Pints With Aquinas - Michael Jones DESTROYS Muslim TikToks | Last Call Ep. 20

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

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and learn that Sharia law would be a hellhole for a poor woman like her. Mike, welcome to Last Cool, where you're drinking a whiskey and I'm drinking a throat coat tea. One of us has got to be a man. Man, yeah, come on. Like I said. Well done. All right, are you ready to destroy some Islamic TikToks? Absolutely.

As opposed to Islamists. I'm not saying we destroy them. That's not what I... All right, let's take a look at the first one. This comes from Australia representing... Apologise. Yeah, I apologize to the world. Go. Is this another miracle of Prophet Muhammad?

No! He said that the human body has 360 joints. But guess what? Scientists only just confirmed that the human body does in fact have exactly 360 joints. How could someone, 1,400 years ago, without modern technology, even know this? What do you guys think? I want to begin by apologising.

Not for her, but for me. Her accent is fantastically Australian. Mine has diluted over the years. I'm afraid I sound British. We're Americanizing you slowly. Slowly, it's happening. All right, who is this, Sheila, and what do you have to say? Do you know who it is?

That's Lily Jay, and that's false. First off, ancient Chinese writers said the body had 360 joints. This wasn't a modern discovery that was made, and it's also false. you have more joints when you're a baby and you slowly lose joints as you go through your life. So you never have continuously throughout your life 360 joints. You actually decrease in the numbers.

So this is false. I think this number isn't even accurate though. But even if it was, it comes from ancient Chinese medicine. And does Muhammad say this? There is a hadith. He says it, yeah. But it doesn't matter. He gets it probably from the ancient world,

which this information was flowing around. Okay. It's not some modern miracle or Islam. miracle or anything like that. All right, by Australian woman. Next, this fella. Who's this bloke? Oh, this guy.

You know him? He calls himself the money Muslim. He's helping Muslims invest. Is he? All right. Let's go. I can prove to you that Islam is the one true religion in 45 seconds. Point number one.

The Quran says the word man and woman 23 times and we have 23 pairs of chromosomes. The Quran also says the word land 13 times. times, the word C 32 times, and the makeup of our Earth is 71% sea and 29% land. That is crazy. Number three, it also says the word day 365 times, which is the exact calendar we use right now. And number four, it says the word month 12 times, which is the exact same calendar that we use right now. Number five, it mentions that the heavens and earths are constantly expanding. In the last 100 100 years, we just now found out that the universe is ever expanding. Number six, the Quran is 1,400

to years old. None of these things were around 1,400 years ago. It was written, transcribed by an illiterate man who could not read or write. How did he have been able to know any of that unless it was divine? That brings me to point number seven. Look at everything objectively. Objectively, if you look at what I just mentioned, how can you deny that Islam isn't the truth? Oh my gosh, God bless him. He just debunked Islam. How? He said the Quran says the heaven and Earth are expanding. The Earth isn't expanding. Therefore, Islam is false. Whoops. Does it say that? According to him, it doesn't actually say that. But according to him, it does. So, yeah, Islam is false. And by the way, Muslim scholars have debunk this. There are no numerical miracles in the Quran.

People just pick and choose. It doesn't actually say this kind of stuff. And if you just run an AI through this stuff, count the Arabic words in the Quran. How many times do you see day? How many times you see Earth, land? you're going to get various numbers, even depending on the models, because the Arabic can be kind of wonky depending on the way you're reading it. So, no, this is not a miracle. Muslims have debunk this. There's articles debunking this from Muslims. This is not a miracle.

He's not done his research. Is he a convert? Do you have any idea? Yeah, he's a white convert to Islam. Yeah, it's really sad. Why do you think it is they reach for these bizarre miracle claims? Is it because they have none? It's because they have none.

You're absolutely right. There is no evidence for Islam, so they have to go to this wonky, weird stuff that any atheist would laugh at if we had to use this for Christianity. As you know, Aquinas uses this and the supercontra Gentile is where he points out that Muhammad wasn't a prophet that he had no supernatural signs to authenticate his message. And again, this has been debunked by Muslims, scientific miracles, numerical miracles in the Quran, debunked by Muslims, pointing out. Really? Why are they, I mean, good for them, but why are they debunking these claims that allegedly prove their faith? I mean, I think at the end of the day, they don't want to look stupid. Right. Muslims are running around saying stuff that you can demonstrate is false by just going through

the Quran and counting these words. You're going to look stupid. And you see this stuff in Christianity as well. I haven't checked this out, but I remember seeing back in the day before social media where people would send these like email chain things and it was like, if you count up all the verses in scripture and then you divide it in half the middle verse, not realizing that the verses and they weren't put into the middle ages anyway. Right.

And I actually have never done the research to see if that was the middle verse, but even if it was what they claimed it to be, something like trusting God with your whole heart, it wouldn't matter. Yeah, it's just people. Humans like patterns. We look for patterns and we recognize it. That's all this could be even if it's true. I mean, but it isn't.

It's false. I'm Muslims looking at this fella and going, yeah. Yeah. Oh. Okay. This is what we're dealing with folks. It's what we're dealing with here. All right.

America should follow Sharia law. And before you get triggered, do you know what Sharia law actually means? Yes. Some people think that Sharia law is a system based off of punishment and oppression and politics. But the truth is it's actually just a system built to protect us. For example, in America, there are literally homeless people all over the place, every single city, right? But in UAE, one of the first things that I realize is that there are no homeless people anywhere. Imagine a society where the poor are cared for and contracts are honored.

Where animals can't be abused and exploitation, it's forbidden. America used to claim that they run for a system that promotes justice, inequality, and peace. But Sharia law and Islamic countries guarantees those things in ways that man-made laws never have. So please, don't be afraid of the word Sharia or the religion of Islam, be afraid of of a world without divine justice. Totally. You're a bigot. You are a bigot.

This is just a religion of Fannis! Why did you show me a video of a chicken advocating for KFC? What does that mean? It's a woman advocating for Islam is the same thing as a chicken advocating for KFC. Oh, all right. I think she's trying to get clicks and likes. Yeah, absolutely. Well, okay, let's just a bunker. No, the reason why the U of A doesn't have any homeless is because it's illegal in the U of A to sleep in public.

I like that. So anytime somebody is homeless, they kick them out of the country. Oh. So, yeah, this idea, this mirage we get from people like Tucker Carlson or her that, oh, these Islamic countries are so well, it's because they have such authoritarian laws in place to make it appear like it's a beautiful place with low crime and stuff. They're just kicking these people out. So what are you talking about?

And Sharia law is definitely based on abuse in a sense. authoritarianism. You don't have freedom of speech. You don't have freedom of the Second Amendment. You don't have freedom of religion. You can be a Christian under Sharia, but you can't publicly evangelize, proselytize, build new churches, publicly worship, pray, these kinds of things. And in Sharia law, it's legal for husbands to hit their wives. Surah 434 allows Mohammed, or allows men in Islam to hit their wives. Now, in fairness, you've got to give them two warnings, don't you? You're giving them two warnings, yes. First you advise them, then you separate beds, and if they continue, then you strike them. Child marriage also permissible under Sharia law. Sexual slavery,

permissible under Sharia law. This woman is insane or incredibly stupid. She does not know what she's talking about. She actually needs to read the Islamic sources and learn that Sharia law would be a hellhole for a poor woman, for a poor woman like her. I wonder if people go to UAE and like I kind of agree with this part of what she's saying. Like when you go to a country like Australia to America, there's a lot of rule broken down cities. There are, yeah. And a lot of places that look terrible. And you go to Europe or you go to UAE, it looks great. Yeah. But you could affirm the good things that are bringing that about without affirming Sharia law, presumably. Yeah. And you also have to recognize, I mean, the U of A is built on slave labor. They import a lot of people from India, Southeast Asia,

to live in horrible conditions, work for very poor. Totally. You can't own anything if you're not from the UAE. Go to Qatar, for example. It's that you can't be a citizen and be a Christian, Sorry, let me clarify, you can't own property in the UAE if you're from somewhere else. You can rent for like 100 years or something by purchasing it, purchasing it. Purchasing it, yeah. I mean, there's all these, what we see with these Islamic countries. I mean, not everything's bad, sure, but a lot of it's facade. The reason why there's no homeless, they'll kick you out of your homeless.

That's not the way you handle. You just give your problems of somebody else. Islamophobia is not random. It was designed. It was created on purpose. movies, news, politics all repeating the same script. For decades, Muslims were painted

as dangerous and stripped of their humanity. And do you know why? So later, anything could be done to them and the world will stay silent. What's happening in Palestine now, it's proof this strategy worked. Congratulations, world.

You fell for it. Yeah, so apparently Islamophobes have invented time machines and we went back can change the Islamic sources to make them sound violent. Powerful stuff, powerful. God bless her, yeah. Yeah, half the time I'm just quoting what your own Islamic sources show.

I mean, two things can be true at once, right? Like, it could be the case that people maybe treat Muslims in a bad way because of what they've heard of them. They might be prejudiced against it. That can be true, even from people who haven't read the original sources. And then it could also be true if those people were educated on the original sources, they would realize that some of the views they hold are actually accurate. Oh, yes.

Surin 929, fight those who do not believe in Allah or the last day, or comply with what him and his messenger are forbidden until they pay the jizya, willingly submitted, fully humbled. The Quran commands Muslims to fight us until we submit to them. Okay. Where are we getting this idea that Islam is violent? Oh, I don't know, maybe the Quran. What about Sahi Muslim?

where Muhammad says, I've been commanded to fight those until they pay the Zakat. That's the Islamic tax that Muslims have to pay. So I think that's Sahi Muslim 22. They have to pay this tax. And whenever we're not surprised that another Muslim has blown something up or killed somebody after shouting al-Aw Akbar.

Look at the research. Davis Brown, Monica Duffy Toff, Jonathan Fox, have found that Islam is associated with more violence and terrorism, increased conflicts. I mean, that's just the facts. We're not inventing something. This is not propaganda, this is facts.

Islam is associated with more violence and why, you look at their texts, the Hadith, the Quran, you see it in there. Surah 929, Surah 9-11, it's in Surah 8, it's all over the place, man. So this idea that this has all just been invented. No, we're going on what the Quran says, and by the way, we have actual studies published

by people like Davis Brown, Monica Duffy Toff, Jonathan Fox, showing that, yes, we do see violence associated, with Islam. Everyone should read the book, The Price of Freedom Denied. The two authors point out in that book that there's authoritarianism associated with Islam. There's increased levels of persecution associated with Islam. More oppression for Christians and Jews living in those countries. So this idea that we've invented this, no, we're going on what the facts are. There's a good reason to be Islamophobic.

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See the fellow who you invited to debate on my... I will invite him to debate me anywhere, anytime. Let's do it. All right. Do you know what made me assured that Islam is true, basically? Oh. For me, what made me assured that Islam is true is basically the Quran. So I started in-depth study of the Quran,

for my own self as a teenager, because I wanted to see certain things. I looked at everything, like all the claims that would be made for and against, from mathematical miracles to scientific miracles. I looked at everything. I looked at the linguistics. Now, the thing really that did it for me was the language. Because after a while, I realized that, you know what, this book could not, it's not fathomable that this could have been from human being.

If someone had, I'm not saying, obviously, this is not the case of the Prophet Mahamsanaana. But if someone had absolutely like the worst record in morality, yeah? But presented that book, I'd accept them as a prophet. Wow. What? So if someone lived a terrible, depraved life and wrote that book, he would accept him as a prophet. What's the argument? What does he mean by mathematical miracles?

Oh, it's what the guy earlier was saying. Oh, I said, yeah, yeah. Again, debunked by actual Muslims. Check out my video, numerical miracles debunked on my channel, where I just totally blew that out of the water. But this is such a subjective argument. The Quran sounds like it's from God, therefore it is. I can say that about anything.

Shakespeare could not have been written by a human, therefore he was an alien. Don't the Mormons make a similar claim about there? Although this is about Mormonism, but. But the funny thing is, is like, his own scholars don't agree. So Al-Tabradi was an early Islamic commentator on the Quran. He would point out the specific passages of the Quran

are not elegant in speech. They're sort of like, you know, not the best thing to say. This is not the best way to word it. So, I mean, how do you know that's from God? You just felt it that it was? That's not an argument that Islam is true. Oh, I just read this book. It came across as though it is from God, therefore it is.

There was a burning in the bosom. I read the Quran. I'm annoyed and bored. It's a boring book. It's Muhammad complaining half the time that no one believes him. Really? Yeah, he's just like, I've given you plenty of proofs that I'm a prophet. Why don't you believe you're going to burn in hell if you don't accept that I'm a prophet?

And the Quran makes errors. Like what? It says that it's confirming the prior scriptures that the Jews and Christians possess. The Bible. Subur 2.41, 447, 547, 568. So over and over again, the Quran is confirming the scriptures, confirming the scriptures of the Jews and Christians, but the Quran contradicts the scriptures of the Jews and Christians. So how could it be confirming it? So therefore, Islam is false. You can't confirm something

you contradict. That's a paradox. So Islam is false. You read that in the Quran and thought that was a miracle? No, that sounds like some illiterate moron of the 7th century not realizing he's contradicting the scriptures he's claiming to confirm. You talked about two Islamic dilemmas earlier. Yeah. One was the one you just laid out. Could you tell us what the second one is? And can you lay that out as a sort of argument? Yeah, it's the biblical prophet dilemma. The Quran, Surau 7-157 says we can find Muhammad in the scriptures of the Jews and Christians

the Torah and the Gospel. Okay? So you're setting up the Torah and the Gospel as the authority now. Well, guess what? They have a specific theology along with their prophecies. Those prophecies are theologically indexed.

So if the Torah and the gospel are predicting a future prophet, that prophet has to teach the same thing is what the Torah and the gospel are preaching. He cannot be preaching something that would contradict them. I see, yeah. It has to be at least in continuity with what they were saying. It's got to be in continuity with what they teach.

So if the Torah and the gospel predict a future Gentile prophet, that can't be Muhammad because Muhammad contradicts those. He's the definition of a false prophet according to our scriptures. So if there is a future Gentile prophet in our scriptures, Islam is false. But if there isn't, Islam is false because Islam says we can find a prophet in our scriptures. So it creates another. paradox. They have to find Muhammad in our scriptures, but it's impossible because that prophet

has to preach what's in line with our scriptures. Therefore, Islam is false. Either way, say goodbye to the miracle of the Quran being so amazing. I mean, what is the official position of Muslims on the death of Christ? The Sunnis and most Shias will say that he didn't die. He was taken to heaven and someone else was crucified in this place. Okay. Which is demonstrably false. We know Jesus was crucified. That's what I was thinking. So if you're a historian and you came to the conclusion that there was a man who'd lived and performed allegedly miracles and was crucified by the Romans,

could you just conclude that Islam is false based on that? Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Now, some Muslims will be like Quran only, so we'll try to reinterpret it, say, well, no, it's just saying the Jews didn't kill him. And I'll grant that. But I mean, the Sunni tradition, what the scholars laid out is like, nope, Jesus was not crucified, he was taken to heaven, and as a Sunni Muslim, and she has as well with their own scholars,

they have to accept that as dogma. What do you say to a Muslim who says, the only reason you don't fully understand it is because you're not reading it in the original Arabic. You're reading a translation of it, therefore your opinion doesn't matter. Okay, well then why was Allah so stupid that he didn't make a book that couldn't actually be understood in multiple languages to save us and convince us Islam is true?

That's ridiculous. Why do I have to learn Arabic? And again, there are Arabic Christians. There are ex-Muslims that speak Arabic, like Ishavarab, for example. So that's absurd. That you can easily debunk that because if it was so miraculous and amazing, everyone who understands Arabic should be a Muslim, and that's demonstrably false. Fair enough.

Muslims don't have the bravery that the Sahaba did in conveying the truth. So we lie and we cheat and we claim things that are not part of Islam. And guess what? Not all of them are dumb. They can tell when we lie. They can tell when someone sits behind it that says, Islam is peace. Islam is about peace.

There's no jihad. The only jihad is the jihad of the soul. You fight against your struggle. You know, your shaitan, chalas. Why are you afraid to tell the people the truth? Don't you think this caffar is going to open the Quran, read Sura al-Anfal,

and he's going to come across these ayat, the military ayat, which you've been trying to hide? Then what are you going to do? Oh no, but no, see you don't understand. This ayah was actually abrogated by the other ayah, so now they twist things around. So you keep playing with the dean of Allah and changing and altering and sugarcoating to please a bunch of people.

Wow, he just said the quiet bit out loud. He did, he said the quiet bit out loud. I'd love this guy for being honest. What's going on here? He's admitting that Islam is violent. It's about conquering and subjugating the world. It's not a religion of peace. The Quran is very clear that Muslims are to be violent.

They're to hate the disbelievers. Surin 98 says that we are the worst of creatures. Muslims are not to be allies with us and they are to make war on us continually and fighting the cause of Allah. So that's what I mean. Sometimes Muslims will be honest and they'll just admit, yeah, religion is not,

Islam is not a religion of peace. It's meant to be violent. And that goes to show you what they're doing when they tell us that Islam is a religion of peace. They're not here to conquer us, not here to subjugate us. It's called Takia. Do you think there are intelligent Muslims who live their faith and don't believe this stuff?

Yes. And they go to mosque and they're taught by their imam or whatever that is a religion of peace and they accept that? Yeah, and they just become very secularized Muslims. They're not actually following what the Quran teaches. I mean, that's the truth of it. Have you seen this bloke before? Have you watched his whole speech? No, I just found that online.

Wow. You know, when you were playing it there. So, I mean, like, no, this is just, that's just the way it is, man. And is this like a new trend, I wonder? Like, our Muslims beginning to be like, you know what, it's not even working when we lie to you. So let's just say it full-throatedly. Or is it when they start to gain power in a particular place, so they start to speak like that? The reason they're doing this is because they're apologetic is no longer about trying to convince you to join Islam.

Now they're trying to convince Muslims to not leave Islam. That all they're apologetic when they do the, they're apologetic, that kind of stuff, that's a signal to us and to non-Muslims. We're worried Muslims are leaving Islam, so we're going to start projecting our power and show our confidence to try to convince them to stay. That's what that's about. Because that would just terrify Westerners or non-Muslims. That apologetic is to try to prevent the avalanche of apostasy, and they're not doing a good job of it all mind. You know, Thomas Aquinas has what we call the preambles to faith. So there are a certain things that the intellect can know apart from faith, such as the existence of God and

certain things about him. And that kind of makes it easy to come to believe in God. I wonder if it would be helpful for us to help put up stumbling blocks to Islam, as it were. So as opposed to helping people who are open to the existence of God come to faith in Christ by showing them that there's good reasons to think it, can we do the opposite to those who might one day be Muslim by showing them now ahead of time before they get sucked into this while they're open to hearing it that this is irrational. Absolutely. And how do we do that?

We show them what the Quran says. I mean, it's not hard. The Quran permits wife beating. It tells Muslims to be violent. It tells them that they are to wage war on the nonbelievers for rejecting Muhammad. This is in Surin 929. That's just the facts. We can show them what Sahi Muslim says about Muhammad being committed to fight us until we

we pay the Zakat. In other words, we become Muslim. And we can show Muhammad being a warlord and expelling all the Jews and Christians from Arabia. Just show them the facts. The facts show Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of war, conquest, enslavement, subjugation. How do you help a Muslim abandon their faith if we're on the precipice of it? They start to see the internal contradictions. They see the arguments for Christianity. It's got to be a pretty difficult thing to do, especially if you're within a Muslim context, culture, family. Yeah, you've got to break down this idea that Quran is a miracle of God. You've got to show errors in the Quran. You show contradictions. Run the Islamic dilemma. You do that kind of stuff.

It starts to break down the facade that Islam is this perfect religion from God because you show, well, the Quran has so many contradictions and errors in it. You know the Quran says the Jews say Ezra's the son of God? I didn't know that. No, no Jew in history. that ever said Ezra is the son of God. So how do they interpret that today then? They say that maybe there was this pocket of Jews in Arabia that believe that, they just lost to history. It's nonsense. Because in the Hadith, it says that on judgment day, Allah is going to condemn the Jews for saying Ezra is the son of God.

And they're like, we didn't even say that. That'd be a great skit to make. Yeah, but I do think that's difficult you should make that skit. Yeah, I think it is, I think we don't appreciate sometimes how difficult it is for people to convert from their particular context. context. I mean, we've talked about Ishi of Arabia, who's a maid of both of ours, who comes from a Muslim family and had to say to his Muslim parents that I'm becoming a Christian. I mean, what is the cost for a Muslim who converts to Christianity? It's everything. But that's what Jesus said. You're going to give up everything to follow

me. But it will be worth it, I promise, because they'll be abandoned by their community, their family, their friends. That's what keeps people in Islam, unfortunately. They don't want to lose that connection. Because if you become an ex-Muslim, they're going to become an ex-Muslim, you have a death sentence on you according to Sharia. Yeah, that's what David Wood said. Can you talk more about that? Yeah, it's forbidden in Islam to leave Islam. If you become a Muslim, if you apostatize,

you have a death sentence on you. And that's in Sahia Abakari. It's a 6922, I believe, 6930, 6929 maybe. It's around there. So over and over again, the Hadiths say, if you leave Islam, you should be executed, you should be executed. So if you, people are terrified.

If you come out as an ex-Muslim, You have a death sentence on you, and Muslims are commanded to kill you because you left Islam. That's terrifying. I like to say that if you leave Christianity, you get a YouTube channel. If you leave Islam, you die. Ah, wow. You probably know that we talk a lot on this podcast about truth and beauty and goodness and how badly our culture is in need of these things.

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Is there like a hole that you wish would be filled when it comes to Islamic apologetics? Do you wish more people were pointing to these contradictions in Islam, trying to convert Muslims? Yes. And is this, what could they be doing that maybe isn't currently being done?

Or do we just need more of the same thing? We need more bravery. We need more people ready to stand up and faceless. and when that happens we will see an avalanche of apostasy we can't be scared of these people they want us to be scared

that's why they push a lot of the intimidation tactics and the violence because you know there are a lot of people that are scared that if they attack Islam there's a death sentence placed on it there's a death sentence placed on me for blaspheming Muhammad

and apparently I blasphemed Muhammad by stating facts he is a pedophile okay he is he was a pedophile he had sex with a nine-year girl he's therefore a pedophile and an evil man. Just saying that puts a death sentence on my head for blaspheming Muhammad. Why is that a death sentence if, according to you, Muslims are okay with pedophilia?

Because in their minds, being called a pedophile is a derogatory term. You can't call him that. Have you ever asked a Muslim who agreed that he consummated a marriage, quote, unquote, with a nine-year-old girl, what's wrong with pedophilia if it means this? and Muhammad did this? Have you ever tried to walk them down that logical road? Yeah, they'll just say that Aisha had matured enough, so she was a woman. As a nine-year-olds?

Yes, which is insanely stupid. Okay. It didn't happen. She was a child. I've done all the research. In fact, girls were maturing slower in that time period. The research has shown this that because of poor nutrition, girls were not even getting their periods to around the age of 14 to 16.

Okay. So the minimal age, a girl could have gotten her period in that time was 11. She was nine, so she was previewed best sent. Okay. So, Muhammad was evil. There's before I say that, there's a death sentence on my head for that. I don't care. The worst they can do is kill me and make me into a martyr and then a hundred more more

will take my place. So we need more bravery, we need more people willing to stand up and fight this evil disease and take this down before it destroys us. Let me play devil's advocate. If Muslims are called to be so violent or if they are so violent, why haven't you ever experienced violence in these debates? I mean, you go head to head with Muslims. Presumably, there's Muslims in the audience, and they, I mean, presumably they're pretty civil.

They don't shout at you. They don't threaten to kill you. They haven't tried to kill you. So maybe you're just blowing all this out of proportion. I've gotten death threats. And plus, when I do these debates, there's usually armed security there. So they're not gonna do anything stupid.

But I mean, one, you know, there have been anti-Muslim speakers that have been attacked on stages. There was a guy in Sweden that was killed a year ago. He was for burning the Quran. Someone came into his house and killed him. Gally. Luckily, we live in America, so I think Muslims are a little bit more hesitant to do that.

But I mean, like, I'm a little nervous when I go to the UK. I'm not going to lie. But, I mean, at the end of the day, I've got to fight for truth. It is what it is. Lay out some of the best apologists out there that are doing work against Islam so that we can look them up or read this stuff. Yeah. The best one out there is God Logic.

He's doing amazing stuff. Was he ever a Muslim? No, no. He just read a lot. He's read a lot, yeah. You have David Wood, you've apostate prophet, Ish of Arabia. You've got a guy, his name is Enz, E.N. ES, he's an Australian ex-Muslim with Turkish background as well. He's doing some good stuff. There's a lot of us out there doing stuff. Nick, a fearless truth. Fearless truth, he's doing some good stuff as well.

There's so many, I can't remember them all. Thank goodness. Yeah. We're growing community, fighting Islam, both Christians and ex-Muslim. So we're doing our best. How important would you say it is for a Christian to read the Quran before getting into this stuff? Okay, well, if you read the Quran, you're going to be bored as hell. Okay. It's a boring book. I don't think you'll make it through Surat 2.

Try it. Try to read Surat 2. I dare you. You won't make it through. It's super boring. Yeah. So read the Quran, but read it in parts, you know, maybe jump around a little bit because Sueh II is super boring.

I mean, the whole Quran is really boring, unfortunately. Maybe try reading some of the stuff at the end first. I've read it twice. I don't recommend it. Watch a lot of the videos we put out. That's going to be the best place to go for anti-Islamic apologetics. Watch some of us do live call and shows or debates. Myself, God Logic, Ishi of Arabia, Koli as well on TikTok.

I mean, there's a lot of that stuff. It's like you're learning how to do it by observing and watching us do it. And tell us about your channel, inspiring philosophy. What can people find there? Where should they go? why should they go? Yeah, it's YouTube.com slash inspiring philosophy. We do a lot of Christian apologetic content.

We do live calling shows with Muslims, atheists. We make a lot of different videos just defending Christianity and showing it is true. How many debates have you done at this point? More than I can count. What's the preparation like for that? Because you seem to be willing to take them on. Yeah, it's a lot of researching the topic

and researching the opponent. Figure out what makes them tick, figure out what arguments they're going to, use and get them scared. I mean, let them know you're coming for them. Okay, where's the line between being aggressive against the ideas and in your rhetoric? Sure, that's good. But where's the line between that and then just attacking the person and being belligerent and... I try to match fire with fire. I try to meet them where they're out. If they're going to attack me, the audience is going to be like, well, he insulted Mike Jones.

If Mike Jones insults him back, that makes sense. But do it in a classy way. Okay. You know, like a Muslim said that this was a Mossad tattoo because I have Joseo 4-6 tattooed on my arm. Okay. So I said, this is not a Mossad tattoo. This is the Bible.

And I have this on my arm. It says my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge to remind me not to make dumb arguments like what you just said. So that's how you do it. Awesome. Mike Jones, thanks for coming on the show. Thank you.

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