, it's not what.
are we expecting here. He's going to say, hello people, and that's it. It was really profound.
It's actually on YouTube, so people should check it. Yes. People should check it. Now, the joke I made
was you are the most, I think you're probably the most extroverted person I've ever met. You and Michael
Knowles. Well, I'm in good company. My joke is, when I get into an elevator with someone I don't
know, it ruins my day. Yeah. So we're very different. I love people. I love people. I love
chatting with them. But what was funny is it's like, if, if,
If this was a video game and we both have health bars above our heads in said video game,
yes, fair.
By the end of the day, I am so depleted and you are just so frigging.
Yeah, I'm wired up.
My body's like exhausted and dying and I'm like, this is how fun.
I want to keep hanging out with everyone.
Yes.
Yeah, that's great.
All right.
So that happened.
Anything else about Sikh?
Seek was amazing.
Your talks went great.
Yeah.
I felt like being, I don't know if you're going.
you felt this, but I felt like being there, it was so much positive support for Pints being with
Daily Wire.
Like everyone was excited about it.
Can I be honest?
People in real life?
People in real life have only been beautiful.
Most people who are leaving unhinged comments are, they, I don't, this is going to sound
bad, but they look like they're middle-aged women.
Hey, as a middle-aged woman.
Now, I am not.
Let me go to your defense.
I'm helping you out.
No, but I feel like I need to nuance it.
I'm not one of these people who says that women are necessarily irrational.
There's a lot.
Okay.
So there's something called peri metapause.
What is this?
It's called peri metapause.
What is that?
So middle-aged women prior to metapause.
So I think, I don't know when it officially starts, but it's like kind of 43 to maybe 48,
you're in peri metapause until you're like 50.
What does that mean?
Perry.
Prior to maybe.
I don't know what it actually means.
Muria, fact check.
Peri metaporty metapos.
So our hormones are all changing, right?
Our estrogen, testosterone.
Like, I don't know, the real...
Maria's just laughing.
What?
Okay, keep going.
I just, I want to point out that I said very sheepishly
that a lot of women were irrational,
and you're like, no, here's the evidence.
All right, continue.
The reason they are,
because our hormones are all out of whack
and your body's going through, like, changes, right?
So my joke about raising teenagers,
I always say, I'm like,
if you have in your mind,
especially like people were like, oh, when you have, I love, first of all, I love our teenagers.
They're amazing and awesome.
But I remember people saying, wait, too, you have teenagers.
But if you look at them similar to the way you look at toddlers, like when a toddler's throwing a fit and they're on the floor, kicking their hands and feet, right?
And saying you're the worst mom ever because you said no, you don't get offended.
You're just kind of like, okay, sweetie.
And two minutes later, they're hugging you, kissing you, telling you're the best ever.
With hormonal teenagers, you do the same thing.
Let them have their moment.
And then afterwards, they're like, huh, I don't know why I was so moody.
It's like, it's okay.
It's hormones.
I love you.
I'm waiting for this to connect.
All right.
Metapause, women are going through changes with our bodies.
Again, perimetopause is right before, and that's when we're feeling it all.
So women are more likely to get depressed.
They're more likely to have like, well, I guess guys have midlife crises too.
But the hormone aspect affects women.
And I think we get hangrier quicker.
And so maybe online, we're.
I don't know. I feel like that was really misogynistic, personally.
Okay, but it is funny, like, I'll get these.
Not just people who are like, I'm really disappointed.
I'm like, okay, like I don't care.
Like you're allowed to be disappointed.
But people who write like, oh, capitals, it's got to the point where I'm like,
I see it and I go, oh, I bet it's a woman.
And then I look and it almost always is.
This is what I'm saying.
Okay.
We're going through this.
And I apologize on their behalf, okay?
I'm sorry for times that we're unaware.
Maria just said I'm fired. Wait, is she fired or am I fired? We're both fired. Okay, moving on,
I took John Chris to Mass. You did. Yeah. That is wonderful. So he contacted me and said,
would you like to do a podcast where I pick you up and we record ourselves driving to your church thing?
This is what he's saying. And we'll talk about it and I'll go to Mass and then we can like debrief on the drive home.
So I don't know if this was a good idea or not, but I said, well, yeah, I'll do it.
it and then I decided to take him to the Latin Mass.
It was a sung Latin Mass.
I thought it was very beautiful and is packed with these gorgeous young families.
I think that's the deal.
If you go to the Latin Mass, you have to have 8,000 children and be beautiful, apparently.
But here's what was funny is, okay, so we show up, we sit in the back pew and everyone's halfway
through the rosary.
So he's already lost.
Don't know, check this out.
And they're praying it in Latin.
Oh!
Right. So we're like, we're like five minutes in and he turns to me and he wasn't joking, but he said, has it started?
No, no, no, this isn't it. We're just prepping. But the priest had a, had a cold. He couldn't speak very well. So there was no homily. So it was just wall to wall Latin.
Yeah. Then that was it. Anyway, so that was fun. Yeah. I love that it's like, no, this is like our, this is like our stretching prior to the marathon. The marathon hasn't been.
started. I thought you were going to say halfway through the rosary, he's like, are we almost done?
Yes, no, he didn't do that, thankfully. He's like, has it started? I'm like, oh, you'll know.
You'll know what it's not. We'll all be standing up and there'll be incense and bells and
eight thousand altar boys. But no, he really liked it and it was just great. And it was really,
you know, it was really beautiful. You know, the internet is such a vicious place. But what I did is,
we took a photo and I posted the photo and I said, could you all say something kind and supportive to John
just in case he gets some blowback for attending Holy Mass.
Thousands of comments are people who are saying really beautiful things.
It was really encouraging.
Okay, speaking of encouraging and beautiful, two days ago, I was on the,
this is back to Pints being part of Daily Wire.
I was on the Daily Wire website.
And, you know, they have this, you scroll through the different videos
that have just come out, all right?
So you've got Shapiro talking about the Grammys and Ice.
Okay, awesome, good things.
him. On the other side, you've got Michael Knowles talking about the Epstein files. Do you even know what this is?
This is not me slight. I think you're beautiful for not knowing. Is it the Hollywood guy?
I just, you're the best. So in between, this is a running joke for those who don't know. There was a
time where I said to you, I used the word Andrew Tate and he went, who is that? And I said,
you are perfect. Don't ever look him up. Okay. Right. Is he the one from Hollywood? Can I be
honest with you? I don't think so. I think he. I thought maybe he took advantage of women. I
I don't know. I think, no, you're thinking of that, yeah, different fella. I think this guy was into different, it wasn't good. I'm not going to talk about it. But not a Hollywood guy. No. Okay. No, I think I've heard the name. I don't know who he is or was. Clearly, I don't either. So I was very patronizingly saying to you, oh, you're gorgeous. That's okay. I know something. Okay, so who was talking about him? Here's the point. You got Shapiro on one side, you've got Knowles on the other. And then I was sandwiched in the middle with my interview with a nun. And the title was just a beautiful,
conversation with a lovely nun or something like that. I love it. And I'm looking at it. I'm like,
how did this happen? I'm still convinced the Daily Wire made a terrible decision. No, I think
they were smart because it seems like they were talking about evil things and bad things.
And people are like, oh gosh, I feel horrible about who I am and myself. And then they're like,
here's a pretty gorgeous nun and an Australian. Yeah. Yes, I would like that. And then they
listen to it and they have hope again and then they'll stay on the website. Otherwise,
they may just cry in a pillow and never come back. It was a joy. All right. So things are
awesome. Okay, final point is, we'll be moving. Possibly. As our dear friend Carrie once said to
us, we move the way people take vacations. How do you feel about this possible move to the great
state of Tennessee. I, yeah, I don't think our plan was to move a lot. We were missionaries
early in marriage. And so it was a year commitment, you know, so I feel like anytime we stay
somewhere longer than a year, I'm like, that was a good long stay. Like, we've been in Florida,
what? Year and a half? Two and a half? No, year and a half? I don't know. I thought it was two and a half.
Who is Epstein? Epstein bar virus. I don't know. So about a year and a half.
Anyhow, I think for us, home is where we are and our children.
And that can be temporary in Europe for seven months or it can be in a house for six years.
I don't think we've ever done that, but it could be.
And I like the idea of that.
But yeah, I'm excited for the next chapter.
And I feel like when we left, so we lived in Ireland for three and a half years.
And before we made the big move to California to work for Catholic Answers, we did a
in Ottawa. And it was, what, a year? Maybe a year and a half. And I feel like we needed that time
for respite and to be healed. Like Ireland was brutal and really, really hard, both on our marriage
and on having a very colicky baby and everything. And he was hard on our marriage? Yeah. How so? So when we
first got married, I was working full time, going to school full time. Oh, in Texas, right? Yeah. I was an
unemployed illegal alien, really glad that ICE wasn't in full force at the time.
Continued.
I wasn't going to say that, but that's fair.
And so I was go, go, go.
And I don't think I knew how to sit and be still.
Like, I don't think I did because I was always going, right?
Right, I remember.
And then Ireland.
It was like, you want to just drink tea all day?
We had three channels on the TV and two were in Gaelic.
Yeah.
That's right.
And so you could only watch those three.
Oh, that was so great.
And then you just sit and be all the time.
And can we talk about how video stores exist at the time?
Yes.
So you and I, like you weren't pregnant yet, we would go to the video store and we would buy the entire season of 24, which I tried watching that recently.
And it just felt so two-dimensional.
I couldn't enjoy it.
But at the time.
I've never tried crack cocaine, but I would think it's not dissimilar to a season of 24.
You're just watching everything?
We would stay up like three in the morning, just pounding black.
tea. Probably not aware of how much caffeine was in black tea? I think we were thinking, oh yeah,
there's nothing. It's not coffee. It's like one more episode, one more. And we would,
well, we also didn't have much money, and you rented it for like the weekend. And the guy was
closed on Sundays, so we rented it Friday. 24 hours. We'd rent it Saturday and the return it
Monday and watch. It's literally hour by hour. Yeah, and very intense. Anyway, so it was hard on our
marriage because what? I think we were just new to it. New to it. We didn't have friends. We didn't have
family, we were in a very cold house. God bless the beautiful people who offered that to us to live in.
And there were very good people that don't get me wrong, good friends who were so lovely to us.
We were not accepted by the town. Yeah. Like to give you one little example of how not accepted.
I'm just so afraid someone's watching, but Kika. It's a random dude at a grocery store, my example. Okay.
So I'm pushing a trolley, a cart. What do we call it in America? I have the baby in the car seat in the trolley and someone comes up and talks to the baby in Gaelic.
in Irish and is like having a chat.
And I was like, oh, and he seemed like a friendly guy.
And so he's like, oh, hi, I'm Cameron.
And he goes like, put your hand out.
Like you're going to shake my hand.
Hey.
I know who he is.
Turns and walks away.
All right.
And I just.
I think part of the problem was we were teaching young people about chastity.
And at the school where priests were working and teaching religion, it wasn't the
priests, but it was other teachers who were making fun of us for saying that they should save
sex to a marriage, like actually holding up that those books.
we gave them, those little pamphlets, and they were like mocking it, remember?
Anyway, we don't need to get on that.
Anyway, so it was hard.
It was rough.
And then it was always freezing cold.
And even inside, even in the house, like our house was built by a priest who, and I know
what you're thinking.
You're thinking, oh, he's a priest and a carpenter.
Yeah, no, he's a priest who's not a carpenter who doesn't know how to build houses.
So our house was freezing cold all the time.
And it was hard.
Why are you talking about it?
Okay, because I was saying, I think Canada, we went back to friends and good people
that just loved us well.
And I felt like the Lord did a lot of healing there.
People are really getting a glimpse
to how we have conversations.
Because I'm like, wait,
why are we talking about a house
that was built by a priest?
So I felt like we needed our time in Ottawa.
And Ottawa is still so close to our hearts, right?
Like I just went there recently
and I was like, oh, it was like going home.
Even though we only lived there for a short period of time.
It was a respite and it was healing for our minds and our souls.
And we needed to be recharged before moving to California.
And then I feel like Florida's been that.
Like we need time to heal from my body in particular.
Yeah.
But I need time to heal from like we aged more in Stephen Mill.
Yes.
Then most people age in 20 years.
We aged in like three years.
It was brutal.
But I think that's a question like a lot of people who have been following our story because they're like, well, wait, how's she going to, how's her health going to do in Nashville?
But, yeah, you did great six months in Austria, right?
When we were there.
You were just up in Canada.
did well. So we really do think it was that area of Ohio. And DailyWire's being great,
where we don't have to. So this is me trying it out. Yes, they are. So someone may watch this
at a year from now. I'm like, isn't that funny? They never actually moved.
Yeah. Saying they're going to move to Nashville? Yeah, I think we will. So we're open to it.
But my point was, I feel like Florida's been a respite. Yeah. And a recharge. And like,
the Lord's been doing a lot of healing both on my body, but also just family time. Like,
studentville was amazing and beautiful and we had great fellowship but we always had kids going to this
event that event you know we're doing this cool thing downtown we're not like i feel like this time in
florida's just been like our family in our home yes that's great so and i think we're now
recharged enough to go on the next adventure which is tennessee i'm ready all right so i'm going to
try to tell you what my new show is okay and you tell me if what i'm saying makes any sense to you
because that'll give me an indicator as to whether I'm pitching this well.
So when I joined Daily Wire, I said that we're going to be doing more shows and more content,
you know, because all of this burden is being taken off me.
I get to do this.
I don't have to edit the things.
So next week, we're going to release our brand new show and it's called Last Call,
or as you would say, last call.
Yeah.
Do you know what last call?
When someone says that, what is that?
I think a closing time.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, so it's like that.
So basically it's a time for me to sit here in these seats to have a different type of conversation with one of my guests.
So sometimes we take people's phone calls.
Sometimes we look at TikToks and I have my guests who are experts on different topics respond to them.
Like I had Trent where you were.
I think we played him like seven TikToks.
And I'm like, destroy him, Trent, destroy him.
And he did.
Yeah, it was fun, you know.
And then other, like I had someone, I won't get into it because I don't want to ruin the surprise.
but, you know, I'll have like five different myths on this particular topic.
And so it's just a way to have, yeah, more of a casual, shorter conversation.
Right, Maria?
That's how it's how it is, correct?
That's exactly right.
Okay, good.
I love it.
We talk about menopause.
We talk about Epstein.
Whatever you want to talk about.
So you talking about Trent doing that reminds me of when we used to have missionaries knock on our door.
Yeah.
I would get excited being like, oh, Matt's going to talk.
to them and then you come and, you know,
poke holes in their theology.
Yeah, I remember I was, we were in San Diego.
I was laying in bed and you knocked on the door
because I was having a nap because I'm important
and needed a nap and you said,
honey, there's men at the doors, there's men at the door with Bibles.
And I got really excited.
Really excited.
You're like, ooh.
Yeah.
That's always fun.
So that's what the show is.
Last call, does that sound good?
Last cool?
You like that idea?
Last call.
It's great.
And we do other things as well.
So there's just going to be more and more stuff happening.
And it's almost like being here, collaborating with Daily Wire,
it gives my foot a bigger footprint.
Yes.
With the same amount of work.
So I'm just so grateful, you know?
I really am.
Like really, I'm really, I said we had a staff meeting here after I joined.
And I said, if I was any more excited, it would be inappropriate.
Like, I am just so grateful.
Yeah, I feel terrific.
I feel really, I'm really glad this happened.
Yeah.
Yeah, me too. And I think that your joy, I feel like it's almost like you're in September
right now. I'm in September. Okay, let me, so you always, you almost burn out every year.
Do I? So you want to quit. And that's why I take the month of August off. I don't, do you know
this about your, I think you know this about yourself? Do I know that I'm almost burn out all the
time? Yeah. 100%. Okay. I'm constantly about to burn out. Okay. But then, and so like you want to
quit. You want to throw the towel in. You're done. Move to the forest. I feel like Melanie and I are like,
let's just get them through a couple more months,
couple more months, and then it's August.
And you're like, it's just me and brothers caramaza off
or whatever you've decided that particular August is.
Yes.
And then you're okay in September.
You come back and you're like, oh, I enjoy sitting down and chatting with people.
You're exactly right.
So you're saying this is, I'm in a September moment right now.
That's good.
Yeah, which is good.
And it's like we get you back, right?
Like it's not old, tired, exhausted dad.
It's like, it's like.
That is, you know.
But it's like your joy's back.
Like I, as an outsider, well, I'm very much an insider, but like you enjoy doing, like,
you love pints.
You love the conversations.
But you're not good at making sure all the things happen or like people asking it to be on Spotify.
You're like, I don't know how to do that.
Like you don't have to like oversee everything.
Yes.
Like you get to just sit back and do what you do well and other people are taking care of the rest of it.
Yes, glory to Jesus Christ.
Well, thank you.
for being here.
You're welcome.
I love you.
You're a very good woman.
I like your papaya pants.
Thanks.
It made me think about my very bright bathrobe.
And then I thought, maybe last cool should be me and a guest sitting in bright colored
bathrobes.
This is another advantage of being...
You could do one of them.
Well, another advantage of being the Daily Wire is they get to knock down stupid ideas like
that.
They're like, that's so sweet.
We're not going to do that, though.
All right.
Or you could have someone, you have like a bar and they can serve you at your last drinks and you
hang up your business coat and then put on your papaya pants papyro all right there's no cute way to end
this so goodbye so last call the brand new show will be releasing every thursday 7 p.m. Eastern
and it will arrive a week early on DailyWire Plus and the DailyWire app if you just can't wait
but otherwise it'll be on all platforms Thursdays 7 p.m. Eastern time hope you can be there.
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