Pixelated - Expressions of an Android 16 QPR Beta

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

Welcome to episode 55 of Pixelated, a podcast by 9to5Google. This week, we talk about Android 16 QPR1 Beta 1 and share our first thoughts on Google I/O 2025. Subscribe YouTube Podcasts Pocket Casts Spotify Apple Podcasts Overcast Hosts Abner Li Damien Wilde Read more Here’s everything new in Android 16 QPR1 Beta 1 [Gallery] Everything Google announced at I/O 2025: Gemini, Search, Android, and more Google shows Project Astra controlling your Android phone Listen to more 9to5 Podcasts 9to5Mac Happy Hour Electrek The Buzz Podcast Space Explored Rapid Unscheduled Discussions Feedback? Drop us a line at [e-mail], leave a comment on the post, or to our producer.

So Abner, we're in the same room for the first time for an episode of Pixelated. We have, yeah, we're at I.O. together. And we had a little bit of a strength drop the other day. Yes. Well, yesterday, technically. We're on day two of I.O. And we're 16 QPR one. I think it was a little bit unexpected, but kind of welcome. I don't know. You tell me what you think so far. Absolutely welcome. A week ago. But last Tuesday, Android show, we saw, we saw, it. People have been gunning for it. People have wanted it. It's finally here. And wow, it's a big change. It feels

different. It obviously looks different. We knew that. It just feels different. I think the underrated thing are the haptics, the sound, the animation, which we already knew of. But really, you can see the images, but you need to feel it. You need to use it on your

daily driver, which I have... You know that I hate that phrase. what are you using it on right now because I've slapped it on the 9 Pro fold because I wanted to see what it would do to a foldable device and there's a few little changes that are unique to this but what are you currently using it on right now because actually we have to separate at I. So I could go and dive into this straight away. So Pixel 9A is, I'm still using the Pixel 9A from the review and yeah, it's okay Android 16 is by itself pretty boring. 1, it's calling it a

QPR1 is a disservice because this might as well call it Android 17. I kid, but not by much. It is really, it makes your phone

feels so much more vibrant. And to go on a little bit of a tangent, historically, I feel like Android has always been the more alive OS, the more active OS,

Then iOS was a bit on the stale side. But I personally, I'm a fan of what iOS 16 or 17 did. When they added widgets, I thought iOS made a big, they were really going after Android to add the dynamic, make it a bit more dynamic, make it more alive. And I think 16 QPR1, material too expressive, it gets it back. It's really alive.

It feels vibrant. I think most people are a bit hesitant about the animations. Like when you slide your, when you slide away a notification, the other things move, the other notifications, the top and bottom, they move,

there's a jiggle, there's animation, it moves. And I think some people are a bit hesitant on that, just seeing it on a video, but when you actually use it, it, yes,

there's a learning curve, but I think you immediately accept it. You immediately get, oh, this is nice. It's showing some dynamicness to it. Yeah, I mean, I'm an animation guy. We talk about it. I feel like we talk about it at length, ad nauseum a little bit.

But I do agree with you. I'm obviously using the phone right now as I'm speaking to each other. And there are so many little changes that I think just to kind of add up to something a little bit more complete. Complete, yes. I guess we're going to see some more stuff because there's a few things missing here. And I must admit, I've seen a few bugs, even just before starting recording. I was messing around with the phone, and there's a few little bugs there with regards to the wallpaper and style app.

And to be fair, after that, though, it's pretty stable. We're not using it for 24 hours, right? So in general, QPRs, they launch as BATAs rather than developer previews. As we've seen with the rest of Android 16 beta, there's still bugs. But this one is, I think it's part for the course for QPRs in terms of apps, of the first betas, absolutely. So I think you will get bugs. You will notice bugs.

But again, I guess it's too soon for us to say 24 hours, but I'm not seeing anything impacting my usage. And I don't not seeing any regrets on putting it on my day on my 9A. I probably wouldn't. But I'm just kind of the person where I'm just on the side of caution, just stay on a stable for a little bit longer just in case. I mean, I think it's more a case of like, you know, when you, I mean, I haven't tried to pay for anything yet.

Have you tried to pay for anything? No, I haven't. So that's always something that I need. know that obviously most of the time it does work, but I'm always worried that I go and pay for something because I don't carry my wallet. I don't want to be that guy who stood up checkout and be like, oh, I can't pay for anything. What do you think of like the customization options? Because I think this is where there's some major changes. Quick settings. It is quick settings. Have you arranged them in any specific way? Yes, I have. I've arranged.

So honestly, I've been I've been finding a two by four grid of years old The past four years It's nice tiles, it's very tapable, et cetera, et cetera. So when I got mine, the first thing I did was switch them to this smaller size That's one by one. And so I had like six, maximum of 16

in the, on the first page. and but over time, but like immediately you start adjusting it. Some make more sense as two. For example, two wide. For example,

the boot tooth one. If you, if it's just one by one and you tap it, it's just an on and off toggle. But if it's two by one and you tap the right side, it opens the full list

of Bluetooth devices like before. So there's some nuance there. And when you're customizing, you need to keep in mind, whether you just want on and off or whether you want to access the side panel, the inline panels. So a lot of nuance

there, but yes, I've absolutely customized it. It is feeding into my density desires and it is very dense. It is. So that's pages. I'm down to two pages from Mike 4. I think that's probably going to be one of those ones that

I don't think it came across well on leaks. Like some of the stuff that we saw in the leaks prior to the time. And even when Google explain some of this stuff. When you see press images and press videos, I feel like, how would I describe it? It's almost like you have a perception

of what it's going to be before you get to try out of yourself. I think the pixel has done that for years anyway. And we've talked about, I think we've talked about that at length in this podcast anyway, that when you get an update on your device and you get to delve into it deeply

and then you start to understand things a little bit more. I feel like this is going to be one of the updates that really just grow on me. And I think this is, I mean, just going off on a little bit of a tangent, I think since Android 12 era, we've kind of missed delving into big substantial updates. And year over year, I think a lot of people were getting a little bit bored.

I don't want to say bored. Maybe they were bored, actually. Bored of the minute changes that don't necessarily affect usability. But this is a huge shift in terms of usability and visuals at the same time, which is like, I mean, it's rare, isn't it? I mean, who's the only one who's done that recently? Samsung maybe? Color OS to an extent. like this feels like a good happy medium

of lots of different versions of Android at the same time so quick sentence is a big one and I have to agree that the single tap system for Bluetooth and I think it's for modes as well I actually didn't know that it was left and right side with the elongated panel so that's a I mean that's a quick It's only for the ones that have inline panels, in line pickers but it doesn't apply to the Wi-Fi button which I find really good

Because you can't turn on and off internet. There's no, there's two separate talks since they combined it, which remember how big a deal that was? Yeah. You can't. So it's cellular connectivity and Wi-Fi's its own things. So if they made it on and off, they wouldn't put a universal on and off target for both those things. But I think that why not do what they've done on Apple devices and have the, and do it, have a cellular option. Because we still don't really know why Google cares so much about one internet.

They want to call it internet, which whatever. I mean, I like the fact that they've at least addressed two of these, right? The complaints that we had when we saw, was it QPR, Android 15 QPR 1 or QPR 2 when they introduce modes? Whatever they introduced modes, I think a lot of people were kind of confused as, what is this new thing I want do not disturb back? Yeah, I'm never undue not disturbed. Fair enough. I'm the kind of person who I have it on right now while we're recording so that you don't get pings and pings and ping.

Yeah, I'm vibrate only on my phone. So I've never. You never needed to. You felt they did it. Right, fair enough. I can kind of understand that. But yeah, these are the kind of little things that do start to, you think, why is it taking this long to do this again if they're going to make that unified panel? But the quick sentence is probably the most notable thing you'll spot straight away.

But there are little changes. Like, I don't even think people have necessarily spoken at length about the new, I mean, there is a new system form, right? The system font looks, I mean, I still don't know how I feel about it. It's growing on me a little bit. It'll take, like, all past change, still take a few days. The home screen, did you get an extra row back? I got an extra row back because I'm five wide. I think you're four wide.

I'm not sure that changes that. Yeah, I keep it default on four. So I don't think I've gained an extra row. No, I may have because one of my widgets actually looks a bit smaller here on my home screen, but I'm indifferent to those kind of changes but I'm more aware of the changes where you can go in and make alterations to say, I don't know, icon size I'd really like to see

but we don't have that yet, right? I can't, do we have shape? No, not in this one by the looks of it. Unless somebody's managed to get it working and could get in contact with us and show us how they did it. But yeah, in the wallpaper and style application, there's a lot of nice little tweaks here.

It looks a lot better. The clock customization is perfect. there. I'm really surprised it's here because I kind of think that's a pixel. Like I thought a lot of the customization stuff is going to be a pixel 10 thing. It's still exclusive or something like that for three months or whatever. Like they debut the latest on the 10 or whatever. So it's nice that we already have it now.

I really like the, I mean, I like the idea of it. I don't like the execution a little bit. I don't know if there's an effects panel where you can kind of add effects to your homes. Have you tried, have you played around with this yet? No, I haven't. So in the wallpaper and style application, there is an option to add, like, weather effects. So local weather effects based on your location. You can choose rain, snow, fog, and sun, I think it is.

It's, I don't know, I don't know where this has come from. This doesn't feel like a Google edition to the phone. But obviously, any kind of subjects of your wallpaper should technically, well, they'll react to the conditions. For instance, when it's snowy, you might have a pet, for instance, that gets. coated in snow. I don't know if that feels in tune with the rest of the clean almost. That's not for me. No, yeah, I've been playing around with it last couple of hours.

And I don't know if it's for me, realistically. They have these options to, and I think this is the closest thing to icon alterations that you can do right now is that you can create like cutouts for your wallpaper. The downside is that the edge detection for the subject is a bit spotty at the best, best of time. So I'd like to see some more like refinement there. where we can maybe make some changes. But yeah, the weather and the weather effects are just,

I'm going to say it, I think they're a bit cringe. I think it just doesn't feel in keeping with the rest of the OS. But I guess if it feels more like a, this is a hard distinction, it feels like a more of a pixel phone feature than an Android feature, but the lines are absolutely very. Yeah, no, true. No, I can understand that.

But yeah, there's some funny things in here that I didn't expect to arrive in this first release, but I guess if it's potentially going to really, release in what September end of August September? Yeah, yeah, around that time. It's going to be fairly, fairly nailed on of what is in it already. But yeah, I think other features that you may be interested in, I guess, there's options to, I mean, quick settings, it's still the biggest one.

How do you feel about the status bar? Yeah, I was literally about to say put the battery in a new icon shape. I'm, I don't know, muscle memory. tells me I don't like it. I don't know what the style they're aiming for is. It's like the 5G logo. It's cartoony. I don't know.

That's taking some time to get used to. There's a bulbousness. I think I'd call it bulbousness to it that need to get used to a bit. the battery and the battery percentage in the battery icon is

yeah I'll get used to the ventry but I'm not crazy about it but compared to one UI 7 it's actually

a battery icon so I'll take it very true but I feel like the sideways icon I don't know is that just if we just Google

just said you know what we're going to follow the industry standard there's an efficiency that's how you get enough space

into the to put this percentage I kind of I kind of wish we could bring back the old icon now. I feel like muscle... If they're going to have remnants of the old, in air quotes, old Android, it would be nice to keep the status bar the way it was.

I know I get that they've updated the font and this is going to sound really disrespectful, but I do get comics' hands vibes from the font a little bit. There's a little bit extra space in, and it kind of fits with the rest of the aesthetic, I guess, but I don't know. I prefer a little bit of a sharper font rather than like these rounded fonts.

and the status bar kind of, to me, signifies that a little bit more. I know why they've changed the Wi-Fi icon to be the way that it is. Because at a glance, you can see I have full strength. I have two strengths. The separators, it's making it. Well, a broad thing about material to expressive is putting things into containers, grouping, that kind of thing. I'm not sure if the Wi-Fi and the cell signals are the best examples of that,

but that's kind of why I'm thinking they put it in its own separate. containers. I kind of already missed the smoothness of the old one, the simple shapes, the, yeah, I just can't, we'll see how a week or eight, I will see how it works, how it fits. I just wish, again, if they're going to add some more customization in there, I don't know why they don't just lift effectively the customization option straight out of Android 11, because you could change the icons slightly, you could change obviously homescreen icons, the battery and Wi-Fi icon,

well, not the battery icon, but the Wi-Fi icons and all that kind of stuff, I think if you had to option, if we're getting so many extra customization options in there, the status bar would be kind of a nice one. I think maybe as well we could, I mean, maybe Google doesn't want to be too technical with it, but I like the fact that on some devices

you can even have download and upload speed tracked in this status bar. But I guess visually, it looks a bit too techy, I guess. Yeah. I mean, overall, I've got to say, I don't think this feels, it seems ridiculous to say, it doesn't feel like techie. Like old Android would feel like it's nerdy. And I don't mean that. That was why I fell in love with pixel.

No, it's absolutely like, hollow was extremely nerdy. It was going for Tron futurism whenever they debuted on the tab with the honeycoat. I forgot the ice cream sandwich, whatever. The Zoom, the motorover Zoom. Yeah, I remember. Sorry, the Zoom tablet. Yeah, but yeah, that was peak futurism. That was straight out of the movie Tron.

I'm pretty sure they had the Android figurine on a light bike. So, yeah, that's how far we've come. But at the same time, it's, you still, as of 12, I kind of still felt that, shades of that. And with this material to expressive, I feel like that's completely gone. It's bubbly. I think that's how it called the entire OS. It feels bubbly.

But yeah, and I like, I kind of like that they're going to lean into this a little bit. I mean, it does feel like the natural progression of material you, I guess, in some respects. I don't know where they can go from this. If they want to do another, if you want to go down another route in future and go and do another redesign in a few years time,

where does it go from here? Does it just get even more bubbly? Or does it go back to the more? Yeah, it's, it's, so in OS redesigns at a high level, I think all OSs need redesigns, let's say five, within five or ten years,

like maybe seven is a good compromise. I think OSs, they need to be refreshed every so often. It's not just redesign for redesign. Say styles change, design languages change, people's perspective, relation to technology changes as they get more literate or not. So I think, yes, but OS changes, they need to happen every so often. And I think what Google is four years out, I think it's a good time for it for this to happen.

and I'm still continuing to refine over the next few years, I'm sure. I mean, one thing I want to talk about a little briefly is at the moment, this is all just OS level, right? So we don't have any applications that really delve into this and kind of tie everything together, you know what I mean? So my thought process is that this is just the beginning. And I guess you kind of said it there. Like if we want, if Google's going to do this every three or four years,

if you have an older device, like the Pixel 6, particularly, because that would, I mean, they've had an extended support window. This is like in some ways you get in a brand new refresh because you've had your phone that feels the exact same since the day you bought it, which is a good thing. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, it's, and the Pixel 6 was so, I match it with a material 3 so closely.

it felt like hardware taking out of the software or vice versa. That was such of a time, even the design language, the physical design language. And I mean, this year or this coming year, we all know if we expect to be able to pixel 10 looks exactly like existing devices. So it's of an era. It's, yeah, it's. I don't think it's too much. Again, they're calling it material to expressive. It's an extension of material three.

So it's not too far departure in that respect, but in other respects, they're really trying bubbly. I just have to keep going back to that. But then bubbly with an element of like I call it, I don't know if anyone out there was a, used to jail break for iPhones back in the day, but there was a theme for a CDA theme called GlassCart.

or GlassCart, I think it was called. I made my jail broken iPod touch look like Windows phone. Okay, well, you probably were in the minority doing that. But yeah, there was a theme back in the day called GlassCart. I think it was called a GlassClaught. And it reminds me very much of that with these glassy elements and blurred elements. And I kind of have an affinity for it, especially when you merge it with these almost like firm pastel colors and stuff like that.

And I genuinely, I'm enjoying it so far. I'm hoping it grows on me more than it already has. I mean, I always like the pixel experience. But I think this is one of the first times in a long time where Google is trying to do something to differentiate themselves from the crowd a little bit. I want to talk about cars in a second. But I think we're right now in the Silicon Valley. We are pretty close to the Apple campus for just because.

And next month, we're going to see a big I-O-W-W-A. re-designed. This is their time for a new design language within that five to ten years, close to the ten years, I think. iOS seven, yeah. I'm curious whether both of these, at a high level, I'm just curious whether they end up converging

visual language-wise, maybe in terms of the glass, in terms of the blur, whether they end up converging and what that says about UI design. and how interaction design and how people expect from the technology these days.

I'm very curious whether iOS is going to look drastically different from this, whether they end up being, sharing some key similarities. I think it's a fantastic point. Because like, it's funny. Like one of the crazier conspiracy theories is that the iPhone will keep its camera always on

and with the blur. So there's all of grass, its upcoming version of iOS apparently and they're going to blur it like we have Android has a dynamic cover but what if iOS has real world color? I mean it's a fantastic

concept. I just don't know if it works in reality especially for a company so in air quotes privacy focused. No, but at the same time like if historically well this has changed recently with call com new year stuff but

A series ships they have so much overhead. Like in the early, like maybe five years ago, like the thing that people always said was that there's so much Google, iOS is doing so much extra animation that Android phones haven't been able to catch up with. Like the fluidity, that's changed now, but I'm kind of wondering if Apple ends up taking a leap fog there and they do something crazy, like something crazy and battery intensive and like real world dynamic color. That's, again, I think everybody in the mobile space should be excited by this redesign and what Apple brings to the table next to the next month to see where all this mobile design stuff is going.

Anyways, tangent aside, colors, they're so vibrant in this one. My Gboard theme, my dynamic color Gboard theme is so stark. I honestly think it's too much for something. some apps, like in Gmail, like, I just use it briefly, but I can't tell, I kind of can't tell what's unread and what's not based on colors alone. I'm working more about the text. So I think we need app updates, and I'm sure they'll come before the pixel, the next pixel, but the colors are so vibrant. Which I think is a good thing, because like you say, if we could do get a convergence of mobile OSes.

I think there's a lot of elements here that do fall under certain... This is more playful. This is... I can already... Versus the current version of iOS, this is already more playful. Which is, I think, is a way that Google can effectively

endear themselves to specific people. I think sometimes you... I mean, especially if you've used an iOS device for a long period of time, that has barely changed, really. I mean, the home screen is the same layout, effectively. And having those options, elsewhere in, I mean, but you can just a quick sentence is good.

Like iOS can theme your home screen, but that's like the extent of customization. On Android, dynamic color themes your apps. That's why it's so important. That's why adoption is so important and providing a consistent experience. If you pick a new dynamic theme color, everything changes.

And that's so underrated. Yeah. I think if anyone out there is any, has any, like, worries about putting this on of the phone? I'd say just go for it. Genuinely, it's the first time, a long time I say go for it.

Yeah, if you have like a second, if you have an old phone, which I know most, well, most people might keep it on their old phone. Well, they also trade it. But yeah, like, if you have an old, a non-primary device,

absolutely put it on, try it on. I'd probably even say if you have a pixel tablet, and try it on. But if you only have a primary device, yes, waiting for beta 2 in a month is wiser.

But this, you're getting a lot and I think it's pretty stable right now. Again, 24 hours will tell you more next week. The only thing I would say is with any beta, still err on the side of caution, but at the same time, I think,

especially because a lot of people have been disappointed with the, what we're going to see is the initial release of Android 16. I think this is, this is effectively the flavor of Android. Most people have wanted to see. And obviously Google did this with Android show. It revealed a lot of the changes that were coming. This is your best way

to test drive what is going to happen with the and air quotes, real Android 16. This is the real To me, this is the real Android 16. Absolutely. I feel like... Understandably, it couldn't get released, or it's not going to get released

at the time that we were hoping for. Android 16th to release next month? I don't know. Like, now that I'm using this full thing, it's pretty feature rich. It's pretty solid at this stage. If we kept the last year's Android cycle. Possibly.

Possibly. But yeah, it's a strange one. It's a strange one. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And I think Google is kind of missing that with the Android, original, with this base Android 16 and the KPL one. So we'll see how it plays out in the coming months. But damn, this would have been a good first impression for Android 16.

Yeah, yeah. It's overshadowed a little bit of IO, though, right? We saw some cool stuff. I, obviously, we're Android guys anyway, so we're going to talk about Android. But we saw some really interesting stuff with Gemini yesterday that I think. A lot of stuff that's all the even about. I'd say. Again, we'll talk about like a $250 AI, Google AI Ultra.

We'll talk about next week because that's a lot and we need to play around with it. But yeah, the Gemini app, I think what I was at a high level, what I was working for was them to give a vision and to put some examples behind personal, proactive and powerful. And I think the one I'm to focus on immediately is proactive. They mentioned an example. This is just an example. This is not alive yet. But they mentioned Gemini seeing your Google calendar, seeing your Google calendar and seeing that you have an upcoming test.

And then Gemini making a study guide for you. That is the kind of proactiveness that we've been waiting for ages. And if Gemini is what allows that, that's going to be fantastic. That's going to be a powerful intelligence add to Android. I'm excited by some of the Gemini stuff, which I didn't think I would be. In terms of like the opportunity to have more like astrapowered stuff in the real world is just, that makes the most sense. Phone control. They have a, okay, so Project Asthma is their research name for technology making a universal AI assistant.

And a key part of that, a last year we got to talkative aspects to it, camera input, multimodial. And this year, we're getting agent use cases, computer use, or in this case, smartphone use. We saw a two-minute demo of Astra being able to navigate PDFs, being able to browse YouTube, being able to place phone calls, just really putting everything that Google has been doing for the past few years together. And I kind of thought you'd see that already. But if we look at the timescale, last year we got the Asthma stuff. the live camera input. It launched in Gemini Live

earlier this year. Yeah, April. April, yeah. Stable and all that. Oh, yeah, March. It got announced at MWC, whatever. So I think we're on a sim, hopefully, fingers crossed during a similar time scale.

I do feel like this kind of level of control might be taken a little bit longer than camera input, but this is such an exciting roadmap. I think it's the, I mean, it's the, I mean, it is the future phones, right? Whether or not people are going to use it, I'm not really sure. I think the use case that they had was obviously very controlled demo, and it looked very, very impressive. And I feel like when I've been using Astro in the real world,

like I've been using it weirdly. So I saw some fruit in the trees around here. I'm not from California. I don't know what fruit grows in the trees. And I had a feeling it. It was a pomello fruit. And I was like, okay, how do I find this out? Do I use, take a picture?

Or do you know what? I'll just use Astra. It absolutely nailed it. Like simple things like that. It's kind of cool for. But this concept of having your phone fully controllable with input from Gemini, Astra, as well at the same time. And then having contextual awareness of what you're currently doing in the tasks that you're doing.

It's just that is impressive to me. Will I use it every single day? Probably not. And obviously this was a specific use case. If you've not seen the trailer for this, I'll try and get someone to put it in the show notes. But it's like a three-minute demo on about three-minute demo and a young guy fixing his bike.

And even just finding the page in a PDF, like a 45-page PDF, like that to me would be the ultimate time. You know, when you're doing troubleshoot this stuff. So that kind of stuff I find really interesting. As for the rest of the stuff, again, these are those things that you have to test in the real world. Sometimes it gets scaled back, but I do think Gemini Alive Astro Video has been fairly close. It's so natural. It's like, if it's like asking a friend next to you what this is. They had a very funny demo about,

I remember the Gemini Live demo asking incorrect things. Yeah, that was pretty cool. That was a funny I.O. moment. Yeah. I think, I think I.O. in general, though, like I said, There's a lot of stuff that we can't really cover here in one podcast. We'd have our own keynote effectively. There's a lot of information on website, all these little mini announcements, big announcements, stuff that you may have slipped through the gaps. And we're going to delve into that in the next 24, 48 hours anyway here.

We still have one day left. We're actually still technically on day two of IO. So expect us to hear and see more in the next few days. Yeah, I've thoroughly enjoyed having such a big Android release at I.O. Um, because usually we have a, we're waiting for, we're at the end of the phase, right? We're at the end of the phase and everything's almost behind us. Whereas now with the Android 16 QPR one, it feels like everything's in front of us. We've had an opportunity, you get your opportunity now to dive into a really, really big update.

And, um, yeah, I think you should definitely go out and try it for yourself if you're able to do so. It's well worth it. And especially like I say, if you have an older device, pixel six, pixel seven, this is a, this is a new lease of life on an older phone. Um, yeah. And I'm excited. to see what we see today. And thanks to join us. Yeah, it's great to be doing a podcast in the same room for the first time.

It's a different dynamic. Which is a definitely different dynamic. Making eye contact on a video is very, very different to making eye contact in real life. So, yeah, hopefully this has come across on the pod. But yeah, thanks guys for listening. It's always, always good to chat with, we have no, when we're talking about Android. I think we get into it and probably more so than anyone. But yeah, thanks to join us on pixelated.

And we will talk more. everything, I. Everything in between next week. Bye.