Plumbing the Death Star - Is the Magic School Bus an Effective Teaching Method? (Feat. Handsome Tom)

Episode Date: July 30, 2017

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Sands Pants Radio, random non-sequitur. Hey everybody, and welcome to this week's episode of Plumbing the Death Star, where we ask the important questions like, is the Magic School Bus an effective teaching method? Seatbelts everyone! Please let this be a normal field trip with a friend? No way! Okay, so for those, say, uninitiated,

who maybe were a little bit too old to watch said Magic School Bus. You're never too old to watch the Magic School Bus. I might have missed it in my growing up. Well, it's a fairly basic concept. So there's a lady named Miss Frizzle who has a class of, I want to say, grade four-eths. Yeah, they're not old. No, they're like ten.

Ten, like eight to ten, I'd say. They're perpetually 10 Is there something fucked up there? Maybe it's one school year I feel like it goes a lot longer though How many seasons? I reckon that redhead kid had like 3 birthdays Yeah, that's a bit much

Anyway, and this teacher Miss Frizzle, accompanied by From memory, an iguana Who is alive but can't talk Called Liz They Called Liz, that's right. They have educational field trips, but the way they have these field trips is that they hop into the aforementioned magic school bus, which I guess means that Miss Frizzle is also the bus driver. That's pretty funny. And the bus

then transforms into whatever is necessary, and then they will go on the field trip. So say they're going to learn about space, well, it'll become a spaceship, they'll go into space. They're going to learn about the ocean, it'll become like a submarine, and they'll... Oh, it's magic. It's a trans-dimensional... It's a magic school bus.

It's in the title, I guess. It's not the average school bus that sometimes is a rocket. They're transforming school buses. The school bus that is just... It's some spectacular technology, G-Wiz. It's like a TARDIS bus. Yeah, I suppose. But it can kind of like, I guess it is. But it has a face.

It's alive as well, I think. It's an anthropomorphic bus that people climb inside of. So like, you're in the bus's guts. But the bus doesn't talk, so maybe it just has a face. Oh, the bus smiles. I know, but it responds though. Because it's like, when people are talking about it, it's like oh, I'm a bus. That's even the point of its mouth.

And then they climb inside its chest. Anyway, my feeling is that if I was a 10-year-old child and I needed to learn about space, sending me to space, like, aside from the bus being alive and my teacher having us perpetually be 11 or whatever, going to space doesn't teach a child about space. It just puts a child in danger

Well, but I'm of the belief that the immersion into the activity gives you a better So space is dumb, the dumb example Dinosaurs, right? Okay So there's a dinosaur one where they go back in time to meet the dinosaurs So there's all conjecture about the dinosaurs Hot-blooded, cold-blooded Did they have feathers? Did they not have feathers? Solved We've gone back in time Here meet the dinosaurs? So there's all conjecture about the dinosaurs. Hot-blooded, cold-blooded. Did they have feathers?

Did they not have feathers? Solved. We've gone back in time. Here are the literal dinosaurs. I have the answers. Well, that's fantastic if Miss Frizzle's taking back our school bus full of scientists. Future scientists, man. One of these kids is going to cure dinosaur cancer.

You got me. You got me. Throw it back to future scientists. But, like, young minds. Moulding young minds. Because, like, it's a kind of, you know, there's different methods of learning and, like, it's the kinesthesia ones where you learn by touching and doing and that kind of stuff.

So, like, for those students who are like, oh, this is fantastic, I can go and I can pat a good herbivore dinosaur that won't mold me maybe, and that's great. There's that one kid with ADD, though, that goes and tries to hug a Tyrannosaurus. Well, herein lies the fucking rub. So, yes. Is that, say I'm Miss Frizzle and I've taken children back in Dinosaur Z

without their parents' permission. Oh, yes. Of course it's fine. Oh, yeah, no. There's no parent permission. There's the danger. Yeah, nah. And I'm like, oh, we're having fun.

And then Carlos or whatever runs off, gets eaten by a T-Rex. Yeah, she gets sued. That's my responsibility as a teacher to make sure my kid doesn't get eaten. Go on, try and sue a woman with a bus that can travel through time. She can also shrink the bus down and go inside people's bodies. That was my least favorite episode because the kid they go inside did not consent. Is it the redhead kid? Yeah.

He feels sick the whole day and he doesn't know why. And that's a nightmare. That's a nightmare. Miss Frizzle went she's like knocking her. Ralphie. Inside Ralphie is the I just got a list of all the episodes. Inside Ralphie is a really

fucking dark title. You're learning about germs. The class need Ralphie to give them a store idea For a broadcast day Because apparently that's a thing But Ralphie is sick so his mother, a doctor Refuses to allow him to go to school The mum there seems smart

If a kid can't go to school The school will go into the kid Miss Frizzle says that there is an amazing battle Going on inside him The class decide broadcast day should be about whatever is making Ralphie sick. Okay, that's a bit of a weird leap, but it's a multimedia kind of exercise. I think this is just like Miss Frizzle's the night before, like, what are we going to do with the bus today?

But then... That's what I imagined. She hasn't thought... No. No. So I'm starting to think that Miss Frizzle is literally not a teacher but a bus driver, and because of shortages with education funding, it's set in America, their education is flawed,

they've had to employ this bus driver as a teacher. And she's like, I don't know how to teach kids. She's the equivalent of the substitute teacher who lets you watch Space Jam for five days straight. She takes you on a crazy field trip on the bus. Yeah, they're like, who's this person? She's like a sub teacher, but she's got a magic bus. That's a twofer right there.

That's real good. Get her teaching the kids. Then this is like, after shrinking and going into Ralphie's veins through a cut, which I'm not pleasant. No. That makes me very unpleasant there. The class traveled to Ralphie's sore throat to see what is making him sick. Then his white blood cells see the bus as a threat and

attempt to devour it. Wow. So first of all, going, I mean like there's no ledger sludge of... Who made the clutch of the boy? That's my first point of problem. I think we know. Carlos. I like to think Miss Frizzle

was just like Kids look away A little cut on Carlos But Ralphie from memory he's not allowed to come to school No he's not So they go to him What if there had not been a cut That's my point Yeah but how would they have gotten in

Would have made a cut I don't know and I don't like it I feel like the bus In my head I imagine the bus shoots a laser out Cuts a little hole and i don't like i feel like i feel like the bus also in my head i imagine the bus like shoots a laser out yeah cuts a little hole and ralphie's like ah oh he's got it's a sore throat it's just gone straight to the mouth but like that's just all kinds of fucked up and then it's like look it's weird that you're learning about it's like observing a war so for example all right oi there's a turf war happening three streets over let's go and watch it as an observer and you're like that sounds great uh let's go and watch it as an observer. And you're like, that sounds great.

Let's go there. And then you're there and you get shot by a stray bullet. This is bad. Like, journalists don't do this. If Miss Rizzo was like, I got to teach the kids about World War II and took them back to World War II, you'd be like, that's not. Could you imagine, like, if Miss Rizzo was a secondary school teacher and was like, tell them going to learn about the Holocaust.

But this is including magic involved in time travel. I'm saying if you take and use a literal world example, this is so bad. It's like, all right, what we're going to do is... It's magic, so it's okay. None of the kids are magic. They're not protected. We don't know that, though. They've always got whatever they need, though, in that bus okay. None of the kids are magic. They're not protected. Yeah, we don't know that, though.

We don't know that. They've always got whatever they need, though, in that bus, right? Yeah, but in the bus. When it turns into the spaceship and they go into outer space, the kids all of a sudden have spacesuits in the bus. It's fitted out for space travel completely, I feel like. But to become an astronaut is like a process. Children aren't allowed to be astronauts for good reason.

You're too high thinking. It's just, all right, I've learned that dog fighting is a thing and it's horrible. And then Miss Frizzle is like, correct, let's go down to the local dog underground dog fight and go have a look. Don't worry, I've got us some good seats in the arena. In the actual fight.

In the actual pit. Guess what, Ralphie? You're fighting a dog today Not even that It's just like you're observing and watching But then the dogs just turn on the kids But see, that's That's what's happening here

No, because you're missing the fundamental point of the magic school bus It's magic That doesn't change the fact that it's a horrible duty of care It changes it completely Because you're saying in a scenario where it's a horrible duty of care. It changes it completely. You're saying in a scenario where it's like come on guys, let's go watch a street fight. You don't need a magic school bus to do that. Exactly. So she's not going to do that.

No, but she'll take you inside a body and you'll get eaten by a white blood cell. Imagine this world where Miss Frizzle doesn't somehow bat a hundred every time and she goes into Ralphie's body and the white blood cell just consumes the bus. And everyone's like, what happened to those kids? What happened to that bus?

We'd never know. And that's very possible. Yes. Oh, this could get dark. So what if the white blood cell consumes the bus? And it's like, how do we get out of this? We just make the bus big again. Better Ralphie disappears than the bus and the school bus.

What happened to Ralphie? I just imagine Miss Frizzle with this like wild maniac grin being like, it's him or you, kids. It's him or you, make the decision.

And that's an easy decision to make. I'm sorry, Ralphie, but bye-bye. Yeah, oh, absolutely. And then it's just like, you're being, is that murder?

Yes, yes. Or is that manslaughter? In a court of law, I don't think you can do anything about magic school bus. Yes? Or is that manslaughter? In a court of law, I don't think you can do anything involving a magic school bus. Well, there's no precedent for a magic school bus. I like the magic school bus coming in in cuffs. That's good.

Look, like... Brr, brr, brr. It's the first three episodes. You've got... Gets lost in space. So Arnold's cousin, Janna, visits Miss Frizzle's class to go on a field trip to the planetarium

to watch a show about the solar system. Now, this is great. That's a really good idea for excursion. Boring. I want to go to space, Zamet. Well, the planetarium is closed, so Arnold suggests that they go into out of space. Hang on.

That's Arnold's fault. What even? All right. The class explores Mercury, Venus, and Mars while Janet collects proof of their voyage. In the asteroid belt While Janet is trying to collect an asteroid as further proof They lose Miss Frizzle and find themselves

Lost in space She can just fuck off apparently at any given moment Miss Frizzle clearly has no like Like as a teacher you have a certain level of responsibility Yeah Now the next episode for lunch Arnold really wants to Break a school record

and to his surprise, finally gets his wish by staying at school with Liz while Miss Frizzle takes the class on another weird field trip without realising he is the field trip. Not quite sure what the break a school record is, but I'm assuming he's just traumatised from his recent trip to being lost in space

that he's like, I don't want to go on any field trip. I'm staying in the class. Wait, wait, wait. Arnold's the field trip? Do they go inside a body twice? Yes. They go inside his digestion tract.

So, like, I'm guessing here. It's a second time. Is his record like an eating record? Like he's going to eat the most hamburgers in the cafeteria or something, I feel. I don't know. Or it's like Arnold really wants to break his school record, as in, like, to maybe stay in school without going on one of Miss Frizzle's weird trips. He's like, I refuse. I don't know. Or it's like, Arnold really wants to break a school record, as in, like, to maybe stay in school without going on one of Miss Frizzle's weird

trips. He's like, I refuse. I don't want to. I'm afraid of going into space again. What if? Right? What if the magic school bus and Miss Frizzle and the whole, you know, the kids are the same age the whole way through. What if Miss Frizzle

is the devil? I'm listening. The kids are the same age the whole way through. What if Miss Frizzle is the devil? Uh-huh. I'm listening. This is a form of hell for naughty children. But they're having too much fun, though. Are they? Well, look. Are they?

They seem like they're enjoying it. I just don't think if I was in that class, I would ever feel, like, I wouldn't feel safe. And not just because I might go to space at any time. I know that I've been inside two children's guts. Phoebe is worried about all the poor animals living in the desert. How will they ever

survive? She decides to go to the desert in order to do something about it. Like, what the fuck? And it's like, yep, alright, we got this. There's an episode. That's weird learning. That's not how you learn. That's also dumb learning. How do animals survive in the desert? They just do They don't need help

Just get them a textbook, Miss Frizzle Also apparently the bus can break down Well that's not good It's not that magic then Is Miss Frizzle a time lord? Or some kind of Magical entity? Is she a demigod?

Well Miss Frizzle herself Has no magic How do we know though Well the school bus does everything What does Miss Frizzle achieve She was wearing cool outfits Yeah but if you had a magic bus you would too Her outfits often reflect what they're doing

Before they do it too So she makes the plan Presumably the night before To be like today we're going to space or the moon or whatever. What have you learned? Well, it's Miss Frizzle's birthday. They want to make her a cake, but the bus starts playing up and shrinks them all.

So now they have a problem of how to make a cake while they're a millimeter tall. No, the problem is that you're a millimeter tall. How do I get bigger? Have you guys seen Monster House? Yes, recently. Yeah, familiar with the concept? What if Miss Frizzle and the magic school bus are a monster house?

Her husband was a bus driver and is now a magic school bus? It punishes children. I just don't like how the bus can act up. I don't like how the bus can act up I don't like how the bus It's sentient You live inside it We discussed this It's clearly sentient

And has emotions and feelings And you're at it's whim Because you're inside it Also it acted up Not as in like The mechanics of it broke down It acted up as in The school bus was like

I don't know I'm gonna make everyone tiny I don't know I remember one episode Where they all get turned into lizards Yeah I remember that Yeah They get turned into lizards

To learn about lizards. What are the powers of this magic bus? It can shrink people, it can shrink itself. I think it's reality changing. It's a demigod. A bus is a demigod. It can just do whatever it likes to kids. It's like, I'm gonna eat your lizards now. But it's at the whim of Miss Frizzle

because Miss Frizzle plans. Unless the bus is like, Miss Frizzle, tomorrow we're going to space. And she's like, I don't think that's good for the kids. And the boss is like, you better fucking do it. Put on your space jumpsuit. We're going to space. What if there's like a deal going on?

What if the boss is the devil? Yeah, the boss is the devil. Frizzle's like, be as a bub. The devil's the hench person? I don't know. See,

but your argument is though that it's not a, it's not a, taking away all of the absurd, like, dangerous things you go through, empirically, is there a better way to learn than, like, actually getting the evidence? Well, I think it would be fine if the magic school bus itself was safe. Because then, fuck it, send kids to space.

But it happens. It's just a bus. That acts up. Yeah. Like, if the argument was we're kind of, like, watching a bus That acts up If the argument was We're kind of watching a reenactment of something Because that's again another good way of learning But what

Miss Frizzle is doing is She's doing all of that We're learning by doing Which is, it's fine That is a technique that you can do But when it's always that, that's bad Well I think it's kind of weird because I don't think if I was put inside a human body I would learn about the human body a technique that you can do, but when it's always that, that's bad. Well, I think it's kind of weird because, like,

I don't think if I was put inside a human body I would learn about the human body. And not just because I'd be terrified the whole time. You've got context. Yeah, I'm just like, it's all pink mush. She's like, that's the liver. I'm gonna be like, okay. Because it's not we gotta remember, like,

a university level education or even a high school level education. It's like a primary school education. Yeah, true. So it's not like, oh, we're inside the heart, so we can look at the different ventrises and where shit's coming and going and all the intricate bullshit. It's just like, the heart. That said, like, I do love edutainment.

It is a fun little thing of mine that I actually enjoy. So she's making her classes interesting. Like, you are going to remember these classes. Well, maybe not, though. Maybe they're just like a blank. Yeah, I'd repress them. I'd repress them. A trauma.

So, Ralphie, what's wrong? He's like a 30-year-old guy, can't sleep. Every time he sees a dinosaur or the stars, he just goes out in cold sweats and he can't remember why. And he's like, was I a boy who was a lizard or am I just a lizard who was a man? Every now and again, he just does this. I like to think every time he gets sick,

he goes to the doctor and he's like, check me for buses. What? Nothing. Is there a bus? Well, I want to the doctor and he's like, check me for buses. What? Nothing. Is there a bus out? I want to know about the digestive system one with Arnold. Does that mean he shit the bus out? I mean, like, that's the digestive system. I'm assuming then that

Arnold's classmates have now been in and out of Arnold's butthole. And here's, you know, Miss Frizzle now a pedophile. Unbeknownst to Arnold as well, he didn't, without realising that he is the field, he didn't know. He didn't consent to this.

At no point was Arnold like, yeah, that's fine. You can go in my... Why not, Miss Frizzle? Go to a fucking medical school. Be like, hey, I'm teaching kids about digestion. I've got a magic school bus. You got anybody that would willingly let a bus inside them and they're just

going to be excuse me what are you what is this what are you and you both just answered the question as to

why she doesn't ask for permission if you can do that how about this instead why don't you teach first off

let's just ask ourselves as not students but people who are expertise in this field if you can do what you say you do, this will just improve

our field of knowledge for quite a dramatic event. So let's just do this ourselves. This is amazing. And you say you can do this too. Can we employ you to teaching like university level? Not do it at a university level. She's just starting out.

Also, we've established she's a substitute teacher's just starting out She hates Also we've established She's a substitute teacher Slash bus driver Yeah she hates the education Yeah she hates the education system Yeah She didn't go to school She didn't go to school

Because she has a magic school bus She did all of her learning She's like one of those Free range children That like Didn't go to school Or like was like a Steiner school kind of thing

Oh my god Oh Wow What's Is it worse Or better If Miss Frizzle uses herself Steiner school kind of thing. Oh my god. Wow. Is it worse or better if Miss Frizzle uses herself? So if Miss Frizzle is like, everybody get in the bus, we're going in me.

No, but like... Oh, then who's driving the bus? The bus can drive itself. But then like... The bus can drive itself. But what happens when something goes wrong? You're basically sending again, using real world, trying to get this to real examples. It's like, let's go to a field excursion. I have a zoo in my backyard.

Just go nuts. I'm not going to watch you. All right, kids. I bought a beer. Everybody come out the back. Let's have a look at it. Yeah. And like you go have a look at it while I go make our sandwiches.

Yeah. And like you go have a look at it while I go make us sandwiches Yeah Do you reckon like the other teachers The other faculty at whatever school Like hate Miss Frizzled? Yeah There's that bitch Going inside kids

Also it's taking a whole school day as well Yeah That's true Parents, could you imagine like It's like School of Rock scenario The parents all come in and just like Yell at the principal I'm trying to work out Because I'm thinking of like You know more high school They have different periods It's like the School of Rock scenario. The parents all come in and just yell at the principal.

I'm trying to work out because I'm thinking of more high school. They have different periods. In grade four, you just have your own class. Where has it changed? I haven't been to primary school for a while now. Yeah, no, frankly neither. Unless they're learning... When are they learning math? They're not learning math.

They'll learn math on a day where they go into a math... It's like, what are we going to do today? We're going to find the last digit of pi. Let's go, kids. Well, they're not learning math. They'll learn math on a day where they go into a math. It's like, oh, what are we going to do today? We're going to go, we're going to find the last digit of pi. Let's go, kids. Or it's like, we're going to learn about Pythagoras' theorem. Let's go meet that dickhead. Yeah, they can go to Greece.

Oi, Pythagoras. Tell us about your theorem. I like to think it'd get even more like, just out there than that. She's like, today we're going to, everything is just math, children. We're going to's like today we're going to everything is just math children we're going to shrink that we're going to become math they just do that Ant-Man thing where they become like through molecules until they're just the concept of

things like the concept of a bus full of children grade four what's that in terms of like that's like 10 yeah at 10 what do you what are your educational needs because I'm kind of approaching this maybe a little bit too more sophisticated because it's like pythagoras theorem that's you're not teaching that to 10 year olds what are you teaching tables i think time tables sort of spelling and grammar

basic basic math yeah fractions you really want to use basic stuff here yeah and like taking someone to the human body that that's advanced biology shit. Yeah, it's confusing in there. Because this is hemoglobin. What? This is... You've got to try to explain that. You give them fun names.

Like the hemoglobin. Yeah, this is a hemoglobin. Ah, my body's full of goblins! She just traumatises them again. Oh my god, because if they go to Ralphie and they see his throat and everyone's having a fight between white blood cells and infection,

they're like, that's inside me right now. Get it out of me. Because you have that idea that apparently there's thousands of mites living on your eyelashes right now that we just don't know or care about because they're so fucking tiny. Hang on.

What? Yeah. Yeah. Living in your eyeballs is like thousands of little microbes that aren't part of you. Yeah. I'm not happy. Do you know your body's mostly things that aren't part of you?

That's just how the human body works. I want to cut my eyes out now. We have things that live inside us that aren't part of us but that just have evolved to live inside us. That's the beauty of nature. Let me just have a quick Google of an eyelash eyelash No, no, I don't want to know I'm happy and not knowing Oh my god, this is what the kids in Mrs. Fris's classroom must think

This little bugger like here This little eyelash This little face hugger I'm pulling out all of my eyelashes Oh my eyes are so itchy now So this is your hair follicle And that's where they live. They don't live there.

I want to pluck my eyes and scratch them. Just pluck your eyeballs completely out. Do I need to see? No. When that's the downside of seeing, I'm good. Because that's a weird concept, and you're a mid-20-year-old man learning this, and you're uncomfortable.

Imagine learning this at 10. So my health theory holds up. She's the devil. This is a good way to punish kids. But you're right, the kids have too much fun. Carlos is making puns. He's having a good time. Carlos does do puns.

He's pun crazy, and he loves it. And everyone's like, Carlos, you fucking dickhead. Shut up. In terms of an educational tool, it's overcomplicated. It's too much for what I would consider 10-year-olds. Yeah. Like, if you're learning, like, if you're teaching, like, a unit, say, on dinosaurs for 10-year-olds,

generally you kind of want to eke that out over a couple of weeks. You're like, there were dinosaurs. Here are some of the dinosaurs. Because you're not going to have like a, it's a dinosaur day today, because that's kind of what's happening here. She's like, a whole day dedicated to dinosaurs. We're going to go back in time and see these big dumb lizards. Sick. So what I want to know

is though, are the kids now like 10 years from now just fucking geniuses though? What are the positive effects? Yeah, but okay, so imagine if one point in your life you'd gone back in time, seen dinosaurs, Miss Frizzle would have been like, that's the this dinosaur. Because that's what I'm assuming the education you get, seen dinosaurs miss frizzle had been like that's the this dinosaur like because that's what i'm assuming the education you get is miss frizzle just being like that's a triceratops that's a t-rex they ate this grass they like it's still

because and and and this is a little matter but it's just the case the magic school bus the tv show was designed to educate kids of the same age as the kids on the magic school bus which means that the information those kids learned was information appropriate. Although that's good. No, but it's not because it means those kids got the same level of education they would had they just had an already good teacher.

So it's unnecessary. That's what I mean. You're like, well, those kids be geniuses. No, they just would have at one point seen dinosaurs. But they could be geniuses now because, uh, no, maybe not. No. They just would have at one point seen dinosaurs. But they could be geniuses now because...

No, you're actually hitting the nail on the head here. It's like you could have been, say, gone and watched the dinosaur people or you could have watched a documentary about the guys who went... You've learnt the same information. And because Miss Frizzle is kind of teaching to these kids who are... Yeah, it's the same information. But see, the kids couldn't learn. The kids who watched the documentary about the people in the magic school bus couldn't learn the requisite information that they're learning from watching the documentary if the magic school bus doesn't go back in time to the dinosaurs.

No, but I mean if they just watched any documentary on dinosaurs. All right. They're geniuses because they can literally do a fully immersive topic every day. Well, that's assuming that- So by the time they finish grade four, they've actually learnt everything. Well, again, this comes down to what the kids and which kid learns what better.

Because there might be one kid that actually learns better by watching a dinosaur documentary than a kid who is like, I'm going to go and experience dinosaurs. I don't want to stay at home eating hamburgers. Yeah, exactly. Or I'm going to read a textbook or I'm going to write a report. How many days of the year do you like? At school?

Yeah, at school. In grade four, how many days of the year are you there? I feel like there's about three something, something, something. So take 60 days out for the three months of summer. Yep. So we're at 300. And then you probably, you then lose weekends. So that's 50.

Yeah. 100 days because there's two every week. That's about 100 days. So we're now at 200. Yeah. And then you're losing like two weeks of the year for school holidays. Chuck in an extra week of public holidays. We're now looking at seven times four.

Let's call it 50. Rightio. 50, 60. So we're now at 140 days. It's got 140 days of school. It's 140 days of school. And every single one of those days, good math, by the way, and every single one of those days.

Yeah, I know. I'm really, I'm actually really impressed with myself. Yeah, that was real good. It was great to watch. Oh, thanks guys. I don't need no magic school bus. See, you didn't need magic school bus, you know math. Well done.

Every one of those days is taken up by a different topic. Yeah. But that's not how you teach people. No, and this is the thing, if this was part of like a larger topic so again, you're like, alright, the whole thing is about dinosaurs, so this is what dinosaurs are, and now we're going to go to the dinosaur place and actually go back to where the dinosaurs were and look at them and be like, sick alright, now I want you to write a report about a particular dinosaur. Yeah. You know, that's how you sort of teach.

That's education. It's like you do multiple kind of facets about that one particular topic. Yeah. And because you're doing this to 10-year-olds, it needs to be general. And this is just... It's not. It's not. Although, you know what?

Having said that, they went inside Ralphie's body and who was the other guy? Arnold. Arnold. So that's two sessions on the human body. So do they literally go into different people's bodies to learn about different parts of the body? Are they going into someone's brain? A white blood cell and illness. Another one you're learning about a digestive tract.

So technically, she is breaking them down into units, which to say that the dinosaur excursions are three, and they go to the Triassic period, the Jurassic period, and the Cretaceous period. I like to think they go to the extinction event. Yeah, this is an extinction event, kids. Hold on to your butts. Let's go.

Because if that's how she's operating it, then that's kind of, I mean, still not good. Still not good. And also again We are looking at this As in this is happening every day We might just be getting a sliver of Fuck going to that school

If it's not happening every day Well we might just be getting this As a slice of life Actually you know what Having said that The kids are always pretty shocked Aren't they No they're not shocked

But they're excited Like it's not I imagine there are days When Miss Frizzle Doesn't take them on adventures. There has to be. That's ridiculous. There's only 52 episodes.

So they're at school 140 days. They're not going on an adventure. So here you go. When they go back in time to meet the dinosaurs, that's the last part. You'd hope. Or maybe it's the first part, and then they use that learning in class. So... Yeah, actually...

It's a good education system. If they're only going 50 times to this stuff, they go, they come back, they then spend like two, three weeks on the curriculum, but they get a cool excursion, which, you know, I went to the museum, you went back in time. Okay, fair. So look, I'm coming around to it. Yeah, me too.

I think I'm winning. 52 excursions in a year is a bit much. Yeah, but if you've got the- It's one a week. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's one a week. It's a bit much. Actually, it's more than one a week because there's weeks where you're not at school.

So it's a little bit too much. I think Miss Frizzle calmed down. Unless this is taking place over the course of maybe two or three years, then that's a bit better. Who knows how many... Well, you are missing out on something important because it's just science really, isn't it? They're not going back in time to learn like how to spell.

They could do, but they could. They could go back to like Victorian era London and meet Shakespeare and learn about how he created words. But they go back to Shakespeare. They'll be like Shakespeare. Teach these four great forces of spell. Recycling, water erosion. Yeah, but those aren't

still science. That's science. That's what we call science. Salmon migration. That's what we call What was that? Color. That's still science.

Archaeology. That's what we call That's history and geography I reckon. And science. No. Archaeology is science. Honeybees is science.

That's science. That's what we call science. Oh, but okay. So what if she branched out into space rocks? Man, she's doing more space. Energy. That's justes are science. They're science. That's what we call them. Oh, but okay. So what if she branched out into space rocks? Man, she's doing more space energy. That's just straight up science. What if she's a science teacher? Uh-huh.

So she comes in. So at primary school, we had a science teacher. Yeah. So we didn't necessarily do science in the classroom. You would actually go to a specific classroom with a science teacher, and she would teach about something scientific. So what if Frizzler with a science teacher and she would teach about something scientific. So what if Frizzler is a science teacher and, like, twice a week you go and you learn specifically about science and there's another teacher

who teaches you history and English and math? That's good. That kind of makes sense. Like, you're like, okay, because in a school day, yeah, I had the same thing, not with science, but with, like, art and music and a couple of other ones. Yeah, like an extra teacher who wasn't, like like your homeroom teacher or whatever you call it. So maybe these kids are like, well, I've done my English suite.

We're going to Miss Frizzle to learn about where are we going to go today? No, no, no. Because they've got a space for like the whole day. No, no, no, no, no. Maybe they don't, though. It's a magic school bus. Surely it's like Narnia, right? You go in the wardrobe, You're there for like 25 years

You come back You've been gone for 5 minutes It would have to be your first period I don't think that's how it works in the show Because when they go inside Like the lad I'm guessing it's a whole day You know what I mean

I haven't seen the episode But I would argue when they go inside So that's what I mean They have a day of science It's a science elementary school Like it's a science based school It's a K to 12 So it's kindergarten to science? It's a science elementary school. It's a science-based school. It's a K-12, so it's kindergarten to 12, and it's a science-specific school.

These things happen. You have sports-based schools, art schools. It's like a reverse Steiner school. It's an Einsteiner school. I hope you'll be sitting on that for the last 10 minutes. No. I'm really happy with myself. Off-the-cuff hero.

So as a learning tool, look, it's not a bad one because it is basically an excursion. It is a very fucked excursion. It's irresponsible as fuck, but it's still a good science. You didn't say, is the magic school bus irresponsible? That's true. Because if the answer is yes. Yes, absolutely.

Is it a good educational tool? Possibly. Essentially, because again, you're hitting those different areas of how you learn. Yeah. And so long as they're doing follow-ups and kind of discussion. They're actually exploring the subject instead of just going and that's good. Well done. Now you learn about dinosaurs.

You're like, wait, what? I feel that's good. Here's what I. We're going to take you back in time and we're going to show you a T-Rex. Fuck, I got a T-Rex. That's sick. All right, let's quickly go back where it eats us. Sick, we're back. All right, now we're going to learn about T-Rexes.

I think if you're going to do it properly, you do two excursions per subject. So you do the first one, you go back to see the dinosaurs. You come back, you're like, right, for the next two weeks, we're going to be learning everything we can about dinosaurs. And then at the end of those two weeks, we're going to go back and you can use what you've learned, like that's like your exam to interact with a T-Rex to uh, yeah

I don't know how you use it you know what I mean, you come back and you're like what is this? and now you've got the knowledge whereas at first it's like the first one is there to kind of show, introduce, you put your toe in the water then you come back in the real world you learn books, all that kind of stuff.

Then at the end, instead of like a pop quiz, you almost do like an interactive pop quiz. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. So it's like, what's this? That's a T-Rex. Correct.

What's it trying to do? Eat us. Correct. You did it wrong. Here's what bums me out for those kids, what I think is kind of sad for them. You live this amazing year with Miss Frizzle, you know, two excursions to see the dinosaurs.

Ah, then you go to space. Oh my God. Every couple of weeks is like the most exciting adventure of your life. And eventually I'm sure you figure out that like none of you are going to really die because none of you really have, you know, you'd start to feel really safe. Then you reach the end of the school year, you have your end of year celebration and then you go to like Mr. Johnson and he's like, right. And you're like, what excursions are we doing he's like no no excursion we go to the museum halfway through

the year and then we go to the zoo at the end and you're like well did you have the same art and music teacher all the way through primary school i did so there you go i suppose all right all right then you finish grade six yeah and they're like we'll enjoy uh puberty in high school and you're like you're fucking 15 you're in the middle of your teenage angst and they're like, well, enjoy puberty in high school. And you're like, you're fucking 15, you're in the middle of your teenage angst, and you're like, I remember when I went to space. I'm never going to get to go back. No, no, no, no, no. Here's the thing. You go, I'm never going to get

to go back. Unless I become an astronaut. And so you apply all of the space stuff that you learn, and you become a, like, you learn, you learn, you become really good, and then you graduate, and you become a pilot you learn you become really good and then you graduate and you become a pilot and then you become an astronaut and you get to go back to space. No because

the way my mind would work would be like I really want to go back to space. Miss Frizzle went back to space. I'm going to go speak to Miss Frizzle. Miss Frizzle how did you do that? Can I have that magic bus

like i'd be trying to follow that path no but i see what you mean it might inspire you maybe i'll become like an educator and try to become try to get that magic school bus maybe still that bus imagine this you're like oh go to space you you take your path to me like i'm i'm gonna become an astronaut you know you gotta you train you train Eventually you get to go in the ISS And you get to space and it looks completely different To when you went with Miss Frizzle But that's just growing up What do you mean that's just growing up? What if it's like you're like

This is not at all Where did she take us? Or you become a doctor and you look in the human body And you're like this is all wrong Where did you go? What do you mean it's all wrong? So she was taking you somewhere else I don't know but i could that's the kind of feat because real space is different from the kind of space that miss frizzle took you to adam was saying

before as we spoke that at the end of uh every episode they would have somebody who would be like hero the the things that we yeah exactly, exactly. How terrifying! I guess I'm positing that she's not taking you to real space. She's taking you to some kind of nightmare Miss Frizzle space. I was under the assumption that we're going, you know, she's actually taking us to space and doing all this. And that those faction accuracies exist in the TV show. However, he's a cartoon version of the creator. So he exists within the reality of the show.

Yeah, but, like, we're putting Miss Frizzle in the real world. Yeah. Yeah, fair. Although that's a terrifying thought. So she's kind of like, all right, everyone close your eyes and just plugged everyone into a matrix. Everyone just got matrix and was like, I've been in space. And Miss Frizzle's there, like, flipping through a magazine.

Yes, you were. Yep, that's space. Totally in space and Miss Frizzle was there like flipping through a magazine yes you were totally in space enjoy wow dickheads they just start no what happens is there though

is that she does that and then they roll it out across the board to every school in the world because it's low maintenance you just plug children in and you don't have to do anything

exactly you know where did you know Miss Frizzle apparently vanished at one point no it just glitched out a bit you know what I mean it's one of those problems. She had to pay.

It's just one of those things. Yeah. So, like, as an educational tool, going to events and seeing them firsthand is an interesting one. It's basically like a very in-depth excursion. Yeah. Yep. There's arguments for and against if that would actually make a good

uh educational tool because against depends what they're learning depends like you know going inside a human body and seeing like an actual war happening and then you're getting attacked it's not good you're just not going to be paying enough attention to get educated it just seems that every time something goes wrong, sometimes you're a lizard, sometimes you're lost in space, sometimes you're getting attacked by white blood cells, sometimes you're getting shot out by a classmate. Something is very weird.

I forgot we're getting shot out. Fuck, you're learning about decomposition. Dad, what are you learning here? Yeah, I think at the end of the day, like, it's good, but there are other methods that are working. Like, it's good, but it's not necessary. It's good, it's not necessary.

And I feel 10-year-olds, this is a technology that should not be given to someone who is looking after 10-year-olds. Yeah, right. She's a rogue agent. Is Miss Frizzle of the same ilk as Rick Sanchez from Rick and Morty? They're not actually going back in time. They're going to alternate dimensions. See, that's, I would watch that show.

Get in the bus. Get in the bus. Get in the bus. Get in the bus. Oh, bus, bus, bus. I was enjoying imagining Miss Frizzle as a terrible drunk, like earlier while we were talking, just being like, why don't we get a little day?

Oh, go to the human body. Ralphphie's sick all right everybody in the bus that's fine gotta see what's going on ralphie gotta cure ralphie we're gonna let's go miss frizzle standing there with that classic r Sanchez Bit of drool Looking at like the white blood cells Being like oh my god Just curse Ralphie goes inside him You cut him real deep How else do you think

We're gonna get inside his body You idiots You gotta go in the vein You kids Now we're gonna learn What happens when a body bleeds out While we're inside it We've got a time limit now

Somebody out there Should really do Like a parody TV show For your adult swim or something Rick Frizzle That's kind of vain, that'd be amazing Don't tell your parents where we went today kids Just collapses

Oh that's sad As a teaching method Maybe the kids are learning something It's not the best teaching method, it's fine of care bad terrible and this does it like she's incompetent the duty of care and the the recklessness probably means it's not great but as an educational tool they're probably worse ones if it was this kind of like i don't know what they are but they're probably dead fish but every day look on the scale of like no dead fish every day would be the best all right everyone lie down frizzle's got a headache oh boy we don't have to go on a crazy

oh my god thank god i feel like i'd get like terrible anxiety like i would be chatting to my where does frizzle sit on like the the you know like dangerous substitute teacher scale like you know like you're you're you're dewey finn from uh do we finn from school of rock like oh yeah where does she sit on that scale miss frizzle has good intentions it seems like yeah she's clearly intelligent yeah intelligence she's got good intentions she's also actually a teacher as far as we know yeah we, that's true. Well, that's an assumption. That's a leap that we're making. But, like, it assumes that. At least she's got a bus. That's something that

definitely knows that we know. She knows when they're in the place, wherever it is, she knows what the things are. In my head, she's more responsible than every teacher at Hogwarts. Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. In terms of an educator, she's doing pretty good. And there is a variety of things you are learning. Yes, they're all very much science based, but there's still a variety of stuff we're learning,

whereas with the School of Rock, we're just learning rock. Oh, yeah, as an educator. We're learning how to believe in ourselves, guys. Yeah, that's still, like, education's important. Learning is integral to learning. I need to know about history and English. I need math, otherwise. Yeah, but Miss Frizzle, she's actually teaching

because she knows what she's talking about. Clearly she did a dip at some point or something. Like, if I was looking at this, scanning the sort of topics, I'm like, this is very nice, but like, you're right, this is all very science-based. Where are the stuff on like art, literature, that kind of thing? But as we

suggested, she could just be the science teacher. She could just be the science teacher, correct. That means the school's complicit in it then, yeah? Yeah. Well then, yeah. And then if the school is complicit in it, that means that the duty of care is taken care of. So it's semi-taken care

of because then the parents would know about it as well. Do they sign like a waiver at the start of the year? Like if my kid gets eaten by a bear, that's cool. It's like your general excursion waiver. They don't need to know where you go. It's just like any damages sustained to your child. Because I'm sure that's on excursion things.

If he bumps his knee or whatever, it's not like you can't sue us. I'm sure that's on excursion waivers. It's just that instead of a bumped knee, it's like eaten by a centipede. That's the difference here. But it's just phrased generally enough that the parents are like, yeah, it's like eaten by a centipede. That's the difference here. Yes. But it's just phrased generally enough that the parents are like,

yeah, that's fine, I get it. It covers everything. That school has a really good lawyer. Unless this is like this is the only school of its kind, which is like this is our selling point. So like the teachers and students and parents are all aware about this. Sort of like how some people, I don't know if it happens at like a 10-year-old, but they're like, well, we've got an excursion or like a school exchange program

where we can send these kids to like, I don't know, like an exotic foreign location for their education. Does that happen at like a primary school level where they might be like, well, send your kid to on a field trip to like Antarctica or whatever. No, not in like a primary school level Where they might be like We'll send your kid on a field trip to like Antarctica or whatever No not in like a primary school I feel like it's high school Unless you're in rich school

Like it's a private school No these kids don't look rich In It is middle class America I know in primary school Like when I was like It was generally You'd have to get also parents helping

So parents would come on excursions as well You don't need it because you've got a bus That is sentient. You need a certain number of adults and guardians for a certain level, like number of... I think it's one to five. I think the rest of the school is just too afraid of Miss Frizzle. Well, how many kids are in Frizzle's class?

Like 12 maybe? So that's not a lot. The bus is sentient. The bus is a person. And the lizard is basically a person. So there's three to 12. That's so odd. That's four a lot. The bus is sentient. The bus is a person. And the lizard is basically a person. So there's three to 12. That's not too bad. That's four kids each.

Yeah, that's fine. That's pretty reasonable. And I feel like Ralphie is probably also a tattletale-y kind of teacher's pet. He can look after the kids. Or is it like when the kid's going and talking to their parents, like, we did this? It's like, yes, yes. I'm sure you did.

Of course you went and saw real dinosaurs and were like, you know, almost ate by a millipede or like turned into a lizard. That was, I guess, I guess what. Got shit out of kids' butts. I'm sure you just were like, you know. Overactive imagination. Take your Ritalin, son.

Yeah, so like maybe they're watching a very basic documentary class. Wait, you were suggesting when I was like, once you leave that class, you leave it forever, you were like, well, it's a science teacher. Does that mean she's taking like prep kids on excursions? Oh, boy. Like six-year-olds? Yeah, but I reckon they'd be different.

They'd be different excursions? They'd be like the zoo. Just normal. Because like what's... Or she uses the school bus to bring things to them maybe. Ah, see, that's clever. She's like, I've brought her before dinosaur hit. Well, maybe not that because it'd die in our atmosphere,

but I brought something good that you kids can just... Maybe that's what she does and for, like, it's not until you get to grade four, so like the senior end of primary school, so four, five, six. Yeah, that's when she does and for like it's not until you get to grade 4 so like the senior end of primary school so 4, 5, 6 then you start to yeah because you wouldn't want to do that in prep because in prep you're like I'm learning to colour in

and how to be just maybe you don't do the excursions until you get to like an advanced level I think that's probably a reasonable way to do it because kids don't need if you're 2 you do not need to go to space you're not two in prep. In grade two. Well, you could be advanced for your age.

I think at the end of the day if I found out that my children were having these trips, I would take them out of that school. I think if I found out that my children were having those trips, I would go to school. I'll supervise this excursion. Are we going to space again, I would go to school. I'll supervise this excursion. Fuck you.

Where are we going, Mr. Fris? We're going to space again. I got my astronaut helmet. Well, we don't need it because you can't produce air or some shit. See? See? Let's go. Frizzle.

Look, I cut myself. Let's go inside me. Hop in. Come on. Hop in. No, wait. I want to be a pirate. I'll cut you.

I think this is going to lead. Can you cut your own child? Maybe. In my mind, he was cutting Miss Frizzle. No, no, no. No, it's darker than that. In my mind, I was cutting Miss Frizzle, but all right. Ralphie's sick.

Ralphie's sick. We have to go inside Ralphie. It turns into Munchhausen syndrome. Ralphie's sick. Ralphie's so sick. Ralphie, drink this bleach, Ralphie. What's wrong with Ralphie, everyone turns into Munchhausen syndrome. Ralphie, look how sick Ralphie is. Ralphie, drink this bleach, Ralphie. What's wrong with Ralphie, everyone? Get inside.

Let's see who's got to get the bleach out of Ralphie. Ah, Jesus. So in that case, Miss Frizzle's a hero because she identifies that one of her students' parents has Munchhausen's by proxy. Or just massive FOMO about her class. So it's a good educational tool. It's a potentially good educational her class. So it's a good educational tool. It's a potentially good educational tool.

It's a good educational tool. It's just not a healthy educational tool. It's wrought with problems. I have further questions that may be for another episode of the implications of this when you grow up. But I think that's for another day. And on that note, I've been Jackson Bailey. I've been Joel Zamet.

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