Planet Money - The economic indicator of the year

Episode Date: December 30, 2021

Will it be inflation? Striketober? The supply chain? Our hosts make their case, and the choice is up to you.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Planet Money from NPR. Hello, I'm Amanda Aronchik, and I am here with Stacey Vanek-Smith. Hello, Stacey. Hi, Amanda. How are you? I am good. Stacey is the host of our sister podcast, The Indicator. How do you describe your podcast, Stacey? The Indicator is basically like Planet Money, but a little bit shorter and every day. You know, the fun size candy bars? Yes, I do. They are fun and delicious. I like
Starting point is 00:00:31 to think of it. We're like the fun size Planet Money. Right, right. A little bit shorter, just as delicious. Sometimes more delicious, I would argue, depending on the mood you're in. Okay, well, I'm not going to go there. Hello and welcome to Planet Money. So today on our show on Planet Money, we are going to play what seems to be becoming a indicator tradition, which is Family Feud, where a bunch of indicator and Planet Money hosts face off to decide what's the one economic indicator to rule them all. This episode you're about to hear answers the question, what is the biggest economic indicator of 2021? But before we get there, Stacey, this is not the first time that you have been the host of a Family Feud indicator edition, is it?
Starting point is 00:01:17 Well, this was born out of necessity, honestly, Amanda. So we do indicators of the week a lot of times on Fridays. But there was this one week in late July where so many just sort of huge barn burner-y type indicators came out and we couldn't figure out what to do. And so we were just like, let's invite some people over from Planet Money and we will all make a case for why whatever indicator we are assigned is the most important. Okay. And there were these really big ones, right? There was gross domestic product, which is the sum total of all the goods and services an economy produces. It's a huge economic indicator. There was also the Case-Shiller Housing Index.
Starting point is 00:01:52 The housing market has been on this very wild ride, so that's a big one. We had consumer confidence, which is so indicative of how much people are going to spend and if they're going to invest. So that's a huge one. We also had durable goods orders. Those are like orders for big things like refrigerators and washing machines. And they're often seen as kind of a tell because they're a more expensive item. So they're sort of an investment grade items in a certain way. Oh, and then we also had corporate earnings, which were also sort of shocking and eye-popping.
Starting point is 00:02:21 So we debated all of those. That is a lot of big indicators in one week. It was. Yes, it was. And was there a winner? There was a winner. The Wonderful Mary Childs won. She was fighting on behalf of durable goods orders. And I have to say, she had this stroke of genius because she made her case with her dryer going in the background,
Starting point is 00:02:43 her dryer, of course, being a durable good. This indicator is a monthly report from the Commerce Department that shows how much businesses are ordering of stuff that's meant to last at least three years, things like washing machines, tractors, airplanes, computers. She won by, like, kind of a lot. And how was a winner declared? We had a poll on Twitter, and people just emailed in their votes. Very good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Well, this is Indicator Family Feud round two back because it was so great the first time. And the stakes have never been higher. It is the biggest economic indicators of 2021. And the feud is starting right after this break. Hey, everyone, it is time for Family Feud. OK, so we are getting to the end of this year, 2021, which, of course course brings us to the question of like, what was the biggest story of the year? What was the indicator of indicators? And of course, you know, this is kind of a stiff competition. So I just figured I would invite our little family over from Planet Money and ask them to make a case for what they think the indicator of the year, the indicator of indicators, should be.
Starting point is 00:04:06 We've got our wonderful Planet Money correspondent, Erica Barras. Hi, Erica. Hey, hey. We've got our reigning champion, Planet Money correspondent, Mary Childs. Hi, hi, hello. Hello. Yay. The woman with the title.
Starting point is 00:04:21 We have the wonderful and amazing Kenny Malone. I've been training for weeks. Let's do this. He's been training for weeks. And we have the fantastic and wonderful Robert Smith. Welcome, Robert. No whammies. No whammies.
Starting point is 00:04:37 No whammies. Yes. And me. I also brought my own indicator of the year. So here are the rules. We all prepared something for our indicator of the year. So here are the rules. We all prepared something for our indicator of the year. We're making our case. We will make that case in 60-ish seconds or less.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And in the end, you, the listener, will vote. You will pick the indicator of the year, who you think made the best case for the indicator of indicators for 2021. Okay. Robert Smith, tell me what your topic is and then give us a little 3-2-1 and I'll time you while you make your case. All right, I think it's entirely clear to anyone who's paid attention this year
Starting point is 00:05:15 that the indicator of the year is inflation. It's the word of the year. It's the indicator of the year. It is the story of the year. Did you hear that sound? That sound was deflation. Everyone's bored. All right. I'm pumping myself up. I'm pumping myself up. In three, two, one.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Supply chain bottlenecks come and go. Labor numbers go up and down. But serious inflation in the United States happens once in a generation. This year's inflation isn't just the indicator of the year. It may define the entire decade. Think about it. What do you know about the 1970s? Bell-bottom jeans, disco, and high inflation. Inflation destroyed presidents.
Starting point is 00:05:57 In order to fight it, the Federal Reserve had to drive the country into a recession. Now, that was double-digit inflation, and we're not there yet. Last time I checked, prices are up 6.2% from a year earlier. But I would argue that inflation is the biggest story of the year because of what's about to happen next. The Fed has already indicated it will more quickly reduce economic stimulus. Fed Chair Jay Powell just had to admit we can no longer use the term transitory about these price hikes. The stock market's cratering, Republicans are already running on the impacts of inflation, and polls show they could take back the House and Senate. You can pretend it's not happening, but it's
Starting point is 00:06:33 already too late. Inflation is in the driver's seat in this economy, and it's now the indicator of the year. All right, Erica Barris, Planet Money correspondent extraordinaire. All right, my indicator of the year is the supply chain. So this is Family Feud. And because this time of year is so busy and to prevent any feuds within my own family, I thought I'd repackage a poem by the great poet, also Dr. William Carlos Williams. And here it goes. This is just to say I have not yet ordered the presents that are probably stuck on a container ship, which you are most likely expecting on Christmas morning. Forgive me, I should have clicked place order and now it's too late. So the story of the year is supply chain shortages. To be
Starting point is 00:07:15 fair, it's a story that started not just this year, but it's escalated. Quick rundown, the whole supply chain is broken, things people need, they're not getting anywhere, they're just stuck on ships, they're idling at sea, they're on port terminals, and it intersects with all the other big stories of the year, like labor shortages, there aren't enough drivers, there aren't enough warehouse workers, not enough factory workers to make the stuff, inflation, there's not enough stuff, that increases competition, prices get higher, kind of an issue. And one more thing, I did order my gifts months ago because I was paying attention to the biggest story of the year. And time.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Oh my gosh. William. Oh my gosh. William, in the middle of your indicator. Bravo. I just heard the part where you talked about inflation and I thought you were right on about that. That's the only thing you heard.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It's quite a strong filter you've got there, Robert. Kenny Malone, are you ready to bring your 60-second indicator of the year? Yes. And I just want to say, remember how Power Rangers, like Power Rangers were all very important and very powerful, but when they were all together, they were a uniquely powerful being. They were a force. Well, that is my indicator. I don't disagree with any of my colleagues that these are important
Starting point is 00:08:30 indicators. But to me, the indicator of the year is the word trillion. Hear me out here for a second. Okay. I shall begin with a few pandemic headlines. President Trump signs $2 trillion coronavirus rescue package. Federal Reserve takes additional actions to provide up to $2.3 trillion in loans. Biden signs landmark $1.2 trillion U.S. infrastructure bill. Friends, listeners, indicator, kin, billions of dollars is nothing. We have entered the paradigm of the trillion once-in-a-lifetime generation pieces of spending from the government that come now with more economic questions than ever. Has the role of government fundamentally changed? Did this save the economy during the pandemic? How will
Starting point is 00:09:14 this affect inflation and labor and supply chain and education and climate change? This story touches every other story you have heard or will hear defended today in ways that we do not even know yet. And so that is why I will concede. Government spending is not the story of the year. It's not the indicator of the decade like Roberts. It is the story of the century. I'll go back to decades if I have to. But the fact is the U.S. government tacked on those zeros, and we will be reporting on this for years and years to come. I conclude today by paraphrasing that one quote that I always forget, a trillion here, a trillion there. And pretty soon we are talking about real money
Starting point is 00:09:52 and the real economic story of the year. Thank you. What comes after trillion, by the way, Kenny? No one knows yet. And that's the question we're all asking ourselves, Stacey. So we'll see. Okay. I see Mary Childs and you're the current reigning champion. I am. I have the golden trophy. My most important, no, not mine, everyone's, the most important indicator of the year is labor. For economists who study the labor market, it is a chaotic and unpredictable time, but it's also super fascinating. And for a lot of workers, it is the best market they've ever seen. First off, workers have leverage. Did you hear about Striketober? People have been walking off the job to demand better
Starting point is 00:10:31 pay, safer working conditions, sick leave, healthcare. Companies are paying higher wages. Hourly earnings have gone up. And did you hear about the great resignation? People are quitting their jobs in record numbers, which is maybe contributing to the so-called labor shortage, where a lot of companies are saying they can't find workers. The unemployment rate has dropped almost 4%. That includes improvements for Black, Hispanic, Asian workers, for men, for women. We are regaining some of the horrifically, unevenly lost ground from earlier. But we still have fewer workers than pre-pandemic, which is kind of the big mystery. Like, where is everybody? So for a while, people thought that maybe it was the additional unemployment benefits, but those
Starting point is 00:11:03 expired and the problem didn't. So is it like not wanting to get sick in a pandemic or maybe people are caring for a sick loved one? Maybe they retired and they're like, no, I'm good. I'm out. Maybe they dropped out because their kids or, you know, schools keep closing, their daycare is too expensive. Maybe it's years of draconian immigration laws or maybe everyone is a crypto billionaire and a TikTok influencer. But what we do know is that this is the biggest and best story of 2021, bar none, because it affects all of us, and we all love a mystery. That was, like, very fast. You packed with information. Thank you. I have a lot to say.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Mary, would you say your script inflated? I would actually say, nominally, yes, but I would say the real script actually remained stagnant. That's a deep cut. That's a beautiful answer. Thank you. It kind of undercuts my argument, though. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:50 My economic story of the year is a little different, and it might sound a little quirky at first, but I think once I finish making my case, there will be no doubt in minds that I have landed on, in fact, the economic story of the year and of the millennium. Whoa. Since we seem to be inflating. My economic indicator of the year is $69.3 million. And this is what somebody paid for an NFT from the artist Beeple. Of course, an NFT is like a digital painting or a digital piece of property that you can own. And the reason it's my indicator of the year is not so much the NFT phenomenon alone, but it is what it represents, which is this amazing amount of money swirling all around the globe looking for anything to give it a return on investment.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Someone on TikTok started as a joke a cryptocurrency called Scampoin. Within one hour, it was worth $70 million. The junk bond market is going crazy. People are pouring money into stocks. There is so much money roving around the planet right now looking for a return on investment. Of course, the last time we saw this was right before the big housing crash. This is, we are in the giant pool of money again.
Starting point is 00:13:02 This is like planet money's DNA. And I'm a little worried with all of this money coursing around the globe that, you know, bubbles could happen. And hopefully we will not end up where we did back in 2008. But I think this is why this is the story of the year, because there is a lot of money chasing returns and it's showing up in all kinds of ways. Cryptocurrency, NFTs, junk bond market, the stock market, everything. Stacey, it's good. Beeples to bubbles.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Beeples to bubbles. And I have to say, since the voting for this will take place online, how do you think crypto and NFTs are going to do on a Twitter poll? Come on! She's stacking the deck. She's like, I love crypto, bros.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I'll be tallying the votes myself. I just want to say it's so nice to see you all. I miss you all. This has inflated my Grinch heart three sizes. And isn't that the kind of inflation that matters? Oh, the inflation of love. That was really beautiful. Love-flation.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And it's real love, not nominal. It's real. That's right. That's right. I think that's the economic indicator of the year. Love, love, love. It's important that the audience knows that Stacey is wearing like a track jacket and is now holding like a cartoon stopwatch with like buttons that are bigger than anyone would need. I ordered it special. It's really hard to order a normal stopwatch now. Like they're almost not available. They all do like strange calculations to like or they're like Bluetooth enabled. I just wanted a regular stopwatch with a stop and start button. That concludes Indicators of the Year, Family Feud Edition.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Tell us which indicator you think should be crowned the indicator of all indicators for 2021. You can tweet your answer at the indicator or you can email them indicator at NPR.org. Put indicator of indicators in the subject line. And to find out who won, plus the surprise prize, you'll have to go and listen to the indicator in the new year. We love to hear from you. Email us at planetmoney at npr.org. I will admit I single-handedly go through all of the emails because I love them so much.
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