Planet Money - Re-imagining the energy grid ... through batteries (Two Indicators)

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

When it comes to solar and wind power, renewable energy has always had a caveat: it can only run when the wind blows or the sun shines.The idea of a battery was floated around to make renewables available 24/7. For years, it existed as an expensive, little-used technology. Then in 2021, it took off.In this episode, we explore how this new energy market works in two states: California and Texas.In California, there is now enough grid-scale battery storage to power millions of homes — at least for a few hours — and it's growing fast. What does this success mean for the grid, and how did the state support it?Then, we visit Texas, whose approach is more free-market rodeo. The state has the second-most battery storage capacity in the U.S. And in Texas, their system was recently put to the test. So, can these large-scale batteries can help prevent blackouts?These two stories come from our sister show The Indicator, which recently reported a series about the electric battery market.Today's show was hosted by Cooper Katz McKim, Darian Woods and Wailin Wong. The original Indicator episodes were produced by Cooper Katz McKim and Corey Bridges, and edited by Kate Concannon. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez and engineered by Jimmy Keeley and Neil Tevault. Alex Goldmark is Planet Money's executive producer.Help support Planet Money and hear our bonus episodes by subscribing to Planet Money+ in Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org/planetmoney.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Nancy has witnessed the state's vision for clean energy firsthand. Soon after she was elected, a bill was being considered to get more of their electricity than ever from renewables. But there was a problem. When the sun doesn't shine or the wind doesn't blow, there's no power. Several people approached Nancy to raise this issue. We're going to have to figure out how to store it. And one way to store energy?

A battery. Extra solar and wind electrons that aren't needed on the grid could flow into a battery. Extra solar and wind electrons that aren't needed on the grid could flow into a battery. The problem was though grid scale storage wasn't really a thing. Nonetheless, Nancy was optimistic that eventually it would happen if you created a market signal. So she introduced a bill requiring utilities to purchase a certain percentage of battery storage when they bought electricity. Nancy remembers pushback. That this was just pie in the sky. This is not real.

Like another California pipe dream. Still, in 2010, the bill passed, although nothing really happened. Grid scale batteries remained a pie in the sky concept for years. And then all of a sudden, in 2021, batteries took off. Hello and welcome to Planet Money. I'm Cooper Katz-McKim. And I'm Darian Woods. After years of nothing, grid-scale batteries are now widely used and growing fast.

Basically the same tech that's in your phone is now helping power millions of homes across America. How did that happen? And what does the new found success mean for the grid? Today on the show we go on a kind of road trip for electric battery storage. Two stories from two states. We'll begin in California where battery storage first took off in the US to see how the state supported its wind and solar energy markets. And then we'll look at how battery storage was put to the test in

Texas. These stories come from Planet Money's sister show, The Indicator, where we just ran a mini-series on batteries and energy. This message comes from WISE, the app for doing things in other currencies. Sending or spending money abroad, hidden fees may be taking a cut. With Wwise, you can convert between up to 40 currencies at the mid-market exchange rate. Visit wise.com. TNCs apply.

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I am back indeed from the very sunny California where there are enough batteries to power 13 million homes. I wanted to go because I have no idea how batteries actually work. And I hope you learned this on the trip. I did. I connected with a battery storage facility that's connected to a solar farm, spread across 2,900 acres. That is huge.

It's the equivalent of more than 2,000 football fields. It really did feel huge. It took a long time to drive through. The whole operation is called Cal Flats. It's owned by an independent power producer called Arivon. Justin Johnson is the chief operating officer there. We grab my hard hat back there, Alan? Yeah.

Justin gave me a tour of the facility along with Anand Narayanan, Arivon's senior VP of asset management. I lost for a couple of hard hats. At the battery storage facility itself, there are rows of white containers not much taller than a person. I learned this is where it all happens. It's like a series of shelves. Like imagine server racks, right? So it's a bunch of server racks, like you have all your PCs

and the bunch of like PCs stacked together, which have the batteries in them, the in water inside them. There's three per door. So they're stacked. If you open up one of these doors. Could we open one of them up? No. Yeah, we don't have the keys unfortunately.

Yeah, they're operating. Yeah, that was a pretty fast no, Gufair. I just wanted to open the door. I don't see the problem here. The do not press button was so tempting. If I see a button, I want to press it. Either way, they told me that each one of these cabinets holds the problem here. The do not press button was so tempting. If I see a button, I want to press it. Either way, they told me that each one of these cabinets holds the batteries themselves. They're about the size of a large briefcase and are manufactured by Tesla.

The batteries are similar to what would go in a Tesla car, which is also made up of lithium ion. And this site is packed with energy, right? I heard that Cal Flats has enough storage capacity to power 60,000 homes over an afternoon. I know, yeah. It is wild. Justin told me how this all works. There's excess solar in the middle of the day, so the power price can be low.

So we can take the extra solar that's produced in the day from the arrays and store it for use later in the evening when it's needed most when the sun is going down. That hum you're hearing behind Justin is the HVAC system keeping the batteries cool because they're charging from that solar energy and probably also the heat just from how hot it is outside. The sun was very strong when I visited. Yeah let's move to the shade. Yeah. That's like rule number one in solar is don't visit in the summer either. Sounds like you might've got a bit of a California tan, Cooper. Yeah, the sun is not my friend as a redheaded man.

So it sounds like you'll be happier when the sun goes down, which is when a Rivan sells the power when prices are high. Rivan then moves the renewable electrons onto underground cables to transmission lines to the grid. For this power specifically, Arrivon has two customers that buy this power, Apple and PG&E, California's biggest electricity provider. It's such a big facility. There's so much power generated that it's hard to find one buyer to take it all.

So we ended up splitting the output to two different buyers of electricity. That means that somebody's home say in Fresno they turn on their lights and yeah we're literally anyone who takes PG&E. Exactly yeah this power is kind of I mean an electron's an electron it's hard to tell where it's going from once it hits the transmission line but. Alright so how do we actually get here? Remember that utility providers were saying to Nancy Skinner that this was some kind of pie in the sky, California dreaming concept. Yeah, we put that question to Justin.

So like all the scale and advancements that went into the manufacturing to make it, to bring the scale up and then to drive the cost down. It just weren't there yet to do it economically. So we're at that really nice intersection where the technology's improved enough, the cost has come down at that intersection where you're meeting the demand at the price they need to be successful, where it allows us to build these sorts of plants to serve that need. And so what we're left with is a totally new way

for renewables to interact with the electricity grid. The power created by the sun or wind can go further now, tapped into whenever a customer like Apple or PG&E wants it. So that was one of the big knock on renewables. It always has been. It's intermittent. But that hurt us financially as well, because we were paid less for our power because we were intermittent.

So when you pair storage with solar, now we can, the people we sell power to, it's more valuable to them because we can provide them power when they want it most. We can provide them a fixed shape, meaning tell us how much power you want in any given hour of the day and we'll design a plant to meet your needs exactly. This new reliability in renewables is very attractive to tech companies like Google, Microsoft, Amazon. They already use solar and wind power,

but they have power-hungry data centers to feed things like artificial intelligence. So they're buying up battery storage, too. Tech companies aren't alone. Electricity demand is spiking worldwide due to data centers, but also electric cars, trains, cryptocurrency mining. Demand is also coming from grid services, like serving as a backup power if there's ever a blackout due to maybe an overworked grid. I think if you have a solar plant or a battery plant or a combination anywhere

in the U.S. that's ready to be built these days, you can find an off-taker, you know, someone to sell the power. There's just tremendous demand for it. In 2019, California had limited battery storage capacity. In April of last year, batteries could power 10 million homes for a period of time. Just six months later, that number grew to 13 million homes for a period of time. Just six months later, that number grew to 13 million homes. California has a long history of expanding its alternative energy sources. Historically, the Golden State has been way ahead of the curve on renewables, going all the way back to the 1980s with support and

subsidies from both Republican and Democratic governors. But when it comes to the ongoing battery expansion, Justin Johnson says things are just getting started. But this phenomenon you've seen in California, it's going to occur elsewhere in the U.S. Just because California has the highest penetration level of renewables anywhere in the U.S. and it created the demand for storage as penetration levels increase throughout the U.S. as they have in Texas and elsewhere,

the storage market is going to follow in those areas too. And everyone's ready for that. Justin's company, Arrevan, believes in grid-scale battery storage so much, it's invested $2 billion in the space. They already have five facilities in California, including Cal Flats, and it's looking at six more. California got where it was because of planning from politicians like Nancy Skinner, but in Texas they take a bit more of a hands-off free market rodeo type way of doing things. So let's go to Texas. I'm going to hop out here and Darian let you and indicator

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Tour. To learn more, visit npr.org slash tiny desk contest. On a hot September day in 2023, the operators of Texas's power grid were getting nervous. The warmth from an unusually hot summer was pushing later into the year. That meant more air conditioners, more fans, and more staying inside. But keeping up with that thirst for electricity was a scramble. The sun was setting earlier as the summer gave way to fall, and that meant less solar power in the evening. That day the wind was forecast to be low, so not much wind power just when people got home and turned on their ACs and TVs and ovens. Also, a few power plants were out of commission. Watching all of this was Stephanie Smith. She's

the chief operating officer of Eolian, which is a company that, among other things, builds battery plants in Texas. It was just one of those perfect storms of events where a few went offline at the same time in the DFW area. For Texans, the deadly winter blackouts from a couple years earlier were front of mind. And the question that evening in September

was, could Texas's grid batteries save the day this time? Texas's approach to the power grid is rather different than the one in California. California takes more of a longer-term planning approach. Project approval is finalized after more assessment of how generators might fit into these plans. And the state offers long-term contracts to give electricity generators certainty before they invest in, say, a new grid-scale battery project.

Texas, on the other hand, is a more boisterous free market. It's not that Texas has no regulation or government intervention whatsoever. It's just comparatively hands-off. And that can put companies wanting to install batteries at the whim of the invisible hand. But to Stephanie Smith, the chief operating officer for Eolian, that's the way her battery building

company likes it. We'll have more risk in some cases. But yeah, that's the idea. We're more risk, more reward. In Texas, if the price goes very low, well, then maybe some operators need to stop producing power. If there's a spike in the price of electricity, great. That gives operators like Aeolian the incentive to put more electricity onto the grid. And one opportunity for reward that Stephanie's company saw was

in helping top up the grid for short periods of time when a lot of people wanted electricity but there wasn't enough being generated. The company sees that opportunity by building giant battery plants. Picture a football field full of shipping containers and you kind of know what a battery project looks like at the scale that we're building. Imagine rows and rows of those shipping containers filled with like hundreds of electric car batteries. The easiest use case to imagine is overnight, when the sun's not shining on solar panels. You know, the price of electricity could be high, and Eolian then releases some of its batteries.

And then, when the sun is shining the next day and electricity is cheap, it tops back up those batteries. But actually, a big part of what Eolian does is what's called ancillary services. This is kind of like top-up and maintenance to ensure a big part of what Aeolian does is what's called ancillary services. This is kind of like top-up and maintenance to ensure a steady stream of electricity through the wires, regardless of whether it was originally generated by renewable or fossil fuel sources. By putting a little juice into the wires when it's running low and taking it out when it could get overloaded, the overall grid becomes more stable.

You don't want excitement on a grid. You don't want surprises. And batteries are amazing at doing all of those things and reacting within microseconds of whenever their need is. And that day in September, 2023 was the ultimate test of whether Texas's free market batteries, like the ones that Stephanie's company owns, could stabilize the grid and avoid blackouts. And you remember these moments because for anyone in the company working on this stuff,

it gives you a heart attack every time it happens. Demand was high, generation was low, at least in the places that needed it. The power grid operators pleaded with Texans to limit their power use. They just issued another notice to conserve energy. It's a step up from the WeatherWatch. As evening came, Texas's power reserves dwindled. A bunch of wind electricity was being produced in the south, but was overloading the wires, taking them to the north,

where a lot of the demand was. This was a dangerous situation of congestion. At one point, people in Stephanie's company noticed the signs of a huge gap in electricity needs. dangerous situation of congestion. At one point, people in Stephanie's company noticed the signs of a huge gap in electricity needs. The grid operator sounded an elevated emergency alert, the alert just below the level of potential rolling blackouts. And beyond just alerts, the electricity market was going ballistic. A megawatt hour of electricity usually goes for a little over $100.

It was now hitting $5,000. If there was ever an incentive for companies to discharge their batteries, it was now. It was unexpected and went really fast. Because batteries can react within microseconds, a bunch of batteries jumped in, including ours, and stopped that frequency fall and brought the grid back into balance and kept the lights on. So that was a fun experience. It's very stressful. Stephanie's got some threshold for fun.

Yeah, living on the edge of the grid. Oh, that should be their new company tagline. Iolian's batteries drew down their electricity. Given that high electricity price of $5,000, they were presumably rewarded handsomely for doing so. As the night progressed, Texans turned off their washing machines and microwaves and went to bed. Partly thanks to batteries, there had been no blackouts in Texas. It's like the duck paddling. You guys are the feet paddling very fast and the duck just cruises along the pond. That's exactly right. If we're doing our jobs, nobody knows. I nearly had a heart attack,

but you kept your AC on. So is this a story about the beauty of prices and visibly guiding company behavior all around Texas? Is this a free market fable? Starring a duck and a battery? Maybe called Friedrich Hi-Quack? Oh, Darian, someone get you a book deal. Well, the debate isn't settled. Critics argue that Texas shouldn't have been that close to a blackout in the first place. That a little more central planning, like in in California might have been helpful. What's more, batteries in Texas are agnostic

about whether they're helping smooth out renewable or fossil fuel generators. More planning could ensure the batteries are specifically focused on helping wind and solar generators speeding up the energy transition to a low carbon grid. Whatever the case, the Texas system is encouraging companies to build

a lot of grid-scale batteries. From basically nothing in 2020, by 2024 the state had enough batteries to power an entire small city for a day. In the battery race of California, Texas is coming second, but it is catching up fast. Sounds like the tortoise and the hare. Yeah, which one's the tortoise and which one's the hare? Ooh, stay tuned. There's a third episode of the Indicator series all about what it takes to produce lithium

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