Pints With Aquinas - Seamus Coughlin DESTROYS the Gender Wars | Last Call Ep. 14

Episode Date: May 14, 2026

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but is disciplined enough to not do it until you get married? Destroyed. Shamus Cochlin from Freedom Tunes. Great to be here. And Twisted Plots. That's right. We have our new show at Twisted Plots. That was very generously crowdfunded by our incredible audience.

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Thank you. We'll put links to that. Those who know you know your stuff's unreal. Thanks for being here today. We're going to destroy the gender wars Gonna wreck it facts and logic. What does that mean? So we are currently in the midst of gender war two Gender War I was in like 2014 with Gamergate and in there was a lot of red pill content then a lot of feminist content and then it felt like that all kind of subsided and then a few years ago it exploded back into public consciousness on the internet for whatever reason All right. Well let's just get right into it. So I'm child free by choice and everyone always says like What's your purpose? If you don't have kids, what's your purpose? My purpose is getting my nails done, going shopping, treating myself.

Look at this new bag I just got from Goyard. I would never interrupt a woman, but can I interrupt? Okay. This is one thing that drives me crazy about the entire child free movement. Firstly, obviously there are people with fertility issues or who never got married, who couldn't have kids. I understand that. My heart goes out to them. Some people aren't meant to have kids, etc. All the necessary throat clearing aside.

It was years and years and years and years of us constantly hearing from the culture that the decision not to have children was not motivated by selfishness. And now every single time, one of them posts a video about why they're not having children, it's me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, I want to do this, I want to do that. I want to enjoy X, Y, and Z. And I'm sorry, but it doesn't matter what your vocation is in life. It doesn't matter if you're supposed to have kids, if you're not supposed to have kids. If you were motivated by pleasing yourself and that's it without thinking about what you're adding to the world or what good you can do, you're going to be miserable. You're going to be miserable. And part of why

this drives me crazy is she's like, well, what is my personal? purpose in life. And I really, honestly, I feel bad for her. I feel bad for so I almost don't want to go too hard on her. But when she's like, this is my motivation in life, this is my purpose in life, to get my nails done and to buy bags, that's really sad. And people in our culture have confused pleasure with purpose. Pleasure is a motivator, right? Pleasure gets you to want to do things, but it's generally not the purpose of the thing. So for example, if I'm eating food, the pleasure, the idea that the food's going to taste good is a motivator. But the reason I actually do it, the purpose of it is to fuel my metabolism. Similarly, sex within a loving marriage as it's supposed to be,

it's pleasurable. That's the motivator, but the purpose is procreation. We've completely lost any sense that things have a purpose. And so we've had to substitute pleasure for the purpose. So when more purposeful things come along, we go, but that's not as pleasurable. So why would I do that? Yeah. I also don't believe anyone has ever said to her if you don't have children, what's your purpose? I think you're right, too. Because nobody would, I would never make that argument. I would never say to somebody who doesn't have children, well, you don't have a purpose then. Or if somebody was, say, celibate for the kingdom of God, I wouldn't say, what's your purpose then? Or if someone couldn't have children, no one would ever say that. So she's telling us she doesn't have a purpose.

My whole life's about getting my nails done, it, about buying bags. That's not purposeful, right? That's just you going out and living selfishly. I really feel bad for, and I'll mention another thing, too. This is not the kind of thing you normally hear for me, because I'm not any kind of chauvinist. never say anything offensive, and I've probably done more for women than any podcast in the history of podcasts. I say this all. Literally, I genuinely do say this all with love. But women know that oftentimes when a woman says something, she doesn't like mean it literally. And I think there's some degree of that with her. It's possible this is just a cope. That's part of why I feel bad for her. I think that when somebody isn't in a position where they feel they can have

children or the person they want to be with, doesn't want to be with them, they do this whole, well, I'm winning by being fine on my own thing. And it's possible, this is that and that this is a person who does want to have kids, which is part of why I'm just kind of leaning towards feeling bad for her. And I hope that she finds the right person and I hope that she gets over this whole thing and she's able to live a selfless life and have kids and actually be happy because none of these things are going to fulfill her. This reminds me of something I've been speaking about on the podcast lately, Nietzsche's understanding of resent him more, by which he means hatred of the thing that you believe

yourself incapable of attaining. Oh my gosh. That's brilliant because it's something that we as Catholics recognize has become a huge part of. cultural commentary across the board. The vast majority of the time when someone's criticizing a specific way of life as being retrograde or antiquated or making marginalized identities feel unsafe, it's literally always the phenomenon that you just described. They don't feel they're capable of it

and so they have to hate on it. Whenever you see a family with a lot of children, there's somebody commenting, you can't do that in this economy or that's unrealistic. Instead of saying you can't do that, you should say I personally don't feel that I could and it makes me feel inferior on some level. But good luck to you.

Yeah, but also, the sad part is you probably can and just don't want to. It's sad to see people sell themselves short. Should we play the rest of this woman? Yeah, yeah, let's see. Being sober, traveling, I don't know, taking naps. Have you ever taken a nap? It's like the funnest thing ever. It's so nice.

I enjoy naps a lot. So don't say I don't have purpose just because I don't have kids. How dare you? All right, so that's the first one. God bless her. Great for her. To this point of Resented Morto, I think we want to escape the trap of accusing everybody else of something that we think we don't do. We do this all the time.

Oh, yeah. I do this. Sometimes I'll see someone on an Instagram, some fella showing me how much he can bench. And I'd be like, oh, how vain. You know, like, this guy, like, and it's like maybe or maybe, Matt, like you're just embarrassed that you can't do that. Like, that's the first thing I think we should do. Like, turn the spotlight on ourselves. I'm about to make the most controversial comment on my career, okay?

Do it. Even though I think veganism is morally backwards and it's a form of idolatry or not putting things in their proper place, I think one of the reasons people hate vegans is because they don't think they'd have the discipline to do it if they believed that. Okay. That's my hot take. Yeah, all right. Now, I don't support veganism at all and I'm not sympathetic to it. But whenever a modern person takes on any genuine discipline because of their moral conviction, I find it somewhat impressing because our culture or impressive because our culture tells us not to do that. I was waiting for something way more controversial.

No, no, I just said something that could be taken as mildly sympathetic to vegans, which I think is probably the most controversial thing I've done in my career. I don't think men should get married, I'll take, because of the financial ramifications of divorce. Well, that's a pre-ups are for. Pre-ups constantly get thrown out.

90% of child support payments go from men to women, and 97% of alimony payments go from men to women. So to be fair, in the court system, there is a bias against men. However, like, if you're a man and you're the brand winner, which is still the majority of relationships, I don't recommend it for men. So I don't think men should get married. How do you vet people to date and pursue a relationship?

Because wouldn't you be able to catch, like, oh, she's just after me for my money. She doesn't actually take an interest in me. But, okay, here's the thing. More than 50% of marriages end in divorce. So do you think that of all the people that get married, do you think going into marriage, they're thinking, yeah, I'm probably going to get divorced. How many people who get married, they're on their wedding day, they probably think, yeah, Yeah, this is it. This is the one. This is for life. And then one year, two year, three years go by. Things change. Who knows? And then they're divorced.

I've got a lot to say about that. Can I say a couple of things first? Yeah, absolutely. All right, you put it, and then you slam dunk it. Yeah. First thing to say is, it seems like it's inviting men to act out of fear. The second thing I think when men like this say men probably shouldn't get married. I understand he's not mandating it for old man, but he's discouraging it. Suppose we took his advice. One of two things would happen. We would have a, we'd either have no more. babies or we would have fornication and babies without fathers and more abortions.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, totally agree. Like in the spirit of what we were saying earlier of like attacking the idea and not the person, I will just say about Brian, even though I don't know him personally, I made a cartoon making fun of him and he was very cool about it. So, you know, appreciate that. And I am sympathetic to some of the arguments being made here and I understand why young men are afraid.

Now, it's important to flag that they're not afraid of marriage so much as they're afraid of divorce. The problem is he's framing this as if it's just a coin flip. There's this 50% chance you're going to get divorced. There's three main problems with the advice that he's giving here. I'm going to start with the first part. This is the statistical piece. So it's true that, yes, nationally, about 40% of new marriages end in divorce,

which is a frightening stat. But you know, I know, and the Red Pill community even knows that there are things you can do before you're married and in your marriage to lower the probability of getting divorced. The one the Red Pill community talks about all the time is marrying a virgin. They'll tell you, if you marry someone who is formerly promiscuous, your probability of getting divorced goes up. Okay, so then we agree it's not a coin toss. There are things you can do before getting married when selecting your partner to decrease the probability that you get divorced.

Maybe you're watching this and you're not a virgin, you were formerly promiscuous. Maybe you are a virgin, but you want to find other ways to strengthen your eventual marriage. All right, well, here's some other things you can do. according to Harvard, which is not a Catholic organization or institution, there's a 50% reduction in the probability of getting divorced if you're a practicing Catholic who goes to mass every week with your spouse. We also know that couples who live together before they're married have a higher propensity for divorce. And in the United States, up to 70% of married couples live together first. So 70% of people are doing something that we know statistically increases your odds of divorce.

So if you just don't do that, you are putting yourself above 70% of people with respect to your probability of getting divorced by that axiom. When it comes to natural family planning, we know that people who aren't using artificial contraceptive methods according to some statistical analyses have as low as a 5% chance of getting divorced. So the idea that divorce is just a coin toss, and it's not something that can be mitigated

by the choices you make when deciding who you're going to marry isn't true. This brings me to my second point, even if that was the case, even if it was just an inevitability, even if there was nothing you could do to prevent that from being the outcome, which we know isn't true, well, then you'd essentially have three options. Either get married and roll the dice on the supposedly blanket 50% probability of getting

divorce, which I'll grant for the sake of argument, or don't have kids, you don't continue your bloodline, you don't have grandchildren, your ancestors live through the most difficult times in history to get you here today and you're telling them, no, your bloodline doesn't continue because I'm scared, or there's a third option, which is you have a child outside of wedlock, which is something some red pillars have actually recommended, but in the vast majority of states in the U.S., you completely forfeit custody. A single mother who gives birth is considered the sole custodian. So don't even think about losing custody in court.

You'll have to fight to gain custody in the first place. So the highest probability of having children, keeping your children, not getting divorced, is finding a good person who's living chastity, marry them, live chastity yourself, don't use artificial methods of contraceptives, don't have sex before you get married to this person, don't live with them outside of marriage. If you do those things, your probability of getting divorced drops drastically. Now, here's my third point. Brian is saying he recommends that men don't get married across the board.

Here's the issue with that. If you're a very wealthy man, it's possible that you can get closer to old age and still have many prospects with respect to the dating marketplace. But I think what Brian is doing here is making the same mistake that a lot of Red Pillars laugh at young women for making. which is not foreseeing the inevitability that he is going to become less desirable with age or at the very least that most men will. He's probably doing well for himself

and so it's possible that he will just have enough money to continue to be interesting to women in his 50s and 60s. The vast majority of his audience members just statistically based on what average incomes are are not in that position. And by the time they're 50 or 60 years old, it's not like they're going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be

alone. And at 50 or 60, you've still got a lot of life to live. You got 30, 40, maybe 50 years left to what? Be alone? So no, that's absolutely horrible advice. And if you are one of the men fortunate enough to be wealthy enough that you can still attract female attention in your 60s because you're so in shape and you're so wealthy

that women are still interested, what's going to happen? You'll go down to the bar, maybe meet someone, have meaningless sex, probably need to, you know, pop a Viagra or have medication-assisted sex with a complete stranger instead of spending your older years with your grandchildren and children? What kind of life is that? It's terrible advice. You've convinced me. I'm going to get married.

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I did not know when I was 15 years old that I was going to spend so much time as an adult talking about my abortion. I have to be honest. It's not even like the 10th most interesting. I don't know this person. I don't know their heart, but it is most likely the case

that the reason she's talking about it so much is because she's the person that she's trying to convince that there is nothing wrong with what she did. Yeah, my heart breaks for her, actually. I think, you know, if you've committed some serious sin, you then have two options. One is to own it. And the two, the second one, which is much easier, is to justify it.

When you've paid someone to murder your unborn child, you have two options. You can either say, I'm a social revolutionary, I'm a hero, I'm a feminist hero, I'm fighting the patriarchy, or something, you can come up with some reason, or you can do something that's very difficult. You can say, I paid someone to murder my child. I'm responsible for the death of my child. And if you do that and fall on your knees before Jesus Christ, you will be forgiven, right? I totally agree with you.

And it's interesting because you see how angry and fired up and even vicious pro-abortion advocates will get while pushing back against the pro-life position. And sometimes it's a little bit strange because you go, we're the ones who believe this is life or death. Why are they the ones who are so worked up about it? The reality is they know it's life or death too because to admit to yourself that you killed your own child is going to destroy you. And when they see that you're recognizing the basic reality, that that was a human person, that they're not, not a parent, but they're the parent of a dead child, and that that was their decision, it tears them up. And so, of course, they have a very visceral, emotional reaction to that. And so we need to give these people our pity. We need to pray for them.

What she's doing is absolutely horrible. We cannot take agency away from her and do this thing where she's just a victim either. This is terrible. Instead of doing what an adult should do in helping young women to see the error of her ways so they avoid it, what is she doing? She's promoting it to a large audience. She's a beautiful woman who younger women are going to look up to and want to emulate. And what is she doing? Promoting child murder.

Promoting child murder. And not just promoting child murder, but promoting child murder that in all likelihood in her heart of hearts, she knows was murder and destroyed her internally. Let's listen to the rest of this. But after the extreme abortion bans began to pass, across the country, I felt very compelled to destigmatize a thing that one and three women experience in their reproductive lifetime. I'm okay to talk about my uterus and what happens with it and the fact that I had an abortion because I was not ready to be a parent yet.

And the fact that I am a parent now to two beautiful kids. So the parent of three beautiful children, fortunately, one of them is no longer with us. She says, I'm comfortable talking about what happened around my uterus. Really? Then why are you talking about your uterus? Why aren't you talking about the unborn child? You're not comfortable talking about it. She's clearly not comfortable talking about it. She wants to jump to other issues or make it about something else. Secondly, you hear her say there's these extreme anti-abortion laws. And then she goes on to say, one in three women will be involved with an abortion.

Sounds to me like the laws aren't extreme enough if one in three women have an abortion. You just contradicted yourself in the next sentence. One in three women have had an abortion? And you think abortion bans are extreme? And then I'd also ask, what abortion ban isn't extreme by that perspective? What abortion ban do pro-abortion advocates not consider to be extreme? Right. They think all of it's extreme.

That's exactly right. Sad situation, pray for her, man. That's really, that's rough. That's rough, man. One of the iron rules of Tamasi is iron rule number three, which is any girl that makes you wait for sex. The sex is never worth the weight. And it's not that, it's not the... It's not the investment side.

Now listen to me before you hear me out, because a lot of people like take this the wrong way, is it's about desire. It's about the genuine desire. Not about like the, oh, well, I got third date. Better get it going. You know, it's not that. It's about determining genuine desire after three dates should be more than enough time to figure out if this chick is into you or if there's some sort of mitigating factor between you getting into

into bed with her or into a relationship. Man, I hope people don't take this. fella seriously, not just because of the bandana, but also because are these rules his? Is this his rule that he's referring to? Yeah, yeah. Cool. All right. What do you think about this? Well, again, another guy we got to pray for. I will mention this. The rhetoric you get from some people in the red pill movement is schizophrenic, because on the one hand, they'll say, you don't want to be with a woman who won't sleep with you right away. You also don't want to be with the kind of woman who sleeps with somebody. Like, listen, I'm sorry. You can be

like a very high value man in the sexual marketplace, so to speak. Like me. But like me or Matt, yeah. But other people's decisions are their decisions? And it actually has more to do with them than you. So a good, disciplined woman isn't going to have sex with you even if she really wants to until you're married. So saying it's never worth waiting for sex.

Well, all of the statistics show that people who live the closest that we can determine to be a chaste life based on the data, have the lowest divorce rate. So if your concern is steering young men away from divorce, instead of just telling them don't get married, which is frankly unrealistic advice, because most men are going to, why don't you give them the tools to discern marriage properly? One of those tools is be with a virtuous woman. If a woman is having sex with you after three dates, is that an indication of virtue? Now, he's right that you should be with a woman who wants to have sex with you.

Now, what if I told you it is possible to find a woman who wants to have sex with you but is disciplined enough to not do it until you get married? And that was, I want to know your take on this, but that was my case. I mean, my wife and I met each other doing ministry work in Ireland. We were very attracted to each other. And there were multiple times throughout the first several months of our courtship where we had to be like, all right, we need to go out. We need to go do something, right?

because maybe we began to kiss. Well, you know what? We don't want to go down this road because we don't want to have sex before marriage. And I can say, hand to my heart, we did not have sex until our marriage. My wife was a virgin on her wedding night. And, yeah, it wasn't because the desire wasn't there.

It was because she was worth the weight. She thought I was worth the weight. And our trust and love in God and our faith was more important than the feelings of the other person, let's say. Like if she was hurt if I said, no or something. Yeah, amen to that. Well, and again, it goes deeper than just the feelings. Like you said, it's about choice.

you can want to be with someone and still say, no, I'm going to wait until I get married. And also, if you really, really are serious about protecting young men from divorce, you will tell them, don't have sex with her if you're not married, because you are going to release all sorts of hormones in your brain that are going to chemically bond you to a person and cause you to overlook their flaws. And if the sex is really good, you're going to think about how good the sex is and not how good her character is. And then what's going to happen?

So many people get lobotomized by their libido and sluble. leapwalk into a marriage because they were having sex before they should have been, before they got married. So if you really want young men to not get divorced, if you really want to help them avoid this horrible fate, and it is a horrible fate, the court system in this country is very biased against men in divorce. We should want to mitigate that. Okay, tell men, do not have sex with the woman you're with before you get married. You are setting yourself up for failure. You know when men say that their wife divorced them over dishes in the sink? My marriage kind of got very close to that point last year. And I just kind of want to, like, paint the picture.

So last year, we had just had our fourth baby. I was probably two or three months postpartum. And my husband and I had been working really hard to share the mental load and the domestic labor of our house. And we'd kind of done fair play, but not like fully. I'd read the book. He'd kind of like half committed to the idea. And a couple of the things that he committed to taking on to help my mornings be easier. And just like the house run smoother was trash and dishes. And by that I meant like taking out the trash and that's not just kitchen trash. That was also the diaper trash and I just can't listen to it anymore. Here's the point he didn't take out the trash and she wanted to get a divorce and then he shaped up and they're together so good.

The thing that really, there's a lot that bothers me about this. It's not that she doesn't have a legitimate concern, right? It's not that men and women shouldn't seek to alleviate each other's burdens. It's that her whole point here is that her husband sucks and that's why they got a almost go to divorce. First of all, you're shaming your spouse. Awful, yeah. Second of all, if you want to teach a lesson,

why don't you get on here and teach us about how you drop the ball in your marriage? I'm sure if your husband on here, he'd have a lot of things. It would actually be a lot more humble of you to come on and go, even if you wanted to say, you know, he wasn't doing this, but I also wasn't doing this.

But this is all about shame and her husband. Also, your flaw can't be, I wasn't loving myself enough or I wasn't standing up for myself enough. And that's what it was. And it actually has to be something real. But... I was joking with my wife about this.

We were watching this video before we did the show. And she was like, what she's saying is the low frequency, malicious voice that is like in the back of women's heads that you're supposed to ignore and say, like, let me focus on the good things people in my life are doing for me. But she does express it in such a sweet way and with a little bit of therapy talk. So it makes it sound legitimate. Yes. But men and women, listen, believe it or not, we've all got this. series of proclivities because of the fall, and we are liable to view something as an injustice, even if it wasn't, or to not look at the full picture.

And this is what my wonderful wife said. She made an excellent point where she's like, you can think all day long about various injustices in your life and in your relationships, but so often that just becomes a rally cry for, I will not serve, which is true. Yeah, we should look at injustices, but listen, it's human nature. you are going to notice the things you do and not notice the things other people do. That's true for men. That's true for women. That's true for everybody. So content like this is really dangerous because it's a very sweet, nice seeming woman who's validating a very toxic mindset. Yes. And I know when she first did this, it went viral because apparently her husband's alignment, which is one of the most difficult and dangerous jobs you can have. You work insane hours and you can almost die. So she could have thought to herself. My husband's going out, working his ass off to provide for our family.

You know, I'll talk to him about this when he gets home. He probably just forgot. Instead, she turns it into an entire rant. And by the way, even if she's totally right, one thing that drives a lot of men crazy and that should, frankly, is that so often when you have women talking about their marriage or giving advice on their marriage, there's some reference to divorce. I almost divorced my husband over this. This is why couples get divorced.

There's never like this was a problem with my marriage that we fixed, but of course I would never divorce my spouse. Yes, right. That's the thing. Like, maybe this is just me. I understand that because I'm, you know, a young man who hasn't been married that long, I'm liable to be responded to as if I just don't know what I'm talking about. I've been married.

I've been married 20 years. Exactly. So you can tell. And listen, I've also seen long marriages. My parents were married for 40-something years at this point. They're going on 50 years. I understand that marriages are often difficult. and some marriages are great in some stages and difficult in others.

But if divorce is even in your vocabulary, that's going to do massive damage to your prospect of having a happy marriage and a healthy marriage. Like people who even think about it. To me, that sounds insane. Now, granted, I am pretty newly married. I've been married for less than two years. But when people talk about divorce, I'm like, are you crazy? Yeah.

Are you crazy? That's not a word. It doesn't exist. It's not possible. Now, one piece of advice. Pride comes before the fall. I'm not saying I'm better than these people, and I've only been married for two years, right? but, you know, pray for a good marriage and pray for a happy marriage.

One thing my wife says, she gives advice. We were in a C.C. And this engaged couple came up and they said, do you have any advice for us? And my wife said to the woman, here's my advice. If y'all get into a fight or an argument, you, she was talking to the woman, you call a female friend who you know will take his side. And then she said to the fella, and you do the same. You call a male friend who will help you see her perspective. I think that's really important.

Yeah, that's really important. And also someone who knows you well, because you need people who know your bullshit. You need people who are like, no, dude, I know you did forget to do that. She's like not upset over nothing. You know, that sounds like something you would do. You really do need somebody in your life who isn't your spouse or you're close to who you can bounce these things off of and who's going to be honest because they have your genuine best interest at heart. I think that's good advice.

Final thoughts on the gender wars? I think they're bad, but I think we're winning. So what does that mean? When all of a sudden done the men, team boys, we're. We're winning. I'm sorry. The lady shouldn't have waged this battle. Explain what that means. Because when I look out, I just see both damaged in different ways. No, honestly, I'm being sarcastic because there are really, there are no winners. There are no winners because if something is bad for men, it's bad for women, and vice versa. There's nothing that's genuinely bad for women that's good for men. There's nothing that's genuinely bad for men that's good for women. All of the things you can point to that are going wrong in men's lives today because of the systemic injustices and divorce courts and the dating market place in the way our society talks about men generally. Those things negatively affect women. People roll your eyes when you say that because what feminists will do is they'll take

every bad thing that happens to men and make it about women instead. But what I'm saying is the reverse is also true and we have to analyze both through that framework. The bad things that happen to women in our culture, they're also bad for men. Because men and women are supposed to come together and become stronger instead of staying divided from one another and staying weaker. So love the opposite sex. If you're called to marriage, live chastity, become.

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I have so much respect for women who do that and offer hope and love and mercy to other women who've been in that situation. Yeah, I want to throw one more thing out here, piggybacking on what you just said about the fact that statistics show that people who have had sex, who have fornicated, who then come back into their faith and live chastity later have an increased likelihood

of staying together as opposed to other couples. We have to remember that a lot of these statistics can be pulled apart in a million different ways. And when it comes to virgins being more likely to have successful marriages, is, well, what is being a virgin correlate with? In many cases, religiosity. So we know, based on the data,

that if you're a practicing Catholic, living a good Catholic life, of course, the odds of divorce are never going to be zero. But at the end of the day, I think anyone could tell you with any venture in life, the way you act in the situation has a lot more to do with your chances of success

than any blanket statistic you can throw on it. Final thoughts about freedom tunes and your new animated anthology. Tell us about that as we wrap up. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm very excited. We got Freedom Tunes back up and running pretty recently. We had to take a couple months away because we got a new full-length animated show funded,

which we've all been working very, very hard to get produced. I'm just going to say this. Our first episode that was produced with this budget is so... I watched it with my kids. We all thought it was hilarious. Well, so that's awesome. The first episode, this is what I was going to say. That episode was produced out of pocket before we launched the crowdfunding campaign.

This first episode that we've produced with the budget, is so much better than the pilot in terms of quality jokes and animation that I'm trying to figure out how to release them in a way that makes it clear that they're both the same show and one came first. But I want the episode we're making now to be people's first impression because it's so good. And so the show overall, it's probably more for adults, but like you mentioned you watch it with your kids, it's not like South Park or something. It's maybe at the level of a Simpsons episode. You know, there's some cartoon violence and there's some jokes. that are a little risky now and again, but it's not edgy, really. It's not vulgar. It's

pretty safe. It's just not for like little kids or anything like that. Shamus, thanks for coming on the show. Thank you so much. I'm Brendan Steinhauser, CEO of the Alliance for Secure AI. We're a coalition of patriotic Americans who want to stop AI from taking our freedoms. Big Tech is propping up AI-powered mass surveillance and exploiting our children online. This is not the future we want. The Alliance is working hard to ensure that we put Americans first. Join us at SecureAiNow.org to learn more. Paid for by the Alliance for SecureAI.

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