Planet Money - How to get through the Strait of Hormuz
Episode Date: April 14, 2026The United States has been at war with Iran since February 28th. And for a month and a half, Iran’s main leverage over the U.S. has been their control over the Strait of Hormuz — a key global ship...ping route. Iran has attacked ships that try to pass without approval. And recently they’ve insinuated that one part of the Strait — the part near Oman — is not safe. Which means that captains had to go right by Iran’s shores to get through the Strait … effectively creating a chokepoint for the global economy. On today’s show, a source inside Iran tells us how ships had been getting through the strait, and how the tollbooth Iran set up works. And we ask: What does this all mean for the global economy? Live show tour and book info. / Subscribe to Planet Money+Listen free: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the NPR app or anywhere you get podcasts.Facebook / Instagram / TikTok / Our weekly Newsletter.This episode of Planet Money was hosted by Nick Fountain. It was produced by James Sneed. It was edited by Jess Jiang, fact-checked by Sierra Juarez, and engineered by Kwesi Lee. Alex Goldmark is Planet Money’s executive producer.To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below:See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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Right now, as we record this show,
Tuesday, April 14th, around 2 p.m. Eastern, Iran and the U.S. are still blocking marine traffic from leaving the Persian Gulf.
We have no idea how this is going to play out.
But we do know that it will have huge implications for the global economy.
And for this guy.
Testing 1-2.
Okay.
It's recording.
Who are you, and what do you do?
Christian St. Clair.
I'm the production manager at Van Gographics Books.
Yes, books, but hold on.
This is not a show about the Planet Money book.
It's about two books that Christian from Fantagraphics has been working on.
That are weirdly connected to the war between the U.S. and Iran.
I first called Christian a little over a week ago, just before the ceasefire was announced,
and he told me about the books in question.
One is Roberta Gregory's Bitchie.
It's a collection of kind of feminist comics.
And then another one is Adventures into Weird Worlds.
The books were printed in India.
and Christian got word in February that they were on schedule to be put on an enormous and very, very hot pink container ship called the One Majesty and would get to the U.S. in early April.
Right on time for a book launch party.
And then the war started and Iran effectively cut off these skinny waterway ships used to get in and out of the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz.
Not too long after, Christian was at a production meeting, and a colleague asked,
Do any of our books go through the Strait of Hormuz?
And I was like, no, I don't think so.
I was like, you know, they usually just go straight through the Suez.
And yet, a couple weeks later, Christian was wondering about the status of those books,
and he Googled the name of the bright pink ship, the One Majesty.
I just thought it would, like, show up on Vessel Finder like it always did.
But?
But I just plugged it in again.
only this time it's like
you know, it's like
Ouga, one majesty
has been attacked in the strain of Hormuz
and I was just like, oh my God,
you've got to be kidding me.
Christian learned that the crew was safe,
the cargo too.
Apparently the attack left the ship with
just a small hole in it.
But it was not going anywhere
anytime soon. It was stranded
in the Persian Gulf. I mean, Christian
sitting at his desk in Seattle,
he knew these books were not a
big deal in the grand scheme of things.
There was a war going on. People were dying.
Iran's blockade of the strait had cut off 20% of the world's oil supply and other important
commodities like helium and fertilizer.
No, for Christian, like many of us, the experience of the war has been kind of removed.
We've mostly seen it at, you know, the gas pump.
Christian has seen it with these books, which he kept checking on every day by looking
up the status of that bright pink ship.
For a long time, if you looked up that particular ship on the marine tracking websites,
it just kept pushing out the arrival date by day, even though you knew that was not going to happen.
And, you know, and it's still literally showing it in the straight of Hormuz.
And then I just checked it, and it now says, like, this ship is location unknown.
Ain't that a metaphor?
Hello and welcome to planning money.
I'm Nick Fountain.
As we tape this show, U.S. warships are continuing their blockade of Iran.
Iran still controls the Strait of Hormuz, and a big portion of global commerce is still stuck.
Cut off.
Today on the show, we're going to focus on a key sticking point between the U.S. and Iran,
the future of the strait of Hormuz, and ask, how have ships been getting through the strait?
What does Iran's control of it mean for the global economy?
And what's happened with Christians' books and that bright pink ship?
has been at war with Iran since February 28th.
And for that month and a half, Iran's main leverage over the U.S.
has been their control over the Strait of Hormuz.
They've attacked ships that try to pass without approval.
And recently, they've insinuated that one part of the strait, the part near Oman, is not safe.
Like, maybe there are mines.
Which means captains have to go right by Iran's shores to get through the strait, effectively
creating a choke point for the global economy.
Last week on Tuesday, when President Trump announced a ceasefire, he said the Iranians had agreed to completely open up the strait.
But the next day, the ships in that area got a very different message.
Transiting in the Strait of Hormuz is closed yet.
Transiting in the Strait of Hormuz is closed.
If any vessels try to transit, without permission.
will be destroyed.
If any vessels try to transit without permission, they will be destroyed.
Which was kind of a clue that some ships were able to get through with permission.
Maybe this was a way out for the Bright Pig chip.
I wanted to figure out how that permission works.
How do you get it and what is it cost?
So I started calling around.
Hello?
Yes.
Who's speaking?
This is Nick Fountain.
I was honestly kind of surprised to get Hamid Hosseini on the phone.
He's not a government official, but he is very well connected in the oil and gas industry.
He's a spokesperson for Iran's oil, gas, and petroleum products exporters union.
OPEX.
Where are you located these days?
Are you in Tehran?
Yes, I'm in Tehran.
And how has the last month and a half been for you?
Okay.
We must care about ourselves.
But for Iranian, it's normal.
Don't worry about us.
Okay.
We are safe.
Hamid seemed relieved for the ceasefire, excited to be a little less on edge.
What do you do for fun?
Fun?
I play football.
Football.
Are you good?
What is your record?
All our player is more than 40 years.
We are old men.
We are not young people.
You're the old guys.
We play with old guys.
All right.
But back to the.
Straight of Hormuz.
Hamid confirmed, yes, there is basically a toll system.
In fact, he said just the other day, a friend of his, an Indian guy,
went through the strait and told him how it works.
The friend had a ship full of oil,
and that ship had been stuck in the Persian Gulf since the beginning of the war.
But he wanted to get it out.
He wanted to get it to India.
So the friend got in touch with the Indian government,
who helped him broker a deal.
He explained to me that he contacted.
contact with the Revolution Guard to Sepah Navy, Sepah Navy.
Okay.
The SEPA Navy is part of the most powerful military body in Iran, an organization called the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
Okay.
And contact to them and inform them.
I am interested to pass the Hormos.
Passed through the straight, yes.
Hamid's friend got word that it was possible.
But first, he had to send some information, like ship name, country that it's
flagged, where it's headed, what's on board, who's on board?
The team, okay, that's working in the vessel.
Hamid said the Iranians were mainly checking to make sure the captain and the crew weren't
from the U.S. or Israel or Iran's other adversaries, and that the ship and cargo weren't
affiliated with those countries too.
Though he said, as far as he knows, the Iranian authorities were not verifying what,
who was on the vessels by boarding or sending drones.
For Hamid's friend and his ship, everything checked out.
They check everything about personal, about vessel, about flag, about owner, about destination of the cargo.
Then they check everything.
Then they approved.
They approved.
But his friendship could not pass yet.
First, he had to pay a toll.
Before passing, ask him pay for each barrel, one barrel, one dollar.
Hamid's friend told him the ship had to pay $1 per barrel of oil.
And keep in mind, these ships, they are big.
Very large crude carriers, or VLCCs, carry two million barrels of oil.
So these tolls could be as much as $2 million each time.
But Iran does not want to be paid in dollars.
Hamid's friend told him.
He told me pay by crypto.
Crypto?
Yes.
Very limit time.
They gave him very limited time.
Only five seconds.
Five seconds.
Give him a count.
Five seconds you must pay.
There are a couple reasons to not use dollars.
Crypto helps everyone avoid U.S. sanctions
and also lets the Iranians move the money quickly.
Five seconds is extraordinarily quick.
Was that an exaggeration?
He told me, I don't know, but he paid.
He was successful to pay.
Hamid says his French oil ship sailed through and made its way to India.
So you got this information from a person.
who had an oil tanker.
Also, SEPA navy, they confirmed that this is the process.
Hamid told me his contact at the Iranian SEPA Navy said,
This is the system.
I asked Hamid to connect us with his Navy source, who gave him this info.
He wouldn't.
Same to with his Indian friend with the oil tanker.
Before I let Hamid go, I told him about Christian
and the comic book stuck on the bright pink ship in the Persian Gulf.
And he was like, oh, put us in touch.
Maybe we can help him.
Maybe we can help you.
If we send information, maybe we'll be able to help him.
Seriously?
Yes.
If destination was not USA.
Ah, yeah.
Asian country, no problem.
Destination is New York City.
New York City.
Maybe let me see what will happen.
Basically, Hamid is saying, since the ship is going to the U.S.,
Christians only hope might be successful negotiations
between the U.S. and Iran.
Okay, stay safe and thank you so much for the time.
Thanks.
Thank you very, thank you.
Okay, bye-bye.
So it seemed unlikely that Hamid could help Christian
and the bright pink ship.
I also tried reaching out to the shipping company
that owns the One Majesty,
and they said they wouldn't comment on the status of the ship.
But there was one person I wanted to check with.
Am I coming through your headphones?
Yes.
Perfect.
Let's do this.
Who are you and what do you do?
Ryan Peterson, founder and CEO of Lexport.
We've had Ryan on the show before.
And the reason I called him is because his company is at the center of global logistics and shipping.
They have containers going every which way at any moment.
He has sources at every major shipping company.
He is very keyed into this stuff.
I asked Ryan, hey, do you know what's happening with the Bright Ping ship, the One Majesty,
the ship that might have Christians books on it?
And he was like, no.
We do have some containers stuck in the Gulf, just not on that ship.
But he did have some info for Christian, and it was not good.
Apparently, when a ship is damaged, like the bright pink ship was,
the ship owner might use something called the Law of General Average.
And what General Average says is that if there's damage to some cargo on the ship,
it's shared equally across all of the people who have cargo on the ship.
So you all share in this together, including damage to the ship itself.
It's actually you as a customer of the ship are liable and you're on the hook for that damage.
The law makes sense in that if there's a disaster at on the high seas,
the last thing you want is the sailors, the captain thinking about which cargo to throw overboard in order to save the ship.
You're just like just throw the cargo overboard and we'll figure it out later.
Which means Christian and his comics publisher, their insurance company,
could be on the hook for damages sustained to the bright pink ship.
But while we had Ryan on the line, might as well ask him the big question.
What does a potential toll booth in the Strait of Hormuz mean for global shipping and the global economy?
He was like, well, on one level, it might just mean one more fee that makes everything a little more expensive.
But also, it might mean a huge shift.
Because for 70-something years, the U.S. Navy has been guaranteeing the free flow of government.
goods throughout the world's waterways.
We really kind of take it for granted that that anybody can just sail anywhere and nobody's
going to attack your ships and there won't be pirates and other countries, navies attacking
you.
But this is a pretty new phenomenon.
And so this is a huge challenge to that order, which says, well, maybe the U.S.
Navy can't guarantee freedom of navigation anymore.
How important is this freedom of navigation, freedom of the seas for global commerce?
It's the heart of globalization.
And so it's global commerce.
On some level, it's the modern world that we're all used to.
Yeah, the modern global economy requires the free flow of goods around the world.
And that is in the balance right now.
Which might explain why the Trump administration has made opening up the straight a priority in their negotiations with Iran.
And responded with their own blockade to prevent ships from going to and coming from.
Iran because freedom of the seas is such a big deal.
I mean, it would be a really big deal if you had a state in Iran that is now able to kind of
dictate terms to the United States of America as the end of American order.
Like, that's the big deal.
Like, the dollar value of the toll, like, doesn't really matter.
But if you're saying, hey, the U.S. Navy is no longer the big boss of the seas, like, wow,
that really changes quite a few things.
I think would cause a lot of companies that are thinking in a big system's big picture kind of way to say,
hey, maybe doing global long-distance trade is too risky.
Maybe we should think about regional supply chains.
Maybe the U.S. American companies start thinking about manufacturing in Latin America or even back in the U.S.
And that would be an enormous shift.
Speaking of Enormous, after the break, an update from Christian on his books,
and the bright pink ship.
He's got some news.
Hey, how's it going?
Good. How about you?
Good.
A few days after I first talked with Christian, the comics guy,
I got him back on the line.
I was excited to tell him about all I'd learned,
the bad news about the law of general average,
about what I'd learned about the tolling system from Hamid
and his sort of offer to smooth things over.
But before I got to any of this,
Christian told me that he had news.
The books all this time were in India.
What?
Yes.
Apparently, the books were in India.
Christian had thought that they made it onto the bright pink ship, the One Majesty,
but that ship got way laid in the Persian Gulf.
The ship never even made it to India.
So the books never got loaded onto it.
They were never on the ship?
No, they were never on the ship.
Ah.
What a relief.
Yeah, no potential toll fine.
No toll, no law of general average, no blockade.
In fact, just the day before, the books have been loaded onto a different ship, also bright pink.
Apparently, that's the vibe of the shipping company.
The ship has officially set sail.
They're on their way.
Yes.
Incredible.
He says he's hoping the books will only go on sale about a month late.
If this current sailing schedule holds, which I am pretty confident at this point, it will, mid-July.
You're confident in anything in global shipping at this point?
Well, there's only so many things that can go wrong with one particular book, so I feel like these books have exhausted that.
Negotiations between the U.S. and Iran broke down over the weekend.
And a big sticking point is the future of the Strait of Hormuz.
if and when negotiations start back up
there are kind of four main options for the street
and open waterway with no tolls
a toll booth where Iran gets the tolls
one where the U.S. gets the tolls or I don't know
one where they split them.
All we do know is that the fate of global commerce
and the global economy kind of depends
on how it all shakes out.
Hey fellow Southern Californians
Thursday the 16th of April
aka this week,
Sarah Gonzalez, Jack Corbett, Alex Mayossi, myself, are going to be with a very special guest, live on stage, chatting about the Planet Money book.
And there's also more tour dates throughout the rest of the country and one even in Canada that should be equally as cool.
This episode of Planet Money was produced by James Sneed.
It was edited by Jess Jang, fact checked by Sarah Waters, and engineered by Kwayze Lee.
Alex Goldmark is our executive producer.
I'm Nick Fountain. This is NPR. Thank you for listening.
