Please Stop Talking - The THOD (feat. MandaloreGaming) | Please Stop Talking

Episode Date: November 28, 2017

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your host avery but you might know me better as Shammy. I am joined in this episode today, as always, by my friends, David. I'm your friend. Cameron. I'm not your friend. Oh, okay. Well, my friend, David, my nemesis, Cameron, and special guest, resident R guy, Mandalore Gaming, aka Mandy. Hey, everybody. Hi. resident our guy mandalore gaming aka mandy hey everybody uh this episode of the podcast this episode of the podcast is about uh work stories and i don't actually have any interesting

ones so it's mostly going to be david and mandy because also cameron's an infant well cameron did have cameron doesn't have a story. Cameron has a sentence. No, it's not a story, buddy. It's a sentence. It's not a story. Yeah, just throw your sentence. I have sentences. I can hit you with some sentences. Yo, you want me to hit you with a sentence?

Hit me with a good sentence. A fucking hard, cold one. Come on. So, in New Zealand, we happen to have... No, you're adding so much context. That's not a sentence. If that's so much context! That is not a sentence. You gotta stop that. That's not a sentence!

If that's a sentence, it's a run-on sentence, Cameron. It can happen. Uh... That is not okay. What do you mean? I was gonna hit you just like a small story. If I'm gonna contribute, I'm gonna contribute at least more than a sentence. Oh my god!

Why would you- Why would you say you were gonna hit us with a sentence if you're about to hit us with a story? Wha- I don't- I don't know, you've got me there, honestly. You're right, I do. This is what enemies do to each other, Cameron.

They get each other. Oh, fuck. Alright, well, in New Zealand, we have child labor laws that allow children over the age of no wait sorry anyone under the age of 18 to be able to work uh but there's no way there's no is there no minimum age um i'm actually checking it right now i'm i do you have like eight-year-olds making like pop out the womb into the mines is that how it works uh there i know there are actually no like limits is there actually not a minimum i can't see what but anyway so basically it means that you can pay a child under the age of uh 16 which is when they have to start paying your minimum wage

under the amount of minimum wage and i think the why do adults have jobs in new zealand then i because children can't do work i don't know uh being stuck in the machinery so basically it's a failure of democracy go ahead sorry this is why we're the most free country in the world are you yeah um wait hang on how do you measure that what is the metric for that i don't know shut up then you can't freest country in the world hong kong fuck you the in 2012 the most free countries were new zealand the netherlands and hong kong that was five years ago that was five years ago i'm looking at 2017 you were third 2012 was last year is okay? Are you about to say 2012 was last year?

Is that what you were about to say? No. I watched... No. Alright, we're number three. That's all good. Ooh, I'm number six! Alright, can I continue? Yeah, sure. Yeah, go ahead.

So the minimum wage, I think when I... Because I worked at Domino's when i was 11 so i think that was the sentence that was the sentence i don't know why we're hearing all i don't know why we're hearing all of this i honestly don't okay do you want me just do you wait wait wait wait what did you do at domino's were you like a cook did you make that pizza what did you do child laborino's? Were you like a cook? Did you make that pizza? What did you do? Child laborer in the cheese mines. I, I, I, it was part of our school thing, like to, to my work experience, I guess.

But like we are getting paid. When you were 11? I think we're getting paid 11. Wait, they were giving, they were paying you in work experience? Is that what you just said? No, they were paying. No, I think it was part of like a work experience thing like to you were 11 it was exposure dude no wonder you were selling toys on the side of the street when you were like seven new zealand's fucked no fuck off

uh anyway so they were paying me i think 11 and the minimum wage was like 16 or 15 dollars which isn't that bad considering there is actually no minimum wage that could have been paying me like two dollars uh but uh i went with a few friends and to do it and one of my friends got to make pizza and then i ended up being the person washing the dishes and doing the signpost for a while wow until they realized that apparently i was better at doing math than the people who were already working there so they put me on the front counter as a leaven and i could barely like look over the counter so people would be ordering pizzas to literally like a top of the head what are you what what the fuck you were taking orders what the fuck

why did you say you didn't have a story you were taking orders you were taking orders at 11 that's a story if I went to fucking dominoes I saw a fucking 11 year old taking orders I would be like where's the cameras

what the fuck I would think I would think it was a money laundering scheme I wouldn't trust it Where's the cameras? Like, what the fuck? I actually had one of the most... I would think it was a money laundering scheme. I wouldn't trust it. I'd leave. Yeah, if I saw a little kid pop out of a hatch, like, can I take your order?

A hatch? What? Yeah, a compact little child hatch, you know? What? It's like this big wall with, like, a Domino's logo on it. There's, like, a little hatch. And then a little kid pops out. No prevents crime.

You just have a little pizza goblin come out and take the orders. Pizza goblin. I actually had like a big anxiety attack when I was there because they made me one of the, I think my supervisor was trying to teach me how to take phone orders, but the phones that they use were really shitty and I was getting really flustered on the phone and I could not understand what the person was trying to teach me how to take phone orders but the phones that they used were really shitty and i was getting really flustered on the phone and i could not understand what the person was trying to order so i actually ended just hanging up the phone and like going back and just standing there i was so fucking bad it'll leave it i don't know why they try to make me do all this stuff it was so difficult for me what the fuck it was great it

was a good time was it you said you were traumatized you had an anxiety attack cameron you can't make up your mind about anything yeah right it's like i don't have a story like i have a sentence actually i do have a story i worked at domino's when i was 11 and i took orders i got traumatized it was a good time I wasn't traumatized I wasn't there for very long I think I was there for like a month or so but uh

it was definitely an experience you were fine you probably forgot about it thanks for telling me if I was traumatized or not Avery anytime dude a lot of tension sorry but yeah there you go there's my story

wait wait wait were the customers like not questioning this at all they were just like no not at all they probably just bought a car from an 8 year old New Zealand is fucking no man's land it was actually pretty bad like some of the people just oh my god for a second

I thought you're about to tell me I actually bought a car from an eight-year-old No, like those the people they come into Domino's are sometimes fucking assholes man Like they'll order something and then you'll be like, okay, so you wanted this this and then and they'll give you like nope I'm like what do you want i think that's every fucking fast food that's pretty much working in food and food service or working in retail yeah that's what i was gonna say working anywhere where you have to deal with people i don't really have anything interesting i uh i worked for a few food courier services like Favor, DoorDash, and Uber Eats, and I was an Uber driver for a while, and I also worked a desk job for a while,

and none of it was interesting. The desk job was boring. The other jobs would maybe hate people. Nice. Pretty much it. I worked at my dad's garage when I was 14, so this story is illegal, boys. Okay. Great.

Is this about to become a lost file? Is that what's about to happen? No, because... Oh, wait. Oh, no. I completely brain farted. No, I'm fine. Okay, for a second I thought you were like no no i can't

tell this no no i i have a couple stories about that place because basically what i did there was um gen i was a janitor and like because this thing is it's like my dad was like you you should work it's fun and it was not he lied thanks dad uh and he made me do stuff like the inventory so like we would get uh discs like fucking break discs what is is that what they're called in fucking english brake pads brake pads are they brake they're fucking heavy as shit dog yo they're so fucking heavy like i was 14 i could barely lift that shit i'm fucking 21 i could barely lift that shit i got spaghetti spaghetti arms though so like but uh yeah there was this one time where uh i was doing the

inventory so i was putting like i was looking at a list and i saw for let's say like uh a bunch of oil and i was like okay we got oil today so like let's put it in the system and this woman just because it's like she comes into the reception like she's kind of freaking out and she goes to see the guy next to me who like works the reception and he's like what can i do for you and she's like come outside right now and like everybody in the garage was like doing nothing and just hanging around and drinking coffee and there was like everybody just goes out to look at her car and her car like smelled fucking like rotten eggs it smelled so bad and she just she just tells us this story about how she got it from her her heck her ex-husband

and he was an asshole to her and her ex-husband yeah okay yeah, guys, everybody, I have an accent. That's not an accent. You just said the wrong thing. Maybe it's because of my accent. Fuck. Okay, I'm sorry. Jesus. It's because of my accent. Okay, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, David. I didn't mean to interrupt your story. Thank you. God. Where was I? I don't remember. I stopped listening when you were talking about

your spaghetti hands i legit don't remember where i was at uh oh no you she had a car it smelled like oh yeah she was talking about her fucking husband or whatever we honestly i didn't catch most of what she was saying and at one point my dad's talking to her and i just look at the hood of the car and it starts like i don't know how to explain this it's like i can see the paint what no the car did not start talking to me the no the paint starts to melt and it i don't know how to explain it you just did uh no well it just melted well the the paint melts so like it starts like opening up all over the hood and i'm just like wait what starts opening up all over the hood what like because it spreads all around like the the paint because like there's oil or something on the paint i think and like okay

one part yeah it just spreads all over the hood and i'm like dad something's gonna happen and like i i get his attention the moment my dad looks at the fucking hood of the car the car just starts burning like big fucking flames like the car just combusts and i i'm yeah yeah and like the lady's like oh my god she's fucking freaking the fuck out and i'm like oh man turn that down on post that was so loud jesus christ that was pretty loud david yeah i mean i mean that's what happened she was like ah i mean that's what happened and i i i don't know what to do. I just run inside. I tell every other customer, like, y'all best run.

And they just all fucking dip. Y'all best run. What is y'all best run in French? Bonjour, mesdames et messieurs. Vous devriez probablement sortir des locaux. He's lying. He's lying. He's absolutely lying.adians are not that polite okay ouch first off second off everybody dips and now i'm just there i have the uh

oh fuck what is it called fuck what is that called it's like the foam the foam for fire fire foam you know the fire extinguisher you have a fire extinguisher the foam the fire foam yeah fire that's what it is bubble bath i mean that's what it is it's fucking fire foam let's be real uh i mean it depends on what type of extinguisher you have, but sure. Is there like water, liquid fire? There's like liquid fire? Look, I'm just trying to, I'm trying to make a joke here. Just leave me.

What joke? What joke? I don't know. My life is a joke. Let's move on. Evidently. But no, there are different types of fire extinguishers one of them is just like air like it's co2 or something i don't know no i didn't even know that

it's it's it's like a fucking gas it's like a gas of some kind it's not just air whatever obviously whatever it's not just fucking compressed oxygen it's whatever mine i'm pretty sure we had it starts the um fire of oxygen the one we had was foam and i just like i give it to somebody else i'm like you fucking deal with that shit and i i i i was like i don't i'm not dying for this i got i hate this job i'm not dying and i just go in the garage which thinking back not smart if it exploded a lot of things would have exploded in there and uh I just look from afar and eventually

eventually the fire men they came and you know extinguished the fire good ending that really petered out what the fuck did you not all stories end up with me closing down i yeah i was waiting for i was waiting to find out about where what your dad's doing now that the garage is gone oh the garage is still there okay there's that okay well i don't

okay well you kind of like what do you want from me? So there are some some laws around child labor So like a low under 15 year old under 15 years old cannot work on a logging site construction site in area where hazardous substances are manufactured get out of the Chains mines they also can't work during school hours. So, you know. That's too bad. That's too bad. Can't get child pizza. Mandel or true capitalist. Child pizza.

Child pizza. Yeah, pizza made by children. Does it taste better that way? I don't know. They have delicate hands. It tastes cheaper that way. That's all I know. Someone isolate that? Delicate hands. Yeah, they got delicate hands.

They can put the pepperoni real good. I'm clapping so you know what this is. Alright, Mandy. Alright, Mandy. Do you have any good stories? I have one thing that i in particular that i want to ask mandy about specifically that i don't think anyone else here knows about um let's see while you think i can go over another one of mine sure from the garage so there was this the garage was like oh i better be careful because there are not a lot

of hospitals around it was what what i'm not gonna fucking dox the garage dude uh what wait he was gonna name the hospital and if it's the only hospital in the area he doesn't want to live. I don't want to talk about it. So it was there was a hospital and they have a what's a polite way to say loony bin? That's a polite way to say what?

An asylum. I mean it's kind of a psychiatric ward. Containment area? Yeah I guess. A containment area? Prison for the un containment area i don't think that's the unwell i don't know whatever they had a bunch of crazy people yeah where the freaks go like me so we were right in front of a hospital and there was a bunch of fucking crazy people and they would just come in and do wacky stuff. And this one time there's this old senile man.

He probably wasn't. Is this going to get sad? It sounds like it's about to get sad. For me. Okay. No, it's not. No, it's not. Don't worry.

He didn't die yet. What the fuck is wrong with you? He just came up to me while I was at the front desk and he's like, excuse me, where's the bathroom? And I'm like, it's right over there. It's right over there. You don't need a key. Just like do your thing.

And there was a bunch of people in the reception just waiting. And I was working on i don't remember probably inventory inventory again and the doors shut and i i just started hearing the loudest most painful shit like that guy was i thought for real that he would die. Like, it was just fart noises and yelling. It was, like, disgusting. That's the name of my autobiography. Everybody. What?

Fart noises and yelling. My biography? My autobiography. Never mind. Go ahead. What? Whatever. Talk more about senile man's painful shit.

Yeah. And the people in the reception just like all look at the same time, the door. And they look back at me and I'm like, fuck, what do you want from me? I'm not fucking knocking. Eventually, it just stops. And we wait like there's like five minutes where we don't hear anything and he just comes out eventually and he takes his leave and everybody's very very relieved that he's not dead and he closes the door when he leaves like the door to the restroom he's shitting in the sink wait it starts smelling very very bad david please tell me he didn't did he shit in the sink

he said he didn't die he promised me that he didn't die but something crawled up in his ass and died there uh that's not just what that's not what that expression go ahead whatever no whatever i don't care my grandfather told me that once and I was like hot that's funny. That means you're angry What no way rolled up your ass and died that means you're angry It doesn't mean your shit stinks I mean one goes in i mean it can't be used in both ways no it can't it's never used in the way you just used it i'll fuck i'm starting it fuck you okay fine jesus i mean wouldn't it wouldn't it be better to say what crawled out of your ass and died wouldn't that be better that would make

more sense for really stinky shit whatever dude i just okay i get up from my chair and like i'm not the there was also the guy at the front desk and he he looks at me he's like i'm not going i'm like okay i guess i'm going i go there i open the door and it's like it's really dark i don't there was like no light i just opened turn on the lights brown everywhere oh i've never seen so much shit in my fucking life there was ground there was shit on the floor on the walls and even on the fucking ceiling my guy it was the worst fucking work day of my life i remember just i i turn around my dad's behind me and he's he's petrified dude he just cannot believe you still work there did i still yeah wow i mean i mean i'm sorry i'm trying to figure out what i can get away with I cannot believe... Did you still work there after that? Did I still? Yeah. Wow.

I mean... I mean... Sorry, I'm trying to figure out what I can get away with. I was like, what? What does that mean? What the fuck does that mean? Yeah. Okay. And yeah, he's just like, I don't have the time to clean this.

You're going to have to do it, son. And I'm like dad no and he he went and we made a makeshift hazmat suit with fucking trash bags and uh those fucking like not gas mask uh just like like a clinical mask thing yeah like we had a lot of clinical masks when we did like oil changes or whatever and like I just wore all of that I made a makeshift

thing and I got a mop I mopped the ceiling I mopped the shit off the ceiling took all day not fun wow that sounds like a shitty time oh my god got him david every time you tell the story i feel like i understand you more as a person what do you mean what the fuck does that make you understand what why are you agreeing what

david i'm just saying i think i'm i think you i think you having to clean shit off a ceiling really informed your personality what the fuck does that mean yeah exactly what did david i'm just like i don't think that happened to you i understand wait what never mind not like that never mind what did you do to that horse? I didn't do anything to the horse. It's what the horse did to me. I just realized we haven't explained

that you worked with horses. It's probably an important footnote to put in there. Mandy, you got a few stories. I worked at a hardware store i've worked i did like presidential canvassing during a campaign i i guess i work in an office now but that's not as important and then there was a period and there was a period where i was working as a horse trainer in high school and a little bit after.

And you think you know bad smells, but you really don't until you've been around animals. I think David knows. I think I know. I don't know because I'm trying to think of how to word this. It's not even like a story. It's just like a thing that happened. I have other gross horse stories stories but this was just i was septic pink broke that smelled pretty bad oh god yeah sorry go ahead oh no um so i was out and i

was bringing out you know like feed to them going to the stalls filled up with food they started eating it and they had a horse named newt and i think he was a i think it was a paint he was he was getting pretty old and we had a barn dog. We had like a collie. I don't remember the dog's name. Whether or not the dog survived this is kind of the question. Because I went to feed Newt. And, you know, the horse farted.

And, you know, usually that's whatever. Horses, you don't see them ever not doing that. But then my nose started to burn it felt like my nostrils were like rubbed with chili peppers and i knew something was very very wrong and then the thing is the smell hadn't hit yet it was just this burning. And then the smell hit. Oh, man. I was kind of convinced it was some sort of attack at first. I was about to say, that's exactly what I would think.

It didn't feel right, so I ran out of there. And then the dog is falling after me. And then the dog throws up. This is an animal that eats garbage. Oh, no. That's so... And so the dog's sick. Poor dog. All the other horses seem upset now.

They're kind of like, we're really getting this all set up. Seriously, Newt? And I thought something was wrong. I think something was wrong. I think something was wrong. Like, I thought it was like a chemical spill or something. Cause it's like, I was like, there's no way. And then a week later the horse died.

So it's like, who knows what happened that day? I mean, he was, he was getting old, but it's like, oh my God. Like that really changed me as a person. Yeah. That's what I was saying. That was your shit on the ceiling was the toxic horse fart. Oh my God. We have so much in common.

Which establishments have you closed? Have I closed like shut down? Oh man. Have you not listened to the podcast? I heard his one about the, um, about the, the Taoo taxi so you know that man probably lost his job that man probably didn't have the job to begin with to be fair yeah that

could have just been some guy just a karate instructor yeah it could have been their guy oh my god shut up at the end of the story just a hort had a rancid fart that's why i said that one's not much of a story it's just oh i walked in something smelled awful the dog started dying i ran out and then the horse died yeah that wasn't a i did warn you that one was not much of a story all right do you have another one i i have lots of horse stories there was a oh man i'm gonna tell you honestly mandy uh just generally speaking as a rule i do not trust people who like horses same oh i i don't blame you i don't blame you why is that why is that i live in texas i've had a lot of experience with horse people I don't trust them horse

holes yeah it's it's true yeah I got it I don't know what it is that attracts just weirdos the horses but I don't know wait so like are you a horse dude he's a horse he's a horse boy he's a horse boy boy boy a horse boy no I mean there's like everyone remembers horse girls in like high school they're always drawing horses I actually don't know are horse girls like David Cameron do you guys like understand

the horse girl thing I absolutely understand is that like a universal thing Cameron I know... I guess my cousin. Yeah, I get it. Like they're always trying...

David, why did you... David, why are you typing jokes in chat? I'm sorry. Scrub that from the record. Because I already made like 50 jokes about that. Yeah, you did. Why make another one in chat that people can't hear? Fine, our horse.

Why make it at all? You missed the point of my question. Anyways, horses. Girls. How do you think being a horse guy has impacted your videos, Mandy? How has... I'm not sure how it's directly impacted the videos. That's such an odd question.

I'm sure Avery can think of a few ways. What? What? What does that mean? What do you fucking mean? What? What are you implying? What? What are you implying? I'm just sitting you up to fail, Avery.

Don't worry about it. What is that? You're taking down Mandy in the process. Is that what you want? Oh, no. Oh, man. Look what you did. I don't think I've ever referenced a horse in any of the videos.

I expect that in the future though. Same. It better happen or else. Mandy, I need you to make an entire review where you explain a video game story with analogies to horses. Specific breeds.

There's too many breeds of horses and there's like people are making up breeds. So it would be easy. You can just make them up. You can just make them up. This is a quarter Bojangles horse. It's just a dog. It reminds me of the

character in Dead Space. Isaac Clark. What? What are you talking about? You guys are just saying words now. Nothing. Okay. Are you talking about the hit novel Dead Space available now?

Can we move on to the next? Do they fuck the zombie aliens? Oh my God. No. I don't know what the fuck this is about. I'm kind of curious. Do they fuck they fuck each next episode of the podcast we're all gonna read dead space and it'll be a book club discussion how about that oh

my god that would be so terrible no okay fucking mandy tell another horse story there's so many questions about the horse girls though I didn't even have that many I was just like is horse girls a universal thing Cameron David Cameron didn't tell us he just said

my cousin I mean yeah I guess I mean that's the only horse girl I know so is she crazy you know it's a very specific and she fits the mold she fits the mold unstable She fits the mold? Unstable? Wait, what?

What is it? She's saying unstable. Yeah, unstable. Fuck off. What is it about horse girls? A joke from my Surge review. Oh, that's right. Yeah.

Go ahead, fucking do your horse story, you fuck. Oh, right, okay. Be polite. Let me pick a horse story you fuck oh right okay um let me pick a horse story oh i could pick um loco that's a good story i like that it sounded like you were just reading off a list like which one i was kind of going there's a lot of horse stories i got you go ahead okay so when i started I was maybe 13 or 14 because we have like a local barn slash horse center, you know, for, you know, kids get writing lessons and they have shows from time to time, all that garbage. And so I wanted to learn how to ride horses because my great grandpa, he had like a farm

out West and I knew a little bit there, but I was like, I might as well see if I can still do it here. And they said, okay, you're going okay you're gonna um you're gonna ride that horse over there and you look like a big white kind of like a draft horse of white no one knows horses it's like a big kind of working horse they have really big necks they're really meant to be pulling things and not like for writing i know what a draft draft is well i don't thank you explanation friend see avery sometimes being polite maybe maybe live somewhere with david are you seriously giving avery shit about being polite like in what world on the podcast! I got one joke! One fucking joke and now I'm the rude boy boy come on get it up. Oh my god. God damn it. Oh my god, David, it's not one- hang on, no, we're no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 0 to 60. Yikes. You just fucking...

Anyway, so... What the fuck was that? Was that a slide whistle? Did you just whip out your broken slide whistle? You just tried to bring the mood back up by doing a slide whistle. Yeah, I did. Why did you have that ready? It sucks that it's broken, though, so it sounds sad. Sorry, guys, by the way.

So the mood is still sad. Anyways, horses. So there was this absolute polar bear of a horse. Right. They said, oh, you're gonna ride that one. I'm like, okay. And they saddled him up and all that. And they put me on him, and I'm like, you know what's his name oh his name's loco oh i'm like

i know it so i look in the instruct like a loco it's like yeah well he came with the name when we bought him we didn't name him loco so why is he called loco oh they wouldn't tell us they didn't speak much english it's like oh Wait, what does loco mean in Spanish? Loco means crazy. Thank you, Mandy. Yeah, so I got to experience what loco meant, and I got to be the discoverer of that. Because I went on a trail ride with the instructor and a few other kids. I think there was one other guy there.

Most of them were preteen girls. So we were having a good old time. And Loco was fine. Other horses were doing horse things like being afraid of branches and jumping at shadows and just being horses. And then Loco saw a butterfly.

It was a monarch butterfly. It flew across my vision and I thought, oh cool, it was a monarch butterfly because i remember it flew it flew across my vision and i thought like oh cool you know it's a fucking butterfly and then it flew around me and it went by his face and loco was convinced he was going to die and so this horse took off as quickly as he could into the forest with me on him i don't mean like he started like moving around i mean he just bolted just and i'm on him and every branch in the country is hitting me in the face when we're going through this forest is that where you wear the helmet and i'm like you know i'm just like stop stop stop yeah that's why you wear the helmet but you know what's coming at

your face you it doesn't help but yeah i you. I was actually making a joke about your avatar. It's not funny. Go ahead. Oh, my God. I mean, that would have been helpful at the time, but... Yeah, I'm sorry. Go ahead. We can't dream about it.

That's the opposite of the title. Anyways, so I'm going on this horse. I'm like, you know, I i'm a kid so i don't know what to do i'm just going stop stop stop and that's panicking loco more and he eventually does stop not because i told him i think he just got tired and so when he stopped he decided that the butterfly was going to catch him and this was the end and so he decided as a horse to just lay down and accept that yeah he decided he didn't fall over he just stopped he kind of said like okay i'm gonna die because the butterfly is gonna catch me so he kneeled down he just kind of laid down and accepted

death but i'm on it and this could have been really really bad but there was something about the um like the land we were on so that it was at this weird angle where like my leg was under him but i wasn't actually being crushed by him okay because it could have been very bad but he's like okay fuck this and he lays down and i'm like oh cool i could kind of crawl away from him and so i'm trying to like unhook one of my feet from the stirrups on the left side the one that's like still up and i do that but i guess the feeling of my leg going across like his his one of his flanks i'm trying to like slide off him he's convinced that's the butterfly being a feast on him and so he doesn't start kicking. He just

screams as loud as possible. I'm convinced it's a nightmare. Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah, like a horse scream. It's kind of like a whinny except you know, it's kind of

just a scream. Yeah, this is just going right. Ah, yes. Now I see. you know it's kind of just a scream yeah this is just i'm going right yeah now i see thank you for the demonstration yeah so it's little 13 year old me slowly like trembling from going at 90 miles per hour on this gigantic horse 90 miles per hour wow it felt like that when you're that small yeah for sure speed scales i get it yes yes i'm like okay i'll just i'll just gently get off the horse and now it's just screaming and i don't know what's happening no wonder old fucking horse girls are crazy you have to be to deal with this kind of shit. That's actually it.

So I get off of it and I'm like, just kind of laying down next to it. Horse girls are loco. And then he stops screaming and then he farts and they just stands up and he's fucking fine. Wow. I guess that butterfly didn't want to kill me. Oh, God.

Yeah. And then I heard a little like, and then he stands up and he looks at me like I'm fucking crazy. So when are we going to go? When are we going back to the bun? Why did you take me out here, idiot? Yeah. Like, he's like full on staring staring at me like oh this is your fault like i'm lost in the woods now you have to bring me home you drove me into the butterfly

yeah that's exactly what he takes off he runs off into the woods but you know it's my fault that i got the horse lost because i guess i brought the butterfly to make him sad in fairness you did bring the butterfly to make him sad i In fairness, you did bring the butterfly to make him sad. I did. I don't think the horse was thinking at all. Horses just don't think. I take that back. They have a really weird way of thinking.

Yeah, like this butterfly is going to feast on me. Better scream. A friend of mine had this thing he was always asking me and I never did it this was like a few years ago he was like oh i heard a rumor that if you throw a blanket over a horse's head it will just accept that it's dead and it lays down and dies i don't think that's true it's uh the specific uh myth i don't know if it's true is that if a horse lies down and you put a blanket over its head it thinks it's dead and will just die because it

will starve to death or die of thirst yeah when i heard things like that i started just i guess this was later when i was actually instructing the writing but i just started lying to um i shouldn't say that well no i was i was just lying to people about how horses worked because i'm not really tired of the questions that one's gonna got a faulty axle. Be careful. No, it was worse than that. Wait, what? Kids would ask me questions about, like, oh, do horses sleep standing up and stuff?

And someone brought up the blanket thing. Like, oh, if a horse can't see, does it just lay down and die? I was like, oh, yeah, actually, horses are kind of like sharks. If they stop moving, they'll just fucking die. Oh my God. It's like, oh, that's why they're always running. When you, when you brought up the person asking, do horses sleep standing up?

I immediately thought, I immediately thought I would tell them they sleep on the ceiling like bats. Did you not show them the stables? Could they not just instantly be like, wait, are all these horses just standing still? I said they're always tapping their feet. Because whenever you're in a stall,

you can always hear them kind of shifting around so you hear that tapping? That's them tapping their feet so they don't die. Like, oh, they're dancing. Don't sleep. They just dance. They're like sharks. They try not to die.

They shut off parts of their brain at a time. If a horse stops walking, that's another thing. The laying down thing. Is that horse sick? He's laying down. That horse looks like it's dying. It like uh no actually he's just sort of um absorbing the sunlight like what do you mean like oh if they want to grow their winter coat they have to lay it out in the sun for a while oh my god those people and you were those people might still be repeating that information to people to this day you're an instructor you're instructing these people how to what one of those came back on me because there was one thing i would tell people about like what happens if the horses can't graze

and i said they would catch and eat small animals well that turned out to be half true i'm about to say that's true mandy horses absolutely do yeah yeah they do absolutely do that what do they eat small animals in case there's what i went to another farm where they had a um they had like a divide between like where they had the chicken coops and the chicks they had to divide between that and the horse pasture, or else the horses would snack on them like popcorn. Yeah. Horses are vicious. That's fucking great. Why is that great, Cameron?

That's funny. Are you kidding me? It's energy, but the problem is when we had one horse that was just killing for sport, and that was sort of a warning sign. Jesus Christ. Was that logo? Was that horse's name that actually wasn't loco i think i think his name was cookie yeah well he was he was a big black horse and he had a few white spots why does he got to be a black

horse i don't know well he came with the spots he was cookie but i think his state his show name was probably like dances in in the Moonlight Forever or whatever the fuck they give show names. I would have really liked if Loco would be like killing small animals, but he's afraid of fucking butterflies. Oh no. It's like he's fucking kryptonite.

I'm kind of convinced Cookie was baiting birds into his stall like an orca whale. It's kind of insane. Oh my god. Jesus Christ. Because we would it looked like an owl had killed a's kind of oh my god jesus christ because we would it was kind of it looked like an owl had killed like a mouse or something by his area because we just found like a pile of like bones and feathers it was all mangled up and we didn't understand what was happening until one day i heard the really loud winnie and then like a crunch wood vibrating sound and i saw that he was stomping on birds that were coming into his stall.

Jesus Christ. Holy. That's not even a hunt. Wow. That's just murder. The thing is, can horses be sociopaths? No,

the horse was completely fine everywhere else. no, he wasn't. The kids loved him. He was cookie. Everyone loves it. It's like, oh,

that's cookie. Cause it, can I pet cookie? I'm like, sure. Just, just don't go in a stall right now. Just, you can pet him from out here. As he's, oh that's cookie because can i pet cookie i'm like sure just just don't go in his stall right now just you can pet him from out here as he's killing don't go in the morgue there were kids little eight-year-old girls having magical horse moments petting his nose

when he was standing on untold thousands of dead birds just like a sea of them behind the stall. Oh my god. Horse girls scare me more than they ever have. They didn't know. I know, but a horse girl would have to know about that and be okay with it. Eventually, they will have to know about that. I have to tell you the truth about Cookie. It's time to open the stall door.

We need to talk about Cookie. Just this mass grave of pigeons and crows. Have you guys ever seen We need to talk about kevin that's that's the moment where that's the moment where the girl decides if she's gonna be a horse girl or not she sees the thousands of trial by fire birds horse leads her into this table it's just full of corpses horse gives her a meaningful look and she nods could you imagine if horses were actually carnivorous animals

yes because they eat small animals no like if they had like sharp teeth and like if they had sharp teeth they would be extinct we would have killed them all or the other way around civilization would not exist it would just be horse girls and horses

all that remains sounds like an apocalypse apocalypse novel that Mandy would recommend on Audible it's like the happening but instead of plants turning evil it's all the horses grow sharp teeth and all the consequences of that

I would watch that I'd pay a ticket, I'd kickstart it I'd give it a kiss on the lips kickstart it oh my god give it a kiss on the lips. Kickstart it. Oh my god. Yes. That was a really Cameron joke. Wow.

What was that? That's my enemy you're talking about right now, Mandy. I'm gonna have to ask you to back off. Mandy, you're the chosen one. That was a Cameron joke. I'm sorry. No, I take it back. Mandy, are you not going to talk about Viper?

Should I talk about Viper on this? Yes. What the fuck is... Okay. Of course I want to hear about Viper. I'm sure some of the people listening are going to know who he is, but there's a rapper named Viper and he made the famous single

no he made the famous single Yule Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack he's made a few songs that have gotten some attention over the years is he on Spotify? yeah he is actually wait what's his name just Viper? just type in Yule you will cowards.

You will, you will cowards? Yes. Y-O-U apostrophe L-L cowards. Ah, you'll cow? That's him. Oh, there it is. You'll cowards don't even smoke. Are you laughing at the album art?

Yes. Yeah, that's him. Yeah, he looks like he's smoking he's so mandy do you want to he's an associate of mine yeah do you want to talk about your business relationship with viper yeah so so a few years ago he started doing um he started like outsourcing making music videos because he was trying to get his stuff out there and so i thought you know why not i'll email him about it and he selected me to do what was it called i'm looking it up that there's a stash spot i sell a1 cocaine that was it what is it called? I sell A1 cocaine

oh nice the music video is I sell number one it's somewhere out there I'll walk later but anyways so he's like okay and I talked to him I sent him some samples of like video editing stuff I've done and I said like hey I want to

basically work with you and he said okay that's great I'm going to send you some raw footage I they're gonna send you like a high quality of the song and i need you to make a music video out of it and he had like really bizarre instructions included in it one was like oh he had a really good one oh did you find it yeah i found youtube account is terminated whoa that's the one you that's the one you actually linked to me is it oh my god is the video gone the evidence gone is all the evidence gone can we not talk about the evon line ships you hidden it what no no way no i'm so sad i missed it oh wait it's okay someone Someone made a 10-hour version of it. What?

Okay. Someone looped my music video for 10 hours. Okay, go on with your story, though, yeah. Yeah, so he had instructions like, this girl has a nice rack, but her face is kind of buttery, so you could cloak it in production. And it was spelled like a third grader. You could cloak it in production? Exact words. But her face is kind of butter third grader you could cloak it in production exact words but her face is kind of buttery but you can cloak her in production like what do you cloak her did you replace her face with an eve online ship and cloak it i i

thought i thought of doing that but i didn't so anyways when i he sent me a video of himself actually making what looks like crack rock in his kitchen. Like, he was using the ice cubes and everything. And I'm seeing this happen. I'm like, oh, fuck. Like, he's actually doing this. And he wants to make a video out of it. And so I'm sitting on this.

Wait, okay. How much did he pay you for this? We'll come back to that. Okay. So I'm looking at it. I'm just like, oh, God, you know, like he's actually making drugs in this. What do I do? And so I said, I'll just make it anyways, but I'll make it.

I'll make it a little funner. So, you know, no one will think it's real. And I didn't know how. So I was like, I like the game Eve online. Maybe I'll just sneak some of the spaceships into the shots and no one will notice. How does that make it look like i what okay hang on i have questions about your reasoning because you've never explained why you put the eve online ships in there to me before in what way does hiding eve online ships in this video make it look like he wasn't making crack cocaine oh my god that is he totally is making crack cocaine. What the fuck? I like how you blurred it.

I like how you blurred it in some places just to be like, oh shit, that looks too real. I'm gonna fucking throw a blur on that. You can see me cranking up the bokeh when I'm like, uh-oh, let me just blur that out a little bit. Yeah, so it's like... This will be linked in the description, by the way.

Everyone can find this. Yeah, so... I figured this will be linked in the description by the way everyone can find this yeah so is that i figured that like if he got in trouble he'd be like hey you know it's just a joke see look there's spaceships in it it's a haha funny video i can't but for anything okay wait hang on a second mandy is okay which girl's the but there's one the first the buttery face the one with the mask on okay it's in the first it's in the first second of the video you can see a girl with the bandana on yeah or butterface she she's been other videos but oh yeah so it's like yeah and there's a few of them throughout it there's They're all over the place. He's a Houston-based rapper.

My lad. Yeah, so I'm like, if he gets, you know, if someone's asking questions, he'd go, you know, oh, it's a ha-ha joke video. But, you know, his boys on the streets are going to watch it, and they're not going to fucking notice that. Like, no one's going to see those. Wow. That's a nice kitchen.

Playing chess. Honestly? Honestly, that's a very nice kitchen to make yeah if you go to um 315 and that it shows that you can see like oh there's there's me i edited that so yeah this is really good this is really so i made him this and he was really happy with it before was that like yeah he loved it. He absolutely loved it. Wait, where... Oh, there's the ship.

Yeah. It's completely true. I didn't even see it at first. It just appears when he... Do you know some of the spaceships? Oh my God. How many spaceships did you hide? There's quite a few

there's quite a lot there's stuff hidden all over it I put like my characters like a cop who appears at the end I cropped a police hat on him it's really something else I just saw it wait at the end

you didn't even mask it it's just the fucking flat box! I love it! I love it so much. It's like three minutes exactly, I think. Oh, three minutes te- seven. Alright, hang on.

Here, I can just copy the- Here's the time- He's got some pretty good moves. Yeah, I made sure to edit his dancing so it would look really cool. It's really not even a subtle effect. I just thought it was funny. It's so stupid.

God. He loved it. He loved all of it. I can't believe this. before the bitch cocaine on the street the thing is he was submitting that video to like vh1 and like all these um these like hip-hop sites and they were running it it's like no one really knew what this was and i guess before his account got shut down for he might have had another Probably showing you how to make himself making real drugs. Probably got him in trouble.

But it had like a few hundred thousand views before it got smacked down. Mandy, I gotta say, I love how everything you do somehow loops back around to EVE Online. Yeah, but the problem is he then offers... He was really adamantly like, you know, I'll pay you for your work.

The thing is, he's offering to pay me after I've seen the video of him making the crack rocks in his kitchen. Yeah. And so I was like, you know what, Viper? I've really dug your music. You can just have that for free. And there needs to be no financial ties between us. And he was like, well, I'll offer you some shares in my moving company oh my god are you about to post the moving company picture yeah you should probably put that in the video

too okay i will he's like it's it's called vipers free movers and it's a moving company and he sent me the logo this is the real logo for his moving company. Oh my god. Holy fucking shit. It's just a graph. It's just a graph. No, Mandy, it's not just a graph. There is much more than just a graph here. There's Houston in the background. Houston is in the background.

There's a graph. There's him shirtless with covering. He's cutting his face. He didn't even frame it so the top of his head would be in the picture yeah it's like all cut off there's like what what oh it's not even oh the white lines on the sides like the borders they're not even they're not even oh my god it's not even symmetrical it's just the graph of nothing i have no idea what the graph is for the graph has services construction manufacturing production and total they're just going up and he probably liked it he googled graph yeah hang on a second if i google

image search graph how far do i have to scroll to find that one so do you have shares in his moving companies well i actually looked it up and i might be able to find there I'd have to look really deep but I looked a few years ago and there were reviews for it and by actually no there's only one review that I at least remember and it was from one lady saying that oh well the workers both showed up drunk

and without shirts and they were they were continually dropping things during the move it wasn't a real moving truck it was a pickup truck they had I guess glued And they were continually dropping things during the move. It wasn't a real moving truck. It was a pickup truck they had, I guess, glued or hammered on like some sort of wooden frame around the back to make it look like a box. So he had like some Ed, Edd, and Eddie contraption that he was shoving people's furniture into to move around. And he kept dropping stuff because he was always on his A1 cocaine

or something during the moves. Wow. So I also declined stock in Viper Free Movers Incorporated. But it was a beautiful, almost partnership that happened between us. I still have his phone number, at least. Yeah. If you ever need any musical production on the podcast. Can we get Viper to do the intro? Yeah, let we get Viper to do the intro?

Yeah, let's get Viper to do an intro. We'll pay him at least three hot dogs. Can we get Viper to do an ad read? I don't... I don't... I think... He might not be your best sponsor. Having a drug dealer, someone who literally makes drugs, endorse one of our sponsors, I feel

might be the wrong move. What if he's our sponsor? Oh my god, could we be... I need you to connect us to Viper Free Movers Incorporated. Mandy. I don't know if he could afford to be a sponsor. He can for this podcast.

For this podcast. Ever since the flooding hit he was tweeting about um how he was selling cassette tapes to make the ends meet oh shit oh oh i didn't tell you about the harness of death he has what you haven't told me about this either death yeah so about two years ago he started wearing this woman's corset to like lose weight that's but then he put on like two or three at the same time. He calls it the harness of death or the thawed.

What the fuck? Like this. He calls it the thawed. What the fuck? All right. Well, I know what the title of this episode is. The thing is...

I was really hoping it would be the Russian, but the Thod takes it. But he doesn't say the harness, he spells it, he calls it the Hornus of Death. Because Vycra can't spell. And for the past two years, he's constantly tweeting about how it's going to kill him. Oh my god, he has a Twitter. I'm following him right now. He already follows me. Of course he does.

Yeah, but he actually follows a fuckload of people. With my feet. One, two, five. One, two, five. I'm going to read this tweet. Who's reading this tweet out loud? Mandy. D2J0.

I work out almost every day preparing for my final battle with my five enemies. Thawed one through five. Daydreaming of a way to defeat them. Problem is, every day I get stronger, they get stronger. It's almost as if they're a mimic of me. A mirror of reflection. Mocking my attempts at futility. So what happens is, every time he survives a month

wearing it, he adds another hornet to the collection. What? And then he calls it the Thod 2 or the Thod 4. And when he can't stand it anymore, he gives up. Wait, wait, wait, sorry. He has hundred k followers vipers yeah vipers vipers fucking he's famous man this is my favorite one though because it was actually about a year ago

today when he was getting pneumonia what are these letter number codes at the beginning day seven jay's journey okay day seven is what day of the thought yeah i know what is jay's journey to? Okay, day seven is what day of the thought cycle he's on. Yeah, I know, but what is J? J is journey. Journey. I guessed it. I fucking did it. Yeah. Journey zero? What is journey zero? What? That means he started over. He basically... Wait, what? He's basically new game plus. Okay, wait, no, no, no. Hang on. I have a

question. What does journey mean if when he starts over, journey goes down to zero? Okay, so like he puts on one... What is this for? He puts on one core set. He goes down to zero. Okay. So, like, he puts on one... What is this lore? He puts on one corset. He makes it a month. Okay. He puts on a second. Okay. That would be Journey

zero Thawed two. But if he gets to a point where he can't wear them anymore, the Journeys start over. But he might not restart with a new Thawed. So it might be Thawed 4, Journey 0. But you can't have Journey 5, Thawed 1.

I don't understand this at all. Day 1. Can you explain that again? This is some of the most complex lore I've ever heard in my life. Day 1, Journey 0. I have no Thawed on me, so I'm actually in journey zero now. When Thod one and two arrive, I will wear

both siblings, jumping me to journey two, brackets J2, preparing me for Thod three to five arrival. The last three of the Thod siblings at the end of my life, picking a fight with family of five. Yeah, he's convinced these things want to kill him.

He has nightmares about them. This is also another favorite when he was finally giving up to how powerful they were. Mandy almost let us get through the podcast without bringing up Viper. So, he's bodied 100,000 people to follow him. Oh right no yule cowards was like big

a few years ago like people really that was the funniest thing yeah it's like two like cutie pie was cutie pie was talking about it at some point i know like there were people who were like this is the funniest thing but they don't know just how much they don't know how deep the viper hole goes they they really don't like journey one day one i have found the wonderful one and two fucking are there any pictures of the fucking is there a picture of the thawed if i google image thawed what comes up i think he does have some pictures of the thawed somewhere i've seen them thawed oh my god the thaw what is this okay wait wait day 44 journey one i watch a lot of movies and my favorites when the good guy has a chance of winning but in the end the bad thing

destroy him kind of like thawed five will destroy me. No spaces. No spaces. There's actually spaces, but not between, like... Words? You think I'm exaggerating. Like, Viper hypes up these journeys. It's like that. I'm finding Thod 5 next month. It's like that.

That's how he worded it. What the fuck is happening? I'm so sad. I feel like I'm having this show. By the way, I Google image searched Thod, and that's what he worded it what the fuck is happening i'm so sad i feel like i'm having by the way i google image search thought and that's what came up what what is that i have no idea okay that's a barrel that's a door kyle's typing i think he's made some music videos talking about the thawed I don't I would have to look but yeah he's he's not kidding about the hornets of death

I wish I had something in my life I cared about as much as he cares about the thawed yeah like he talks about having nightmares about it he's like next month like I'm going to fight thawed 5 but it will probably take my life and he talks about having nightmares about it. He's like, next month, like, I'm going to fight Thod V, but it will probably take my life. And he gets, like, actually depressed about it. Holy shit.

Does he actually have a PhD in business? Have a what? A PhD in business. No, 2019. He's going to get a PhD in business. He's thinking ahead. It might be from a degree mill, but I'm going to wish wish my best on that license

real estate broker 2018 next year's gonna be real estate broker then a year after that he's gonna have a phd in business what is freemovers.com i don't know i think he just thinks okay i think he thinks that typing freemovers.com on his twitter made the website yeah he thinks this is his website that's my that's what i'm interpreting from that this is definitely not his yeah no this is a website yeah you can you can buy his cassettes right now i think we need i think we done i think we're done i don't know where we go from viper i feel like viper i think listen i'm gonna be honest viper's a rabbit hole we yeah that's what i'm like viper i think listen i'm gonna be honest viper's a rabbit hole we yeah that's what i'm that's what i'm saying we need if we maybe at some point there

will be a viper centric episode and we will discuss the lord i hope not the deep lord viper on mandy you got the you got the hook up you got the hook up i i don't think he could only because i don't think he understands discord that's I don't think he understands Discord. That's fair. Because he wanted to play EVE Online when I told him more about it. But he didn't seem to understand how desktops worked. That's fair. Fair enough.

He was like, I like how they're all getting shot, but that looks like a lot of buttons. I said, yeah, that's a pretty good review of it. Look, man, you don't have time to worry about computers when you gotta worry about the THOD. That's a really good point. Yeah, no, I think that's where we call it.

There's nowhere to go from Viper. Yeah, Viper is the end. So you can follow Viper at rapper Viper. Yeah, follow Viper at rapper Viper on Twitter. Mandy, plug your shit oh yeah I'm a mandalore gaming one word and I do

really irrelevant games but it's a good time for everybody it is it's a great time and his twitter is lord underscore mandalore is that it is it it is it's lord underscore mandalore I got it

yeah follow mandy Is it? I think so. It's lord underscore Mandalore. I got it. Yeah. Follow Mandy. Keep up with Viper. David? Don't forget to follow David. Yeah. Yeah, on Twitter. On SoundCloud.

Spotify. Are you okay? No. I'm listening to are you listening to viper right now i can't i can't say the name to this song but it's good he has dozens of albums it's all it's mostly cloud rap and some are just the previous song in reverse but they're all right yeah i'm listening to um merciless now it's good okay all right i'm at super sneak sheep on twitter and you can check out my youtube super sneak sheep as well yeah he started posting potentially you can find the game music video is on there and uh potentially another video so yeah your work is work is yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's told yeah

I'm the Cameron. I I have a I have a Twitter. It's at shammy TV. I don't really feel like plugging anything else Why not what am I gonna be am I gonna plug my main channel on this Cameron? But the Vipers, I already plugged Vipers