Pirate Wires - CEO K*ller Luigi Mangione Arrested, Daniel Penny Acquitted, Mystery Drones, Trump Wants Canada As A State

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

EPISODE #80 : Mamma Mia! Luigi Mangione was arrested this past week. We get into the discourse of it all. Democrat politicians are supporting his decision? Insane comments from AOC and Elizabeth Warren. But.. is Luigi actually the killer?? Is he gay? We got the all the *alleged* details. Justice prevailed this week as Daniel Penny was acquitted of all charges. Groups like BLM returned to their normal race rhetoric, but it didn’t quite hit the same, confirming a societal vibe shift from 2020. Finally, mystery drones in New Jersey, Governor Trudeau, and defund the police activist gets robbed in San Francisco. Enjoy!  Featuring Mike Solana, Brandon Gorrell, Riley Nork, Molly O'Shea We have partnered with Polymarket! Download the Polymarket: Election Forecast app https://apps.apple.com/us/app/polymarket-election-forecast/id6648798962 - Disclaimer: Not Financial Advice, For Entertainment Purposes Only. Sign Up For The Pirate Wires Daily!  https://get.piratewires.com/pw/daily https://piratewires.co/free_newsletter Topics Discussed: https://www.piratewires.com/p/the-killer-inside-you Pirate Wires Twitter: https://twitter.com/PirateWires Mike Twitter: https://twitter.com/micsolana Brandon Twitter: https://twitter.com/brandongorrell Riley Twitter: https://x.com/rylzdigital Molly Twitter: https://x.com/MollySOShea TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - Welcome Back To The Pod! 1:00 - Pirate Wires Crew LIVE in Los Angeles!  1:50 - UHC Assassin Arrested - Dems Defending It? Is He Actually The Real Killer? 27:45 - Polymarket Odds - Is Luigi Gay? Was The Evidence Planted? 37:10 - Daniel Penny Acquited - Justice prevails - BLM Response Doesn't Hit The Same 52:00 - Mystery Drones In NJ - Foreign Hostile? Or Just Airplanes 1:03:00 - Pirate Idol!!  1:04:00 - Governor Trudeau - Trump wants Canada To Be A State - Does Canada Want It Too?? 1:18:00 - Defund The Police Advocate Gets Robbed In SF - Funny How That Works.. 1:34:50 - Subscribe To The Daily! Like & Subscribe. Last Episode Of 2024 Next Week!! #podcast #technology #politics #culture

But you can only push people so far. And then they start to take matters into their own hands. Yeah. Mama Mia, my paisans. We gotta break this story down. Weird, bizarre thing after another bizarre thing. Now he's pleading not guilty. It's like, but you wrote a confession.

So what are we doing here? I don't get it. We need some black vigilantes. That's right. Daniel Penny was acquitted Monday of homicide in the chokehold death of Jordan Neely, a 30-year-old homeless man with a history of mental illness. The message didn't resonate. And actually, there weren't riots. And most Black people are looking at this the same way that we're looking at it. And they're like, that's fucking crazy.

what's up guys welcome back to the pirate wires pod we have a packed show so i'm just gonna get right into it today oh first up molly joining us we're in los angeles we're back at uh my favorite studio here you can tell because we've got Kramer with us. Molly's in town. This is where Brandon and Riley live. Last week while we were recording, it occurred to us that we could actually just do an in-person pod. So here we are again. Don't get used to it.

Probably I'll be back on my laptop next week. But for now, we're together. We've got coming up. Stay tuned for the Polymarket segment where we will will be discussing the i mean it's a whole host of crazy odds on luigi mangione the uh ceo assassin um but first we should just talk actually about that riley take it away yeah Yeah, mama mia, my paisans. We gotta break this story down about Luigi Mangione, the guy who was apprehended as a person of interest in the shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson and later charged with his murder. So much to unpack here, but Mangione was first detained after an employee recognized him at a McDonald's in Altoona Pennsylvania because I guess not even killers can resist the McRib apologies RFK Jr.

and according to police his fingerprints match the ones at the crime scene in New York City soon after he was identified and his name went public Mangione's background and social media history was brought to the spotlight. And this is where things get pretty interesting. For one, he at least at one point had a lot going for him. He was the valedictorian at a prestigious boys school in Baltimore, Ivy League graduate, former athlete, evidently was like pretty ripped at one point those expecting some like typical lefty antifa like easy to categorize liberal guy would be pretty mistaken at least based on some of his online activity he shared tim urban content he was an andrew huberman fan he i guess agreed with

tucker carlson about some of his takes about architecture. He even retweeted Peter Thiel content. Frankly, a lot of it lined up with a typical Pirate Writers reader. I was worried he was going to pop up on our subscriber list, but I guess we have since checked. I checked fast. That was a worry. But anyways,

Mangione did also seem to express some disdain for capitalism, or I guess you could say like modernity. He gave a favorable review of the Unabomber's manifesto. He had an interesting tweet about urbanized Japan, describing it as a quote, evolutionary mismatch for the human animal and calling for solutions like banning Tenga fleshlights and Japan real whole custom porn star pocket is being sold in Don Quixote grocery stores.

You can't say the guy wasn't creative, but the real radicalizing event for Mangione appears to be a back injury he had that I guess was pretty debilitating. His landlord said it even prevented him from like having sex which how would his landlord know that that's weird and his manifesto that was later leaked online decried how like expensive the u.s health care system is um something that lefties like elizabeth warren of course latched onto saying quote violence is never the answer but people can only be pushed so far we'll say it over and over violence is never the answer, but people can only be pushed so far. We'll say it over and over. Violence is never the answer. This guy gets a trial who's allegedly killed the CEO of UnitedHealth. But you can only push people so far.

And then they start to take matters into their own hands. Lastly is another possible factor. Luigi also seemed to be a pretty big fan of psychedelic drugs. Luigi, Mario, mushrooms, the parallels continue. But how much any of that played a role in the murder, I suppose, remains to be seen. Yeah, I saw that. I mean, once the identity reveal happened, I was like. I was online.

I mean, I fucking live online. So I went the second it happened, maybe within two minutes, I saw the name. I saw you at a Twitter. I saw that he had, I saw three things. I saw, I saw Huberman. Like you said, I saw Tim Urban who I later DM'd and was like, bro, I feel bad for you. Let me know how I can help. This is going to be crazy for you. And then I saw Peter Thiel video and I thought, oh fuck, he's one of ours. He is like a hundred percent one of ours. And when you look into it, I mean, the more you look and the more you see, yeah, there was some leftist sentiment, but he's a tech bro. And, uh, I saw a kind of sad destruction of a of a person i think um you could see i pieced together a lot i pieced together not only what he was looking at and reading but also um friends of his were online looking for him you saw his family it looks like he went missing um over the summer he was supposed to be at a wedding from what i could tell and he just didn't show up to it and his

friends were looking for him it just the portrait that that sort of revealed itself to me was one of a really real tragedy like this pain happened i think it happened concurrent the back pain happened uh debilitating back pain seemed to have happened concurrently with psychedelic use perhaps this is all speculation at this point um he lost his mind a little bit became fixated on this as a path to do something and went and killed someone if it's him, which we can maybe talk about in a second. It seems like it's him. We focused a lot last week on the unhinged reaction to him. I think I didn't want to do that again, but the Elizabeth Warren one, you know, Bernie Sanders had had a

statement that you expect from a communist, but he's like a principled good guy and a communist. If that's possible, I think he really does sort of walk that tightrope. Well, he, he, it was very clear to me that he had a, he was unequivocally really trying to stop people from political violence. And then he's like, but let's also talk about healthcare or now let's talk about healthcare. Warren's did not feel that way to me. Elizabeth Warren felt very sort of almost like a tacit endorsement to be rationalizing it and understanding it and justifying it. And then just as we started this podcast, there was the one that popped up from Ocasio-Cortez, which was crazy to me. This is not to comment and this is not to say that an act of violence is justified,

but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that people interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an act of violence against them. Now, I just wrote a piece about this. You guys should check it out on PirateWires.com. It's called The Killer Inside You. The fact that we absolutely cannot be talking about healthcare right now. We can maybe be talking about the problem of extrajudicial public execution of class traitors and the problem of violence in the streets. If you want to have a discourse about that, whatever. If politicians want to talk about that, whatever.

But by having a conversation about healthcare right now, you are rewarding a behavior that concluded in the execution of a human being. You are guaranteeing, absolutely guaranteeing that it will happen again. And I'm really like I'm very, very nervous for a couple of reasons. One, in this dude, Luigi, I actually was frightened in sort of like seeing a bit of ourselves, not the communists that you typically expect, though they're all celebrating it. And really, you can tell, you can tell they're really trying to memory hole the fact that he's a teal boy. Like they don't want to believe that. Like they're like, no, he's one of ours. He's a folk hero, whatever. But this is the thing that I'm really nervous about is, is the way that now these politicians, these major and very popular politicians have absolutely rewarded the

behavior. And, um, and we're going to, I think we're going to see more of it. I'm worried. What do you think Molly? I'm actually concerned for that point. Exactly. I think it's fueling the fire even more of making it somewhat socially acceptable because if it's, uh, if it's brought up and you're starting to talk about health care because of it, well, that's good. We should be talking about health care, but I don't think it should be related to a murder. I think it should be bifurcated. Let's talk about that back later when RFK is in place and we're in a new segment of society, but, but actually giving this more fuel to the fire and then blowing up the case even more, just, just kind of makes it okay. It kind of makes it feel like, oh, okay.

So actually if I do do something like this, I will get recognition for it. It will go viral and I'll create a movement. And I think that's really dangerous. go viral and I'll create a movement. And I think that's really dangerous. It feels like the movement is here to me. Like it does feel, it feels like they did it. This, this feels really like Columbine to me in the way that it has captivated. I was, I don't remember, you guys are too young for this. I think I was also young for this. I was, I think, how old were we? That was 99, right? So I would have been like 13 or something. The, like everything stopped at that moment. And we learned about the trench coat mafia. And at that moment, it's like this dark covenant with

Satan. Okay. Like that attention unearths this demonic force that captivates you and then we have been reliving columbine for 20 fucking years like it constantly had versions of that happen again and again and again and again it's because of that initial moment that initial moment is rewarded these misfits in high school are rewarded with immense amounts of attention and and it's like that's what we've been living under since and now it's a very very similar thing here we have we it was like even without the elitist rubber stamp even without the psychotic social media influencers the psychotic former journalist now performance artist whatever that woman is uh even without the politicians like that was something that was going to haunt us like he was going to become a folk hero online. The communists online were going to be obsessed with him. And I think that

we would have probably seen stuff like this again. And now I'm really, I don't know how at this point, I really don't know how we don't see it again. Well, by the way, this wasn't the first assassination attempt, at least this year. This is the one that was carried out. 2024 is going to be known as the assassination year, or at least when an assassination start, which is really freaky. Or start again, right? Because we went through this cycle. None of us were alive, but our parents were. They lived through a similar memetic contagion that led to assassination after assassination after assassination and not just attempts of major leaders. And now here we have just the, just, it is shocking to me how irresponsible Warren and Ocasio-Cortez are on this issue. You expect it from retarded media people.

You, you at least expect politicians to be terrified for their lives. Like, how do you get up there and be like, yes, that was bad, but let's talk about everything that he believes, which is all justified and good now. It's crazy. Like your lives are on the line. It's not the time to stroke your political ego. No, because who is more hated in this country? You think that America hates CEOs more than it hates politicians or journalists? Like you're fucking, you are in danger. I'm like Whoopi Goldberg in Ghost, okay?

Like you're in danger, girl. Like get out of there. Molly, you're in danger, Molly. Yes, you're fucking, it is coming. And I don't know, I don't know what they're doing. It's really frustrating and I don't want to say frightening, but it's alarming to me. Just to sharpen up that point and make it really clear is when you call for violence or when you excuse or celebrate violence against your tribal enemy, then you paint a target on your own back because you are somebody else's tribal enemy.

Yes. And so if you normalize that, then you normalize, I mean, you're putting yourself in a, in a, in a, um,

in a threatened position. Well, because your justification for it and the justification that is now justification, the other, the other side can use. So if you're saying that's okay, we're doing it because he's evil.

And so I'm going to go kill you then by your rules. We do not agree as a country on who is and is not evil anymore or what those things even are. So if you are normalizing the concept of You don't hate journalists enough, quote unquote. That happens every fucking day. Every day. The enemy

of the people or whatever. There's a reason that journalists were upset about that when he said it, when Trump said it, because it was dehumanizing and alienating. And it, like, I understood, I understood why they were upset about that, even though I felt like it wasn't, it wasn't like he was saying it's okay. I could understand why someone wanted to kill them. He was never saying that. He just happened to be like, they're the enemy of the people, whatever. In the context of that, this is like, what do you, what, how do you think people are going to be seeing you? This is, it's hard for me to understand why they're this, they just maybe think the violence is never going to be hitting the other side. For some reason, they think they can control this. You can't control a meme like

this. This is not the way the internet works. These things are, these are powerful, like, thought constructs that, like, are birthed into the world randomly that are then fed by attention that take on a life of their own outside of all of us. And this is one that is specifically violent, that will be uncontrollable forever and that will take everybody in to hell with it there's there's no controlling it yeah i think that like the reason you see them equivocating is to try to score like political points about health care but like i i wonder how much of this about luigi's actions is even about health care like what i see a lot of in him is just like,

uh, like, especially in that take about Japan is just like a desire for like purpose. Like he seems to be like really like, and that's where I see a lot of myself in him. Like he seems to be like to quote a meme, like the sensitive young man,

like he is that, that person. Um, he, you know, had a desire to like make a difference. That desire just got co-opted into like a bloodl had a desire to like make a difference that desire just got co-opted into like a bloodlust and wanting to take out a ceo and so i you know i think this isn't

some dude who just like went off the rails because of health care i think there's you know so many other factors there this is a guy who didn't want to live in a society of online gambling and uber eats and just a soulless existence with like no human connection. Um, and you know, while this, while it was ostensibly linked to healthcare, um, I think there's just like a deeper phenomenon here of just so many young men like his age, who just feel like they don't have a purpose and like, don't know what to do in life. Yeah, you're right. You see people getting at pieces of this. There was the story about the fact that he was an incel and it's i didn't see that story oh really oh yeah it was a whole they it's like they brought in doctors to talk about what happens when men can't

have sex or be intimate was he an incel though like well he said we have claims from around him from people around him that his pain was so debilitating that he couldn't have sex yeah that's not the same as being an incel though. It is the same actually. So in the sense of like, I cannot experience physical intimacy with someone and that drives someone insane. And that was their argument. And I think it's like, they're close. And I think it's more what you're saying. It's like, there's this atomization of people that's happened. This is why before even we learned about him, it was already super evocative. And now it's just a runaway train because he wasn't this person who you couldn't relate to.

Everything that happened before the break where you now see pictures of him and he seems crazy. And I think we'll learn more about him. I don't actually know what the state of his mental health is right now. I suspect not good. We'll see. of his mental health is right now i suspect not good we'll see um but everything before he vanished was like a thoughtful person who was hitting on things that were understandable none of this shit um and that scared me a little bit it's like you can see how easily you yourself can fall

and these ideas can take over you have to listen to the rhetoric eventually my feeling listening to these people talk is they actually want to see me die okay like kasan piker or whatever obviously the middle-aged woman we talked about last week for too long um you have akazio and warren you have journalists There was a clip of one of these people on a show with what's his name? The British guy, Piers Morgan, Piers Morgan. And we're all focused on the person who was like,

this sparked joy in my life or whatever. It was much more shocking to watch the other dude on the panel. He was one of the lefties. I forget his name uh he used to be on cnn i believe until he said something fucked up about palestine got fired so medhi hassan no no no it was not him but um he just kind of moved right on after hearing something that was like truly shocking and worse it wasn't just a, it was not what the person had said. It was not a, yeah, it was bad, but it was straight up.

This made me feel joy. And he just brushed it off, right? Like I see that. And I think these people do actually want us to die. And so the question now is, well, what is the rational way to navigate a country like that? What is the rational way to navigate an information environment like that? Like social media, there are no more gatekeepers. It's the wild west. Should we be sitting here being these good guys, turn the other cheek, pretend it's not happening? I think some people pretend it's not happening or people don't mean it. I think some just ignore it. Um, do you try and be the, like, you see this like center,

right? I'm better than you thing, which is like violence is never justified. And we should talk about that relentlessly. Or do you give it back? Which is what I want to do. And I don't want to be the person that does that. I don't want to become the person who started this. And I see that like dark mirror there, but, but that's what I want. That's, I want to fight back. I don't want to sit here and just be fucking gunned down by a lunatic and have people like that laugh about it. I don't know. How do you think about this?

If it's, if you're saying like, it's rational to, to, to want to extinguish the other side. Well, that's the danger. That's what I'm worried about. Yeah. That's the rational. I mean, yeah. And I think it's like,

it's super dark. And I, I think that we have to not enter this, but I think, how do you, I almost think it's inevitable because yeah, like that's the human instinct to survive. Right.

The human instinct is not to, to, to sit around and do this, engage in this one-sided media discourse that we've had for a century, where the most deranged excesses of the communist left are constantly excused or justified. It's to fight back. It's to want for them what they want for you. And the nature of the internet as such is it's been sort of gate-kept and guarded for a while. That's broken broken. And now I think I don't know how this doesn't evolve into something that's more human, which is much more primal and much more chaotic and much gnarlier and more violent. going to cause them to temper their position. Like if you, if the United, the new United healthcare CEO, all of a sudden goes, okay, we're going to donate this much to charity or something.

They're still going to be like, you're an evil CEO. We want to gun you down in the street. So there's really no position. Like they leave you no position other than to reciprocate. I think you need to believe that though some people mayouse good attributes or values, their actions do actually tell what their actions are and what they believe. And they are evil. They could just very well just be evil. And maybe you don't need to be a bystander because you believe maybe 1% of the values that they have. But no, if they are like really speaking out aggressively over and over again and like maybe not even maybe supporting something as atrocious as this, not putting it down, not putting it off to the side, but actually still giving it light. like consider who who you have in your you know echo chamber and why they're there because it's it's kind of gotten to a point where most of america i believe is like in some sort of like silent supporter like silent echo chamber silent um silent uh ask like room where where they don't

really feel safe to share what they actually believe, but they're kind of just following around. They're kind of just going with the flow because they don't want to disturb anything because it's really disruptive to disturb things. But if you do, then you're evil. And so I think everyone is super, super careful. And there's some sort of bystander culture effect where most people are much more comfortable just sitting back and and not speaking out or being like, no, like, actually, what you just said was entirely evil. And you probably shouldn't have a seat in the house or be like of some sort of real leader in in America or telling anybody anything for More specifically, talking on a podcast, talking on talk shows, whatever you say there does reverberate back into culture. It reverberates back into society and around the dinner table. So, okay, yeah, maybe there's one punchy person

that you really like to listen to, but it might not be right. Maybe you don't need to listen to them. It's kind of getting more... Between other stories we're talking about today, it's becoming more apparent to me that people just... While some like you and us, we go between different sources and we like to find truth and actually piece apart and find something that's morally correct, some people actually just sit back and listen and accept the realities of what some lunatics are telling them. I think you do what you did with your article that we that we published today, presumably. Yeah, I think it's in your inbox. Check your inbox.

Yeah. You know, you just got to like I hate to use a platitude, but like, you know, what's that? Sunlight's the best disinfectant type situation. Just why I believe that sunlight is the best disinfectant. No, but you, but you, you bring it plus, plus like the, you bring the, you bring the heat back and you like, logically you show you humiliate them on, on the, in the discourse. Yeah. I do think humiliation is an interesting word to use here because it was Antonio Garcia Martinez who first I think I saw writing about this in the context of school shootings. And he was like, I've been keyed into the meme of it already. It's something that I've written about and talked about, but he talked about breaking the meme with like a humiliating ritual.

You know, the problem is that these people are seen as heroes to disaffected youth but if it was like a really embarrassing end for them it maybe would end the cycle and i do think like embarrassment and shame is public flogging well public flogging was a related topic that i later popularized some would say uh throughout the internet um no he was talking about actually a pretty gnarly sort of like, his idea was, it was in a private chat, so maybe I shouldn't share it. But it was a different kind of humiliation of these people. And I don't like, but what, how would humiliating them stop them from doing anything?

They're already like pretty low. They're done, but other people are looking on. And what the humiliation of them does is it inverts the story about them that is perpetuating the act which is this um almost they're villainous but they're powerful like it's the it's the the trench coat mafia is um they seem in culture like powerful people and you see it echoed in uh there was a show uh there is a show called um what is the the ryan the ryan murphy horror show yeah american american horror story um i think it's season two the one about the haunted house or season one it's season one season one stonnie ridden yeah they have a they have a story about a school shooter and the school shooter, it's like very Columbine

adjacent. Like he's like all in leather. He's this badass punk rock looking person, but he was this nerd that turned into that. And you see that echoed throughout our whole culture that is perpetuating that idea again and again and again and again. And that for someone who has no power is a story that you can access to feel powerful. And so the way that you shatter that story is by inverting it and making something shameful out of it and embarrassing out of it. Like the association of it would make you not want to be that person. Like, you know, the idea, this is where I go back to my public flogging idea of the activists. It's like, well, if their pants are around their legs and they're getting spanked and they're like, you're peeing themselves and crying,

that's not heroic looking anymore. And nobody wants to associate themselves with that. And maybe it, maybe it breaks it down. Um, maybe it doesn't. I say it's worth trying. I think I'd say it's worth giving it a shot. Powerful imagery. Yeah. Yeah. You have to highly shareable memes. Yeah. You have to compete. You can, I don't, you can't stop. You can't control a meme. You can introduce new memes into the discourse and maybe they shatter the old one or they push it back or something. It's really, I don't know, I sort of think that we're in this new space of the way the world works like we lack language for a lot of this stuff it's so new and we're living inside of it that i think we don't quite know how to operate inside of it but probably the stuff that we're talking about now will seem really primitive and obvious in like 25 years they're like oh they have this problem going on and then they had to do x y and z to control it i hope otherwise i mean maybe we just maybe society ends We should get to the Polymarket read. We've been going off for a long time.

Polymarket, thank you for paying us to do this work. Truly, it means a lot. As the details of Luigi Mangione's arrest and possible motive for killing the UnitedHealthcare CEO emerge,

new storylines and rumors are taking the internet by storm. So Polymarket odds currently show a 68% chance that Luigi used psychedelics based on reports from friends who say he explored them as treatment following a surfing injury. Whatever, that's like table stakes at this point.

We've covered it. The more interesting one for me, the odds of Luigi being gay stand at 28%. This has been driven by limited information about his personal relationships and speculation fueled by rumors such as his possible attendance at the heiress tour. I agree that's pretty close to a smoking gun. But the more important thing that Matt and Stuart would never have drafted into this piece here that no one is talking about on Polymark is just the fact that, I mean, he has gay face.

And I don't know. I would like to introduce that evidence into the. He has what? He has gay face. Gay face? Luigi has gay face, I think. What is gay face? I mean, I don't know how to describe gay face. I'm Googling it right now. It's just like you know it

when you see it. Did you guys see a Spotify playlist? It was like Taylor Swift, Brad, Charlie XM. Was that real though? I thought that was fake. It could have been fake. I have no idea. I saw a bunch of memes to that effect. I wasn't sure if he was actually listening to that music. How does the market resolve? Like what is the information on which it resolves?

Like the gay thing, the gay thing. I mean, a problem. I'm trying to find it. We have to, I don't know how it resolves. I would imagine like he,

I don't think prison, they can't test it for it. You know, like fact check is Luigi Mangione guy. I don't know how they're going to resolve it. I mean, I think if you find someone who's had sex with him, you can at least be bi. I wonder if bi

counts. People think he's bi. I think he's bi. I said as soon as his picture was released that this dude is going to set the record for love letters written to him in prison because he's attractive and people love murderers and all that stuff. If he's bi and he's getting letters from girls and guys,

he's got that record easily. He's going to be adored. He's already one of the most, he's bi and he's getting letters from girls and guys he's got that record easily like he's gonna be adored like he's already one of the most like i he's like a universal heart throb already if he is to both sexes that's crazy well i got info on how it resolves it does include bisexual it says this from this market resolved to yes if it is confirmed that he's gay or bi by April 30th, 2025, otherwise resolved to no, the source will be official statements from Mangione, his legal representation, and information released by law enforcement.

However, a consensus of credible reporting may also be used. Interesting. I wouldn't want to bet on this market. It seems like a sketchy resolve rule to me. I'm not convinced that he's the guy that we saw shooting. What does that have a sexuality though. I'll get to it. So I so let me work up to it All right So I know that there are fingerprints now at the scene of the crime and this story evolves every I feel like few hours There's a new piece of evidence and right now the latest one is there there's some evidence linking him to the actual

Place of the crime they say it's these fingerprints on a water bottle or something. I saw that dude standing, the guy who was standing there murdering the CEO, the gunshot guy, like the gunshots happening. Um, before I knew anything about the case, I thought that's a, that's a professional killer. That's someone who has killed before. It was the way he was standing. It was the certainty with the shot. It was the going up again and making sure he was dead. And then I saw that smile and there were those weird other details. So the bullet casings that have the words on them, the monopoly money, that said to me that this is someone who was telling a story, someone who was incredibly intelligent, someone who was like the Joker in a way, who

really wanted us to be talking about this. They were trying to capture our attention. Clearly they have succeeded. That's someone who is sane enough to do that. And then I saw this ranting lunatic in his orange jumpsuit. and i thought that's not the same guy that's just not the dude and the smile also like we were comparing the picture of luigi when he was at his most good looking to luigi uh in that smiling the starbucks picture where you can see his smile and he looks like clean shaven and like, like attractive. Yeah. That was an, you understood that connection. But when you see him now, like this emaciated, hollowed out version of the person he once

was in prison, that does not look like the person with the same joy for life that he had in that Starbucks. And then people say, well, that's because he was caught. Okay. But he wanted to be caught. He was in that McDonald's. He like wanted to be caught. He never got rid of the gun. He sat there with the gun and with his manifesto, like, oops, better take my manifesto to McDonald's wherever I go. Like who does that? Unless you want someone to catch you and read the manifesto. And so I think that we're, it could, I don't know. I'm just not, I'm not saying there that I feel strong. I just think there's a chance they're not the same person. So I'm tracking that. Uh, I don't think the noses look similar. I also noticed, um, and girls know

this when you get your eyebrows done, it takes a while to grow back. Like in, in that one photo of him, I think like in the back of a car or something like that like he had nice eyebrows and then the mugshot like he had a full like almost unibrow like they grew in really fast and it usually takes like 7 to 12 days and that was only a matter of like four and wouldn't you if you were the people in charge of this investigation and this identity was run away, everyone got his name. Now they're all talking about it. They're completely obsessed with this one person. I think you would be glad for that as you were trying to find the real killer. You would not want him to think that he was being pursued. You would want him to think that he was

safe. And so maybe, and now we'll get to the gay part i'm thinking of the movie scream and i'm about to spoil it for anyone who's never seen it before but in scream spoiler alert just like fast forward two minutes if you don't want to hear this there are two killers and it's an extremely homoerotic relationship and you can tell that uh you can tell that stew is in love with billy and that's why he went along with the sociopath. And this person feels like a mentally unwell person who perhaps was in love with the real killer. Maybe.

Maybe. Probably wrong, but if I'm right, I'm going to seem like a fucking genius. And we're going to play this clip again and again and again forever. And if I'm wrong, we're never going to talk about this clip again. I got a tweet that offers an alternative take we were talking about it before recording but let's read it uh it's by christy yamaguchi main my favorite twitter follow um the the reason luigi's capture feels so clumsy and doesn't seem to make sense is that they were

tracking him illegally the whole time now they have to retcon how they were able to find him they're you know like the feds like knew where he was for like illegal reasons right like they know where i am right now probably facial recognition they're tracking my iphone you know gps or whatever so i think that's the case like like it looks really clumsy yeah like planting on these evidence they're like it looks bad just because they couldn't uh they couldn't They're like planting on these evidence. They're like, it looks bad just because they couldn't arrest him earlier. Well, that's the planting evidence thing.

What's his name? Luigi said that he didn't know where. The granola bar and the water bottle thing, I don't believe. He said he didn't know where the money came from, right? He was like, I don't know where this $8,000 cash came from. Yes, but that's actually the last probably one. Lastly, there's a 9% chance the money found on Luigi was planted. Luigi himself addressed this stating, I don't know where any of that money came from. I'm not sure if it was planted.

And also that bag was waterproof. So I don't know about criminal sophistication. That to me, it's 9%. People are like, no, he definitely, the money wasn't, the money wasn't planted. Why would he lie about that? He has a manifesto and he's admitting to the murder. Like, why would he lie about that one random fact? It doesn't make any,

none of these details of this case make sense to me. It's just like weird, bizarre thing after another bizarre thing. Now he's pleading not guilty. It's like, but you wrote a confession. So what are we doing here? I don't get it. We'll see though, right?

So he has a legal defense and there will be a trial. And if the press coverage up to this point is any indication we'll be hearing a lot about it you know like the story i mean here's his side of this his side of the story the story of the decade i think he's gonna say that he was like that he wasn't the killer and now there's some like the killer's still i think we might have the details of this wrong he pleaded he's gonna plead not guilty to something i'm not sure exactly what he's not pleading not guilty to right now it might have to do with some of the charges that were um put on him in pennsylvania um which were clearly just put on him to hold him there and that would have included like a gun charge and maybe the cash charge and maybe that's why he's doing it but i i don't he doesn't seem like someone who's going to lie about anything he certainly didn't lie about the health care executive whatever if the manifesto

is to be believed to be true um i don't know stay tuned i guess moving on uh there was another case which is crazy the probably the main case we would have talked about this week if there hadn't been this concurrently bubbling up on Friday, which is the Daniel Penny case. Molly, take it away. All right. So Daniel Penny was acquitted Monday of homicide in the chokehold death of Jordan Neely, a 30-year-old homeless man with a history of mental illness. Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg said he respected the jury's verdict. But this is also particularly controversial because it was thrown into the race wars really early on, which quickly also obfuscated the case, confusing people and causing more to just avoid it altogether. And it's been interesting to see like in the last couple of days, people speak out and be like, no,

he's a hero. I've been waiting. I've been like sitting on this and have not been speaking out about it. Which, you know, I think is, I don't know. I think it might've been a little bit closer to the bystander kind of culture that I've been thinking about recently. But it's just, I think we keep on finding ourselves in these tangled webs of conflicting narratives and really trying to make it's been hard to find what the truth is and like grasp reality because we're just invoking more distrust in anything that's going around us because there are so many different opinions where we can be confronted with plain evidence. Maybe, maybe, you know, Luigi just gave us plain evidence and we are now trying to talk ourselves out of it because we're, you know, interesting. But it's an interesting thing. And I think altogether, like the case, and I'd be curious for your guys' takes the, the case has kind of evolved where in the beginning I didn't, I didn't,

I didn't pay attention to it, but now that I'm, I'm, you know, faced with, oh, okay. Like it's okay. It's okay to like read into it now. Like I'll, I'll look at it. Um, but I was, I was definitely of the camp avoiding it earlier on. I was obsessed with the story from the very first moment that it was brought before it was brought when he just went, because the moment it went viral, the moment it happened, the story broke before there were charges. And then Alvin Bragg bringing charges, especially crazy, because this is the pro crime. We're not going to charge criminals person who was concurrently trying to manipulate a presidential election by bringing charges against Trump, which he never should have brought. So it's the same exact dude. And he's going after Penny now

for what are very obviously racially motivated reasons. And we know this because we've seen similar cases in New York City. Jordan Williams, for example, who I also defended, who is a black man who defended his girlfriend from a similar guy on the train. He actually stabbed him to death. So much more violent and dramatic than what Penny did with the assistance, by the way, of another black man on the train who, for some reason, we're not talking about him at all. And so, yeah, it really bothered me. I think Alvin Bragg is a racist. I think that this was clearly done because of racism. I think there's a giant racist mob that wanted to see Penny killed or punished because he was a white person, a white man specifically, who was also a military guy, who was also good looking, who also did this thing that we tend

to see as heroic. There was a morally inverted response, which is to go after him. And that kind of stuff drives me crazy. And once the case began, I was really nervous that he was going to become some kind of scapegoat for a sort of justice that was very popular a few years ago. And he was not, that has not stopped. One piece of this story I wanted to introduce for you guys is the BLM co-founder who was outside or even in the court sort of ginning up controversy throughout. We need some black vigilantes. People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud? How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us? Right. I'm tired.

Tired. Threat. Not only did he threaten, he literally threatened Penny's life when Penny left the court. He said, it's a small world, buddy. Like this clear threat of, I'm going to find you and kill you.

Penny's a Navy SEAL though. So like. Penny? Yeah. Oh yeah. No, the guy's not going do anything he's he'll be fine but he's allowed he's allowed to do this in in our current warped sense of how the world should work like that's a man because he's claiming grievance who's allowed to say whatever the fuck he wants to a random person in the street um make whatever threat that he wants and there he did it but he also said um black people should be doing this to white people black people should be fighting back he suggested that black people should be choking out white people and um black people should be choking out crazy white

people everyone should be choking out any crazy person who's threatening your life i agree the racial the like race war agitation here is, well, I guess it's like disturbing and it's unhelpful and you hate it. You want it to stop. You want us to just not think about things that way anymore. And then you realize the message didn't resonate. And actually there weren't riots.

And most black people are looking at this the same way that we're looking at it. And they're like, that's fucking crazy. We don't have to be killing random white people in the street. Two black people helped looking at this the same way that we're looking at it and they're like that's fucking crazy we don't have to be killing random white people in the street two black people helped penny yes uh subdue the guy on the nearly on the train 100 some black woman thanked penny it was all like on camera like thanking him profusely for saving her life or and as much as we don't want to talk about jordan williams and they've really tried to make him not a part

of the narrative everybody is on board there and And I think, you know, it's like black people like white people live in these cities together and they see the violence and they don't want it. None of us want this shit. And so it's just like that style of agitation. I, I, I feel optimistic. Maybe I shouldn't, but I feel like that's on its way out. And we're allowed to call some of this stuff out for what it is. Uh, Hassan, Mehdi Hassan had another comment similar to the BLM guy where I was just like, you're just a racist. Like Mehdi just hates white people. Okay. Like that's, it's very clear that the only reason he wanted Jordan, uh, he, that he wanted, uh, uh wanted Penny in prison

was because he was a white man who killed a black man. It turns out he didn't actually kill him, right? That was another detail. Like it was actually, he was alive when the cops showed up and then they didn't do CPR because he was dirty,

which is like, how is that not the only headline of this entire story? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the parallels to the Mangione story here are like crazy because like after

this verdict came out, you had like people decrying vigilante violence. Rep Summer Lee, I think, said something like there's a history of this against black people or something. On the very same day, some of those same leftists are celebrating the vigilante violence of this guy who goes and kills the healthcare CEO. It's like, do you not see like the blatant hypocrisy there?

I don't think they do. And also it's weird. Cause like, I don't see it as a vigilante at all. Like it wasn't like, Oh, we're going to punish this crazy person in the subway because he's crazy. It was like, he's a threat to the lives of the people here and we better stop this however we can. And then death was an accident that happened that like the death was an accident. The murder was not intentional. It was not the same as someone who hunts a person down with a gun and then shoots him multiple times from the back into the face. And they have to know this. It's like, I know that they know this. They're just these anti, they're like just these anti-social lunatics who want chaos. And they're going to find something to hide behind any chance they have. It's like, there are people,

I think, who just have bloodlust in the world. And that's not something that we tolerate in culture is the expression of bloodlust. We wouldn't have survived as a species, I think, if we had. We're a pro-social species. Because we don't tolerate it, they don't often get a chance to express it. But every now and then, in this moment where someone really deserves it, there is this pro-social function that exists in the group, which is like, this really bad person needs to be stopped. And I think that bloodlust comes in. It's an evolutionary advantage, I think. Okay, we can get rid of the people sometimes when we really have to. And that dehumanization process is part of that. It's either in war, we do this. In these moments, we do this when someone is really, really bad, like a mass murderer who we now need to publicly execute or kick out of the tribe or whatever. And they kind of hack that and hide

underneath it and now express their honest opinion, which is, I mean, they just want to see people die. And they do it wherever they can. This is just one of the stories where they can. The Luigi one specifically. I wonder if Brian Thompson had been black and Jordan Neely had been white, what the reactions would be. I have to imagine they would be almost exactly like reversed. Like, it just goes

to show you how much... Are you talking about, are you being Penny and Neely? Or yes, yes, yes. Yeah. On the subway. Yeah. Yeah, of course. It would have been turned around. Yeah. Or ignored. There was another guy, Alba. Yeah. They have to hire a black CEO now. Oh, United? Yeah. Or ignored. There was another guy, Alba. Yeah. They have to hire a black CEO now. Oh, United? Yeah.

Like think about the optics of that. If that would have happened, it would have been a targeted racial killing. I actually don't think. I don't. I think that we're out of that world. I think that that that like the woke you saw that with the way that, you know, you have these BLM terrorists. I don't think all BLM people are terrorists. Um, I don't think that people who care about BLM as a movement, which I think is very misguided are terrorists. Um, I think this person outside calling for violence is a kind of terrorist and, um, his message is not resonating, you know, like people are not buying what he's selling anymore. That says to me, it's kind of over, you know, he's going to be doing what Jesse Jackson did outside of court or Al Sharpton

rather did outside of courtrooms forever. You know, they're out there like trying to get a crowd and no one really cares. The message doesn't resonate. And then sometimes it just really does. Well, I'm sure we'll get to there again, probably like 10 years from now, there'll be another cycle like this. But for now, I think we're out of the the racist um the racist mob stuff i think again i think maybe not i think we're out of it for now i hope so it was crazy just in general

how much this story got memory hold like as soon as the luigi stuff happened like it this verdict was released and then pretty monumental and then we find out the killer's identity and just how quickly we memory hold this was pretty crazy i wonder if it's because culturally we're all on the same page with neely and penny like we all that's an old idea that we've worked through and kind of hit at every possible angle and you saw i was reading the new york times um a piece on penny and the piece itself was sympathetic to neely and the commenters were not it was almost universal they ignored what the times was saying and and how they were editorializing within what was supposed to be reporting and they just all the most popular ones without, uh, with one exception, um, were pro penny. This had to happen. If this

didn't happen, it would have been an outrage. I was terrified. This wouldn't happen. We have to end the violence on our subways. Like we have to be safe, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like people are on the same page. Whereas this, uh, the, the Luigi thing is it's a new idea. Um, it's class war and we haven't done that before. And it's healthcare and it's all, it's like, we don't have any antibodies to it at all. And so it's just going to be much more, it's going to be much stronger and it's going to kind of captivate culture in a way the other one can. But Penny one also just really resonates because, I mean, I think we all probably go to New York pretty frequently. Like it's, that's a frequent occurrence.

You're on a public transportation that's supposed to be safe. It's like right there near NYU. I went to NYU. I'd take that subway all the time. There's kids taking it. It's just like it's a real thing. Lunatics enter the train and you don't know what to do. And how many chances do you think there are going to

be someone that actually steps up and can subdue the person but i yeah so i think like it's a lot of politics weird politics with trains in new york like people make it a big statement to like jump the turnstiles like that's like some like charging people a fair is like fascist. Yeah. You're aware of this. There was that article. I mean, you haven't seen this.

There was just an article about this where people like they have like jump the turnstile days. And like, it's just a bunch of Antifa people that think they're, they're like LARPing is really poor people who can't afford the fair. They're saying, yeah, it's like this shouldn't exist. Therefore I'm not going to pay. And there is, it's done with self-righteousness. Yeah. It's like, this shouldn't exist. Therefore I'm not going to pay. And there is, it's done

with self-righteousness. Yeah. It's all around the train. I remember, um, you guys know Showtime? Yeah. On the train. Oh wait, no. I thought you meant the channel. I was like, yeah, I know Showtime. I think it's called Showtime. I lived in New York for six years. Uh, and you know, one out of every 10 trains, there's like a group of like black boys that come in with a really loud boom box and they like do like flips and stuff yeah they do flips and shit but you have to like you're like the the feet are like you know you're like you're getting kicked in the face like half the time and you're supposed to like you're supposed to like think it's good you know but everybody is just like, this fucking sucks. I didn't, I don't want this

person dancing really close to my face. And then they go around asking for money afterwards. Right. I think there was a, I think there was a controversy at one point where somebody complained about it. Like some journalist was like the showtime like sucks, you know, and it like became a race war like right away. And away. And I guess my point is to say I think there's a pattern here with trains in New York and weird race war stuff. Yeah, because it's interesting. I think you're right.

It's because the train is a place in New York specifically that everyone comes together, including rich people. People take the subway because it's faster than a cab to go uptown. There's no traffic. You're underground. And so it's the great equalizer and we're all in the same space. And so you do have these moments. I think it's really interesting. Another interesting thing are these giant drones that are hovering over the state of New Jersey

that we do have to talk about before we move on to the pirate idol segment. I will just premise by saying no one was closer to or earlier to the story than my mother who- Can we phone her in? She was very clear. She's like, I don't think you should bring me up at all on the segment

because I think it needs to be taken seriously and no one's gonna, they're gonna think you're joking. For the record, I'm not joking. We're taking you seriously. You were right about the story. I was ignoring it because it sounded so crazy and now it seems like it's, there's actually legs to it. It's been growing and growing as a story. And Brandon, why don't you just tell us what's going on? Okay. There have been large,

mysterious drones reported flying over parts of New Jersey in recent weeks. And they appear to avoid detection by traditional methods such as helicopter and radio. According to a state lawmaker that was briefed on Wednesday by the Department of Homeland Security, Assemblywoman Dawn Fantasia described the drones as up to six feet in diameter and sometimes traveling with their lights switched off. The FBI in a hearing recently says they don't know what they are, but have been investigating it and they've asked residents to share any videos photos or any other information that they have one of the representatives representatives from the fbi said um are we concerned that there are nefarious intentions

that could cause either an actual security or public safety incident there's nothing that is known that would lead me to say that but we just don't know and that's the concerning part of it um somebody from the u.s coast guard uh in new jersey told the associated press that multiple low altitude aircraft were observed in vicinity of one of our vessels near island beach state park that's like where i'm from by the way i'm from thomas river it's next door okay a pentagon spokesperson uh sabrina singh she told reporters on wednesday that our initial assessment here is that these are not drones or activities coming from a foreign country or adversary there's a meme going out around that like the drones are from a iranian mothership drone yeah Yeah. Yeah. Some congressman said that. Yeah. And then there's a boat

outside of New Jersey that's controlled by Iran. Recently. So I think there's some misinformation about the state of emergency. There is no state of emergency, but a New Jersey state senator

has called for a limited state of emergency. That happened on Tuesday surrounding the drones. And so what is this? Like, what are we? We just don't know what they are. We think they're like foreign.

The government said they're not foreign. They're not ours. They don't look like UFOs to me. They're planes. They're mostly planes. You think they're just random planes? I've looked at the photos and it's literally a plane. I don't want to believe they're planes.

They're all planes. Like they're almost 100% of them. So I've probably spent way too long actually just scrolling the timeline. I don't want to believe they're planes. They're all planes. They're almost 100% of them. So I've probably spent way too long actually just scrolling the timeline for a search for drones, New Jersey drones, right? So I saw all the videos, right? And none of them are not planes or they're not CGI. One of them shows, you may have seen a video

or it does appear to be like a spooky looking thing without any lights, but you can see it silhouetted against the, against the background moving like slowly. Um, I found out that that's actually from like a Chinese Tik TOK that like specializes in CGI. Um, another one, you see palm trees, uh, in the area. And one of the community notes is like, this can't be in new jersey because there's no palm trees in new jersey which i think is probably true it's true exactly um you know you see a red light a green light and a large normal color white light and i looked i was looking up like fa regulations and because like planes have to have these lights yeah and planes literally have to have a red blinking light a green blinking light and a orange light or like a white light so what i think this is is like a mass hysteria it's it's absolutely it's

media induced hysteria and you know another uh big media induced hysteria event happened in new jersey as well and that was in 1938 with um the og ufo one yeah orson wells i didn't realize that was jersey yeah so so it's so his story started in new jersey like that's where the alien invasion takes place and um reporting is like the reporting kind of induced the hysteria that there actually wasn't that much hysteria but the reporting exaggerated the amount of hysteria there was which created more hysteria and uh ultimately like i think it's it's been there's been a lot of misinformation about this event it wasn't actually people weren't freaking out it was just the media like freaking out about it

and making a big deal out of nothing so i kind of think that's what's happening here um there's another video of like you see like these lights you know like going all sorts of different directions and that turned out to be like uh like long exposure um and the camera was picking up just satellites in the atmosphere so i have yet to find one of these videos that actually looks spooky well i never thought spooky i i my assumption was they were drones from like maybe foreign intelligence we know that the chinese also what's happening right now is you said shared the link in slack i think yesterday we have the new chinese spy that was called california for flying drones over

military base i believe um in brentwood must be fucking tuesday at this point like they can stop flying drones over our shit it's crazy that they just do that um but i assumed it was that kind of adjacent to that but then i saw that do that um but i assumed it was that kind of adjacent to that but then i saw that one of the sizes someone said it was the the drones were the size of cars or something yeah it's a plane and they were they were they like you can't judge distance very well especially at night like it's just literally literally a plane like well i don't believe this i don. I believe that they're drones. Fair enough. People are saying that they fly like right above.

I'm telling you all the stuff that I'm believing from the internet because I want to believe it. Yeah. I want to believe that they're drones. I mean, it's so. And we're being fed lies and no one's telling us the truth. Well, tell us what you're seeing. Why is it so conservative? I mean, tell us.

You've had your chance. Molly, tell us what you're seeing. Yeah, what are had your chance. Molly, tell us what you're seeing. Sorry. So what I'm seeing out there, this is insane, guys. You would not believe it. On Twitter, right? This is truly insane.

They are like, they're huge. They're the size of SUVs. They look like drones. Yeah, I saw the SUV one. They look like military grade drones, which also, by the way are very expensive so it can't be like some hobbyists like these can range anywhere from

like you know like 500k to like 3 million some like really expensive military ones are like up in like 400 million which is crazy but they look they look like it and the videos that i see like they're just hovering there and then they just kind of glide away and it's not like a plane that's one direction but they just move around and they're just hovering in all these different places placed like pretty close to each other um and i want to know what they are i mean yeah maybe i haven't seen those there is one really hilarious thing that i keep seeing going around i don't know if you guys have seen it but it's like do i have it it's a screenshot it's like the guy's saying finally we have the first clear picture of a drone i don't have it and it's like it's actually a it's the funniest

thing because it's this pixelated picture that is of a screen So it's like somebody taking a picture of a screen, first off. It's not clear at all. Is it the orb one? Yeah. Yeah, the orb one. It's literally like you can see the size of the pixels. It has like a protective barrier around it. This isn't clear at all.

And yeah, I think, I don't know. Has Rogan spoken out? I know he loves UAPs. I look, so whenever there's a UAP thing, I go to mcwest and everybody hates mcwest but he's like the debunker of um of ufo videos and he is a specialist in optics and cameras and i think that actually gives you a really good background for understanding because like most of these things are like artifacts of a particular type of camera

or the way that optics work and um yeah i would just encourage anytime a hysteria like this goes around just check out mcquest and okay what do you think started the text chain in new jersey i think i think it just started it was local outlets because when i looked into this like a week ago and it was all just local like yeah a fox affiliate in some part of new jersey was like i heard reports of this thing and and now like josh holly and marjorie taylor green are you know like i feel like they're they're doing like political points you know they're like they're like they're like drag queens i really see them that way yeah it's all theater and then they they're like we're gonna

have a hearing josh is the one that just did the where he dragged the airplane executives to talk about how uncomfortable their seats were and shit like this he's like do you know that everybody hates airplanes because he would go viral on Twitter. Yeah. He's so stupid. Here's him talking about, well, sorry. Look, that's the drone for Holly. Holly is talking about this drone. It's got a fucking red light right next to it.

It's a goddamn airplane. I don't see a red light. It's an airplane going away from the camera. So Brandon, if they are just planes, why do none of the government in the area know what they are or where they came from? Does that still, could it still be a i don't i don't know what their communication strategy is but they're they're they're planes and why is this red is so conservative coded to me

i don't know ufos are conservative coded and for two reasons one is national defense which is classically conservative coded not new conservative coded and then two is you're not supposed to talk about it culture and that's like that was right-wing thought up until five minutes ago and so that's how i think ufos became you saw all these stories that were like caring about ufos is right-wing and it's like let's make fun of those people but also it's slightly true now because if you're on the side of culture that is subcultural which is what we're conservative thought was ufos become a kind of um like a metaphor for for for that for some people and i think that you were able to project things about the government exactly and censorship you were able to to um message those things through that as an artifact i don't think that's what's happening now and i also don't think

most people are thinking aliens i think mostly what was happening in Jersey was people were like, yeah, Chinese, there are foreign people flying drones over our military bases. We should look into it. You should talk to your mom. I don't want to, I don't want to anger Kathy.

Cause I know that that could be disastrous for me. Um, career wise, but it's too late for that. Sorry, Kathy. I believe you a strongly worded letter. Um,

okay. Well, that's worded letter. Okay. Well, that's that for now. I have a feeling we'll be revisiting the drone story next week. I don't think Brandon is right. By the way, the FAA had, like, he stepped down. So he's out. Because of this? Let's say.

Who knows? FAA. I love the concept of let's just say. Steps down. Let's just say. Don't know concept of let's just say let's just say don't know but let's say federal aviation administration to resign following Trump pick so he's a lot

no this is unrelated I think but maybe you're right well that's enough of that it's time to move on to Pirate Idol. And we are back to the greatest show on the internet. It's Pirate Idol.

We've got Jesse returning. We've got Patrick returning. Molly's actually not in the competition right now, but I should note she is also in Pirate Idol. She just happens to be in LA. And so she joined us in the studio. Why not? As we discussed earlier in the episode.

We had a lot to cover here. We have two great topics for Idol this week that I actually, they're like regular topics for me. I want to talk about both. We're going to start with Patrick. Kick it off. We need to talk about Canadian statehood. There's a lot going on.

Tell us, tell us what's happening. It's the most important issue of our time and the biggest threat to the Pyrewire's business model. You guys are going to have to get rid of your make the moon the 51st state and replace it with Canada. So basically, last month, Trump threatened to impose a blanket 25% tariff on all products from Canada and Mexico unless the countries took action to curb the flow of drugs and, I guess, unauthorized migrants or whatever you want to call it. Honestly, not kind of a real issue from Canada. I look at the numbers. I think the number of fentanyl, the amount of fentanyl coming from Mexico is like a thousand

times more or whatever. The whole thing is very funny, so it doesn't matter. And then when they grabbed dinner at Mar-a-Lago, Trudeau and Trump, he apparently joked that if Trudeau can't afford the tariffs, then perhaps Canada should become the 51st state. And then Trump this past week doubled down on truth social, calling him Governor Justin Trudeau of the great state of Canada. So I think in many ways, this is kind of a replay what happened during his first term. So there was like a year long trade war, which ended up in, I think, Mexico, Canada, and the US making a deal and the sanctions went away or the tariffs went away.

I think what's different now is the entire kind of Canadian political landscape has done a 180. So like back then, there was really no serious conservative political opposition. Now they have the Apple guy, the guy that was a meme, and now they're like extraordinarily successful. That's what I'm just going to call him from now on the apple guy um and then it was powerful i agree um and then uh they ran polls and uh trump is now more popular than trudeau apparently so trudeau has a 23 approval rating by canadians and trump a 26 percent approval rating, which is kind

of insane. And then they also did a poll after his comments and 13 percent of Canadians, 21 percent of conservative Canadians want to become the 51st state. So this is I. My first thought on this story was like, well, it's a joke. Back when they go to Mar-a-Lago, the 51st state comment, he was very sort of, hey, if you don't like it, become a state. Everyone had a good laugh. And then he made that comment about Trudeau retaliated on the trade stuff. He made some comments. I think that's the real missing piece of the story is that he sort of clapped back about tariffs. I think, who knows, maybe necessarily. I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Trump hears this and a little after midnight releases that statement,

that post on Truth Social about him being the governor of Canada. And that was the first time where I thought like, I thought it was a joke, but I'm not entirely sure now where this is going. And neither is, it seems, the Canadian government. The very next day, I saw this woman who I think runs the Green Party in Canada expressing that she felt threatened by the statements. And I did a little digging. I want to see how relevant she was. It turns out, I think there are 22,000 people in her party. So the woman did not speak for Canada. And this is when I started wondering like, how many Canadians actually do want this? One thing that's very important that we should, if we can find a chart of this, we should pull it up. There's a really interesting

population density map of the state of Canada. And you'll notice that all of the population of Canada is right on the border of America. They yearn. They yearn to be American. They are literally as close to America as they can be. They yearn to be American. They are literally as close to America as they can be without being American. In fact, many of them are further south than people in like Seattle and whatnot, because the Great Lakes region is, or at least the Canadian territory in the Great Lakes region is further south than like, what is it, than Seattle or what's the Antifa one? Portland. So like we do like there are plenty of canadians that are already kind of in our territory i think i don't know i i'm open to canadian statehood what do you

guys what do you make of this one i don't have an opinion it seems funny niagara falls is that canadian i think it's actually nicer on their side. The view is nicer on their side. The view is nicer on their side. The reason it's trashy is because we see their bullshit. We see their little tinsel town, and our side is a national park, so they get the beautiful view. Their side is being subsidized by the U.S. government, so that's why it's so much nicer. That's true. Good point. I mean, their entire country is being subsidized by the U.S. government. The entire idea of Canada is a farce, and I'm not just saying this to be a jokester now like i actually really

mean it they're not defending themselves they don't have a military they're using to defend their border what's their concept of like a small population that's like really peaceful and cares a lot about like in like they're always talking about in in like in uh what is it uh land acknowledgments acknowledgments to the indigenous people, Trudeau famously doing the, like, it was like two XL LGBTQ plus whatever, like pride month.

Like that is a populace that could only exist if it were being treated like an unruly teenager living in someone's backyard. That's not, if America wasn't there, they would just be invaded and they would no longer exist. They're already basically in American territory. All of their shit is basically ours. We just allow them the delusion of living on their own. And I think it's just probably, I started really thinking about it this week. And the more I started thinking about it, the more I thought like, they're not going to be a country forever. That's, that does not make any sense. Long-term. I mean, I think 500 years from now, there's no way they're not a state. So it's really

just a question of when do we start that process? I think we can be nice about it, but probably sooner than later. We'll be good. I think it would be great for America's energy dependability because, okay, so I have like all these stats about it but 60 of u.s crude oil imports are from canada 85 of u.s electricity imports are from canada as well canada is also the largest foreign supplier of steel aluminum uranium to the u.s and has 34 critical minerals and metals that the pentagon is eager for and investing and investing for for national security. About a third of Canada's trade to the U.S. is energy. And let's see, nearly $3.6 billion Canadian dollars worth of goods and services

cross the border each day. So it would be great for us as we continue to go down this AI rabbit hole and all these other kinds of things to fortify the U.S. If we just buy it and, well, not buy it, let's just, let's just take it. But let's peacefully, let's peacefully transfer it back to us. It's time for Canadians to come home. That is, that's how we're framing this. Canada is actually a solution for rare earth materials processing since, since they all live really close to the US.

Oh, you can do it like the tundra or something. Yeah. If we take over Canada, we can do all the dirty materials processing since they all live really close to the US. Oh, you can do it like the tundra or something. Yeah. If we take over Canada, we can do all the dirty materials processing like near the Arctic Circle where nobody cares. We could technically do that in Alaska now and we're just not doing it. So I wonder if there's something else kind of prohibiting us there. Like we have- Just the regulations, the US regulations. Oh, just the US EPA. Well, that's not... So the other thing, if we actually... What, Patrick, did you say the percentage

was of a conservative Canadians who want us citizenship? 21%. The number's going up. All right. I think it's, it's inching up. I think that the main thing from what I can read of the discord, the main reason Canadians don't want it is just healthcare. They like their healthcare.

And I think probably a lot of people feel this way. I think this is like the Greenland thing to the European thing. It's like the one thing they just can't really abide by is just the concept of our health care system. And to that, I say I'm willing to switch up our health care system at this point. Fuck it. Like I'm over it. I don't think it's great. What did he say? He he agreed to the proposed annexation on the condition that we adopt to Canadian health cares or the Canadian health care system. I am there. I'm in. I'm completely in Greenland, Canada, and we switch up our health care system.

I don't like the idea of a single payer system. I do like the idea. I'm open to doing I'm open to doing I'm open to doing like a national option for people who want it. And then you can go and you can buy something better if you want it provided now i love that we're at the bargaining table see this is process this is how it should work like we're getting canada we're getting greenland and now i'm negotiating with universal health care and uh so bernie sanders here's what i want from you we have to ban the depiction of morbidly obese people in target marketing materials like that can no longer be celebrated so we can no longer be celebrating. You don't like this idea? You like them? Or is it like a... I think it's great.

Yeah. So I'm fine approaching the world of healthcare in some sense. And this is a much longer conversation. It'll be a whole other pot, I think. But we have to rethink the way that we are approaching health as a nation, like culturally and things like this. So a lot to discuss there. I think the Canadians would, and I mean this really, they don't want to be stuck in the frozen wasteland of Canada. They have two good cities and then whatever's happening in the French part, no one really knows or cares. They want to be able to go to LA. They want to be able to go to New York and work or work in San Francisco. And like, we want that too. They're already basically Americans. They're culturally almost that they have funny words, but like they're American, you know, people in Boston have funny words.

They're American. They're annoying, but they're American. We can make this work. I think we can make it work. They also bring a lot of great talent to the U S yes. Very talented. Justin Bieber. Beth Jesus. Neve Campbell. Drake. Drake. True. Is Shemoth Canadian? He feels Canadian. Yeah. I think he like affects a Canadian accent, but he's actually

just American. I'll ask him later. I'll DM. I, but I'm, yeah, I am. I'm, I think that like we need to not, we make fun of, we joke with Canada, but I think it's the reason I joke mostly is because it makes women like that Green Party president or whatever she is, the leader of it, so angry. That's the kind of person I like to pester. But I love the Canadians. I love Canada.

I think it's a beautiful country. Up in Vancouver, we do an event for Founders Fund up in the Sonora Sound. It's called the Desolation Sound. There's an island called Sonora up there. Stunning, beautiful, like... It's a rainforest up there. Yeah, all of that's rainforest. Yeah, it's the same as down in New Zealand.

There's a rainforest. It's a similar biome. And it's interesting because when you're there, they look the same. I've hiked through uh the milford track they call it around the milford sound anyway canadian canadian states last thoughts on this before we move on to our our next topic i think the perfect sign of the vibe shift is like how little freak out there was to this like tweet from trump like remember when he was like talking about buying the

greenland thing just how much like legacy media heads exploded. Like, no, you can't do that, Trump. Like a long time ago. Yeah. In 26. Yeah. Yeah. And then now it's like that outrage was like so muted. And granted, there was a lot of other things going on in the news.

They're not trying to like destroy him psychologically anymore. Yes. Like in 2016, they were trying to fucking like make him kill himself. Yeah. They like literally wanted Trump to kill himself. They were bullying him. Yeah. They were bullying him.

You know, and now I think like he he's like way more powerful and it's not happening. Well, also the, yes, I agree with that. Like they were sort of in response kind of broken by him. Yeah. But the Greenland thing was also serious. And the Canadian thing is not, I don't fit. I mean, I could be wrong, you know, I might be wrong maybe, but it doesn't seem serious to me. The Greenland thing is it was an actual proposal yeah he actually attempted it i actually i know some of the guys who were working on that with him and what they said was the leak killed the deal they were making progress and they felt there was a chance that greenland was going to be a territory of the united states and once it leaked and the whole world freaked out and the Denmark, like population,

the, the citizens of Denmark got involved and when they were mad and there was an uproar there, it killed the deal. Uh, but I think that was actually possible. And that's why people really freaked out and where the Canadian, Canadian states did not seem possible. But now the more that I like think about it and joke about it, I think it's actually not only is it possible, I think it is inevitable. Maybe not truly, maybe not over the next couple of years, but I think long-term that's not a country. So it's just like, let's just call a spade a spade. That's it's like, it's going to be a part of the greater American empire. How do we fit it on our map or on our flag? Well, people are talking about that as well. I don't even know that we need new States. They can be a territory and we can put

their popular population is already on the border of America. They can just be part of the other States. They'd like all of, what is it? Toronto can be like, I don't know what is up there. Is it, are they near like Ohio or Michigan or something like just redraw that state to include that? And then the rest of it, just where the population is. You just carve it out. And it's like, you don't have to add new senators done case closed, moving on. You can keep your healthcare. Like maybe we'll even let them change up their gun laws. We're now in charge of their immigration And it's like, you know, you have to add new senators. Done. Case closed. Moving on. You can keep your health care. Like, maybe we'll even let them change up their gun laws. We're now in charge of their immigration because they're fucking insane about immigration.

And we haven't been so good either. Yeah, we're better. And they've had a good pivot, too. So Trudeau is like cracking down on it now. Now, after he's let in so many people. But now he's like put a freeze on you. Yeah, well, he has to because they have like a third of their country is not born in canada i'm not even exaggerating it's an insane number of people but do you understand the difference if of canadian perspective on immigration is like do you understand how hard they had to work for those numbers there is no

border people are just walking to america canada they have to fly there so they're like they're like bringing flights in like they're importing it like it's like they're a fancy form of coffee or something they're like we need that over here i don't understand that i've never gotten it but um i mean that's just like it's a very specific kind of white person you know we all know them we should do we should do they come from we should do a greenland episode by the way yeah i agree i think it's a travesty that Denmark owns Greenland. Like that's so random. Denmark. Yeah. It's a holdover from a different time. Yeah. Anyways, a hundred years ago or whatever, but we're moving on to, uh, the note that I have

here is Antifa chick wants police, but I think it is actually, I think the actual story has to do with, uh, a defund activist whound activist who got robbed, which is a heartwarming story just in time for Christmas. Jessie, take it away. Yeah, I think you summed it up perfectly. But to give slightly more intel on it. So there was a San Francisco woman. Her name is Darcy Bell.

She went viral on X This Week. And it's because she turned to the platform seeking assistance because her rented U-Haul truck had all her belongings in it was stolen. Now, someone might say, why is this going viral? All we hear about is crime in San Francisco. Well, it just so happens our girl Darcy is a defund the police advocate and a pretty well-known one, actually. But I got to say, like, to her credit, she did stay strong in her convictions and she did not call the police. She went to X. She called U-Call and was aghast that U convictions and she did not call the police. She went to X, she called U-Call and was aghast that U-Haul pointed her to the police. So clearly this was

not the answer that she wanted. And as you can imagine, X had a field day with the story, lots of comments of the variation of why didn't you call a social worker for help? My favorite comment, maybe a social worker can help her adjust to life without things and on and on. But like I said, she stayed really strong in her convictions. She has posted nothing to indicate remorse for her previous defund the police rhetoric. She is now calling this the U-Haul Chronicles. And this is on wall. So this is like breaking news still. So last night she posted the truck has been found with a poll asking who found it. The options were the boys in blue, Twitter vigilantes, St. Christopher, U-Haul bounty hunters. And Twitter vigilantes is in the lead at 45%. She will not tell us. So this is, I think she's going to milk this publicity it's going to keep going and then today she posted an update saying would you believe it if i told you u-haul

pays a revolving band of bounty hunters to search for their stolen bands so she's like missing the plot here she sees nothing wrong uh obviously when i saw the story my reaction was lols like this lady deserves to be trolled, X do your thing. And yeah, she does not see anything wrong in her previous ways. I do agree though, that the idea of U-Haul paying a roving band of bounty hunters is very interesting. We should do a story on that if that's true and not just the invention of a deranged leftist barista from San Francisco. Well, she says too that you don't know this

when you sign the paperwork. I don't know that you would be looking for that when you sign the paperwork, but that could also be an interesting thing to look into. And you know, she's sitting there thinking like, that sounds a little too violent for me. I wouldn't have signed the paperwork had I known that they would also go out

and find my stuff if it was stolen. This is the kind of person who feels vaguely suicidal to me. Do you know? Like, this is like someone who just wants to die like that's not a person who wants to live like like that's just what's happening here and we're all sitting here trying to rationalize it or justify it and um i think that's because they had so much power in 2020 remember it's like you couldn't even talk about the fact that rioting was happening and seemed to you where you were sitting quite bad you know you get

attacked for that and that's because these people were stupidly given jobs in media and controlled culture for a minute but that's over and now we can just look at them for what they are which is um you know people who have some kind of mental illness that should be pitied certainly their kids should be pitied she has has children. But I hope. She didn't call out her children on the post. So in addition to her not at all acknowledging that her defund the police is the wrong message, she was like, how dare people be rooting for my children's things to be stolen before Christmas. Right. Which kind of a fair point.

But again, she's just like she will see anything but the obvious of course go ahead patrick i kind of admire it i mean when i when i think of this woman i think of the japanese soldiers after world war ii who were still fighting in the jungles of the asian pacific in the 70s like you know they they have a sense of honor they refuse to to amend it's it's like the people who are still wearing masks in 2024 uh you know yeah she's good and she really go ahead jesse picture of her was with her mask so she oh she was masked up i didn't even see that and she does that she has those fucked up i didn't see that either yeah she has those those like those those fucked up communist bangs you know i'm talking about those like

yeah they're super short they look like almost teeth like oh do you know yeah like that girl in that what's that movie about the um it's a south african movie about is it el chapi or something the the it's like a robot or or is it an alien el chapi it. It's by Neil Blomkamp or something. Yeah, De Antwoord. Also great new documentary. But she had those bangs in that movie. I think that's where those bangs come from. Yeah.

I thought you were going to do a Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reference there with the bangs. I don't know if that's about... I mean, I could make it, but I don't know that my audience is ready for that. Maybe. We'll come back to it ronnie you were about to say something i was gonna say like we we talked about feeling sympathy for this woman and i do i because i think we all sort of like deal with our politics in the abstract like i for example like i would i think a lot of people should be deported would i like to be the person who goes up to a

family from venezuela and says you have to go back? No. So like I do. And that's not the same as the scenario, but I do sort of feel for her, at least in the slightest bit. Nevertheless, though, I do show hope she sees the error in her ways and realizes that we should not defund the police. But I do sort of feel for her, if ever so slightly well spoiler alert she will not figure that out if she will not invent her ways we have people there's the famous case in oakland of um there was the woman who was killed actually and she was a defund activist this happened a couple years ago even before the vibe shift uh she was uh murdered and that's i the stealing thing is easier for me to be like you know what is that that simpsons kid who's like, Hey, that, you know, like that's like that kind of energy murder is not for me. And even, I don't think that she should be killed just because she was this dumb white Baker who thought that, you know, she wanted to help this made up group. This anyway, I don't think she should die. I don't think any of these people should die. Um, like genuinely and fully and

completely actually not the way that, you know, Ocasioez says it like i actually don't think that i don't want to see this kind of violence um but the internet did and they went in hard and were like you deserve this but then her friends would not work with the police to prosecute the person responsible and it was on grounds that they felt that she wouldn't have wanted that. And that's where I do go back to the suicidal thing. The whole thing, it does feel as if maybe the Western world has this kind of kill switch. And a lot of these people just, they don't want to live and they certainly don't want us to live. I mean, that's been established, but I think they don't even want themselves to live. And that's maybe the more important thing. That's where this is. That's what's driving all this like anti,

it's not even anti-Western. It's like, it's anti even anti-Western. It's anti-self-interested. It's anti-existence. They don't want to be here. And we see that in everything from the way they talk about their kids. Do you know what the hygiene hypothesis is? No, what is that? It's a medical term. It's like the whole thing of kids who grow up in clean environments end up having more problems.

I'm very much a victim of this. I think that applies socially too. When you grow up in a very rich, prosperous country with very few problems, you just kind of come up with your own problems, both mentally and physically and environmentally and everything else. And I think so many of these people, not to say that they've all had easy lives. I'm sure some of them grew up in hardship and poverty and things like that. But like in a world with no obvious problems for them to solve or things for them to work on, they've just kind of resorted to the same perpetual loop of social justice. Even the previous thing we're talking about with Trudeau, it's the same thing. Like his way of

clapping back to Trump was giving a speech about how Kamala Harris losing was an attack on female progress. They just can't get out of their loops. Wait, but on that, I'm so glad you raised it. I'm so glad you raised that clip where he starts talking about feminism. I saw this today, this morning. So I think this happened. Trudeau. Trudeau, the prime minister of Canada, or as Trump would say, the governor of the great state of Canada, is talking about the issue of feminism. And he brings up the fact that Kamala Harris, the second, he's saying, you know, we thought we made such progress. But then Kamala Harris, you know, the second female candidate for presidency loses the election.

No, it shouldn't be that way. It wasn't supposed to be that way. We were supposed to be on a steady, if difficult sometimes, march towards progress. And yet, just a few weeks ago, the United States voted for a second time to not elect its first woman president. Everywhere, women's rights and women's progress is under attack, overtly and subtly. But I want you to know that I am and always will be a proud feminist. You will always have an ally in me and in my government. And I thought I'm not even mad about this stupid idea that someone should be elected because of their sex. Let's table that for a second and focus on the

fact that he used the word we. He is talking about the United States of America and he used the word we. Okay. This man hates America, but like all leftists, he hates America. Like all American leftists, he sees himself as American. He knows that he's American. I think at that point, I saw that video and I thought, actually, no one thinks they're American citizens more than Canadians. On some level, they all understand it's true and inevitable. And I think that Canadian statehood is coming. And this is why it was like one more data point where I was like, holy shit, this has legs in a way I did not realize it had legs. Where he and Trump already made a backroom deal and he let it slip. He accidentally said we.

It's possible. The other funny thing is people think that he's the son of Fidel Castro, a Cuban. Let's go back to Cuba for a second. Okay. Yeah, let's go back. That's another part of the world that should simply be American. Cuba's going to be a state. That's my ultimate, my big my you know my vision is cuba a territory or not it's not right no it's a communist country but why aren't we allowed to go because we've been embargoed for so long but we're getting rid of that we're we're we're taking that back we were on the path to statehood before the communists took over

and um we're gonna it's like it's a small the the cubans in miami And we're going to, it's like, it's a small, the Cubans in Miami want it. I want it. It tactically makes a lot of sense. I think there's sugar there probably. I mean, I can make some kind of, give me a week and I'll think of a rational reason for it. But mostly I just think that it just feels correct to have Cuba, to have Canada,

to have Greenland, to have Moon. And then, I mean, and then I think we open it up. What you could do is you could... Accept applications? Well, yes, like franchising. Yeah. We have American Samoa too, don't we?

Yeah, but that's a territory. Yeah, we have American Samoa. We have the Mariana Islands or something. We could probably extend into the Southeast Asian. We're there and people just forgetagia. We're there. And people just forget about it. We're out there. People just forget that we have a claim out there.

I was thinking about that for... Philippines we had and then gave up for some reason. Yeah. Don't know why we did that. There was a movement to get rid of it. Yeah, I don't think they wanted it. I think the next one is going to be people are going to try this is what you're going to see over the next few years people are going to come for hawaii

they're going to try and they want us to lose hawaii as a state and it's like we got to go in the other the absolute other direction we should not be losing states or territories we should be acquiring and i think there's a peaceful way to do it and i think trudeau laid it down for us i think there probably was a backroom deal because i want to believe that and um and maybe it was about like listen trump we'll do this but you're not going to reveal what you know to be true about my father's real identity as a conspiracy theory by the way editor's note or legal note he does look so much like him though but fidelidel Castro's son looks so much like him. The resemblance is like, especially him around that age.

You're talking. Yes. Yes, I am. Do you guys know? I mean, are you familiar with the conspiracy theory? Does anyone know? Is it just that they look alike? And that's it. No, it's that his mother had an affair with Fidel. But like what evidence is there to support that? I don't have much. That they look alike?

It was identical. That they look alike. It was identical. There's no evidence. It literally just they look alike, I think. Right? I think that, no, there is more than that. I've seen people go, there are people who are, I'm not like a, I don't focus a lot on Trudeau. I'm a great fan of his blackface arc. Not in terms of I think blackface is right.

his blackface arc. Not in terms of I think blackface is right, just in terms of like what that gave to the culture. The fact that he is the Prime Minister of Canada at the height of BLM was like on, he was taken out of the closet as an enthusiast to blackface.

You know, I love that, but that's kind of the height of what I know of that and the fact that he said these stupid things this week is pretty much what I know about him. There was a fun, no, we don't have to get into Trudeau. We're at the end of what I know. That and the fact that he said these stupid things this week is pretty much what I know about him. There was a fun. No, we don't have to get into Trudeau. We're at the end of this episode. When is like, why is he president for so long?

Like when is their elections? Like it seems like he's been president for 10 years. I think he's coming up on the end. This is next year. Yeah, this is his goodbye tour. And it's going to be. That cool guy, the apple eater. It's going to be the apple guy.

Yeah. Who is. He's cool. I like him. I yeah who is he's cool not he's i like him i don't think he's gonna be a friend of um i think he'll be a friend of ours insofar as we're friendly to him but i saw him talking about tariffs before trudeau embarrassed him and his nation this week uh embarrassed himself and his nation this week apple guy was talking about it in terms of like look trump is going to do whatever is best for the united states and that's what we should do as well and it was a very hardened kind of approach to it. It wasn't like, oh, I love that Trump. He

makes a lot of good points. It was very just realistic about the end of globalism and the rise of nationalism and how you interact as nation states in a world of increasing nationalist sentiment. I've heard similar things from Macron, who I have much more people compare him to Trudeau because I think they're both like attractive younger guys or i mix them up all the time yeah there is something similar about the way they look but uh mccrone's not that mccrone's i think a much more interesting and commanding politician and a real a leader of a real country um with a real history that has real importance in the world and uh he has said similar things about Trump and has approached Trump, I think, in a similar way. And I think that is the future. And if this guy wins,

which I hope for the sake of Canadians, he will. I don't know that that will bring us closer to Canadian statehood. I think that actually will bring us further apart because he'll be more competent and he'll be more nationalist and he'll be more self-interested for his nation. He'll be a better leader. And he won't like debank the truckers though. He won't debank the truckers. I think we'll have very friendly terms. Uh, and you know, that border will soften and we'll become, you know, de facto the same country again, which I guess we kind of still are. It's just, I don't know. I do like the idea of people. I mean, it's been happening steadily over the last 20 years, right? Like whenever you apply

for like global entry or pre-check, there's like that other option called Nexus or whatever, which is basically Canadian US pre-check where you can just drive across the border. Like I think it has been slowly opening up more and more over the last like 10, 15 years. Yeah. And realistically, I think that is how, you know, all joking aside, we do become the same country is just this gradual breakdown of differences until people actually forget that they're not even the same country. And I think we should do that. I think that I think the Canadians should absolutely, it's, it feels weird to me that Canadians can't just come here and work. For example, they are like, you talk to a Canadian and it's like, this is, we same thing. You could just it's that we're culturally we are exactly the same.

It should that border should not exist. That's my note on Canada. Save them, liberate them, bring them home. Jesse, Patrick, final thoughts. I feel like this was a great lesson in optimism. Like only 20, 21% of Canadians were like, we want to be American. And you're all like, yeah, done deal. We got it. So thanks for that. So what you're saying is there's a chance.

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