Planet Money - How Juul created a market, fueled a crisis, and why regulators failed to stop it
Episode Date: June 21, 2024When the vape brand Juul first hit the market back in 2015, e-cigarettes were in a kind of regulatory limbo. At the time, the rules that governed tobacco cigarettes did not explicitly apply to e-cigar...ettes. Then Juul blew up, fueled a public health crisis over teen vaping, and inspired a regulatory crackdown. But when the government finally stepped in to solve the problem of youth vaping, it may have actually made things worse.Today's episode is a collaboration with the new podcast series "Backfired: the Vaping Wars." You can listen to the full series at audible.com/Backfired.This episode was hosted by Alexi Horowitz-Ghazi and Leon Neyfakh. It was produced by Emma Peaslee and edited by Jess Jiang with help from Annie Brown. It was fact checked by Sofia Shchukina and engineered by Cena Loffredo. Alex Goldmark is Planet Money's executive producer.Help support Planet Money and hear our bonus episodes by subscribing to Planet Money+ in Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org/planetmoney.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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Where does this whole story begin?
So our story begins in November of 2019 at the White House where President Donald Trump
has become concerned about youth vaping.
This is journalist Leon Neyfolk.
For the past year or so, he's been looking into the rise of e-cigarettes over the last
couple of decades.
And that story centers on one device in particular, the Juul.
The Juul is a sleek little USB type device that became essentially the first mainstream
vape.
But at the time of this White House meeting back in 2019,
the Juul was seen by a lot of people
as this massive threat to public health.
The numbers around teen use of Juul in particular
are skyrocketing.
Everyone thought the war on youth smoking was over.
Those numbers have been going down and down and down.
But here comes this new technology, this new device, the jewel that kids seem to love.
And so Trump decides to invite a whole bunch of stakeholders, people from parent groups,
people from industry to have basically a apprentice style gathering to hash it out.
Okay.
So this is like the reality TV approach to public health policy.
Yeah, so I mean, you get the impression
that Trump thought that by just simply getting everyone
in a room and having them argue about it,
he would see the path forward.
He would see the obvious solution
that all these other people had not been able to find.
Well, this is a very big subject,
and it's a very big subject,
and it's a very complex subject,
probably a little bit less complex than some people think.
But I'm here to listen, and I have very divergent views.
Who would like to start?
As different people around the table
respond to President Trump,
the fault lines in this debate start to become clear.
Broadly speaking, there are two factions. One side says that vaping is a scourge on
society that's getting an entire new generation of kids addicted to nicotine, and we need
to do whatever we can to get these things out of stores and out of kids' hands.
And I've never seen an epidemic this serious, this rapid, and this intense among our youth.
And then on the other side, you have a faction that says, okay, yes, youth vaping is a problem,
but we also got to think about all these millions of smokers who are going to die if they don't
quit.
And vaping has been shown to be a really effective way to quit smoking.
So for these folks, which includes a lot of public health experts, vaping
is an imperfect solution to a really, really deadly problem.
But pretty quickly, the meeting goes from the usual introductions and pleasantries to
a series of disagreements over some of the most basic facts of the situation, like how
many teens are actually taking up vaping.
Five million is a misrepresentation.
Five million is a misrepresentation. I'm not trying to show you a lot.
No, five million is ever tried.
There's basically an exchange of accusations that both sides are not being honest about the problem.
And it gets really personal really fast.
Yeah, the meeting eventually devolves into an outright screaming match.
I'm sorry, but that's a false.
Half the place in my high school, I'm sorry, but that's a false. Half the kids in my high school are my kids.
I'm sorry, but that is a completely false statement.
You tell us a Mormon state.
Half the kids in high school are big.
It's not a very productive meeting.
People are just like, shouting over each other
and you can't even really hear what everybody's saying.
So Trump has to kind of just
put a stop to it after about an hour.
And he is clearly
a little bit sobered by what he has seen
and his hope of making a complex subject less complex has not worked.
We want to take care of our kids.
Got to take care of our kids.
Thank you very much.
When you zoom out, this meeting at the White House feels like a kind of key
to understanding the broader story of how e-cigarettes came crashing into our lives.
I mean, I think what you see in that chaotic meeting is,
it's a microcosm of the debate we've been having
ever since vaping took off, and ever since this thing
that was supposed to solve one public health problem
has seemingly spawned a whole other one.
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Hello and welcome to Planet Money. I'm Alexi Horowitz-Ghazi. And I'm Leon Neyfok. one public health problem has seemingly spawned a whole other one.
Hello and welcome to Planet Money. I'm Alexi Horowitz-Ghazi.
And I'm Leon Neyfok. I am the co-host along with journalist Ariel Pardes
of a new podcast called Backfired, The Vaping Wars.
Today on the show, the parable of the jewel.
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For you, keep listening. Okay, so the Joule was not the first attempt to create an electronic cigarette.
Companies had been experimenting with the idea for decades by the time Joule hit the
market.
But the rise of Joule helps explain how this technology went from a niche product to a
mainstream industry worth tens of billions of dollars.
And like a lot of tech companies,
Jewel got its start in Silicon Valley.
Yeah, so the story of Jewel begins on the campus
of Stanford University where two design students,
James Monsies and Adam Bowen, both smokers,
decide to make their thesis project
a prototype of an e-cigarette, a device that will satisfy their cravings as smokers decide to make their thesis project a prototype of an e-cigarette,
a device that will satisfy their cravings as smokers and satisfy
the social components of smoking without killing them.
We just looked at each other and thought,
this would be a really interesting space to look at.
Our goal was to basically create a whole new experience for people that retains the positive aspects of smoking,
like the ritual and everything, but makes it as healthy and socially acceptable as possible.
How explicit was the kind of like public health part of the mission in their pitch?
I think it was genuinely core to what they wanted to do. I mean, I'm not saying that they were altruists who merely wanted to save lives.
They also wanted to make money doing it.
But I think they saw a huge opportunity when they looked at
the massive population of smokers who actively wanted to quit and who
weren't able to quit using the smoking cessation tools that were out there.
That was very much part of the pitch to investors.
From the beginning, Monsi's talked about that population as both a group of people that he wanted to help, but also a group
of people that, you know, Jule could make a lot of money on.
So that is the origin story of Jule. But one of the key factors in how the
company was able to become a cultural phenomenon has to do with how e-cigarettes
were regulated when James Monsey's and Adam Bowen were building their company.
The regulatory system that Jule walked into was very murky.
There wasn't really anyone they had to answer to.
See, back in the 1990s, attorneys general from states across the country
had sued big tobacco companies.
And the settlements they won against big tobacco, along with later legislation,
meant those companies were limited in how they could advertise or what kinds of flavored products they could
sell.
But those rules did not explicitly apply to e-cigarette companies.
So the FDA had tried to regulate e-cigarettes before Juul came along.
There was like an earlier company called Enjoy, I'm still around.
Enjoy wanted to advertise and the FDA tried to block them
by characterizing the Enjoy as a drug delivery device.
Enjoy sued the FDA and basically took the position
that they were no more a drug delivery device
than regular cigarettes.
And given that the FDA at the time
couldn't regulate cigarettes either,
they had no standing to tell Enjoy what to do.
Congress did pass a law in 2009 giving the FDA authority to regulate tobacco products like cigarettes.
But it still took several years before they were able to bring e-cigarettes into that category.
Which meant that when Juul first hit the market in 2015, the company was operating in a kind of legal gray area.
So the lack of regulations around e-cigarettes
meant that Juul was free to do a number of things
that you would be really shocked by
if it was a tobacco company.
From the very beginning, Juul knew
that flavored vape liquid was going
to be key to making people want their product.
So they had flavors like mango and cool cucumber.
Again, not something that tobacco companies could offer.
And secondly, and this is really important,
they were able to advertise.
And as anyone who remembers the fight over the Marlboro Man
or Joe Camel would remember,
tobacco companies had their hands really tied
when it came to presenting their product in a positive light
and making people want to smoke Marlboros
by showing them a cool cowboy.
Jewel wasn't bound by that.
And what exactly did Jewel do with this freedom they had to advertise?
They try to make Jewel look cool.
They try to make their product look really attractive through marketing.
They launch a campaign they call Vaporized.
They put a big billboard in Times Square.
They put a print ad in Vice.
And they threw parties in cities where they thought they could reach cool young people
who would then tell their friends about this cool new device.
One of those cool young people was a woman in New York City named Tabby Wakefield or Tabby
Wakes. This is like the start of viral marketing. Like I didn't know what I was doing, but this is
what I was doing, I guess. Tabby Wakes was someone who threw parties around the city. You know, she
was just out of high school and someone, you know, who knew someone who knew Tabby invited her to the
Jewel event in New York and told her to bring all her friends.
I think she got paid 200 bucks to basically avail her social network of this party.
And once she got to the Jewel party, she was given samples of their products.
They had little bowls filled with pots.
So you could take a handful of creme brulee and just dip.
Mint was good and tobacco was good
and fruit punch was trash. And what she told us was that she brought her vapes back to college and
her friends brought their vapes back to college and we had a bunch of jewels. So it's like your
friend comes in your dorm and is like pass me that like thing you were smoking. You're like here you
can have one. And I think as we say in the show, this was like viral marketing as God intended it.
Like, they told their friends and their friends told their friends.
And suddenly, this weird little USB stick was an object to be coveted, something to
ask for at a party.
Now, there was pushback against the Vaporize campaign.
It reminded people of Joe Camel and the slick tobacco advertising of the past.
So Juul changed the direction of their advertising and growth was slow at first,
but a year or so after they launch Jewel sales start to take off.
Blue craze and e-cigarettes.
It's called Jewel and it is flying off the shelves.
One store owner we spoke to says sometimes he sells out in one day.
So between 2016 and 2017, you see their sales increased by seven fold from two million units
sold in 2016 to 16 million in 2017.
And you know I just remember that suddenly they were everywhere.
I mean walking on the street you saw people jeweling, you know celebrities were starting
to be caught with jewels.
You know the wordule becomes a verb.
That's how you know you're winning,
is when people say Juling instead of whatever else, vaping.
And it's around this time that a lot of people
start to notice that while Jules target audience
may be adult smokers looking to quit,
the company's rising popularity
is also being driven by teenagers.
I mean, I remember walking down the street on my way to work and seeing high school kids
standing around vaping.
And those same kids would keep vaping when they got to school.
They were vaping in the bathrooms.
They were vaping in class.
But you could also go on YouTube and you could see kids talking about how they get away with
juuling at school.
I'm going to go over a couple of different ways
to hit your jewel while you're in school and not get caught.
Giving people advice on how to pack your jewel into your socks or how to
exhale the vapor into your sweater so that no one can see it or smell it.
That brought a whole new kind of attention on jewel.
In just a couple of years on the market,
jewel had gone from total obscurity
to being a fixture of teen life,
flooding into homerooms and study halls across the country.
Which brings us to the next part of the story,
the backlash.
This is when parents and anti-tobacco activists
started calling for government action.
And the thing that really pushed
government regulators to act was a survey.
So the real thunderclap was the CDC's annual youth tobacco
survey, which they had been administering for years.
And so the early results from the survey
hit the desk of a man named Mitch Seller, who
had been put in charge of the FDA's efforts
to regulate cigarettes.
The d*** hit the fan in 2018, when
we saw the explosion in the rise of kids' use of e-cigarettes
from 2017 to 2018.
It turned out to be a 76% increase in kids' use of e-cigarettes in one year.
So I looked at these numbers in shock.
So Zeller just rang the alarm.
He brought the results of the youth tobacco survey straight to the FDA commissioner at
the time, Scott Gottlieb.
And Gottlieb, you know, had the same reaction.
And he goes out in public and he calls this an epidemic.
The FDA will not tolerate a whole generation of young people becoming addicted to nicotine
as a trade-off for enabling adults to have unfettered access to these same products.
And from the beginning, the theory of the case was that the reason kids are flocking
to these products and to Juul specifically was flavors.
Kids love flavors.
Kids love candy.
They are curious about a mango flavored USB stick.
And so the number one priority became getting rid of flavored e-cigarettes.
And faced with the threat of a crackdown from the FDA,
Juul decides to voluntarily withdraw most of its flavors from retail stores.
They announced they're going to take those mango and fruit and cucumber Juul pods and only sell them online, where they can use an age verification tool.
It seems like they're on board and by all appearances, like they are cooperating with
the FDA. And then the FDA finds out about something along with the rest of the world
that really shocks them.
Altria is taking an almost $13 billion step towards making sure its business model doesn't go up in smoke.
Jule is taking on a massive investment from Altria, which is the company formerly known as Philip Morris and the company that makes Marlboro's.
Altria says that its investment will boost Jule's value to $38 billion, making it more valuable than Ford, Delta Airlines, or Target.
Big nicotine entering Jules, that's a scary thing for parents that have no idea how to
contain this issue.
All of a sudden, you're looking at a very different situation where a company whose
existence was premised on destroying a company like Philip Morris and putting them out of
business was now taking their money and essentially getting into bed with them.
And this decision only seems to raise more outrage and more concern among regulators.
And so even with this huge new infusion of money, the company becomes more embattled
than ever.
Yeah, this was definitely Jules' worst year.
I mean, first, James Monsey, the co-founder, is dragged in front of Congress
and faces extremely hostile questions from politicians who see him as a drug pusher.
You, sir, you don't ask for permission.
You ask for forgiveness.
You're nothing but a marketer of a poison.
And your target has been young people.
And then almost at the same time as this hearing takes place,
people start dying of something that
people think is connected to vaping.
That's all we knew for a while.
We have been reporting heavily recently on
vaping and the growing health concerns.
Last week, we learned there are now five deaths
being reported on it or blamed on it.
Indiana, Minnesota, and California, each reported a vaping-related death on Friday.
Eventually, it was determined that the majority of these cases were linked to a kind of oil
used in THC vapes, not mass-market nicotine vapes like Juul. But at the time, no one knew what was
causing this mysterious vaping illness, and it got a ton of media coverage, which eventually reached President Trump.
And so Trump is starting to hear about vaping from various people, including Melania, who's
worried about their son Baron at school, and Trump decides that he needs to do something
about it.
We have a problem in our country.
It's a new problem.
It's called vaping
especially vaping as it pertains to innocent children and
They're coming home and they're saying mom. I want to vape
So Trump calls in Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar. He calls in the acting commissioner of the FDA
They have a press conference make it clear that they are going after flavors that flavors are the main, they have a press conference, make it clear that they are going after flavors, that flavors are the main way they see dealing with the teen problem. So with the president's support, the Food and Drug Administration intends to finalize
a guidance document that would commence enforcement to require that all flavors other than tobacco
flavor would be removed from the market. to require that all flavors other than tobacco flavor
would be removed from the market.
Okay, so they announce what sounds like
kind of a definitive plan here,
just get rid of these flavors.
But it turns out to be a bit more complicated, right?
Like what happens to that idea?
Well, what happens to that idea
is that it turns out not everyone likes it.
It turns out that there is in fact a constituency of people out there who are
adults who vote and who like their flavored vapes.
There are people who have quit smoking using flavored vapes.
There are people for whom it's become part of their lifestyle.
Trump has taken a back when he starts getting
concerted pushback from this voting bloc who actually might be important to Trump's reelection.
They live in swing states like Michigan.
There's a survey that Trump becomes aware of, his advisors show it to him, that says
that 83% of people who vape would become single issue voters, basically, if their ability
to vape was threatened by whatever the FDA had in store.
And what seemed like a really easy win, you know, who doesn't want to prevent kids from
becoming addicted to nicotine, suddenly starts to look like kind of a headache because it
turns out there's another side of the story.
And this kind of brings us back to that White House meeting that we talked about at the
beginning of the show, right?
Yes.
So part of his sort of attempt to think through this issue, that's when Trump invites
everybody he can think of who cares about vaping to come to the White House and argue
about it.
After this meeting, it takes the Trump administration a little over a month before they announce
where they've actually landed on this question.
And in the end, the FDA's new policy does put a ban on vape flavors, just in a very
particular way.
The flavor ban, you know, spiritually sounds exactly what they've been talking about.
But in the way that the policy is actually written, they leave open a huge loophole by
limiting their policy to what they describe as cartridge-based devices. So in other words, a device like Joule, where you buy the thing itself,
but then separately you buy pods that can come in mango or cucumber or whatever,
you can't do that anymore. Can't have flavored pods, can't have flavored cartridges.
It really just is aimed at Joule.
The Trump administration had decided to kind of split the difference between the main factions in this debate.
They were essentially trying to stop the most popular device
from selling the flavors that teens craved.
Yet they were still allowing some flavors
to appease the adult vapers who'd organized
against an outright flavor ban.
But this solution struck some public health officials
as a recipe for more problems,
including Mitch Zeller, who was in charge of regulating tobacco products at the FDA.
The White House made this decision. I received a phone call from a political person at FDA
telling me what the policy was going to be as decided by the White House. And I said,
well, if that's what you're telling me to do, we will write that guidance. But I just
got to tell you from a public health perspective, this is not sound or wise policy.
And I said, if this administration is really concerned about flavorty cigarettes, it can't
draw the line just to cartridge and pod-based products because it'll be whack-a-mole.
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In January of 2020, the FDA announced a ban
on flavored vaping cartridges,
basically targeting Juul in hopes of solving
the problem of youth vaping.
Instead, the problem kind of exploded in a whole new direction. Flavored Juul pods were no longer
allowed on store shelves, but almost immediately scores of new competitors rushed in, offering
brightly colored disposable vapes. And these disposables have been an enormous hit. A lot of these disposables, like, are way, way, uh, stronger
in terms of how much nicotine you inhale when you hit one.
And more to the point, they are so much more aggressive
than Juul ever was in terms of offering a dizzying array
of, of kid-friendly flavors.
I mean, I tried a lot of these vapes
over the course of our reporting for this series.
I'm going off the top of my head here, but you know, there was a blue raspberry,
there was a matcha flavored one, there was a watermelon ice, there was something called
beach day, which is rather abstract for a flavor, but I gather it, you know, evokes
the spirit of hanging out by the ocean. You know, they took the appeal of Juul,
specifically the aspect of Juul's appeal
that really spoke to young people,
and just turned it up to 11.
Now, most of these disposable vapes are actually illegal.
Vape companies are supposed to apply for approval from the FDA
or get a waiver in order to sell their products legally.
But at this point, there are just so many new makes and models that the FDA has found
itself playing this kind of nightmarish game of whack-a-mole.
They hear about the latest vape the kids are into, they do everything to take it off the
market, only for something else to take its place.
So in many cases, these disposable brands are coming from overseas.
The FDA can't even really figure out
who runs them in some cases.
They try to send them warning letters
when they can find their addresses that say basically like,
you can't be selling this stuff.
And they try to add certain brands of vapes
to like lists of products that are banned from import,
you know, the customs people at the border can seize.
And that does stop a couple brands in their tracks,
but overall what the FDA finds is that these companies
are extremely nimble and pretty brazen.
Sometimes they just rebrand, you know.
Elfbar, when they got put on the import ban list,
the company just put out a new line of vapes called EB Create.
And everyone understood that these new vapes were the same
as the old ones, you know, made by the same company,
maybe some different flavors.
But you know, the FDA couldn't really do anything about it
because the industry was just moving
so much faster than they could.
And this explosion in unregulated e-cigarettes
has only added to the health concerns around
vaping. Because we just don't know the ingredients that are going into many of
these devices. And it's still too early to know in general what the long-term
health effects of vaping even are. Okay, so Leon, after reporting on the rise of
the vaping industry for more than a year now. What is your big takeaway here?
Like, what do you think is the moral of the Juul story?
I think maybe the moral of the story of Juul
is that we're in an age where things can become widely
adopted so much faster than was possible in the past.
And that in itself is like a new challenge
for regulators who always had to be reactive in one way
or another, but now are finding
that so many new technologies get introduced and widely adopted in a way that makes them
really hard to put back in the bottle.
In a way, you can think of the story of Juul as the story of a lot of regulation.
When a new technology springs up, regulators have to make this choice on how restrictive
or lenient to be. Too restrictive
and they risk depriving consumers of potentially life-saving products. Too lenient and they
run the risk of unimagined consequences. And given how long it takes to pass new legislation
and figure out enforcement, it can be nearly impossible for regulators to prevent this
chaos before it's
unleashed.
Today's episode is just one small slice of the story that Leon and co-host Ariel Pardas
tell in their new podcast series, Backfired the Vaping Wars.
They've got insider accounts of the design and marketing of the
jewel. They go along for a real time police bust of illegal vape
sellers. And they have a sit down interview with one of the
people who created jewel.
I'm James Monses. I'm the co founder of jewel.
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You certainly can ask that.
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