Plumbing the Death Star - Thunderbolts* Happened, Who's In The Avengers Now?

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

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grow and monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast.com Hey everyone and welcome to this week's episode of Plumbing the Death Star. I'm Joe. I'm Jackson. And I'm also Joe. And Plumbing the Death Star is a comedy pop culture podcast that asks the important questions and this week we're continuing our generational run. The Plumbing the Death Star is currently on. Will we ask? How would the Thunderbolts... What? How did you... Who is in Falcon's Avengers? Beautiful.

Falcon? You mean Captain America's Avengers? Yeah. Sorry. Who is in Captain Falcon America's Avengers? Falcon Punch. Falcon Punch! Beautiful punch Falcon punch Falcon punch drink that at a party. Yeah

You could generational run If you think seen if yeah, if you're fiend Thunderbolts, you know, Travis Scott, Fiend, I get it. I'm on the internet. Don't worry about it. I misspoke. I'm not actually going to continue that thread. Okay. Anyway, if you've seen Thunderbolts now, you know, if you haven't, then don't worry about it. But if you've seen it, you know that it is implied in the post credit scene that Sam Wilson AKA

captain America, AKA the Falcon has started his own Avengers and is suing Thunderbolts AKA the new event. Yeah. Would it, would it be better instead of cause like the title in itself is a spoiler of this episode if I instead say Who in the Avengers now? I know I'll try it again and just get let us know which take is better. Okay, we asked important questions Like who's in the Avengers now? Shall I take a crack? Well, we asked the important questions like who in the Avengers now? Yeah, you can pick and choose is choose your own adventure, but not really

Happened who's in the Avengers now? Yeah So good cuz this is higher. Yeah high pitch Thunderbolts happened higher Thunderbolts happened, But who's in the Avengers now? That's kind of, I don't know whose voice that is, but that's good. Yeah. Do you want me to do a bad Verna Herzog? Yes, please. Show me the blood. While you nailed it Okay Captain America's studying his own Avengers. Yeah, this got the boys thinking who is

So Captain America he picks up the front he goes we're assembling the Avengers. Yeah, who's he talking? So I mean out the gate. I'm thinking and man is around Wow Do we want to wind the clock back to look back at who was actually in the Avengers because Time to rewind the clock Some sushi and it it fucked me up. Yeah it did. That's awesome. I've eaten sour Ike and Mike's before.

Maybe that's what it was. I think that's it. We've had a huge sugar boost. Yeah. So because you're right, the Avengers, like other than the first initial team from- It's kind of loose on who's there and who's not and who's just helping. Two instances I can think where they go, these are the Avengers. And that is the Avengers in the movie Avengers.

Yep. And then also at the end of- In Age of Ultron. Age of Ultron where they go, Avengers and he's about to say assemble. Oh yeah, but that's a different team again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, you have the initial,

where they form at the Battle of New York. Yeah. Then you would have them as they're ranging around and that leads to Age of Ultron, right? Yeah. Where maybe they could say they're the Avengers, and maybe they're not, whatever, who cares? But then it's like that is a team and then the very end is another team Yeah, okay that team at the end is that the same team we see at the start of Civil War?

No, so the end of the team at the end if I can remember correctly Blows up a house yeah, it's Captain America Black Widow Falcon Scarlet Witch Hawkeye, Ultron. Ultron didn't join the team, babe. Just letting you know. I think you're gonna be son Vision. I'm being robot racist, I'm sorry. Vision's got three dads. You ever think about that? He does have three dads, dude. That's progressive as fuck. Do you most people get two dads, man? Okay, yeah the Avengers that we see all the dads and oh shut up

Hang on though Please do sure we let you do your fiend thing. You let you go fiend fiend fiend Yeah, please follow me and lighten us about what's the maximum amount of dads you can have define like what do you mean? Biological one don't just like are you talking like all right, so here's what I was thinking you got two dads Yeah, your dad's gay couple then they get a divorce. Yeah, then you get to Four dads. Yeah, okay. Okay, so then now the tricky thing is if Yeah, okay, okay, so then now the tricky thing is if New dad if old dad a new dad get divorced new dad is no longer dad. I reckon for

Yeah, you're right. I don't think you can get if like what if I have a stepdad Yeah, but if my mom divorced him if my mom left him then you know I just have a guy I know former dad. know. Former dad. Former dad. Is that where Foreman comes from? Yeah. So you have original, like you know, you're two dads and then they split up and then you have two more dads. Now say original dad, maybe he died.

Very sad. I'm giving myself a finger in this. Very sad. Then he marries someone else, a new dad. So I've got my, you know, these two, these like, Here's what happens. Stepdad doesn't lose stepdad title if your original dad dies. Cause that's just rude. But if stepdad gets new partner, you know, calling them dad, that's like uncle, which is fucked up, but it's pretty bad. They always do that

Yeah, we got we're doing that depends how like because again if they're together for like quite a while Yeah, and like in informative years and they were dad and like, you know, I got like, you know dad three or dad Yeah for what? Okay, so unless dad one and two split up and you're like three. Yeah, and then they marry again We're trying to get maximum dad. So I know we'll go Yeah, so say they split up when you're three years old so cuz if it's two So then you've got the four dads you've got the because also if I reckon if you go younger than three Yeah, the two because you're saying the two original dads don't count. No, no, no if you go too young Yeah, and one dad leaves the other dad. Yeah, then that dad that left was probably not a dad because it's a good through adoption

Oh true true true true true. We'll be through IVF IVF. Oh, yeah, even then yeah run out in an IVF And then the IVF sort of donor transitions three dads and Your two dads are like, please consider them a dad We want them in your life and then what if the sperm donor was a different person and not one of the dad, dude We're at four dads out the gate and now you can get six dads, bro And then if they all split no because that's where we took in dad to be like you see

Biological like that. I'm like, you know, that's where the sperm that comes from right or you being like who raised me Well, that's what I'm so okay. So you have to there's two guys I think Jackson's just going for whoever you could call that I'm going to get maximum dad So you got two guys who want to adopt a kid, but they got dot dud Packers. Yeah, okay So they need to get a sperm donor and a womb donor. Okay, and maybe also maybe an egg would help. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't just come to me. I'm an egg donor.

I would. So egg donor, sperm donor. Well, hang on. Hang on. Okay, you can do, yes, you could do egg donor, like a sperm donor and a surrogate. Okay, great. Okay, cool.

So that's three people. Three people, okay. You have two dads, you have three people. Okay, you two dads you have three people So we're five dads because if those two then the person you donated the Okay, cool five dad five dads now if those five dads marry five other men Hit a decade of that. Oh Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, hit a decade of that. Oh We are 10 dads or my boy I think maybe we could be pushing this because again when it comes to an egg donor sperm donor and maybe the surrogate

I feel you could not really paying much attention to the egg donor and the sperm donor ideally They see that done anonymously. Yeah, or it's done like in a very much like they are people that is helped out Yeah, same thing with like that and then the surrogate Maybe that might be someone, you know, okay, maybe but then again, that's that's a bit It's a bit if you don't know right. So again, I think you could have five potential dads there, you know Sure, we can do that. Yeah, then I just think the partner of the egg donor. Yeah, that's pretty far Pretty removed pretty removes. I don't know if we could do ten Pretty far removed. I don't know if we could do ten dads.

Well we could do five, so that's five and then your two, the dads that raise you, when you're like five, they break up and then they marry. We can get seven. So you can get seven dads. That's probably the maximum amount of dads. Anyway, so Nick Fury, Maria Hill, Helen Cho and Eric Selvig start the new Avengers with... Can I have a question? Yeah, who's Helen Cho? Yeah, I have the same question.

Yeah. Helen Cho is a geneticist that is helping... Iron Man? Um... Helen Cho, a world-renowned geneticist who helps... Okay. Okay. And she's a-

On the Avengers. She helps this native Ultron She's approached and brainwashed by Ultron to create a new body for him using vibe. Oh, she makes vision. Oh vision has Secret mom that we didn't know about. Well, I mean we do know about Three dads one mom. Yeah, damn dude, that's crazy. What happened to her? She just fell, slipped through the cracks between movies I'm guessing?

Yes, she has only appeared in Age of Ultron. Wow! But that shows, this is the part where Venge's start getting all fucked up. Yeah. Because, oh she's in Endgamegame apparently as a picture in a background scene awesome um yeah so this is where vengeance time the mcu timeline stops working yeah i mean i will say that iron man 3 is probably the point where it actually stops working because iron man Because I meant three and age of Ultron clash. Yes, but age of Ultron ends with The three the four like they're like behind the scenes guys. They're not like what you might yeah, they're like new shield

Yeah, yeah, so yeah Nick Fury Maria Hill Helen show Eric Selvig. Okay, you know Eric Selvig Yeah, yeah Iron Man quits the team. Okay. Yeah, huh and Clint retires. Yeah, huh. So then we have Steve Rogers. Mm-hmm and Natasha, yeah, they train the new Avengers Rhodes vision Sam Wilson and and wonder so war machine vision Falcon wonder what that's so we all machine. He was a scull for a bit now. He's better. No

Current time I jumped ahead. Yeah. Yeah, I love that team. Well the two leaders are dead. Yeah me or missing Well, the two leaders are dead. Yeah, or missing One is dead ones on the moon maybe scarlet which is crushed it and now alive in comic books. Yes. What what? Do you know know this about skull of which skull of which is alive in comic book? Yeah, bitch You got to listen to me Think I know what's going there's a comic book. I forget what it's called, but it's maybe called TVA and it's about the TVA and it's it follows I think Sylvie maybe or no, maybe Gwen Stacy anyway gambits in part of it Yeah, and it's got a bunch of the characters from that. They're like variants like what's going on and there's a panel where they go into

like a TVA Basement or some shit and scarlet witches is in a tube So she's still around of course, but she's in a tube. Okay. Okay. Okay. It was immediately confirmed That's not the MCU one. Oh, well never mind. It just had the same costume It's a variant. Yeah, yeah. I guess everything, anyway. Anyway, so, Skeletwood just crushed that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, when I said comics and Aunt DMCU, who was right? Me. Yeah. He didn't even wait for us to like answer him. In a way, I'm glad it would have been humiliating. Like, I thought, yeah, like, he's like, who was it? I was like, oh, this is gay. I'm gonna have to say you.

You're a humblebite. No, no, no. But he took it from me. Yeah in a way. I'm glad we should know this by now Maybe more insulting. We've been through this so many times Okay, yeah, yes any hooms. I gotta remember what I was saying. Vision shuffed off. Yeah, right Yeah, we know. Vision shuffed off into who knows where. He's up in the sky. So vision went up. Yeah Who knows where he's up in the sky. So vision went up. Yeah Falcons Captain America now He's yeah, and Rhodes is like just a little girl now. He's back Yeah, we haven't seen him since he was back. Okay, we don't know what state he's in because he was kidnapped from a hospital allegedly Yeah, yeah, so he was kidnapped after the Civil War like if the next time we heard about Rhodes They were like he's died. Yeah, that would probably be kind't feel weird. He can't walk right? We don't know

No, I don't I could not tell you kind of implied that his legs weren't Good, maybe but does that mean that a screw? So a scroll was impersonating Rhodes and rather than being like I got better had to fake a limp Well, oh parallel paralysis from the waist down. Yeah, I didn't watch Secret Invasion I Yeah, I watched it he It's confusing because like what we were just talking about with age of Ultron and Iron Man 3. Yeah, it doesn't really line up It's the same with how it doesn't really line up with the Marvel's like no say this this is the order in which the events happened. It's like yeah, but the characters don't act like yes

Yeah, so I think the director was like oh it happened after endgame And then the writer was like it happened after Civil War But then people were like oh after Civil War is bad because that means that a scroll mourns Tony Stark. Oh, yeah Yeah, but then they're gonna be like oh no, but the scroll has some fucking mind control thing So Rhodes like is in it'll be one of those things where it's like roadie actually got all the scrolls memories So he did mourn his friend or something. Yeah, you know, they'll loop I would rather he didn't and that could add some characters like yeah like because he'd be sad Anyway, whatever just have it that he was going to get like a fucking a scan a scan and they kidnapped him

Yeah, he's or he's like he needs constant like maintenance to make his like Hmm. Yeah, I mean like have it happen off the end game. Yeah, yeah, cuz it's weird I don't want to fucking address Tony sucks death again. Yeah Like I liked that he died I do not like his character And I hate that I have to keep thinking about it because everyone's like man I wish Tony was here why it was a rich piece of shit. Yeah, dude Captain America is someone you should mourn Now that's a guy now though. That's tight. Yeah The else I like that maybe a Skrull was with Gamora on that planet and went back in time and said yeah, dude. That's awesome

Yeah Anyway, the Avengers team we then see next Actually, this isn't any new people but it's the same team but then minus a few for some reason Yeah, it's got which explodes those boys. So it's Steve Rogers Black so Captain America Black Widow Falcon and Wanda Scarlet Witch. Yeah, why is he event? What happened to the other people? Why do you keep changing? And then by end game I guess and like infinity war that's the next definitive Avengers

Well, you know, but infinity war that's where it gets tricky. There's a bunch of people on Avengers, but just help out the avenger. Yeah, like Ant-Man is never an Avenger is doctor strange I've heard of like yeah, like the Civil War stuff happens where there's two different teams. Oh, yeah, fuck those Either of them Avengers are there no Avengers in Civil War? Well, there's Avengers at the start. Yeah, they do. Yeah, that's true. And so either way to and then Eventually, this is fast forward. There's a lot of crap. Yeah. Yeah fast forward to then New world order. Yeah brave new world was it called again new world order new world order No, brave new world brave new world Captain America America

Where Cap America? President Hulk he's like we got to get the Avengers back together. Yeah, he's like yes. Yeah good idea Doesn't he say who what Avengers or some shit like basically, but he's like he's Kind of like hey, you know, I've been thinking we should get in together, you know, we have we got no vengeance We call get the vengeance. We got it. Just what? Fantastic fourship comes through the sky Like this idea. Yeah, it's like, you know, he's percolating have a big thing But then he become Hulk and then like that I guess, you know

Avengers dude, cuz I cannot fight the Hulk. Yes, you're kidding because at the start of infinity war They don't know that it's such a big deal, so maybe that is the captain that should be the last vengeance We look at sure yeah, okay. Who's in that doesn't matter. Yeah, that is a bit why well cuz No longer exist yeah, I know I know they know America Grab it from me whoever it was but like we're gonna grab Falcon He's his buddy. Yeah, that one in who else you gonna grab but like What about I'm trying to think of like people that are like spider-man? Yeah, no one knows him

No people know spider-man there's no Peter Parker. We've been through this Make any sense, but that's okay. So I guess he could grab spider-man. Yeah, but thing is Have a relationship with spider-man enough never relationship with anyone that's my point Oh, really that's where we like who he's avenges. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. That's the question. I'm asking well It's a question. We're all asking the title of the episode. Yeah when you really think It's a question. We're all asking the title of the episode. Yeah, when you really think Yeah, well yeah, but like I am in didn't know these pieces of shit It's government. It's not government sanction. So there's no shield backing. Well, it's it's government. I mean, it was government.

Yeah, but the president was became a jail. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. President President. If it's because it was the prison president, a bunch of people saying no. Yeah. The people that were on the Captain America side of civil war be like, fuck the fuck the

government. Yeah, we've known because I've tried this before. Yeah. But is it still government. Yeah. We've known it. Cause I've tried this before. Yeah. But is it still government? Thunderbolts is also not like is government, but isn't government because it is though, but it's run by someone who wants to overthrow the government. Yeah. But no, but at the end of Thunderbolts, they know that it's not government cause they're being sued by the actual Avengers. Well, they're being sued by Sam Wilson. So in American justice, but it's Sam Wilson. That's a civil matter. But Sam, well, here's the question about Sam

Wilson. He's the president's bodyguard. Basically he was that president's in jail. He didn't do a good job. The president now, I don't know. And you're going to say, does it matter? And the answer is yes. Big time. Why would it matter because it depends on their relationship well because I cuz we know we know cuz you've seen Thunderbolts Yeah, which is a huge flex. Yeah, we know The D fontaine is a sack of shit. Yeah, and the G should be in prison, but she tricked everyone bolts know that too Resolve whether or not she got impeached though. No, they didn't get impeached because she wouldn't be giving a press conference being that she's announcing a team.

She didn't get impeached because there was nothing to find. And the evidence that that was going to be, hey, this is a problem. Is the Vengeance. Well, yeah, it would have been the Thunderbolts that would have given her, like, you know, they would have given testimony and Bob who would have given testimony They have not given testimony because they live now in the Avengers tower. Yeah now owned by the CIA Yeah, which is the US government? US government owned the US government selling its suing itself no no Wilson but Sam Wilson is an independent Yes, but Captain America

Money America the mantle is owned by the government that's in Captain America fall and in the other Captain America's That's why Captain America become no man But Sam Wilson is the man is suing the team Avengers It's like if we for somehow got around Disney's like trademark We did! The show's called Plumbing the Death Star! Let me finish, cunt! It's like if we somehow traded, marked Plumbing the Death Star

or copyrighted it as ours and then we decided for some reason the American government, we're American for some reason then decided to buy Disney so America owned Disney and then they were like, we're doing something called plumbing the best start. And we're like, no, we American government the American government currently have some team called the avengers. Yeah. And which

is it's, it's the thunderbolts. Now Sam Wilson as an, as a Sam Wilson individual, not as an individual, because he's like, I was on the Avengers. And as like, you know, as the last remainder, like a remaining member of that, you know, I'm- But Bucky was on the Avengers. Yeah, no. So maybe he just got in there quick to the patent office and was like, I'm going to quickly patent this. Yeah.

No, I'm going to patent this. It's crazy the American government did not have the patent for the Avengers. Bucky wasn't in the Avengers. No, he was. So yeah, he probably would have gone to like some sort of copyright thing The American government did not have the patent for the Avengers. Bucky wasn't in the Avengers. No, he never was. So yeah, he probably would have gone to like some sort of copyright thing and been like, can I go on to quickly copyright the Avengers? He's copyrighted it.

And Sam Wilson's been like, I am Captain America, which is maybe owned by America, the government. By the same time, I'm also, you know, suing like the event, the new Avengers because they don't have the rice to that name That's not yours to have that's not yours to give that's a crazy thing for him to do Yeah, he's gonna do the courts are gonna eat him alive. I think necessarily the epic he's fighting the US government Yeah, yeah Yeah, dude. Yeah

Optics are terrible. That's crazy. his odds! Either way, optics are terrible. That's crazy. And like the court of public opinion, who knows what's going on? Because it depends what the new avengers have done. Yeah, that is true. That's a crazy decision. The American justice system, as I am led to believe, is like, yeah, you can kind of sue anyone for anything in a weird way, because again, that's a civil case. But nothing to do with in a weird way. Yeah, and that's a civil case but nothing to do with like Do you think if you were ant man? Yeah, and and they in again, I'm not a lawyer correct me if I'm wrong

But I think I might be I'm pretty sure it's a civil thing not a federal thing Captain America says you can join my team I'm suing the American government if I was a man. I would be like let's pick a different name We don't have to be the Avengers. What what about we just drop the uh yeah let's just be the Avengers actually think it probably is not such a big deal they can be the Avengers that's fine yeah is it just for the brand recognition yeah and maybe as like the Avengers you maybe get some perks like maybe you could live in the tower now no maybe he wants live in the tower now. No, maybe he wants to live in the tower But the tower is like it's just like a public building because Avengers also is that was the weird thing here because the Avengers were always privately owned Yeah, it was privately funded really by Tony Stark. Yeah

Avengers a shield But a Tony Avengers tower was owned by Tony star. Yes. He owned the property Yeah So that was such as he owned the tower so they so but the maybe the facility out and no but then D Fontaine Bought the tower. Yeah Now well the American government because clearly she probably bought it with government funds Yeah, I mean she is the whole okay. Here's what I think may have happened. Yes She no longer is part of the CIA. Yeah, because she's got what she wants now. She has superhero team

Yeah, so it's like a Nick Fury if you hated Nick Fury, but you had to work for Nick Fury Yeah, she leaves CIA. why would she's a director of Yeah, why would you give that she's a position? I don't know Why you getting rid of that one is if you're getting pitched or yucky you step down or you're yeah Yeah, I guess by the sitting president. Yeah, who is question mark question Who was president Hawks vice President? We don't know. Has another four years passed. We don't know either.

No, we know that only 14 months have passed. Oh that's true, yeah we do. You have one president who was like, let's kill all aliens. Yeah. And then he got voted out to be President Hulks. And President Hulks first, cause he got asked in his first 100 days,

right? Yes. Yeah It's a bad look for the American okay, so you got asked first hundred days. Yeah gone and the vice president stepped in Okay, who we don't know. Yeah, then We don't because then Thunderbolts is probably happening within that administration. Yeah, all right I would imagine and then we have like a flash forward to 14 months. Hmm So it is a potential there's an election coming up. Yeah, but I don't think the president's changed I think it was over the vice president of president Hulk. Yeah, if I was president Hulk Thunderbolt Yes, Thunderbolt. Yeah, who would I be choosing? Like what kind of person would I've gone with in terms of like?

Yeah, my president. I'm honestly surprised I didn't do like Fontaine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me too. I don't know if that's what she's gunning for. If they're going to do president Fontaine at some point in the future. I don't know. It's bizarre. I mean, to look at the politics of the MCU. I mean, we've done it a million times, but it is truly. And also they don't have enough time to establish anything anyway. Yeah Fantastic for yep, which isn't out yet, but he's close and That doomsday and secret wars and brand new day. Oh, yeah, maybe spider-man will meet the new president. Maybe Maybe he'll be happy. I'm guessing spider-man not on Sam's Vengeance

Yeah, he's the only people that spider-man has met in the Venge's yeah, I'm kind of be like, you know, not just like you know In a big fight. Yeah, the very end of endgame is like all the people who met the airport That's true and dr. Strange and dr. Strange. Yeah, he goes to space with dr. Strange Yeah, he met the people in the airport and Bucky strange. Yeah So but Sam Wilson knows about spider-man Why no, I know. Sam Wilson's on spider-man's team Yeah No, they fight no

No, cuz spider-man is on Ironman's team. Yeah, yeah, and Sam Wilson is never gonna be on a team. Steve Rogers is not. That's true So Steve and Sam are on Steve Rogers is not. That's true. So Steve and Sam are on that team. But so he would know about Spider-Man. Do you think if you were making it Avengers you would put Spider-Man on it? No, he's too young. Yeah, he's a kid. I'm like, I'm not like what Tony. I'm not Tony Yeah, I don't want to put like a high schooler or fresh out of high school, you know kid on a team Tony you're fucked. I was I had it in my head wrong And for some reason I thought that the two Ironmans and the two Captain Americas were on opposite partners

Yeah, but they didn't know it all roads was team Ironman and Wilson was team. Yeah So Peter is friends with the people on this team. He doesn't care about these guys What's Peter Parker gonna talk to vision about nothing do they got nothing in common roads Yeah, nothing. Shala to chala, especially that guy's a prince Then Natasha Natasha is gonna be like you're a horny fucking 14 year old kid. Yeah I'm gonna ruin this she'll be like I've just ruined this boys life by existing

yeah the other team now they're the guys that Spiderman should be friends with yeah dude Clint? Clint and Spiderman dude Clint and Scott? they'd be fucking they'd be yucking it up

yucking up a storm dude Peter would be like woah movies and Scott would be like yeah I watched movies when I was in prison. I like Star Wars 2 kid. Yeah exactly. I'm thinking yeah you're Sam Wilson you now have like well that's it sucks because like you know President Hulk told me to put together a team and they just gone done it rude. I put my own team we're gonna call ourselves like the real Avengers. Yeah. And then I'm gonna take you to court. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Yeah who's he who's he going for cuz I'm guessing he's gonna choose his buddy Ramirez who is Falcon. Yeah, he's got that America Falcon, I'm guessing I'm gonna go well Bucky's on the

team dude, yeah, fuck dude. He's like hey Bucky The Avengers Mad at me. Oh Wait, he's Bucky in that post credit scene. Yeah, yeah talks to Sam. He's like he's like I've talked to Sam I am on the offensive. You're mad at me. Oh yeah, fuck I am! Wait, is Bucky in that post credit scene? Yeah, he said he talks to Sam. He's like, I've talked to Sam. Oh yeah, that's right. He's the one who brings it up.

What about Hulk? Hulk, I would say Hulk could potentially be on that team. But Hulk, the problem is... Is Hulk Professor Hulk still? Yeah, because he's got his horrible son. Yeah, but... I got my horrible son, I got to deal with him and now like I don't I'm a dad now I don't want to be there. I think that's a weird problem. Is it all of Sam Wilson's choices after? Yeah, well, they're just all kind of retired. They're in the twilight game. You see the Hulk twice three times

Yes twice. Yes. Well, sorry in two different things. Yeah one time. Yeah, he's still professor hulk the other time. He's not When's he not professor hulk? Well, you wouldn't know this I haven't seen it are the end of junkie. Yeah, but is he not professor hulk He doesn't say much. What does he was not he's he's smart. He's just Bruce rattle, but yeah, he's ominous like if that would have been a Long time ago. Yeah. Timeline wise, right? Well, no, that's after end game.

Yeah, but the most recent one is Professor Hulk. Yeah, that's after end game. Yeah. I know. And comes back with his son. Shang-Chi, then he goes space. When does he go space? Well, he goes because he's still recovering from end game clicking.

Yeah. Oh, that's right. He goes space to get his son. And, he goes space to get his son. And then he goes space to get his son, and that's while She-Hulk is happening. Yeah. And in that time he's, I guess, you know. It hurts his arm. Well no, his arm gets healed.

He's not in a sling anymore. Cause you know, space is good for your bones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me go to space. He's not in a sling at the start of She-Hulk anyway, cause he teaches She-Hulk how to fight. She-Hulk gets, cause She-Hulk becomes She becomes she Hulk because of Hulk. Yes, that's drinks his blood Dracula I think he just gets a bit in him You know the other way around Hulk blood is fucking

Either way car accident she gets a bit of whole blood she'd come a she-hog Yeah, well that's happening is like I would love to help you out, but I've heard I got a son Maybe yeah, he goes to space he comes back He takes the whole like run of she-hog of going to space yeah and back again because that's what he does now He's like I have a thing I guess my dude., he look at him. Look at his, look at my son. Oh God, it's now fucked up his head. Yeah. So badly. The other team that we know exists, we've seen it is what people thought was the young Avengers. Yeah. But is that young Avengers? Maybe just Sam Wilson's Avengers. Who is in the younger? How we've, what do you mean? We've seen it.

We've seen the recruitment process Oh, yeah, that is happening. Miss Marvel goes against Hawkeye Sorry does In universe, there's got to be many people who've like I'm so sorry. I met you as Falcon. So I'm gonna keep calling Yeah, that's gonna fuck him up all the time. I'm so sorry. You are Captain America I mean people mostly just call him Sam Okay, Sam, you know The Sam know like ms. Marvel

No, I don't know when they would have met Kamala and I guess probably like so I'm no bit. I'm Sam I'm putting together the yeah. I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go to Clint Barton. Yeah, Clint join my team. No, I'm retired Yeah, but I'm training up this other Okay, she is Kate says I'm already on the Young Avengers. It's like oh That team Sam is Marvel. Is it? No, it's not miss but you're the most wrong Who gets recruited? Yeah, so Sam what TV where do you think in what situation? Yeah Yeah, is Miss Marvel recruiting Kate Bishop what she wants to put together a team with series what movie I don't remember

Yeah Yeah, it's all subjective here, right no I'm imagining a scene yeah Kate Bishop has recruited miss Marvel that is a scene We've seen yeah Kate Bishop has recruited ms. Marvel that is a scene We've seen yeah, so who's putting that together? Well, I don't know I think it'd be yeah, I think I'm crazy now Yes, they're like it's not Sam Wilson Sam Wilson has a third Avengers and there's three vendors running. Yeah, there's unless that is what's happening Yeah, exactly. They we have young Avengers. We got new Avengers and we got the original Avengers. God damn. When you coke in this.

Yeah, you want your good Avengers. Yeah, introduce the new Avengers. So the old Avengers is the original recipe. I should watch all of phase four and five. Yeah. I just ruin your brain. Fuck your life right up. So my bringing it back. Yeah. Would be just Sam Wilson being like,

Oh my God, that sucks. I want to make that. I was going to be in charge of that. So let's see your Sam Wilson in the current state of the MCU that we have only seen, we can have some subject to like to accept the whole point. He would be like, cool. We're getting Ramirez. He's Falcon. We've got two in the team. Ant-Man. He would go to Ant-Man. Yeah, he knows Ant-Man He'd be like Ant-Man. Do you want to be on my team and man could be like, oh, yeah sure brother Or he could be like, I'm really don't die. Can't be all the things that happen in quantum mania. I can't deal with that That's very funny. He's like I let out a hang dude He's gonna fuck the world up and then it's like no, it's actually not a big deal

And then it's like no it's actually not a big deal Hey Jackson, I would just like to formally apologize have I been right the whole time yeah Marvel's putting together the team So I guess Sam is built putting together a third vengeance Yeah, because she ain't going she ain't going to Sam no cuz that's so funny because um Yeah, Kamala Mrs. Being in the marvels so she's putting together a team. That's very funny. Okay, so maybe you've got how does she know about Kate though? Just from the paper well well hang on a second Kingpins, New York Kingpins, New York You think the people are talking about Hawkeye? No, you're right. Not Kingpins, New York

She's in Queens, like Queens, right? She's the stepdaughter of what's his name Yeah, yeah, Swordsman John Swordsman She's in Queens, right? Or whatever it is Which is very close, I'm led to believe Close to New York Queens wouldn't be

Or she's in Jersey Whatever, they're both suburbs Close to New York. Yeah, so Queens wouldn't be Whatever they're both either way of New York because you see her dad as a bank guy talking to Matt Yeah, and so like, you know that he's in New York Kate's in New York. She's in New York Tell me He is my time and this is a very basic speculators more like a sister show baseless speculation Yes, but I reckon we're gonna get a young Avengers made up of TV characters Yeah, and then well cuz the scene that you remember correctly also references a movie character whomst Cassie Cassie Lang Cassie Lang. Cassie Lang.

Ant-Man 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah. IA. Statue. Yeah. Terrible name. Her name's Statue? Yeah, it sucks, dude.

Awful name for superhero. Okay, so you get fucked it up. I think we got the, I think we got Young Avengers are a separate thing. Sam ain't coming, Sam ain't doing that. Sam's not doing that. But then it's so weird if Sam, so who is Sam got? But it's so- Sabre is putting together the young Avengers is saber

Doing is save a US government who's a bus Nick Fury Fuck is saber right now. It was in space. It was space. Why the fuck are they putting together a teenage team for space? What the fuck ship are they running? It's also fucked up if Sam Wilson goes to Ant-Man and says you want to join my old Avengers and then Ant-Man's daughter He's like I'd love to punch my daughter. Yeah, my daughter's actually young Avengers right now Well look Cassie is probably doing that in secret. Yeah Is Sabre the government? Is Sabre the government is a great question

And which government? Yeah, cause it's it's space It's it's fucking Nick Fury, but he doesn't belong to shield anymore cuz she doesn't exist Yeah, or does it know cuz it's shield Bible the heli characters falling yeah, so space Space is owned by no one yeah, it's fine frontier. They have that big laser grid around there was sword Yeah, that Is sword saber no well saber is the continued? No, isn't sword isn't sword a continuation of the corrupt shield, so it's like government-owned shield

Oh, yes, just saw it is like fucked in the head. Yeah swords are the they're like the bad guys Yeah, it was Marvel. No, no Fucking clean up crew or whatever. Yeah The guy a clean up crew No, you're thinking or whatever. Yeah, what is that guys in one division? Yeah, and then they put a lady Rambo Yeah, they put they ran they ran Rambo through the yeah through the dome. She become photon Yeah, and then they're like damn I wanted to to kill a kid this photon work for saber. Yeah, well photons in x-men now. Yeah So she works for no one

Is looking after yeah, she went through another hall If she hadn't gone to x-men, I'm pretty sure Sam would have tried to recruit her. Yeah. That's just, well, no, he's looking for her. That's how Ms. Marvel ends. He's like, fuck. No, sorry. Nick. Nick Fury is looking for a photo. Sam's going to be like, Hey Nick, where's photo? He's like, I'm looking for it. Sorry. Is Sam going to be hitting up Nick? Well, Nick's starting his own Avengers again. With young people. With young Avengers.

No, is it fucking, oh no it's- Why is, why is- Is it roadie or sat- no it's roadie. Who's, cause yeah it's Rhodes. Rhodes cracks the shits with Nick Fury. Yeah. In Secret Invasion. As Rhodes or as the Skrull?

No, as the Skrull. So it doesn't mean shit. It doesn't mean shit It doesn't mean shit, but also it's like a racist thing Sorry, the conversation is not racist It's about racism So it's crazy that a scroll delivered that That's nuts

That's like the only good scene from Secret Invasion Yeah Okay, I'm Sam Wilson, let's just Isaiah Bradley? Maybe But he tried to kill the president, but the president was a Hulk. Yeah. But it was also proven that he was being mind controlled by the leader and also the secret service also tried to kill the president. Granted the whole it was a Hulk at the time. Yeah. And he went in jail. Also, if you want to know, if you're

talking about killing presidents, Bucky, who is also a new Avenger and a Senator, I don't know if that's like, I don't know if killing the president or attempting to kill a president is kicking you off a superhero team sponsored by the president. Iron man suit almost killed a different president. One. Say it's the 1960s. I'm hanging out with JFK. I've got I've won the special tour of the White House in a fucking Kit Kat and then JFK

pulls a gun on me. Yeah. Can I fight back? What do you mean? Yeah. If I shoot the president in self-defense because he pulled a gun on me. Hey, brother, if the president president's pulling a gun on you, it does not matter. Yeah. What your next decision is. Your life is fucked. He's got a secret service who will then also

fire on you the moment you have drawn that gun. So if I'm in the motorcade, yeah. JFK turns around and says lights out pal But I stab him in the neck. Yeah Yeah, like you like look people will look at that Maybe like it's crazy that our president hated that man and decided that that moment was the time to like took him on the motorcade To end his life, but you did kill him in self-defense, but in the confusion you did get shot by the city 40 bullets Back of the head yeah shelf the fence. I am Sam Wilson I'm like I was I was gonna make a team

There's not another group I am Sam Feel like I'm just bailing out water Sam Wilson. I feel like I'm just pailing out water right now. Just trying my damn... I'm Sam Wilson. I want to go to get... I know of superheroes around, okay? Either I've known them personally or I've just heard about them. Who do I think should I involve in my team? Because I know... Okay, I got... We know he has Falcon. We can lock that one in dude. Ramirez is there. Yeah. Okay. John, next thing. Maybe he's like, okay, I do need a super soldier. Maybe he does go to space. See a Bradley to be like, well, if they're new Avengers, we're old man Avengers probably Bradley question. I just thought about this because who else has he hung out

with in recent times? Baron Zemo. OK, get Zemo on the team. What are you doing? What are you doing? I mean, he has those superpowers. Yeah, but he did prove that he was pretty useful against people who were superpowers. And Sam Wilson does know the power broker. So maybe the power broker can't. But the thing is, Baron Zemo would not want that.

No. So he could go. He could go Doctor Strange with Doctor Strange in a hole. Doctor Strange is now with Clee in a hole. Unless they're off the table unfortunately. Yeah yeah yeah. Was Doctor Strange leading the event? No Sam is leading.

Don't ask questions. Do you want a real? I need to put the... Doctor Strange! I need to scoop the water out Okay, I don't put anything it in so do you want a real quick rundown? Like really quick. Yeah, I mean like rapid fire where people are currently yeah Ant-man earth fine yeah, Peter quill earth living with granddad

Let's not get too excited. Let's just go through these fuck. I saw the wrong spot Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah's a cookie chung chui yeah yeah is there another person in that meeting I know okay well I mean he is friends with Awkwafina but is there another vent I don't think so brother you haven't seen the movie yeah yeah it's just I got excited screaming long long could be a part of the team. Yeah. Well he is the sorcerer. So it's very useful to have. Well he's still around. He's not in a hole. He's in the hole.

So he's like, oh, I know. Okay. Sam's like, I like he goes to Wong. He's like Wong. Okay. Hey, where's where's Steve? Very quick brother. He's in a hole with clay. I mean like time free. Do you want to be a part of the vendors?

We need a source of supreme. He's gonna bring one is their friend Stephanie or whatever name is The Thunderbolts if you're a soprano. Yeah, what's her name? Why would you think I'd know that do yeah, fair enough? Well, yeah, well, it's gonna say if the new Avengers if they've got Bob they can have Stephanie. Yeah, it's not Stephanie Heather Rachel no, it's a silly name cuz it's spelled funny Zephyr. Okay. Yeah, if they've got okay if they can have Bob who is not a really super-powered individual Well, he is but he's not using his power

They can have Zephyr and she can go and do like, you know, yeah be like, you know Chill chill around the house eating Cheetos. You're having a great time You gotta have one of them. You gotta have somebody eating Cheetos and your revenge is taken. Exactly So we got Zephyr, Sam's got Zephyr and the t-bolts they got Bob. Perfect. Okay, now who else? He's being consumed by who what this person's name is nevermind. No, no, no, no, no, no, we're still going Eternals who was left on earth Kingo? Sprite and Kingo. No, well, wait, no, no, no, we're still going. Yeah, Eternals who was left on earth Kingo sprite and Kingo No, well, wait, were they the only two? Yeah, Kingo look so it's only sprite then it's just right Who's a person sucked off into space? Yes, damn. Why ripped a kid?

Did you know cuz some of them left and the others got sucked off into that? Yeah, the ones that Fox so the ones that got sucked off. Yeah, so there's some on a ship Yeah, you know, he's on a ship. No, no, but the others did they get sucked off into... So there's some on a ship. Yeah, thena is on a ship. No, no, no, but the others, did they get sucked off? They got sucked off by a... Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they're like, judgment day is coming. But did Arisham put them back on Earth after that? No, we don't know yet. Mom said no gays allowed in the house.

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One, uh, Ned is a wizard. That doesn't remember he's a wizard or does Ned remember he's a wizard. Ned isn't a wizard yet. He just can know spells. Maybe it's just inherent. He has the ability to cast spells. He made fucking portals. Yeah.

I can't do that. Yeah, I know. But like he wasn't he like Peter can't do that. Wasn't he? He had the, he had the sling ring. Yeah. Yeah. But, I know but like he wasn't he like Peter can't do that wasn't he had that he had the sling Ring. Yeah. Yeah, he also they say he's got spells. Yeah, but he's not he's not a wizard. He's not a full wizard No, he's he's actually more of a sorcerer until the night Ned and one comes out. Yeah, exactly. So like Ned he hasn't got his magic power He just has them through

Worry about that Maybe needs to go to that place with that minute or was beautiful He just has them through Dr. Strange yeah Wong fine. Yeah, it could be like in that Temple or whatever. Yeah, maybe that they were training a bunch of wizards. Yeah. Yeah, we got so much to get through Dr. Strange he's in the hole with cleavage Wong is it's also supreme is hanging out in she Hulk. Yeah. Yeah, Thor love and thunder Thor not on earth How's it kid now? Yeah, everyone else. Yeah. Yeah sure black panther to child are dead Shuri is the new black panther. She's on earth. Yeah T'Challa dead Shuri is the new Black Panther. She's on earth. Yeah. Yep

That's it name was there name was there he was bad, but now he's around still. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Wanda's dead. Yeah vision went up. Uh-huh Falcons Captain America Winter Soldier is Loki's a tree hawk I retired is young venger yes maybe yeah cool saber huh we're in the weeds moon night who fun you know moon night many different personalities yeah join the venue that's funny what hey here's a pitch. There's three vendors teams. He's got three personalities. Which one gets the cab driver? Yeah. But then also some of the young, like, I mean like

he could do on your join all three. That's a good gag. But what happens as look, maybe some of the 17 moon nights I don't know what he's up to at the end of moon year. Brother, it's been so long. Ethan Hawke died. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Doesn't he uncover a new personality? Yeah, the cab driver. I haven't seen it.

The cab driver is there and then he shoots Ethan Hawke, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah. Because like, I think oh, okay Like I think he's like I need to chill or whatever Yeah, and like I don't need to deal with you know all that bullshit or like I turn the other cheek kind of stuff Whatever I don't need to kill Ethan Hawke. I say his cab drivers like oh fucking ruin you mate Okay, Rob bang bang maybe speaks in a Bronx accent. I took a tattoo Remember not me

Okay, so moon nine is still working for cons you That's the Egyptian God. I thought that was another government run in my head. I went like K Fuck does Okay, that's the Driver still working America or the UK? No, okay, that's the adept you got all right because the cab drivers still working The UK British museum You travel okay, he brought me Marvel. She went to space now. She's back. She's recruiting Cape Bishop. Yes, and Cassie line. Yeah, mhm, Sabre

Anything else in ms. Marvel worth noting no no Photon is in x-men. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's wait first Yeah, no, that's yeah, that's the Marvel She hulk she hulk surrounds around he's a lawyer Abomination he's around he runs a retreat. Yeah, what? Yeah, he's all that's right, but then she doesn't fight him. She goes into Disney Plus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mbaku's also around with him. And Riri Williams. Yep.

Ironheart. Oh yeah. She's young, then just surely. I would imagine. But she hasn't met anyone. No, but she might in her TV show. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Plus like, you know, they need a tone. Yeah, exactly. They need a mech guy. She's young. They've got a mech guy Rhodes But younger young are not young Avengers. No, it shouldn't be young Wait is Distracted I thought comes out in June, which is maybe this month. Fuck! Okay, what next?

I miss when I was thinking about Wong. Same! Werewolf by night? Man thinks kicking it around. Man thinks kicking back and so is... So is Elsa Bloodstone. Man was meant to be in Thunderbolts. Isn't that crazy?

Yeah, they were like, would be cool to have him in Thunderbolts, but that also wouldn't make sense with the plot. If Fontaine's like, I need to kill Manthing. He's another project we need to get rid of. Anyway, that's my bad. I put water back in the boat. No, no, no, that's okay. Because he's in a...

He's... he wasn't available for Thunderbolts because he's in another property. Oh hot dog. That's right May think coming back man thing on Sam Wilson's team lock it in. Mm-hmm Sam Wilson Falcon man thing Jack Russell. Okay, we got a full We've got a werewolf a swamp a bird and a shield. What more do you want? It means back Peter quills back spaceman. Yeah, IMan's back. Peter Quill's back. Spaceman. Agatha's dead? Wicked. Wicked's gonna be the Young Vengeance.

Captain Marvel's in space. Photon's in Axeman. And Ms. Marvel's in Young Vengeance. Deadpool and Wolverine? Doesn't matter. Sam's not getting them. Not part of that reality Sam's not getting them Not part of that reality

Not part of our reality Because that whole thing is about to be pruned or whatever But not anymore No, but now they just live in Deadpool realm Don't worry about it Stop thinking about it You're thinking about it, stop it Secret invasion? What's her name? Yeah, yeah, don't worry about stop thinking about okay. You think it about stop secret invasion

What's her name? She's the multi scroll she's got an arm that's just got an arms that strikes us all yeah too little yeah, but tattooed So it's not those tattoos. Yeah, no that powers their power the tattoo comes from his powers make sure what about Nick fears in space Everyone else is dead. Yeah, so I guess you could do yeah, I mean the scrolls dead. Yeah. Yeah Well, Amelia Clark is the Super Scroll who's she fight? That's also the Super Scroll because remember it's too So I know yeah, but now you're the Super scroll again. Also, you've got um, oh, yeah Mendo's dead. I know yeah, but now you're the little yeah, she's the last super scrawl again. Also you've got um oh yeah

Men those dead. Oh, yeah, what's the name Coleman? Coleman Olivia Coleman. She's British Nick Fury. Yeah, she's maybe actually British D Fontaine. Oh, yeah She's a bad guy and also Maria Hill's dead. Yeah, they did a lot in secret invasion, but they did it bad. Yeah Co she's She's still around she's done dead, but was she still around yeah, she's still around. Yeah, she's not dead over. She's still around She's watching the news beard like I thought I shot that in the head Oh fuck dude, Kingfeng owns New York

Fuck I am Sam Wilson I want to make Avenger I have my buddy Ramirez, he is Falcon So we have Bird, we have Shield, okay, sick We got Daredevil as well. Where what can why does he have dead of no?

We as in your eyes around he's around okay, okay? I am Sam Uh-huh, I have connections is with military uh-huh, and I and I'm a road so you're so Rose I also have connections in just like as being cat America. I'm a good speech boy Uh-huh, so I like to talk to people some of them. I'm a very people person. So I can have a good with chats. So, so, so who, so who's he getting? Good. He's going to get Rhodes. He's like Rhodes. I always put together a team. They're besmirching Tony's good now I'm making a new event. I am. We have shield. We have bird and we need Mac. Yeah. get in Charlie the sort of impetus for this Avengers Is he's like the president became a Hulk? Yeah, and he's like that happens again

We're gonna kill the president. I spoke to him. I talked him down, but brother I got shit not easy Kick the out of me. So probably he's gonna he's also he does have friends in Wakanda Yeah, so so sure he could be on his running Wakanda Okay, no, she's not what do you who's running Wakanda? Doesn't she give it up to be the Black Panther? No, that's Doesn't it run it now? I thought you could be the the the raining like I've royalty and also Be the Panther And also the be the panther

New eggs well the others have done so Boku steps forward Little boy yeah And they're doing time jumps yeah Boys now young Avengers Black pants on yeah He's a young avenges black black pants. Yeah To what he's too salt to salt but his Wakanda name is to true to talk To probably five Sam Wilson I try and get the Hulk. Yep, but the Hulk has a boy

So so the Hulk could be like well my boy and son Honestly, if you're fucking if you call it up Hulk you might as well fucking get Get you get his cousin have three Hulks. Yeah, I was thinking if I was if I was putting together team Yeah, I just get three Hulks. Yeah Three Hulks call up your good friend the president, get a red hulk. Four hulks. The problem that I faced was a red hulk, right? The problem I had was a hulk and I'm but a bird. So if I had three hulks fighting one hulk, and now I have four hulks.

Four hulks. Cause like, president hulk can learn to control it. Yeah. Okay, so this is the team it. Yeah, okay Captain America Falcon yeah, man thing. Yeah werewolf by night. Yes Hulk Hulk Hulk. Oh, yes Oh four times Hulk. Yeah, man. We got we got so many damn Hulk. We got so we got a hulking Hulk we got we got Hulks. We got shield. Yeah, we got bird. We got dog We got swamp got hulks we got shield yeah, we got bird we got dog We got swamp okay, okay, okay? Yeah, okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was in the Avengers during the blip for five years. That's true

Okay, so is she back in like Wakanda doing Wakanda business? Yeah, but she was in re re Williams Maybe looking after yeah, I don't think you're getting ant-man back except maybe you will He's retired Peter quills looking for an adventure he wants to fuck yeah You get Peter quill dude for Peter quill Star Lord will return. Yeah, I'm just thinking about like he got like mad alien Hole, you know in space and now he's on earth Eating cereal at his granddad's house like I just mean like, you know, he gets on the apps or whatever I know that you are so excited waiting. He's waiting for the mutants to come He's like beast

More just has regular human Gomorrah sure, but he dated many other aliens. Oh you Yeah, that's right cuz at the start of God is the galaxy. He's like yeah, you just shine a torch And this is like a Jackson Pollock painting cuz he's been coming all over he's been coming like crazy But he's also really horny for human human characters cuz he wants to fuck Alyssa Milano so lame, dude Dude, I know that you're wasting it you you are the eternal optimist that alien genitalia is gonna be the best you've ever experienced But maybe human beings is actually the peak, but it'll just be different Yeah, but it's gonna be yeah, but you can fuck a hole in the ground that's different

Yeah, it's not like a like a person a dog tarantula woman. Don't quote me on that Just cuz I said you can fuck a dog doesn't give you permission to yes, you got that Cosmo dog. Yeah Like oh, yeah, you can fuck like oh yeah borat's daughter. Yeah crazy. Yeah If I fuck around maybe He's playing Xbox. I think all you guys got you got you as God good girl? You got Valkyrie? Yeah Lady Thor cuz she is in heaven kind of also could just have a for how from fucking magic Yeah, dude, but if you if you're doing magic, dude, if you're doing magic, you can have any of these guys Tony Starks there know but they showed her in heaven

Yeah, but they showed Tony Stark in no that was hot So yeah, how about okay? So what if it's like, okay? We'll just do like, you know very much like okay Well, maybe Sam is like I know what I had before and I want to have it again So I like like I'm Steve so I got the shield here the shield. Yeah, I was in it I got me again as bird over there. That's great. Okay, so He had the shield. I was in it. I got me again as bird over there. That's great. Okay, so Cool. We got like you weird without a Tony when we got we got roads basically the same

Fantastic. You're on the ship get in. Yeah Now we've got like okay Hawkeye sweet. Hey Hawkeye. Can you be in there? These are part of the vengeance like down got no borne arrow boy Yeah, so we need like a marksman. Is there any marksman around who's good at shooting? Boy, yeah, so we need like a marksman. Is there any marksman around who's good at shooting? In a bad way Is it bullseye or is it who has their back broken in daredevil? But nobody in the nobody in the new one. He throws bullseye off a building and Now he was in jail, but he got out and then he tried to shoot them He could have dead of all dead of all could be his Hawkeye equivalent. That's true. That's true

Crazy though, like if I was picking an avenge if I was Sam Wilson, right? Yeah, and I had been to space Yeah, okay And then it was like I need to pick a new team and they were like their devils got like heightened senses I would be like probably not stay in New York. Honestly, I'm getting Wong game on Wong. We need guys Let's see spider-man. I'm like, he's too young and but he has been to space But maybe I'm like but he was using his like Tony suits, and I don't have that anymore. Yeah Mommy feel that I don't know about spider-man. Yeah vision. I would like but I can't find I don't know where he's going No, motherfuckers in space. Yeah, so maybe either I go to new Asgard and I see what's going on get valkyrie either get valkyrie or maybe like

Aries or whatever like in the comics they get like incorporating Can't have more guys Actually, no, I'm getting Hercules Oh You forgot about Hercules you fucking idiot. You forgot about Hercules and Zeus you fuck I'm getting Hercules you fucking idiot you forgot about Hercules and Zeus you fuck I'm getting Hercules I'm getting punished to shoot me So yeah, I've been bad punisher into my life So Hercules gonna come to town potentially maybe to punch the shit of the new vent I see in punks the shit of the like the

Young event doesn't want to kill for yeah, but also is like was not on earth I know but Odin was like go to earth like yeah, Odin. Yeah, no, I'm sorry Zeus Zeus was like they make a fun of us. They think they're better than us. He's a hero's who do they think? They are the guys. What are they doing over there? Good? Good? Smack him in a man for me Come back and tell me how well you hit him or like you can imagine like Sam going to space and he goes to Thor and Thor's like No, I can't help you but and like he's just friends with Hercules now. Yeah, and then Hercules is like yeah, I'll do it Yeah, so I reckon Hercules come down. Maybe he fight. I'll eat it happens off camera

Yeah, basically I reckon Sam's got Hercules. Okay, all right, cuz you got a god. We got Captain America. Yep, we got Falcon. Yep. You got four hulks. You got a dog. You got man thing You're well finite. Yep, and you got Hercules. Yeah, this is a big avengers. It's pretty good team I know so it's the worst to like imagine them talking. Oh Horrible shit, they got nothing to say to each other. The hulks would dominate. Oh, and you got roads. At least the hulks can talk.

I could have a conversation with she-hulk or hulk-hulk. Or scar. I couldn't talk to Scar. I'd be like, brother. I'd be too distracted. It would be like the scene in Austin Powers with the mall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Haircut. Shit hair. Shit hair. Sorry. Brother! Austin Powers with the ball

Bad haircut to meet you Yeah Um... Wong? Yeah How big is he going? It's also very It feels very dude heavy Avengers never went- It's a bit of a penis fest You got She-Hulk But who else is there? Echo

Who's probably more likely Young Avenger Yeah Fucking... Captain Marvel More likely young avenger. Yeah Captain Shuri you actually you sure you could be on the team. Yeah sure you could be on the team Captain Marvel's probably not she wasn't even there when infinity And also like she's very much a direct response to a threat if Sam was like hey, what if something happened? She's like, yeah, she's happening all the time in space Yeah, yeah, what's happening? Oh another team's got your name big grow up. Yeah, stop crying fuck. Oh, who's my number?

I like the idea of Captain Marvel being like yeah sure I'll fix that and just blowing up Call me ever again Cry baby problems, what's her face? Yeah, the scroll. Oh, yeah little crybaby problems. What's her face? Yeah. The super scroll. Oh yeah, she's a girl. Yeah.

Can't get her on. Amelia Clarke. Amelia Clarke. An actress I have no issue with, but only picks the worst possible projects. She truly does. She really does. Is that all the ladies?

Wonders Corpse. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Wonders Corpse, good choice. Yeah. It's a good choice. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yep, yep, yep, yeah. Okay, Wanda's corpse, good choice. It's a good choice. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. Oh, fuck. And then...

What about the Bloodhunter from Werewolf by Night? Oh yeah, Elsa Bloodhunter. Elsa Bloodhunter. Bloodstone. Bloodstone. Get her in. Get her in, why not? Well she can fight monsters and shit. Yeah, I'm surprised that there isn't like another team like a fourth one, which is the you know, like Like yeah her

the dog Fighting, you know ghouls and Frankenstein or whatever. Yeah, I reckon super scroll probably be dark Vengell. Yeah Fighting Agatha. Yeah. Yeah fuck yeah wiccans young avengers Is like are they there in the comics? Yeah, but yeah at the end of Agatha roll along They say let's go find your fucking brother, and then they disappear. Yeah, but doesn't mean young venger Yeah, right where else they fucking go could be normal venger. No Yeah, I reckon. Where else are they fucking going? Could be normal venger? No. To honour your mum. No. To honour your mum! Young venger dude all the way down. Yeah, Tommy and and Wiccan they'd young vengers. Fast and magic. Fast magic. Those the two

Boys you gotta have. Any of the Guardians of the Galaxy are they staying in space? They're all staying in space except for Peter. Yeah. Yeah, I think he, you know, Sam might grab Peter. Yeah. Yeah. Good. I think maybe he can't get all like, yeah, I don't think he's getting swamp or dog. No. And I think he's like the of hulks. I reckon maybe he's getting one president. Hulk is probably going to be like, I'm in jail for a reason. Yeah. I'm not going out of jail. That's rude. Yeah. I got to respect the boundaries of the American judicial. Do you understand? I am president, but sorry, I'm sorry that I was president Hey, do you think?

Man things gonna be massively instrumental in doomsday and secret war no no You don't think in a movie that is like the nexus of all reality is all about busted open realities and entering ultimate- Did they establish that at all in Werewolf by Night? Did they establish anything about Swamp Man thing in Werewolf by Night? No, not at all. He then- no. But just the fact that they're bringing him back at all for an unrelated project. Yeah, he's just gonna be fucking in the background. He's there for fanservice of freaks like you.

He was the champion of- Scar knows him. Scar knows him? No, no was the champion of scar knows him scar knows no no no no Hulk knows him Hulk might know him Hulk might know him Hulk maybe beat the shit out of him that is the one thing we've never seen in the MCU that is implied that I would love to watch beating the shit out of a man thing who doesn't know what's happening and I I also love that man. I think it was a champion because he doesn't know who he was. They led him into the arena. He killed people. He was like, where am I? What's going on? They gave him a palace is like, oh, they sent men, women in there to be like, what does he want? They

come out confused. He wants nothing. I don't know when I'm horny He's horny though, I guess and then when Hulk squishes his head like a plum He just turns up in the Everglades again It is like it's not even like that was crazy because he doesn't think any of it. I'm in the swamp Yeah, it's like all my good friends the Gators wait. No Gators the way you're talking about all of you really think he's going to be the key to doom I do I truly do I reckon Go team modes

I'm putting okay on the table go team mode. I will go go team mode if Man thing is pivotal is not obviously if Manthing is pivotal you two have to go go team mode, but if it's not pivotal I'll go go team mode I'm on your side No, okay, if ManthingThing is not pivotal, we go goatee mode. If Man-Thing's pivotal, Joel Dutcher is Mr. Goatee. Nexus of all realities, dude. Fucking... I don't know, Tony Stark, Dr. Strange, fucking touches him with his magic fingers.

He's like, it'll be like, how are we gonna fix this wait a second man thing? You're the you're the next you're the reality. There's one thing. Oh, I as dr. Straits have to do is finger you a bit Mr.. Man thing and then we get to be the next if I jerk off me That will fix everything no he'll put his hand in man thing So I'm out and then the wall and they'll he'll see all and then he'll be I'm regretting switching. I'm going go team Goddamnit the project that he was announced for the Jackson thinks was doomsday wasn't doomsday. Yeah, he might even be in the movie

Nevertheless, I'm going no it was canceled Going go team and even further though. This is not related to my go team. There's just another mad theory The tree that Loki is I are is somehow related to the swamp that man thing is oh, yeah So that's more that's more plausible. I don't know I don't know that it is Yeah, the only information and I think this is what you've got is someone was like man things gonna return in 2026 Hmm, what else is coming in 2026? Fantastic for no

Spider-man Copy they could do the first time there's this scene from the comics which was the first time I ever saw man thing one of The greatest comics of all time which of a dear listener has access to I'd love to own it at once again where spider-man's chasing lizard through the Then lizard runs away and just bumps into man And the man that a funny lizard's like, oh, I'm gonna get away from Spider-Man. Ah!

It's like an Ultimate Spider-Man comic. Oh, fuck, it's funny, dude. Ultimate Spider-Man? Yeah. Oh, that might be upstairs, bro. It is in. Just the specific panel of me having grabbing the lizards What's happening to me, oh it's good stuff

Fuck so yes, I guess if I buy him Sam Wilson. Yes, I'm getting my buddy Falcon I I reckon I could maybe get a she Hulk okay if we want to bring she Hulk back into the fold Because like yeah, it would be nice to get a Hulk, but here's a little left field for for old hulky okay is if he's like well I got to get my son needs to be part of a team the young vendors are there yeah you join the young vendors I'll be the mentor oh a hulk mentor or whatever okay it's like I'm not going to be part of like you know the rage monster whatever I'm here as your backup I'm gonna be you you make sure everything's okay for these kids. And so that's why he's he's role there. Um, you know, Scott, Scott will be a man. It'll be like, yeah, sure. I'll join up. Yeah. Um, he doesn't know that Cassie's joined the young Vengers. I reckon

that's part of that. That'll be a big bit of conflict like you gotta stop doing that yeah ah Who else is he no bro? You know? Have you found a battle is it not the best? Yeah, it's not as good as I think you remember it. That's so sad I didn't see it as a teenager Because Liz it's not running from spider-man having a conversation the man thing just conversation the man thing just fades in by I think I'm funnier blah blah blah blah what does man thing think is happening who are these people

grabbing his head the issue you're looking for is the ultimate marvel team up issue 10 yeah incredible stuff oh fuck the artwork, full respect to the artist looks like shit yuck looking, I don't know. Oh, yeah

Oh, it's weird. It's like it looks like internet comic. Yeah Not bagley. I don't know Okay, how many this is my question to wrap us up how many? People are on the original Avengers team six. Yeah, there's six Hope we got America Hulk. Are we gonna count Maria Hill? No, no, no, you just want the superhero people Yeah, so Captain America Iron Man Hulk Black Widow Hawkeye Just for Thor Thor so let's pick six. Okay characters each For Sam Wilson's Avengers these could add an extra hour mm-hmm six except sick

As a group okay as a group as a group let's okay two weeks We got we have we have we now have we've resolved all those six To have already been chosen for us. Oh, that's true. You got we got count American Falcon. That's done. Yeah, we've got four We've got four of us we We have one each in an argument Okay, okay, okay roads Wong I'm gonna go Valkyrie, okay I don't think they know Valkyrie. How they getting Valkyrie? Well cuz

I don't think they I don't think they know Valkyrie. How they getting Valkyrie? They need they need a they need a god they see it on the TV Okay, well if we're just going by that then Captain Marvel. Yeah Sixth one yeah Why Captain Marvel is the most powerful she's in space She doesn't have time. He's in space. No, that's God. Fuck. It went to black and white planet. Yeah. And then came back. Did she come back? Yeah. She's not on the black and white planet. But she goes to white planet. The fucking God eat a planet. Gores planet or what? Damn it. You're the only one who liked this movie. Why do we remember

it? Fuck all love and God's planets, black and white. They go to God's planet. They say the only one who liked this movie why do we remember it fuck all of the planets black and white they go to Gulls planet they find fly this seems to be a lot of arguing about my choice of Valkyrie I'm a pick Hercules then how the fuck do you do Valkyrie at least Hercules is coming to earth no you keep saying that doesn't happen either Valkyrie lives on earth yeah she's like look if you're yelling about Velga guess what's happen either Valkyrie lives on earth. Yeah, if you're yelling about Velga guess was Training on earth the end of Thor Loventine. She's the king of new Asgard. Yeah, well see if is a nice choice Yeah, not hercules. Okay, he's being sent to the post credit saying back in omnipotent He's being sent to earth! In the post credit scene!

Back in omnipotent city Yeah, yeah Zeus sends his son Hercules to kill Thor Full stop, Thor's not on earth No, cause he's like you gotta go down there Cause they don't respect us They don't respect us! He goes to earth, he's like where the fuck is Thor?

They're like cunt, we haven't seen him In like a decade Who do you want? He's like, fuck that. It's going to get shitty. I'll join your, I liked it. The argument happened on the one that you like, it was just your choice. We weren't having that. You weren't too sad. You weren't too safe. Shouldn't have gone safe. Why'd you go Valkyrie? I should have said Ned instead of Wong. I want you guys making it a dick fest? Oh, it was a penis fest. He's right. I was it was a penis Yeah, I'll get some you know some female representation fine. I'll go with the opposite then Masculine very masculine very hairy Hercules. Yeah

Yeah, it used to be that being a god meant god. I wish this these are going faster something Okay, so yeah, this is lamenting shit. Yeah I'm saying is like you go used to we could have been something I could have been a god And uh, yeah Shit out of Thor I don't I think he sent well, he doesn't know where the fuck you don't know where the fuck a door is I don't know where the fuck fuck a door is He's on a planet with his daughter planets are in space

Earth is also in space. Yeah, but is it a different? Being like I got my I got a little bit, you know, but my ego has been you know bruised Uh-huh. I'm want to like you know send him after Thor. I'm gonna send him Also as God is fucked fuck you as not in new as gods honor I'm sending him to earth because that's where the last time I think fucking that's where all the Asgardian console. Yeah Okay, the post credit scene Let's see Hulk now She'll makes she hooks a better choice in Valkyrie What were the Wong. Yeah

Go rid of Wong did you're an idiot? Also, no, he explicitly says he's gonna send to Earth a message by killing Thor He's not going I'm sending Earth a message. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna go get you I'm sending a message. You gotta go kill Thor. He sends him to Earth. Where's Thor? Okay, you I'm sending earth a message. You gotta go kill Thor. He sends him to earth. Where's Thor? He don't know where Thor is no he says he's not even complaining about he doesn't even mention human beings by name He just said what he basically goes we're in the age of superheroes. Yeah, people don't respect gods anymore. Yeah superheroes exist Yes, I'm gonna send that he just says time to send a message kill for yeah He goes in the mate goes goes to earth because he's got to go and kill Thor but also superheroes and Thor

Guardians are you go to earth? It's implied in that that it's like superheroes have like taken over God still does live on you as God Thank you. Yeah, maybe All I'm saying is this isn't even the sixth one. We have to agree on Why did we disagree on Wong? We did and he just changed his why she hug? Okay, well changes Hercules and then it became a penis first. I hate Hercules as a choice Valkyrie I'll accept more because at least you don't get a choice in this one. Oh, you know what? I'll do it again. I'll change to sif. Okay, that's fine. Valkyries is is is king of Asgard. Yeah So guess you just want me well well I got a king around.

Mm-hmm. So send the sith one. Yeah. Plus you got a cool sword. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. She doesn't get enough limelight and shit. Yeah.

All right, so we got sith. We got, you go and she-hawk, you go and you're wrong. Yeah, I'm gonna stick with she-hawk. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's too important for this kind of shit. He's already got a job. Sorcerer Supreme.

Sorcerer fucking Supreme, dude. But the whole point of it is, what does the Sorcerer Supreme do? He protects fucking supreme. He's got to get he's got to what does the sorcerer supreme do? He's got the material realm. Uh-huh fucking magic shit Yeah, so Sam Wilson comes up to him and he says hey the president became a hulk Wong says brother Do you do I look like I give a fuck hey brother? Where was the previous sorcerer? So he was not very good at his job. Don't you remember why he lost sorcerer supreme because he got blipped into a hole Yeah, no he went into disintegrated Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's when and that Wong only got it through a technicality through that you can pick Wong for the six brother Wong for the six wongs the sixth

Do have any other dissenting opinions and you're a supreme is traditionally on Venge's I do like long even the ancient one is helping the Avengers just quietly in the Battle of New York Can we make it a long Ned double feature? No fuck? Fuck you talking about I'm still angry about these Hercules the fact even though Hercules is cut from the team my anger He was even considered. I hope I hope Hercules makes me Things never seen again in the MCU when I hope Hercules dies in real life. Please makes a team you go egg mode. No focus goes coward I don't want to

count you You hate Hercules Well, yeah, cuz look here's the thing I hate Thor love and thunder it made double the amount of money that most MCU movies have made recently So they're gonna be like who should we bring back? Hercules make your douche go egg mode Not gonna back yourselves what I'm hearing no, I'm not gonna back myself also because here's what's gonna happen Yeah doomsday and secret war follow a similar thing to infinity war or endgame where there's 60 guys And then we get into a huge argument for an hour and a half about whether or not that makes them Avengers. Yeah

Every single one of us is egg mode and we don't know why We don't remember at what point in the argument we agreed this was the best outcome. Yeah, just like Is yeah people anyone that comes through a portal or they an Avenger? No. Yeah They were so you know for your egg mode. No, I wouldn't all the fuckers. He's once egg mode You wouldn't even risk egg mode on man thing being important. No, but I will risk goatee mode. Yeah that Is easy to fix and funny. Yeah. Oh, I wouldn't dare fix it. I Would have it grow out horribly Don't worry. Well, we got to wrap this episode up so you can go find that comic book. Yeah, so much. Oh god. It's funny

Yeah, so there's our team. Yeah, she hulk Wong Valkyrie. Yeah, I see if see if sorry she hulk Wong sif Captain America Falcon Rhodes war machine for me. What a team. What a team dude kind of like very similar to the original Yeah, it's a pretty reasonable team. Yeah, be honest. It's almost like the other one out really is the shoe in of Falcon Yes, Falcon replaces Hawkeye. Yeah, that's kind of funny. They're both birds a Hawkeye is not a bird hawk is yeah, I guess and like where do you find like a hawkeye in there? But on a bird of a bird or in a medical so if I had a Falcon what is the what is that? What would you call these eyes Jackson?

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