Pixelated - Pixelated 057: All About Pixel 10

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

Welcome to episode 57 of Pixelated, a podcast by 9to5Google. This week, we talk all about the Pixel 10. Subscribe YouTube Podcasts Pocket Casts Spotify Apple Podcasts Overcast Hosts Abner Li Damien Wilde Read more Pixel 10 ‘Ask more of your phone’ ad leaks as it’s being filmed [Gallery] Pixel 10 and 10 Pro leak reveals possible colors, like blue, yellow, and green Pixel 10 Pro prototype leaks with possibly thicker camera bar, other tweaks [Gallery] Listen to more 9to5 Podcasts 9to5Mac Happy Hour Electrek The Buzz Podcast Space Explored Rapid Unscheduled Discussions Feedback? Drop us a line at [e-mail], leave a comment on the post, or to our producer.

So, Abner, we've had a really good look at the upcoming Pixel 10. I mean, it's insane to think that we get these looks ahead of time more so than any of the smartphone model. But yeah, Pixel 10, we've seen some prototypes leak. We've seen a storyboard leak in an ad. Like, let's just get into it. Let's just get into Pixel 10. Yeah, so I think that's start with the storyboard, which is, I think, the wildest way a pixel

has leaked before. So somewhere in Canada, this person just saw a production crew filming an ad for the pixel 10. We see a phone attached to a pretty intensive rig and

it looks like the pixel 9. You can't really tell from like seeing the physical phone. but lo and behold, there are storyboards, actual storyboards, outlining the direction of the ad, and it clearly says pixel 10 with, what is it, ask more of your phone tagline, which is just wild.

I think it's strange that someone could just almost saunter into a production, but I guess that's the, that is one of the biggest risks, isn't it, of filming anything in public, I know from experience we were at IOD the week, and you sometimes have people stumble across things that you're filming, which is absolutely fine. But in this instance, this is supposed to be a device that isn't revealed for a few months, and we're getting to see the most behind-the-scenes thing I think we've ever seen.

Like, one of the things that kind of, I think, struck me straight away when you look at these storyboards is I think there's one of the frames, or there's like a gap in the frames that it says having a lilac. I wonder if that alludes to the color that we see here, because, I mean, it's difficult to tell, isn't it? it in the images. This was like, what, a week ago? I mean, sometimes, what do we think it could be? Obsidian? Yeah, it's a strange one from the images. Personally, I'm not so sure what color it could be. I mean, like I say, sunlight can obscure anything, but I think just the way the Google handles leaks

in general is different to anyone else, isn't it, in some respects? Because these things just kind of like seem to appear, it's almost like there is, it's not no conscious effort, it's just that people seem to find a way into these things a little bit. In terms of the same, true. Yeah, like you were alluding to, like it's easy to stumble when you're shooting in public,

but at the same time, it seems like Apple, there's all the event shooting in San Francisco these days, and they never, I'm pretty sure they once they walked off an entire pier to shoot. So, yes, it's, these people stumble into shoots, into shoots, where at the same time this felt particularly bad and ridiculous,

and you shouldn't have a storyboard out in public where anybody can see it. Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised I didn't have it on an iPad or something, or a pixel tablet, what it should have been, but yeah. I never know. At the same time, at the same time, it's interesting. I like, I love to know the thought process behind things and why ads are a certain way,

and just looking at it, it's, I mean, obviously, the phone is, let's argue that the phone is the main thing, but I think for us it's more a case of we know what it's going to look like. Previously, because I've kind of almost proved that, and this as well has proved that it's, it's probably just going to be the, it's a pixel 9 plus, isn't it? Or the pixel 9S. Yeah. Which is fine. I mean, I don't think, I don't think it makes sense for Google to just keep rejigging the design every year. And if we settle on something that works and resonates with people.

The fact that they can stick to design is a sign of growth and maturity. It's, they found the quote unquote winning design and they're happy to refine. I hope build quality is the name of the game this year in regards to buttons and build tolerances and whatnot. But yeah, it looks the same, but we had a, well, let's touch on, what do you think of this tagline?

Ask more of your phone, was it? I mean, obviously that clearly alludes to some things that we may have seen at I oh but I I I get that yeah I mean I guess I guess I guess I guess this could be the whole thing of um of of a of really really integrating Gemini this next time but I guess I guess I'm not I'm not gonna make too much speculation on that because I don't really know what what what Gemini functionality they're gonna use to differentiate this I imagine it's just gonna be like you say multi modality a little bit like they have on the Samsung but that's

kind of a given I'm surprised I haven't added that already but yeah I don't think the Astra phone control stuff, they show that if I.O. is ready. By all accounts, the Gemini Rye being able to access Keep, calendar maps and tasks. I think that's coming way before, you know, in a few weeks, way before the event.

So we'll see if there's any more pixel-specific stuff that's more exclusive along the veins of pixel screenshots. We'll see whether that comes. but yeah, I think the Astor phone can store stuff is still within the next year, but I doubt I hope if they use the next pixel, but I doubt we'll have that in two or so months. Yeah, for me, I feel like the Astra thing would be the biggest selling point for a Pixel 10. If you're a Pixel 9 owner, for instance,

and it becomes something that is potentially going to be a key selling point. But like you say, we don't think it's going to be available for a while. I mean, it doesn't give, to be fair, to be fair to this person stumbling into a video shoot, we get a little bit of a peek behind the curtain on the ad. But at the end of the day, we only really get to see the design and the tagline. So there isn't anything, I would say major compared to, say, for instance, if it was a full device and it has all of the functionality baked in and they're testing it in front of him or the person. I think it was a guy, right?

So in some respects, I guess it isn't as bad as it could have been. I don't know. Maybe I'm diminishing the way that this has leaked and this league happening, if that makes sense. But I do think maybe, depending on where we is in Canada, do we get an indication of where it wasn't, I'm guessing they didn't docks themselves. But if it's in, like, I guess, a rural area where there's not that many people or it's a scenic. It's a beach or something like that, I think. Okay. So if it's, I mean, I mean, I, I mean, I, what?

what little I know of Canada is it, it's absolutely ginormous. So this, the kind of the ability to hit, this is almost like two comics, two comets hitting at the same time, isn't it? Like they've managed to cross paths. He's managed to see a Google team or an external team doing this ad for Google. Like, it's the perfect storm, is it? I mean, at the end of the day, leaks happen. This has happened in a way that at least confirms to us that Google puts a lot of effort

into their ads, which, again, we've known from seeing them anyway in like kind of launch events, pre-launch events, post. They do a lot. I like Google's ads. I think they're pretty well thought out. They're really well produced. And for me, as someone who makes videos, I'm really interested to see the process. I feel like they're firmly middle. They're good standard ads. I just, I don't know, I don't think there's anything unique going on. Not that I've seen it from anybody else in the past few years, but maybe that affects the CIFRONs, but I don't know.

I'd love like a really good novel ad that captures all the AI use cases. It captures something, I don't know, unique. Yeah. Do we think we're going to see that? Do you not think they'll just do demos on stage? It gives you a bit an indication of that. I know it's on Rails. Yeah, it's on Rails, but just ads just, I don't know.

I just like, when was the last time people talked about a phone ad? I really, that's, I guess, I have a high expectation. But yeah, that's the thing I'm kind of looking for. But yeah, that was the ad. And I feel like some people from that really far away telephoto storyboard shot, they started to pick up on some changes to the design. And when we had the prototype week earlier this week, we got a much better idea.

about it. So again, it works the same. The differences that we know are the bottom, the bottom edge. It goes back to dual speaker grid. Well, two dual cutouts franking the USBC port. One is the bottom firing speaker. The other presumably just covers the microphone hole since there's in a separate one. The SIM card reader slot has been moved to the top edge where there's currently the

antenna cut out. It's a really big, like half-width sim card slot, which I don't know why that's happening. Maybe that's because it was an early prototype. We'll see. To my eye, to more than few people's eyes, the camera bar looks thicker, just the hair thicker. And I feel like that's because the phone is a little bit thinner. But yeah, I think they're playing. around the dimensions a bit. I mean, if the camera looks, if the camera is thicker and we don't get any changes

and they make the phone thinner, do you think Google would go ahead and do you know, like, we're going to put some new battery tech in it and say we'll go for a silicon carbon battery because obviously they can technically be smaller and have high capacity. There's no rumors of that, right?

There's no rumors and I think we're not quite there yet. Do you don't know him there yet? For Google to do it. Yeah. I'm disappointed him. So yeah, the thickness, I do have to admit that I thought the phone was a little bit on a thick side, just a little bit. But then again, I've been using the 9A for however long, and it's been, it is thicker and I haven't noticed. But yeah, so yeah, a little bit thinner.

They're playing around with the camera bar. So I guess that means the cases won't fit again if it isn't the thinner, which is unfortunate. Yeah, that is a shit. I feel like that's a bit of a... I don't want to say your own goal. I mean, it kind of is, actually. No, do you know what? I'm going to say it.

I think it's a little bit of an own goal because obviously if Google has this plan to be more... So what are they calling it? Like, sustainable? I mean, it isn't, is it because you're still making... You're technically making products every year, so it's not really sustainable. But yeah, that's by the buy.

We're getting to down a different road with that one. And I could talk about that all day. But I feel like if you're going to tout the sustainability of your device lineup, You surely have to, and if it is the same, let's just call it the same design. I just think it makes sense for them to be like, do you know what? You can use the original cases from the Pixel 9 series with this. We'll have some new colors available so that Pixel 9 owners, you can pick up some new colors.

Maybe they'll do, I don't know why they don't partner with more brands and do like, like case, official cases in say, I don't know, sports teams. They're doing with Liverpool. They're doing with Arsenal. Why not make cases? those people. Like, I think it's such good cases. It's underrated the variety that they offer on their website.

Yeah, I just think that this, that, that, I hope we're both wrong. Obviously, this being a prototype, it could mean that they just, they were playing around with the design a little bit. And it is, and it is just a problem with the photo that was taken. They're never quite, they're never quite crystal clear, are they? The images that get shared with these devices, I guess it's quick snap throw it in your pocket or give it back to whoever's had it. I am hoping that all the case lineups fits

because I think that would just be really nice for anyone who goes out and wants to purchase them. But one thing I kind of, I'm spotting at the images I'm looking at them right now as I'm talking to you is does it look to you like the camera glass is slightly bigger and that there's slightly smaller... Yes, that's the first thing I notice. I don't know why they tweak that.

Yeah, it's just... go, there's just a swiver of metal now and you're looking at it head-on versus the more sizable react today. I don't know what that's about, but minor change, I guess. Yeah, and the thermometer, I guess, cut out, the thermometer, I don't know what it would be. I was going to call it a dial, it's not a dial, is it? That's white in this prototype, as opposed to the, I believe it's like a browny black color, like glass coating. like I don't know me maybe maybe that gets I'm guessing they're keeping that around for a little while longer the temperature sensor so I guess that might just be a visual change to help differentiate them so that's kind of nice at least you know that there there's some changes there overall like I mean what it's by the numbers isn't it that the the design it still has those glossy side rails I don't know how you feel about that personally I'm not a huge fan because I've already scratched the living hell out of my Pixson 9 Proxel even when it's I'm having it in a case.

I kind of hoped they would have ditched that given the camera bar as like a matte metal colour and it would have just tied it all together. But I guess that's how they're differentiating the 9 and the 10 and the 10 Pro series and maybe the 10A whenever that arrives. Like what do we, I mean in terms of the design, we haven't really learned a great deal, have we? It's more the case of what was on this prototype device, right? There was a few bits of information about what is running.

the configuration and all that kind of stuff? Yeah, the core config 152 call account. Still running a XNL modem versus that media tech rumor that we got years last year. But yeah, it's all about the tensor. Again, we know the design. We basically know the design. We're waiting for what kind of performance. gains or not

this tensor, this TSM custom built chip rings and the software and we need to know how they differentiate the software which I think those will be the two big ten poles for at least the pros line up this year

what new software features and what's the chip and how much is Google to talk about that chip which they historically don't really but maybe this year is an exception I would like them to talk about the I think that's the biggest problem, I think, and I know I've alluded to it in a podcast previously,

is that it's one of the hardest things to kind of recommend a pixel device, to put people who want power under the hood. I think this is the first year in a long time where I personally have someone who's used pixel since at least a pixel 3 every single day, and I obviously have a backup sim, and I use the pro fold at the moment, and I used that while I was at I. So, like, I think there is a noticeable difference.

There is a noticeable uplifting performance if you go for a snapdragging device. So I do think Google, I understand that they don't want to address that and be like, hey, we don't want to compare ourselves to other devices. It's all about the experience. I think there's got to come a point when they have to address it a little bit and be like, hey, we have had a performance uplift now. There was no mention in this league about the storage type. again, I'm still, just put UFS 4.0 storage in it and just give yourself a little bit more legroom. Make your case for that.

What's, why do you want that? So with UFS 3.1, obviously, your read and write speeds are, I don't quote me on this. I'm not, they're a lot lower. I don't want to give back exact figures because I can't remember them off the top of my head. But with UFS. 4.0 storage, over time, what happens is, it's obviously when you get those bigger updates and you're having those read and write calls to your, to storage, whatever it is, you will see that over time. You will see the slowdown, for instance.

If you go pick up a pixel 4, they're using UFS 2.1, I think. Like, it's not as bad as it could be, but the performance is slow compared to a modern device. Like certain things take a long time to load. You will see pages load slower because of six page in them to storage and stuff. Like having that UFS 4.0 storage would make a difference

in terms of like upload times. It just makes sense and obviously you can then use virtual memory with a faster onboard storage and there's less of a problem with that like you can have virtual memory like you can on Samsung devices and add 20

in the air quotes 24 gigabytes of RAM versus the 16 that it comes with or might have been 12 I just think for longevity it makes sense to do that again it all for me it all boils down to sustainability if you're going to support your devices for seven years I really do think you should put in as much high-end components so that the risk of failure is lower, if that makes sense. So it seems like a really nerdy thing to ask for, but in terms of the experience people

are going to have, I think UFS 4.0 is a must for me. And I was critical of it last year with the 9 series. Yes, day-to-day you might not notice that much because of the optimizations that Google can make that other brands potentially can't. But why not? You can optimise and have that superfast storage and make. the latest mobile RAM configs, it's a no-brainer, especially if the chip isn't, the CPU isn't necessarily the fastest, bring everything up to the level and it all falls into

place, I think. But yeah, that's a nerdy thing to complain about. No, it's absolutely fair. If they're making the chip upgrade, I think they should make a big deal about everything else too. So yeah, that's the anything else from the prototype? I believe there was one thing that looked weird is that it showed on one of the,

I think it was one of the applications he used to test it, something it was showing as a 5 nanometer chip, but we know that it's going to be built using a 3 nanometer process, which. So yeah, grain of salt on some of these specs. Yeah, a grain of salt with every specification, that even the ones that we just talked about, like it's just the way it is with pre-release information.

You kind of have to go through it with a fine two. comb. But I think, I think, like with any prototypes that come out, you just get a snapshot of it, right? And for me, just looking, going back to design for a second, to me, it looks like the bezels look a little bit bigger. I don't know why. Maybe it's just the angle of taking the photo and maybe I'm not used to dark mode, because I'm a hardcore light, light mode. Madness. I know. I like the ice-seerian brightness. I know, bring on the glasses is what I say. Destroy my eyesight. But yeah, it's, it's, you I always find it fascinating

because how do these things kind of fall into these people's hands? Like there must come a point in which that all devices are accounted for, even prototypes. So some must slip the net somehow in a factory somewhere. Yeah, it's, I don't know, we're so deep into the Google world that maybe we're so attuned to when this happens. I'm not sure.

Mm-hmm. There should really be an objective. We should take a look at an objective count of pixel weeks compared to everything else one of these days. But yeah, it's what happens with pixel. It's synonymous and it's, well, 10 years in. I guess we'll see what the next 10 years bring. So colors, we got some colors.

Yeah, what do you think of the colors? Just going back to the previous one, I think that the one that leaked on a storyboard looked iris to me. look, didn't look more like like kind of a really, really light blue. Yeah, to my eye, it looks a really, really light blue. It might just be my displays that I've looked at it, but like what are we looking at in terms of the, the color lineup for this new series? Because this is one that is new to me as we're recording this podcast. Yeah, so it's, we're sticking with, there'll be a black phone. So I guess the highest level is that

it's the fun colors, uh, once again, on the base. model. A lemon cello, I believe, that's either a yellow or lemon glass. We have the standard black. Iris from the Pixel 9A is making its way.

What was the other one? Oh, a light, some kind of light bluey color, I guess. Yeah, which we'll see how it differentiates from iris, because iris is pretty, iris could be bolder. All of these colors, it could

be bolder. But yeah, there's no traditional white, which is whatever. But yeah, it's fun cows on the base phone. What's the 10 pro looking like? The 10 pro, I believe, is, so we have the obsidian, which I guess, classic. I'm kind of my opinion on an obsidian colors change. Anyway, I digress. We have a green. I think we don't know the exact names for these yet. There's going to be a gray. I believe the leak calls it sterling, which is a really, really, cool name for grey, I must admit. And there is going to be a porcelain version of the Tempro

and Tempro Acceler, according to this. Like, how does green differentiate from lemon grass, limoncello, whatever they want to call it? Like, is it going to be a deeper, like, almost like a Royal Green, like a British racing green? I would... Because the current one right now, it's

grey. It's in most lighting conditions. It's grey. It's really annoying. Yeah, I mean, if I'm being put it to honestly, I regret going for the hazel color, to be honest with it. It is great. I kind of wish I'd have gone for the porcelain. The porcelain looks incredible in person. Like, does Google need to have one standout color like they used to? I don't know. I would kind of like to see if this green is going to be more to the mint, which was also looked like a really, really pale white. I love

my mint pixelate pro. I think it might be one of my favorite colors of a phone because it has like, it's almost like dual tone. I love it. It's fantastic. I want to see more of that. have they played it safe with two colours here that are a bit more in air quotes professional like they've stuck to professional colours like green and grey are kind of I guess are the kind of colours that you'd see in in an office environment like a professional setting maybe more so than like a a bay maybe they I'm kind of sad I think I feel like they could have gone down that bay route and done a bit more of that colour like just stick to stick to really insane insane um

and have one that stands out above the rest. Like, I loved the Bay 8 Pro. Oh, it was, that was the best that we've had. It's just, it's striking. I wanted to like the mint, but as you said, it was pretty whatever. Yeah, so I guess it's more broadly. It's Google's their desire to stick to,

I don't think it makes sense. I just think they should all have fun colors. their glossy side veils, they're insistent on that. It's, okay, I guess it objectively does look a little bit more premium, like jewelry, but it's not, it doesn't make a world of difference and they should just stick with the practical thing

and it's probably cheaper too, not have to shine the metal. The mat finished is a number of reasons why they should just drop that effect, that appearance of bug should, and jewelry and whatnot. But yeah, it's the fun colors. It's, I don't know, again,

I don't know, personally speaking, this three camera on the base 10, even if it's the telephoto, it's a bit more minimal. I'm kind of tempted by that this year, the first time, seeing how well the 9A did on me and how I previously used a pixel 8.

Well, we'll see whether I do 10 or 10 pro this year. I, you know, that, I never even thought by until you just said it there. I think that that probably does bring, not bring it. It kind of like, it highlights these colors, it highlights the color choices for the base model. Like the base model is almost always, in theory anyway. I think with pixel, it's the other way around. But when you look at the iPhone lineup, the base model tends to sell more than the pro and pro max versions.

Like, they tend to be over time the biggest sellers. So I do wonder if that is a conscious decision by Google. to make those a bit more colorful because they know that in terms of entry pricing, accessibility, those, I mean, it's saying there's going to be four according to this initial leak and don't have any reason to doubt it at this point in time. To have your most colorful options in the base model might be a stroke of genius. Like, they're going to be, they're going to stand out among the crowd of, like, white and black phones.

Like they have probably of the last few years, I think that's one of the reasons why I love than the A series. They've always just said, well, let's just go for it. Balls to the wall. Let's do some insane colours. And if they stick, they stick. If they don't, like, every time I go, every time I look at my shelf and I see the coral 7a,

I'm like, God, imagine if they did that for a top tier phone. Imagine they did that, even for the base model 10, I would, I'd snap that up in an instant. I think, I mean, there's another question, isn't there? People throw their phones in cases. Like, we're probably in the minority that we'd, don't always have a phone in a case. So does it matter that much?

But with those colour match official cases, there's more reason to do so, isn't there? Like, they are very, very good now. I don't know. It raises questions as well of what they're going to do with the Pixel Watch 4. Are we on a Pixel Watch 4 already? Crikey.

Yeah, crazy. Are they going to do colour matches for the base model, maybe with the 41 and then slightly different for the 45? Are they going to try and separate it like that? I don't know. like what your initial thought which is a one that strike I mean I say strikes it we haven't seen them

but in terms of just naming of the colours or theories of the colours which do you think is the one that you would go for regardless of size shape whatever it is it's probably the blue one I'm very curious what that but the brew on the base 10 would end up being

but yeah that's my pick I guess I just if I'm doing the pro I'll just get whichever has the most color I'm not sold on black white is we'll see

it looks based it always ends up looking beige to me so that's my thing but yeah it's the colors and like again with the phones working the same the colors are going to play an outsized role I think I know how

trivial that might be to some people but it's these colours. It's the main difference. Yeah, you know, that is a really, really good point. Like, you go and you go into the carrier store, like I know there's not that many of them in the UK anymore, but you go into a shop and I know that people still buy by their phones from bricks and water stores here anyway.

And you see the week before you're going and you're looking at a device, maybe your contracts coming up, your sell plans end in, and you see the pixel 9 on the stand and you see the color options there and then a week late they're like oh come back to be fair not all salesmen are like this but they might be like wait a few weeks we'll have deals on the

brand new pixel 10 and you go back in and they all look the exact same and it's hardly differentiation in color you go like why the hell did I wait for this and you just go and get a pixel 9 because you're going to save yourself a packet but I think the pixel 10 does need to differentiate itself at least in some

visual way I know that Yeah, the SIM tray at the top, which, I mean, personally, I prefer the top or the bottom. I don't like it on the sides. It breaks the lines of the phone. I don't really like that. But if that's the only differentiator and maybe a few tweaks to the camera bar, that's probably not going to be enough. So, yeah, the colours have got to stand out.

They have to. For me, anyway, maybe we're being a bit too in the weeds with it. This is like inside baseball. But, like, it makes a difference. I think that's how you differentiate your phone nowadays. Huawei did it years ago with their two-tone colors. they were the first to kind of do that and really make that popular

and I think that resonates to people and a lot of people still love the panda pixel 2 XL so I think the colour science and the colour theory of smartphones it does it does endeared devices to people they can put up with problems if they have like a you know like a I guess love for the design and if they're going to stay the same

I think you've got to make the changes that way So in terms, like, colors out of the way, we've done, we covered them to death now. In terms of the, um, the launch window,

like we were kind of, it was kind of obvious it was going to be in this August launch period. We think that that's what Google's going to do in future. Kind of get ahead of the competition, if that makes sense, get things out there. But recently has shown that it could be a little bit, tiny bit later than last year.

Like what are we thinking in terms of this potential leak in this point? Yeah. In general, Google is sticking, to the August timeline, which, yeah, accelerated. Let's go with that. A week, mid-August, around there anyways, it's, yeah, it's a good spot for any company. Like, Samsung goes a month before Google gets to go before the iPhone. It's, this should have happened sooner, just taking a spot to avoid the wall,

to take advantage of the wall and avoid the iPhone crush. in September. So this is still a good spot and Google seems to still like it. And yeah, it's I hope everything launches on the same day like last year. You can give them that because they went a few months early. But I hope this year all the phones launched the same day. I hope the Pixar watch also ends up going on sale the same day too. It's just a much cleaner than last year was just messy. If you need to consult a list to see when everything is launching, I think you've gone a bit too far. But again, we'll give them that because they moved it up last year. But this time, I think they need to go to standard. Everything's available today, one day.

Yeah, I think that makes sense. I mean, what we're looking at, apparently, what August 13th was touted, which is the exact same day as it launched last year. And then I think it was available the week after the August the 20th maybe or was it around about the the 22nd I think I'm not actually sure I'm trying to remember off the top of my head but then some are reporting that it's potentially going to be August 20th so a week later when they launched a products and then a week after so the very very last week of of August like um yeah I'm I think it makes sense I think it makes huge sense for Google to stick to this thing we we thought that we're going to do that anyway I mean the only confusing thing I don't want to ask before we kind of like say our piece and

head our separate ways for the week. Do you think that the pixel 10 will launch, and obviously if it is that end of August window, we're going to have like a little time period where Android 16 QPR 1 is not ready for the masses. It's not going to ready for the previous generations because of the usual pixel feature drop timeline. Do you think that the pixel 10 launches with that with its own little bit of exclusivity? Like if it does come, it does coming the same time frame as last year. Like it's going to have a couple of weeks potentially where... No, I feel like it's not that a few weeks.

It'll debut the Gemini... It'll debut the material express... Meteor tree expressive. It'll have... I think the design will be available for everybody in a few weeks after the Pixel 10. I'm sure there will be some exclusive features that stay there for maybe until the end of the year.

it will see if anything comes to the Pixel 9. That's, I think, for longevity reasons, if Google improved how they brought back features to all the phones, especially on the AI front, I do get it's difficult and highly hardware dependent. That would be a nice change. I would love to see that. Yeah, I mean, hey, it's Pixel 10.

It's Pixel in general. We're expecting lots more things to kind of happen over the next few weeks. don't, what I'm trying to say is, probably expect more leaks. Like, we're kind of like poised and ready and almost prepared. We're like a spider, waiting to pounce. It's like, this is what happens with pixel devices in general.

It happens with a lot of Google devices anyway, but hey, it is what it is. It's always interesting. We love talking about it. We know you want to hear about Pixel 10. I know there's a lot of you out there that might be looking and thinking, is it going to be worth an upgrade for the Pixel 9?

I would say no, even now, unless there's some huge major performance leaps but yeah it's it's shaping it's shaping up to be an interesting device because obviously there's going to be so many roads that it's retreading if that makes sense and then it could set off on its own path with some of the improvements it's made

I'm excited I'm actually excited again I was kind of a little bit down on the dumps with it with the fact that it was not going to be many hardware changes but now I kind of see it for what it is and yeah I'm excited to see what happens maybe we'll learn some more about the new the foldables and the watches in the next few weeks I mean, it kind of is how it happens.

You get a big deluge, right? But yeah, we will obviously be first to let you know when we hear official things when made by Google, potentially if it is when this supposed leak is saying that it is. Yeah, we'll be in there in person and bring you all the information about the pixel 10 officially. Yeah, thanks for joining me today. Abna, I know it's a lot to talk about it.

It's a lot to digress, isn't it? It's a lot to kind of digest and work through. but pixel 10 we love talking about it and thanks for listening next week bye