Planet Money - FTX and the Serengeti of bankruptcy
Episode Date: April 19, 2024For the last year and a half, the story of FTX has focused largely on the crimes and punishment of Sam Bankman-Fried. But in the background, the actual customers he left behind have been caught in a f...inancial feeding frenzy over the remains of the company. On today's show, we do a deep dive into the anatomy of the FTX bankruptcy. We meet the vulture investors who make markets out of risky debt, and hear how customers fare in the secretive world of bankruptcy claims trading. This episode was hosted by Alexi Horowitz-Ghazi and Amanda Aronczyk. It was produced by James Sneed and Sam Yellowhorse Kesler. It was edited by Jess Jiang, and fact-checked by Sierra Jaurez. It was engineered by TK. Alex Goldmark is Planet Money's executive producer. Help support Planet Money and get bonus episodes by subscribing to Planet Money+ in Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org/planetmoney.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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These days, when most people hear about the cryptocurrency exchange FTX, they think of
one of the great financial meltdowns of the 21st century.
But there is this huge other part of the story, about the obscure corner of the
financial world that feeds off of disasters like this. To tell that story, we're going to start
with someone named Bhagamshi Kanagundla. In early 2022, he had just opened up an account with FTX.
The platform was legit. It was really easy to follow, really easy to do stuff. Your transaction
fee was very low.
I mean, it was great.
Bagumshi had found out about the platform
the way a lot of people did,
through a Super Bowl ad starring comedian Larry David.
It's FTX.
It's a safe and easy way to get into crypto.
Eh, I don't think so.
And I'm never wrong about this stuff.
I was like, oh man, Larry David's hilarious.
Yeah, who doesn't love Larry?
Exactly, exactly. I mean, come on. But Gumshi works in IT and he is a big believer in blockchain technology.
But he says for investing, he just wanted an easy way to buy and sell crypto without having to deal
with the blockchain stuff himself. Over six months or so, but Gumshi built up over $200,000 worth of Bitcoin and Ether and other crypto
in his FTX account. And then one day in early November, he started to hear some unsettling
news.
Chaos in the cryptocurrency market. FTX, one of the biggest players in the digital money
markets, is now on the verge of bankruptcy.
Over the weekend, speculation rose about the solvency of FTX.
Calling into question whether this was all house of cards.
For several days now, cryptocurrencies have been in a free fall.
When you use the word collapse in the financial world, you're talking really serious stuff.
All of a sudden, there are allegations that FTX's founder, Sam Bankman Fried, and his
colleagues, may have been using FTX customer deposits, the money that people like Bagumshi
had put on the platform, to
make risky investments.
Now there seem to be billions of dollars missing from the company's books.
I was just like, oh my God, this looks like it's a Ponzi or something in my head.
I was thinking at that point you were like, this smells like foul play.
This smells really, really bad.
But I'm she started trying to get his money out of FTX,
along with a ton of other people.
But then the company stopped allowing customer withdrawals altogether.
And just nine days after all of this started,
Sam Bankman Fried signed over his control of the company
to a new emergency CEO,
who almost immediately filed for bankruptcy.
Do you remember where you were when you heard that they were declaring bankruptcy?
I was in the gym working out and I was just like so depressed.
So then I worked out even harder that day.
You got to make your gain somehow.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It was a very, very sad workout day.
But Gumshi had managed to get some 40 or $50,000 worth of
crypto out of FDX before his account got frozen. But he still
had more than $150,000 locked up inside. It seemed to be gum. She
that FDX was going down in flames, and that it was
bringing the crypto market down with it.
I was just like, Oh, my god, I think I think I'm going to lose
everything.
For Begumshi, his FTX holdings were starting to feel something like toxic assets.
They seemed like they might be worthless.
At that time, I was in the lowest point of my life.
And I was just thinking to myself, what the hell can I do with these toxic assets?
I had no clue what to do with them.
So he starts poking around the internet
for a way to get any sort of value out of his frozen FTX
account when he stumbles across this online marketplace called
Exclaim.
He gets on the phone with someone from Exclaim
who explains the new situation.
Now that FTX has declared bankruptcy,
Bagumshi owns a bankruptcy claim. Basically, an IOU that FTX is declared bankruptcy, Bagumshi owns a bankruptcy claim,
basically an IOU that FTX is obligated to pay him back
if and when they can recover enough
of the missing money to do so.
And then the agent explains,
Bagumshi can actually sell that IOU.
I was just like, wait,
there's a way to sell this toxic asset?
I was like, I was in disbelief.
Hello and welcome to Planet Money.
I'm Alexi Horowitz-Ghazi. And I'm like, I was in disbelief. Hello and welcome to Planet Money.
I'm Alexi Horowitz-Ghazi.
And I'm Amanda Oranchik.
For the last year and a half,
the story of FTX has focused largely on the crimes
and punishment of Sam Bankman-Freed.
But in the background, the actual customers he left behind
have been caught in this financial feeding frenzy
over the remains of the company.
Today on the show, an anatomy of the FTX bankruptcy.
We dive into that feeding frenzy to meet the vulture investors who
make markets out of risky debt and hear how customers like Bagumshi
navigate the murky world of bankruptcy claims trading.
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Here is the crux of what went wrong at FTX.
When FTX customers thought they were buying,
say, one Bitcoin, it turns out FTX wasn't always buying
one Bitcoin and setting it aside for them.
Sometimes they were using that customer money
to make risky investments.
And when people found out and customers started rushing to withdraw their crypto, FTX did
not have enough.
It was like a run on the bank if the bank were unregulated and without government protections.
And so in November of 2022, embattled FTX founder Sam Bankman Fried signed the company
over to a new emergency CEO, man named John
Ray. John Ray has shepherded several distressed companies through bankruptcy before, most
famously Enron. And almost immediately after taking over, FTX filed for bankruptcy. So
to understand this new world FTX was entering, we called up Adam Levitan, a bankruptcy scholar
at Georgetown Law.
What do you think separates the bankruptcy nerds from the rest of us?
I think we're the folks who always bring an umbrella to a picnic.
We're always thinking about how things could go wrong and what would happen if they go
wrong.
Adam explains the modern bankruptcy system in the US goes back to the late 1970s.
Before that, most of the time, if a company reached the point
where it no longer had enough money to pay its debts,
it could either try to get acquired,
or it would generally be liquidated and sold off
for parts.
But liquidation can be a messy and destructive process.
Because all the parties who are owed money, the creditors,
they are scrambling to grab whatever pieces
of the company they can. And that can destroy a lot of the value that is left in that company.
So in 1978, Congress decided to redesign the way the courts handle companies on the verge
of financial collapse.
So instead of having the destructive piecemeal liquidation that can go on in a grab race,
bankruptcy law says
all of the claims against the debtor have to be brought into a single forum, that's
the bankruptcy court, and the bankruptcy court is going to have control over all the debtor's
assets no matter where they're located. And we're going to be able to have an orderly
process.
Congress redesigned the law and created a new kind of bankruptcy, Chapter 11
bankruptcy. And Chapter 11 didn't just streamline the liquidation process, it
actually made it easier for a company to be reorganized. With the help of the
bankruptcy court, a distressed company could pause all of its creditors demands,
it could come up with a plan for restructuring their assets and paying
off their debts in a fair and orderly fashion,
and it could potentially rise from the ashes as a new, healthier version of the company.
Danielle Pletka Adam says this system has created a sort of
financial ecosystem that springs up around a Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
Adam Sosnowski So you can think of this a bit like a nature
show about life on the Serengeti. So the distress company is the carcass of the wildebeest or
something and then there's an order in the animal kingdom in which everyone feeds on
the carcass.
Leo Dion In other words, once the distressed company
declares bankruptcy, there is an order of priority for which creditors, the people who
are owed money, will get paid back first.
And at the top you have the lions. Those are your, really like your secured creditors, the creditors who have collateral.
And that's going to be your banks. Those are the lions in the world.
Secured creditors have contracts with the distressed company that include collateral.
Meaning if the company does not pay their debts, they have the right to take some property.
And then there are the unsecured creditors. Unsecured creditors are owed money from the company,
but their contracts do not give them collateral.
So this could be a vendor who supplies the company with services or materials, or it could be a group of employees
who never got paid.
You can think of those as maybe, I don't know,
be a group of employees who never got paid. You can think of those as maybe, I don't know, the hyenas and the jackals and they
pick what's left of the corpse after the lions have eaten their fill. And at the very
end, I don't know, if we want to push this metaphor too far.
Always push the metaphor.
You know, if there's still some value left, it drips down to the old equity holders and
maybe they're the dung beetles.
The last group to get anything, the beetles holding the dung, I guess, are the equity
holders, people who are invested in the company and who own stock.
Chapter 11 gives all these different groups, secured creditors, unsecured creditors, and
stockholders, a place in line to get paid back. And creditors have the right to a claim, a kind of IOU. And Adam
explains one big important element of the modern bankruptcy system is that these claims
can be bought and sold.
And so there is a fourth and final group circling above the bankruptcy Serengeti, a flock of
opportunistic investors who buy bankruptcy claims in order to extract as much profit as they
can from the feeding frenzy. These are kind of your distress specialists. Those are your vultures,
right? They specialize in spotting opportunity and distress. And one of the big opportunities
these vulture investors are looking for are bankruptcies that may look hopeless at the
beginning, but actually still have a lot of hidden value inside.
In those cases, the vulture investors can make a bet.
They can buy claims on the cheap
in the hopes that they'll get paid out more
by the end of the bankruptcy.
And these bets can be extremely lucrative,
especially in bankruptcies that begin in chaos and scandal.
Take Enron, the energy company that went to bankruptcy
after massive fraud, or Lehman Brothers, the investment bank whose collapse helped
fuel the global financial crisis. Some distressed investors who bought
bankruptcy claims for those two companies were able to make at least two
or three times their money. When FTX filed for bankruptcy, it was folded into
a new legal entity, the FTX Bankruptcy
Estate.
And a few things made it an enticing wildebeest on the Serengeti of bankruptcy.
First, the number of secured creditors, the Lions, was relatively small.
And second, there was an enormous group of unsecured creditors.
Because tens of thousands of FTX customers became FTX unsecured creditors because tens of thousands of FTX customers became FTX
unsecured creditors. People like Bhagam Shikhanagunla, our Larry David-loving
amateur crypto investor. That meant that all of these former FTX customers were
well positioned in the bankruptcy food chain. In November of 2022, most people
were watching what was happening at FTX as this flaming
hot financial wreck and hoping to stay as far away from it as possible. But that, that is exactly
the moment when some people's phones started blowing up with frantic messages in the middle
of the night. Do you ever identify as a vulture investor? Yeah, I don't have a problem with it.
I kind of liken it to like economic dumpster diving.
Thomas Brazil runs a small distress debt brokerage firm. He makes his living in part facilitating
trades between bankruptcy claim buyers and sellers, usually takes a commission. At first,
Thomas was getting offers to buy frozen FTX accounts for more than 30 cents on the dollar.
But he wasn't interested because FTX's financial situation was still too unclear.
I was like, that's just too much.
It's a total black box.
I can't do those kinds of trades.
Like putting money into black boxes and shooting from the hip is a great way to like get burned
very quickly.
Thomas says that at the very beginning, FTX hadn't disclosed a lot of the usual information
that he would typically use to figure out how much these claims might be worth.
FTX declared bankruptcy so quickly and so
chaotically that at first the company didn't even file all of the usual paperwork.
But for Thomas that extra layer of chaos could mean more opportunity.
Some people have this mistaken impression that distressed investing and especially distressed crypto investing is the riskiest thing they've ever heard of.
But risk is really not a function of what you do.
It's the price you pay.
And I just sort of thought like, you know, for the right price, we would stick our toes in the water on this.
But in order to figure out the right price to bother putting his toes into it to start bidding for FTX's bankruptcy claims, Thomas needs
to figure out a couple of things.
Thomas First, there's the question of what he's
actually buying. Some FTX customers were arguing that they were owed the specific cryptocurrency
in their frozen accounts. But Thomas knew that previous case law suggested that the
ultimate payout would likely be based on however much the crypto was worth in US dollars at the
moment FTX filed for bankruptcy, which was relatively low.
Next, you need to figure out what assets FTX might actually have to see if it could be
in a better financial position than it appeared.
So he does some online sleuthing, pokes around on Twitter, looks for splashy investments
and acquisitions by scouring through the PR announcements from FTX and its sister company Alameda Research.
And he sees the FTX estate could have access to hundreds of millions of dollars worth of
Robinhood shares they might be able to sell and a bunch of other investments. And Thomas
is able to see they do still seem to have a lot of crypto.
All of those are things the FTX estate should be able to get their hands on.
And so I was like, there's assets here that are going to come back to the estate.
I'll bet this is at least five or 10 cents, so I'd be willing to buy these things for
three and six cents.
In other words, Thomas is making an educated bet that it'll be worth the risk to buy the
bankruptcy claims at just three to six cents. That he'll be able to get paid out more later when the bankruptcy pays its creditors.
Thomas starts bidding. He closes one deal, an $8 million claim for 3 cents on the dollar,
and then two more multi-million dollar claims for 6 cents on the dollar.
And I actually did have like a big distress guy call me.
It was like, what? You're bidding on FTX claims?
You're crazy.
And I was like, I mean, look, I think you could get 10 cents on the dollar and I'm
bidding five.
And he was like, that's too high.
You're bidding too high.
And I was just like, I don't know.
But I know I'm the only person even putting in a bid.
So that's usually a good place to start.
Thomas was offering just a few pennies on the dollar for bankruptcy claims. Now, some
people heard Thomas's offer and were upset. They called him a vulture. But he says other
people were eager to make the deal so they could cash out as quickly as possible.
Around the same time, other brokers were getting into the mix, which brings us back to our
IT consultant, Bhagamshi Kanagundla, and his frozen FTX account.
I was thinking I would have to wait like maybe four years before I get even some of it back.
But Bhagamshi says he quickly found a prospective buyer through that online marketplace, Xclaim.
The buyer offered him 11 cents on the dollar for his $170,000 bankruptcy claim, which meant
he'd be giving up a potential $150,000, 89% of his full claim.
Which sounds like a terrible deal, right?
Like the total value of the claim was already low because of the price of crypto at that
time, and on top of that he was losing like almost 90%.
But he also knew it would likely take many years
before any creditors got paid at all.
And he wanted the cash out immediately.
The cryptocurrency market was in free fall in the wake of FTX
and he wanted any money he could get in order to reinvest.
I mean, Bitcoin was below 20 grand.
Ethereum was below two grand.
That's amazing.
So that's when I was like,
I'm selling this bankruptcy
claim because I will never see these prices again. I'd be an idiot if I didn't take
advantage of this.
So Bagumshi sells his FTX bankruptcy claim and he gets around $19,000 in total.
Over the next several months, Thomas Brazil, the distressed asset broker, starts to broker
more and more deals. Some are with amateur investors like the Gumshi, but a lot are institutional
investors. Whole crypto hedge funds are forced to shut down and sell off their claims.
And by early 2023, the price of claims starts ticking up. Because the FTX bankruptcy estate,
led by emergency CEO John W Ray, who had presided
over the Enron bankruptcy, they start to announce that they've been able to track down assets
that can be sold to payback creditors.
And that's when like a lot of the distressed firms started getting interested, because
they're like, oh, we know John, we bought claims in Enron and did very well.
Thomas is helping to broker bigger and bigger deals.
By the spring of last year,
a number of big distressed asset firms
had started getting in on the action,
eventually buying up hundreds of millions of dollars worth
of FTX bankruptcy claims.
That helped drive the price of the claims
from 20 cents to 30 cents to 45 cents.
And then there were the announcements from the FTX estate.
All of 2023 was nothing but good news.
Every time you'd wake up, they're, you know,
oh my gosh, we, you know, they'd have this asset
they didn't know about, or they settled this
for $100 million, or they recovered that,
and that's another $50 million.
It's like, holy moly.
Holy moly.
Could FTX bankruptcy claims actually be worth way more than even Thomas had imagined?
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npr.org for the latest and greatest in the pop culture universe. Okay, so it has now been almost 18 months since FTX filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
Chapter 11, you will recall, offers a way for companies to either restructure and rise
from the ashes or to liquidate.
In the case of FTX, the estate announced a few months ago they could not find a suitable
buyer and so they would not be restructuring and restarting the FTX exchange.
As for the prospects for how much all the FTX creditors are likely to get paid back,
there have been a few major changes since the bankruptcy process began.
First, the FTX estate managed to track down a surprisingly large amount of assets pretty
quickly.
Second, several of the investments that FTX and its sister company Alameda made in part
illegally using customer deposits, some of those investments have actually hit pretty
hard.
For instance, in 2021, FTX bought a $500 million stake in an AI startup called Anthropic.
And as AI has taken off over the last year, so too has that investment.
A few weeks ago, the FTX estate announced they'd sell a portion of that stock for
$884 million.
And the last big thing that sort of changed the game for the FTX estate is that the crypto
market has seen a remarkable rebound.
Bitcoin, for example, had been trading at about $16,000 around the
time FTX declared bankruptcy. It has recently shot to a new record high of over $70,000.
For people who made big bets on the corpse of FTX, like distressed investor Thomas Brazil,
this is pretty exciting. FTX still holds some major crypto assets that have seen these big gains, like Bitcoin, Ether,
and Solana.
They owned 40 million Solana.
I'm looking at it right now.
Look at this.
December 30th, 2022, Solana was just under $10.
And now it's at $186.
That helped a lot.
Finally, by January of this year,
lawyers for the estate had announced
that FTX had recovered more than $7 billion in assets so far,
and that at this point, they could cautiously predict
that they'd be able to pay back
the company's creditors in full.
Meaning, if things go according to plan,
everyone holding valid FTX bankruptcy claims
will receive
at least $0.01 for every dollar they are owed.
So they may receive 100% of their claim in the end.
All of it.
Which sounds pretty great.
So great, in fact, that lawyers for Sam Bankman Fried used the news to argue that he should
get a lower prison sentence.
The judge, however, did not buy this argument.
He ended up sentencing Sam Beckman Fried to 25 years in prison for fraud, conspiracy,
and money laundering.
And others point out that FTX customers aren't really being made whole.
Yes, they may end up getting their full claims, but the value of those claims were calculated
when the crypto market was collapsing.
So some customers who sold their claims early, they won't benefit at all.
And some customers went into personal bankruptcy during this whole long process.
As for Thomas Brazil and the other distressed investors and brokers who got in on the action,
the FTX bankruptcy is shaping up to be a huge money making bonanza for them.
One that could potentially see 10x returns or more for people who bought in at the bottom
of the market.
I think this is the biggest thing that ever happened to the whole Crete and backwater
area bankruptcy trade claims since the invention of the whole idea of buying these.
It looks a lot like Lehman.
Lehman, as in that Wall Street investment bank, Lehman Brothers.
When Lehman went under, everybody thought, oh my god, this is horrible.
All this stuff is toxic waste.
Who's going to want to buy any of these assets?
And it ended up for some distressed buyers.
The recovery of Lehman was about 140 cents on the dollar, but it took 10 years.
And so we joked that FTX is like Lehman on speed.
Now, it still isn't clear exactly how much FTX creditors will end up getting paid or
exactly when, but creditors could potentially start seeing the first round of payments around
the end of this year.
We should also say in 2021, Thomas Brazil was accused of, among other things, misappropriating
funds from a bankruptcy estate he was managing.
He's admitted to making mistakes in the case, but he denies quote, actual or potential criminal liability.
As for Bhagamchik Anagundla, the FTX customer who sold his $170,000 bankruptcy claim for just
11 cents on the dollar, when I asked him did he regret selling his claim for so little and missing
out on what could be big payments?
He told me he actually hadn't been following any of the developments in the bankruptcy case.
After I sold my claim, I don't even think about it.
You were like, I'm out of here.
I'm done. I'm done.
Because here's the thing.
Focusing on stuff that's been done doesn't allow you to move forward.
You let it go and then you move on to the next. Did it feel like an emotional thing too of like, if you could get rid of this claim that
kind of tethered you to this loss, you could actually kind of emotionally move on in a
way that was better?
Yes.
100% correct.
I didn't want to be stuck in purgatory.
When I released the claim and I got the money,
I felt like as if a big weight has
been lifted off my shoulders.
I don't have to think about it anymore.
The gum-shee says he used his claim money
to reinvest into crypto, largely into Solana.
And he's been able to grow his $19,000 into about $60,000,
which isn't close to erasing his FTX losses.
But he says, who knows?
By the time the FTX estate finally pays its creditors, maybe his new investments could
be worth even more than his original claim.
What would Larry David say about that outcome?
That's pretty, pretty good.
Pretty good.
I like the way you said it though.
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