Plumbing the Death Star - How Dare Wizards?! (Feat. Adam & Shanks)
Episode Date: January 8, 2017In which our heroes witness a lot of fantastic beasts, find out where to find them and then rudely get their mind wiped of the whole event while asking "How Dare Wizards?!" Jackson agrees with the Sec...ond Salemers (no surprises there), Zammit has no faith in Obliviate, Shanks doesn't think the US ministry should trust Newt at all and Adam just wants to sing a song about brain damage. So join the gang as they explore the direct implications of the events of Fantastic Beasts and realise that, oh boy, things are wrong.Want to help support the show? Just head to http://www.patreon.com/sanspantsradio and you can!In Sydney in Feb? Why not come see us live! Book your tickets here; http://edgetix.com/. And you can check out our new show Geekdown right here; https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbN8u4XzYwXQ-hLn-wgo3Jw. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Death Star in which we ask the important questions like How dare wizards?
Oh no! How fucking dare they?
Who do they think they are?
Fucking wiping our memories
like what the fuck?
Like the end of Fantastic Beasts
which we've all seen
when, oh gee whiz, an Obscurus memories like what the fuck like the end of fantastic beasts which we've all seen yes when
oh gee whiz an obscurus got out thousands of people were dead died the dead in can
inconvenience a bunch of people die a lot of the city is destroyed and then the wizards are like
look let's just pretend none of it ever happened let's mind wipe an entire city with fucking our magic
bullshit and fix the city and how exact are they about the amount of memory that's being
well fingers crossed no one gets brain damage well it's that like the joke in eternal sunshine
when that when he's signing up to get the procedure done he says like am i gonna get
brain damage and he says like well technically the procedure is brain damage so surely this is just
I going to get brain damage?
And he's just like, well, technically the procedure is brain damage.
So surely this is just selected brain damage.
Yeah, well, you would imagine.
A storm of brain damage passes through the city.
We are the good guys.
Away, obliviate.
That's what it feels like.
You're like, why?
You're watching the movie and you're like, they got him.
And then you're like, wait, that's us.
Excuse me.
What?
Does that mean Manhattan is a couple days behind the rest of the world?
That's a good question Does it work based on a time allocation
Like it's removing the last couple of days
Or just a couple of days related to the memory things
Like the man in black thing
The problem there was that they had to sort of convince an eagle
To be like this is the specifics we want
So not just wipe their memory,
but wipe their memory in a way
and then implant a memory
that it was just a giant rain season
that real fucked everyone good.
Does the eagle have any control over it?
The eagle makes a storm,
but he doesn't make the memory wipe stuff.
It's a poison from a other creature thing.
Yeah, which means it's not exact at all.
It's just like a random let's not exact at all. It's just, it's just.
Oh, yeah.
Just like a random, let's hope we got it.
What is Scamander just doing his calculations wrong?
All of Manhattan just grueling.
Calculations.
You see him do any calculations?
Scamander just does it, right?
Yeah.
And he's trusted by the American ministry to be like, go for it.
Like, he was a fugitive, like, ten seconds ago.
Like, you don't know anything about this guy.
He could be killing all the muggles.
He has broken laws. Imagine if they were just like, we chuck. He could be killing all the muggles. He has broken laws.
Imagine if they were just like, we chucked it up there,
and all the muggles just start dropping.
Oh, no.
I'm also Johnny Death.
Gotcha.
Because it was a death from above, wasn't it?
That was the creature he got the poison from?
Yeah, I think so.
Or was it a different creature?
I don't know.
Because the big eagle thing comes out.
Call Dave.
The big eagle thing comes out at the uh end and the america what are they called american ministry yeah i don't know what they're called magical uh continental congress or something
like that misis or something maccus maccus maccus that's the one um but they don't they just see the
the eagle and they're like Fly eagle fly They don't know
If they're like
And also drop the poison
Yeah like they
They don't
They just trust him
And they shouldn't
Madam President scares me
On a fundamental level
Because I feel like
If it were
If I were
If I'd seen something magical
And they couldn't
Obliviate me
They'd kill me
Yeah oh definitely
I feel that right
Yeah
They've got no
Time
Like in that movie The muggles that are, like...
I don't want to be death-potioned.
You don't want to be...
Yeah, exactly.
Dropped you in that strange thing of memories.
Oh, yeah, that was fucking crazy.
That was messed up.
But, like, you know, we're supposed to hate, in that movie,
the witch-hunter people,
because they're beating each other with belts or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, like, the sentiment is right.
Yeah.
Like, I'm with them on, like, a basic level.
Yeah.
You know?
I mean, don't beat your kids, but, like, the wizards shouldn't.
Well.
Unless they're magical, then you gotta get them.
Does it still count as, like, assassinating a president if they were, like, a presidential hopeful?
Because that's kind of what they do in that movie.
Yeah.
MACUSA.
MACUSA.
MACUSA, yes.
That shore guy.
Yeah.
Like, he was going to be president or something like that, right?
He was a front runner.
Yeah, but that was more of a senator.
That was Obscurus.
That wasn't...
This was basically...
Yeah, that was.
That wasn't the ministry.
That was more of a point the side plot that went nowhere.
Like, literally nowhere.
Don't worry.
We'll get it in one of the five prequels.
Right.
Great.
Who knows how effective this magic is?
Because it's not very, because it's Kowalski, that's his name, yeah?
Yeah.
He remembers it because he makes things out of the things he saw.
Yeah, that's true.
Plus, he's in the next one.
Yeah.
So, like, it didn't work.
Or is it reversible?
What if you had a rogue...
It is reversible.
Yeah, because in the Harry Potter books,
Gilderoy Lockhart slowly gets his memory back after he obliviates himself.
Right.
And Obliviate, which I'm assuming is far more specific.
Yeah.
That's far more intense than a...
So probably really easy to reverse the...
This is like Willowbark compared to the...
Aspirin.
Aspirin, yeah.
Is this kind of like if they see anything magical,
are they just going to be like, oh, Jesus!
Oh, it's all coming back to me.
Like a Donna Noble-esque type thing from Doctor Who
where you mention space and she's like,
oh, my brain's about to implode.
Is this what's going to happen?
The plot of the sequel is somebody's trying to play a movie
that's just like, magic!
And everyone's going to see it.
And everyone's going to get their memory back. A talkie on the radio it's like the wizard of oz no no no no no no no actually that'd be kind of sick if they went like you know the uh possibly apocryphal story of orson welles's uh war of the
worlds when he did that uh radio play and everyone freaked out because they thought it was a real
thing if they do that and suddenly the entirety of new york starts thinking like girl magic is real that would be kind of good because then you'd have like that
proper conflict between muggles and wizards instead of just wizards fucking dominating
us and us being like goddess yeah we don't even say that because we don't know i also hate how
fucking because like it's not just that situation that one's bad that one's indicative of the whole
problem but like if you watch all the films, you read all the books, wizards have
this terrible opinion of us.
They do. Wizards think we're garbage.
They do. Well, they kind of are. But so are they.
But I always get mad because they're like,
muggles don't know anything. Do they? And I'm like, you're wearing
fucking pants. You took a train
to your school. Guess who invented
those? Us. Muggles.
Well, this might be...
Gun pen?
We did that. what have you done well this might be opening up a massive can of worms but when did wizards
like no but when did wizards you say muggles made pants and sure but when pants were invented
was it only muggles does wizards come from muggles?
Or was there an Adam, Eve, and Albus?
And that was kind of where, you know.
Did we just like kind of make our own history where we just lie to ourselves that we made pants when really it was some kind of wizard?
We're like, we're just all squibs.
Maybe that's it.
Like maybe it was always wizards and then like we just asc like We're just all squibs Maybe that's it Like maybe it was always wizards
And then like
We just ascended
From a group of squibs
But the population of wizards
Is really minuscule
It's gotta be
You know I remember reading it
For another episode
It's tiny
It's like
Not even a hundred thousand
In Britain or something
Yeah
It's tiny
It's very small
But then is it like
An X-Men thing
That's like
I don't know
Or is it like a left handed thing
You know what I mean
Yeah You know what I mean? Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like a certain percentage of the people are just this.
So not to make it X-Men again, but like Apocalypse,
would there have been like a wizard in ancient Egypt who was like the dude?
Like Ra was just some sick, like, pre-Slytherin.
I remember somewhere in a book They're talking about like cavemen
Being wizards
So I think it's like
So I think like
From the dawn of humanity
Of like the Neanderthals
The Homo sapiens
And then just like whatever wizards are
Or even like a Neanderthal fucking wizard
Oh man
And like the original ones just being sticks You grab off a tree like just snapping it Because for some reason when you say Neanderthal fucking wizard. Oh, man. And like the original ones just being sticks.
You grab off a tree, like just snapping it.
Because for some reason, when you say Neanderthal wizards,
I picture like, you know, cavemen in Flintstones.
And then like panning right, there's just like somebody in a Hogwarts uniform.
Like they're still looking.
Little tie, little skirt.
They've got like the giant club.
Like, I don't care.
Smack him in the face
A club wand is fucking sick
That's so good
And then when magic doesn't work
You smack a cunt
Yeah
You know why they have such a disparaging opinion of us?
Because they've been isolated from us
Since like witch hunting times
Which is when they separated from the general populace
I always had this theory that our muggle cultural idea
Because we have an idea of wizards.
Like we're already, like as muggles, you know,
we write stories about wizards.
That is just from centuries and centuries and centuries of obliviating.
Like, you know how like, whatever his name is,
Nomadge mate from Kowalski.
He's making like the dough of like magical creatures.
I think it's quite fresh in his mind.
But us, we've just got this idea of wizards
that have obliviated us so long
it's become like this cultural idea
that we all have in our heads.
Same with dragons.
When you've expressed that opinion once before
and I couldn't stop thinking about
how funny would it be if in the Harry Potter canon
the Harry Potter books are because J.K. Rowling got obliviated.
And just remembers it.
And just is like, I like I gotta get out somehow I
always had this theory and I think I've expressed it in another episode that we were like mates with
wizards up until World War II and that wizards during World War II saw what we did what we were
capable of doing to minorities that'd be great and they're like oh god and then they did like
a group obliviate on us because well yeah, yeah. I think they say specifically, though, it's like the Salem witch trials was roughly when they decided isolationism.
That's cool.
I like that a lot.
I think it was, yeah, the witch trials were when they became isolationists.
I think World War II would have been the final nail in the coffin of, like, yeah, we are definitely helping these fuckers.
Well, the only reason I chose World War II is because they have, like, radios and, like, record players and all of their technology
seems to stop around World War II,
which is when we maybe stopped sharing our goods.
And Grindelwald was meant to be in cahoots with the
Nazi party, wasn't he? Of course he was.
They just say that they did it at the same time.
That seems kind of coinciding-y.
Yeah. It does seem weird the wizards
wouldn't help against the Nazis.
Why didn't wizards stop the Holocaust?
They can, but they just didn't.
Adam's opinions aside, they were pretty clearly the bad guys.
I'm not a racist.
You know who would say that.
Hitler had some right ideas.
That's all I'm saying.
Well, I think politically he had some very right ideas.
That's what I'm saying. Well, I think politically he had some very right ideas. That's what I meant.
But like one wizard going into Auschwitz, just one.
Yeah.
Could have saved a genocide.
Could have stopped a genocide with one jelly leg.
Exactly.
But instead the wizards are like,
I don't want to get involved in Muggle affair.
Fuck off to Finland.
I think this is the problem
of isolation. So we had the witch trials
then all these atrocities happen in
the human world.
The human realm.
And they were just like, well, we're not getting involved
no matter what it is. So hopefully in the next kind of
films we get people being like, no, no, we should be helping
and then the MACUSAs
or whatever being like, no, no, no.
We shouldn't. I've got a spinoff.
Okay.
I want to see Rogue One, but magic, World War II,
where the whole wizard community is like, we're not helping,
but there's this little, like, rebellious wizard who's like,
I don't care what you say, we're going to do him a bit.
And, like, this, like, little ragtag group of, like, rebel wizards
sneak into the fucking beaches of
normandy and help out the goodies oh man don't you want to see like all the different like magical
abilities like ones uh what are you called the ones that can become animals yeah like an animagus
or whatever just like a big lion running up the beaches because i don't want to see like all
wizards involved in one and two that would just be this big fuck off ridiculous spectacle but if
it was this little ragtag group
and you kept it kind of
small yeah just like the
501st infantry has like
I think the Star Wars
thing that's why I
pulled that out
whatever there's one
little infantry platoon
has a secret wizard in
there so good that would
be kind of cool tell me
if you learned about
wizards you wouldn't be
like get them on our
side imagine you know
how like you hear an
army company has like a
pet bear?
What if that bear was secretly an anime?
Hang on.
The bear's kind of cool enough as it is.
Like a bear in the mind of a human.
That's even better.
It's more like what if the soldier was secretly a bear?
That's cool.
Humans, we already know about them. The the pm of uh i was about to talk about
yeah imagine the fresh hell that is his life he hates there's a compilation i think compilation
but in like one of the books there is like a sequence and it's just like uh like all of the
terrible wizard events getting told to the muggle prime minister which means that he does nothing about them because he can't they come in they're like hey so voldemort's back he's gonna probably
kill a bunch of you we're not helping we're not telling you to like get you on our side or to
offer you our assistance we're just letting you know bye it's kind of been like hey there's an
invisible tornado coming good luck can i can you what huh excuse me can we uh
that poor guy he tries so hard to get that painting removed the painting that tells him
that the wizard prime minister is coming and also like imagine if that if the muggle pm
the muggo pm sorry muggo being what we all assume is Australian for Muggo.
Muggo, it definitely would be.
Muggo, it's got to be.
It has to be.
Check it all and confirm.
So imagine the Muggo Prime Minister is like,
I'm going to tell them.
I'm going to tell the community.
I'm going to tell all of my fellow Muggos the situation.
Do we think he'd be killed by wizards?
Oblivied.
And then, like, removed from office, I imagine.
You'd have that second spin-off where it's like a Rogue Two movie.
Yeah.
Where you have a group of, like, what's the opposite of a rebel?
A person doing it right?
A person who works against the rebels.
A stormtrooper.
So you kind of have just, like, for the government being like,
a small group of us go in there then just obliviate this guy's mind.
Oh, secret agent wizard.
I want to see that spin off too.
I want to see James Bond as a wizard.
Who's just like, you know,
set off by the government to do like secret wizard activities
that maybe are in a morally gray area.
Like obliviating the prime minister.
But I think the thing about wizards,
the reason I hate them so much is that if,
if like the wizard PM was like,
Hey, don't worry.
We obliviated that mug. Oh fuck. All of the wizards would be like yay got him do you think it was
fuck off like guys prime minister say we're just using prime minister here because there's also
british he or she ever wanted to be like hey wizards maybe we want to know i want to tell
the rest of the people that we exist and the wizards are like no then it's like well that's not very diplomatic we should discuss this and
they have like congress like half magic half muggo kind of debating whether or not uh the
knowledge of of wizards should uh should spread well you would think that at some point but i
think wizards are too self-assured too too like um arrogant to ever even consider
the muggles the muggles were like look can we can we chat about this they'd be like no
oblivion fuck off damn but they should they very much should i like to imagine one muggo guy at
like all of the wiz like like whatever wizard un is and they're like we got you know the wizards
from africa the wizards from asia we get the wizards from America, and this one Margot guy.
Yeah, why not?
You know, again, it's such a classic thing to say,
but if the wizards had a gun,
Voldemort would not be that much of an issue
because two wands that fire at each other create that weird...
Only if they share a core.
No, that happens heaps and heaps of other movies.
Even in Fantastic Beasts they do it. Even in Fantastic Beasts, they do it.
Yeah, I hated it when they did it.
In the books, they say it only happens when it shares a core.
Well, still, a gun is quicker than mash.
We didn't see a lot of guns in Fantastic Beasts, did we?
I kind of was ready for that,
because there were a lot of coppers around.
Did the coppers shoot the Obscurus?
They did.
I tried to.
There was a big shield, and they shot that,
but I wanted to see some...
I like that even though it could fly,
for some reason the cops are like,
it flies, but we're going to set up a roadblock.
And gosh, if that Obscurus didn't actually go for the roadblock.
Ah, what a champ.
I think that's the biggest problem with like, again,
how fucking dare they
mostly it's about just wiping our minds because after the events of manhattan we should learn
from that i mean this is the this is a when we ever have any sort of attacks yeah or any kind
of thing goes wrong disasters natural or otherwise we learn from that so that we then prepare for
that yeah so you again i think in the river tames
they've got all these kind of like all right if there's a big flood or something going on
we've got all this bullshit implemented so that we can operate that so then we're not fucked we
don't have that opportunity we don't learn from this to go we're just like sheet i know with your
example imagine if there was like a fire sweeping through melbourne that the wizards weren't somehow in control of yeah and they're like all right we're not going to tell anyone
to evacuate we're just going to hope that we can quell it before too many muggos die i know what
like what do i want to know what do wizards think will happen what do wizards think will happen once
they're like hey how you doing what's up yo we're wizards what do you think we'll
do to evoke a terrible movie okay we will probably be like hey well wait we are gonna monitor you and
we're gonna force some sort of legislature to keep you guys down and kind of like at the end
of man of steel yeah superman just like grabs the satellite that's monitoring him and just like
throws it in front of the general it's like hey hey, don't monitor me. I'm Superman.
What are you going to do?
I imagine that the wizards could just be like that.
They don't have to pay attention to our laws.
Yeah.
They could try.
It'd be nice.
Because I don't think we're going to try and stop them.
I don't think we could.
Someone will. Pauline Hanson does exist.
That's a good point.
And again, if there is a 1% chance
that these wizards can go rogue,
we've got to take it as an absolute certainty.
I think Hagrid in the first book...
You're looking at me here?
You're looking at me here bringing up my X-Men mutant issues?
It's the same thing, though!
Well, yeah, it is.
You're the big proponent of killing X-Men.
Would you kill the wizards?
Yeah, I mean, probably.
We're getting by fine with Adam.
Wizards have literally brought us nothing but our sake.
And yet, when Auschwitz is brought up,
I'm the bad guy.
Well, wizards could have stopped Auschwitz, Adam.
He just admitted to doing an Auschwitz.
But Jews aren't magic, Adam.
He's doing a second.
Jews aren't bringing dragons with them.
He's doing a second.
You're letting him do it.
I'm the bad guy, am I?
Minorities are not like, guess what?
I can mind wipe you, torture you,
mind wipe you again, make you shit yourself
on purpose, mind wipe you,
then kill you. they're just like
we're just existing it's very reasonable to kill all the wizards i disagree you monster
but no i think that like again how dare they and i think trust works both ways jack well clearly
the last x many centuries has proved that it doesn't
on the wizard's part
Well yes, but the thing is they didn't trust us
because what happened?
Salem Witch Trust, do you know how many witches were actually
persecuted in Salem Witch Trust?
That's in our reality
Even in their reality
in the history book it's just like
they do a spell and the fire doesn't hurt them
and they pretend that it hurts them.
And in the book, it specifically states that one witch
thought it was so fun that she allowed herself
to get captured nine times.
How dare they?
No, I'm just on the side of I want to see that spin-off as well.
Like this kind of masochistic sex witch,
like hanging around Salem. masochistic like sex witch like hanging around salem like
sorry that's i'm just name dropping my new frog band oh my god have you guys seen the witch the
horror film that came out yeah i was meaning to oh it's good i just imagine that with like a harry
potter witch like ah get me oh man the witch in that film was so good you got to see it it's all
right very good they spell it with two V's in that, don't they?
I don't know if I like that
I don't know if I like that either
But I don't know if I don't like that
Weird, the bitch
Apropos of nothing
I drove past, drove, I don't drive
I was on a train here and I went past a building
I think it was like
It was an apartment building and it said
27 Mews, M-E-W-E-S.
And the person putting up the sign had clearly switched the M and the W,
and it was clearly the M was an upside-down W,
and the W was an upside-down M.
And it was such a subtle thing, and I was like, oh, it's a bad day's work.
What?
Maybe he's like, good.
Got him.
Maybe he did it, and then when he was presenting it,
he was daring them to comment. Got him. Maybe he did it and then when he was presenting it, he was like daring them to comment.
Yeah.
I finished.
Because it was one of those things that like,
I could see why nobody would notice this,
but like it was so obvious that it was the wrong one.
And that's why wizards should all.
Because I was like, it works both ways.
I mean, look, humans like, no, we're happy.
I think this is, oh, this is trust issue.
Because they're like, if we find out you're a witch, we're going to burn you. But then they're like If we find out you're a witch
We're going to burn you
But then they're like
Well if you're going to burn us
We'll just pretend to be burnt
So fuck you
And then they just take it to the extreme
Because not only if you find us out you burn us
Well guess what
We can wipe your mind
So it feels like we poke the bear
And the bear just wiped our mind
I like them patronising us by pretending to get burned.
I think that's them being like, well, let the children play.
Let us burn you.
Let the Wookiee win.
Excuse me?
What, Jack?
That wasn't the takeaway message.
Let us burn them in our ovens?
Is that what you're trying to say?
If the wizards were like, look, it's not working,
then maybe we could come to an accord,
but letting us hurt them
So our first go-to move
Is to burn them
I'm sure that wasn't our first go-to move
Oh, guys, it's not working
We're like, oh, it's not working
Well, I guess we're going to have a discourse now
No, we're going to be like
You're following the
False wizard narrative
That's what this is Because you're imagining that this're following the false wizard narrative, Sam.
That's what this is, because you're imagining that this burning is coming out of nowhere,
where evidently it's not.
Evidently, we've had centuries of wizards- Of wizards stopping the harvests from growing.
Exactly.
My maze!
In the Harry Potter world, it is not-
They're stopping the ma-
How dare they!
It's not a reasonable practice to assume that the wizards are spoiling our milk.
That the wizards are killing our cats and livestock.
Actually, hang on.
Wizards are very reckless with their matches.
Yeah.
You see them occasionally.
They'll just cast a spell and then something else will just go boom and off to the side.
But people are also stupidly superstitious.
But with reason
why, it's not outside their own possibility
to have fucking,
you know, Jack B. Dingus
going like, I'm gonna stir up me pot of
soup, and as they're stirring it, getting
forgetful or whatever, and then someone's
milk spoils next door, because that's
part of the twin spell. Plus,
I think the wizards have been rather,
alright, I don't like the
obliviating stuff like that, but when they were
like, separatist,
that was rather reasonable because
that solves the problem
of, we try to kill them
and it solves the problem of, they try to
fuck with us if, you know,
depending how high a level that is.
The problem comes in
where, you could be separatist,
but if we discover you, don't obliviate us, just be separatist.
They're basically like a shadow government for the entire world.
They're a one world order.
They are like the Templars or the Stonecutters.
They're the Illuminati puppeteering the planet.
Alex Jones needs to do a radio show about, like, wizards.
They don't care about what's happening.
It really does.
They don't care about what's happening to muggles.
They just care that we don't know about them.
They're not puppeteering us.
I think they kind of do care, but I think
it's from a caring place. Like, I don't think they're like,
we don't want those muggles to get too smart for their
own good, see?
I think they kind of want to make sure things are cool.
Like, for every World War II that happened for every Hiroshima,
I reckon there were probably a couple of muggle disasters
that were averted with the help of the ministry.
That's the vibe I get from the fact that they do have some governmental ties.
Yeah, and they can't be everywhere.
But also, then there comes the problem.
They probably saved us from a Clinton presidency.
Like, they saved us from lots of things.
Good on them.
But this problem there with their isolationists, yes,
they can be isolationists if they have their own island or whatever,
their own country where their word is law and all that kind of stuff,
but they don't.
They coexist with us.
Yeah.
In fact, there could be a fucking wizard house on top of this house,
and we wouldn't know.
You'd have no idea.
You'd have no idea.
Not their style.
They'd do it in between houses.
Oh, yeah.
There's a scene in The Half-Blood Prince where they're like,
we need to go into whatever Grim, maybe it's Order of the Phoenix,
whatever the Sirius Black's family home is.
Sirius Black's?
Sirius Black's family home.
You know where that is?
An inner city family living next door.
It's in between two apartment buildings.
Yeah.
And when they, like, bwop, they open it,
it just pushes the other apartments aside,
and they're like muggles in there,
just drinking their tea as everything shakes,
like it's no big deal.
Douglas Adams wrote in the Hitchhiker's Series
about an SEP field,
which is somebody else's problem field,
whereby basically you could just have a UFO in the middle of the street
and cast using someone else's problem technology.
People would see it, but they'd just be like,
oh, that's someone else's problem.
So no one would ever register that it was there.
And is that kind of the truth with some wizard magic stuff?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, most people can see it.
With Hogwarts, isn't it that they basically have someone else's problem field all around it? So everyone's like, well, it's over. Kind of the truth with some wizard magic stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, some wizards can see it.
Hogwarts, isn't it?
They basically have someone else's problem field all around it,
so everyone's like, well, it's over.
Nah, don't worry about it. Yeah, the Westworld, this looks like nothing to me.
It's kind of like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it...
Doesn't Hogwarts look like a burned-out castle?
Yeah, it looks...
Hull it out, empty.
It's got a big sign that says,
do not enter or be liberated.
The only thing they have to fend off is film students.
Yeah.
They're trying to make real moody music videos.
But, like... In fact, they're they're like doing a poker class and there's just like film crew behind them
yeah there's a black metal band in full makeup
just like running through the room
film crew's like someone else has already come in here
you guys shouldn't have a Harry Potter movie
what? the universe collapses
but like it's interesting
You know we're talking shit
Like at the idea that
When we were burning witches
That wasn't justified
But when was Salazar Slytherin around
When was Hogwarts founded
Oh man he should be burnt
Yeah there is evil wizards
That's a thing
Evil wizard
Also I mean like
This is like
Beautiful
When is your tour I don't know well this uh
you just get a little little bit of sizzle for a massacre sex which
but like and there's i don't know like um uh uh what was i gonna say evil wizard yeah so here's a
here's something that it would be maybe like interesting for us muggles to know.
Souls exist.
Oh, that's true.
Do they exist for muggles?
Do muggles have souls?
Are we dogs?
In the way that in Star Wars, only Jedi ghosts we see.
Like if fucking... Good one.
If, you know, Grand Moff dies in the Death Star
Spoiler alert for the original Star Wars
Can Grand Moff's ghost
Come back?
That'd be very funny
Just sitting watching Vader getting burned
Being like dickhead
That's actually a great edit that needs to be made
Where Luke looks up and it's all the friendly Jedi
And then Grand Moff Tarkin's ghost appears
And Luke's just like the fuck is this guy?
It's me.
I'm just going around.
I'm just getting mad.
I'm disappointed in all of this.
Well, then wouldn't it be interesting
for us muggles to know
we don't have souls?
Well, yeah.
But no, when all the souls
are coming out of Voldemort's wand,
aren't some of them muggles?
Yeah, they are.
One of them is.
So we got souls. We're rocking them. Wizards aren't letting us them muggles? Yeah, they are. One of them is. One of them is.
So we got souls.
We're rocking them.
Wizards aren't letting us know that.
That old guy is a bloody champ.
He comes out and he's like,
that the guy that killed me?
Get him, Harry.
Do muggles therefore have an afterlife within the Harry Potter universe?
Because it feels as though the afterlife
is kind of only accessible through the use of magic.
Magical paintings.
That's clearly some
degree of afterlife point uh ghosts ghosts only in the magic realm can it be muggle ghosts and
uh that's a lonely existence if you're a muggle ghost like wizard ghosts get to be like hang out
and be like the moment you become a muggle ghost you're kind of like get access to the wizard biz
no you actually can't be a muggle ghost because only a wizard can stay behind.
So there must be some magic to it because nearly headless Nick is like,
if you die and you're afraid, you don't want to go on for whatever reason you don't go on,
you become a ghost instead.
But the go on implies some afterlife.
But muggles aren't getting it. A white empty train station.
Muggles can't stay as ghosts.
But like, you know, another thing
that the Muggles could have told us, I mean the
wizards could have told us about, is in
the sixth book
when the Dementors attack
London and they suck
a bit of Dudley's soul out. Yeah.
That's not good. No one really does
anything. You know what would be really good for the
wizards to tell us about? Oh, werewolves exist.
Yeah.
You know all these magical creatures?
Also dragons.
They'll fuck up your town.
There's an actual, there's a group of wizards whose job it is, is when like a magical creature
exists to just like mind wipe us.
Yeah.
You know, Jackson, you know what the wizards are keeping you from?
Squatches.
Squatches.
Squatches.
They are too.
I think the Yeti is a book in the...
It is.
The Yeti is a book in the... It is. The Yeti is a book in the...
What is it called?
The Book of Magic?
Fantastic Beasts and...
Oh, the name of the movie.
Does it imply a variety of squatches
of which sass is only a single variety?
You've got your sass squatch,
you've got your bass squatch.
Squatches of the world.
You love your squatches
and they're taking this from you
How fucking dare they
Why? To what end?
What are you getting out of it, wizards?
I have a pitch as to why wizards are keeping themselves from us
I think that all of the holy texts of the world
Were written by wizards
To test how humanity would react
To higher powers existing
And much like in star trek's prime
directive they have made the decision we cannot interfere with a more primitive people i mean if
i don't know you guys like star trek at all but they have the prime directive is like if you
haven't accessed warp travel you can't interact with them because they're still evolving still
finding their identity as a species and wizards are maybe kind of the same like if if they started
wizarding it up and they're like hey would, like what would that do to an already fairly religiously indoctrinated population of the world?
That would just shatter so many kind of fundamental religious things and also create many more.
The church of muggles who kneel at the altar of Albus Dumbledore would be, would be massive.
Because here,
here's just a legit,
like all of the stuff we,
we've got about Christ and all that.
He's centuries years old,
but walk on water.
Motherfucker can,
you know,
giggle through fire.
Like,
I know in the past,
what did a wine?
What did a butterbeer?
You're going to be like,
what are the butterflies?
But you know, in the past, we've joked about Jesus being a wizard. Yes. What are the butterbeer? You're going to be like, what are the butterflies? Whoa!
Well, you know, in the past we've joked about Jesus being a wizard.
Yes.
But if you assume that, like, you're saying that all of our current religion,
like, what if that's a wizard ploy?
Oh, to keep us in the dark.
Yeah.
What if they're like, look, in the past we didn't have as complicated
or as clever spells
we couldn't obliviate everyone but people are gonna see us do wizard shit so if we create the
idea of saints we create the idea of your jesus's your miracles existed before they separated from
us well or so we think do they find it in our minds yeah or so we think i mean i was i was sort
of more pitching what if it's kind of a litmus test
to figure out whether or not we're mature enough
to deal with supernatural things.
I like that idea.
I want to see the wizards that are like
planting religious relics
to make everything look like it's a lot older than it is.
That sounds like fun.
That sounds like a good job.
Ministry, if you're listening,
I know a little bit about archaeology. I can help you out that put me in high i don't want any magic i just want
to fool people it'll be good because then i could like magically ageify something yeah so like this
parchment so what are they looking for from us what's uh their goal what they're actually
i'm sticking with my star trek thing they want a Roddenberry and Utopia
where our
ideals and
philosophically minded
joyous perfect people are
at the logical end of our technology
where we're not destroying the planet and killing
people when we're mature
from a group of wizards who very
almost systematically birth
a dark lord.
Like, once a fucking generation.
That's true.
Maybe we're keeping them in the dark as well.
Like, when you can stop birthing Moldavans.
But you might be onto something here.
Oh, but wizards do religion as well.
Do they?
Yeah.
That's sick.
They decorate for, like, Christmas and stuff.
Yeah, they do religion as well.
They just can be aed over from all the
Muggle-borns. Hogwarts is...
J.K. Rowling once stated specifically, it was like
a tweet, so take this as canon as you want,
but that Hogwarts is a non-denominational
school. Well, they
again, because they have, you know,
Muggle family, that kind of stuff.
I mean, I celebrate
Christmas, but I'm, you know,
not even Jewish.
Well, I think you might but I'm, you know, not even Jewish. So there you go.
Well, I think you might be onto something here with this whole prime directive,
because, again, Jack, if you yourself had found out that wizards exist,
what do you want to do?
Do I know wizards exist right now?
Yep.
Do I know where they are?
Yep.
What are you actually...
What would you actually do
Strapping on a suicide vest and running
So I know where Hogwarts is
For this mind experiment
Yes
Okay
Well the hardest part is going to be
Convincing anyone to nuke an abandoned car
Well
You've just proven their point
I think you're kind of proving their point that
like maybe we're not ready to know that they exist i don't know that we could hurt them in any
but that's this is it then this is the witch trials again yeah they would just fake it and
be like not weren't ready again now you know this is what happened oh it looks like we're gone
yeah well done maybe this is what happened they were like Luke, we're gone. Well done. Maybe this is what happened. They were like, all right, let's see where they're going.
Well, let's present ourselves to the world.
And like, hey, we're here.
We exist.
Isn't that sick?
They're like, burn them.
They're like, well, dickheads couldn't comprehend.
That witch who liked being burned is going to love nuclear fire.
But again, it didn't just come out of nowhere.
You've got your Salazar's.
I'm saying people already kill them But you're like
You're just going straight to wiping them out
They're rotten eggs
They don't want to be wiped out
There are two we know of
I mean Hitler existed but I don't think we should cleanse the earth of humans
Yeah
Well I'm one radical gentleman
That's one radical
Anti-wizards opinion
I'm sure if wizards came out to a more reasonable person
Then we'd open a dialogue with them and sort something out
Jack you have two modes
One of them is laughable goofball
The other is genocidal mania
But again if you think about this
You're saying like oh what did the wizards do to cause asylum witch trials
What if they did nothing
What if they said we exist and we're going to turn this water...
Your no smoke without fire argument has been used before to incite terrible things.
But we already know Salazar Slytherin existed.
Salazar Slytherin hates a muggle.
This group has had enough of your fear mongering.
This is very Trumpian.
So again, you have one wizard being like, look, guys, hi, Salem.
Hey, there are such things as wizards and witches. Look at me
turn this bucket of water into butterflies.
Isn't that amazing? They're just like, you are
an abhorrent, you're an abomination,
and you are spitting in the face
of our god, as
Shanks is pointing out. And then they're like, well, you are
clearly not prepared for this. We're going to burn you.
Sure, buddy, burn us, I guess.
And then one person will be like, oh, burning
us? Oh all get on top
of that sit in this room for his health hating human beings I was about to say
it looks like you're fighting against the room to even it up I was gonna take
your side thank you but exceptionalism look at it you're like oh us humans
we're so bad I'm not saying when the Wizards out of nowhere I'm not taking
we're bad but right now you're like
You found out that wizards exist
Your go to is nuke
Ultimate power corrupts ultimately
Because historically speaking
We did burn witches
And they don't exist
So they didn't do anything wrong
And we burnt them anyway
To Jack's argument
So like we said Jack Jack knows about wizards
and he's like,
I'm gonna kill them all.
He has to convince someone
to try to nuke them.
How hard is that?
One wizard
could wipe out
a lot more humans
than one human
could wipe out wizards.
If I was a wizard
and the roles were switched,
humanity's done.
Yep.
You know?
It is.
That's so much power
for, like, I hate
mutants. Because one mutant might be
on fire, right? And could potentially
burn down a house.
Wizards can be on fire.
They can torture us.
They got a spell. We can torture
them. Not with one wand.
We can with like a towel and a bucket of water.
Yeah. A wizard could get out of that. Mother can't. a towel and a bucket of water. Yeah.
A wizard could get out of that.
Muggle can't.
How?
Wizard could use wandless magic.
Apparate.
Become a dog.
He'd turn the water into butterflies, which would lift the towel.
I wish he didn't teach him that spell.
It's too useful.
Far more useful than we ever... Imagine like a muggle wizard war,
and they're just going to all of our reservoirs and water supplies.
He's going like, butterflies, butterflies. There's a... So thirsty. There's a muggle wizard war. And they're just going to all of our reservoirs and water supplies. You're just being like, butterflies, butterflies.
There's a...
So thirsty.
There's a Vonnegut book.
I forget what it's called.
And in it, somebody invents like a compound
that if it touches water, it will instantly freeze it
no matter how large the body of water is
and how great that can be
and how potentially dangerous it is.
And if that's what our butterfly spell is,
like if you just said it once on the ocean,
the whole planet is butterflies.
Or just
one real big one.
Mothra squared.
In a straight out fight
we lose because
humans, humanity,
we lose because
they can get rid of our guns but we can't get rid
of their wands. Yeah, we can snap their wands.
If we get up to them in time.
Yeah, but they could be like,
ah, your gun is a snake from any range.
But you're still fear-mongering here.
Because 99% of wizards...
It doesn't take 99%, it takes one guy.
Yeah, exactly.
There was one guy, and the rest of the wizards stopped him.
That's probably why they're being so isolationist.
The rest of the wizards denied the existence of that wizard.
All right.
Let me explain to you something.
The good wizards need to win 100% of the time.
Because if they lose once, we're fucked.
We're done.
We're in the dust. But that's assuming that
the one plan of the evil wizard is
to destroy all humans.
It always is. It was. That was
Grindelwald's deal. No, he was just like
he just didn't want to be living in the shadows. No, no, he wanted
to enslave us. But also he can't just do that
with one spell. There's no like one
destroy planet spell. I'm looking
at a dungeon master right now. Is there
a destroy planet spell? In Harry Potter I don't know they have yet to release the harry potter dnd module is it like
just like a long one like the age of empire's equivalent of building a wonder like it'll take
a thousand years but then you're good i think we could go into destroying the world in dnd but
let's not the elder wand you can get it done no it'd be a long video with the elder wand
exactly oh wait unless they get you in your sleep no you can't it done. No, it'd be a lot longer. No one can defeat you with the Elder Wand.
Exactly.
Oh, wait, unless they get you in your sleep.
No, you can't be defeated with the Elder Wand.
That's the point of the Elder Wand.
Everyone keeps getting defeated with it.
It's actually not that good to have the Elder Wand.
I wonder if users of the Elder Wand... It's almost like death tricked people into getting the Elder Wand, you fuck.
Anyway, no, you could...
Yes, they have to be winning 100% of the fights.
But it's like if they lose, they still have to then react to that.
And if they lose, it's going to be a series of a lot of losing to kind of enslave us and fuck us all up.
Because, again, wizards aren't as much as a mini nuke as you think they are.
Yes, they have power.
Yes, they have all this potential.
But they can't wipe out a city block.
Giants.
Dragons.
That's not a wizard.
We can nuke the giants.
That's a thing wizards have that we, muggos, don't know about.
They only need to take over the world.
Voldemort gets the giants on side.
Hogwarts just gets dragons.
There are people whose job it is to collect over the world. Voldemort gets the giants on side. Hogwarts just gets dragons. There are people whose job it
is to collect and train
dragons. You're telling me that if wizards weren't
like, let's destroy a city, they couldn't be like, yo,
dragon. Then you've got this problem now, Jack.
You've gone and killed every single fucking
wizard, right? You haven't killed the
giants and you haven't killed the dragons. Now
they're just there. They're easier to deal with.
But the people that we knew how to deal with them,
they're dead. Yeah, but like, you can set a giant on fire. Gi're easier to deal with. But the people that we knew how to deal with them, they're dead.
Yeah, but you can set a giant on fire.
Giants are all mystics.
You belligerent.
I'm picturing Jackson just running up to a giant who hasn't noticed him,
just with a little lighter at the top of his head.
Giants are nearly extinct, and dragons are just dumb animals.
We can handle both of them. Also, our only real knowledge of Harry Potter is from the books and the films, right?
And in every one of the scenarios...
Are you about to argue unreliable now, Randy?
Because I'm with that.
No, no, no.
I'm about to argue, I guess, plot armor.
Within this universe, the good guys win.
They've won every time.
It's like betting on Sebulba.
He always wins for a great Phantom Menace reference
But then Anakin wins
There aren't enough of them
There aren't enough great Phantom Menace references
So therefore
I think any evil wizard
Kind of will lose
If history has taught us anything
We could almost just be blasé about the whole thing
It'll win out
And also with a long enough timeline
It is probably, yeah
The evil wizard will lose.
Or at least...
At the expense of muggles, though.
It's always at the expense of muggles.
Yeah, but even in our own world wars,
yes, the evil muggle lost at the expense of a lot of muggles.
That's a long enough timeline.
I'm an optimist.
I believe that progress continues forward.
I think there'll be less and less grindelwalds
and you know less and less jackson's moving forward on both sides i think as the blood
becomes less and less pure within the magical community ultimately it's going to be a moot
point anyway oh now we're about new position again forced into breathing
everyone gets magic then it's not an issue like if you take away
forced i'm with you encouraged interbreeding there we go that's not a bad point come on
wizards marry a mugger like like there'd be a whole sex do your part
like sorry if we learned about wizards that, like, a sick new fetish.
Oh, yeah.
Like, for sure.
Absolutely, yeah.
Magic porn.
Stick your wands up my butthole.
Suddenly, like, bestiality porn would be fine because it would be animagus.
Yeah.
You want to fuck a dog?
Fuck a fella.
Yeah.
Expelliarmus is my prostate.
You want to fuck a cat?
McGonagall's looking pretty good.
You're like, no.
I did.
Imagine somebody pissing and you turn into butterflies.
It cascades over your body.
Yeah, that's a way happier cum shot.
Exactly.
Imagine only the water gets turned into butterflies.
You're hit with a lot of ammonia.
Say I'm a wizard.
Right.
God forbid. But say i'm a wizard right god forbid but say say i'm a wizard you know what i would do straight away sell my wizard cum that's a sick idea do you want a wizard baby yeah i've
got the potential for a wizard baby fuck yeah that's it that's that's the fucking Like we did with the Neanderthals
We need to breed each other out
Exactly
Even at playing field
If we're all magic I'm fine
If we're all muggers I'm fine
Just because I know you Jack
Alright so we have
We're into breeding
So now the majority of us are magic
But now we've got a bunch of squibs.
We keep doing it until...
Let him finish.
Jack, don't fuck this.
I'm on your side, Jack.
Like left-handed.
I'm on your side.
So what's that, 10% of the population?
Yeah, 10%.
Everyone looked at me.
We need your opinion.
As a left handed expert
Round it down as 10
There we go
So 10% of the population are non-magic
They can't have it no matter what we do with them
Jack hold my hand
You can do this
I don't want to exterminate them
But I am thinking about it
But my question I guess is this
Who's inventing our technology He's doing it. But I am thinking about it. But my question, I guess, is this. Yes.
Who's inventing our technology?
Like, I know wizards can't make, like, TVs.
Adam's squeezing my hand.
Wizards can't make TVs.
Because, like, magic, I think, interferes with electricity.
It does.
Squibs could.
Yes. So you're saying we take a disenfranchised and physically and potentially developmentally disabled part of our population and turn them into a slave workforce to make TVs?
I don't want to say forced labor.
But if we're all wizards and magic, then we have no need for TV because we can't watch it.
Then fuck them.
I'm not going to kill them, but the squibs can just be like this sad part of society we're all embarrassed by.
not going to kill them but the scribs can just be like this sad part of society we're all embarrassed by i think we keep encouraging interbreeding with scribs because then you get magic down the line
yeah eventually we'll all be magic and that's fine i just think we let it run its course and and and
you know love will win out foolish i thought you were about to say run its course and scribs will
go naturally i love the idea of
selling wizard cum as a business
venture but not as a forced
breeding out genocide
this is the stolen generation literally
but we all end up
magic
well I
guess Jack
I like that forced into breeding place where we all I backed off, but we're attributing.
That has been used before.
But it's like my mutant argument.
Everyone's like, Jackson, it's just like getting rid of the...
Oh, Melody's having a night.
Melody's making the noise of a single drip of water in a cave.
What?
She is too.
Because it's good to be magic.
You know what I mean?
But you can't watch TV.
You can't do anything with electronics.
I can eat a fucking candy that turns my head
into an eagle.
But that's great for you, right?
As someone who watches TV, whatever.
But you look at the
the wizards
they see what we do is
like to them what we do is magic they're like fuck you got an iphone what the fuck is this
arthur weasley sees what we do is mad a lot of them do because they're like objectively they
have the magic objectively at the end of the day they are better than us. They are a superior people living in the shadow.
Oh, whoop-de-doop-de-doo.
I've got technology.
Here's me, Zamit.
I have a DVD player.
Hello, I'm a wizard.
I can turn a rat into a million dollars.
They're better, and they hide in the shadows of the world,
controlling everything,
keeping us innocent muggos in the shadows of the world, controlling everything, keeping us innocent
muggos in the dark.
And then they wipe our mind when we find a little hint of it.
Just a tiny hint of this larger picture.
Picture this.
But they're protecting us.
Oh, hey, picture this.
All right, I'm your side, Shanks.
We go out in the woods.
The tables keep turning.
We go out in the woods, right?
I'm a rogue agent.
All right, me and Jack. Me and Jack. We're camping in the woods. We're camping in the woods. The tables keep turning. We go out in the woods, right? I'm a rogue agent. All right, me and Jack.
Me and Jack.
We're camping in the woods.
We're camping in the woods.
I already don't believe this story.
Out of the forest comes an amazing Squatch, right?
Oh, Squatch time.
Hey, what's going on?
And we're like, oh my God, it's Sasquatch.
Squatch.
And then we have an amazing adventure with this Sasquatch, right?
We're like, holy shit, Sasquatch is a whale.
He's our good friend.
He's our good buddy.
Then some fucking wizards come over yeah obliviate us and who knows what they've
done to henry exactly what's your side exactly i actually don't it's gotten confusing so you're
arguing against them but i don't know what your point is just catch me up on it so that i can help
you uh i uh those fucking no i i think i think in that example that is a bad example because
that doesn't even necessarily mean magic you just found a little sasquatch that can just be you know
you know two two two beautiful boys in the woods had a little frolic and we are and you got a little
story but the sports is magical terabithia shit you know yeah i mean they're sad but it is a
magical creature and as such Because they do exist
And part of the wizarding mandate
Is that us muggos can't
The Sasquatch specifically
Socialize or whatever
In the book it says that it's a very isolated
It doesn't like interactions with people
Well we got a friendly one
We just found a friendly wood ape
Well then maybe you'd be allowed to remember that
The first person who saw an elk
Probably thought it was magic
A Sasquatch is non-magical enough
That if enough people saw it
It would just be like
Yeah it's just a mammal
Yeah it's just like one of them
It's just an ape
It's just the kind of ape we got
And the woods are keeping this from us
No they're not
Like the Patterson Gimli
Like all this shit
It exists
They don't catch all of it
Imagine instead of a Sasquatch then it's a Grindylow
Or a Groblin
They just catch the stuff that's dangerous
But also we're just talking about the wizards
Keeping us away from magic
But actually there is a far larger
Sort of series of events
The wizards are seeing
A grander picture of the world
Than we are
Us muggles get like this tiny glimpse at this larger picture.
It's an analogy for the government.
But also, the wizards aren't even seeing a larger picture.
Anything that we do, like technological advancements,
all of that things that we do with science and shit like that,
they ignore.
So it's kind of like they're fucking us both real good.
Because imagine the human race with our innovation
and that kind of stuff.
If we had access to magic as a resource,
what we could potentially do with that,
likewise with the wizards.
But because they're so fucking backwards and dickheads,
they were probably like, no, no,
new technology is bad
because they're still stuck
weirdly in like
the 18th, 19th century.
Plus,
you're assuming good,
very good things of humanity.
No, I'm not.
I'm assuming things.
Be they good,
be they bad.
They're just things
that would be interesting.
But like,
imagine a mega nuke
powered by wizard magic.
A nuke with a dragon in it with three dragons
my point is that
I don't know where I'm standing
I'm good at convincing
because I'm loud
I think like I can somehow see
a kind of matrixian
this was actually a
cut subplot from the hit hit sbs2 series the wizards
of oz um whereby like uh non-magical people had sort of stolen that kind of kidnapped wizards and
were using them as like a battery farm kind of like humans in the matrix so it's like kind of
the joke was there was a type of wizard called spinning wizard it was a wizard that just couldn't
stop spinning and that was where their power came from and essentially because because all they did was spin they couldn't move vertically so you just
like would dig a wizard hole and trap them and then they'd just be stuck and it would just be
an endless power generator just a spinning wizard yeah that's a man and removing the spinning like
i feel like you could kind of like mine the uh the the mana or whatever the what's the word i'm
trying to think of the magical energy yeah yeah yeah yeah um I think that that would be a thing that would happen.
I kind of hope there's a subplot in an upcoming Fantastic Beasts thing.
I think that's kind of cool.
Well, like you could tap the power, like an obscurial or whatever it is.
Imagine tapping the power of that.
That's a lot of energy.
See, that goes against your Yeti argument.
That's like trapping an animal and making it work for you.
An obscurial isn't an animal.
Yeah, it is.
It's a parasite.
It's an animal. It's like, it's not an animal. Also, first off, parasites are animals. Not always. No, an obscurial is not a
creature. It is, it's a sentient creature.
But it's birthed from a wizard. But that's why Fuckface is keeping it.
It's separate from that, though. Separate from the person.
Yeah, but it comes from a person. It's not natural.
Well, it is natural it is it happens naturally nobody it's evil though humans come from people well it is a little
bit evil but that doesn't mean that you can capture it and make it like prisoners don't
run in giant hamster wheels however we use a dragon yeah and ethically treat it
people in prisons are always pretty jacked.
Have a kind of self-powering cancer wheel
that's optional in the cell and just fucking jog all day.
Why not? They want to get in shape anyway.
There you go.
Then they can shiv harder.
There's this larger narrative of existence.
That's what I'm arguing.
Wizards are not only keeping us from spells.
Wizards are also keeping us from magical artefacts, from from ghosts from the afterlife yeah wizards are keeping us from like like
potions which are not clearly magic yeah they could definitely fix cancer like they could
sort cancer out that's kind of one i'd be like what are you doing um in that when there's war
and injury so when there's injury and like in war where you lose a limb, they can regrow an arm.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
They can regrow bones.
They can really think about the good that they can do for the medical community.
They laugh in the face of danger.
Quidditch is a joy for them.
Exactly.
Plus, love.
Love is a tangible thing for wizards.
For us, when we talk about love, we either talk about it in this kind of sort of namby-pamby whatever,
or we're like, ah, it's neurons in your brain.'s i don't think we know how to harness love but it well regardless
they can't it's like a there's a they can harness infatuation they they have that weird rape potion
yeah love potions yeah quotation marks and like that's such a weird little stuff like it's like
this innocent little thing but it's like no you no, you would have like, you would have like,
date raped that guy.
But on a heavy level.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you make the victim the rapist.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's very wrong.
And it's just sold to whoever.
And sold to children.
At a joke shop.
What a funny joke.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Isn't there a,
why the fuck do you want potions?
Love potion is fucked up
Voldemort is fucked up
I forget, Voldemort can't feel love
Because his mum
He was conceived through love potion
Wait, really? Is that true?
Yeah, his mum love potioned his dad
That's why his dad was really bitter
Because his dad was like, shit, I didn't love her at all
Yeah, he was just trapped with a kid
Also, the potential for sexual abuse of polyjuice potion is pretty like wizards are a sex crime night exactly although i mean yes but maybe
they're in some like very very utopic post-sex society like a thousand sexual revelations but
that's not true because we still see like teenagers withers. I think Hermione makes a big shot of boners in the movies.
Yeah, yeah.
Excuse me?
It's mostly boners.
No, Hermione makes some reference to plowing crumb.
Yeah.
Yeah, she does.
When?
I forget what it is.
It's in the fourth book somewhere.
Well, obviously, it's the one with crumb.
I think it's like she's just like, I liked him only physically,
and then there's like a little giggle and we move on.
And a single droplet of cum drops out between her legs.
That's how it goes down.
She slips on it.
Ron's like...
JK Rowling at her desk is like,
yeah, that's subtle enough. Paragraph.
I like an argument with the editor.
No, it's very important.
The character was originally called Cum,
and they're like, you just got to add an R.
JK Rowling spells Cum with a K.
That's what I've learned from that.
This is subtle enough.
Paragraph two.
But yeah, you're right.
Think about the technological advances that we have
when we simply have a horse,
and we're like, well, we need crops,
and so we're going to put this thing on this horse,
and it's going to do,
and what we could have done in several weeks,
we could have done in an afternoon.
Imagine that, but with a dragon.
Yeah.
Or with any of the myriad of fucking-
Wizards are keeping us from Utopia.
Magical creatures.
Well, but what would that do to the workforce?
I mean, I believe
eventually robots will be doing our
jobs for us in our Jetson society.
But then, in the interim,
people aren't enjoying that. There'll be no farmers left
because dragons... There'll be dragon farmers.
But then we have this... That is actually
kind of true. It's like a...
If we have robots... It would have to be staggered.
Yeah, with robots, it's like a slow thing.
People will slowly upskill or change their skills. But if we introduce magic, there would have to be staggered. Yeah, with robots, it's like a slow thing. People will slowly upskill or change their skills.
But if we introduce magic, there's going to be, oh, a Great Depression.
Yeah.
Probably.
Well, it comes down to this idea of how does society and how do we work?
Because if we've got all these magical things taking the jobs of unskilled labor kind of stuff,
it's kind of then what is the point of existence?
Is our point of existence just to simply work and to earn money
or can we maybe break through those social constructs
and hit a utopia?
I say we don't because we're scum as humans.
Yeah, yeah, humanity is inherently evil.
Self-hating human beings.
Maybe I'm the only one who loves being human, I guess.
It would take us to a post-scarcity society
whereby we no longer need to toil to survive.
That's how you get Star Trek.
Exactly, that's how you get Star Trek
because that's what Star Trek is.
And also then it's like,
are you just so bored on Earth with nothing to do
that's just like, go.
But because of magic,
we wouldn't be bored.
We'd be like, let's turn into canaries.
Let's all of us see what it's like
to live like a dog for a year.
Oh, fuck yeah, that's sick.
Who needs a holodeck when
the world is...
The world's your holodeck. You're like,
you know what, today I'm going to turn my car
into a train and I'm just going to
drive down the road.
And if I hit anyone, I'll just regrow their bones.
Exactly. Let's just chop my limbs
off and then, oh, that's a bit much.
Oh, the depths.
We're gonna go. Also, time turners.
C and B torture, Jack.
Time turners exist,
which basically means that you can quick save life.
Yeah.
It's the best. I'm not cleaning my room, Mom. Fuck you.
Like, killer. Like, rewind ten minutes.
You're like, great, done.
Still just won't. Not gonna kill you, though. It, rewind 10 minutes. You're like, no, it just won't.
Still just won't.
Not going to kill you, though.
It's kind of like this time.
What do you mean this time?
Nothing.
Slowly just like drifts away.
I feel like this is the exact reason wizards are keeping magic from us.
It almost feels like that minority report
where you have to go to a little hub
and be like, I'm going to imagine killing my boss.
This is like, I'm going to kill my boss.
Rewind.
Time turn of magic.
And you're like, that's really good. Notice the time turn on his neck. You're like, I reckon he to imagine killing my boss. This is like, I'm going to kill my boss. Rewind. Time turner magic. And you're like, that's really good.
Notice a time turner in his neck. You're like,
I reckon he's killed me before. I reckon he's killed
me countless times. Several months after
Unification Day, there's like a wizard who's like, I'm sick
and fucking tired. That Jackson kid's coming
around again today, you know? You know he wants me to
chop his limbs off and then throw them back?
I just want to be a head
for a minute. Feed me my cock.
Feed me my dick
fried
scrambled poached
I don't care I want to try them all
I was imagining myself as like the person who unified them
and they're like ah yeah Jackson
imagine if Martin Luther King
or like one of those great leaders
is like yeah okay well he degenerated
really quick
he palpatined he palpatined.
He palpatined hard.
The sheevy bastard.
Like, Department of Mysteries are like, oh, God, you want a time turner?
There's a wait for those.
A several-year wait.
But then again, if you just take the time turner and move it forward, does that speed up the wait?
I feel like you're fucking with time, and in the book book they quite early on say that that's a bad idea but they don't say it's not doable so you could
yeah absolutely go ahead to be my guest i think if we unify it's just this great utopia where
everyone's having a blast i don't think so yeah i i think that it would be i don't know i i think
that we would kind of destroy ourselves with it we wouldn't know what to do I think it would be
the end of humanity
human culture would stagnate
we would be fucked
then why are wizards
why is it not happening
to wizards
hang on
because they always had it
it's a prime directive
what technology
are they using
they've stagnated already
yeah they're stagnated
they're stuck
they're stuck
in the early
like 1900
yeah
or is that just England?
Look at America. America
was doing alright.
If we look at
how they're sending owls, look at the way
they dress, look at their traditions.
They're doing a lot of that even in the Americas.
Robes are new though.
Robes is a new fashion style for
wizards. Potentially. No. What?
In America, none of the wizards are wearing robes.
Are they just doing that to blend in?
Yeah.
Because they spend a lot of time just on the street.
Actually, I guess the queen of the macabre.
Madam President.
MACUSA.
MACUSA.
Again, I think the wizards already have.
That's what I was thinking.
They already stagnate.
They'll probably end up breeding themselves out.
Well, good.
Because they just won't evolve
or they won't kind of
get with the times as it was.
Oh, does this mean
we don't need actually...
Do we actually not need
to worry about wizards?
Will they just kill themselves off?
Yeah.
Then you'll get maybe
the occasional one
that's born to...
No, yeah,
it was like,
oh, it's obscured.
But no, we won't
because they won't
repress themselves.
You'll be like,
oh, man, you're real good at magic tricks.
Good on you, mate.
Is there any example in the Harry Potter universe,
I'm just thinking of Phantom Menace again,
like there's a vergence of the Force that creates Anakin, supposedly.
Is there something like that in Harry Potter
where a wizard was born of two muggles?
Yeah, that does happen.
Hermione.
Yeah, muggle-born.
Oh, that's right.
No, I thought she was a half blood
no she's Muggleborn
no she's mud blood
she's a filthy mud blood
I want to see that movie
as well
that's a fun spin off
it's like a little
romcom
you know get like
Matthew McConaughey
10 years ago
and like Jennifer Garner
or whoever
and they have a baby
that's magic
and it's Hermione
magic baby
they slowly realise
that baby Hermione
is crazy
which luckily we named her something fanciful I know Hermione. Magic baby. They slowly realize that baby Hermione is crazy.
We're still like, luckily we named her something fanciful.
I know.
Didn't you call her like Stephanie?
Sue.
Yeah, Sue.
Hermione is not going to seem like such a strange name in like 10, 15 years.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true. There are a lot of kids named Hermione now.
Katniss and all the poor, poor kids.
Anyway, I just think that the wizards are just kind of being dicks,
I guess, at the end of the day.
I think so.
Keeping us out.
They're not giving us the opportunity to learn from our mistakes,
and that, quite frankly, rude.
And on that note, I've been Joel.
I've been Jackson.
I've been Adam.
I've been Shanks.
Wipe them out.
That Wizards of Oz thing you were talking about earlier sounds really nice.
Oh, yeah, it's real good.
It's real good.
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