Pints With Aquinas - The Future of the Show...

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Pints With Aquinas is nearly 10 years old. In this video I want to share some personal news about the next chapter of Pints With Aquinas and what it means for those of you who have supported me from the beginning. 📕 You can get my new book, Jesus Our Refuge, here: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Our-Refuge-Matt-Fradd-ebook/dp/B0FWJS12VV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=PYQA9VMLIHHI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mGJbOgNehCO80006YtYavz3YHKOFIqQ0-72ivve1NpwD6a1PNprQW48HCoBc0cAoBeqQywY8hGhlsbvSPq0QUTTB8CViyngqLdiwaG2cjHcA_YUZQ5EFmA18Ko-1muA3elcpwIb1AEEVg-pCraKaGy2IuwkwZz8mXVzRzzB8FbRoHaLYTcHjqHbuub3iuFDPW7WiDRjf7FS2q41fUl6LipDqQ94rzgVPsjoWuYR0LNQ.sDEoTHE_A8bn2XFEb6n21eBzsh2dyOXld4cTlIgXjG0&dib_tag=se&keywords=fradd&qid=1761605604&sprefix=fra%2Caps%2C356&sr=8-1

Pines with Aquinas is brought to you by Truthly, which is a groundbreaking Catholic AI app built to help you know, live and defend the Catholic faith. Start your seven-day free trial today when you download Truthly on the app store. And we are live here on YouTube. Hello everybody. Welcome to this video in which I am going to offer a big announcement. People have had some pretty wild ideas or suggestions on what the wild announcement might be. By the way, my wife is in the studio today. You won't be able to see her because we're doing some work here in the studio, but you can hear her. Hello. How are you?

Good. How are y'all? I was talking to your audience that I realized they can't talk back. How are you, honey? You're more important than them. They're great. I've had like, let's see, six shots of espresso today. All right, so only half the normal amount is what you're telling me?

Oh, yeah, yeah. Anyway, hi, everybody. So I'm going to be looking at you today. I'm going to tell you what's going on. There's a lot going on with Pines with Aquinas. And I've already announced this to my local supporters, but I wanted to announce it to you here. And I think the way to start it might be to talk about our trip to Austria earlier this year. My wife and I went to Austria with our children. We were there for two and a half months. It was there that I wrote this new book that just came out, Jesus Our Refuge, as well as another book that I just submitted that will be published to Word on Fire. I got to spend some time in Croatia as well, which is such a beautiful country and a really

vibrant Catholic country, actually. And while we were there, the Greek Catholic bishop asked me to consider moving to Croatia to teach, it sounds so wild to say it, to teach at an institute that he was starting. and we had pretty much accepted it because we're crazy and we'll go anywhere the Lord calls us to I'm going to get my phone real quick we have always we started our life off as missionaries and we kind of continued it and we're like Lord tell us where to go and we will go we'll go now but if I'm honest I think it's because I was just really tired of the podcast yeah maybe it was more you running away than running well I don't know I mean what I wasn't what I wasn't what I

wasn't tired with was the conversations with people. What I wasn't tired of was meeting people whose lives had been changed because of Pints. But what I was tired of is like running Pints with Aquinas. There's a lot to do. And, you know, there are people who are really talented who can blow up a YouTube channel just by them sitting in front of their laptop camera. That's not me, you know. We pay for flights. We get guests. We have editors. We have business managers, or a business manager. So it's just, it was a lot. So that's what I was considering doing.

And I kind of thought I would come back for every three months and just batch record and then go back to Croatia. And I think what I, what would have happened is that Pynes would have just gradually sort of withered on the vine and I was sort of okay with that. My business manager, Melanie Pritchard, who's like such a beautiful person, didn't tell me this until recently that she really could tell that a lot was going on

and she started praying for me and prayed that the Lord would sort of just guide my steps and guide me to where I need to be. So, anyway, long story short, I come back to the States two months ago now, two and a half months ago. My wife and kids were still in Croatia, Austria, around there. I go to The Daily Wire to interview Michael Knowles. And in the morning, I get a text from his producer saying that Caleb, the head of the Daily Wire, wanted to meet with me. And I like Caleb. He's beautiful. And I've just admired him and the Daily Wire for a long time. So I said, okay. Sure. I'll meet with him. And so I sit down in his office. I don't know how much. I've told you all of this, I'm sure. It's great. Go.

They don't know it. They want to get. No, I just, I don't know how much I've shared with you. Anyway, sit down in his office and we start talking. And I could feel the gravity of the conversation leaning towards him asking Pints with Aquinas to come under the Daily Wire. And I legit, I swear to you, I did not want him to ask me that question. So I very awkwardly threw it back to him.

I'm like, well, hey, what's it like now that you're the sole CEO? Like, how's, how's Daily Wire doing? And now Jeremy's not here. How are things, you know? He's like, good, good. And then he kept trying to... All right, so eventually he says to me, what would it look like for Pints with Aquinas

to come under the daily wire? And here's what I said. I said, I don't know, man. I don't even know if I want to keep running Pines with Aquinas. I'm tired. Do I have to keep doing this? Like, what's the off-ramp for people like me? Is it...

Do I have to wait until I have dementia? And then someone's like, you should really stop. I mean, I don't even know if I want to do this. which is like the worst sales pitch imaginable. But I wasn't trying to sell myself and I wasn't trying to sell pints with Aquinas. It was just being really honest. And the more I thought about it,

I realized that what was exhausting me, as I said earlier, was not the conversations, not the creative output, but managing pints. And he said that they could sort of take care of that. And I said something to him, looking back on it, was pretty defensive. I said, well, I'm not going to be interviewed. If I did come on,

I would never interview, like, politicians and stuff, and he's like, yeah, nobody wants you to do that, which was both reassuring and sort of offensive. Nobody has an appetite for you to talk to politics at all. And I said, well, it's a Catholic podcast. It would have to remain a fully Catholic podcast. Like, I wouldn't want to come on and, you know, like, oh, he's like our slightly more attractive Ali Beth Stucky. That's a joke.

You should laugh at that. Do you know who that is? I do. I like her. No, I do too. I just, uh, okay. She's prettier than you, but you are way more attractive to me than she is. You have, uh, much greater sex appeal than her. Wow. There it is, ladies and gentlemen. There it is. Thank you.

Anyway, I, uh, I, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't come on if you wanted Pints with Aquinas to be some, again, I'm being like way too defensive to him. Like some bland, like Christian account where you want me to appeal to all of your audience who's either Mormon or Protestant. He's like, yeah, no, I don't want that. I want you to have full creative control of your channel and for you to keep doing exactly what you are doing. But we want to help you reach a lot more people, do more episodes, because I'll have the infrastructure around me to be able to have the headspace to do more episodes, and just to increase your reach. And I went, yeah, all right, well, yeah, okay, I don't know. I'll think about it. So here's I brought my phone out because this is, do you remember what happened? You were in Croatia

and I texted you and I want you to comment on this. So I text you, I had just left Daily Wire offices in Nashville. I was in a taxi or a Uber and I went to a coffee shop and I texted you and I said, so I may have just been made a job offer, I may have just been offered a job at the Daily Wire and you texted back, whatever you want, dear, we can move to Croatia or Nashville or the moon. I'm just your supportive wife. Oh, that was nice of me. I don't even remember right now. I was jet lagged. I was exhausted. Yeah, I didn't mean that at all. No, I do mean it. But I was, I was in the middle of driving from like the southern tip of Croatia to Germany to then fly home with our kids. But it's true. It's like, okay, whatever you want.

No, well, yeah, but I think I said, stop it because it's not whatever Michael Scott. It's not whatever I want, when you wanted a vasectomy. Anyway. What I love about it is I feel like the Lord was just like, okay, I get it. I get that you're done and I get that you need a break. But what if I could just take all this stuff that you're not good with off your plate and you can keep reaching millions of people? Like we've been in the middle of nowhere, Germany, the middle of nowhere, Guatemala,

the middle of nowhere, Transylvania or, you know, Iceland. Like the reach of Pines with Aquinas already is massive. Like you are converting souls. Like people that used to be atheists that didn't even know God was... Yeah, well, I'm not. Yeah, thank you. I think that's right. I think that's right.

I think... The Lord is using you to convert many. I've seen Pines with Aquinas as a tower that I'm building. And then I get to invite people to come and stand on that tower to preach the Catholic faith to the world. And I know sometimes I'll have a Protestant on or an Orthodox person on or something. I understand that. I like having conversations with people who want to have conversations with, but I feel like it's like this tower that I'm building, and then I get to invite Dr. Scott Hahn, Dr. Peter

Kwasnevsky, Father Gregory Pine, onto the tower, you know what I mean? And it's, so that's been really beautiful. And you're exactly right. I was walking through split. Split is like a little like ocean city in, not little, but a city in Croatia. And I'm walking down the road there. And someone drives past and goes, Murfrid! That's bananas. I was at an Austrian kiosk in, at the Vienna airport. And the lady behind the counter says, I love Pines with Aquinas. I was at a Lego store in Vienna. Somebody said, I love Pines with Aquinas.

And I should tell everybody this. It's really wild. I actually texted Andrew Claven that had been made this job offer. And he said there are now more Catholics that work at the Daily Wire than at the Vatican, which may not have been as dark humor as he was meaning it to be, because I think that says more about the... Anyway. It's true, like you were with me at the Daily Wire.

It felt like every couple of minutes. Yeah, every couple of minutes, someone from the Daily Wire, because there's hundreds of people who work there from what I could tell, were getting up and thanking me for Pints with Aquinas. They were saying, I just converted, Pints helped, or, yeah, this, one of the hosts, and we won't say who, came to me and said, I'm Catholic Curious and I've been watching your podcast. But I kept getting stopped by people at the Daily Wire

with their giant crucifixes on and things like this. the Daily Wire just brought on Isabel Brown who's a beautiful woman and her show is fantastic she's another solid Catholic so anyway so I'm really excited because I

as I say just to repeat myself I can focus on what I love doing and they can focus on blowing it up and I know this might be of concern to people I think if one of the people I watched on YouTube was joining a company I think one of the questions I would have is do you really have editorial control of your own thing

or are you just going to do what they tell you? I want to make it really clear that I signed a contract where it was made very clear you have full editorial control of your podcast. They kept saying to me because I kept doubting that they would want this. This is funny, right? Even in the second or third meeting, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to lose the job they're offering me. I'm like, why would you even want this? Like, I'm confused. Why not just find some young guy? you know who's and blow him up and he can interview all your politicians and whoever else and they said yeah we don't want that we we want to bring you on and we they kept saying this we we don't want to get in the way of you and your audience so after two months of negotiations i believe them and i'm

really pumped my favorite is when we were meeting with someone that's one of the heads over there and he asked what your mission was yeah you can say it yeah and and what i love is you're like preaching Christ, right? Well, first I said to him, I said to this fellow who was a lovely fellow and he said, well, sorry. No, you tell it. Well, he said, what's your goal? And I want to help you reach it. And I said, okay, are you a Christian? And he said, no. And I said, okay, I want to use the daily wire to preach Jesus Christ and Holy Mother Church to the world. and when Christianity is like no longer working for you financially, I'll go somewhere else and do that. But I want to like, I want to take advantage of Daily Wire to do that. And what I loved is

he said, yeah, I can get on board with that. I'm like, wait a minute, do you even believe in God? This is very odd. I would not get on board for someone. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like the Lord was making it so abundantly clear. Like, yes, do this. And it was almost too easy. Daily Wire almost made it too good for you to say no too. And I think it was also the Lord, the timing of it with potentially going to Croatia and letting the podcast slowly die off. I want to say sorry to the people in Croatia who I gave the impression that, yeah, all right, we'll move to Croatia. Well, we thought that that's what we were going to do. We really did. We really, that's why, yeah. And that's where I think the timing of it shows this is the Lord's will. Yeah, this, this, this, there was a lot of prayer in this.

There was a lot of back and forth of my spiritual father. And anyway, so I'm jazzed. I'm pumped up like a pair of Reebok sneakers in the mid-90s. Eight ladies, mid-90s, can't tell. Mid-90s, early 90s, probably early 90s. What else is really great about this is they're hiring a team to come around me. So, you know, I have an executive producer. I have, we've sung her praises before, but Melanie is our business manager at Pines with Aquinas.

She came on board with pints back when it was like me and a microphone in a basement of my house. And she's been with us every step of the way and she's been such a blessing. And so when I said yes or when I looked like I was going to say yes to the daily wire, I'm like, I'd really like Melanie to come over. And they said yes to that. So we've got a small team of really faithful Catholics. I won't say who the executive producer is yet. But I reached out to this person and they said they're going to up their prayer life.

and I just love that seriousness that this is we want to do the Lord's work. In fact, I just wrote a letter to nuns, and then I printed that letter off 116 times, and I just mailed 116 envelopes to 116 different convents around the world begging for the prayers of these nuns. And I would beg your prayers, please pray for me, please pray. that I don't become a stumbling block. Oh, Lord Jesus, have mercy on me. Or if I do, may the good Lord Jesus know how to use stumbling blocks for his purposes and for the salvation of those. Yeah, God, have mercy. Yeah, so pray for me. What else? Okay, let's get into the,

yeah, you go. Yeah, what is the future look like for pints. Yeah, so let's get into the nitty gritty. The nitty gritty. Well, what I'm excited about is like we really were, like even if you want to share a little bit about sister from Austria, sharing about those boys in Iceland. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So what I'm excited about is I feel like we've been in all over the world in little areas and hearing stories of people that have encountered the faith because of pines. This was amazing. I was praying one day in Austria, just asking the Lord for his will and just sort of, you know, renouncing lies I was believing about him and me and everyone

and just praising him, telling him thank you for being so good. no, thank you for the good work you're doing. And I just, I won't get into it because it's too personal, but the Holy Spirit revealed something quite beautiful to me there, then and there. And it's the sort of thing that when it gets revealed to you in prayer, you're sort of reluctant to acknowledge it because it may have been, I don't know, whatever. It's the sort of thing you'd only share with your spiritual father. Is it because it's too good?

It's too good. It's too, I'm not sure how other people would interpret it. But it's good. Yeah, it's good. Well, anyway, but the thing that happened the next day completely confirmed what the Lord, I think, please, God was communicating with me that day, okay? So this nun shows up into our house, and she does, I know we've already said the country, I wish we hadn't of, because, well.

Well, I named Guatemala. Yeah, all right. So this nun shows up from this remote country. And she says, okay, they're in this country, very few Catholics. And anyone who does come to the Catholic Church there is an immigrant, like, they're Filipino or what have you. They're not from this particular country. But she says one day these two fellas rock up

from this country, they're natives of this country. And she's shocked because they know a lot about the Catholic Church. And she said, how do you know this? And they said, Pines with Aquinas. And I don't know if she knew of Pints with Aquinas then or not. I don't know if she did or not.

But they've started, this one boy sneaks out of his house every morning to attend Holy Mass while his father still sleeps in from his work. to, yeah, because he doesn't want to get in trouble by going to Holy Mass. And so they wrote me a letter and those things really just, yeah, they really move me. I'm really gratified by that. And I really think that this, so I've said yes to this offer just in case I wasn't clear on that.

I'm joining the Daily Wire and I'm really happy about it and I'm really honored. I've really admired the guys and girls at Daily Wire for a while. Of course, the more I've got to know them, the more I've lost respect for all of them, especially Matt Walsh. No, I really have. And so I'm really honored to be a part of it, and I'm really looking forward to this next venture.

So the first episode we're looking to do will be mid-December, and it'll be right here on Pines with Aquinas. It'll be a Christmas episode. but then the weekly episodes will begin in January and they're currently building me a brand new studio in Nashville and that's exciting and it's I didn't expect it

I remember when I rented this place I had the option to rent for one year or three years and I was kind of close to saying three years because I had no intention on moving but thankfully I said one year this new studio is really going to look awesome actually let me kind of give this analogy because I've been working with it

and it resonates with me I don't know if it'll resonate with anybody else but like running your own business the way I do there's a lot of needs that surface and I think of these needs like children that I'm not really taking care of the way that I should

so one of my kids his name is social media is like desperately malnourished because I haven't fed him people like do you have a social media manager I'm like I don't know I don't or you know I delete those things off my phone often, and I kind of ignore the child.

Yeah, I don't want that. Or, yeah, thumbnails or YouTube growth. Or someone said to me, could you please start putting your videos on Spotify? And I thought, it's that, but it's like times 100. There's so many needs now developing that, yeah, I can keep running it the way that it is, and maybe it'll be fine, but I'll probably get exhausted and stop. But you don't have an interest to dive down those roads, too. But anyway, I don't know what my point was, except to, yeah.

The children are malnourished. And I sat in this meeting at Daily Wire and I'm with, like, I counted them, 17 people around this table so good at what they do. Like all of them have amazing backgrounds and like business and social media and all this sort of stuff. And I'm just sitting there going, oh, wow, they're all here to help me blow this up. And I'm having these flashbacks between when I started Pints with Aquinas, almost 10 years ago, next year will be my 10th year, which is also what makes this move exciting, I think.

10 years ago, I started this and I was in my basement with a microphone and I started Pines with Aquinas to get some more credit for my, for my master's degree. You remember? Yeah. And I had a full-time job at the time. And so what was weird, though, is I would go to these different conventions with this full-time job and I'd man a table and everyone coming up to me would just want to talk about Pines with Aquinas, which made it really awkward because it made it seem like I've got this

side thing that's taken over. But you were getting zero dollars. I was getting very few dollars. I had Patreon up at the time. Oh, okay. And it was really... $5.75. And I got to give you a shout out here.

And I know I always do this, but I will always do this, right? So we were, we had a full-time salary. We had health benefits with this job, all right? And it got to the point where I could no longer have this side gig, you know? There's the job's like, come on, what are you doing? Which, fair enough. They have every right to say that, I suppose. And I went to you and I said,

I want to, what do you think about me quitting my job and taking pints with Aquinas full time? And at the time, what it looked like on paper was we would make, I think it was 30 to 35 grand a year, without any health insurance. And four kids. And four children and a beautiful but very sick wife, right? Is that fair?

Yeah, that's probably fair. We were in the North Georgia Mountains recuperating from serious stuff that just happened. and you were beautiful and said yeah let's do it and i was like whoa no push back more what do you mean let's do it and so it was within a week i called my employer and quit my job and went on the podcast and said to everybody hey i just quit my job if you want to support me on patreon that'd be awesome and it grew from there and that's when i reached out to melany pritchard who started taking over my speaking engagements and by god's grace i think it grew from there the other thing it was really cool. As you remember, a lot of the money that we were making for our family back then

came from speaking engagements. And this was right before COVID. So I'm jumping ahead a few years. And when COVID hit, no one knew what it was. But what we did realize is that all of my speaking engagements were now being canceled for the next, for the foreseeable future, like for the next year, which meant we had almost no money. Well, because people had paid deposits and we had to pay them back. That's what happened. So we were watching our bank account get lower and lower. I was like, we're okay, we're okay. And then as people were like, you know what, instead of rescheduling, I'm just canceling, could you send us our refund? It was like, oh, oh, ouch, and we had, and our big account got, and I was in dialogue at the time

with a, like a marketing company called Fuzzati, who were amazing, by the way, F-U-Z-A-I, and they were going to charge, it was around $4,000 a month, which we didn't have, but we were about, we were going to make it work from speaking engagements, which all just got canceled. And I think I came to you, and I'm like, I think I'm going to do this. And you went, yeah, let's do it, which is bananas. So we did it. And what was crazy is I think that's when we saw this, you know, I mean, it's all relative. But for me, it was like exponential growth because that was the time that everyone was online.

And it was right at the time that we decided to invest with money that we barely had to a marketing company. And it was before there was really other Catholic podcasts. Well, it's interesting. When I started Pines with Aquinas, I could name four other Catholic podcasts. I think I could name one other. At the time, there was Catholic stuff you should know. Oh, yeah. catching foxes. Mark Hart had Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. There was like a life teen podcast.

There was probably others. I just didn't know of them. But I'm jumping forward several years now around COVID. There were definitely a lot of podcasts in the Catholic space then. But anyway, so hey, I just want to end by thanking everybody who has supported me in one way or another. If you've watched the show, if you've shared the show, if you've supported us on locals or however you've supported me, I am really grateful. I was talking to a friend this morning while I was driving to the studio

and I was saying to him how grateful I am to everybody who supports me financially because it wouldn't be possible without them. And as I said that, I thought, that sounds condescending. But it's true. But it's actually true.

So I'm not asking for your support right now just in case you are afraid that's about to happen. But it's a huge thank you. But I'm so grateful for everybody who has supported this show. Thank you very much. And I also think

It's amazing. You being in these meetings now with like 20 people asking you these questions about can you do this, that, the other, and realizing, oh, wow, I haven't been doing any of that, you know? Like you and Melanie have been doing the best you can for sure. But it's not because you know the YouTube algorithms or whatever. You ignore all of that and you're just consecrate it to the Lord and you're like, Lord bless it and you show up. And what's amazing is how far the podcast has come and how many lives it's blessed. And now, Daily Wire is going to just throw gasoline on the Holy Spirit fire, and it's just going to... I think so. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Set the world ablaze. Yeah, please, it's his will.

And yeah, if he wants to do it, he can do it. I praise God. So that's what's happening, everybody. So you'll see the first episode, like we've got episodes that are coming out weekly, right, until the end of December here in this studio. You'll see a Christmas episode that'll release, you know, at the Daily Wire offices. Again, it's all here on pints, right? And, yeah, then starting in January, there'll be two episodes a week. So you're getting more Pines with Aquinas.

It's going to reach more people. I'm going to be able to do more. And I'm going to be able to kind of get the sort of guests that I would love to get. Like, I'd love to get, like, Bishop Athanasius Schneider on the show, you know? Oh, yeah. Thank you. Oh, I appreciate it. Yeah, feel free to ask me those questions, Joseph.

If they come up, you can ask. Cameron will look at the live chat. No, it's not going to be behind a paywall. It's all going to be the same. You know, like, so if you're just a casual viewer of Pints with Aquinas, you nothing will change except you'll start realizing that you're going to get more pints with Aquinas. It's going to be in an even more impressive looking studio.

That's all you're going to notice. You don't have to go anywhere else. It's just, it's right here on this channel. Please subscribe if you haven't already. So that's what's happening. and I'm I'm really jazzed about it I'll say one more thing I hope I'm not sharing too much here but I was really impressed with the contract that was given me by Daily Wire I was kind of afraid it would say hey we need all of your children and and you're not laughing anyway we

they can't have any of my children yeah but it was nothing like that it's it's like yeah yeah when you leave you take pints with Aquinas with you we don't want it what are we going to do with it like it was a very fair reasonable contract and everyone who was working with me there was awesome. So I'm not behind a paywall. Not behind a paywall. Other people are concerned that it won't be pints anymore, that maybe it'll become something else. Yes, and I think that's a fair concern. That was the concern I had. Keep watching. It won't. Yes, it won't. Let me, let me prove it to you. Like, fine. Like, be, be suspicious. I think that's okay. I think that makes sense. Like, if I knew,

let's say I hadn't had none of these conversations with the Daily Wire, and I heard that Trent Horn was joining them. That would be the very first thing I would think that this was going to become something other than it is, or they were going to curb his speech or something like that. But it won't happen. I'll say it for the third time. I have full editorial control on who my guests are.

And it's, yeah, so let me prove it to you. How about that? So you can be suspicious until I prove otherwise. No, the last thing I want to do is take nine years of work and then drive it off a cliff. I don't want to do that any more than you don't want me to do that. So to reiterate, sorry, real quick, to reiterate, like, I want people to love Jesus Christ and become Catholic. And that's what this podcast is about and will continue to be. Yeah.

Yeah, and I also think that they, like, in my mind, line, Daily Wire is political? Like, maybe explain how that's not what, like you're not coming under that. You're coming under the big umbrella. That's what surprised me so much. They talk about politics. But obviously, they do a lot of other things.

You know, they do movies and documentaries. And yeah, sure, documentaries intersect with politics, but almost everything intersects with politics in one way or another. But, yeah. Pints will still very much be. It's not a political show at all. It'll stay true.

If I ever interview a politician, Look, I don't know if people know this, but once upon a time, I said no to J.D. Vance coming on the show. This is before he was vice president because he was in Ohio. I was in Ohio. His people and my people were in touch. And I said, if you come on, it has to be about your conversion. Like, yeah, okay, we can touch upon political issues. Obviously, that's fine. But the thrust of the show has to be your conversion. And they said, well, right now, that doesn't make sense for us. I went, okay, then I don't, I don't want to do the interview. And that'll remain the same. So if in the future- You've also said no to presidents of other countries and things. Have I? Yeah. Don't say the country, but what? I'm not, but yes. Yes.

You, you- A president of another country? Yes. Okay. There, there's been many opportunities that have come across your way and you really pray about your guests. And you really discern, is this someone? I cannot wait to ask you who that president was. Don't tell me now because I'm not sure my facial expression will betray. No, but apparently I've done that. But I think you're very good about discerning should I have this person on or not and you'll continue to do that. Yeah. And you'll only interview people that you want to have on. Here's the problem with me, ladies and gentlemen. Even the Holy Father. You can have him on. I'd be on. I'm excited. Of course. I'm sure he's dying to get on the show. But if you are, Pope Leo, I would love to have you. I don't have a poker

face, which is really unfortunate for me, because if I'm not interested in you, you can tell. Isn't that true? Is that true? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I'm so sorry. I remember reading what Thomas Aquinas had to say about affability, the virtue of friendliness and why it's important. Like, just because you're not feeling it doesn't mean you have any right to be rude to people. And it was like a slap in the face from Aquinas. I was like, yeah, I have to be better at that. But I'm really bad at pretending to be into something if I'm not into something, which is why the only people I try to interview are people I want to interview, because it would not be good for anybody if I was talking to somebody who didn't interest me, because I'd just die a horrible death. Right? Yeah, you can't do it. That is funny,

you know, like, I often talk about how we, we're not our best judges of our own personalities, but that's something I can say pretty certain, yeah. Anyway, that's it, everybody. So thank you for those of you who are excited, fearful, whatever. I'm just very grateful for your support. And I pray that you'll continue to follow Pines with Aquinas. And look, how about this? I'll just say this. Like, let's say to the most cynical, critical person out there who just thinks this is going

to get worse. Okay, let me ask you this. What if it didn't? What if it didn't? What if it got better in the sense that it got to proclaim Jesus Christ and invite people into Holy Mother Church louder and with more, what if that happened? Would that, would you be, would you like that or would you not like that? And if you're a Catholic, I think you would say, all right, sure, if that happened, I'd be excited.

All right, well, let's make it happen. You pray for me and I promise you, that's, I promise you, I will do that. you know, the day I don't, I hope I'll quit and move to a little camper somewhere with you. That sounds good. Sure. I like you. Thanks. I like you too.

Did you want to plug your book? Hey, here's my book. It's called Jesus Our Refuge. It just came out. I don't make a cent from the proceeds of this book. All of the money that I would have got from this book goes into a fund. The publisher wants to distribute a million copies for free. So I never made a cent from this book.

I don't now. I never will. I wrote this book. It's the most intimate book I've ever written. It's about growing in intimacy with Jesus Christ. I think it's a much-needed book right now, and it's available on Amazon. We'll put the links in the description. It's available at Spirit of Wisdom Press, if you don't want to buy from Amazon. But I was really excited to see. I think it's number five in like Christian, spiritual, something. So I'd love you to help me beat all of the Protestants, even if you're a Protestant. I want you to help me beat all the Protestants on Amazon. Yeah, so that's the book.

Thank you. yes yes let's consecrate this to our blessed mother and we also pray for all those who were watching that they would fall more deeply in love with jesus christ and be more obedient to what he has called them to do and that i'll be obedient to what he's called me to do in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit amen hail mary full of grace the lord is with thee blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen. Amen. May all glory be to the Father, son, and to the Holy Spirit as it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be rolled with that end. Amen. Can I ask you

one more thing? Do you have anything else to say? TOTUS to us, Maria. Amen. Amen. One more question for everybody watching. It's selfish of me maybe to ask us. Would you Please offer one rosary for me and this mission. And if you are so kind to do that, would you tell me in the comments below that you will do that? I would love your support. Right before you asked that, someone named Glenn said,

one of my four rosaries will be for you and your family tomorrow, Matt. I love the humble. One of my 14 rosaries. I was joking. God bless you, Glenn. Yes. He said four for the record. I know.

I was joking. But good job, Glenn. Way to go. God bless you, Glenn. Yeah, please pray a rosary for me in this mission. And if you would do that, Could you comment that below just so I can feel encouraged to know that people are praying for me? And I think that this is going to be so beautiful and the Lord will do mighty things.

Like, give it all to him, you know? Somebody once said, Lord, use even my bullcrap as manure for the growth of others. Amen. And that's always been my prayer. So please pray for me if you would. And I think that's it. Yeah. Glory to Jesus Christ. Thanks everybody. Thanks very much. Thank you Cameron for being here. You're welcome