Plumbing the Death Star - How Would You Get the Fox Across the River When You Also Have a Goose and a Bag of Beans?

Episode Date: January 26, 2025

It's one of the oldest riddles (or puzzles (apparently it's a puzzle, there's a lot of disbelief and arguments at this)) ever told! You are on one side of the river with a goose, a fox and a bag of be...ans and you have to get to the other side by a boat carrying one at a time. However, if you leave the fox with the goose that fox will straight up devour that goose and if you leave the goose with the beans that goose will straight up devour those beans. The fox and beans are chill tho. Now there is a solution (or two, that's why it's a puzzle and not a riddle and everyone is mad) but we here at Plumbing the Death Star think a) the solution is not in the spirit of the puzzle, b) it's not efficient and c) reckon we can do better. We go through a lot of broken goose necks to arrive at our answer, discuss at length the problems with of a pig heated house and try to work out an amicable solution with Erik the goose buyer. This riddle wasn't even hard, this was smart and we are in fact geniuses.Links to everything at https://linktr.ee/plumbingthedeathstar including our terrible merch, social media garbage and where to become a subscriber to Bad Brain Boys+ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How would you get the fox, the wheat, and the duck across the river? Yeah. Isn't it a rabbit and grain? Yeah. It's all the same shit. No? Well, it is a rabbit, it is a grain, and it is a fox. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:11 Rabbit, grain, and fox? Yeah. Yeah. Look, I'm now, now I don't know. Why, there's probably many variations. There probably is. No, but let's just find the famous one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Alright. Scorpion and a frog. It's a fox, a chicken, and a bag of corn. Oh. Now that changes things. Oh my God. It's also the fox, the goose and the bag of beans. Yeah, that also changes things.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's pick one. Okay. There's also the jealous husband problem. Three married couples must cross a river using a boat. Sounds like a breast one. Why does goose appear for disaster? You go the goose one.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Oh, God. What's happened? boat. Sounds like this recipe for disaster. You go the goose. Actually, yeah. The goose and bag of beans is the original. Yeah. Okay. We'll go goose bag of beans and a Fox. Hey everyone. And welcome to this week's episode of plumbing the death star. I'm Joe. I'm Jackson. And I'm also Joe. Plumbing the death star is a comedy pop culture podcast that asks the important questions. And you're going to get that today, especially both the pop culture and the important ones. Yeah, in equal measure.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Where, this week we're trying to answer the question, how would you get the fox across the river when you also have a goose and a bag of bees? So this is a classic riddle. One of the most classic riddles that there are. I believe it's a puzzle, not a riddle. It's a riddle. It's a riddle! I've never been more affronted. It's a riddle!
Starting point is 00:01:42 What's the difference? What do you mean? A riddle you say say a puzzle you do. A riddle is like a word. Because a riddle would be like what's long and thick and red all over. That's a question. What's the answer? My dick. It's red all over. Because I've been abusing that thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Jacking off like crazy. More than the recommended amount. Riddle me this Batman, you have a goose, a fox. Yeah. Riddle me this, riddle me this Batman. What's red and thick and long all over? I got it wrong. It's your dick!
Starting point is 00:02:25 It's your dick, Riddler! I'm taking it out! The bomb's in your dick! Riddler's got like a bat about to hit like a Robin. What, dude, what? I thought you were gonna say Riddler's got a bat about to hit his own penis. He figured me out.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Batman, are you finding the definition of a riddle and a puzzle? Yeah. It's not a riddle, baby. What the fuck? It's a puzzle. What's the definition? What's the definition? Okay, so a riddle.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Is it a puzzle if you go, say, a jigsaw puzzle? Yeah, but it's a word puzzle. It's a riddle. A word puzzle's not a riddle. I'm looking it up. Okay, look it up. You refused to tell me. A riddle just usually has one definitive answer
Starting point is 00:03:08 where a puzzle requires some work. This has one definitive answer. Yeah, but it requires work to get there. It's not just like, oh, I think it's this. I think this is a riddle. Okay, look it up. Either way, I reckon, look, a goose could swim, so why don't I just throw that in the river, let it go.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Wait, wait, wait. We gotta explain first. We gotta explain. We gotta take a step back. I reckon look a goose could swim so why don't I just throw that in the river? For those who don't know this classic Jackson you'll notice put his phone away because he didn't like the answer he got. No, I just I was too distracted to read it. So... Why? What you doing? So, okay. A podcast? I am on the side of a river. Yeah, you have a fox, you have a goose, and you have a bag of beans. Father... father...
Starting point is 00:03:54 I have a father goose, a mother fox, a baby bean. Father Joel's having these. Oh yeah, Simon and Bruce. Now, you're obviously... You're in a river. You have a boat. Now, obviously you want to get them all across the you, of course. I am Simon and Garret. Now, you're obviously, You're in a river. You have a boat. Now, obviously you wanna get them all across the river. Of course.
Starting point is 00:04:07 But if you take the fox across the river, you can only take one thing at a time. The boats, you gotta get a bigger boat. It's a tiny boat. If you take the fox across the river, you're on the other side of the river looking over as the goose eats the bean. Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:18 He's eating my beans! Son of a bitch goose. I'll kill you! When I get back there, I'm killing you. And the goose, empowered by the beans, flies away. Presumably. If you take the beans across the river, the fox eats the goose. You're on the other side with your big bag of beans.
Starting point is 00:04:34 You look over. I'll kill you, fox! You son of a bitch! Why are you taking a fox? That's crazy. Okay, but obviously, so then you want to take the goose. Okay, so I take the goose over, obviously. Because the fox isn't going to eat the beans.
Starting point is 00:04:42 No, fox hates beans. Oh, I figured out the problem. Solution! Where are you taking a fox? That's crazy. Okay, but obviously, so then you want to take- Okay, so take the goose over, obviously. Because the fox isn't going to eat the beans. No, fox hates beans. I figured out the problem. Solution, you take the fox over, but you got to go back and get the beans.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Leaving the fox and the goose to eat each other. Yeah, but also if I leave the fox over there with the beans, look, I know foxes. You'll eat those beans. They'll eat the beans. That fox will find they don't eat anything. They'll eat anything. Yeah, that's the crazy thing about the riddle. No foxes That's the crazy thing about the riddle it doesn't
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah, the puzzle is that the puzzle doesn't point out the fact that the fox will also eat the bean Yeah, maybe you Find like leave the fox of the goose there that goose will probably like bite the shit Just fight Will be provoked yeah That goose will probably like bite the shit out of that bone They'll just fight The goose will be provoked Yeah, yeah, exactly And obviously the intend- Goose will bite me? Yeah, yeah, if it's just you and a goose on a boat
Starting point is 00:05:32 What do you think is gonna happen? That was a good goose noise That was really solid So the intended solution- Can I do it again? Yeah, try No, worse, worse, worse I have to give it a go now. Yeah, you do goose noise
Starting point is 00:05:47 I think more like a honk like oh Yeah Yeah, that's pretty good. I see they hiss as well. Yeah If I saw that goes to go to the river That goose did that noise at me? That goose is in the river? That was the goose in the bag of beans throwing that bag in the river If I could tie some goddamn rock around that goose that would be a ground goose That was like the beginning of a horrible lascivious laugh The goose is making that noise as you sail away with the fox
Starting point is 00:06:24 He's gonna eat the beans. He's gonna figure you out. Well the intended solution is you take the beans... No, you take the goose across... You then come back... You grab the... The beans... You take the beans across...
Starting point is 00:06:40 You put the beans down... You take the fox... You take the goose... Take the goose, put the goose in the other side of the river you go back. Yeah now you take Hang on Yeah, then you take the fall then you take the Fox But you tend then you put the Fox over there you grab the goose take the goose I think you go take check the goose back you take the beans you then go across you put the beans there the fox like Take the goose take your goose beans and fix your riddle. Yes. I fixed your puzzle. Yeah, that's the intended solution
Starting point is 00:07:12 There's an easier solution surely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, that's like what that's three trips exactly We can do it in we do this quicker. Okay. Okay. Can I have a okay? I want to do I saw open bag of beans Okay, you have the bag of beans. Yeah, I open a bag of beans. Okay. You open the bag of beans, yeah. I throw a couple of beans across the river. The goose flies across, eats those beans. Okay. I grab the bag of beans, no, the fox. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yes. Yes. Yes. I go over, chuck the fox, oh no. Yeah. The fox is eating the, the fox is eating the goose. The goose is eating the loose beans. The fox is eating the goose.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Okay. You're left with two other beans. The fox is eating the goose. You're left with dry beans. I get a bit of rope. Yes, I got the beans looking up and seeing a massacre. I get a rope. I tie one bit around the boat. Another bit around the goose's neck. That's what I was going to do. Kill you, arrive at the shore, turn around, dead goose.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Oh, I heard it. Where behind the hell, How fast is this river? Wait, can a goose have a leash? Why not? Look up in your little machine A goose can have a leash Surely a goose can have a leash It wouldn't like it
Starting point is 00:08:15 Leashed goose It won't like it Punished goose? Things that might happen The goose might try to steer the boat Maybe we get capsized Those things might happen What the fuck boat are you in? How big is this goose?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Okay, so you can leash a goose, okay? But the thing is, every image I found, it's around the goose's chest, not neck. Oh, which means that, yes, that would make sense. So if I... Then I don't know if a goose can swim, if it's feathers are... Yeah, if it's... If it's leashed. If it's tied up.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Well, is it underneath the wings? Or is it kind of just around the mound? So it's underneath the wings?'s leashed. Tied up. Well, is it underneath the wings? Yeah, it's like kind of just around the middle. So it's underneath the wings, so it could still kind of. No, it seems like it's around, it's like over the top of the wings, so it can't fly away. Well yeah, because you probably don't want
Starting point is 00:08:52 the goose to fly away. I was gonna say, because if I put it on its neck, it starts flying. Oh! Splash. As a dry on goose. You're paddling your boat, and you're like, I don't wanna, you ever seen that video of the guy,
Starting point is 00:09:04 he like closes his car door, and the the windshield shatters and then he turns away because he doesn't want to accept that He shouted the windshield and he stands there staring away from it Then he has to turn back and look that's you with the goose. Yeah, crack splash The answer to this riddle or puzzle Is I feel like it's cheating like I feel a bit cheaty that you have to go like Oh, yeah, we got put one on one side and then I go back Yeah, I agree what about this do we need the boat what about this I pick up the goose John I pick up the Fox No, I pick up the goose. John. I pick up the Fox none. I pick up the beans
Starting point is 00:09:50 Walk across the river bed or I swim the hang on I put the goose under my shirt Under your shirt, so maybe it's like it's it's next poking out under my Swan yeah goose don't have a huge deck No one's gonna be good Or flamingo Yeah, flamingo got a big neck. Yeah, but legs, too Yeah, bag of it do you think depending on the I mean, I guess it depends on the current in the robot Yeah, but could I wait across I was imagining the fact that you can't just swim across that it's a pretty like a heavy current.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Okay. I go flying down the river. You're flying down the river. Yeah. At speed. It's the river's so strong that it knocks you into the air. Well, I was thinking, now that you're talking about flamingos got me thinking about stilts. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:41 What if we were to fashion some stilts on that goose? Let the goose walk across Okay now the goose not just fly but also if you leave the goose on one side of the river by itself Will it not just fly so one must assume the goose will not fly. It's a trained goose Well not trained enough because it won't not eat the beans Yeah, how about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? How about I didn't take the beans that goose is getting real pissed at me snap and hisses going Yeah, maybe because you can't get those delicious beans. I left by themselves Hanging itself in the tree
Starting point is 00:11:31 You're on the other side of the bank, you hear snap You're once again staring away and you're like I know when I turn around I'm about to see a hanged goose I'm gonna turn it back, I think the goose is alive Can a goose get angry enough that it hangs itself? Animals hang themselves all the time. I think if you put a rope around a goose's neck, you're asking for trouble.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Dogs have hung themselves in blinds and shit. Probably. What about if the babies do that? Yeah, it's why you have like little safety things and why like you get those like the drawers, the drawers with like things in there. You gotta like put it to the wall, safety reasons. Lucky the baby doesn't work for the studio
Starting point is 00:12:06 because there's the baby hanging ones. Those blinds are not baby safe. They're not baby friendly. Well, okay. Jackson might also actually hang himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rest in peace. Okay, what about this?
Starting point is 00:12:18 Okay. We, okay, this is smart. Yeah. Put the beans in the boat. Done. Push the boat off. and while you've done that You push the boat off and then you hear HURK
Starting point is 00:12:30 So you push the boat off And you turn back around your goose is dead and you turn back around and your boat is halfway down the river going the wrong way And I love how the fox I can't sell Cause no one wants a fox Yeah, so you push the boat down like presumably the heavy tyrant has like pushed the boat further down. Well, I was just thinking if I stay on the shore, I could stop the goose and fox fighting.
Starting point is 00:12:56 What about this? I leave, no. Okay. So if you leave, right. I have an idea. The only winning move is that. You cross the rope. I have that rope that keep talking about yeah I put like I want one bit of rope on one side yeah I just take it in okay now if I leave on the boat with just myself on the rope what is happening the goose is gonna eat the beans yeah but then the Fox will try and eat the goose distracting it from the
Starting point is 00:13:24 beans they'll start fighting the maybe the goose now wants to eat the beans, but then the fox will try and eat the goose, distracting it from the beans, they'll start fighting. Maybe the goose now wants to eat the beans, it's more defensive. They are fighting, that gives me enough time to go over there, stake in that extra bit of rope that I can then go across, and now I've made some like a rope system. Yeah, and now all I need is some sort of pulley and hook to kind of... You come back... And that's easier than three trips across the river? You come back to a bit goose and a spilled beans. Damaged fox, damaged goose, beans partially missing. Beans akimbo. Beans akimbo!
Starting point is 00:13:58 Well, I was just thinking if there... Hang on, let's explore the only winning move is not to play. I look at this and I say this is an impossible puzzle Thank you I get across the river and I arrived at the village and they say Jackson Where's the beans goose and Fox and I say I don't know. Okay Don't worry about this. How about this? How about this? You're right. Who wants a Fox? Nobody wants a Fox. No one's everywhere. Yeah, exactly. So what are the groups? Christmas goose Christmas goose goose lay egg
Starting point is 00:14:25 Fla-grah Many things for goose yeah, I want to pick up what does the focus give you nothing no you can skin It does the skin of Fox. Oh yeah, Fox hide. I know why well in that case Boys skin the fucks man. Why do you need the fuck skin the Fox have Fox hide? Where the Fox hide grab a handful of beans Shove off to the village. Why'd you leave most of the beans behind? What's the can't leave the Fox and I mean the goose in the oh, you're right Handful of beans they say where's the rest of the beans? Oh wait skin the Fox
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, where the Fox? Mm-hmm grab the the beans put beans in the boat sure fun over Yeah, but beans on the side go back grab the goose yeah we're the Fox mm-hmm grab the the beans beans in the boat sure fun over yeah but beans on the side go back grab the goose off we go you often bag of beans bag of goose skin for yeah on my neck yeah I rock up the village what up fuckers yeah beans in a goose does this change things the original version of this that I saw was Fox goose beans yeah like this is the earliest version that's what it's named after. But it turns out the earliest version is actually wolf, goat, cabbage. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:29 What do I want a wolf for? Why would you want a wolf for? To protect you. Maybe if it's like a wolf, like a dog. Yeah. Cause then you need the dog, like it's your companion. Or like a companion. Yeah, like it'll protect you.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then you shouldn't be, if you leave a dog behind with a sheep, if the dog eats the sheep, it's a bad dog. It's poorly trained. Well then the wolf again. Yeah, but then you shouldn't be if you leave a dog behind with a sheep that if the dog eats the sheep is a bad dog Yeah, it's poorly trained. Well, then the wolf again. Yeah. Well, yeah But if you're like a fox because it was like a thing was that where it was like we need Fox It was like one of those foxes are a pest Kill them skin them you get money for the hide. Okay, that's what I assumed the fox is well
Starting point is 00:16:01 I was gonna you can't look a fox. No Fox meat has got to be I assume the Fox is well, it's gonna eat cotton look a fox. No Fox meat has got to be Stringy, I mean, it's like rat meat. I imagine yeah. Yeah, we don't you don't want to eat the like you know the meat of a carnival Yeah, exactly. So what uses this is Fox apart from its hide. Yeah, it must be what I do I get a river rock. Yeah, right that Fox kill the Fox. Does this change anything? All right, so we got wolf wolf, sheep, cabbage. Okay. Fox, chicken and grain. Fox, goose and corn. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Fox, goose and beans. Panther, pig and porridge. Okay. Are any of those, do they make any sense? I don't think I could, so if I'm with a fox in a boat, I'm safe. If I'm in a boat with a panther, yeah. There. What about the wolf to be honest?
Starting point is 00:16:46 What about this? Hang on. Yeah. Hang on. Go on. I think maybe I figured it out. Step one. Yeah. Tip out the beans. Okay. Where? On the ground.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Okay. Step two, put the fox in the bag. Okay. Okay. Now, loose beans into the boat. Uh-huh. Dump the loose beans on the other side of the river Fox can't attack the goose It's in a bag. Yeah come back Get the goose Drop it on the other side of the river. That's where the beans are
Starting point is 00:17:17 Get the Fox in the bag other side of the river. Yeah, come back get the goose Yeah, but I mean that's great You are gonna lose our beans and then you're gonna have to like, while you're scooping up those beans, put back in the bag, you're gonna get distracted. That goose is gonna like probably nibble at some of them loose beans.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And also that fox may be, while you're also distracted, will nibble at the goose. What about that? I like your idea of eliminating some things. Where'd your shoes go? I took them off before I even got in here. Why? It's nice to be shoeless.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Oh wait, you're also not wearing shoes. Yeah, dude. Nevermind. My piggies are out. There was a reason I took off my shoes. What was it? There's a reason? Are you like a shit foot? You eating your exercises?
Starting point is 00:17:57 No, I haven't. Yeah, why would you? Why would you do anything that could potentially fix your shit foot if you could instead just complain about how expensive orthopedics? I thought I figured it out. The orthotics have helped, but I haven't done the exercises.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I thought it was like, oh yeah, he's stretching out his foot. Were you stretching out your foot? No. Like were you doing another exercise? No. Did one of your shoes just fall off and you're like, oh well. Was the orthotic annoying you? No, the orthotic's really comfortable.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Was it like, oh, I need to not wear this for an hour? I think I needed to try on some pants. You did put on pants before. I tried on pants. Ah. There it is. Okay. Figured it out.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And I did try and do it with shoes on first. And then I was like, this isn't working. Okay, so I think, yeah. Go back to, I think you're right, eliminating maybe one of these problems. So why don't we get a funnel? Okay. And then I put all those beans in that goose
Starting point is 00:18:45 Because do we want beans or do we want foie gras? Okay now I've got a foie gras goose Fatten up the goose. Fatten up that goose. So let the goose let him eat beans. Not even letting him eat beans. Force him to eat beans. Force him to eat beans. Okay, goose force-fed bean. He's having a great time being like, oh I ate too much bean Uh-huh. I then put the fox into the boat. Mm-hmm. We go over the side chuck there Yeah, grab the fattened goose up. Oh goose is heavy What? You've given me an idea. Now, I know we were talking shit about fox meat. Yeah. What about a Tadokan situation? Yeah, what if we carry them all over at the same time inside each other?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Was that actually where you were going with it? Yeah! Wow, I was really locked in with that Tadokan comment Yeah, well, you know we put- So beans in the goose in the fox We bring them over, cook them together The issue Tadokan
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Starting point is 00:19:56 All foo? Fogoo... Fogoo bean. Foo... I love a foo. Just food. Food. Food. I love food. I present to you food. Fox, goose, bean. Ah.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Yum. Okay. Well, now, going across in a boat, the issue was, was it a space situation or was it a weight situation? I think it was the, it just keeps saying that I can find the exact weight. Cause if it's a weight situation, we're fucked. I think it's weight. Then we're fucked.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah, then we're fucked. But if it's a space situation show it's just I think it's white then we're fucked Yeah, then we're fucked then we're for the space situation before yeah, that's true. Yeah, cuz then yeah, whatever can be I just keep coming back this idea who cares about the Fox Yeah, or the wolf or the pan in every situation It's an animal that I don't I don't I can't like benefit of keepers like a goose Well a goose will lay an egg. Yeah, or a golden egg Mmm, or I can you know fatten that up and eat it for a delicious Christmas goose. Yes, yeah. You know what I mean? So there's like, there's a lot of multiple uses there for a goose.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Same with a chicken. Yeah. And beans likewise. Beans, I can like, you know, you plant those beans. You eat them, you make a bean feast. So there's amazing, you know, I can do that. Same with like a chicken, same thing as a goat. Goat meat or again, I could have like, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:05 goat milk, right? But for a panther, same with a pig, right? Well, I guess pig, wait, what do you use pig for? Pork? And then you don't milk a pig. No, yeah. You shouldn't milk a pig. What's wrong with pig milk?
Starting point is 00:21:16 I remember looking into this, you don't, don't. It's oily, I think. Yeah. Yuck. I remember looking into this. There is somewhere where I think you can buy pig cheese. That is awesome. We were looking up camel milk the other day. I keep getting that's algorithms. My algorithms fucked because I looked up camel milk once.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I'm getting camel milk ads at the end of Duolingo session. Like it's that it is infested my ad algorithm. Every time I'm scrolling Instagram or TikTok, it'll be be like hey, do you want some thick camel milk? In Sydney this is useful information for you Sydney side is you get it delivered to your house You can be drinking camel milk tomorrow Wow and tomorrow is just the day away. Yeah, I'm thinking dude Yes, I can think of Let's go back to what pigs are used for yeah pork Lord nice pig skin is used for high quality leather okay pig also produces suede
Starting point is 00:22:11 Oh suede is made of pig okay Insulin and then a gelatin oh yeah glue Paintbrushes okay fertilizer wow pigs are multi-purpose. Insulation, insulin and insulation. Insulate your house with pig. And insulate your blood sugar with insulin. If you had a house, let's explore this, let's go on. Pig heated house.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Okay, talk me through it. So you build a traditional house. Okay, talk me through it. So you build a traditional house. Okay, but the walls are, they have a space, a gap between them. And in there you build a sty. Ah yeah. Okay. So there's your wall.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Okay, I'm gonna stop you there. You've had a pig, how hot is a pig? It gets pretty hot. And let's not forget- Does it get hot when it's cold? Let's not forget that- Does it get hot when it's cold or does it get hot when it's hot? It's got pig body heat and I'd have multiple pigs in the walls.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Does it get hot when it's cold or does it get hot when it's hot? When it's cold it needs to warm up. Yeah. Yeah. And it's warming up by other pigs in the walls. Yeah, the other pigs they would huddle together and you just have to find in the wall where they're doing that and warm yourself amongst the pig pile without the Without the distasteful and you know the nastiness of having to be amongst pigs plus the pigs would be shitting
Starting point is 00:23:34 Methane would be filling. Oh, yes Time to turn on the stove Not just that you're also probably poisoning the pigs With methane. Oh killing the pigs making your house stink. Yeah, getting a terrible ambiance Like the same thing and you probably like $20 heater from came up. Yes, but also like you wouldn't have to build like the walls that much to do wider But if you say got like say, I don't know 10,000 rats. Oh, yeah, exactly But the problem with the rats is they'll try and get into the house
Starting point is 00:24:09 The pigs don't know that there's a house there you think it will you think of all the pigs the rats I'm saying this the rats know the rats are cleverer This this is famously the smartest Clever. There's this sly. Pigs are famously the smartest animal. Rats are more sly than a pig. A pig smells meat cooking dinner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Gosh, I'd love to eat that, but I don't know where it is. The rats determined enough to find it. What are you talking about? A pig will chew through or kick the wall, the dry wall. Yeah. The famously like what I guess, is it a heavy thing? Is it hard to punch through a dry wall? No no it's easy as hell you got a pig in your kitchen but back in the day yeah during human prehistory yes prehistory mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:24:52 uh-huh we lived in houses yeah with our pigs yes and part of that was because they hated the house yeah so yeah but was the house in the house in the house yeah the house you're living in fucking also like two by two. Yeah, I mean, it was pretty big. You had one side of the house and the pigs and the goats had the other. Yeah. Pigs and goats.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. And they warmed the house. Yeah. Partially. Could it just be like any other livestock or animal? I guess living with another human being. Yeah, that's also true. But there's an indigenous saying, I think it translates to Yeah, that's also true. But there's an indigenous saying, I think,
Starting point is 00:25:25 it translates to like, oh, it's a two dog night. Because it's so cold. What exactly? You're huddling with the dog, right? So again, it's just kind of like, yes, in prehistory, when you have like other animals with you, so like a hunting animal or like, hey. No, it's a full livestock, dude.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Or livestock. Yeah. Are you listening? No, yes. Also Jackson You just stared at me but like You were staring through me Staring through you
Starting point is 00:25:52 Which didn't really make sense in response to what you said Yeah, yeah, so any animal So your hunting animal or your livestock Pigs in the world Yes Also Jackson So Including pigs. So like the animals that are there because they just, they are there anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And so you're good. He's doing it again. He's just pretending to listen. He's doing it again. The animals are there anyway. So the animals are there anyway because they are, yes, they are providing warmth because they have like either like fur or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And just by being there, their presence gets warmer. So it doesn't mean nothing. it just feels like you're not, whatever animal that is there is going to add to the warmth of the house. And I guess we're building a kind of like lower ceilings, right? So then like, you know, it's got less to kind of heat up.
Starting point is 00:26:38 So yeah, so any animal would do. You could do this without no six cats. Yeah, but also when was the last time you put your hand up to a wall and you could feel the warmth of someone touching the other side of the wall? Never. That's how walls work. I guess with insulation, you want to trap things in. The pig?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Just making your walls sweaty. Yeah, but only on the inside. It'll just make your house smell and the noise is unpleasant. You could still touch the pig wall and it'll just feel cool. I feel like, again, if it's plasterboard, it would feel warm. Yeah, it's a whole fucking big on the other side Yeah, I don't feel like the heat against it. The pigs are farting and shitting. Yeah Filling up the space with a heat. So if you yeah, but I don't think that that's it I don't think that what will soak through the plaster it might soak through but also again like you make this now will get
Starting point is 00:27:21 through making more space to eat in the inside of that like the space between your outside wall and your inside wall Because like where the pigs going because the pigs need to go outside presumably so I don't let them Got some dead pigs in the wall. I guess your house just stinks. Yeah Rotting yeah, I bought a $15 foot heater from Kmart. I'm happy. I just don't think, yeah. It seems so clever when I pitched it. Why? What part was clever? It just seems like I'd solved an age-old problem.
Starting point is 00:27:54 What problem? I looked to the past to find a solution for the future. You think that if having animals... I felt like an innovator in that moment. Try with rats. You can do that at your house now. I've lived with rats in the wolf. There's not enough rats. Yeah Well, I guess sir, what you do about the rats in the walls Did you leave them there in hope of more rats for more warm? These are the rats my dad killed that end up dying in the roof. But down when we went there, there were no bones
Starting point is 00:28:22 Pretty mysterious We're gonna check on those dead rats. No bones. How long had it been? Like maybe six months to a year. Bones don't lot. They should still be there. Well yeah, why? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Could have taken them out. Mostly most rats, they tend to like when they get poisoned, they will like go outside. Well, it's just cause it's smelt like dead rats in the room. Do you think that maybe a rat died in your actual room and not in the roof? I don't know, no, cause they cleaned out that room when they did all the renovations. They didn't find any dead rats.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Some got it. And then there were no bones. Feels like I'm implying something. Well, I know that when you went into the roof, you and your dad would have been excited. You'd be like, oh, there's gonna be heaps of rat bones up there. Well, yeah. It was kind of something we were looking forward to seeing,
Starting point is 00:29:10 like the rat graveyard. Yeah, and then you stuck your head up there and you're like, no bones. No bones. You'd have been disappointed, but then also been like, what happened? Because it's a kind of a mystery. Well, because I guess the rat is left to the element
Starting point is 00:29:20 in a weird way of other bugs and other rats. It would have been eaten, the flesh is gone. The flesh, well, that's what we were thinking. It's not being mummified. You're expecting just a whole bunch of like other bugs and other rats would have been eaten, the flesh is gone. The flesh, well that's what we were thinking. It's not being mummified. You're expecting just a whole bunch of rat skeletons. Yeah, like tons, because what happened is I had heaps of rats in the roof. How many rats did you have?
Starting point is 00:29:34 Heaps, dude. Was your room warm? That was always a good call. Yeah! They were in the roof, not the walls. They were in the roof, not the walls! Is that also because there was big holes in the walls from where the rats would come in and then go into the roof? Probably also, if they were in the roof, they walls. They were in the roof not the walls! Is that also because there was big holes in the walls from where the rats would come in and go into the roof?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah, probably also if they were in the roof, they were at the walls, dude. But I, yeah. How'd you get so many rats in your roof? We lived in the countryside. There's a lot of rats out there. You shouldn't have insulated with corn. You shouldn't have that many rats still.
Starting point is 00:29:58 But anyway, there were lots of, yeah. Farmhouses aren't just like full of rats. Yeah, it's like, I don't know, Plague Times France? We just have a lot of rats, I don't know what to tell you. Did you do anything about the rats? Well, that's the story. Okay, so at what point did you do something about the rats? When I said, dad, there's rats in the roof
Starting point is 00:30:15 and they're driving me crazy. But how long did you wait before that? I don't know, probably a bit. It wasn't straight away. Because it had to become a problem. A couple months and anyway Then I said dad can you deal with the rest he poisoned them all yeah, but the rats they fled home to die Yeah, and then the roof is not when you poison the rats the whole thing is they go outside to die
Starting point is 00:30:36 Then why did my room smell like that? Because one died in your room. It smelled like more than one or two You live in hell Your room was always full of bugs and you had a laptop and like people that haven't listened to pulling the death star from the start Might know this yeah, but Jackson famously used to have a laptop like six or seven years ago Yeah, the barely worked because it was just full of moths Yeah, because what happened is and this again, this is all plumbing, that's all all, but it's good to bring it back up 2025,
Starting point is 00:31:07 you know, new beginnings. The laptop, because I would have it on at night when no other lights. So the moths would come to the laptop but I wouldn't always see them. And they would go in that little space. Because you would have, even though you knew it was a problem,
Starting point is 00:31:18 you were like, but I really like having my window open. Yeah, because it got hot as well as cold. So then I would- Fly screen. It didn't have it. So then- It's like an easy solution. So then the moths would get to the space under the screen, but at the top of the keyboard.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And at night I would just close my laptop. Cause why would you check? But that would smoosh the moths into the- Now here's the question. I think I might've, maybe I'll fix this riddle. Question, your laptop, it'd have a smell to it. Not really. The room had a question. I think I might have maybe I'll fix this riddle. Yeah. Question, your laptop. He'd have a smell to it. Not really. Alright.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Okay. The room had a smell. The room had a smell. So what, imagine this. I'm gonna paint you a picture. You got a lot of bugs in your room. Yeah. Probably why you got a lot of rats in your room. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Actually that's short. Rats have been like, this big giant like moth. It's a smog as well. It's delicious, it's a delicious moth. I'm gonna drag all these dead moths to alive, all these big bugs up into the crawlspace Yeah, and then we're gonna have we're gonna hold this delicious pile of bug And we're just gonna like live like king king and queen rat. Yeah, yeah For the longest time we're gonna have a dynasty of delicious bug meat
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah, it's incredible and then you poison those rats. They go off to die They have all this rotting bug meat in your roof. Could be, could be that it was dead bugs and not dead rats. That's why there's no skeletons. There was a stink in my bedroom at my parents' holiday house too, but that turned out to be sugar gliders. That was what, sorry?
Starting point is 00:32:37 There was a stink in my bedroom at my parents' holiday house, but that turned out to just be sugar gliders that were just pissing in the roof. Well, were the rats pissing and shitting in the roof. Well, where were the rats? Was that the smell? Yeah, there was no pissing shit. There was no there's nothing up there was just just nothing playing but smell Upstairs like you stuck your punk dude. So when you went up it stunk worse than in your room the same Well, then it's not from up there. Where's it from? The walls maybe?
Starting point is 00:33:06 You. You? I don't know. If that's where it was, you would have put your head up there and it would have been overwhelming. That's why it's such a mystery. No, there's no mystery there. That's why.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Well the mystery is where's this smell coming from? Yeah, yeah. Where are the rat bones? Well, maybe there's like a corner in your room that you didn't look at full of dead rat. I don't know. There was a time- Could be underneath your head, like underneath the room,
Starting point is 00:33:26 not the roof, but underneath the floor. No, cause they did all these renovations before they sold the house and there was nothing. They even went underneath. There was that time where a rat, cause there was so many, curled up on my neck. Why did you let your room get so full of rats?
Starting point is 00:33:39 Curled up on his neck. Yeah, I woke up with one curled up on my neck and I freaked out and flung it at a wall. I let's find it the next day. So let's presume it survived It's also awesome Yeah, but also like if that happens to you, which would be a terrible Yeah, would you immediately be able to fall back asleep? No Talking about was the rat and someone f**ked me across the room.
Starting point is 00:34:10 No, it'd be hard to go back to sleep after that. No, I'd be f**ked up. Either way, I'd have a wake... You think the rat's gonna come back? You had a rat on you! Shower! Maybe this thing did come from you. Find out where the rat went because it might come back to you.
Starting point is 00:34:26 It found you the first time. Yeah, but the consequences of it sleeping on my neck were pretty dire. Do you think a rat's smart enough to know that that's what happened? It didn't come back. Probably dead. Dead in the corner of your room. You just, so you had a rat on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And then you flung it across the room. And then you went back to sleep. Then you rolled over and were like, oh yeah. And into the same bed that probably, that presumably had that rat crawl in. It was like 4am or something, I was tired. Do you believe this shit? Yeah, I can believe this shit. Yeah, these are old stories.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I can't say news to you. I know, I know, I just, I guess. It's still upsetting. With time gone on, it's still sad because you still defend your actions. Yeah. You don't say anything wrong with that? Oh like when I'm gonna wake up and be like oh my god Where's the rat? Yeah, yeah, it's a rat. I didn't do that and I was fine. I Just went you know what hey, that's life, baby You're not meant to be sleeping in a suit. It's not fucking all of a twist
Starting point is 00:35:24 Yeah, you can't ask for some more Jack. It's fine. It was fine. You deserve to live in a- UGH Most people deserve to live in a room that's not full of rats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but also I do feel like it is your problem uh fault Because I feel like that for you to have raised the rat along Yeah, like how many rats you reckon you'd seen before that happened? I didn't see I just heard them Like Estimate of how many rights I don't know 30 something like that. That's so many fucking right?
Starting point is 00:35:55 I don't know. I'm just asked to be based on sound and scurrying. I we okay. We heard like a scurrying Yes one time and I was like, I hope that's a possum. And then called it like, they're the same day. The same day, Jackson. Well, you were like, rats don't breed, so this should be fine. Oh, it's getting worse. Could be a possum. I mean, like what?
Starting point is 00:36:16 Other than that one that slept on me, they didn't, you know. You know, other than the one that slept on me. Yeah. Other than the one that slept on me. Honestly, I feel sorry for that rat. I feel sorry for, because he was so comfortable on my neck and warm, it was a really cold night. And then he-
Starting point is 00:36:31 He wouldn't have been warm because you sleep with the window open, you would have had a cold head. But my body heat, like my pig plan, dude. So he was loving the body heat. Yeah, for that rat, it was like a one Jackson night. Yeah, exactly. And then it was a rude awakening.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Imagine, it's like you finding a comfortable warm bed You know in a cold night you get in it and then it was in grommet style Flies you across the room. That's what happened for that rat. Yeah If you find rats in your room listeners do something about it because they carry a lot of germs A lot of like and they stink when they die. Some plagues were started, maybe by some rats, I don't know. They breed really quickly.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah, dude, yeah. Yeah. He's doing it again, see? Well, he doesn't care. Yeah, whatever. Lives in a different house now. Yeah. A rat's a rat, who cares?
Starting point is 00:37:19 I got no rat problems now. That's good. Bees sometimes, but. Are you allergic to bees? No, dad is but I'm okay. I just sometimes the backyard gets full of bees for like a day and then they go I don't know. Um yeah. Anyway going back to the Fox problem. Yeah. I just I cannot really see why you need the Fox. Yeah. I think the Fox there is a purflous unless it is you're like, you know, it's a beloved fox that is a companion. I'm either being like, get out of here, fox.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Well, okay, well what if you change it to dog? Yeah, let's say it's a dog. It's a poorly trained dog. Okay, okay, okay. Dog, goose, beans. Yeah. Or dog, goose, pasta, whatever you want. Dog, goose, spaghetti. Yeah. Dog, eagle, spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:38:03 The eagle will eat the spaghetti Goose is the only one I'm happy with that's the only one I wouldn't change yeah yeah yeah I like that idea cause like ah yeah like yeah Goose will eat the spaghetti and the dog is gonna eat the spaghetti well the dog will eat the spaghetti dude you gotta protect the spaghetti that's number one
Starting point is 00:38:20 what about dog cat rat alright if you leave the cat behind it'll eat the rat. If you leave, yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. It still works. It still works. But yeah, I think that, yeah, if you look at the fox
Starting point is 00:38:31 as a dog, you don't want to abandon your dog. Yeah. And you can only take now, oh no, that's the choking out the swan again. Well, a dog can swim. That's true. So I put... The rope? Oh god. I'm not looking back.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Put the rope around the dog's collar. Oh dogs? Try not to choke them. And they have stronger necks than geese. Yeah. They definitely have stronger necks than geese. They do accidentally hang themselves over in Elton. My fear though, if it's a very strong current, and I put like say, you know, I'm say holding the goose
Starting point is 00:39:06 and I get into the boat. And I've already got like the rope around the boat with the dog there paddling away and we start going over. The current's gonna be so hard that the dog is gonna like give up. Then there's a lot of weight now which is gonna then drag us further down and also capture us.
Starting point is 00:39:21 You're killed on the rocks. The dog is going to freak out and try and get into the boat. Yeah. And therefore capsizing as well. What about this? Okay. Assuming it's not a weight issue on the boat.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah. Make the dog eat the beans. Yeah. Or the spaghetti. Yes. Get him to the other side. Make him throw up the spaghetti. Go back, get the goose.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Well, okay. Let's move on. Why don't I eat the spaghetti? Eat the spaghetti. Problem solved. How about this? How about, well, Ashain thinks it's your dog, the goose you gotta sell in town to pay your wages,
Starting point is 00:39:54 and the spaghetti is the dinner for you and your wife you haven't eaten today. If you eat it, then your wife starves. And even if I go over you, if I go over and the goose eats spaghetti, it will only eat half the spaghetti. Yeah. And then you got a dilemma.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Do I eat that spaghetti or does my wife eat the spaghetti? Yeah, exactly. I knew you added dilemma to this whole. What about this? Okay. I get on the blower to the guy. With other steaks. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I get on the blower to the guy I'm gonna sell the goose to. Oh yeah. I've killed the goose. Don't expect me in market. Let me tell you, what if blow to the guy I'm gonna sell the goose to. Oh, yeah. I've killed the goose Don't expect me in market What if you be the guy I'm selling the goose to? Hello. Oh, hi. This is Jackson. We're organizing me. I'm gonna sell you the goose later today. Hello. This is Eric with a K Eric's with a K. You're gonna have to come back. Sorry. Not Eric's It's Eric with a K not Eric with a KS. It's Eric with a K, not Eric with a KS.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Okay. My- hey, my bad. Hi, Eric with a K. Yeah. You can just say Eric. Okay. But it is with a K. Alright, I'll keep that in mind. Hi, Eric.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yes, hello. You're gonna have to come to me. Where are you? Here's the dilemma I'm facing. Yeah? I'm in a river, okay? And I got a goose with me, but I'm also- Well? I'm in a river, okay? And I got a goose with me but I'm also- Well I'm paying you to deliver the goose. I know you've got the goose.
Starting point is 00:41:10 If you want the goose you're gonna have to come to me. Well if you want to get paid you've gotta bring the goose to me. It's not happening. What do you mean it's not happening? I got the goose, the spaghetti and my dog. Okay. I don't know what- okay, yes? Yes, Yes your accents
Starting point is 00:41:32 If I bring the goose across the river, yes, well that's fine Across the river the goose eats the spaghetti Yes, if I bring the spaghetti across the river the dog eats the goose. Yes. Yeah, you see my dilemma here Well, my dilemma is that I would like that goose and I don't have the goose. I'll give it to you half price In what condition if you come to me the goose is fine. You just have to come to me Christ sake Eric with a K. Okay. That's a pretty good deal like half price Come to the other side of the river and wait for you to cross the room. No you come more Eric with I don't Get one. Oh I'm not going to spend more money to buy a boat. You can rent it, I'll reimburse you for the boat. You're going to give me the goose at half price and you're going to rent me a boat.
Starting point is 00:42:16 My wife. Eric with a K, my wife is hungry. Oh yes that's why I'd like to pay you for the goose. Okay, well then fucking Eric. What did you say? Come to me on the other side of the river. I don't have a boat. You're killing me. You're killing me. I want to kill the goose.
Starting point is 00:42:36 You're killing me, Eric. Hey, look, Eric paid you for a service, goose man, so hey, you need to- I paid you upfront. I'm adding another wrinkle to your plan. You've already received the money. If you hadn't, then this wouldn't be stressful, but I've waited to flee the town Let the dog eat the goose live off the lamb I still think the best move is to grab the goose throw it in the river. Yeah, see what happens see what happens Yeah, either it's gonna like you to get pissed off and come back to be a son
Starting point is 00:43:05 That's good. Eric really can't just use a splash What's up the goose? You know the goose in the river? Yeah, well I should have come to see me. Yeah Oh, it flies off and hopefully doesn't just Goose getting further away Heading down the river toward the rapids dude. It is not gonna survive He's heading down the river toward the rapids dude. It is not gonna survive There we just never see it yeah, I could like say go That's your fucking goose bitch, okay for fuck's sake
Starting point is 00:43:45 Why can't I hang up on you? Click, click, click, click, click! You're not getting a refund either. I'm taking it. The cold still hasn't been disconnected! Click, click, click, click, click, click! Unplug the phone. Unplug it for what? What, the tree? Because if you throw the goose, it lands in the phone. Unplug it from what? What, the tree? Because if you throw the goose, it lands in the river. The goose is going to do one of like maybe several things.
Starting point is 00:44:10 One, it's either going to swim across to the side and you're like done. Awesome, sweet. You swim down the river? Or it swims down the river a bit and now it's like over there and then it's like, okay, now it's got a bit of time to waddle over to where I am, which gives you enough time to put the fox over there and the bee going. Because again, it all comes down to where I am which gives you enough time. Okay, Fox over there Yeah, yeah, right because again it all comes down. You gotta be quick Yeah, so I throw the throw the goose in river best-case scenario It starts drifting listing all the other side, but then it goes a bit further down like sick
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yeah, I then get in the bar as I'm do that's happening. I got in the boat with my beans Yeah, then make a beeline over there. Yeah, plop the beans down there. Maybe high up in a tree or something Yeah, like a bear with, you know, food, whatever, so it's kind of get it, right? And you alert the goose, who is still in the river to the beans, then you just need to quickly jump across, get the fox and get back.
Starting point is 00:44:54 That's what I'm thinking. But the goose is attracted to the beans. And then as a goose is about to sup on some delicious beans, I grab it by the neck and be like, no bad goose. He hisses at me like some sort of demon bird. And I'm like, oh Christ. And then we go back to town.
Starting point is 00:45:09 What about, does it matter if beans get wet? I mean, wet beans, what's the harm? Okay, if it's a, wait, is a river connected to the sea or is a lake? Oh, well that's up to us. Yeah, also what way is it? Cause we're crossing a river. Is a river connected to the sea or is that a lake?
Starting point is 00:45:27 A river will eventually be connected to the sea. So does a river is freshwater or is it saltwater? They're freshwater. Okay. Yeah. It's an estuary. That's where it becomes, it's a bit of both. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:38 So yeah, if it was saltwater, then you just get edamame. That's true. Yum. But freshwater? I don't think so. But alright. But like, either way. What do you mean? Salty beans, that's edamame. That's true. Mmm. Yum, but fresh water Either way salty beans, that's edamame baby salty beans bitch Boiled fucking salty beans steamed not boil. We should actually Yeah
Starting point is 00:46:05 No, true. That's fried twice. Edamame, you've got them in the casing, and you sort of, you can boil it in that. What beans are they? It's actually probably worth clarifying. Are they like, yeah, they dried beans? Kidney beans. Okay, dry kidney beans? No, I don't know, I was asking. Are they kidney beans? Yeah, let's say they're dry kidney beans.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I see, I was imagining the traditional three beans setup of edamame. Oh, I see. Okay, interesting He's in a pod Well edamame is also you can get in a in the pod you can get in pod or not Edamame is beans right or is it peas? What's the difference between a? You said no difference between peas and beans? I don't know, I'm asking mate
Starting point is 00:46:41 But you don't say three beans in a pod That's us It is three beans in a pod. That's us. Yeah. It is three peas in a pod. We're three beans in a pod. So the peas in the pod is usually like a snow pea? Yeah. That's the classic, if you're thinking of like classic- That's edamame though, right?
Starting point is 00:46:53 That's snow peas. No, but is edamame snow peas? No. Edamame is edamame. Edamame is edamame. But edamame is the process of making something, right? It starts as something else and becomes edamame? No. Edamame is edamame. Don't edamame like peas? Edamame is edamame. Edamame I a process of making something right it starts with something else and becomes edamame? Nooo
Starting point is 00:47:05 Don't edamame like peas Edamame is edamame Edamame I think is the plant It's kind of like, it's like yeah yeah it's not like it's like you know you're souping something Yeah Or you're stewing something It's not like
Starting point is 00:47:16 It's not like a wise Aseeli example I can think of it's not like pate Where it's a thing that's always just sorry it's a thing a different thing and you do something to it and it becomes paté it's it starts edamame it's always edamame you eat edamame. You just done stuff to it. I see what you mean. Yeah yeah yeah. Because paté is like you take liver and a bunch of other stuff you make paté yeah yeah but it's always made of liver yeah but edamame I think it's just edamame yeah and then you salt it and you steam it and it's still edamame but you're eating it now. It's like a carrot. Can you give a carrot?
Starting point is 00:47:45 Carrot's a good example, yeah. A carrot starts a carrot, ends a carrot. You eat a carrot, you can like, steam a carrot. Any fruit or vegetable would have been a good example. Potato, cabbage. Well we were talking about foie gras earlier, I see how you got there. Yeah, but look, now you've put that in my mind and I'm not 100% confident. I'm 90% sure edamame is just a... It's soybeans! Yeah, Yeah okay that makes sense. Well yeah. So it is beans.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Yeah. You know what? You alright. It's a Japanese dish of salted, salted green soy beans boiled in their pod. It's always wrong because you don't steam them boiled. Yeah okay yeah yeah. Typically served as a snack in an after-party. You boil them in a pod and then you pop them out and you eat them. And it's translation in English is beans on a branch. Whoa, I think more things should come in pod form. Yeah, I like that you can get beans or peas in a pod. You can't get anything else in a pod. And only few, even fewer things come on a cob. You know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:36 It feels like a waste. I was gonna say like a plant, some plants will be in a pod. Yeah, seed pods. Yeah, didn't bananas start as like a seed pod? I think so. I think they were, yeah. And then we just kind of like, I don't know, bread them somehow.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Bread them into bananas. Good now. Vanilla pods. Oh yeah. Mars pods. Boards, Snickers, Twix, Twix pods. Twix pods, yeah, they'd be tasty. They're rarer.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Yeah, but they are tasty. Hey, imagine this, M&M's pods. Oh brother. That would be, because then you get the goo of the, and then you get the little M&M's, that'd be very nice. Can we throw the beans across the river? Well, presumably the beans weigh the same as the goose and the fox, or the goose and the dog.
Starting point is 00:49:15 But I mean, one by one. I think it would be just as, throwing one bean across, versus throwing a whole bag of beans across. I just feel both of them aren't going across the- I feel like to the sack- I'm throwing the beans in the river. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I reckon you could get out of that rope I keep talking about. Yeah. Tie it around the sack of beans. Tie the beans to the boat. Okay. Make the beans float. Make the beans unsalted in a mami. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Did the beans float? Or I'm washing the beans, I guess. Yeah, well, the beans are dirty. Beans, it doesn't matter if the beans float because you're in a bag. Yeah. They just drag along the bottom of the river. I imagine you're like a Hessian dirty beans doesn't matter if the beans look cuz you're in a bag Yeah, they just drive like a Hessian sack, right? Yeah. Yeah Like the bag of potatoes make the rope shorter if it's dragging
Starting point is 00:49:53 Because you don't want it to open at the bottom of the river. No, no, no Jackson likes a pee. I hope a beans It's a is at the bottom of the river You look at the empty bag you look away because you don't want to believe you've lost your beans. And you look away at the river as you just see a whole bunch of beans float to the surface and float down the river. And the goose jumps in and starts eating them beans.
Starting point is 00:50:15 He's taken by the river, dashed on the rocks. The fox smells the dead goose, runs after it, falls in the river, dies as well. I Come into town and say who wants to buy a torn Hessian sack You do that you pick up the boat yeah Fuck this boat fuck this boat, but I think the best thing yeah you tie the Heshinsak around the boat with a short enough rope. Yeah. It's not gonna track on the bottom. Right. The goose look at that being like give me those beans so bad. It chases the boat. It chases the boat. It chases the boat and swim. I grab the fox. Yeah. Fox under the arm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Beans attached to the back of the boat. You're sort of sinking Bad you can counterbalance that with you in the fox of the front exactly and the beans aren't in the boat They just sort of float no plan. I think it's the best plan and that's one trip across the river one trip Did didn't have to do it in like three or four? No, you just gotta be really quick when you beach on the other side of the river really That's a goose doesn't catch you And then starts rastling those beans You're there though and the goose doesn't eat the beans around you
Starting point is 00:51:33 Maybe a paddle yeah Don't want to do that wallets in the river because it might stop swimming. Oh, yeah You know wait to get to the other side and if you're not quick enough you like hey Smart that's good thinking yeah I think we did it in one trip in one trip that's so easy that's the easiest riddle in the world
Starting point is 00:51:50 if you got a boat you got a piece of rope too yeah exactly if you got a boat you got a rope let's not fuck around yeah let's not fucking kid ourselves here if you got a boat you got a fucking rope fuck this riddle fuck this puzzle it's a puzzle not a riddle well you called it a riddle twice then yeah I did and riddle. Fuck this puzzle. It's a puzzle, not a riddle. Well, you called it a riddle twice then.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Yeah, I did. And riddle me this, fuck you. It's a puzzle. Cause that has multiple answers. Yeah. The multiple answers are very boring cause it's just the same variation. But a riddle only has one answer.
Starting point is 00:52:16 That was the difference. Puzzles have different ways of solving them and different answers. So it is a riddle. There's only one answer. No, there's not. There's two answers. Now there is.
Starting point is 00:52:24 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. there's not there's two answers. Now there is no no no no no no Before we there's two answers. It's pretty much the same but the order in which you can do things is different Okay, but in a way, that's the one solution. No, but that's the exact example Solution is the exact example Make it your back you have something on that's how you solve the riddle is you make a trip back That's just depends on what you have what you take. We did it in one Yeah, we we we fix that riddle real hard. You know how like when you did maths in high school. Yeah, I don't know if you did Yes, you know how like you would get a mark for working out and then a mark for the answer
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah, and you wouldn't get food you could get full marks. Yeah, yeah, you'd have to show the work I never got that the working out is different for both solutions. Yeah, I sort of know not sort of it is different So this is same. It's like whether you bring the goose or the Fox back or the beans back There's a diagram that shows why it's different. Well, I'll have to look at that after the That's what I'm gonna have to look at this word puzzle What's the most famous riddle You will have to look at that after the other day. You're gonna have to look at this wood puzzle diagram. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Is that the one like what has four legs? Oh yeah, the riddle of the Sphinx. Four legs in the morning, two legs in the afternoon, and three legs in the evening. Yeah, and the answer is man.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Yeah, riddle of the Sphinx is what's coming up. The trolley riddle. Trolley riddle? Yeah, it's a classic riddle, dude. What's the answer to this one? Nothing one, really. I know there's a classic riddle, dude. Classic riddle, dude. What's the answer to this one? Nothing one, really. I know there's that, this isn't a- The top one that came up for me
Starting point is 00:54:09 is one I've never heard before. Go on. As I walked along the path, I saw something with four fingers and one thumb, but it was not flesh, fish, bone, or foul. Four fingers with one thumb. It was not flesh, fish, bone, or foul. And they saw it where?
Starting point is 00:54:22 As they were walking. As they were walking. Some sort of, let's see, what has fingers in a thumb? It's not flesh. That's not the most famous riddle. Fuck this website. What has fingers in a thumb, but isn't made of flesh? Oh, I guess like-
Starting point is 00:54:33 Like some kind of cake, delicious cake. That's not a delicious cake. You say finger of whiskey sometimes. That's true. Thumb whiskey though. Just put thumb of whiskey. It's like hearing, cause I've seen the answer. Is that a sewing thing?
Starting point is 00:54:48 It's a glove. Okay, booooo The oldest riddle is there is a house one enters it blind and one and comes out seeing what is it? It's a miracle house. It's a house that cures my blindness. A magic house. They haven't given the answer. We'll just never know. I'm too stupid to figure out the answer. The riddles I have been served here are just like things I've never heard before.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Yeah. Walk on the living, they don't even mumble. Walk on the dead, they mutter and grumble. What the fuck? I mean, I know- Who's this? He's got visiting a grave A horse Leaves A horse Oh Out of the eater, something to eat
Starting point is 00:55:33 Out of the strung, something sweet Grapes? This is from the book of judges Yeah, I'm fucking judging them You will not get this The answer is asinine What? Out of the eater, something to eat Out of the str the strong something sweet and the answer is bees making a honeycomb
Starting point is 00:55:49 inside the carcass of a lion Fuck riddles and on that note, I've been Joel. I've been Jackson. I've also been Joel. Fuck that fucking shit. Yeah, dude Fuck that fucking shit. We don't need it. Say those are riddles to think of a puzzle. Yeah. Yeah, okay Poor men have so much of it. Rich men don't say there's a riddles to the puzzle. Yeah. Yeah, okay poor men have so much of it Rich men don't need it if you Eat it you'll die or what brains. Yes. He's got it. I didn't want One has a hole in it, but can never be filled or some shit Anyway, we'll see you next week was this good no one knows
Starting point is 00:56:24 Greatest riddle the devil ever played.

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