Plumbing the Death Star - What are the Consequences of Inside Out? (Feat. Michael Williams)

Episode Date: March 27, 2016

In which our heroes get inside your head, haphazardly press a few buttons and try to work out where Apathy went to while wondering what would be the consequences of Inside Out? We look at the complexity of the control panel, try and figure out how anti-depressants might work work and slam the puberty button to see what happens. Jackson is concerned about the effects of clumsiness, Zammit gets passionate over emotional programming and Michael gets sad when he remembers Bing Bong. It’s a real emotional journey as we discover how feelings work. To find more of Michael’s Duck Tales podcast head to http://itsaduckblur.libsyn.com, for his Pop Quiz Hot Shot podcast just head to http://geekmountain.com.au/pop-quiz-hot-shot/ and listen in to the time Zoe beat Steele in a Star Wars quiz. Also if you’re in Melbourne for the Comedy Festival head to http://www.comedyfestival.com.au/2016/season/shows/an-evening-with-michael-williams-who-is-trapped-under-a-boulder-michael-williams and if they use the code DUCKBLUR you get 2-for-1 and may even see us there! Want to help balance Jackson’s emotions? Head to http://www.patreon.com/sanspantsradio and for as little as $1 a month, you can ensure his emotions don’t eat other emotions. Hankering for some sweet geeky loot every month? Do us a favour and go to http://www.geekfuel.com/sanspants and sign up to receive your (possible) Joy today! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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So good night and enjoy the episode. Hey everybody and welcome to this week's episode of Plumbing the Death Star, where we ask the important questions like, what are the consequences of Inside Out? Okay, so straight away, if you push Joy down into that cavern, what happens to yourself? That's what they call depression. But that means you can't get it back. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what they call permanent depression. Yeah. I don't think really. So does that mean, I like that here we are already, but does that mean that Antidepressants and stuff Works like a little lad comes into the brain And he's like

Hi, I'm off to retrieve joy Or Hi, I'm joy Oh no, that's scary You're not joy And then it's just like this No, I'm joy You look different

Hi, I'm joy You seem artificial I'm spooked. No, but see, the way an antidepressant actually works is that it brings you back up to normal. It doesn't make you necessarily super happy. It normalizes you. Does it go and find Joy?

Yeah, probably. Or does it just act as Joy? I don't know. Because Bing Bong disappears forever. He's not just like waiting down there Damn it You just reminded me of what happened in that damn movie Bye Bing Bong

Bing Bong was an imaginary friend You're done with them That's fair enough Bye Bing Bong Good riddance Oh man Actually wait no She wasn't that young in the movie

She's like 14 Yeah you're done with him. Yeah, you're done with imaginary friends. You can imagine your boyfriend. That's good. Yeah, so I guess an antidepressant would either bring back joy somehow or would just replace it. Zombify joy.

Zombie joy in the brain. I think what's more disturbing about the inside out, like the world it depicts, is that you can lose an entire facet of your personality through clumsiness. Yeah. Like, it's not like, oh, a terrible thing happened to me and now, like, whatever, I don't know, sandwich land.

Like, my sandwich land has disappeared. Yeah, it's not like this deep thing that happened. It's like, no, no, no, no. One of my little brain dudes tripped over and knocked it. And now, for some reason out here, you know, on the outside, I'm like, I just don't feel like sandwiches anymore. Yeah, sandwiches are gone. That's scary.

I don't want that to be... It's sandwiches. It's all right. It's not a food. Sandwiches are pretty good food. I'll get by. I don't have a sandwich, man. I don't even like sandwiches that much.

That's ridiculous. You're doing sandwiches wrong, Jack. Yeah, yeah. That's always what worries me. Like when I was watching the movie i was like that's that's not good yeah and even like joy and sadness they fall don't they fall like down a hole is that how they they get get out doesn't sadness get sucked up the pipe yeah they get sadness get sucked up the pipe and joy goes to find her so that means like your own internal conflicts of the personalities in your head, just dicking around, can fuck you up good.

Exactly. And then all you're left with, you know, envy, anger, and... Fear. Fear. Yeah. And that just fucks up little Riley for so long because Joy and Sadness are fucking about. What's messed up about it though is at the

moment joy and sadness come back it's not like riley has reached a natural point where she realizes what she's doing is like a stupid like thing for you know a young kid basically to do it's just like flick in her brain like somebody flicks a switch and she's like okay good so it's not like the outside controls the inside it's like literally the inside controls the outside yeah to a like to a to yeah like literally like literally literally not literally figuratively but literally literally the inside controls the outside if you could get in there with a like a tire iron and just say kill everyone but feel no matter what even if that kid was having the best time of their life, instantly terrified.

Well, there's that control panel. Yeah, that's right. It's less about the emotions of joy and emotions of fear and emotions of sadness. It's more about your control panel. And the thing is, actually, it's not so much. Yeah, you're right. It's the control panel.

Because the kitten who go into the kitten brain, which to me is like the best part of that movie. Oh, it's super good. And there's a couple of cats is like walking across um the computer and just freaking out which explains cats so it's less about the emotion because you could get rid of joy and it's gone you just don't know how think of them all know how to use a computer real good yeah and they each know how to use a computer real good. Yeah. And they each know how to use a computer differently. So different aspects of different things. And that's why it's like, no, let me control.

They should be angry all the time. And there's like an anger button or like maybe a bit more complicated than that. So that's maybe what an antidepressant is. At the start, isn't the baby just have one button? Isn't that all in the control room? Yeah. The control room gets bigger and bigger. And by the end, it's huge.

Yeah. And like in puberty and that kind of stuff. Yeah. It's getting along. So, when antidepressant comes in, it's less about them fetching joy or... Just somebody who knows how to control the thing. Someone who knows how to use that computer for better purposes. But is that how it works? Because I don't think the computer really makes you feel emotions. The computer just makes you do what the emotions want.

Yeah. Feel emotions the computer just makes you do What the emotions want So when Anger's angry He like slides up the arm so you Get fucking shaking your fists And stuff it's not like Anger It's like a puppet It kind of is though

This is not Ghostbusters 2 They're not controlling you with a net It's not like a fucking marionette With like a bad one It's not one to one Cause Anger's like I want her to Behave angry Not like a fucking marinette. With like a bad one. It's not one to one. It's just like. Because anger is like, I want her to behave angry. Yeah.

He's not like. He just wants her to feel angry. Yeah, but he is her feeling angry. No. He's just like a little thing. He's like the embodiment of anger. Yeah, he's the embodiment of her anger. When she's angry about.

Think of it. Here we go. Think of it as a. Let's get into a full-fledged argument about Inside Out so basically think about it as an argument by committee so it's like something happened

and then it's like we have five emotions and being like well I think because of this thing it's this and like no no I think it's because of this and they kind of have an argument and whoever's controlling the panel at that moment in time can kind of be like alright so there's a little little bit of anger a little bit of fear a little bit of um joy but the overall thing is sadness so he's gonna boop boop boop boop program that in and then a sadness and that's why it makes you feel that's that they don't use the fucking control

panel to make her feel the emotions they themselves are the emotions they use a control panel to make her do the behaviors related to that emotion. No. Fucking exhibit A, disgust. Yeah. Okay. When Riley as a kid sees Brussels sprouts, broccoli, or whatever it was, whatever, fucking, yeah, it's broccoli. Yeah.

Right? It's not like Riley, like they press the disgust. Disgust is like, ugh, broccoli. And then Riley is like, ugh, broccoli. Yeah. Disgust is the disgust. Disgust is like, ugh, broccoli. And then Riley is like, ugh, broccoli. Disgust is her disgust. Yeah, the disgust looks at it and goes like, ugh, broccoli, gross. And then quickly does it on the computer and programs everything. Which makes Riley go, ugh. But the emotion she's feeling is disgust the person.

So... No. Yes and no. Like you're right to an extent it's like you're a hundred percent but it's sort of they all they they experience the world and they yes so it's like if say joy wasn't there and something happened it's like well anger looks this and being like well we should be furious fear is like we should be afraid and envy oh no sorry discuss is like no gross so that there's no one there's no one being like no no this is joy this is good this is joyful and programs that in yeah but that's why she's not happy yeah exactly because joy's gone not because they're not using the control panel to not make

her feel joy she's not happy because joy ain't there because joy is her joy you fucks yeah no but they can still no but they can't they try but it doesn't work because Joy ain't there Because Joy is her joy You fucks Yeah I know but they can still Program something No but they can't They try but it doesn't work Because they don't know how They're bad at it It's like they're all specialists

Yes they're all their emotions But they're also all specialists In terms of what they do So say for example So you're saying that if Joy Spent all of her time Training anger Yeah

To look like Joy And control the control panel As Joy did Yeah Then then you would you would your your you would get your wires probably crossed every time you're furious you're real fucking happy though yeah like a hillary clinton when she smiles she's got anger in her eyes what is that emotion no but see at the end those emotions happen but they happen in the form of balls yeah right so that's what that is memories that's memories though not emotions no that's a good point no that is so it'd be kind of like all right say you got the computer

like one three eight is joy yeah one two three is anger kind of thing so you can do one two three eight and it's like anger with a bit of joy you know what i mean yeah so stuff like that think of it it's like you're entering like a konami code you know what i mean it's sort of just these people all know different ways of entering inputs. No, but here we go. Another counter argument, which I hope is just all this episode. It's not all of them using the control panel at first. It's just Joy.

And all Joy does is make her happy. Yeah. Exactly. But she still feels disgust. And she still feels angry because she has those emotions in her head but joy using control panel makes her do happy things that's the fucking point of the movie is that even though she's feeling these things joy is making her act happy that's actually the plot of the film i know that but it's joy is using the computer the computer is what happens to make her behave

happy even though she's not no yes but i think we're missing a crucial little thing yeah go the computer is what is making riley feel the things yes it's the computer that controls yeah because you have a fucking cat who walks across the computer just hitting every button yeah and so it's acting all everything that's what makes okay so let's you have the... You have the four different cats. Three of them are just licking their balls. Five. Three of them are just licking whatever.

And you have one cat walking, and in a space of three seconds, a cat experiences about four different emotions. Yeah, but... So it's the computer that's controlling the emotion, not the fucking individual person. That is like you're being like, all right, I'm'm gonna sit down and play Solitaire right

Solitaire Solitaire And so rather than you controlling The computer that making the solitaire No no no the game is determined Because of me the individual Jackson playing solitaire No you gotta separate

The fucking brain Into the emotions emotions and behaviors okay right so the control panel is what controls behavior okay yeah right the control panel is what they use to make her respond it's what they use to make her but that's what they make them that but they no no no you no. You're right. You're right. But she's always feeling those feelings because those feelings are the people inside. They're the emotions.

They're the cast of Inside Out. She's feeling them all the time. And then, you're right, they get to make her behave in the vein of one of the emotions. So when anger is like, she should be angry now, because I'm angry,

because she's feeling anger. Let's make her behave angry. That's when he gets to control the control panel. But he never does because Joy is like, no, even though she feels sad, she should behave happy. And so Joy using the control panel makes her behave happy. Yeah. So I guess it's the way of a well-balanced person is all your emotions working together. Well, that's what happens at the end of the film. They get the control panel

and they all get to decide. Exactly. Which is what it should be. But it's not the control panel. It's not like if somebody taught me how to do all of the emotions and then using magic put me in the head, I could then make a normal person. You could, though. No, but they'd look normal, but they wouldn't be feeling normal.

But by behaving, we didn't necessarily... Yeah, yeah. What did you guys think of the short at the start? Oh, it was fucking... No, it was all right. It wasn't that good. I lost you in the audience crying, and I was like, the volcanoes. I was disappointed.

I really wanted the end to almost mirror the start, but in reverse, whereas it's kind of still far away. But now it was like the lady was huge and he was under... It was like... I want it to be ending in more sadness. I was just like, I don't know how mountains work. One mountain had to spin. Yeah.

All right. So... Just one of the fighting. Why are you fighting? So, if you look at it like a sociopath or a psychopath, that is what's happening. You've got one little dude there pretending, but they're not actually feeling anything.

Yeah. I was never arguing. I just meant the control panel is not what dictates the emotion. Okay. Sociopath is when Jackson is somehow shrunk into somebody's brain. When I hop inside someone's brain, kill every hole of the emotions with a tire iron, pile them up in a corner, and I'm like,

all right, crack my fingers, let's get to work. I cracked my fingers then, but there was no sound. Yeah. So how do people who just don't fully quite understand emotional behavior and have to sort of fake it? Like a well-functioning sociopath. I guess they just either have really dulled versions of all of the emotions or there's just one person who represents...

Maybe it's like... Okay, so you know in the film Inside Out, there are also workers just everywhere? Oh, yeah. Maybe it's like the person's born and the workers are like hmm ain't nobody up here nobody at headquarters you want to just send a couple of our lads up there until somebody arrives then they just get real good at working the machines and they're like it has been years and nobody else this is fucking strange potentially time to sharpen that

axe yeah i always think how traumatizing it must be if, so, you know, people in car accidents, they can get really intense brain damage, which can make them a sociopath. Well, not necessarily a sociopath, but, like, knock out emotions. So how scary to be in a car accident, and then you wake up as, like, sadness, and you're like, oh, man.

Hello? Everybody else is just gone. Scary. Scary. Especially scary as well, like, well like fucking again it's all physical in there it's not like like those emotions can die from just tripping over you know what i mean well they're scared when things are falling on them like with it when they're when joy and sadness are like running through the mindscape when shit's like toppling they're like gotta get out of the way they're not like whatever

they fear death or maybe not it does so much incompatible i guess also actually they have a goal like they're like on a time limit but i think like nothing kill kills them except for going into that giant pit yeah that's true which i'm sure has a name, but I forget it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could you imagine if Joy was like, Riley's feeling sad. We've got to stop Riley from feeling sad. Throw sadness in there.

That's how you get a manic person. That was happened in there? I like to think manic depressives is where Joy and Sadness have eaten the other just the two of them slamming down on the control panel yeah yeah yeah uh because that does like come in you know you look at someone something like mental illness in the inside out world is a very i guess not easy fix but i guess easy to understand yeah oh you're just lacking a joy

you're like just lacking an anger. There you go. Like these are just the things that aren't, or even if you're not lacking them, they're just like not participating that much. Yeah. Or they've been tied up. Yeah, exactly.

Or the other emotions. It is a worry though, that you can lose your joy and sadness just by, again, like clumsiness. Sadness just gets sucked up that pipe because she's like, no, I want this ball. Whoop, up she goes. And then your sadness is gone.

Very fragile up there. They don't get an instruction booklet. Like, as in they don't really know what's going on. They don't understand. Isn't sadness sent to read the instruction booklet? No, there is a lot of instruction booklets. And you're right. Joy is like, hey, I don't want you interfering with Riley's emotions. Go. Go read of instruction booklets. And you're right. Joy is like, hey, I don't want you interfering with Riley's emotions.

Go. Go read the instruction booklets. But no one seems to have even read them because one thing being like, hey, yo, yeah, memories change and shift. That's the point of memories. It's fine. Just relax. Yeah, nobody tells them that. And then like puberty.

There's a big button that just says, what's this puberty button doing? That's going to be interesting. Did they just not get that instruction manual? Yeah. there was like a big like a big button that just says what's this puberty button doing yeah that's that's gonna be interesting they just not get that instruction manual yeah i'm glad they didn't push that button when she was like three or yeah exactly just slam the puberty button down because that is something that happens with people who have like experienced trauma i did like hey we're here uh like uh particularly with sexual abuse it's um people who are sexually abused actually get maturity or hit puberty earlier

that's just something that happens someone up there being like well I guess we're doing these things so dang even people who develop really early I guess that's just your emotions being like hey whatever slam it down people who develop late they're like I guess we get around to it should we press that?

no leave the puberty button I'm scared of it pokemon's are still cool yeah yeah it's still good it's still good i mean there's a menopause button down the track of course just don't press it it's fine well they have to be compelled to or is everything just wacky hijinks of being clumsy like that's why we enter puberty if someone just shoved joy it's just again like the fact that it's all a physical place means that if say joy tripped over and accidentally pressed buttons i could just like poke myself in the eye and ejaculate like you know what i mean that's my thing now based on it oh like what the fuck is that and joy's like oh boy oh, boy. I don't know. We're going to have to solve this now. Like a new island appears. It's like an eye-poking fetish.

Shit. Damn it. Shit. Fucking hell. Oh, no. So many of these goddamn islands. What happens when you're done with a thing? Say Riley decided at puberty that she was more interested in, I don't know, fucking cars

than she was hockey. Yeah. Does hockey Island just collapse Or does it go somewhere else No it collapses That's the point Like you don't care about it anymore That's so sad

Or it might become very shrunken Like a little tiny Hockey Like fucking kiosk Somewhere Yeah a hockey kiosk Amongst car land Yeah exactly

Yeah Strange So we only see Inside the Oh we see inside the head Of grown ups But there's no Added emotions They only stick inside the head of grown-ups, but there's no added emotions. They only stick to the fore.

No, yeah, that's a good point. They don't get, like, puberty. They don't get, like, lust or something. Yeah, because I was just about to say, like, when she's first born, it's just joy. So that's fine. But then, yeah, you'd think as it kind of grows older, you'd get other emotions.

But we are seeing inside the heads of others. And there's nothing. Yeah. Surely lust comes along. Because who's taken the brunt of that like joy and joy yeah i was gonna say anger and joy probably mixing together team up they just like for a good while anger and joy just in your head just like going at it yeah puberty has got to be rough not for like it sucks for you but also for your emotions in your head oh yeah oh and disgust has got to get in there as well oh absolutely you kind of hate yourself and that's pretty much everybody just comes together for a glorious orgy of unhappiness that's the thing

it's like joy and disgust comes like this is so good but it feels so wrong but nah it's great and then you you know you ejaculate and then it he's just like, Joy's like, well, I'm done. And then just Asghar's like, what have we done? Sadness sort of sidles up to Joy and is like, huh. And then Asghar's like, yeah, I know. I know. And fear is like, am I normal? And anger's like, no. Poverty's a mess.

I'm not there. Good luck, guys. Well, I guess they need to be other. They should be. Unless we just, you know, they're taking a break. Like, you know, we only see a few of them. Lust is always just out. Lust is out. Lust has gone through memory.

Is this good? I guess we do see what? We just see adults, like grown people in their 40s. Maybe lust has gone away for a while. Kind of like taking a backseat. Yeah. During the proceedings. I always thought it was a bummer that nobody... Yeah, we see the

dad and he's like, his anger is the one in main control and we see the mother and the sadness is the one in main control. I always thought there was like a little sort of hidden story there where like that family unit wasn't that great together. Like they kind of had a lot of problems. I think it's kind of like... They seem like a good family.

It's this idea of what parents do to sacrifice their sort of life for kids oh yeah you know what i mean because it's kind of like yeah there's sorry parents sorry children um but it's just kind of this idea that like i had hopes and dreams but then we had to really like stop them put them on hold for a kid just for a kid and you kind of have that i mean you know you when you get to a certain age you have this sort of discussion with your own parents kind of stuff and you do find that that's sort of the reality of the situation it's sort of oh yeah like i didn't always want to do this but i had to simple because i ended up being you know under 30 and with three kids or about 35 and three kids so it's like oh it makes

sense mom i'm sorry um and then sort of that where it's like i guess the mom would feel sad because it's like even though look very happy joy is still very functional it's like i love my children but there is this sort of idea of sadness to be like i could have been something else so i could have done this yeah same with the far and then men i mean this is called a gender stereotyping a bit but when men look at it's like damn it why did i do this and that's you know idea of having a father figure who might not deal with their emotions and then being like you damn shit kids why did you do this yeah the dad didn't seem like he dealt with it's weird the way inside out kind

of like you had all those gender stereotypes like all of the dad's fucking emotions were watching football not caring about the family and that you know I'm kind of on the dad's side though not about not caring he has a shit family fair enough or I guess not on the dad's side it's not fair

of Riley to make her parents move back just because she's sad about the new place like that's what happens in the end they're like lol our kid's sad so let's head back to home you're like that ain't how it works and dad would realistically just be like hey Riley dad's gotta make money

to support the family fly in fly out I guess would be the better option it's America so it's a lot different than australia because i asked sort of i guess traveling interstate is like that's a while away yeah i guess in america it's not not yeah depends where the states were because for us it's like you know you used to get into the state it's like hey a day trip by like day i mean two days yeah uh

and hey we're almost at sydney so i don't't know what the interstate where they go to in America, but there's an option there. I mean, you didn't have to give up your hopes and dreams, Dad. Yeah, I know. You can like... But it wasn't even a bad house. It was nice. It was just like Riley was getting used to it.

Like why put your life on hold, Dad, because your kid is like, it's been one day of school. That's the point of being a parent. No. When I'm a dad and my kid's like uh it's been one day of school that's the point of being a parent no when i'm a dad and my kids like i had a bad day of school i'm gonna be like give it a year at least if you hate it in a year we'll sort something out toughen up kiddo toughen up come on i didn't raise no wuss smack him in the mouth i'm gonna be a bad dad yeah i always find it weird of like because because, you know, I don't fully,

there's many conversations with me and my partner of being like, you just don't understand like basic emotions sometimes. I mean, I know. Yeah. Yeah. And this is kind of like, I always imagined in my head that joy has just taken over a little bit too much. Joey's like, no, this is a happy time.

Yeah. It's like, you should feel furious. No, no, laugh. It's funny. It's good. Are you sad? No. It a happy time. Yeah, it's like, you should feel furious. No, no, laugh. It's funny. It's good. Are you sad? No, funny times. Suck that laugh button.

And so when she's having a very bad day and feeling quite depressed, it's like, no, let's have a good time. Your joy is a Greek private school kid. Of course. Let's have a good one. Let's have a good life, mate. No course. Let's have a good one. Let's have a good one, mate. No, stop it. These are good times.

All this crying bullshit. No, no, no. Look, have a kebab. I'll chew you right up. You'll be right. And you'll be right, man. Let's go for a sick lapse down Chapel Street. Yes.

Couple of days. Couple of days, mate. Beautiful. I was imagining in my head there's everybody, but they were just not working quite at full capacity so it's like oh uh like here's an event that's happened in jackson's life and everyone's like what huh i don't know just do something about it and everyone's like minimal response i'm like oh yeah pop shaggy dog on it what about do you want to what's that home alone movie he likes check Track that on We Can Take a Sleep.

This is the best movie ever. What's that, Joey? Huh? Yeah, good. Joey, Joey, Joey, Joey, Joey. How are you, Michael? Is your little men doing all right? I guess. Yeah, When I saw that film

Fear is just in control Oh my god Fear, fear, fear Slam that button That's a good question Which of the emotions Because clearly one takes reign Fear for you, joy for you

I'm going to say If there was an apathy emotion that's exactly just that grey guy who's also there who's in control and everyone's like this doesn't feel right

yeah I feel like maybe it's like a worker and like joy yeah and the worker's like yeah and then joy

but yes a little bit of some anger I don't know I like to think there's a worker who's coming in and he's like, no, no, no, this is how we do things and Joey's like, I feel like this is a happy time and the worker's like, no, no, no, this is a basic

normal time No, no, no That's fine, I guess I am just having sex at Disneyland, just a normal day What, I was just Disneyland sex with a Just a normal day Just Disneyland sex with a mascot Couldn't give a shit Joey's like

This feels like something we've been wanting for a while No Disgust is like For a while? I should be here, right? No, no You're fine where you are, Disgust Chill

Okay Fine, I guess Security guard stops you Anger, do you want a response? No I'm good Just chill. Okay. Fine, I guess. The security guard stops you. Anger, do you want a response? No. I'm good. Fear?

Huh? No. Just a normal day. Pressing some buttons, shifting some gears. Normal day. Does the control panel get more and more complicated as they... But this is another scary thing, given that the emotions are like individual unique personalities. They don't get a control panel when they're supposed to get a control panel

because Joy won't... They need to ask for it. That's messed up. As in like the other emotions are asked Joy. No, as in Joy is like, this is fine. So nobody ever goes and asks the workers for a new control panel. It's not like you hit a certain point in your life where you're experiencing more complicated emotions,

have the new control panel. Yeah, they do that. That's what happens. No, they decide to work together. Yeah. And then they're like, oh, and also, while we were here, we got some upgrades for the control panel. Yeah, but they have no control on that upgrade.

That's just something that happens naturally. It only happened when they all worked together. Do you remember the movie? I do, but that's like... We can have another Inside Out argument, Samit. I sort of hope so. Correlation doesn't equal causation. So you're saying just happily, coincidentally, the moment...

Because she's about to hit puberty. She was 14. Yeah. She's a late bloomer. She is, because of the moment... Because she was about to hit puberty. She was 14. Yeah. She's a late bloomer. She is because of the puberty, but they haven't hit it yet. She's an early bloomer. They haven't hit puberty yet. No, she's a pretty much on point bloomer.

It's just coincidence that it's happening at the same time. Well, that's very fortunate for the emotions of the film Inside Out. Here's another question, though. Another little question about Inside Out. What happens in like 1810 times? All your emotions then. That's a good question. It wasn't a computer.

Yeah. Horses? Yeah. Horse and car. Like a horse moving like a fucking grain mill. A butter churn? Yeah. No, just a pipe organ.

Maybe that's where the modern design of computers came from From inside someone's head Based on the computers inside in your head I can make that Weird thing with talking about like 1810 times Like disgust right Is disgusted by broccoli And pretty normal things to be disgusted by

But the And not even like even culturally The things that you're disgusted by vary Depending on and not even like even culturally the things that you're disgusted by vary depending on what you've been taught is disgusting well yeah because you know she's living in this western culture where it's like oh gross broccoli and so like no she hates it as a baby she hadn't been influenced yet oh good point yeah but like what what what does that mean for like 18 10 times who teaches disgustust that like, I don't know, ankles are forbidden or whatever? Does that like, can you learn things?

Oh, man. Now I'm just working around disgust because a lot of the things we find disgusting are naturally informed. Like a primal thing. Like you're disgusted by like death or shit or whatever. Disgusted by, you know, mold, I a death or shit by you know mold i would say particularly when i'm talking about food because you're like oh that's that's gonna poison me but like you know so for example like people go oh brussels sprouts but it's like i only know to

be disgusted by brussels sprouts because everyone in my life has been in like pop culture like oh brussels sprouts is the worst but i've had brussels sprouts it's pretty delicious so it's kind of like yeah what's it probably what it means though is that say you found brussels sprouts it's pretty delicious so it's kind of like yeah what's it probably what it means though is that say you found brussel sprouts and you'd never had brussel sprouts before but you knew they were disgusting disgust would be like ew brussel sprouts and go to take the control panel to not make us eat brussel sprouts but then joe would be like hey now give them a try you know they'd have a little conversation yeah try it maybe they'll love it maybe they'll hate it but then this is the first time they they like try broccoli and she's like gross yeah that's true well could that just be because babies

are super tasters babies taste things a lot stronger than we do okay so maybe broccoli because it was like a formative thing she's like i just never want to go there again plus your tastes change but wasn't she hit disgust before she ate broccoli? Or while she was eating broccoli? I don't know. I don't remember that. Neither do I. This isn't the Zabruta film.

We should be able to change this. It's not that hard to decide. Frame by frame. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, it's lost to the ages. Never know how to check this. Who knows? Maybe there was a second broccoli.

On a grassy knot. Because, yeah, if it's sort of like you taste it, then it's disgusting. It's fair enough. But yeah, taste you change. Because it's like I used to find tomato sauce gross. Yeah. When I was younger.

Now, like, well, good. But I used to find most sauce disgusting. Now, like, nah, good. It's a funny thing to say. But fair enough. Also, when you're younger, like, ah, food touching. Now, like, no, It's a funny thing to say. But fair enough. Or something like a young guy, ah, food touching. Now, like, nah, get it all mixed together and eat that shit.

So I guess that just means that at a certain point there's a discussion between your emotions and they're like, look. Sit down, disgust. We've got some issues to talk. It's hard to address the broccoli. What happens when you're asleep? Then everybody...

No, they go into dreams, remember? No, you go into dreams but the emotions don't no they get to like a break yeah they go and have a nap from memory do they need to sleep i think they want to sleep do they need to the dream department is a whole other fucking kettle of shit fish because kettle of shit fish the whole other kettle of shit fish because kettle of shit fish. Kettle of shit. The whole other kettle of shit fish. Because, like, that's another whole entire operation acting independently of fucking...

Emotions, yeah. What do they call them? Central? Yeah, central. Oh, okay. I thought there was a bigger name for it. It's just central. But that's the whole point of the brain is there is like...

Yeah, you have the central and then you have Offshoots into all the different lands So stuff is Presumably happening in hockey land And whatever And family land and all that kind of stuff And you know when they fall and Get crushed and people work in there

Like the person you know in car land Working that hockey kiosk Maybe that just gets toppled Somebody's partner at home in like the person you know in car land working that hockey kiosk exactly maybe that just gets toppled somebody's partner at home in like the fucking like lost dreams department or whatever is like oh what's that that's destroyed like my my emotions that mean that each one of these people have in their own head no only humans are good enough. And cats. But dogs and cats. Yeah, or dogs and cats. Or porpoises or whatever. Here's a question.

So where's logic in any of this? I'm not saying logic in having people in your brain, but I'm saying in our life, we often encounter decisions we need to make where we need to make our decision based on logic. Without any emotions. But in the world of Inside Out... That's your worker dude

yeah but he doesn't come up there all the time he should they should employ one worker dude like a supervisor yeah

like rational off to the side because otherwise it's just sort of like like you're in public and somebody's being really rude to you and you know you

shouldn't respond because you don't want to start a fight they look like a tough kind of whoever they might smack you one yeah but if you've just got emotions working in there they're like get him punch him and then we get hit and they're like oh why like i saw yesterday uh we're walking

down uh high street and there was just this person who clearly says having a shit day and very she was very visibly upset and kind of yelling, talking to herself. Like, you, you, why did you do that? Like that kind of thing. Oh, boy. I kind of like, like, like, like, I went to Anne, like, why would you do that in public? Kind of thing. It's sort of like that.

Like, that person probably doesn't have that sort of logic brain to be, or logic center to be like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's, let's not make a. Let's take a break till we get home and cry. Yeah, let's not make a big deal of ourselves. But she's like, you're a monster, Zama. I'm like, oh, no. But yeah, it sort of is.

Where is that logic? Where is that person in your brain? There should be another emotion. You should have lust in there and you should have logic in there when everybody's like, yeah, logic. It's like, hey, everybody, calm down. It's very funny from ages like one or zero to say 13. It's just someone in there who's lost.

Yeah. Who's just doing nothing. Yeah. And I was like, what are you? Ah, you'll see. I got big things planned. With like diagrams. Can I have a look?

No, they're mine. It's so great to have like some guy, like the big control panel and like the guy hits 14 and he like cracks his fingers and he's like, all right, and he walks up to the control panel and just like puts a bonometer up he's like there you go that's where it stays my fucking peace stellar resistance contribution nobody touched that dial it's dying all the way up they're like it's making him real uncomfortable like joy goes to like move it No not yet 19 Puberty is just like

Lust trying to put the bonometer up Joy being like masturbate Or lust being like masturbate And logic being like no no we are in class Stop it Please stop And then there's like fucking lust Slamming that masturbate button

lust lust lust lust lust lust yep the brain's a scary place yeah I think definitely needs a logic centre you don't have to be crazy to work there but it helps there you go and on that note I've been Joel I've been Jackson I've been Michael

and where can we find you Michael I do a podcast with my wife called It's a Duck Blur we watch every episode of Duck Tales and talk about it and when I'm not doing that stupid endeavour I'm hosting a pop quiz hot shot which is a movie trivia quiz show also

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