Planet Money - The little pet fish that saved a town in the Amazon
Episode Date: March 18, 2026The cardinal tetra is one of the most popular pet fish in the world. They look like little red and blue sequins. You've almost certainly seen them at the pet store or the fish tank at your dentist's o...ffice. They're everywhere. Not so long ago, most of the world's supply of cardinals came from just one place. It's a little town deep in the rainforests of Brazil, where locals still catch these fish by hand. But the business that this town has relied on for decades has come under threat. Recently, we hopped on a plane to see this unusual economy for ourselves — and, two different visions for how to save it. For more information about these fish, check out Project Piaba. Pre-order the Planet Money book and get a free gift. / Subscribe to Planet Money+Listen free: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the NPR app or anywhere you get podcasts.Facebook / Instagram / TikTok / Our weekly Newsletter.This episode was hosted by Jeff Guo. It was co-reported and produced by Luis Gallo. It was edited by Marianne McCune, fact-checked by Sierra Juarez and engineered by Kwesi Lee. Alex Goldmark is Planet Money’s executive producer.To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below:See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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A couple weeks ago, Planet Money producer Luis Gayo and I found ourselves on a dark, glassy river in the middle of the Amazon rainforest.
We climbed into a small canoe.
Don't tilt us.
After settling in a bit.
You have to be in the middle.
Wait, always in the middle.
We headed up river.
And we're off.
We were here to investigate a change that's been happening in the worldwide,
a multi-billion dollar business of pretty little fish.
You know, those tropical fish you often see at the pet store,
the neon-colored ones, the ones that shimmer-like sequins,
some of them actually come from the wild.
In fact, one of the world's most popular species of pet fish
is caught right here in the Brazilian Amazon.
Our guide for the day is Valderiz Cicada.
People call him Deco.
Today we're going to do, today we'll do what can't be to pay.
Deco says, get ready.
for an adventura, an adventure, to see what we can catch.
Will you ask Deco just to tell us a little bit more about where we're going?
Our producer, Luis, who speaks Portuguese, actually he speaks a lot of languages, was interpreting.
He's saying that we're going up river to get a better sense of where the fish live,
because they live in shallow water.
The river that we're on is called the Rio Negro.
the Black River. It's one of the main tributaries of the Amazon. And for several months out of
the year, the river level rises and floods the surrounding rainforests, creating this dense tropical
swamp. It's like we're in the middle of a forest, but the ground is water. Totally flooded.
Deco steers us through a maze of braided waterways deeper and deeper into the forest.
Oh, ow. Oh, dead. Careful with the branches. So the Rio Negro is called this because the water here
is actually black. It looks like we're floating on a river of black tea. For Deco, who catches pretty
little fish for a living, this unique water is the reason he has a job. You see, the color comes from
the plants of the jungle. As their leaves and bark soak in the river, they release chemicals
called tannins that stain the water. It is literally a kind of rainforest tea. And just like
regular tea, the water here is acidic. It's slightly sour. So the fish that you find
here. They are adapted to this weird water. This is where they reproduce. And for a long time,
the Amazon was the only place where they reproduced. Eventually, we reach a quiet, darker part of the
forest. Deco leans overboard, and he starts flicking water with his fingers. He tells us that
is how you attract the fish. Deco is in his 50s. He's tan and compact, with big bare paw hands.
He dips his net into the water, and when he lifts it out,
Oh, there they are!
There are about a dozen of these little fish, like little squirming eyebrows.
Oh, they're jumping around!
These ones have electric blue spots on their heads.
He scoops them into a big plastic tub.
So how much would one of these fish cost?
Deco says in Brazil, you might pay about two Brazilian reich.
That's about 40 cents.
Out of that, he gets paid a few cents, which for a single fish is not a lot, but the river
is teeming with these and all kinds of pretty little fish that you can sell.
On a good day, Deco says he can collect 10,000 of them, filling up tub after tub.
Over the last few decades, people here have taken hundreds of millions of tropical fish
from these flooded forests, selling them to aquariums and pet stores all over the world.
These fish have been the main economic lifeline for most people in this remote part of Brazil.
I started to pesca with 14 years old.
Deco told us he started working as a fisherman when he was 14 years old.
And now...
He's 54.
He's 54.
Thanks to these tiny fish, Deco's been able to raise five kids, send them all to school.
He's proud of that.
But Deco told us he's not sure how much longer he'll be able to keep doing this job.
He said he's afraid eventually this job won't even exist anymore.
Because orders for these fish are way, way down.
The market for a pretty little fish from this part of the Amazon is drying up.
And that is the reason we're here, to understand how that happened.
And how some folks in this little town are trying to fight that.
Hello and welcome to Planet Money. I'm Jeff Guo.
Today on the show, we are in Brazil on a mission to try.
trace an unusual supply chain that connects this remote town in the Amazon to pet stores all over the world,
a supply chain that has come under threat.
Not because the fish are disappearing.
This is not one of those stories.
No, this problem is an age-old business problem.
The fishermen and women of the Rio Negro are facing competition, alarming competition, from thousands of miles away.
We first met our fisherman deco in a town called Barcelos.
There are no roads that lead to Barcellos.
It's a few dozen streets crammed along the banks of the Rio Negro between the river and the rainforest.
There's an airstrip, a floating gas station, and a big blue and white church.
In Brazil, Barcellos is known as the capital of ornamental fish.
Here we are.
At one point, 80% of the economy here depended on the aquarium fish trade.
These fish are so important that every year, this tiny town celebrates them with a humongous festival.
It's called the Festival of the Ornamental Fish.
We've been told that this thing is so spectacular that we have to see it for ourselves.
When we arrive, the whole town is getting ready.
It's feeling hot.
All along the main strip, we see fish signs and streamers hanging off the lampposts.
Like you know something's about to happen.
In the town square, there's a 10-foot statue of Jesus.
The pedestal that he's standing on is covered in fish art.
And there's actually a specific fish that we keep seeing over and over again.
This fish is on that Jesus statue. It's on all the banners around town.
Oh my god, everyone's wearing t-shirts with this fish on it.
This fish, it is called the Cardinal Tetra. This is the one that Deco spends most of his time trying to collect.
It is bright blue with a neon red stripe down the belt.
It's like a little iridescent sunflower seat.
There were some on display in the tanks near the town square.
There they are.
So tiny.
The Cardinal Tetra is one of the most popular aquarium fish in the world.
In the sunlight, they glow.
Yeah.
You have almost certainly seen a Cardinal Tetra at some point in your life.
And the person who first told us about the Cardinal Tetra and this town and this festival
is a guy who has been doing everything he can to keep fishermen like Deco in business.
His name is Scott Dowd.
We met him by the docks near the church.
Hi.
Oh, it's great to finally meet you in person.
Nice to meet you in person, too.
Scott is a conservation biologist.
He used to work at the New England Aquarium.
And the first time he came to Barcellos back in the 90s,
he wasn't worried about the fishing industry.
He was worried about the fish.
He told us that at one point,
Barcellos was almost single-handedly supplying
the global demand for Cardinal Tetris.
So he and his colleagues were trying to figure out
just how many Cardinal.
the locals were collecting every year.
And if that was sustainable.
We concluded that there were at least 20 million Cardinal Tetras
taken every year.
Every year?
From this region.
That sounds like a lot, but is that a lot?
Yeah, 20 million is a wicked lot, as we say in Boston.
And that was just the fish that they could count.
Scott estimated that the total number could even be double that.
40 million fish every year.
And at that point, I got a bit of a sinking feeling in my stomach.
And I felt this has got to be too much.
But then, as they started to study this part of the Amazon, they discovered two things.
First, that there were a lot of Cardinal Tetras in these waters.
So many that even 40 million was just a drop in the bucket.
They also learned that most of these Cardinal Tetras are doomed to live very short lives.
Every year there is a dry season, the river level goes down, and millions of them die.
So Scott and his colleagues started to think that collecting these Cardinal Tetras was maybe more than just sustainable.
It might actually be good for the Amazon and for the people of Barcelos, because if the locals could make a living collecting these fish who would otherwise die, then they wouldn't be doing destructive things to the Amazon.
Like, I don't know, burning it down to make room for cattle, which is a real thing that happens.
Scott remembers going to a big fish conservation conference to announce these findings.
And I was quite nervous to take this podium.
Here I was about to tell these people that have fish named after them.
They've written the textbooks that I grew up on.
I was about to tell them that I was advocating for the extraction of potentially 40 million individual freshwater fish every year.
And it's a good thing.
Usually conservation biologists, they are trying to advocate for the opposite, for keeping animals in nature.
So this was like telling a bunch of dentists, hey, here is a type of candy that is actually good for you.
I was prepared at that podium to be pelted with fruit and shoes.
But he wasn't.
His fellow conservation biologists looked at his data and believed what he was saying, that the Cardinal Tetra industry was helping and not hurting the environment.
I was almost in tears.
I was shocked.
So Scott kept coming back to Barcellos, year after year, getting closer and closer with the fishermen and fisherwomen.
Watching this annual festival get bigger and bigger.
Just this explosion of joy and happiness and celebration for these little fish and the impact they've had on this community.
Scott told us it's hard to understand until you see this festival.
The main event takes a big event.
place inside this incongruously large stadium.
Should we enter it?
Yeah, let's go take a look inside.
Yeah.
When Luis and I arrive, there is an announcer counting down to the start of the show.
Cinque minutes to go.
This is popping.
This stadium is called the Pia Bodromo.
Here in Barcelos, Piaaba is the word for little fish.
So this gleaming white, multi-story Piaba drone
is literally a stadium dedicated
dedicated to the little fish.
Three minutes to go.
Up in the box seats, we meet the mayor.
As well as Miss Barcelos.
What does you know me?
Isabelle.
Who was wearing this glittering dress in sash.
She told us her grandfather was a Cardinal Tetra fisherman.
And then we are seconds away.
The dramatic music.
Yeah.
The countdown 37.
seconds, 36, 34.
And the show is all.
Senoras and Seniors, with you,
Kati!
A man steps out in an enormous feathered headdress
and he's welcoming everybody to Barcelos,
the place where the cardinal is the king.
And then the dancers come out,
dozens and dozens of them,
in sequined costumes, doing all kinds of complicated choreography.
The whole crowd is singing along, we are cardinals, we are cardinals.
And then, okay, a five-story crane is pulled out, and there is Isabelli, you know, Miss
Barcelos.
She's wearing a tiara and descending in a basket covered in pink butterflies.
And then she's holding this bedazzled, oversized Cardinal Tetra and dancing with it.
And okay, we are not going to describe this whole event.
for you because, well, this went on for more than five hours straight.
No joke.
There were multiple costume changes.
They brought in parade floats.
We saw a fully motorized Cardinal Tetra the size of a houseboat.
Some of these floats even had fireworks shooting out of them.
This was better than any Super Bowl halftime shows you have ever seen.
But the whole time we were there, there was this one thought that kept bothering me.
Because here was all this hullabaloo about these.
fish about the Cardinal Tetra, about a business that we knew was in trouble.
The next day, when we talked to some actual fishermen and fisherwomen, they were telling us a
much less optimistic story about Barcellos and about the Cardinal Tetra.
Scott introduced us to one of them. Her name is Aramara Castro, Mara for short.
Mara called herself a proud Piabera warrior.
Piaberra is the local word for someone who collects these little fish, these little piaba.
And a lot of the local Piaberas and Piaberos, folks like Deco, they bring their fish to Mara.
She and her husband are kind of like fish brokers.
They sort the fish and send them downriver to the exporters, who, in turn, put the fish on planes and send them all around the world.
Marr told us the best time to be a Piabera harvesting these ornamental fish.
was back in the 90s and early 2000s.
That's when the business was at its peak.
She said, if only you could see the port back then,
all these boats would come in,
these beautiful little white boats with fishing nets on top,
the fishing nets of the piaberos.
There used to be hundreds of them out there fishing, Mar said.
But then something happened
that would turn Mara and Deco and Scott's world
completely upside down.
It was the year 2000.
Scott was back in his office at the New England Aquarium,
just flipping through one of his fish magazines,
when he saw a photo of a beautiful cardinal tetra.
But this wasn't a wild cardinal tetra from the Amazon.
No, this was a farmed cardinal from Florida.
You see, even though most aquarium fish are farmed...
Cardinal tetras come from very unusual water.
It wasn't easy to produce these fish on fish farms.
But now you had this article celebrating how fish breeders in Florida had cracked the coat.
Scott felt sick.
I actually scanned that page to show the fishers.
On his next trip to Barcellos, Scott delivered the news.
There were gasps, and it was quite an eye-opener.
Everybody knew what this meant.
The people of the Amazon no longer had.
the monopoly on this popular petfish.
Competition was coming.
And Scott says there is no way to overstate just how big of a deal this was.
The world changed for me and the world changed for Barcellos and it changed for the whole forest.
Everything changed.
Now, it didn't change all at once, but slowly these farmed cardinals started making their way
onto the market.
By the late 2000s, demand for Cardinal Tetras from the,
their natural habitat in the Amazon was plummeting.
Mara told us she saw a lot of her fellow Piaberos and Piaberas giving up
and wondered if she should give up too.
I was disperated.
And when the vendor was really,
ruin,
I mean,
I'm going to say,
So she was desperate.
She was like,
yeah,
like,
what are we going to do?
But, you know,
Mara calls herself a Piabera warrior.
So there was only one choice.
She was going to stay in the business.
stay and fight.
And Scott was going to help.
He's known Mara and her family since she was a little kid.
We thought, okay, it's game on.
We have to compete and we have to win.
What do we have to do to make Barcellos Cardinal Tetras
the most lucrative, the most attractive to everybody in the supply chain?
Scott now runs a nonprofit called Project Piaba,
which is a bunch of volunteers in the U.S. and Brazil trying to keep this
Cardinal Tetra industry alive in Barcellos. Marr told us the number of Piaberos and Piaberas
has gone from hundreds to only about 30 nowadays who are still actively fishing. And what they're up
against are these vast fish farms in Singapore and Vietnam and Malaysia who have all figured out
not only how to breed these Cardinal Tetras in captivity, but how to do it on an industrial
scale. And look at it this way. These Piaberas and Piaberas face a classic business problem.
someone has come out with a competing product and is eating their lunch.
So what do they do?
Well, if this was a business school case study, this is where the professor would ask,
what are your competitive advantages?
And what are your competitive disadvantages?
One disadvantage for the Wild Cardinals is that they come from this unusual water,
so they sometimes struggle to adapt to life in an aquarium.
So now Scott's been working with other scientists to design this special regimen to help Wildcott Cardinals
get used to life in captivity before they get sold.
We prepare them for their life in aquariums.
They receive the best fish food in the world.
We also acclimate them for pH.
So what I'm imagining is this fancy pants finishing school for fish.
Exactly.
Another disadvantage is that there's a lot of red tape in Brazil.
So it can take weeks to get these fish out of the country.
Mar and Scott have been lobbying the government to speed things up.
But Scott's major project recently is to try to promote what he sees.
as the wild cardinal Tetra's greatest advantage over their farmed cousins,
which is that these fish are wild.
They have a story.
So Scott's been working on a way for potential customers to trace exactly where their wild cardinals were caught,
and to learn about the Pia Bera or Piabera who caught them,
maybe even watch a video of the festival.
We're giving them access to the story of where their fish came from,
the people that caught their fish, the impact that has had on the lives of these rural Amazonians.
So it's kind of like the photo of the farmer that you see on the side of your fair trade coffee bag.
Do you really think you can bring this big business back?
I don't know. I can't stop trying, though.
Now, there is a version of this story that ends right here with a big,
question mark about the future of this little town that depends so much on this tiny
little fish. But while we were in Barcellos, we also learned about this other
fish, a much bigger fish. The story of that is after the break. One of the reasons we
came all the way to Barcellos is to try and understand what happens in a town
where the main industry, the industry that most people depended on, is fading away. And
And when we were out there in the flooded forests with Deco, he told us this story about the town's
history, a story that started to put everything that was happening to the Pia Barros and to
Barcelos into perspective.
It was late in the morning.
We had spent hours with Deco, watching him flick the water to attract the little fish.
He told us about the good old days.
Back when he was a teenager, being a fisherman was just what everybody did.
It was a good living.
He told us you would drink a lot and have fun and wouldn't plan for the future.
He said maybe we thought that things would just keep getting better and better.
But then it ended.
We'd gotten to a place on the water where it felt like the trees were closing in on us.
Deco was using a red paddle to steer us past the logs floating in the water,
and from time to time he'd snap off a branch from a nearby sapling
to mark which path we'd taken.
And that is when Deco told us a story about his parents,
because his parents were not Pia Barros.
Back then, the main industry in Barcelos was something else.
He told us that his parents worked in the rubber industry, latex.
Everybody worked in the rubber industry.
Before the town was known as the capital of ornamental fish,
it was known for its rubber.
Rubber trees come from the Amazon,
and Barcelos was part of the huge Amazonian rubber boom
in the early 1900s.
But by the time Deco was growing up in the 70s,
that industry had long been fading away.
What happened to their jobs?
Your parents were working with a boacha?
What happened with this?
What happened was that they started,
because they had plantation from there,
no, they didn't need to buy bacellas, so it,
So the demand for rubber stopped, so their jobs ended.
Deco told us nobody could pay their bills.
Everyone owed money.
Everyone went under.
And the reason the world stopped buying their rubber, it was competition.
Foreigners had taken this valuable tree from the Amazon
and figured out how to grow it in other places.
They set up huge rubber plantations in Southeast Asia.
Nowadays, the biggest producers of natural rubber are Thailand,
and Indonesia and Vietnam.
Planted the syringa
there, and they not
bought more of Bacelos.
Deco says, yeah, after they planted the trees over there,
the world didn't need to buy rubber from Barselos anymore.
So people started to move away.
Whole towns were disappearing.
As a kid, Deco himself wasn't sure
if he'd be able to stay in Barsellos.
Except there was this little fish,
the Cardinal Tetra.
Some explorers had come through in the 1915,
50s and noticed that it was prettier than any little tetra the world had ever seen.
And so, the gears of a new economy started turning.
The Cardinal Tetra essentially saved the town of Barcellos.
But now, competition has come for these Cardinal Tetras.
And it's almost like the exact same story all over again.
In fact, these farmed fish even come from the same countries that planted all the rubber
trees, like Indonesia and Vietnam.
There is a pattern here, right?
First, the world notices that the people of the Amazon have something unique and valuable,
like a special tree or a pretty little fish, or other stuff like that tasty treat we call cacao.
But eventually, the rest of the world figures out how to take the Amazon out of the equation.
How to take people like Deco out of the equation.
We asked Deco if he thought maybe this time could be different.
If this plan with Scott and Mara and the rest of the Piaberos could stop the ornamental fish industry from disappearing here.
He said, of course he hopes so, but then he mentioned something else.
Something that completely changed how I thought about this whole situation,
something that showed me just how quickly the economy of this town has been evolving on its own.
Deco said, yeah, my intention is to work with cardinal, but with pesca sportive,
Ne?
Deco said, yeah, my intention is to keep working with the Cardinal Tetra's, but hey, there's always
sport fishing, right?
So it's do some ornamental fishing, but also make ends meet with sports fishing.
So, that is when we learned that Deco himself is not a full-time Pia Barrow, not anymore.
These days, he also worked.
as a sports fishing guide.
And he told us, yeah, a lot of former Pia Beros
now work as fishing guides.
Yeah, they work as sports.
Yes, a lot of them have gone into sports fishing.
Because there's the guide, there's a camereer,
there's motorists,
there's much function for these pescadores.
Yeah, they work as guides,
and also some people work as chauffeurs or hotel workers or cleaners
you know, to cater to all the tourists who are coming in.
And as he said this, a lot of things we saw in town started to make a little bit more sense.
Coming here, I think I'd been so focused on this story of the Cardinal Tetra,
the story of Scott and the Pia Barros and what this all meant for the future of Barcellos.
But all along, there had been these clues that I hadn't really been paying attention to,
clues about this other future for Barcellos.
For instance, the hotel that we were staying at, the Hotel Amazonita, it was pretty new-looking.
It didn't seem like the kind of hotel you would build in a town where the economy is collapsing.
This hotel also had a pizza restaurant, which seemed a little weird.
And at lunch, it filled up with loud dudes wearing wraparound sunglasses.
Some of them were carrying long black equipment cases, which now in retrospect probably contained
fishing rods.
And you know that statue of Jesus in the town square, the one decorated with all the fish?
Well, it wasn't just the Cardinal Tetra on there, actually.
There was also this other fish.
It's green with black stripes and red fins.
And in real life, it is about 36 times bigger than the Cardinal.
This fish is called the peacock bass.
It is a trophy fish.
And these days, there are a lot of people talking about how Barcelos is the perfect place to catch one.
18 pound peacock bars are all these videos on YouTube.
Barcellos is the best place for big fish.
Look at that thing.
You just went double-ditch.
On Amazon, baby.
And look, we had known that there was sport fishing in Barcelos.
Scott had even mentioned it to us.
But up until this point, I hadn't realized how big this sport fishing industry had gotten here.
And how much it was changing the local economy, creating other kinds of opportunities.
Deco told us one of his sons now works at a hotel in town.
He told us the name.
Oh my God.
Van der Yulsen is his son.
The one who works at the Amazonita.
He's your son?
Ah, I know him.
He met him.
Turns out, Deco's son was like the first person we met in Barcellos.
He was the nice guy who checked us into our hotel.
So, when we got back to town, we asked him to talk.
My name is Van der Yils.
Cresen Sikira, yeah?
I have 29 years.
Vandar Yilson Sikeda is 29 years old.
We interviewed him on the balcony of our hotel, where he works as the manager.
He told us it's the tourists who are bringing a lot of money to Barcellos these days.
He said, look, that wing of the hotel over there, that's all new.
Down there, that is all new too.
The local state tourism agency says that somewhere around 10,000 tourists come to Barcellos every year,
most of them hoping to catch one of those peacock bass.
Some locals are even starting to brand Barcellos as the new capital of sport fishing.
And sure, Van der Yolson told us, it's cool to have a Pia Barrow as a dad.
He said he and his dad spent a lot of time out there on the water together.
But that life, he thinks of it more as part of Barcellus's history now.
So this was the missing piece of the story.
This town, which was once a rubber town, then became a cardinal tetratown,
is now well on its way to becoming a sports fishing tors.
tourism town. And this pivot toward tourism, it's not an uncommon move for a lot of places where
the main industry has faded away, like Park City, Utah went from mining to skiing, or
Provincetown, Massachusetts, which went from commercial fishing to being a seaside resort. And
in thinking about the story of Barcelos, I realized one reason why tourism is such a popular
economic strategy, because tourism is the one industry that can't be picked up in.
moved away. Like, sure, you can take the rubber trees out of the Amazon. You can even take the
Cardinal Tetra out of the Amazon. But you can't take the Amazon out of the Amazon. If people want
to enjoy a beautiful day out on the Rio Negro, they have to come here. And, you know, tourism is also
kind of a last-ditch economic strategy, right? It's what is left after everything else has been
outsourced or offshoreed or out-competed. And for,
Our Piaberra warrior, it's kind of sad.
The majority of them we talk, they say,
if the fish ornamental would have, what was before,
all those would be able to the fish ornamental.
So I'll tell you this.
So most of the people I speak to that are working in sports fishing
tell us that they would definitely come back to become ornamental fishers.
Because it's a pester, what I want to say.
You go in your canoe, you're not being shinged by tourists?
She said,
Ornamental fishing is more peaceful. It's more tranquil. You're out there and your little canoe.
You're not getting yelled at by tourists. You're working for yourself.
Mara told us she wishes that the town would put more time and money into helping the Pia Barros.
As much time and money as it does putting on the big festival every year that supposedly celebrates the
Pia Baros.
And we'll say that not all just about the festival. She said, it's not all just about the festival.
And I had been thinking about that a lot too. Like, how is it?
it that the number of Pia Barros is dwindling, but this festival just keeps getting bigger and bigger
every year. And I think the only way to make sense of it is that this festival is about more than just
the Pia Baros. It's about nostalgia and heritage and cultural memory. And also probably it is about
boosting this new tourism economy. Because these days, to survive in our cut-throat global economy,
you've got to play to your strengths, to your competitive advantages. And what the people of Barsel
have above all is a story. A story about how the town was saved by a tiny little blue and red
fish. It's a pretty good story, even if that blue and red fish might not be its savior anymore.
By the way, Mara wasn't able to get into the stadium for the festival this year. She says
there were just too many people. But there was a big screen set up in the plaza with plastic
chairs. So she just watched the show from there.
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