Pirate Wires - Trump hates Doomers, Lesbians hate Masks | PW Pod ft. Mike Solana & Bridget Phetasy

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

Welcome back to the pod! Today we're talking abundance. After Trump's deal with Greenland this week, we break down that, despite the flaws of the administration, Trump has positioned himself as the abundance president when it comes to American advancement (while the Democrats' abundance agenda has fallen apart.) Also on the show, a NYT writer virtue signals her way into sending her kid to a terrible public school, woke is so back as a lesbian bar breaks the internet for removing their mask mandate, and we have a white pill in human brain development side of science!-Thank you to our PRESENTING sponsor Monaco! https://www.monaco.com/-Get $500 off the NEW Eight Sleep Pod 6: https://www.eightsleep.com/piratewirespodcast- Check Out Our Pirate Wires FLAGSHIP fund on Autopilot: https://marketplace.joinautopilot.com/landing/5890/1390461?referrer=AP Featuring Mike Solana, Bridget Phetasy, Riley NorkSign Up For The Pirate Wires Daily! 3 Takes Delivered To Your Inbox Every Morning:https://get.piratewires.com/pw/dailyPirate Wires On X: https://twitter.com/PirateWiresMike Solana On X: https://twitter.com/micsolanaRiley On X: https://x.com/rylzdigitalBridget On X: https://x.com/BridgetPhetasyTIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Welcome Back To The Pod! THANK YOU MONACO1:30 - Is Trump The Abundance President?11:15 - What Happened To The Dems Abundance Movement?20:30 - The Public School System is Broken32:35 - THANK YOU AUTOPILOT33:20 - What Exactly Is Happening With Hangings Around The Country?44:50 - Woke Is Back & Better Than Ever! Lesbian Mask Bar Breaks The Internet50:21 - Macklemore Cancels Ed Sheeran1:07:50 - White Pill! Huge Advancements In Brain Science!1:15:10 - THANK YOU EIGHT SLEEP1:16:15 - Go See Bridget live! See You Next Week#podcast #technology #politics #culture #tech #ai

He is committed to the principles of abundance in a way that I have never seen the president actually be committed. Honestly, it's just nice to have someone white-pilling. She has now penned an essay asking the question, in fighting for every black child, did I betray my own? There's no way she's going to a public school. If you have an immunocompromised in your life, please hold them in your prayers. What's up, guys? Welcome back to the podcast. We are in the lovely Manhattan Labs. This is Matt's studio in New York.

Love it, traveling, so I'd love to stop by. Of course, we have Bridget in the House back. Two weeks in a row. Love to have you. Riley, tuning in from Vegas, I believe. Correct. There we go. We got a pack show.

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Did not kill it. Took it down with a trank. Now it's in some nature preserve or something. This is all true. You can fact check me. We got a lot to cover, though, today. Also shout out to autopilot, which is how I followed the Wildcats trades online. And ate sleep, which is how I got a good night's sleep last night.

We're going to talk more about their new pod a little bit later. Riley, let's get into the show. Absolutely. So this week, our focus turns to Greenland or Iceland, as Trump once famously called it, where Europe's worst fears became a reality after President Trump sent in the Marines to invade the territory. And, okay, that part didn't happen. The president did, however, make a new deal with Denmark and Greenland to bolster security in the region, paving the way for more U.S. military bases there. High level the agreement allows the U.S. to build two new bases at regions whose names I'm not even going to try to pronounce, as well as expand and modernize its existing space base in Greenland. The New Deal also explicitly mentions the establishment of the Golden Dome missile defense system, which the president has long touted, and prohibits non-NATO countries from establishing a military presence there unless all parties agree. So sort of a classic Trump move where he, you know, floats the most outlandish proposal first, you know, building a Trump tower, Greenland, only to eventually land on a smart deal that maybe was his intention all along.

We publish a piece a while back the case for Greenland on why a move like this is a good idea for America, which everyone should go check out. And it's just the latest in a long line of forward thinking moves from the president. You know, Trump has also pushed for a moon base. He's posted on truth, social. The moon is ours. Reminder to go get your Moonchabia state shirts on Powerwires.com. And we just covered last week how he's telling the AI companies to keep building nerds amidst all the doom talk. So he's really been going founder mode here in the second term.

What do we make of this Greenland deal? Yeah, I checked it out. So the New Deal centers America in a way I would say it was not previously centered. You know, we used to need NATO. It, I think also very critically, allows us to have now veto rights on what sort of mineral deals Greenland makes. So the key thing there is going to be China, which we don't want anywhere near the island. And I think it's, I mean, listen, I was always a big fan of making Greenland estate. I think not paying the people of Greenland who don't seem to do that that much just to exist as an American.

Maybe I don't mind that. you know, not bringing a bunch more people onto American welfare and just being able to do whatever we want there seems fine. I think probably inevitably, though, this does end with, I think Greenland becomes, I do think it will become American territory. I think that Denmark is not going to like this deal long term. The deal is explicitly forever, which means no one can get out of it, even if Greenland becomes its own state, they can't get out of this deal. And so I think it just long term will make the most sense for them to give it to us, it's cool. It's cool to be in a country that feels like it's growing. And I think this deal in the context of the trend of Trump is pretty

interesting. So I'm going to list a handful of things. Riley mentioned a few of them, but I'm going to list a handful of things I've found pretty notable. Trump is basically the nation's foremost data center mascot at the moment. He is constantly defending them. He's constantly saying we need to build them. He's going to pave the way for them in any way that he actually can at the federal level. He's been a key to reanimating our ability in nuclear. So that's everything from there have been 40 reactor designs tested. We just wrote a piece about this actually at PirateWires, which you should go check out Ryan Asan, published it. Did a fantastic work and a bunch of great government interviews in there. We're rewriting the NRC for clarity. We have separately,

Not a day goes by, I think, that I don't hear about some new special economic zone. There is one, I think probably the most well-rumored is the nuclear special economic zones that he's working on. Obviously, Greenland. And then let us not forget that he declared moon American territory. As I kind of think through all of these puzzle pieces, it occurs to me, there is not a, let alone, I'm not even talking about Republican. There's not a politician, Republican or Democrat, who I would say is more of an abundance candidate. And I don't know. What do you guys make of what do you guys make of that? Did he rename AI or was I hallucinating? He did. I don't think it's going to stick though.

I mean, you can't just rename AI. First of all, it's this one actually bothers me. He renamed the Gulf of America or whatever. I feel like he's entitled to do that. I don't even know what the whole name was. The Gulf of America, the Gulf of, I mean, the Lake of America, whatever. But ASI means something. It is kind of funny because the thing that the AI researchers are really afraid of is artificial super intelligence which he said he just declared we already have I don't know if he knows that I don't know if he knows that or

if it's just like he did it does he think he invented the term or is he trying to get ahead of their fears saying there's nothing to fear because we're already there I'm not sure I would say if if ASI if he did I mean did he create ASI he said he has a very high intelligence or was it very high IQ we're in good hands I don't know. That stuff, we could say... The very stable genius.

The rest of it, I think, is really good, though. I think the rest of it is super impressive and really kind of underdiscust because the coding is so weird. He's not a regular Republican. He actually, in a lot of ways, operates in a progressive way, I would say, even in terms of economic populism. But the things that he wants the government to do great things. That's a relatively new kind of Republican. And so I don't think he's really getting the...

credit Democrats would give a Democratic president. But I guess that should go without saying. I mean, it's not that surprising. He codes to me as very actually founder lately. You know, it's like a very like Silicon Valley like move fast and break shit energy. It's very weird to see a president who is just kind of full steam ahead in this moment. And I'm actually grateful that he is this way because I think, I mean, what an it's, yes, as we talked about last week,

there's a lot of things to be scared of and doom and we have to be measured and all this stuff. But it also is like a crazy time to be alive and exciting. And imagine both sides of the party have kind of a black pill mentality on this. And he's actually quite optimistic, which I find very refreshing, because everybody else is like,

oh, it's going to be the end of the world and doom and black pill and all the stuff that I'm, yes, we, okay, we can manage our fear, but he seems to be very yolo about it. Well, I mean, on the other hand, he is pretty old. So he's like, but what do I have to lose to ASI? But he has grandkids, though. I mean, he care. People try and say that, oh, he doesn't care about it.

I'm like, this guy has grandkids. He has kids. It's not like, I don't believe that he's just out there. You know, I think Trump will make these kind of throwaway comments like, well, we're all going to be dead. He does seem to have a very clear view of his mortality. But I don't think that that means that he doesn't care about leaving a world for his grandkids. And in fact, he probably has much more information about what the other countries in the world,

including our enemies, are doing with AI and certainly doesn't want to hand over the keys to whoever controls us controls the world to China to leave for his grandkids. So I am, I'm weirdly behind him on his, his kind of aggressive building mentality in this moment. I think you have to take him at the same way that I take the AI safety researchers at their word, they really believe that the doom is coming. I think you have to take him at his word. He really does believe that this is going to be okay. Is he an expert in this? Obviously not.

But no one's an expert in the end of the world at the hands of the AI. We've never created AI before, let alone ASI. So everyone is kind of in the realm of speculation right now. And to your point, it honestly is just nice to have someone white pilling. It's crazy, actually, that he is the only one. It seems like on both. I'm sure there are some Republicans saying something, but he is certainly the most vocal defender of these things.

I would say Trump is more of a defender of, and again, not just AI, but the technology industry than many of the people in tech themselves, right? What is it? Data centers are not just about AI. everything runs on data centers. He's interested in our technological infrastructure. Now, he's done other things, too. I mean, I don't love the war stuff.

Tariffs, kind of a cluster fuck. No one is perfect. But he is committed to the principles of abundance in a way that I have never seen the president actually be committed. I think that he really believes that he can single-handedly generate that sort of abundance for us.

And I think that he sees, I think that he sees the technology industry as maybe one of his only tools to affect this change and attacks on it is something that he has to ward off because what does he what does trump want i think the way i try and understand him typically is through the frame of i think he wants to be just remembered as the greatest president of all time he wants to be remembered as better than abraham lincoln like that that he thinks he is and he wants other people to agree he wants the new york times to one day say this man was better than Abraham Lincoln. He really believes it could happen still. And you can't do that if everybody dies.

So yeah, I trust it. I trust that he believes that we're on the good path. There was a clip that went around this week of Lomaz and Chris Rufo rapping about eight months back on why they thought abundance was always going to fail. Love those guys. I happened to have written a piece about a year ago about abundance called the abundant delusion in the Atlantic. I love, looked around, as I think many of us were looking around at that time, and I noticed, hey, it seems like the left has this real problem of ascendant, violent Marxism. It seems like these people really want to kill people. It seems like the Libuji Manjean thing was a really big deal on the left and was really animating the left. And I don't know how abundance as a left-wing

project, which needs the support of the Democratic base, which now wants to kill all of the people producing abundance, is going to work long term. I think, in fact, it can't work. I think, you guys cannot actually do abundance because where does that come from? Primarily, despite maybe Trump's optimism, I think primarily where abundance comes from and has always come from in America, probably beyond, has been private industry, right? When you talk about food, you talk about energy, you talk about housing, you talk about your transportation in automobiles, in planes, in clothing, in all the stuff that we love, in entertainment, like all of that comes from private enterprise.

up to and including now everything from, you know, our internet infrastructure to like robotics and artificial intelligence. That all comes from industry. So if you're out here talking about like, let's create a world of energy too cheap to meter and everyone's whizzing around in there, flying cars and we have unlimited education and food and whatever for everybody, you're not doing that without industry. And if your allies on the Democratic Party all hate industrialists, then you're not going to eat. You'll never be able to run. on the policies that industry needs to survive. In fact, you're going to end up cornering yourself,

backing yourself into a corner where you're attacking the very engine of our productivity. I don't think the Republicans are perfect. I never have. And I sometimes get criticized for not criticizing them enough. But I don't see them as actually like an existential threat to everything that I care about right now. And I think the abundance Democrats are sort of reversed here. I never thought it would work, and now what do you have? You've got, you know, As Rekline out there talking about a moratorium on recursive self-improvement

and he's, you know, criticizing AI. You've got Derek Thompson talking about the purported benefits of AI and sort of drawing a distinction between those and the present, what, dangers and irritations inherent of AI. And it's like purported benefits, AI is presently, right this moment, a miracle technology, right? It's like you're walking around with a tricorder. We have self-driving cars. I can ask it anything from like historical anecdotes and analysis to, hey, here are my x-rays. Can you tell me what's wrong?

That's amazing. That's already really, really great. I think that they are pivoting because they have to. I think the project's failing. I think there is not necessarily momentum on the right for this either. I think Trump's kind of fighting a like a one-man fight on behalf of this stuff for all of us. I think that if you ever do see the project work, it will be there, however. What do you think is holding back then the abundance thinkers from like making overtures to the right?

Like I know housing is a big issue for them. So maybe they would say like, okay, if Trump is the abundance president, where is all the new like affordable housing? But as we just talked about last week, like that's kind of a supply and demand issue. And you know who's definitely not going to crack down on illegal immigration anytime soon as Zoramam Dani. So what do you think is preventing them from reaching out to the right? I think in politics, everyone's animated by a handful of things. And you might talk a lot about abundance topics, but the North Star on your compass might be open borders or something maybe let me steal man it. A much more lax immigration policy.

The North Star on your compass might be something like economic populism. These guys have been sort of favorable to both of these things. Maybe they care more about that. And if they do, certainly Trump would be the wrong guy. They might just care about vibes. Trump's vibes are not intellectual. They're not like great, happy vibes if you're a lib. There are lots of reasons I think you might not like Trump.

You could blame, you can say war, but it's like, hasn't everyone done war? I mean, yeah, we all hate war, but like literally every president has done it. So I'm not really sure if that one counts. Yeah, I don't know. Bridget, what do you make of it? Well, it's funny you bring this up because I've been thinking a lot about it. I have a family member who's kind of a, let's call him, like, Trump 1.0 voter. And I keep hearing about these voters, these Trump voters who voted for him in 2016,

who are now turning on him because of the war. And I have not experienced that at all, anecdotally, with every single person I know who is a ride or die OG Trump voter, they seem to love him even more, actually, than they did 10 years ago. but to that point another family member who's very liberal was talking to the MAGA member and was saying, you know, oh, I bet you're mad about the war and gas.

And he was like, I mean, yeah, maybe I got to pay a dollar extra for gas, but at least my kids don't have to learn that men can get pregnant. And I think like to your point that everyone has a different North Star and I think that people underestimate he's like, oh, the war, he's like,

okay, pour me more coffee. There's been a war there for like 30 years. I don't think that people, I think there are young people who have been disillusioned by the no new wars. But I think the older Gen Xers who have been, this has been kind of in the background, elder millennials, for most of our lives,

it's not it's not the like make or break thing because in that time period we have seen America become much more shitty and so how what what are the problems that we have at home that we can address borders I think H1B visas are you know a big problem that gets taken advantage of and I don't know I don't and like some of the stuff that's being taught to the kids and schools matters a lot more to parents than a dollar more for gas. Yeah. I mean, we're going to find out for sure, right? I mean, the midterms are coming up.

We're going to have exit polling. People are going to say what they care about. I do think people still care a lot about cost of living. That's not better. It got a lot worse under Biden. True. But it's still not better. It's still pretty rough out there.

And then it's going to come down to, like, I've seen these memes as well. people are like, what are they saying? It's like, oh, yeah, it's like gas is more expensive. So I guess I got to elect the like kill all the white people party and things. And it's like there's going to be some of that. But the proof will be in the pudding. It'll come down to just which way people vote. I think, I don't know.

I don't think it looks good for Trump right now. I think. Oh, no. Well, I think that the. I also think everyone's saying there's going to be this big blood bag. but I will tell you on the ground, again, anecdotal, talking to people, they're pretty okay with a lot of the stuff that Trump has done. I have the disdain that I experience, and again, I haven't like gone to colleges and

interviewed those kids. Maybe I should. But the level of, you know, oh, this is going to be so bad for Trump does not. translate to what I'm seeing on the ground at all. And maybe it is just like an age, a demographic difference, an age difference. But most people seem pretty okay with that. And look, you can be somebody who is upset with when they poll you and say, hey, do you disagree with the war in Iran? And people go, yeah, I disagree with it. That doesn't mean they're going to vote for team blue. So they'll use this example as saying, oh, see all these people who voted for Trump and they disagree

with the war, that means nothing. It doesn't mean that they're still not going to vote red in the election. It just means they might not agree with a thing that he did, which adults are able to separate, like, they're not, they're able to hold two things in their minds at once. So you can say, I don't agree with some of the things he's doing. I'm still not going to vote for Kamala or, or whoever is in the midterm. So that's what's interesting to me. I'm not seeing that same level of disappointment on the ground. And I'm in a lot of like birthday parties and

very normal spaces. So I just don't see it. But again, that is totally anecdotal. Well, birthday parties brings us to kids. Kids brings us to Nicole Hannah Jones. Is that her name? Nicole Hannah Jones? Yeah.

And I do want to just give a shout out to autopilot for this next segment. We're about to rock your world. while I would absolutely love to follow the trades of, for example, one boss, Nancy Pelosi, I think I would be less interested in following these trades of Nicole Hannah-Jones.

Just based strictly on her ability to predict things, Riley, take it away. Yeah, now it's time to look at one New York Times reporter's bold quest to single-handedly save the New York public school system by offering her daughter as a sacrifice. Pretty brave, if you ask me. That was the mission of Nicole Hannah-Jones, like you mentioned,

author of the infamous Pulitzer Prize-winning 1619 project. She has now penned an essay asking the question, In Fighting for Every Black Child, Did I Betray My Own? She goes on to detail how despite having the means to send her daughter to a private school, she put her through a very poorly ranked public high school in Brooklyn, and a decision that her daughter is apparently now pretty pissed about. So why did Nicole Hannah-Jones do this? You ask, well, because she was obviously fighting New York's racist,

segregated school system, which she apparently thought she was going to fix overnight just by her mere presence. In a resurface clip justifying her decision at the time, Hannah Jones says, a New York Times reporter in a high poverty school fucking changes the school. I can go to that school and say there is a problem, and it gets fixed immediately.

Dude, I think she believes that. I think she really, or she did. I genuinely think that she believed that. Sorry, Riley, finish. I can't. I mean, that's pretty much it. I think you're right. It did not get fixed immediately.

All it did was get her daughter to get pissed at her. So that's something, I guess. Slana, I know you have a lot of thoughts about this that you shared in our daily news. I want to start with Bridget actually. Because you've got a child. You're thinking about education more than me. There's no way.

She's going to a public school. Wait, where are you going to send her? I don't know. Somewhere that doesn't teach any form of wokeism at all, which is completely crept into every single institution and every single curriculum, even in Texas somehow, even in public schools. So some are better than others. I don't, but I don't want that.

I don't want her to learn to hate her country. and that it seeps into, and I don't need her to learn that any of the pronoun stuff. Like, I don't, I did the same thing when I was looking for preschools. If they, if I emailed a preschool and they came back and it was a Montessori or something like that and I had pronouns in the bio, I was like, nope, nope, we're not doing this. I don't even want to, I don't want it anywhere near my kid. And that's my, that's me, that's just people have different feelings about it. And I want her to learn logic.

I want her to learn rhetoric. I want her to learn the things we used to teach children before we started teaching them that math was racist. I want her to learn math. Yeah, I don't think math is racist. Shock. Shock take. I would say the Nicole Hannah-Jones stuff is super interesting to me

because it was not even, like, wokeness wasn't even a part of that conversation. She's like, let me send my kid to this violent, dangerous school to prove something. about like systemic racism and also just like resources and all of which all of which was wrong and it really I guess what it immediately catalyzed which I thought was fun as always was a discourse on you know why was it wasn't like there was a bit of is this woman crazy how could she sacrifice her child there's a bit of timeline investigation so you know it seems like she

actually celebrated her decision to do this publicly after her daughter, according to her own new timeline, had told her she hated the school and felt that her mom made a terrible decision. All that was interesting. I think Nicole needs to be attacked for the part she's played in mainstreaming racism, honestly, and just dumbing down the discourse generally across the entire country. But then there was a question of, well, why was the school bad? And that's a good question. Why are New York City public schools bad? And I think that's I think one huge part of the reason is they're not really safe. Kids don't feel safe there.

They're like somewhat violent places. You have a lot of dangerous kids there. You have hugely disruptive kids there. And in that kind of environment, it's almost impossible to learn. And so I think that that is the conversation that we should be having. Like, what if we just kicked those kids out of school or certainly out of class? Like, why don't we start there? I don't think it's resources.

It's not like you don't have enough money. I don't even think it's the teachers unions, though they do suck and do a lot of damage. I don't think it's wokeism, though, also a problem. I think it's this. I think we start here. I think you could just actually make the classes better environments for learning by removing the people who make that impossible. I got some pushback for that. But first of all, what do you think about that?

What do you make of that part? What was the pushback? Well, the pushback is what do we do with the bad kids? It's, well, what do we do? what do we do with the violent antisocial lunatics? And it's like, I don't know. The same thing that we did. What have we always done with them?

What did we used to do with them for the 200 years prior before we started deciding that they did belong in class with everybody else? I don't actually know what that is. I have some solutions. I think it could be another class for bad kids. I think it could be another school for bad kids. I think maybe we do like some kind of military training for bad kids. I think that we could maybe do vocational training for bad kids.

I think I have my final solution. I have more, actually. One that I'm excited about. Your final solution? Not the, right. Maybe not the final, final solution. I have one that I think is an interesting solution. What if we had some kind of farm program, okay?

And it's like if you're really bad, first you get moved to a different class, then you get moved to a different school. Then if you don't make it in the different school, we send you to a farm for a while. And you're just like isolated from other kids and like you're running around the farm and you're like working on the farm. And maybe you're learning math in the context of like, go count how many eggs there are. today from the chickens or whatever. I don't give a fuck. They got to get out of here, though.

That's like the first thing is they got to go. And then people are like, what? This is crazy that people even ask me this question. People then asked, many people then asked, oh yeah, well, what happens when they turn 18? They turn 18 and they're still committing crime. They go to prison. Like, I don't know what to tell you.

We're not basing our entire civilization around the bottom 1%. It's just ludicry. Chris, that we've let it got this far. And I think we do have to have a serious conversation about, one, you're not going to fix those kids by putting them in class with good kids. And then two, even if you could, which we've now proven you can't, it would not be moral because it would mean the rest of the kids are suffering. Yes. And, but I don't know how you get outside of that.

This seems we see this in every major city where we have lunatics being unleashed on the population constantly. This is why I left L.A. I see it in Austin. We had something horrific happened here recently. How many times has a violent criminal been let out of jail in many of these cities and then

goes on to literally kill somebody? And so the attitude of just letting the worst people terrorize good citizens, it seems to be pervasive in the whole left wing. This is a huge part of why I left the left wing.

and do not identify with them at all. You cannot do the basic job of a government, which is to protect your citizens. That is a basic baseline thing. That's all you should be focused on is how do you allow normal taxpaying people to thrive and not let meth heads cook their drugs and shoot up in front of a freaking school? But this is something that they seem to be okay with and fine with. And so it makes sense to me that they would allow it to start in the public schools as well, that they would have a same mentality about violent criminals.

Right. And of course, it is, you're right, it's broader. It's obviously, it is pervasive throughout society. We've even internalized, I, maybe I won't speak for you. I find that I have internalized their frame on this to a certain degree where, you know, I'll walk through the streets of San Francisco and there'll be some drug addict. you know, out on the corner, either covered in feces or whatever else. And also, I mean, roaming the streets, they're violent, breaking glass, like breaking windows and things like this,

threatening people. And before I can get to my opinion, which is like, we got to get this guy off the street, my go-to is like, how do we help these people? Why is no one helping these people? And I think that's true. Like, you know, we do want to help these people. But those people are, not actually the thing that I'm most concerned about. I'm most concerned about law-abiding, regular, normal people, trying to live their lives who are put in danger by these people. And this is the entire, I mean, the entire justification for the existence of a government is that it will monopolize violence and protect you from these people. And if you can't do that, to your point, I don't know, it starts to feel like the state itself is not super legitimate.

I think Democrats are actually grappling with this and they do want to change. You see people like Mom Donnie's speaking about this, actually. It's funny. I think he has so many crazy left-wing bona fides that he's permitted to speak on topics like these now. We'll see, I guess, as we move forward to what extent they're willing to actually do the work. But certainly in the context of the end. education conversation, they're not super interested. They're not actually facing the problem.

No amount of money is going to fix a kid who is like threatening to punch the teacher in class or a kid who's trying, another kid who's trying to learn. You're just, you're never going to, you're never going to get to a place where the class is doing well if the kids don't feel safe in the class. We are also six years downstream of these kids watching a lot of anti-social behavior that was just permitted. So you will, oh, allowed huge portions of people to go into cities during, during BLM and during George Floyd summer and riot and burn things down and steal and loot and destroy property. And now you have these like city, you know, the street takeover.

All of this is downstream of people seeing nothing's going to happen to you. Nothing happened to any of those people. And in fact, Kamala was raising money to bail people out of jail who were doing these things. So downstream, you already have a permission structure where people feel like there are zero consequences for that kind of behavior. And you've got a whole generation of kids that were locked up and then allowed to kind of go run wild and loot downtown Manhattan or do whatever they wanted to do with no consequences at all. And why do we expect that they don't think that they're going to be able to run their high school like a jail? I mean, not for Natalie, but some of us for years now have been talking about flogging. And no one wants to take it seriously.

But I'm not joking. Thank you autopilot. Riley, next segment. Well, guys, it is time for you to buy a house. Unfortunately, that house costs $2.79 million and your competition is an AI-Dumer building AI and anthropic paying cash. That's why you need autopilot. the platform that lets you invest alongside politicians like the trader Rokana and real-time traders automatically. You build the cash flow, let autopilot help build the wealth.

Autopilot is built by the same team behind the infamous Pelosi tracker and now includes our own PirateWire's flagship fund, which you can find over on the autopilot site at www.joinautopilot.com. Incredible segue. Yeah. So speaking of Nicole Hannah-Jones, who sees racism, everywhere she looks. This week, I learned that apparently in the year 2026, lynchings are still a widespread epidemic in this country. Who knew? That is, at least if you get your news from Miss Rachel, who posted a video decrying black people still being lynched in this country,

or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who wrote in a tweet recently, this year there have already been 10 reported hangings of black people in the U.S. before announcing that she'd signed on to a letter to address these widespread modern day lynchings and put a stop to this racial terror. There's just one problem, which the community note under her tweet summed up beautifully. The majority of those cases have been ruled suicides. And in the case of one woman from Mississippi who was found hanging from a tree, that case was investigated as a homicide, but all of the suspects arrested so far have been black.

Yeah. This comes after Converse was forced to uphold. apologize after critics said that a recent ad of there showing literally the legs of a guy wearing converse, like kind of suspended in the air, was obviously a subtle nod to lynching. Meanwhile, for an actual case of widespread random violence in this country, Bridget, you just mentioned that man in Austin, who I guess people like Greg Gutfeld knew and described him as just the nicest person you could ever meet, just randomly stabbed on a park bench. This assailant, I guess, even tried to decapitate him.

just absolutely tragic. Sort of a touchy subject, but what do you guys think of this push from AOC and others to try to convince us lynchings are widespread? It's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Obviously, Congresswoman Ayanna, was it Presley, that one of the squad members, former squad members, you got Jasmine Crockett,

Rep Summer Lee, you have Roe-Kana. All of these people have talked about the plight of actual lynching throughout the country. None of them have been made to answer for that. There is no evidence that there is a plague of lynching happening at all. And it's really super corrosive to the entire country when you talk about things like this. Obviously, it's terrifying. If you're a black person and you think there's some crazy lynching epidemic happening throughout the South, you're going to be, you're going to feel horrible about that. That's going to further divide the country along racial lines. We have a long history of having a very difficult time trying to bridge that gap. This is not helping. I don't,

there need to be consequences for lying. These are just lies at this point. We, we know that it is, it is not happening. There needs to be pushed back from the media. Where is it in the mainstream press? It seems like all of these people are getting a free, a free pass for, for really, what I might term even, like a heinous blood libel. I mean, you, you're saying that white people, white racists are doing something that they're not doing. And also just last thought on the Converse thing, why on earth would they be, like, who is buying the shoes because they saw the KKK ad? Like, what, who are they, how are they making money off of that? How many white supremacists in Chuck Converse are there out there? Like, it just doesn't make any sense from a business

perspective. So I don't, anyway, that's my thought on that. Bridget, what do you make of it? I was thinking about a lot of the, the, the, like, converse stuff and the, it's funny because I was very much, I saw the original ad campaign for the Converse stuff. And then I saw what they had cropped.

Because the actual converts people did crop an image and put it on their Instagram. So it wasn't, because there's a lot of confusion around that topic. And then we were joking on dumpster fire, where I'm like, oh, clearly these people are just hysterical. Look what they posted. And then I was like, oh.

Because it did feel to me like if somebody walked up to me on the street and said, hey, what do you think of when you see this? It would be like a weird social experiment to try and determine if I have like implicit bias. You know, like, uh, nothing. I see. Sorry, I'm colorblind. I don't even, I couldn't even tell that it was white. I thought that she might have been black.

I don't know. don't make judgments like that. Yeah, that is funny too, the idea of like, who's the, the market for this exactly. If you're, if you're like, oh, we're going to try and target the, like, 10 actual, you know, grand wizards in America that the converse ads or whatever. We need them to be wearing these. But you are right. There's this kind of, there is a just, Miss Rachel, I had, I took, I have a kid. So everyone was talking about Miss Rachel. I heard her literally for two seconds, and I was like, that woman is completely mentally ill. And I don't want my kid anywhere near her.

This was four years ago. And every, again, anecdotally, every person I know whose kid listened to Miss Rachel has like a learning delay. Like speech delay. And she dresses like a child. She looks crazy. So I don't, she, Miss Rachel just, she strikes me. as someone that is not mentally stable anyways. And so I don't really tend to listen to anything that she has to say.

But she does have a massive audience of people and she's terrifying them to think that there are lynchings regularly happening in America. And like you said, to your point, there is, and this is a much bigger topic that affects everything we talk about. There's no consequence for lying at all. and even people in our media. I'm not sure when it is a shameless culture that you live in, how you, and you can just keep pivoting from one thing to the next

without having to check yourself or acknowledge it you're wrong or take into information or say, oh, I was wrong. This wasn't actually a lynching. It was a tragic suicide. I don't know really how things get better because it is just going to, now you have all these parents and their kids. thinking that this is, you know, some rampant problem in the United States. And then you also have our politicians saying it.

And they're not accountable to correcting themselves or speaking the truth. And it seems, I guess it makes me feel like it's intentional. You know, it feels like that that's the point. Do they believe it? They believe, I think they believe that we are a racist country. They don't have access to the facts? They believe that we're. a racist country. They believe that we are a systemically racist country. And so it's within their

framework for thinking about the world. This actually makes sense. When something confirms your biases, you don't often, you know, double-click. This is the average person. When it comes to someone like Ms. Rachel, I feel like, I don't know much about her. I only ever see her. She seems to really care a lot about the Israel-Palestine thing. And she seems to lie about lynchings. So these are the things that I know about her. I also don't trust adults who dress like children necessarily. I don't know why she's doing what she's doing.

I do think that Americans, at least half the country, has this idea that we're super, super racist and therefore this is possible. And that's something that we need to address. I think it's just not true. And if anything, maybe it's like the opposite. And we're probably never going to get anywhere on stuff like the lynching story until we address that first thing, that first thing first, which is nobody is holding you back. Nobody's holding you back.

Which starts in schools though, too. The system is not racist. The average American is not racist. Well, the average white American is not racist. Like, I think that, and not only do I think that we, do I think that? We have polling that indicates this. Anytime you ever poll Americans divided by race on how they feel about these topics, it becomes very clear what sort of a country that we're living in.

And I think that's the sort of difficult conversation that people don't want to have, but it's kind of nuts that people don't want to have it because it's good news. What that says to me is that a lot of people have a political interest in keeping this alive in keeping black Americans and white Americans divided on this topic. And I think as long as that political interest remains, you're going to, to see it. I think, I hate to make it a Democrat-Republican thing, but the Democrats would completely implode without the support of Black Americans. And to maintain 90-plus percent support from Black Americans, I think you really have to forward this idea that half the country truly

is violently racist. And once that illusion falls away, there wouldn't be a rational reason to defend them no matter, the Democrats, no matter what. You would see probably something more like parody and I do think that would be a disaster for the DNC. So I think there's a political incentive to keep the hysterias going and I think that's why we see this right now. I agree and I think I wonder if AOC's involvement specifically is like signaling to a possible future presidential run because I know the Democrats shifted their primary states around so South Carolina is now the first state which obviously a huge base of black Democrat voters. So I wonder if her involvement here is like thinking ahead to future presidential run. Right. And it's difficult

right now with black voters. There's all, I think there have been a handful of interesting signals that indicate, starting with the support that Trump had from black Americans, still, you know, way majority went to Kamala. But Trump did better than any Republican in history. Well, not in history, in our lives. He did better than any Republican in our lives. You have all of the interesting recent stuff that happened with the Democratic primaries where time and again, both in New York and abroad in like Michigan, you saw black Americans generally supporting something like more like a sort of mainstream machine Democrat and new immigrants to the country as well as sort of downwardly mobile elitist white Democrats voting for radical DSA candidates.

There's just clear tension there and it's not necessarily a slam dunk, I think. the next election probably, but for the rest of our lives, I don't think so. I think that a lot could change. And so, yeah, there's, again, we go back to this incentive. There's an incentive to keep people scared and to keep people divided along racial lines. And that's why we're going to why we keep seeing this. It's obviously woke, which is weird because I thought woke one was over. Riley, what do you got to say about wokeness? Well, here's a lot. would I'll say is if you have an immunocompromised in your life, to please, please hold them in your prayers.

Because a lesbian bar in Greenfield, Massachusetts, has just made the outrageous decision to suspend their mask mandate six full years after the COVID pandemic. The Boston Globe reported that last ditch bar and arts venue was announcing a DJ lineup on Instagram, which included the note. It is with love. form our immunocompromised, disabled divas. We will be opening Saturday nights as mask optional.

Obviously, a play to get more business by not forcing masks on attendees, but it backfired spectacularly among the regulars at the bar. One commenter wrote under the post, just say you're being complicit in a mass disabling event and get it over with. Meanwhile, another lesbian put it more cheerfully. I hope your venue gets firebombed for robbing my fellow immunocompromise people of their Saturday plans. Just a hilarious shit show of a story that brought the timeline a lot of great joy. Bridget, I know you wrote about this in the post, actually, and put out a banger comparing the lesbian bar to Japanese holdats who refused to surrender.

So what do we make of this story? And most importantly, when are we going to the bar? I know. I really want to go. If I was still in Rody, I would be there 100%. I would be woke tourism. It is like, let's go see what it was like in the before times. The thing I don't, everybody's doing this thing today online where progressives are all doing a little bit of a victory lap.

And they're saying like, oh, see, now we can, I feel like there's been a shift and we can finally push back against our craziest. I'm like, oh, you know when that shift happened? It's when our atomic bomb Donald Trump dropped. And that's when the shift actually started to happen. And you could push back against some of this crazy. And that's why a lot of it has gone underground. I do not think it's gone at all. And people are like, oh, that was wild.

Remember when everything was like that? And they're being very loosey-goosey about it in the same way that AOC is like, woke one was crazy. And actually, I find it makes me really mad because they purged people like me who were saying this was crazy 10 years ago. I got called all kinds of names, carrying water for Nazis, carrying water for racist. Every name in the book that you could possibly call me was, I was, they threw at me for even saying, hey, some of this stuff is insane. People are using this to bully other people into silence. It also, came from the top down.

You couldn't, it wasn't just other citizens policing each other. You had this from all of the main institutions. You had the media with like the Covington kid. I mean, think of how insane it actually was and how many lives were destroyed. And now they're

just like, oh, that was nuts. Well, now we can criticize our other people. And I'm like, you guys were just, it was Mary Kirkmas last week. I just don't buy it. I don't buy it. You guys were celebrating Luigi G. Mangione, you were celebrating Mary Kirkmas literally like two weeks ago. So what have we just evolved from woke one was crazy to woke two is psychotic?

Because that seems, it seems like everyone's a little bit more violent and psychotic. And I don't also trust that any of these people who through all of these moderates who are trying to say, hey, let's not appeal to the craziest 1% in our party under the bus. and went along with every moral panic that came in, like, came their way. I don't trust that they're not going to go along with the next one because they're cowards. Like, you're cowards. I would say that they're not, they weren't appealing to the craziest. When we're talking about like the lesbians in their COVID masks freaking out about maybe not being in a COVID mask anymore,

those are the soft and friendly version of crazy left-wing people. The really crazy people that they're presently catering to are the ones who want to kill us all. And that is now, those are mainstream, as you said, just now. I mean, that is the new, that's like, to me, that's what woke to is. I wrote a piece about it. Talked about it a little bit on Fox as well. That, it seems like there was this realization that anything queer is kind of embarrassing. But like, Muslim shit, that one, that stock is rising.

You know, we've got to be angry and like a little more Muslim. And that is what brings us maybe to stuff like McElmore. I don't think like the actual basic weirdness of wokeness is still very much in play. You have everything from Kamala Harris out there talking about DEI still. I mean, it's like, it's illegal. I mean, DEI in schools or in the workplace is no, it is, it has been a constitutional ruling. You cannot do this. You will be sued.

You will lose. And yet we're still talking about it as if it's not as if it's not itself a system of racism. It is. They're not going to abandon that. That's going to keep happening. So I think, I don't think that's a small, I don't think it's in pockets. I think the only thing that's really changed right now is, is like, is the queer stuff is kind of has as somewhat has somewhat receded. But now we have Macklemore, right? Just absolutely punishing that beloved ginger over a refusal to take an issue on Gaza, which is sort of like revitalizes in career, it seems. Well, we'll see. I mean, he's only touring in Europe right now, and there's a reason for that. Did you follow the, did you follow the, the Maclemore stuff, Bridget? Oh, I didn't want to.

Yeah, I didn't want to, and then we did. Once he made the apology, I was, I was all in. I keep calling him White Kaepernick. Like, it just reminds me of the Kaepernick thing. You have a guy who's, who's an opener. I was furious that he was, I'm furious as someone who opens for other comedians. I'm like, your job is to just juggle while the real talent not the real, like while the

people everyone's coming to see shows up. You're not supposed to like make it all about you and your movement. And so I didn't love that that he kind of again, it reminds me very much of woke and that you have all these people paying

to go see. McElmore and not Malcolm, well, not really him. Ed Sheeran, but they're seeing McElmore as his opener. And he makes it a political thing, which fine, free, like, do your thing, whatever. I don't know that

the stadiums who said he needed to go, I think it was well within their rights to do that. I don't think that just from a PR perspective, that's what I would have done. I think it just gave him more attention and made him a martyr.

and it blew the whole situation up and made it escalated everything in a way that didn't need to be escalated, I would have like, all right, let him have his little flag moment and let's just ignore it or whatever. Right, because what they would say, they would say that actually this is an example of censorship. Israeli people being woke, pro-Israeli people being woke because they, first of all, Ed kicked McLemore off the tour. That's what caused the backlash, not Ed's own position on Palestine.

and then, of course, you had the billionaire dude who said, Maclemore's out, you know, across the board. And so people are kind of responding to that. I think there's something, I think there's something to that. I think that he definitely, like, to your point, I completely agree, the dude fed into this completely and should not have, should not have ban the act. Yeah, but it's also like, why do you, why is the expectation?

there's a lot of interesting things at play here. And now I ignored it because I thought Maclemore was a DJ until like one day ago. And then there's so much, if you came into my store and said, free Palestine with your flag and you were annoying all of the customers and my cafe that I own, I would kick you out. And that would be well within my rights to do that. I don't feel like I have to allow somebody who's going to come in and. You know, maybe some people will be like, yeah, man. And some people are like, that guy's annoying. And nobody, if it's my store, I can do that.

Now, people don't like to hear that because I think for some guy like Robert Kraft, his store is a stadium. It's not a mom and pop cafe. And he decided that he didn't want that there. And then I think even he had to put out a statement and backtracked a little bit. And recognize that the zeitgeist was not really in his. favor on this one. But Ed was put in this position where this is a guy that's playing music. He seems like he's just really into playing music. Music is generally one of these things that brings people together.

It transcends so much of the culture war often. And you can stand next to all kinds of people who may not have your same political beliefs and enjoy it and get away from your problems. And much like what happened in the NFL for normies who are just trying to be entertained and escape their, you know, cancer, their uncle who has cancer, the cost of, whatever it is, just let people go enjoy things. And then you have them out. And now it's a culture war thing. So it's well within Ed and Robert Kraft's right to say, we don't want that. But again, if I was like a public relations person advising them, I would say, don't do that because now you're going to make a martyr out of the sky.

it just like it was a failure to read the room I think and now he gets to say they were trying to silence me when it's like all right so you just get to be annoying wherever you you just have a license to be loud and annoying and disrupt everyone around you wherever you go at all times that's yes so this is why it's like woke one though is because when you brought up cappernic i think that's the right comparison people were saying the same thing then they were making the same they were saying oh right wing cancel culture because we don't want to watch fucking Kaepernick at the football game. What is wokeness? Like they would say that that's right wing people being woke by reacting against this.

It's like what, well, what is, what was wokenness? What, when you think about the quality that you really were most reacting against back then, you know, I don't think any of there's no, there's no textbook answer for this. I would say probably it was the relentless politicization of everything. It was the centrality of politics. It was the way that politics became the thing that touched everything from not only who you were voting for, but what you were talking about in your knitting club. Like actually, there were knitting club woke headlines back in the early 2020s. You could not do anything without talking about Black Lives Matter and George Floyd

and having a position and taking a position as a public figure in these things. Music, film famously, people say things about politics. Of course, they get up there and they say things. I think where it becomes woke is when you have to say things. It's no longer like Sally Fields saying whatever on stage for five seconds of the Oscars, people roll their eyes, though that is relatively new. That's like we're talking the past couple of decades. That was not the norm in the 60s and 70s.

obviously it happened, but it was not like the norm. It was not a thing that everybody expected. Now, these days, we expect people to say stupid things in the Oscars. I think this, this is starting to feel to me like that, where Ed, by the way, he had to take an opinion. He was forced to take an opinion on Palestine. He had to get up there and talk about it. Maclemore didn't. Maclemore did not have to take an opinion. Ed was forced. Why? Because I don't think Ed was on that side. That's woke. That is, that's, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is the culture that is surrounding this, I believe. It is, it reminds me of so much, actually.

And then once I did start paying attention to it, I found myself getting really mad because remember when Kanye was wearing the MAGA hat? And it was like 2018. I was around the midterms, actually. And he was resisting everybody telling him that he had to be this certain way and he had to say a certain thing. And he had to believe this certain thing. And he couldn't possibly support Trump or diverge from the approach. narrative. And this was one of the things that pushed me out of into the wilderness of

feeling very lost and politically homeless was that there would, I felt as an artist, you should be able to take the piss out of whatever if you're a comedian. You and I saw Kanye kind of resisting that pressure to obey the approved narrative that was kind of everybody had to get on board with. And free Palestine feels a lot like that. I saw, the other night I was making a playlist and everybody had, it felt like the black square.

It just had free Palestine everywhere. And it was, it's very much, you have the, you know, the guerrillas came out and they, they, they did something with the Palestine flag.

You have all these artists doing it. It's, it feels very, it feels so familiar to me, where it's another situation. where, okay, believe what you want to believe, but now you're trying to make it so that everybody has to believe that and anybody who disagrees with you is going to be, hey, destroyed or they're at the very least going to be marginalized in the discourse.

And I don't think it was even an attempt to cancel Ed. You know, they know they can't cancel him. He's huge. So he's still sold out the stadium. He's still going to sell tickets. But it is that same thing that we saw. where they're going to go after somebody huge like Kevin Hart or they're going to take a, you know, try and take out somebody who's massive, which sends a signal to everybody else, you know, it feels like narrative control. Like, this is what we're going to do to you if you aren't on board with and with what we're telling you you need to be on board with.

And his apology wasn't even good enough. So even then when he apologized, that still wasn't good enough, which also feels very. It's exactly like the bar, you know, where they said, well, we're sorry about this, the immunocompromised disabled divas. And then they said, oh, this apology itself is not, is ablest because it didn't have the alt text for the vision impaired on it. And so it feels very much like there's no, it's never woke enough. And that is, I don't, I have a real allergy to to all of that. It's very chilling to me. Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's clearly not as bad, though.

It's not yet, it's not, I mean, in 2020, we had riots that we couldn't talk about. And that was a- Because they're not in power. It's only because they're not in power. I think it's the issue itself is also on the, on, among Democrats is, is people are somewhat divided. And we saw this come up a lot during primaries where, um, the issue of Palestine, that's where it was a much more effective weapon against more, I don't even want to call them moderate candidates. They were just pro-Israel candidates who were also left-wing.

And I think it's like the issue's not in America. It's nothing as much as Arabs and Muslims want to make this, like, you know, they want to tap into black American versus white American angst. they want to tap into that energy, they can't. There is no comparison to the history that America has with specifically black, white, that divide. It is part of our history, you know, is a dark history. It's a complicated history. And no recent immigrant group is going to ever make, it's just not, it's going to,

it's just not going to land the same way. I don't think it's the same. I don't think it's hitting the same. I think what's clear is that they, they want. to be living, left-wing activist certainly want to be living in the world they were a few years ago and they're fighting for it again. And I don't think the issue is quite getting them there, but they're going to try their best to get back there. And you're going to keep seeing the push for it until we are right back where we started. You don't even, you don't really

even see, I mean, again, to go back to Kamala Harris, she's not distancing herself from this stuff. It is, it is something that she's actually somewhat running on. So yeah, I just, I think it's, I think I think I was wrong. I really, a while ago I said, Woke One was over. I think it's not quite as bad, but but it's never really gone. It sort of changed, it changed American culture. And I don't think there's really no going back to the days without it. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I feel like a lot of it. Is a venereal disease? Yes. Yes. I think it's like herpes. I agree with you that it's basically herpes. We're fucked. We don't have a full-blown case right now. It's not super embarrassing on screen, like on my lip or something. But like once you get it, you're

fucked for life. So I don't know what to tell you guys. We're fine today. It's like maybe we got a little bit of an inch. But go and get the ointment because the midterms are coming. It's, it's, yeah, I don't know. I don't trust it. I don't trust it. I'm very, I, I'm sorry, Mary Kirkmas and all these things, like the way people, the bloodlust on that side is so terrifying to me. And they're doing a good job of like keeping it in check right now. But it is, there is no thing. There's no such thing as too far left in America. There's no moderating principle.

Even your, even the knee jerk reaction to be like, oh, but the right is something I did for years. And I had to really stop myself from doing that because there's, you, you never hear, oh, but the left. Like there's never a, when you're talking about the right wing access, you never hear like, oh, but they don't feel the need to do that, even though they are completely bananas. And so I worry because I think people take, they're taking for granted the fact that Trump is the president,

that things are, we came out of a very censorious time when people were being deep platform for not using the right pronouns. That was not long ago. and we had tech move in the direction of Trump because I think tech is always kind of aligning themselves with whatever administration seems to be ascending, which is not great.

And I worry. I worry that if the Democrats take power, we see tech reorienting themselves toward that kind of censoring, silencing culture. And then everybody remembers why, they remember how bad it was because everyone's forgotten how bad it was. You know, I go back and forth on the tech question. You know, does tech just do whatever based on who's in office?

That was not how they acted during Trump's first administration. Keep in mind. It is certainly, I think you could make that case for this new Trump administration. You could make that case under Biden. Yeah, I mean, they did ban him when Biden was coming in. Yes, but like you couldn't say they were necessarily Trump-centric the previous four years. I wouldn't say that at all. They were still widespread censorship.

That was when it was it was all happening then. So it's like, what is it actually that signals the change in tech? And I have a theory. I think what actually happens is the tech industry follows the most dominant guy. Like, who is the best tech guy? Who is the most successful? What is the most successful company? And who is like the icon of tech at a given moment? Who is the head boss in charge? And that is Elon Musk. And to a lesser extent, you had people like Palmer Lucky who were rising right around the time of tech's last big signal switch. Elon Musk had signal switched.

And then you had the rise of Andrel, which is like a new, exciting company that you could bet in that everybody wanted to be a part of. And that is when tech felt super, super, super based. It was, I don't think it was in response to Trump as much it was a response to the leaders within tech who were considered to be the most successful. Now what you're seeing as the model labs grow.

And you have people like Dario and Sam becoming much, much, much more influential. is I think you're seeing a left-wing resurgence and you're seeing a return to language that people might mistakenly credit to a shift in national power. I don't think so. I think it's a shift in who tech people see as dominant in the industry. And that is where the culture goes. It's not super complimentary. It's not a very complimentary read of the industry. People just go with whoever is winning, but I do think that's what's happening. Yeah, and Elon's gone very quiet about politics. I think it's like, everybody knows that if the Democrats come back in power, they're not just

trying to like fuck up his businesses. They want him in jail. They, they, they hate that man. They hate all of us, really. I mean, anyone who is not them, anyone who is not a, anyone who is not a partisan Democrat is seen by the left as complicit. Even many parties. partisan Democrats are seen as complicit. You know, you see them even go after centrist Democrats who are openly partisan Democrats. They'll go after them as complicit. It's going to be a bloodbler. Yeah, they'll go after Van Jones.

Poor Van. Poor Van. I know. I think it's time for a white pill. I think it is time for a white pill. And it's something that I'm actually able to enjoy today because I am well-rested, courtesy of the latest pod, pod six, from eight sleep. Cooled me down last night.

Thank you. Thank you, Ate's Sleep. Riley, take it away. Thank you, Ate Sleep. In today's White Pill, we have two important developments. The first one is we're apparently out here putting human brains and mice. Stanford Lab was able to create what they call xenocortical mice, which have 92% of their cortex derived from human stem cells.

Sounds creepy, but researchers said that not only did the mice with partial human brains perform better on maze tests, but it also opens the door for actual medical breakthroughs by providing an enhanced biological model of human brain tissue. Elsewhere, Neurrelink also put out a really cool video of a patient who is unable to speak himself due to the effects of ALS.

He was going through a Neurrelink trial where his implant helped him fine-tune a brain-to-voice interface, allowing him to now simply think the words he wants to say before his device then repeats it in his own words. So two massive white pills on the heels of that black pill about the lesbian bar. Are we feeling optimistic about Neurrelink and mice with human brains? Pinky in the brain.

Pinky in the brain. I would say I was at first a little bit alarmed that we were making super mice. I wondered why would we do this? Why on earth would we put what sounded like from not really knowing much about it? Human brains inside of mice. We all saw the cartoon. Like, what is the reason? We don't need another species of smart thing running around.

Also, you know, it's like we've been warned, not just pinking the brain. We've got, well, I guess that wasn't a warning in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. But we were told that the mice were the smartest creatures on the planet. But we're learning about the brain. I think that it's easy to forget that we are living in actually a time of wondrous miracles. I do all the time. But this plus the neuroleg thing just got me, got me thinking about it. It's like the mouse thing is good.

This is a way that we're going to be able to study the human mind. And hopefully, you know, work towards cures of the sword that you just mentioned and also things like Alzheimer's. And then you have Neurilink, which is not just help people communicate. It's how people see. You have just, well, what L.E.I. Yudkowski would say is potentially a, um, a way to prevent the AI apocalypse by merging with the computers. I don't know that we need to go that far.

It just seems like we're learning a lot about how our brain works, and that's going to come in handy as we all age and as our parents age, hopefully, possibly sooner as we start cracking all sorts of bio research of the sort that we've also just saw this week out of the Anthropic Lab, where we're learning new things about human biology that we didn't know before. This has been phrased somewhat derisively by people who call themselves a bunch of Democrats for some reason as the purported benefits of AI we're talking about maybe curing cancer one day. And I would say, like, I don't even need it to cure cancer.

It's already amazing. It's already doing amazing things that I never thought would be possible. I'm already walking around my backyard with what is effectively a tricorder from Star Trek asking it what the various plants are that I'm looking at. I'm already using it to check out scans of my back. I have lower back problems. I took some scans. My second opinion was GPT. It wasn't another doctor. It was free, effectively, free. It's already driving us around the city in a self-driving car. We're doing so much right now. And I think that maybe the brain stuff specifically is really a white pill. I think that why maybe it's like not even think. I don't know how you could look at these gains and be closer today to healing people with things like Alzheimer's than

ever before in history and not just be really excited to be watching this stuff happen. Yeah, I'm super stoked. Though, again, we are dealing with super intelligent mice, potentially. So Bridget, I mean, what do you make of the mice? I'm so excited about this stuff. I, and cool, bring on the super intelligent mice. Like, what if we had super intelligent mice? It's not that big of a deal. Let them cook. Let them cook.

They're smaller than us. I'm not that worried. I mean, are they a lot? If they're much smarter than us, I would be worried. But if they're like roughly as smart as us, it's not that bad. I think it's fine. No, I'm, I'm not, I'm not blackpilled at all. Imagine them in like a little.

little construction hat, like running around, surveying, like, just like interesting microengineering tasks and things. Like, that's a cute, that's a cute... What if you could have them go in your walls and look for things like leaks and stuff that you can't necessarily get to easily? Think of all of the use cases for the super intelligent mice. There are use cases for the super intelligent mic. And also, we pay them, right? Like, once they're smart enough to have a conversation with us, it's not like we're making, we're not making slave mice. That's not what I want. but like whatever, build them a little house. The housing construction will be much easier.

I've got a hamster habit trail in my basement. It doesn't take that much to house these things. So many books, too, as kids, are about mice. I mean, I read Brambly Hedge to my daughter like every night, and they're just the cutest books about mice that have a whole life and a whole rich family system, and they're going to parties and they're cooking. And actually, a lot of books have mice as the central.

just character that has a rich inner life as well. I think I'm primed for it. I'm primed for it. I'm primed. Yeah, it's like maybe this is actually it's Big Mouse. Ratatooie. It's Big Mouse

has been priming you your whole life for this. And it's like, what do you think Remy Ratatatooie is? That's propaganda. They're saying, Oh, don't be afraid of the super intelligent mice. Like you, don't you want a super intelligent mouse cooking your

pasta or whatever the fuck it is in Paris. And it's like, I do now. I wasn't thinking about it before. But yeah, I'm sufficiently primed for the super mice. I think it'll be fine. I don't think they'll be that smart. Like, let's say, I mean, they're not going to be smarter than the kids who are causing disruptions in class.

So, I mean, well, maybe. That would be wild. That would be wild if we got super intelligent mice before we got the dumb kids in class to stop threatening the teachers. And they would make better classmates. So see, it's like white pills in every direction. There's like no way that this is a problem. I'm down.

I see no downside on this, really. Yeah. I'm asleep. And the pods they would need to sleep on would be much, much, much smaller. So thank you, Ate's Sleep. You know, every once in a while I ask myself, how am I able to step up to the fire hose of insane internet politics? Pour myself a nice tall glass and down at every single day without losing my mind or soul.

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