Pints With Aquinas - Sisters of Life Respond to Real Reddit Posts About Abortion | Last Call Ep. 12

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

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It's actually experiencing God's mercy and that we don't reject them after that relationship that actually becomes the cause for their conversion. Wow. No fear is too great or no obstacle too great. To hold out to her a candle of hope. We've noticed even just walking with women in crisis pregnancies, the number one lie she hears. Sister Magnificate, Sister Mary Grace, thank you so much for being here.

Good to be with you, Matt. For those who have never seen the likes of you lovely ladies and your beautiful outfit, who are you? We're the sisters of life. Yes. Yeah, really just community of sisters that really just believe in the sacredness of every human person. So we take the three traditional bows of every sister, but then we take a fourth to protect and enhance sacredness of human life. So we're all over the US. We've got a house in Toronto, Canada, and we really serve women in crisis pregnancies. We walk with, yeah, students and we evangelize

over the country, sharing the good news of, yeah, the truth of every human person. And this amazing fact that we're made in God's image and likeness, that our lives are good and sacred. And we walk with women who have suffered the experience of an abortion too to hear this news anew again and be revived by life. So it's such an honor and a privilege to be here. And to see lives come back to life when we believe this news. Yeah. Absolutely. And so all right. So what's it like when you encounter somebody who's either thinking of having an abortion or has just had an abortion? I have two questions. One would be, what does she not

need to hear? And what does she need to hear and experience? That's a great question. Well, first, just to preface it with, it's amazing. It's really a miracle when a young woman comes before us and is able to share these things because that's something so, yeah, deep and personal in her heart. So for her to share her situation, her fears, her vulnerabilities, yeah, the question she's wrestling with, it's a huge privilege for us in a really sacred place to enter into. And so, yeah, most of the time women, honestly, that's a great question of what do they not need to hear versus what they do. Honestly, so many women we've seen just need listening. they just need someone to really receive them and their fears and not to jump too quickly to how can we fix this or you need to do this or you don't need to do this.

It's really listening to the deeper struggles there and speaking to her of hope and encouragement that we believe you, we see you, also validating that, okay, this is hard. And you are going through a lot right now and a lot of suffering and to represent. that suffering she is going through, but to hold out to her a candle of hope that we're here for you. You're not alone and will journey with you your whole way. Like, yeah, that way she can experience that, okay, no fear is too great or no obstacle too great. Yeah, for her to continue in her pregnancy. So that's beautiful. And almost like both women need to, in some way, hear the same thing. Yeah. You know, to a woman in a crisis pregnancy, she needs to know fundamentally that she's loved. Yeah. That you're loved and that you're capable, that your love is powerful. And then to the

woman who has suffered the experience of abortion to be assured again that you are loved. And that it's actually that it is love that supersedes and comes underneath every one of these difficult situations and times in our lives that we all experience where plans go astray or we do things we didn't think we'd ever do. Really, every woman needs to hear in that moment the crux of what is actually happening and this truth that she's loved and she is good and this is not the end of her story. That's it. You know, and often we've noticed even just walking with women in crisis pregnancies, the number one lie she hears is you're alone.

This is all on you. You need to get rid of this. You need to fix it. But this paralyzing fear that I'm completely alone and I need to take a course of action and figure it out on my own. So really the first dispelling thing is actually just to be present with a woman. A sister said, you know, listening to her, reminding her that she's loved. and really believing her so that she can take a step forward in freedom

and not be told what to do, not directed or dictated at or shunned or ashamed or isolated or distance at or, but actually to press in, to come closer and to refuse to remove ourselves from the situation by actually being with each other. And it's amazing the capacities that each of us have, especially in difficult situations when we're not abandoned. When we refuse to leave one another

and actually be a source of support encouragement. What's a story that comes to mind? Perhaps either a hopeful one. But I also wondered if you had worked with women, communed with women, as it were, but then they actually chose to have an abortion and then did they come back? What's that like? Yeah. Definitely all of it. We've seen a lot. It's such a share, you know, the whole experience in Christ's heart. Again, it's like a privilege to be with people in their hardest moments. And we just realized, yeah, there's just a gratitude that God's allowed us to be there. But you don't know always the end of the story.

And I'm just thinking of one young woman who it was, we really tried to, yeah, listen to her, receive her. And she was receiving love, but she was still just so pressured by the world and by people in her own family to get an abortion. and we had spent hours with her talking and also trying to talk to the family where there was openness and trying to present her all these opportunities. But sadly, you know, just the pressure was great and she had the abortion. And we do. We weep with these women. We weep for them.

And, you know, it's just, again, a mystery, a share in Christ's heart of Lord. Where are you in this? And he is. He's present. He's present. And he's there. He's the good shepherd. you know, who goes after us in our hardest moments and our weakest moments.

And this young one, you know, we didn't hear from her for a little while. But then it was amazing at a certain point. She reached back out. We had been trying to reach out. But then she responded and engaged in a relationship with us again. And then this time it was coming to know God's healing and His mercy. And so, again, we were there just to journey with them. the ups and the downs and yeah, just to reverence their hearts and their sorrows wherever

they're at and also rejoice in their victories, you know, and in the moments where they're able to make a step in faith. And so, yeah. It's amazing just to see that God doesn't give up on us, you know, just even, you know, we walk with women and we know what abortion, we've seen it firsthand what abortion does to women and it's like, it breaks your heart because you think, oh my gosh, there's got to be more we can do for them. Yeah. There's got to be. be a better way that we can serve these women. There's got to be a way that we can come be with them, but also too, to like not step back even if they choose differently from what we advise or we support them and say this is the best option. And sometimes it's in women's faith

journey. It's actually experiencing God's mercy and that we don't reject them after that relationship that actually becomes the cause for their conversion. Wow. You know, not only that we were like, hey, we know this is good for you, we're with you, are supporting you, but even in the midst of that rejection that we experienced, like, oh, they didn't see that. They weren't able to see it. Maybe there was pressure coming from elsewhere. But then, you know, a year later, two years later, decades later, they come back and there's an open door. That can be the cause for a deep conversion, you know.

I'm just thinking of one woman that gave us permission to share her story, and she suffered twice in her youth. And it's interesting what women have shared with us is that when they experience the suffering of abortion, which is such an offense to the maternal heart and such a deep hidden suffering that they often experience like a hidden grief. You know, that's not always seen on the outside. And lies, like this assault of lies. And one lie that women typically hear afterwards is this lie that I'm unforgivable. That because I've done that, I can never come back, or that there's no way forward, or I'm just carrying this dark mark in my life, and that's just always there.

And this one woman carried this lie that was such a weight on her, such a burden, that people weren't aware of it for like 40 years. And she finally was in a marriage with this gentleman that had this conversion and was then wanted to enter into the Catholic Church. And she panicked because she knew that that meant that she had to then go to confession. So she decided to quietly, basically divorce him so that he could progress on his faith journey. And then finally she had this conversation. She came down to this one moment which was in a kitchen with him and she just blurted out,

I had an abortion. I can't stop you from having your first confession. We need a divorce. And this gentleman just like caught on his knees before her and said, is that what has been holding you back all these years? And just communicated to her God's mercy, God's love and invite. her, will you come to confession with me too? And they did, she went to confession.

Come on. He entered the church and their marriage was blessed. And she shares that when she first shared with the priest, feeling ashamed all the way up until the day and had a real battle even getting to the church. Just felt like temptation to go. I'm not forgiven. I'm not welcome here. Shares her confession and this priest at the end of it just said to her,

welcome home little lamb, heaven rejoices and just spoke that scripture to her. Wow. Yeah, so it's just amazing to see the privilege of walking with women, but that seeing that God doesn't give up on us, you know, and this radical mercy that is constantly reaching out to all of us, and that God always has a plan for mercy and hope in our lives, even when we go against him. It's astounding. Well, I went on to Reddit. Yeah. I found some public posts from women, and I wanted to share them with you, again, since they're public, I'm divulging anything that I shouldn't, just to get you to speak to them. I'm sure they're

stories you've heard before. This first lady says, I have a one-year-old. I just went through it all. I vomited every day from morning till night for six months of pregnancy. My mental health suffered. It wasn't all bad. But I found that first six months of a baby pretty hellish. So she loves her son.

She goes on to say that her partner just hasn't helped. Extremely hands-off, hey? And so she just doesn't know if she can go on. with this unborn child, she continues, Anyway, I found out I'm pregnant, it's very early. I just feel like I got my life back. I went back to work. I don't want to be ill again.

And with two kids doing it all myself, I'll be in survival mode again for years. I asked him, her partner or husband, I'm not sure, if he'd step up and he said no. He is otherwise, by the way, an excellent financial. provider. I have a beautiful home, a family. I feel like my reasons are selfish. And I also can't shake this is my son, sister or brother. But the idea of the next two years, it seems almost impossible. It's not what I wanted for myself. And I fear it'd break my marriage and then I'd be a single mom with two kids under three. And I know, plenty cope, but I don't feel like I'd be happy.

Wow. Well, to this heroic young woman out there, what a beautiful mother's heart. Like, her heart is so good and her love so good. And there's just, you know, I think a great reverence for the suffering she's experiencing. I mean, immense to not feel like, yeah, she has support around her and then also the physical suffering and the feeling of I just don't know if I can get up and do this again. will it be fair to these children? And all of that is just so deserving of her being received in it and really having a community come around her. And so, yeah, I just want to speak. And I'm sure Sister will have something too.

But just the beauty of her heart and, again, what we share with women, that you're not alone and that there is help out there for this woman, you know, to be encouraged, to be supportive. that she should have people coming around her to come, like help her do the laundry to come, listen to her heart and all that she's going through. And just say, I don't know if she's a woman of faith or not, but that Jesus is with her there and her suffering.

I'm thinking of a young woman we served who had what's called hyper-emesis, so horrible morning sickness, her whole pregnancy, like could not get off the couch. And it is, it's a great cross for women to carry. And then they are not able to be as present to their, other children and a mystery. I'm not gonna try to explain that suffering, but I just remember this young woman

were serving, she had several children, and again, horrible morning sickness, her whole pregnancy. And one day she came to visit with us, and she had faith, and so we asked her at the end if she'd wanna go into the chapel, and she said yes, and we walked in, and just at that moment, it was one of our new convents,

and so we were still working on things around the house. But at that moment, there were some volunteers who were there, our new crucifix for the chapel had just arrived. And at the moment we walked into the chapel with her, our volunteer was hanging the crucifix there in the chapel. And nobody could miss this moment, including this woman. She just looked up and she intuitively knew,

he's here with me. Am I suffering? There he is on the cross with me. And in this pain. And that's just so important for any of us who are suffering and carrying heavy crosses. to know that we're not alone. Someone is there for us and with us and believes in us.

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Just to play maybe devil's advocate for a moment. I hope it doesn't come out too sideways. But you know, you say there's help available, but is there? I mean, where is this bloody help? Yes, absolutely. What are you talking about? Yes. And does that mean, what, you're going to give me a pram?

and diapers or like these people are in different parts of the country, they may be in different countries altogether. Absolutely. How do you know that there's help available? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I think my heart just goes out to her to say, I'm just, I'm so sorry that she feels so alone, you know, that breaks my heart.

Because it's not meant to be that way. God did not intend it to be that way. So I think even just acknowledging, like, I'm so sorry that you feel so alone. And that is the suffering in and of itself of like, yeah, at the moment, it sounds like literally the whole world is on her shoulders. And especially to hear from a father figure of the child and her partner. I'm not sure exactly the relationship, but for him to distance himself and say,

no, I'm not able to be there for you. It's such a pain, emotionally, mentally, even just to experience that separate from the children. I just want to reverence and, yeah, really say sorry to that young woman that she's already suffered that. And that's just so painful. And then also two, just to, really to, one, first of all, like already what she has gone through for her first child, this is a courageous woman we're talking about. This is a brave young mum that has already suffered a lot for her child, that has already nurtured this first precious one that has been entrusted to her.

And she's heroically fighting and laboring for this little boy behind closed doors and no one sees. And I really do think that mothers are the hidden warriors of our time. Like that child is going to know his goodness and go forward. in life because this mother has already sacrificed so much for him. And there is no act of love hidden or unseen that does not have eternal impact on lives. So this little boy already in her care is being blessed is honored by her love and her love is not wasted. And it's not a coincidence that God has entrusted her with another life. It sounds messy. It sounds confusing. but if God has entrusted to this young mum

a new gift of life, God trusts her. And he has a way for her, and that's where we need to stabilize our faith in. And God does not just want her to cope. This is not a survival vocation. This is God believes in her love and is going to give her a capacity to love in new and maybe even surprising ways that might even surprise her.

And she is, yeah, fundamentally not alone from God, but she also does need real support. And we can't take this cheaply. be too idealistic about this. Like this woman needs serious help in her life. I'm sure you've had a woman maybe say that to you. Like, where's the help? Absolutely. Yes. And what do you say to that? Yeah, I think first of all, we help her locate what's the biggest threat to her right now? Like, what is the biggest pressure? And honestly, for some women, it might be a new dishwasher. It might be putting food on the table that night. Or it might be like, wow, I need a mortgage on my house.

And I can't actually make this choice unless that's there. Then the answer is, okay, we turn to God in prayer and we turn to our human resources, all the co-workers, like your family. family and friends and doctors and medical people and lay people like everybody. And we find from our resources ways to actually provide and make real the promises we testify to. And, you know, I remember one woman, yeah, literally that we walked with. And I remember the first phone call I had with her. She listed her needs. And I literally, I couldn't keep up with the list.

It was like, yeah, new dishwasher. I need renovations in the house. I'm barely paying the school bills. She went through this massive list from little to small. But you know the last thing she said? she said, but I want to know if the promises of God are real, because if they are, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can handle the rest. Oh, wow. And actually that was, that was the deep, the deep question she had at the bottom that actually needed to be attended to just as much as those practicals. But sometimes we need to get to the practicals then to even allow a heart to consider God's promises. I mean, she's just worried about tonight's dinner. And we're talking about God's promises. It's like, actually, we need to help her in the very practical of life. If she needs a dinner, then yeah, we have people all over the world. Okay, if this woman's in, she's here in Nashville, okay, who do we know in the area who can legitimately show up to her house that day and maybe cook a meal or deliver a diaper and practically show what we're believing for her?

Yeah. Because that's just as important. I know there's been times in my life where maybe I've gotten into trouble or I've got in way over my head and really I don't want help. I want this to go away. Yeah. And so I suppose when you're saying there's help is available, that's not to say this won't be brutally hard. Absolutely. Exactly.

It's so true. Yep. Yeah. I'm thinking of the young woman I was speaking. of who again had the morning sickness and we did we put a team together because it was like she needs presence you know again just yeah the practical things but also just people to come into her house and to cook for her and to pick up her kids at school and to help with all of that but it's still it was like the day in and day out choice for her and that's where like sisters saying it's just

so heroic these mothers loves yeah thank you this next post is entitled i regret my abortion. I regretted almost every day. It feels like a loss. I made a mistake. I now have a two-month little girl, but she doesn't feel like my first. It feels like she had a sibling. I had the abortion because in all honesty, I was scared, but after having it, I told myself never again, which is how my beautiful little girl came about, but I'm haunted of the memory of the clot in the toilet, what it could have become. It would have been just like her. All my boyfriend can tell me is to not dwell on it. And he tells me we made the right choice in order to make me feel better. But I'd argue the timing of my little girl was worse, but we kept her and worked through it.

And she's perfect. My boyfriend also tries to comfort me by telling me that my current little girl wouldn't exist if I hadn't aborted. And he is correct and I feel guilty for still regretting what I did. I also know guilt isn't my boyfriend's intent. He just doesn't know what to say. to make it better because he knows it was a mistake too deep down. Words can't describe how much I love my little girl, but I can't help wondering what the first would have been like, their gender, their little personality. What did I just throw away like it was nothing?

Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Yeah, this woman who's out there, beautiful heart and so aware, aware of the pain, aware of, yeah, the love in her heart for these two little ones, the one she has right now, and the one that she lost, and also aware of her boyfriend, you know, just not able to meet her at that spot right now because of his struggles that he's going through. Yeah, so again, it is. It is just a sorrow for the trauma she's experienced. Yeah, and the pain. And her love, honestly, her love is so beautiful, you know, in that post.

Like that is a mother's heart right there. That is just so grieving. It's so grieving for the little one that she lost. And also trying to be a mother present to her little girl right now. Yeah, these are, yeah, painful areas of the heart. And I would just, I would just, yeah, I'd want to listen to her. I'd want to bring her into our content right now, honestly, and just hear more of her heart and journey with her.

And just tell her that her tears are precious. Her tears are precious and her grief is not wasted. that again it's important for her to be able to grieve it's important for her to be able to have a space for all that she's experienced and to be received in that yeah and that would just take time toward healing and to come to know that our God yeah he is he's faithful

and a God who makes things new but it's, you know, it's through our tears and through our grief and through the healing that we experience that the heart can be mended and tended to and can experience healing and hope, but I don't know what you'd want to add to us. No, it's beautiful. It's just a, yeah, it really breaks your heart. Yeah. You know, yeah, and if I had an opportunity to speak to that woman, I would say, I'm so sorry

if you're suffering. Yeah. And I think that's the lie the culture says that it doesn't matter. It doesn't affect you. It's nothing. It's just, it's a woman's right. And it's like, no, it's not. It's a woman's heart that's being hurt.

Yeah. And her suffering is real. It's real. And I would say to her that there's nothing wrong with you. Yeah. That actually you're a mother that's grieving. You're a mother that has suffered. And your maternal heart is beautiful and bold and knows that you have two children.

And we, yeah, we like to know and see the power of acknowledging with women, too, that their, that maternity is forever. Yeah. You know, and this, I think it sounds like the Lord is allowing her in a very beautiful way for these, for the suffering and the pain to arise because there is more to her than just the suffering and that she's not defined by it. It's not a stumbling lock in a past. This is a place of an opportunity for intimacy and encounter with the Lord, to allow the Lord to meet you there. Because Jesus graves with you. Jesus knows your pain. And I would just invite her to not be afraid to allow Jesus to speak to her there.

Because forgiveness is real. And this little one, yeah, this little one is in heaven and wants his mother to know of her goodness as well. And I would just say to her not to be afraid to seek the healing that the church offers. You know, we have such a powerful, merciful and kind God that is so interested in our healing and our life, and our life through healing. actually, you know, that there is no sin or setback that can prevent the love of God

from making all things new. So I would just invite you to go to the disposal of the riches of the church, you know, if you're Catholic. I would invite you to consider that because there is real tangible healing and grace in the sacrament of confession, but that's just the beginning of healing. And there's so much more for you. There is a future of hope for you and to not be afraid that the church has a lot to share with you. And this is not the end of your story. This chapters in your beginning. Yeah. Thank you. This final Reddit post is titled, Have you thought you would have an abortion, but once you got pregnant, changed your mind? She says, I'm 29 and currently about two months pregnant. My boyfriend lives across the country for the time being, and we both

agreed we would have an abortion if it came to it and planned for a child in the near future. However, I am now weighing the pros and cons of both options and keep imagining myself as a mom. I have no doubt I would give my absolute best to raise a child. I live in a three bedroom house alone and have my mother and sister close by, plus 13 nieces and nephews, though all out of state. I know I have the means and support system to move forward with having a child, but I don't think anyone is fully prepared their first time anyway. My boyfriend is definitely leaning towards abortion. God of mercy. And although he is not pressuring me to, I know that would be his preference, also aware that it's my choice ultimately. I'm feeling overwhelmed and

conflicted, mainly looking to hear stories of those who have decided to pursue having a baby when faced with this decision. Your responses are much appreciated. I'm sure you've had experiences like this meeting women who I was going to have an abortion, but now I'm sitting in front of you and I don't know what to do. And so many pressures from parents. And then of course, you know, I imagine this lady might be thinking, okay, my boyfriend says it's my choice, but is he really going to stick by if I go ahead and have this child? Yeah, so many unknowns before her. And again, it's just so beautiful. I mean, I would say to this young woman, her instincts are so spot on. Here she is allowing in the midst of all these pressures. And her boyfriend, you know, wanting the abortion,

she's allowing her heart to be alive. Like, she's not numbing it. She's not stuffing these things down. she's paying attention to, oh, maybe I could do it. And I want to be a mom. And so that's so important to pay attention to because, honestly, we do see, you know, just to her question of, you know, is it normal to flip-flop? I think that's normal for a lot of women. Absolutely. You know, I mean, oh, my goodness, one day, it's like I can do this the next day.

I can't do this at all. And so we've seen that a lot and are there just with women through it all. But we've also seen how people, you know, we don't know what her boyfriend, how he would be if he would come around her. But I just want to testify to we have seen like when a woman, again, has the support that she needs, is received, you know, and makes this act of faith in herself. Like, I'm going to continue in this pregnancy. see, often the other people around her eventually come on board too. You know, we've seen that time and time again where she decides to have the baby and maybe the boyfriend just needs a little space.

And then all of a sudden the baby's born and he wants to be there at the hospital. He's delighting in his little son there. And now grandma, who is so against her having this baby, is like, I'm a grandma. I love this little one. And so, yeah, you just, you don't know how people might change their mind. And that's the sorrow of abortion too, that often people feel so pressured to make a quick decision. But that's affecting, I mean, this woman's lives and so many others in the process. But when a woman, you know, just has the space and time to really, yeah, be received in it.

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And he went up to mom and said, are you okay? And she said, I just found out I'm pregnant. I don't know if I can do it. You know what this little boy said to her? She said, I'm with you. I believe in you. Let's do this together. She chose life.

You know, and I think this young woman is, I would say to her, Be brave and do not be afraid to reach out for help. Because actually, God did not intend you to work this journey on your own. And there are people that love you that believe in you. And you can do this. You have the capacity to love heroically. And we would be honored to journey with you. If we're those people or a church group or people that are supporting you in the decision to move forward in freedom and not in fear.

There are people out there with you. Okay. So along those lines, as we wrap up, I want to get really concrete. What are some ministries or retreats that people can look up right now? Like you just said, we would love to walk beside you. How do they reach out to the Sisters of Life? Are there retreats for people who have had abortions? What about for men whose wives or girlfriends have committed abortion is a healing for them?

What are some practical resources you'd point people to? Absolutely. Help me out, sister. Yeah, no. Well, first of all, just point them to our website, SistersofLife.org. that's where you can find pregnancy help. Okay, good. Yeah, and we have a whole website for that as well. But you can go to sisterselife.org, I think, would be the simplest place to direct everybody.

We'll put a link below. Absolutely. And then you can find healing retreats and ways to be company by sisters, all there. This is like the umbrella website. So that might be the most helpful thing to point in all. And then we do retreats for men, women all across the country as well. So everybody's welcome to check out, I would say. There's something for everyone.

That's great. Yeah. But there is help there, their support, and we don't need to do this alone. Rachel's Vineyard Retreats? Rachel's Vineyard does recommend. Yeah, absolutely. Dr. Bob Schutz has these Healing the Whole Person retreats, which aren't specifically aimed at people who have had an abortion or something.

So grateful. Yes. Something to look up. St. John Paul Healing Center, I believe that's good. Yes, absolutely. Sisters, thank you so much for being with me. Thank you for the opportunity, Matt. It's a joy. Thank you so much for watching Last Call.

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