Planet Money - When Chicago pawned its parking meters

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

In 2008, Chicago’s budget was in a bad place. The city needed money. One way to raise money was to increase property taxes, but what politician wants to do that? So instead, Mayor Richard M. Daley�...�s administration looked around at the resources the city had, and thought, ‘Any of this worth anything?’ They opted to lease out the city’s metered parking system — to privatize all 36,000 of its parking meters. The plan: have private companies bid on operating the meters, modernizing the system, and keeping the profits for a certain number of years. In exchange, they would give Chicago a big lump sum payment. The winning bid was $1.16 billion dollars for a 75-year lease. Today’s episode is the story of how that bid got put together, and how it came to be hated. There are kidnapped parking meters, foot chases through City Hall, and trashbags filled with secret documents. Pre-order the Planet Money book and get a free gift. /  Subscribe to Planet Money+Listen free: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the NPR app or anywhere you get podcasts.Facebook / Instagram / TikTok / Our weekly Newsletter.This episode was produced by Willa Rubin with help from Luis Gallo and Sam Yellowhorse Kesler. It was edited by Jess Jiang, fact-checked by Vito Emmanuel and engineered by Cena Loffredo and Robert Rodriguez. Alex Goldmark is our executive producer.Music: NPR Source Audio - “Smoke Rings,” “Reverend,” and “Sniffin Glue.” Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Kenny Malone, and I want to take a quick minute to talk about public media. It was founded to inform, to educate, to expand our perspective. But as of this fall, federal funding for public media, including NPR and local NPR stations, has been eliminated. It was a huge blow on top of an already very busy year here at Planet Money. You know, in 2025, we've raced to publish episodes on the trade war, the Doge Chainsaw, the fight, over the Federal Reserve, and obviously we could go on and on. But we've also tried to balance that heavier stuff with stories to entertain and illuminate, even delight, we hope, from time to time.
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Starting point is 00:01:27 You can just go to plus.npr.org. And of course, thank you. This is Planet Money from NPR. Chicago journalist Mick Dumkey has an amazing memory. He's the type of person who can look at a map of a new city and then go for a run and not get lost. Or recall exactly where he was on a Tuesday, in December of 2008. He was at the gym.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I'm a regular weightlifter, Nick, even though you'd never know it from looking at me because I'm not a very big guy. But I'm pretty sure I was in the weight room at that time. On the floor, on the exercise mat. I was maybe doing sit-ups or stretching, and the TV was like above the exercise mat. The TV was playing the news.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Well, the city of Chicago has struck a deal with a private company to take over the city's parking meters. The story was about how Chicago's, Mayor, Mayor Richard M. Daly, had made a deal with some outside investors to sell off the proceeds to Chicago's parking meters for a big upfront payment of $1.16 billion. The proposed 75-year lease has to be approved by counsel. Now, this wasn't all too surprising to Mick. Mick had covered Daily a lot. And he says the Daily administration at the time had pretty much constant budget issues. But they had found this new tool. They were priestly. privatizing stuff all around the city. They were selling off future revenue in exchange for a much-needed, big, lump-sum payment now.
Starting point is 00:03:06 The first one, the groundbreaking one, happened when the city privatized the Chicago Skyway, which is, it's not even a full highway. It's like a shortcut to Indiana. It's a shortcut to Indiana. Thank you. In that one, the city gave up toll revenues for nearly a century in exchange for $1.8 billion up front. And people work cool with this. The way Mick describes it, Chicagoans barely use the road.
Starting point is 00:03:32 It's mostly out-of-towners. And the Chicagoans who do use it are people going to their summer homes in Michigan. And if you don't want to pay the tolls, you just drive on local roads. Honestly, seems ideal to be able to settle off out-of-towners slash rich guys who are going to their vacation homes. It doesn't seem like there's that much of a downside to that one.
Starting point is 00:03:54 That's exactly the way it was received. and Mayor Daly was praised for it, and he remembered that praise and then proceeded to look for other stuff to sell off. Yeah, like the parking lots downtown under the big parks that run along Lake Michigan. For those, Chicago gave him up for a century and got $560 million up front. And again, it was another thing that people didn't have to use because the people who used it were in large part tourists, suburbanites. I love that Chicagoids love screwing over the occasional tourist.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Oh, absolutely. Mayor Daly, Chicago, they're on a role with these privatization deals. Each one brought much-needed money now at the expense of not only out-of-towners, but future out-of-towners. Which brings us back to the mat, the gym mat, mix on the floor, watching this news report. And he sees that Chicago has struck another privatization deal. Except this time, it will be a city's budget gap. Except this time, it was for all 36,000 parking meters in the city, which those aren't exactly used by out-of-towners. So if city council approves this lease beginning next year when you go to feed that meter, you can definitely expect to pay more.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And the city seemed to want to get this deal approved as soon as possible. This was December 2008, the depths of the Great Recession, and the mayor was looking to raise revenue without raising taxes. The mayor clearly worried about the economic crisis. crisis, he hopes that this will help avert future problems. Now, Mick, he had developed a sort of healthy skepticism of the Daily Administration and their privatization campaign. But this deal seemed weird. They were selling off the city's parking meters for 75 years.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And maybe a fire sale? Immediately, my BS antenna went up. And I knew that we were going to have to take a closer look at this. But you knew you had a story. I knew I had a story. And that started more than 15 years of reporting on this deal for me. Sounds like a sentence, doesn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah. And it wasn't just Mick who'd been sentenced to 15 years of this parking purgatory parable. This deal that Chicago made would go down as one of the most notorious miscalculations in the history of city government. It would call into question what the government is even supposed to do. and become a textbook case on the potential pitfalls of privatization. Hello and welcome to Planet Money. I'm Nick Fountain, and I'm Alexi Horowitz-Gazi. The word privatization gets thrown around a lot these days. Recently, there have been proposals to privatize all sorts of things that once seemed core to the idea of government.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Social Security, air traffic control, the post office. But infrastructure has long been ahead of this curve. Chances are you've driven on a private toll road. in your life. If you've flown out of a privatized airport, maybe you've drunk from a privatized water system. And behind those deals, to sell off government-run services
Starting point is 00:07:00 and the future fees they collect for an upfront payment, there is a math problem. How much are the future tolls or water profits worth today? How much will they be worth in the future? And when does that trade make sense for the public? Today on the show,
Starting point is 00:07:16 the Chicago parking deal. There will be kidnapped parking meters, foot chases through City Hall and trash bags filled with secret documents. We tried to talk to the people from the Daily Administration who negotiated the deal to sell off Chicago's parking meters for 75 years. They did not want to talk. But we did get to talk to somebody on the other side,
Starting point is 00:07:48 somebody who wanted to buy them. His name, Sadek Waba. Parking meters is not the most, what's the right word? Help me out here. It's not the most exciting thing, right? You were trying to not say sexy? Sexy. Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:06 So it's not the most sexy thing, right? In 2008, Sadek led a firm called Morgan Stanley Infrastructure Partners, where he was tasked with finding new projects to invest in. And when Chicago put out a request for bids, on its parking meter system, he was curious. Like, what would this actually look like? No one had done it before in the U.S., taking over a city's parking meter system. So he flew to Chicago to take a look.
Starting point is 00:08:32 We rented the car and went around understanding what it meant to have a parking meter in a particular area. You went to the loop, you went to neighborhoods like Logan Square. Everywhere. It's this, right? You get statistics that says there are. are 200 parking meters in this neighborhood. Okay, what does that mean? If I have a parking meter where you have storage facilities, no one really parks there after 4 o'clock, or whatever, right, then the usage is going to be very low. And you yourself, the top dog, you were doing this
Starting point is 00:09:07 on the ground research? Yes. Yourself? That surprises me. No. It doesn't surprise me at all. Of course he hit the streets. These deals are made on the details. Details like what the future meter rates were going to be. The city's rates had remained very, very low for many decades, like too low, a quarter an hour in many neighborhoods, which meant people would just camp out in those parking spaces all day long. Some city councilors, or aldermen, as they're called in Chicago, wanted to raise rates. But what they didn't want was the political blowback. Sotic wasn't too worried about all that. He was focused on other things, like calculating how much the future profits from these meters were worth. Remember, this deal, it was for 75 years.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Trying to figure out, like, the next 10 years of profits is hard. What if there's another recession? Will people keep driving? Will they even need parking? Now do that every year for 75 years. The math is daunting. Especially because this touches on one of the most important concepts in finance and economics and honestly daily life, the time value of money. Are we talking about a certain rate? Are we talking about the discount rate, perhaps? The discount rate. Ah, the discount rate. Basically, the idea behind a discount rate is that money now is worth more than money later.
Starting point is 00:10:27 If someone offers you $100 today or $100 a couple years from now, you should almost always take the $100 today. Because if you take it now and stick it in a savings account, you can earn interest. Maybe it'll become $110 in a couple years. But if you wait to take it, you'll have lost out on that opportunity. And also, $100 will buy less because of inflation. Basically, money in the future is worth less than money today. And remember, SADC is trying to figure out what money in the future, the profits from the parking meter system for each of the next 75 years, what those are worth in 2008. Because he's going to pay for them up front in a lump sum.
Starting point is 00:11:04 The good news is mathematicians long ago figured out how to take future earnings and calculate their present value. They call this discounting. And the rate at which you discount the future is called the discount rate. And the discount rate you use to calculate what the future is worth today can have huge implications. Also, how far into the future you're going. The longer the time frame, the bigger the discount. $100 two years from now is very different than $100, 50 years from now. At some point, the value of what you think that $100 is that you're going to get 50 years from now
Starting point is 00:11:40 at a certain discount rate is very small. So beyond call it teeny, right? 50 years. Yeah, but that value is zero. Effectively zero. Correct. So Sadek and his team, they plug in all the future profits. They discount how much those profits are worth.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And they try and figure out the present-day value of 75 years of profits. The magic number they come up with, $1.16 billion. They submit it to the city and they wait. And wait. And then they find out they won. On a Tuesday, Mayor Daly has that press conference we heard about. earlier, announcing the deal. Well, the city of Chicago has struck a deal with a private company to take over the city's
Starting point is 00:12:18 parking meters. Now, as we mentioned, Mayor Daley's administration had already used the privatization tool a couple of times before. But this announcement happened so quickly with so few details that some members of Chicago City Council were taken by surprise. Scott Waggisbach was a young alderman at the time representing the 32nd ward. And he remembers thinking, this deal is weird. We've got to look at it.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Now. We're sitting in the ward office. And we were kind of going, you know, past five, past six o'clock. You know, we're sitting here talking it through. And I said, okay, guys, this doesn't feel right. This does not feel right. Scott especially didn't like that Mayor Daly's people were trying to strong arm the city council into moving fast. The mayor's people were saying, listen, the economy is in full on meltdown mode. Remember, this was late 2008. We need the money now. Yeah, they said, if you don't approve this, our budget is cooked. Because, surprise, that budget you already passed, it includes $150 million in revenues from this deal. If you spike this, we'll have to raise property taxes. Scott does some back-of-the-envelope calculations on the parking system's worth, and he thinks, this deal is bad. But when he shows up the next day at City Hall to press the mayor's staff on this, he cannot seem to corner them. At one point, I see the CFO and I go, have you read this thing? thing, you know, and he's kind of across the room. And I go, I need to talk to you about this.
Starting point is 00:13:48 This, this isn't enough money. We're not getting enough out of this. That guy turns when I start talking to him and literally runs out the door into the hallway, runs down the hallway. And I'm like, wow, this thing's got to be really bad if he's hoffing it down the hallway. He ducked you. I think he knew what the deal was. On Thursday, just two. days after the deal was announced, the whole city council met to deliberate. Council will come to order, please. Clerk, call the roll. I was just walking around saying, look, don't vote for this thing. You were literally walking around trying to pick people off, tell them not to vote for this? Yeah. I was getting the brush off from quite a few people because
Starting point is 00:14:35 they're like, look, Scott, come on. Yeah, the way Scott and others describe it, the mayor had a lot of influence over the city council at the time. Thank you, Mr. President. I, uh, supporting this and I, just three good reasons. One, a billion dollars. This deal needs to get done. Who's going to give us a billion dollars? Two, no tax raises. The administration says it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:14:56 You know, we need to close the budget gap. And three, we balance the budget. Thank you. Scott convinced a few people on the council the deal was bad and to vote against it. But speaker after speaker stood up and said, listen, is this the greatest deal ever? Eh, it's. A deal, and we do need the money now. I think the concession agreement was actually 520 pages. I think the initial contract was like 75.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And one of the aldermen next to me, Dick Mel. Thank you, Mr. President. He stood up and he said, How many of us read the stuff when we do get it? That was his quote. Okay. Let's face it. And so I hold it up, and I kind of yelled out.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I was like, I read it, I read it. All right, we've got it. I know some do it. Scott was flabbergasted that a colleague was saying, on mic, that they hadn't read the deal. That felt like a dereliction of their duty as elected officials, to their current constituents, and also for generations to come. But on the other hand, you can see why Chicago City Council members would be tempted by this deal, even if they didn't fully understand it. It's a dynamic you see all the time in politics. Because politicians live on the timescale of election cycles, it can be strategic.
Starting point is 00:16:13 strategic to pass some policy that seems to be addressing a short-term crisis, even if it creates bigger problems down the road. That way, they can at least tell voters that they're doing something. And so, when it came time to tally the votes for this parking deal, 40 of Scott's colleagues voted for it. And lo and behold, this thing kind of got jammed through, and the final vote was basically five people voting against it. You were one of the five who voted.
Starting point is 00:16:43 No. Correct. How do you feel about that vote today? Well, I... After the break, the answer to that. Nah, just kidding. You know the answer. I feel great about it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 After the break, why he feels great about it. How his read on the deal was eventually vindicated, and how a string of revelations enraged Chicagoans all across the city. The parking deal went through. Chicago got its $1.16 billion in exchange for 75 years of parking revenue, and they put some of it in a rainy day fund. And the folks on the other side of the deal got the parking system. They started by setting up a private company to run the system,
Starting point is 00:17:29 Chicago parking meters LLC, and they hired people to collect the quarters, to write parking tickets, to service and replace meters. In February of 2009, when the private company took over the system, things pretty quickly went awry. Meter rates went way up. In some areas, they quadrupled from a quarter an hour to a dollar, which meant meters couldn't handle all the quarters. The company also calibrated some meters wrong so people were being ripped off. Chicagoans started protesting. Forget nickel and dined. These folks are tired of being quartered.
Starting point is 00:18:03 The vast majority of the people reject the. parking meter deal and reject Morgan Stanley's ownership of the parking meter deal. Other people started disappearing parking meters, kind of cool-hand Luke style. They've been grabbing these like hotcakes. I don't know who and where. I don't see how I can get away with it, you know what I mean? There were TV debates. Like this one time, Mick the journalist got into it with one alderman about what research he did before he voted for the deal. How much research did you do into privatization of parking units?
Starting point is 00:18:33 What did you do? Sonny, your damn business. It is. You're a public official. You're representing the people of the city of Chicago. Damn right I am, and I do my job. Yes, people were mad about the meter increases in the dysfunction. But Scott Waggisbach, the alderman who'd voted against the deal, says as time wore on, another aspect of the deal started to grind people's gears. Scott says the deal had provisions in it that meant the city had to pay
Starting point is 00:18:57 any time they took a meter out of service. Like for a street fair. Before he could just shut off the street, now he had to think of the meters. The parking company would calculate the opportunity cost. It was essentially, okay, well, if you take 150, 200 meters out of operation for four days, they came back and said, here's the cost of taking those meters out. It could be in the tens of thousands of dollars. How did you feel when they came back to you with a price tag like that? What the hell? I mean, that's what people would say. Like, what are you talking about, Alderman?
Starting point is 00:19:34 And it wasn't just street fairs. Every time a dumpster needed to be in front of a meter, every time somebody proposed a bike lane or a bus stop or a loading zone in front of their business, Scott had to find a new place for the meters or the city would have to pay up. Do you feel like you've lost control of your streets? Absolutely. One year, Chicago's payments to the parking company topped $26 million. Since 2009, the city has paid more than $160 million.
Starting point is 00:20:04 And yes, the city had been paid its $1.16 billion, but it was burning through a chunk of those proceeds and sending them out of the city. Scott says all of this really reached a boiling point for him thanks to an accidental discovery he made. One day, I'm sitting in my office here, right where we're doing the interview, and somebody called up and I could hear they were angry. Why? Because of a big pile of trash
Starting point is 00:20:29 that was in an alleyway behind a city building in his district. So I jumped in my car and I go over there. So I go into the alley and there are piles and piles of paper and bags and some of it shredded and some is not. And I got kind of anger and I was like, man, who throws all this stuff out here? So I started digging through the piles and I started finding all sorts of meter deal documents. And I thought, what in the heck is this paper? And what is this? And what, wait a minute, what is this?
Starting point is 00:21:06 Scott says he'd stumbled upon the motherload of Chicago parking meter deal documents, which had been hidden from city counselors, from aldermen like him. So I started throwing some of it into my trunk. I'm standing there in the alley, and I remember calling up my brother, and I said, hey, there's a bunch of acronyms on some of these papers, and this looks pretty shady. and I said, what does ADIA stand for? And he said, oh, that's Abu Dhabi Investment Agency. And I said, the meter system has been essentially sold off.
Starting point is 00:21:47 They had flipped it over to Abu Dhabi Investment Agency without telling anyone. We reached out to the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, that's what it's called, to see if they wanted to talk about this story. They declined. So did the city's CFO under Mayor Daly, and the CEO of Chicago Parking Meter's LLC did not respond to our request. Now, Scott later found out that only about 25% of the company had been sold to the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority,
Starting point is 00:22:12 and he wasn't exactly annoyed that they specifically were getting the meter profits. It could have been anyone. He was more upset about the lack of transparency, that he, a city alderman, had no idea what was happening on his streets. But it wasn't clear exactly how bad the deal was until one person spent months actually running the numbers. His name, Aaron Feinstein. Aaron's a wonk.
Starting point is 00:22:37 He's not afraid of an Excel formula. In 2008, he started looking into the parking deal when he was working for Chicago's Inspector General. He says the investigation took over his life. One day he was checking in with his boss. And I remember saying to him just at one point, I was like, I hate parking meters. I've been thinking about parking meters for like four months
Starting point is 00:22:58 and I can't. I just don't care. I hate parking meters. Alas, the investigation continued. Aaron's job was to write up a big report, a definitive accounting of the meter deal. He started asking questions of the city and its consultants, and because he worked for the inspector general, they were required to answer him. And some of their answers were kind of shocking. We asked them point blank, hey, what was the value of the city's parking meters to the city if the city had kept the meters for themselves and raised the rates, increase the hours of operation, as outlined in the lease.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Their response was, we did not do that. We did not consider what the value of the meters would be to the city if we had kept them under city management and raised the rates ourselves. That is the question, no? To me, that's the question. I couldn't believe that they put in writing that they did not do that. I just, yeah, I think I probably very quickly was like, well, that's it. We should, that's it. The report's done. They didn't consider it.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Ha, ha, we got them. Let's go. Yeah, right then, Aaron realized the only thing the city calculated was what they could expect to get from the private sector. Not what the parking meter profits were worth to citizens, to the city if they kept them. And for Aaron, one of the biggest problems was the discount rate the city used for the deal. He says it was just too high. Basically, the city undervalued the future profits. Aaron wanted to correct this. He did a bunch of research, called up experts across the world to see what discount rate he should use to figure out what the present value of the parking meter system was
Starting point is 00:24:33 to Chicago, to its residents. And then he ran his own models, using a conservative estimate of profits and a less aggressive discount rate. We concluded that works out to a value of the city's parking meters in 2008 of 2.1 billion or so. So about a billion dollars more than the city ended up selling it for. that's a huge difference. Yeah, that's like double, just about, just about. Aaron also looked at the length of the deal.
Starting point is 00:25:03 He found that Chicago got 93% of the value of the deal out of the first half of the lease, the first 37 years, which means Chicago got pretty much nothing for the last half, the last 38 years. And why would you do that? And I don't know why. We pressed that point, and they never responded to the length of the lease, which is, I think, the most egregious part of the, of the transaction is the length of the lease, that you've sort of made this decision for three generations of folks who live in the city of Chicago,
Starting point is 00:25:38 and there's very little they can do to undo this decision. Does it make you angry? Yes, I guess. angry that it was just sort of this short-term band-aid solution to get through, you know, a single year or two's budget problems, and now the city has lost this asset that it used to have. That turns out to be pretty valuable. It's still unclear whether this deal was so long and so bad because of negligence or myopia or just ineptitude. And in fairness to the city, they said that. that Aaron's estimates were unrealistic because they didn't have the political will to raise meter rates
Starting point is 00:26:25 themselves. What is clear is that this deal has been super lucrative for the buyer's side. According to an audit published last year, the company that paid for the meter system has earned back their billion-dollar-plus investment and earned another $800 million on top of that. And there's still almost 60 years left on the contract. Yeah, Scott Wagaspak, the alderman who voted against the deal, he still has a lot of feelings about how. this all went down. It is the worst deal, I think, in municipal history in the United States. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Oh, yeah, it's absolutely the worst deal in the history of municipalities. If you're running a post-mortem on what makes this the worst deal of all time, it kind of boils down to three things. One, Chicago discounted the future too much. Two, they made the term of the lease too long. And three, they made the decision too quickly during a moment of crisis. All of this feels like kind of a case study about why privatization is such a controversial topic. The case for privatization, of course, is that there are times when the private sector can do things more efficiently or cheaply than the government.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Or, as in this case, that it offers the government access to much-needed revenue when they need it, instead of having to collect it quarter by quarter over decades. But if you don't actually do the math, actually tally up how much those meters would have paid out if the government kept them, or figure out how much it's worth to keep control over adding new bike lanes or closing off city blocks for a parade, you may just end up selling the farm for a pittance. There is one more reason that I think this deal has continued to piss everyone off. It's kind of a cynical take. I ran it by Scott the Alderman.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I have this theory that the reason people really hate this deal is not necessarily because of the economics. It's because they have to feed the meters all the time and they interface with it all the time. right like selling off the proceeds to toll road used by out of towners or parking lots used by tourists is not as viscerally annoying than the parking meters do you think i agree my theory holds and yeah yeah i agree with you know when you're going across a um a bridge or something and you know you kind of put the money in for the uh easy pass that's you know kind of quick but when you're having to drive around the city and anywhere you pull up and you're putting money into that box and you're thinking, okay, hardly a dime of this is going to
Starting point is 00:28:53 the city. That's money right out of your pocket for the next, you know, what is it, 60-plus years. Several generations. Yeah. Kids and grandkids will be paying for this thing for decades to come. Everyone who's ever visited a big city knows that finding a parking spot remains one of the great pains of modern urban life. But because of this deal, Chicagoans have also felt this additional sting. Now, every time they pop in a quarter or many quarters to feed the meter, instead of funding their own city, they are essentially renting back the space that used to belong to all of them, hour by hour at cutthroat rates, until the meter contractually runs out on February 29th of 2084. Yeah, you heard that right. The contract, this whole situation,
Starting point is 00:29:44 ends on a leap day. Hey, just a little reminder on how you can keep our meters running. Planet Money Plus supporters get every episode without any sponsor messages, they get bonus episodes, and most importantly, they support this journalism that you're hearing right now. Directly, which means we can rely less on sponsors or anyone. You can sign up at plus.npr.org slash planet money. This episode was produced by Willa Rubin, with help from Luis Gayo and Samuel O'Horse Kessler. It was edited by Jess Jang, fact-checked by Vito Emanuel, and engineered by Sina LaFredo.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Alex Goldmark is our executive producer. Special thanks to Ben Jarfsky, Tony Arnold, David Hoffman, and Matt Messbarger from Chicago's clerk's office, who found that amazing recording of the city council meeting. Also, big, big thanks to Henry Grabar. I first heard about the story from his terrific book, All About Parking. It's called Paved Paradise. I really loved it. I'm Nick Fountain. I'm Alexei Horowitz-Gazi.
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