Plumbing the Death Star - What Did We Think Of Avengers Infinity War (Ft. George Dimarelos)

Episode Date: April 25, 2018

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Sans pants? There you go. not going to what is wrong with you honestly you probably didn't even need that warning look fuck you that's a yeah gave you just enough rope to hang yourself with what is that good stuff well done that goes to anyone who clicked on it being like i I hope they don't spoil it. That fuck you is for you, but I'm hoping that went to no one as you're all clever enough to figure that out. My God. All right.

Another thing before we start this episode is we usually do the, oh, what did we like about the film? What didn't we like about the film? What didn't really make sense? And the first two parts of that are boring. That is true. We liked the film. Let's we like about the film what didn't really make sense and the first two parts of that are boring that is true we liked the film let's just talk about um right well where do we start now that you've now that you've destroyed the structure of the show where to begin it's late i'm loose can we can we go with things we really Yes, that's a good place to start After all that What an introduction though I'm fiery, which is weird

Because I liked the film Maybe it's because it's late And I worked before we saw it And I got yelled at a lot You're on edge I'm angry at people that saw the movie Even though I saw the movie Just because they were so yelly

You're ropeable You're just as yelly. You're ropeable. Now you're just as yelly as they are. I know, but I'm not yelling at... You've become the thing you hate. I'm yelling at my audience. My audience isn't yelling at me. Not yet. I like the vast majority of this film.

I also liked... Maybe not the vast... Actually, I liked watching this film, but I feel like that when I rewatch it, I'm going to be like, okay. I've come to accept that every Marvel movie is a one watch. Yep. If you watch it a second time, it's on you. Yeah.

Every Marvel movie I've enjoyed whilst watching, barring maybe Doctor Strange. Yeah. Every Marvel movie I've rewatched, I've liked less. Really? Yes. So I'm just not rewatching Marvel a man actually you go first before I interject George is also here that's just my global take on watching a Marvel I just feel like is

it maybe recently just because the phone is gone every anything saying like Iron Man I meant three guys I just got one you've watched surely I've watched three times I've liked it less and less every time I've watched it. Yeah, look, I'm with Jack on that one. I disagree with you guys. You guys are crazy. That's all right. Look, I'll jump to your defense here, George. As a man who has rewatched all of them, as good friends, as a man who's rewatched all of them recently,

you're wrong, but the ones that stand out on rewatches are not the ones that stand out in the cinema. Yeah, yeah. That's a bold call. I disagree with you as well. It was your friend! Except for, like, The Winter Soldier soldier is great no matter how many it's just a fucking good

well see i've only seen the winter soldier once but watch it again you'll be like oh yeah good what about captain america one that was a great one captain america one i love i love civil war was the worst crash and burn for that and'm like, fuck, wow, what a movie. Second time I'm like, what a movie. Third time I'm like, this movie is fucking terrible. So that's why I think this one falls in the category of the later bunch, which we've had, which includes like Black Panther and stuff, which is, yeah, where I think rewatching it is going to be not that good.

Thor Ragnarok's still good on rewatch. Is it? It's so gaggy. I thought you were going to say something else. I think I was going to say. It doesn't matter. Deep throaty. I thought you were just going to say.

You're so deep throaty. Oh, my God. That deep throaty mess. We all hit that gag reflex. I don't think that's what you thought I was going to say. No, it doesn't matter. So the one that I thought was very funny was straight away, we're like,

hey, remember that gut punch in Thor Ragnarok? Fuck you. Half of us Asgardians dead. Sorry, the remaining Asgardians, half of them dead. That's a weird thing, right?

So actually, I was thinking about that. So more than half of them already dead. And then it says, for reference to the movie, that he didn't kill all of them. So Thor does say

you killed half of them. Yeah, he killed half. so doesn't he keep track isn't he like Rourke he was like okay they've clearly lost everyone already I'm pretty sure

they're balanced out resource wise no how is he looking at the ship and being like this ship is gonna run out soon he kills half

then blows up the ship surely that counts as killing all of them yeah I know like who was alive at the end of it he took them into his ship on the ship again look that's it hey all of them. Yeah, I know. Like, who was alive at the end of that? Who took them into his ship? I'm a ship. Again, look, that's it.

Hey, that's one thing that doesn't make sense. I'm like, hang on. Imagine if we had a structure still. What would we do? Considering like he can do anything with the gauntlet, right? So couldn't he just create a whole bunch of planets for all the overpopulation?

That bugged me with the movie that he's like, I have the reality stone, but he's not like, I'm going to make it reality that I have all the stars. Surely that's your move there, Thanos. But it seemed like in this movie, the reality stone was just like illusions, basically. Otherwise, he'd be like Titans back, because he makes Titan, the planet he's from,

it's a shithole presently. It's kind of like a fake reality, I guess. It's basically he gets Doctor Strange trick magic. But it does turn bullets into bubbles. Yes, but it cannot turn... Turn planet into same planet but good. Yeah, that for some reason has to be fake. It also cannot turn stones I do not have

into stones that I currently have. So what I like with that, because I thought this movie was great because they had Thanos as your main character. That was neat. That was really cool. I love that we're focusing more on these villains because Marvel is a bit renowned for having shitty villains.

Killmonger fucking rules, though. Lurkey's actually gets flack. No, no, no, I'm just... Why do you bother talking? What a good death to be quiet. Yeah, Lurkey's death. Now we're totally... Fuck off, whatever death we're talking about. Wait, should we let him bother talking? What a good death to be quiet. Yeah, Loki's death. Now we're totally forgot. Fuck off whatever

that was. Wait, should we let him keep talking? Nah. He's voted himself out. I've voted out too of him. I don't feel bad.

Yeah, no, now he's sad. He's played into his hand. This is like Thanos' tears. The soul stone. What are we talking about? You're good. So, say what we got. Oh, we're sweet.

Okay, so. I like Thanos as a villain because you give him a lot of like, you know, pathos you give him a lot of pathos and there's a lot of all that kind of backstory to be cool. But his plan is kind of stupid. Because I get that he's like, we're overpopulated. The whole thing is about balance.

And you kill off half, so he clicks a finger. Great. But then, alright, he clicks a finger. The people that are surviving are able to repopulate and that kind of stuff. Surely it's going to get to a next point where it's like, they did it again. You're overpopulated of stuff surely it's going to get to a next point where it's like they did it again yeah they're overpopulated again

surely it's going to have to come back and like the longest kind of in between clicks yeah click the worst it's like

do you remember is it Bob Geldof like every minute like every time I click a child dies it's like every time Thanos clicks half the population

of the universe dies but the clicks are like a thousand years apart. They take a long time between. I mean, he's still got the glove, so I guess he could. But he's very confident at the end. Huh? It's damage, the glove. Yeah, but it worked well enough to get him back to Titan. Plus, all he's gotta do is go back to the

Forge planet and be like, make us another. Yeah, he's still got the gems. Yeah. Or, use the reality gem, get a new glove from magic go back in time to when you beat up yourself take the glove steal your own glove best move in the game why doesn't he go forward in time and be like hey i got the glove because he doesn't know because at that point time hasn't one thing i thought was odd was that time thing when um uh dr strange went forward in time i thought he was going to go like back in time Because at that point, time hasn't... One thing I thought was odd was that time thing.

When Doctor Strange went forward in time, I thought he was going to go back in time as well and be like, oh, I went back in time and shit happened on Thanos and blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're going to get a little nugget of information. But we didn't. But anyway, you were saying, George? I was just going to say in terms of that,

it's the classic cop-out though. Instead of like, I guess maybe it's too disturbing for people, but go that little bit step. Well, you've got to just go a little bit further and make Thanos' tragedy that happened to him like show it or something so that you know

that his plan's stupid but he's crazy so you're like okay you get it you know just be like alright you saw your father

get killed or whatever and then now that's made you crazy so now you've got this crazy plan was he like the president of his planet

nah he's like one of the a mayor I think they surely they'd give him more than that he just he's like one of the like... A mayor? Surely they'd give him more than that. He ran for city council. Because he was like, I have this plan and it's like, but did you

how did you think you... I could have that plan now. I think he was a scientist from memory. One of the higher elder scientists or something of type. Environmental scientist. Was it like how Krypton... Is it like how Krypton the scientist seemed to be in charge? Look, I don't know about... Was it like how Krypton... Is it like how Krypton, the scientist, seemed to be in charge? Look, I don't know, man.

I don't know much about the Titans. I know that his brother's Starfox and he's rad. Starfox doesn't look like a Thanos, does he? No, he doesn't. You know, Starfox 64, George. You look at him. Fox, you're vulnerable. His name is Eros and his power's a little bit like...

You can make people cum, yeah? Eros? Eros, I think. is a little bit like... You can make people cum, yeah? Eros? Eros, I think. Really? The god of love. Yeah. I am Thanos the Mad Titan. I have the Infinity Gauntlet.

I'm Eros. I look like a dude. I can make you cum like that. That's his power. Brave that Avengers 4 is going to feature him as the main villain. You're ready to see... Or sexy. Ready to see the entire Avengers cum.

Everyone's like, it's a fight. Every time I snap my fingers, half the population will come. It's like, no, don't stop him. Let's see how this pans out. So if you snap it again, does the other half come, or is it like

he takes a hole again and it's half again? What kind of probability are we talking here? If you keep clicking... Oh,'s half again. What kind of probability are we talking here? If you keep clicking... Oh, do it again. I like that it hurts now. Because it means that half the population just dies from dehydration. Have you seen that footage of that guy that comes like 100 times

a day? His life looks hideous. He's so sad. 100 comes is too many comes tenfold. If that man came 10 times a day, I reckon he'd be like, look, it's not great. It's not ideal. But like, it's alright. I'll cop it. And if it's five, he's like, I've got the best life on earth.

Five every day, though. Oh, no, make you tired. Does he get to choose one? Yeah, every time he clicks. That's just like a... Because I have that power. Every time he clicks. That's just like a... But I have that power. Every time he clicks, but if he goes to sleep without those five clicks,

it all happened at once. That's a frightening reality. How would you pace it out? I'd do one straight away. Wake up and come. Yep. I'd have breakfast and maybe do it straight again there. That's two done.

Maybe I'll wait a bit and maybe either like... Sneaky one at work. Like lunch break. The criminal cup. During the lunch break. And then one maybe... You're closing them all too quickly, I think. You need one mystery cup just for wild card.

All right. Wild call. That's how I do it. Sitting there in Avengers against Infinity War and you're like, ooh, yeah, let's get in time with these clips. No, you're in bed. Your eyes, your lids start to rise.

You're like, sick. Click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click,. No, you're in bed. Your eyes, your lids start to rise. You're like sick. Click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. What a way to end the day. And then you are awake because you're hurting. You're just tired. You're screaming. Ow! You've really got enough to eat.

Good morning! Listen to a jazz album. Ow! Oh! Oh! That's a fresh beat. that's a fresh beat that's a good beat something I didn't like

was the meeting between Peter Quill and Thor I thought that was really unnecessary the whole scene or just the start the whole like I like that I think I may be in the minority here I'm so tired of our two protagonists meeting and we know eventually they will

be friends. But for some reason we have to waste all this time on like, Oh, they hate each other. For some reason, they're super mad at one another and gags. And then they're friends. And I didn't like what happened with Dr.

Strange and Tony Stark. But I did like how much there was a big love fest for Chris Hemsworth and everyone was being sexy. I look, Chris Hemsworth is a very sexy man. I like him being a pirate. A pirate God. Yeah. They called him like a pirate angel. That's funny. That he is. Look, Chris Hemsworth is a very sexy man. I like him being a pirate god. Yeah, they called him like a pirate angel.

That's funny. That was good. But I just hated that whole scene and everything Peter Quill said from then on. I wanted him to shut up the whole movie. Shut up, Peter Quill. Did he actually put on weight for the sake of that joke? I suspect he put on weight for another role.

I think he just put on wait. Speaking of roles, I just realised before, they got rid of all the characters to reshoot the next movie who are going to be shooting their movies. That's... If you actually think about it, anyone who's got a movie coming out

in the next two years, so they'll be busy to shoot the next Avengers 3.5 is now not available for it but presumably in avengers 4 everyone will be back yeah yeah well like spider-man julie spider-man 2 comes out between doesn't it no do you want me to i could do show you can give hi everyone uh timeline specialist jordish here i hate that i know this but i have someone yeah it's uh ant-man nose is bleeding ant-man and the wasp yeah i'm

from the future it's a time disturbance it's giving you the nose bleed and then the wasp then captain marvel then avengers okay and then so that's the end of

phase three but they're not calling the next movies phase four they're calling it post phase three and they're only two movies that are confirmed so far are

spider-man 2 and Avengers 3. Okay. Avengers 3. In the back. No, no, no. They're doing a system where they go up and down like a hill. They go, whoop-a. 1, 2, 3, 4, 3, 2, 1, 2, 3.

They're giving away the time travel. They're just bringing out the third one again. Sorry, Guardians 3. So there you go. So see, there you go. And Black Panther's obviously a mark as well. Well, today, Guardians 3. Yeah, so there you go. And Black Panther's obviously a lot as well. Well, today, actually, weirdly enough, today in the news, Kevin Feige

was like, look, we want to make Black Panther or Fiege. I thought it was Fiege. No, it could be. I would say Fiege, but I think it is Feige. I sometimes say Fiege, but that's because I want to go there. Surely it's not Feige. It's Feige. It is. It's like the creator of Mad Men's name is Matthew Weiner.

And everyone was like, Matthew Weiner. And he was like, no, it's Matthew Weiner. Yeah, that's okay. Feige? He's Feige. I've heard it so many times. He's feisty. Like, if I tried to read it, I wouldn't.

Because I wouldn't be brave enough to announce it. Because I know I'd get it wrong. But apparently his name is Feige. I just call him Kev. This is the new smell. Kev. Kev. Yeah, he said today. He was like Black Panther 2 I really want it to happen but if Ryan Kool... Kugla. Kugla? Coolrich. Calvin Coolrich. If my good friend Ryan, we're on a first name basis, isn't ready to make Black Panther 2, I don't want to make it yet. Okay, that's nice. Okay. But you see the logic I was getting at though?

Also, the logic, they've also come out and been like, look, we're not going to announce any more Marvel films until 2019. I can tell you why they're not doing that. They don't want to give away who stays dead. Yeah, so there were things we didn't like slash meh. Because I'm like,

I actually like them killing off a lot of the characters at a randomness it's like there was no like we could stop this it was just like oh randomly people were dying that was great

but then it's like the moment they were like the first one was Bucky and I'm like oh shit he's got like an 11 picture deal like Sebastian Stan I'm like oh fuck

that's amazing cool they killed him great Wanda I'm like oh fantastic she's like a bit character oh wow they're actually doing this this is impressive Black Panther goes I'm like, oh, fantastic. She's like a bit character. Oh, wow, they're actually doing this. This is impressive.

Black Panther goes. I'm like, okay, yeah, no, this isn't sticking. Yeah, never mind. I remember Bucky died. Zoe was like, huh? And I was like, that's pretty funny because whatever. But I'm like, Bucky's not really dead. No way.

And then it was like Wanda died. She was like, huh? And I'm like, okay. And then everyone else who died her like gasp became blast yeah just kill everyone

it doesn't matter anymore okay you know they just if they had maybe chosen different ones like with Mantis and Drax

I was like oh fuck okay cool but then it's like Peter Quill I'm like oh yeah no yeah

but even as soon as Gamora was gone you're like that can't I was like no brave I assume Gamora stays dead. Nah.

Of all the characters... Okay, who do you reckon is going to stay dead? Because I reckon Loki and Gamora. Yeah. Loki, definitely. I don't think Gamora. Everyone who died before... It'll be some fucking thing

where they can bring back everyone who died... From the cliff. How about this bullshit, right? Not a bit. Because it's got to do with the Soul Stone or something wanky, it's like Gamora... We still don't know what the Soul Stone does either.

Gamora is as an angel last or some shit. Oh, fuck. Will, like, sacrifice her actual essence so she can't be brought back from the death to, like, resurrect Dickhead. But she's a guardian of the galaxy. Yeah, now she's a guardian of life. Do you know how many guardians of the galaxy there have been?

They'll just grab her and all the way. Gamora's a fucking... Oh, they... Yeah, they do. They might swap her I feel like everyone likes her. Yeah, they do. They might swap her out for Nebula. Yeah. Plus, like, Nebula's great, yeah. Plus, Gamora's, like, arc is kind of dumb.

It's like, ooh, you meet her, she's like, Thanos is a bad bloke, blah, blah, blah, blah, dead. And then you find out that she was hiding the Soul Stone, and then she realized that her... Although, she has a sad end to her arc, which would be weird for... If it wasn't Marvel making it. I'd be like, yeah, I reckon she's done, but you can't have her arc end with

she fucked up. That was the funniest scene. She's like giving him sass. And I'm just like, you dumb fuck. You are the dumbest fuck right now. What's it like to be having the dumbest fuck grin? Gamora. What's it like to be having the dumbest fuck grin?

Oh my god, what a dumb fuck. Pushed in. What she should have done is pushed Thanos in, but she didn't love Thanos. Like Red Skull, this Nazi, I love him! Yeah, this is my favorite Nazi ever. Kicked in. Got the soul stone. It's very funny to imagine

like I'm at the edge of that and fucking Red Skull, Red Skull's in the movie by the way Red Skull's like You gotta push in someone you love I'm like It spoils that of all things Can I run dives? Red Skull's in the movie

Can I love you Red Skull? No What have I learned? To love you He's got like a montage date with Red Skull Red Skull being like I know this ends with me getting pushed off a cliff I know

But I love you You just force it Red Skull I Red Skull being like, I know this ends with me getting pushed off a cliff. I know, but I love you. And then you just, you just force it. Red Skull, I'll be so good to you. Yeah, go on. I just remembered

because it was one thing I didn't like. The same scene plays out between multiple characters 800,000 times. Why? Why? Because Peter-

I love my sister slash maybe love him. What? I don't remember. Oh, no, wait, no,

two different things. I'm not insisting. No, I'm not. I'm sorry. I realise that out of my mouth it sounds like I'm like it's like oh you know

gotta save my fulfilling thing comma or it's like oh my maybe lover is dying yeah yeah yeah not the same it's also like

no also the scene of like if they get me you gotta kill me happens twice and almost an identical thing happens both times and like what sam was saying is that at the start of the movie thanos is like i'll kill thor if you don't give me the tesseract loki and then later on thanos is like i'll kill nebula if you don't

tell me where the soul stone is gamora and hey guys wait wait there's a third version of that yeah i will kill tony stark If you don't give me the time To do Doctor Strange Another brother couple Yeah yeah Well they both play Sherlock Guys United in roles

Can we just Today here in the studio If we're ever in that situation Just let him kill me Yeah look I don't want to be alive that much Yeah I'm fair The only thing is

In the movie twice, people like Peter Quill and Peter Quill tries to kill her. Yeah, and so does Wanda tries to kill Vision, but both times Thanos is like, I'll kill you guys like that. And also both times Thanos kills that person that he saves

himself. Loki's death was relatively gruesome. I was wanting a snap. There was a bit, there was relatively gruesome. I was wanting a snap. There was a pop. I was wanting more of a bigger snap. You wanted a visual snap because there was an audible snap.

There was an audible snap. I feel like it wasn't that audible. It was so audible. Maybe I'm deaf as shit. It wasn't like a It was so audible Maybe I'm deaf as shit Maybe I'm deaf as shit No it was like a It wasn't like a It was like a It was like a Like a

Because You weren't in doubt Yeah Visually his neck Didn't look broken But like you kind of Visually his neck Broke

No no no That's what I mean Like he didn't have Like a limp neck But the noise was enough To be like Oh you're not got it He's fucking dead

I'm saying it was great I just wanted a bit more Did you I was gonna be a dick But I won't I was going to be a dick, but I won't. I was going, oh, Loki died. Did you not get that? Did it not... Was the pop not...

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I've got some terrible news for you. I thought he was the hero of the story. Did not Loki save the day at the end? He's going to be the journey of the man in the fleece, yeah? Yeah. Yeah.

I like how Doctor Strange... It's best if we leave him in this illusion. yeah yeah I like how dr. strange best if we leave him in this illusion proved himself really useless in this film no he was also the hero he also where he's the one that's done everything because he said he said the whole thing

up yeah he's waiting already there's only one way for them to win and they've done it now so yeah yeah I guess but I mean like in every encounter dr. strange a shit I just thought that was hilarious. At the start, you're like, everyone's showing off their powers, except Doctor Strange, who's fallen over. Oh, everybody's throwing off their powers, except Doctor Strange, who's fucked up again. Hulk wasn't in this one.

What a klutz. Yeah, there was no Hulk. There was no Hulk. Oh, wait, no, there was Hulk at the very start. Did they explain why he can't do it? Yeah. Well, no, but you assume. In Ragnarok, it's the opposite problem. Yeah. Because he got beaten. Because he got beaten do it? Yeah. Well, no, but you assume. In Ragnarok, it's the opposite problem.

Yeah. Because he got beaten. Because he got beaten by Thor. Yeah. Thanos. Thanos is my Thor. Hulk got beaten by Thanos and now Hulk's sulking. Yeah.

Oh, yes. That's what it is. Hulk's sulking. All right. Okay. But also, I think they might also be just the same way that they ended Age of Ultron where they were like, everyone was like, oh, my God, Hulk going to space. Like, Hulk's not necessarily going to space, unless maybe he is.

Are we brave enough to do this? Because in the comics, Hulk and Bruce Banner split. Multiple times. Yeah. It just happens. Or it might be the kind of thing where, like, because that's like a big part of the Hulk comics is them working out their issues. So maybe they'll get a solo Hulk film in the future that's like Hulk getting some therapy

or whatever. Or we won't, because they'll end the universe after fucking Avengers 4, and then they'll just make the sequels they want and be like, don't worry about the rest of the stuff. Yeah, that's true. Possibly. I just assumed, my reading of that was that Hulk was a little bit of a sulker. Yeah, just to make the

dramatic reveal at some later point. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because he got beaten by Thanos. And like, in Hulk's mind, Hulk never been beaten. So this is Hulk being like, Hulk, shit. Hulk, yeah. Because Hulk no longer got angry. Hulk just, yeah.

But Hulk got beaten heaps of times. He got beaten by the Hulkbuster. No, he didn't. Not in Hulk's mind. Hulk won. Hulk got knocked out, and that's cheating. Yeah. Hulk kicked the shit out of him. Hulk never ate shit like he did in this

fight. That is true. Moses McCain was with Thor and Thor did win but not in Hulk's eyes. Hulk won. Well, because Hulk almost died at the start of this until Heimdall was like, catch you later Hulk. Yeah. And Hulk went for his space. Do you think this film

has done a weird thing where like, because it has been such high stakes, like the low stakes movies are going to be a bit weird. Now, like I was chatting to Adam,

I'm like, it's weird that Ant-Man and the Wasp is largely about corporate espionage. That's a weird afterchaser. But I feel like it's the only, like I'm excited

for them to do that because fuck a bigger planet. No, like, now blow up oh god oh i'm with you i'm like they can blow up five planets who cares make it emotional make it honestly like your girlfriend's gonna cheat on you and cry about that yeah yeah yeah like yeah no i'm with you like honestly if i could get more movies i mean whatever like uh that's also, that's okay. Yeah. Also, I think as soon as Black Panther disappeared into mist, that was like, okay, yeah, they're not going to do this.

But then if they hadn't have done Peter Parker and Peter Quill and all the others, I would have been like, oh, shit, what? But the fact that they did that I thought was very, very odd. But I loved Peter's death scene. That was beautiful. It was all right was it was all right well all right i liked peter's death scene it was very very good but the only problem was because it was the last one you knew it meant nothing you know i should have done that one first because it

was like a good one but it was you know at that point it had the same problem that the end of time part two the Doctor Who episode that some people still really love has where it's just you're saying there's a montage of you saying goodbye

to characters you like that you know are coming back later but not even necessarily coming back later but just characters you like that you're like

oh okay so the next scene oh there's people in it okay they're going okay cool and again oh goodbye bye

imagine if we'd just gone flash to Tony and it'd just been Tony covered like surrounded by dust and it's him and gamora being like shit yeah because we've never sorry been like shit because again you're right at that point it sort of lost its impact and just and again this would be may again depending what comes after it but it's like it unfortunately it loses its impact because this film isn't made in a vacuum and just these death scenes while they're meant

to be gut-wrenching i mean to be like punching you like oh what's going to happen it's just unfortunately like the comic book nerd in me or the movie going sort of um nerd in me is like oh this is i was thinking about that too because i think to put that in perspective i reckon we've just ruined all these for ourselves because we can't help but check what's happening but like even a guy i'm mates with who isn't geeking out about it, he would be so blown away by so much of what's happening in this movie. No idea what's happening. So opening the film with Loki's death as a big thing

was probably a bad move as Adam or Jackson, someone after the movie pointed out, he has died in three films. As the movie points out. Yeah. Yeah. He keeps dying. You should have swapped him and

heimdall around i reckon heimdall dies as well yeah heimdall dies but heimdall's like they play up loki's death like it means more but i think it's because look he's definitely dead this time definitely dead is he dead has to be dead yeah he's definitely dead this time is gamora definitely dead gamora is definitely not dead so i reckon gamora she's probably i reckon she's not dead dead but she's gonna come back reckon she's not dead dead, but she's going to come back, but she's going to stay dead. I like that they played with the audience,

because the only time that I heard, apart from Zoe's gasps, which she was the only one doing. Because she loves Sebastian Stan. She does. Every time he was on screen, she was like, just hugging herself.

With joy. That's a nice way of putting what she was doing. That was lowbrow even for plumbing the death let's go back about coming five times yeah yeah a gentleman's discussion how many times could you come if you clicked um fuck what was i saying oh yeah the only time there was a big audible gasp in the cinema that wasn't just zoe was it looked like tony stark was going to be like killed in a slow and painful way and the movie took that away from us which is both good because it played on the audience's like it was the same thing where the audience had an idea of who was going to die like if you'd asked anyone who knew

anything about these films not just like your good friend who went to the movies and is going to be mortified by this i'm sure there's plenty apart from anyone who's listening to this podcast to be honest but we're all united in our desensitized experience this echo chamber fucking rules fuck tweet me about how unshocked you were and if you were shocked i'll be shocked i am now going to get a whole bunch of tweets saying I am shocked

but also now I'm not because I called them out on it already now it's a mystery game mystery game mystery game mystery game

what surprised you in this film because again we can't really do things we love things we hate didn't make sense because I think

it was pretty tight in terms of it is just two and a half hours of blokes punching blokes and then dying it's yeah oh hang on but they stopped to say funny things a lot of the time they stop and they're like oh we should probably uh we should probably say something pretty funny now yeah as george pointed out after the film like when we were having a brief talk You guys were probably shitting Yeah chances are

This film is just Marvel literally At it's most Marvel They've taken just the most Marvel Concepts and put them together Not in a bad way It's just like It's something you can do with something like this Because you can't have character arcs or anything

That's why having Thanos have some sort of Thanos I said that weird I love Thanos something like this because you can't have character arcs or anything. That's why having Thanos have some sort of... Thanos. Said that weird. I loved Thanos. Thanos. Thanos. I can't say it anymore.

Thanos. For giving him the only character we didn't really know anything about, an actual arc was pretty... Yeah, that was pretty clever. Thor kind of had an arc where he was just like, I'm ready to die. That's true. It's funny that Thor's just the last Asgardian. The last special Asgardian.

I loved his arc. I know I shouldn't get excited for costumes or whatever, because I kind of get really like, who gives a shit about this particular bleeding edge or whatever? But the moment Thor came down, look, and look, this is the Stormbreaker. And it's like the thing. I'm like, oh, that's sick.

With an axe. Yeah, with the axe. And the six things. And I'm like oh that's sick now with an axe yeah with the axe and like the six like things and I was like yes I was shocked Groot became the handle that was cool

I was like what neat yeah Groot cut off his arm and I wished for the rest of that fight he didn't have an arm but he had two arms

yeah it wasn't they made it seem like a big deal but I'm like Groot can lose bits whenever who cares even in Guardians I mean it was it was a clever move at the last second but it wasn't like a like a sacrifice

and yeah like especially in guardians volume one which it's not called it's called guardians of the galaxy um he loses an arm and he doesn't have an arm for a while yeah that's true but he's big groot at that point maybe that's a change that's still growing he's older like if during he was yeah you lose a ball you just get an arm pops back in with look if during puberty you lose a ball you just get another one he just pops back in look if you get a baby

cut a baby's arm off baby grows that arm in about two weeks sometimes it grows back two though and you gotta be careful whereas a man if we cut our arm off it takes us like

three years yeah a long time or a trip to a quick trip to the hospital all the more frustrating surely something else surprised me in this movie

I think yeah it would have liked a bit more of a sacrifice from Groot now that you mentioned it. It just was like, I was like, neat. I'm not surprised that Groot didn't. I'm just really shocked that Groot, out of all characters, didn't sacrifice Groot. I wasn't so surprised. I'm like, no, I wanted more suffering.

I'm just joking. I know you're busting my chops. I get it. I don't know if this is hinting at something for the next movie, but didn't they make it very much seem like she got the mind stone out when she was working feverishly as he was walking in? No. It really hinted like very strongly. Yeah, it hinted something. That she did

something there. Really? When? Strongly, which she clearly didn't. Suri? Suri? Do you mean when Suri was working on the thing and the people came in? Suri. It sort of worked super fast and kind of finished. No, she was just shitting herself and then she was like, you've got to get rid of it so they can't touch it. That's Siri. It works super fast and kind of finished. I think she was just shitting herself, and then she was like, you've got to get rid of it so they can't touch it. That's how I read that.

Okay. So I woke him back up, I guess. Well, because I was like, well, I knew, and I guess maybe that's the movie, the Marvel boy in me, but I'm like, I know that Thanos is going to get the stone, and they're not going to be like, we destroyed it. Chekhov's gun, by the way. That's sort of the reference I was going to say.

Ah. Yeah. So you all knew it. Okay, good. But when she took, to be like, we destroyed it. Chekhov's gun, by the way. That's sort of the reference I was going to say. Ah. Yeah. So you all knew it. Okay, good. But when she took it, I'm like, yeah, she just doesn't want them accessing it. Okay. Yeah. I was surprised that Captain America didn't get much screen time.

Yeah, me too, actually. It's going to be the next one, one of the main ones. Yeah. I think another two and a half hours, though. Well, they'll call up Scott and they'll call up Hawkeye. Yeah. They'll go get- They're fighting. What are they get fighting what are they doing just fucking with their family they just gotta just hanging out for a couple of hours whatever ant-man's up to his probably getting small and then big again

and then maybe too big fucking they answer that being like after the um the accords they're like fuck this we want to spend time with our family. That's very funny. I like that they have powers. They're like, yeah, we've got powers, and clearly shit's fucked. Nah, not our problem. Hawkeye? What powers does Hawkeye have? Hey, what fucking- So Thanos could punch the shit out of Hulk, but then he can't really punch Captain America.

Don't get me wrong, I love Captain America. Yeah, yeah, I know, but you're like- This seems like a disproportionate- And also, killing the children of Thanos. They struggle with all the superpowered ones but the ones they lose to were the humans it seems a bit no i love that i loved when black widow killed that one i'm like hell yeah humanity fuck these superpowered cunts that's genuinely the feeling i had that was the only moment where i felt victory. I think, although... Oh, wait. How do you feel about...

Would you rate superpowered cunts including Captain America or not including Captain America? Including Captain America. Okay, cool. Because I'm pretty sure the Marvel Cinematic Universe hands the Black Widow also as a bit super soldier. But significantly less. Yeah, she's not...

She was the least powered person there. Therefore, humanity will take her. Humanity wins again. Fuck you, aliens. Yeah, we won. Fuck you, aliens. That's a weird decision they did, isn't it? But yeah, the random death of the most powerful

and the main focus of the children of Thanos, that telekinetic guy. He just died like that. That was great. He just got sucked out and died. They just showed him floating off. It's like, uh-huh. That just died like that. That was great. I just got sucked down and died and they just showed him floating off and it's like, haha. But that was also a weird shot to include

because you see Thor in space heaps. He just chills though. He can fly around in space. Yeah. Well, I guess you just never see him fly in space. But you're right. It implies that he can fly in space. Loki also survives space. They're chill in space. Asgardians don't breathe. That's fair enough. They're chill in space As guardians Don't breathe

That's fair enough They're specialized guardians He also gets hit by a sun And his clothes don't burn off Imagine if they did Imagine just I wish Nude Thor

Nude Thor holding a fucking axe And that's why he has to get new clothes Yeah that would make sense That's why it's weird They didn't do that to be honest Come on Bloody Disney Be brave

Symbol symbolic you know like burn everything off you're a new person I'm ascended Thor or whatever it is transcendent Thor is loose runic Thor

maybe was there too many was there any abs in this who was shirtless there was not many I don't think anyone was shirtless in this movie which is weird what the hell kind of

a movie is this weirdly enough that's only ever happened once before in a Marvel film and I can't remember which one it is and it's a strange one. It might be Winter Soldier.

Like, there's a movie that doesn't have abs. There is only one movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe prior to this that doesn't have a shirtless scene. Either the male hero

or the male villain takes their shirt off. I'm sad that we didn't get, like, Star-Lord or Dumpy Body shirtless. Yeah, me too.

As if we didn't have, like, Hemsworth hugging Black Panther. I don't know. Everyone's just fucking shit. Can we just get all the buff guys over here for a second? Yay, shirts. They fell off in the fight. And now hogs.

That's going to be a favorite scene. I don't know why they didn't put that in, to be honest. Imagine like, oh, something I found hilarious was the Hulk's head poorly CGI'd in the Hulkbuster arm at the back. You're like, oh, this is, this does not look good. I know, look, CGI is, or like, you know, some like, whatever. It's just like, this is, now it's dated. Yeah. As I'm watching it, it's dated.

We saw it on day one. Yeah. Because it just looks silly as well. Just gets a little head in a suit. Because he's got, he's a pretty little man as silly as well. It's got a little head in a suit. He's a pretty little man as is. He's got a little head. He's in Hulkbuster. No, I know, but that makes it funnier.

Even if you're just looking at him, you're like, Mark Ruffalo has a little head is what you're saying. He does have a little head, yeah. And quite round like a plum. He's got a bit of a plum head. He's famous. He's a plum head. I like a lot of the kind of like Thanos is coming and like, who?

Yeah, that was pretty good. A lot of that kind of stuff. I did like when a lot of them were introducing each other, like, who? I loved Thor being like, we have, who's this? No, Hulk being like, we have an ant guy and a spider guy now. Yeah, yeah. That was great. That was pretty good.

Yeah, overall, good shit. I don't think I was surprised by anything. Because a lot of the internet had been yelling for like eight years that, what if that ends in a new clicks? I mean, it doesn't end there. I wish it had. Nah. I would have been so into that.

Yeah, because you want to see it. I don't. I didn't. Here I am before you. I did not want that. Look, you know what? I agree with Jack. Jackson, Zamit, you're forgetting one very big issue.

And I've experienced it firsthand. George has experienced it firsthand through his good friend that watches these movies but doesn't understand what's going on. If you just end with him clicking, if you just end with him clicking, people would be like, what happened? I don't get it. I understand that.

No, no, they would understand. Just people wouldn't appreciate the significance. But even we wouldn't. It'd be like, he clicked, but like, did he really? Well, then you're like, I'll find out in Avengers 4. Are they going to do the Borg ship in Star Trek? Sorry, that's too obscure a reference. But maybe with the Borg power up and they like fire

and that's how it ends and they're about to get blown up. And then the next episode is just like oh the gun didn't work just cuts back to Thanos being like I guess yeah yeah he's like it doesn't work it ends with a clicking

first shot of the next movie first scene is directed by Ryan Johnson that's where I would have been suspicious of the mind gem not being the real one and so it clicks and doesn't work

that would have been my theory yeah so it had to show I reckon too yeah I don't like them not if they click if this look

post credit scene exactly the same love it if this had been a comic book Jack it would have ended right in that click exactly

exactly but yeah movie needs to show a bit more yeah I would have been happy with it but also

I think I would have been annoyed because in this film it does say all Thanos needs to do is click and it's like an oddly specific thing to say

and it's said like three times. It's funny because like was that Thanos' plan? He's like I will click to make it happen because he can do it any time. The click is his choice. That's funny. No, click is only when he gets all the gems. Yeah but like he could just like make a fist or something.

He could give the fucking peace sign. Click is funny but he's got to the fucking peace sign yeah it's funny that he's like he chose a click and somehow everybody's like he's gonna do it oh he should do like the crotch thrust boom like 90s wrestling yeah slap his thighs who was it again open palms show his cock to the world before they die oh fuck who was that Scotty Too Hotty or something

Grandmaster Sexay those are two real wrestlers Scotty Too Hotty's a firefighter now wasn't he dating Stephanie McMahon for a bit Rakeesh like firefighter now wasn't he wasn't he one of them was like sort of dating stephanie mcmahon for a bit anyway tweet in whoever went to look at someone else x in the name or some shit yeah i don't know we're just gonna get dead air if i try and think about it anyway i also like that when thanos was like he's like first of step one, do it with a click because that looks cool.

Second of all, when people disappear, they don't just disappear. I want them to disappear like they're becoming burnt paper. Sick. Some people disappear less quick than others. Spider-Man, give him a while. Make him hurt. Make him hurt. Other people, you know, just like that.

Some people longer. Sweet. There was a lot of flash to it, which is just very funny. I like that, like, Falcon, no one saw him. Yeah, Falcon just disappeared. Which is a weird scene. What's his name? Looking for him. He's like, hey, where are you? Why disrespect

Falcon like that for the end of this movie? Yeah movie Fucking PTSD and now this Shawn Michaels It's part of the formation of the D generation Which was a wrestling thing apparently That I vaguely remember It's funny that you had to look that up It would have killed me if I didn't know

Because it was something that I knew That I had at least read or seen once If it's something I don't know I don't care But yeah anyway You know you've got the knowledge in you it was something that I knew that I had at least read or seen once. If it's something I don't know, I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, anyway, you know,

you've got the knowledge in you. Oh, is the, is the dwarves in the star the same in the comic books? I don't know. I was wondering that. I liked that they made Peter Dinklage real big, but then still called him a dwarf.

Weird. That's why it has to be in the comic book. Surely. Yeah. Like if not, then if you were Peter Dinklage you'd be like that's fucking rude yeah I just don't know what it is he's just come out of three billboards

as well which is a bit rough on him being smaller that's what he does it was X-Pac the wrestler now that we've got that sort of thing X-Pac but Sean did it as well God I can rest easy now if you're listening if anyone doesn't talk for about a minute,

they're probably looking up a wrestler's name. Yeah, that was very weird. That has to be in a comic book. Because I don't know if they're like, okay, Peter Dinklage, you'll be playing a dwarf. Peter Dinklage is like, okay, yeah, sure, whatever. And they're like, no, no, no. He's huge.

So you mean a giant? No, no, no. What? Peter Dinklage did seem like he didn't want to be there or be there I liked his oh I didn't

but I didn't like his voice because it just felt like he was pretending to be a giant you know he was pretending to be a giant but his voice sounded like

he was pretending he was like I am a big man yeah it was very weird hey was it just weird did Mark Ruffalo slur a lot of his words in this movie?

It sounded like when he was explaining, sometimes the acting in this was not great. It actually got a lot better, but in the first meeting with Doctor Strange in the Sanctum Sanctorum, whatever, it just sounds like Bruce Banner was so not panicked. He's like, you've got to be scared of Thanos. He's coming and he's a big problem.

You guys got to take it seriously. It was only, yeah. You know what I mean? Felt a bit weird. I think the thing is that all of these people are just hanging out all the time. So none of them are actually acting anymore. Something I didn't like is Iron Man's suit is silly now. I like Iron Man.

What are they going to do with everything? He has a different power now, and it's silly, and it's not... I liked it when it was practical. Actually, that's one thing I... That nanobots thing, yeah. Now it's like, oh, he can make it a hammer, and this is a big foot now. I didn't like two things about that. One, that Pepper explicitly said,

hey, remember in Iron Man 3 when you got that fixed? I saw that film. Yep. Hey, audience. That felt a bit too much. Yeah. Brave, but a bit too much. Because again, I remember you being like,

you looked at it like, hang on a second, he's got that. And then Pepper instantly answers it. It's like, well, yeah, it was also weird that they meant that I yelled it, and then Pepper yelled back. like, well, yeah, it was also weird that they meant that I yelled it, and then Pepper yelled back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've forgotten what the other part was about Iron Man that I didn't like. His suit? No, blank.

I got too upset about it. Glasses. No, his glasses. I like that he threw his glasses away. That was funny. Yeah, that was great. He put them on to check out what was going on. Had a moon on him.

Oh, yeah, had a moon. That was pretty good. That was cool. Yeah, that was pretty good that was cool yeah that was neat the power i guess this is a problem with most superhero films is the power levels and there's no real consistency yeah absolutely because it's like in guardians it's kind of like um okay so this one gem can like touch a planet and it gets destroyed yeah and here it's like cap no iron man's shield can stop it yeah and. And then also Cap can hold it.

Hold the gauntlet. Yeah. That'll be of significance, I feel. But also Thanos is like, I'm going to crush you. Oh, you're braver than I thought. Yeah, he was a bit surprised by that, wasn't he? That was like a hint. He just quietly knows more.

He's just done more research. I like a lot about how Thanos knew. I'm talking about Thanos. Thanos. Thanos. a lot about how Thanos knew... Thanos. Thanos. Thanos. Heinous Thanos. I love that... That's a better villain name.

You can be like, that's a better villain. It's me, Heinous Thanos. I'm heinous. Wait till you see what I'm doing to get those gems. I want the infinity cocks. Or something. The infinity cock ring. Put it on my pinky.

So yes, when Thanos was like, even though he knew he was going to win, he was just like, I've got a bit of respect for you. You fought valiantly, so it's pretty good. Whatever. I'm not going to kill you, all right?

Because you're all right. You're going to die anyway. Because a lot of, so, like, whatever. Not gonna kill you, alright? Because, like, you're alright. You'll die anyway. Because he's, like, a lot of his stuff was, like, he felt like a villain where it was, like, this isn't personal. Yeah, yeah. This is just, like, what I need to do. And I quite like that scene where he's, like, killed Gamora as much as I was just muttering in my breath,

you dumb fuck. You are the dumbest fuck right now. I think the only thing that surprised me was Red Skull. Yeah, that was a shock and it really shouldn't have been, but it was. And then it shocked me again that it wasn't Hugo Weaving, but then I was unshocked. Yeah. I was like, oh wait, he hated him. We were laughing in the car ride

back at the fact that, like, what if he's still a Nazi? It's just such a funny opinion to still hold. I have seen nothing but the infinite cosmos. And I still believe that white Aryan human beings are the master race. Like, what, Red Skull? You're not even that, Red Skull.

What? Actually, weirdly enough, Red Skull didn't seem like a bad guy in this, which is bad because he was a Nazi. But also, Red Skull, he was a reformed Nazi. In the first Captain America movie, he's like, Nazis are weak. I'm going to be the best Nazi. Does he say it with an Italian accent?

I'm going to be the best Nazi. Who are the best Nazis? Ramiro Italia. That's right, the Roma skull. What was that? The Italian word for red. Damn it. What was that? The Italian word for red. Damn it. Was that what we were losing?

Ah, no. Join the ally. Join the ally. The Italians, they were never Nazis. They were never allies. They were always red skulls. Magic science team. They were always on the winning side, Jack.

Always on the winning side. He keeps saying you weren't surprised. So you knew about what Black Panther and not surprised in a sense that's surprising yeah

okay I mean I probably mean like more of like things take me like because like I was surprised that they killed Black Panther but also

because of where he dies in the film it's not really a surprise because you realize at that point oh these people are coming back there'd already been

too many deaths. Yeah. And everything else killed kind of the beats you were expecting. No, no, no. Black Panther. As soon as they killed Black Panther, I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, that's what you do. Oh, wait.

Who did they kill before that? Wanda. It went Bucky, Wanda, Black. Okay. Yeah. Because the first two, I was like, yeah, yeah. Actually, yeah. The Black Panther thing.

So I guess, George, you've called me out and you're right. For the first half of Black Panther's death, I was shocked. And the second half, I'd made peace with it. They're just going to kill a bunch of people they're going to bring back. Yeah. Because as soon as they hit me, you're right for the first half of black panther's death i was shocked and the second half i'd made peace with them they're just gonna kill a bunch of people they're gonna bring back yeah yeah because as soon as they hit me like okay you look he's actually movie made too much money not gonna happen yeah gomorrah's gomorrah's death surprised me actually so i guess that's not even when i was like there's no way they kind of killed her i hope they have me too i i don't i don't think they have but i I hope they do. They got too much of a... Because Guardians would be like... Yeah, that's what I mean.

They'll just get a new person. Chemistry and all that stuff. Props to her as a character. And the person playing her. But like... She's a female actor. Who here loves Gamora? Hands up in this room if Gamora is your favorite Guardian.

From an attractiveness point of view? No, I mean from a character point of view. From a character point of view based on how attractive she is? She's my favourite character in Guardians 2 by a long shot. Yeah, she was actually pretty good in Guardians 2.

She's like one of the only good things about that movie. And she's good... Why are you yelling at me because you didn't like that film? Yeah, I watched it again and changed my mind. It wasn't good.

It's the worst film in Phase 3. Ooh. There it is. Bold. Not really. Does that include Strange? yeah I watched it again and changed my mind it's bad it's the worst film in phase 3 ooh bold not really does that include Strange? yeah I love Strange what? oh yeah actually yeah

no I only like I like it for one reason cooked visuals yeah it doesn't matter oh I love the cooked visuals in this cooked visuals in this for one second

yeah the multi yeah but in Doctor Strange the part where he's looking at his hand and then his hand grows hands

and his fingers grow oh it's good that is good fuck I love cooked visuals quality stuff yeah no cause also Doctor Strange the part where he's looking at his hand and then his hand grows hands and his fingers grow oh it's good that is good fuck I love cooked visuals quality stuff yeah no because also

Doctor Strange I'm talking about a movie everyone you've already heard me talk about this Doctor Strange is sick

in the sense that yes it just follows all the same beats as every superhero movie that's fine but it makes

it weird to watch and I like that what's the villain in Doctor Strange no the end villain no no no

he's psychic. Mordu? Cassius. No, no, no, no, no. The sidekick. The guy. Mondu? No.

Mordu? Yeah, Mordu. The guy who steals his sorcerer. Is it now that Mordu's kicking around being like, I'm going to kill everyone. Oh, half the world's dead. Wasn't he like, I'm going to kill everyone and get the time? Oh wasn't he like i'm gonna kill everyone and get the times oh no he's gonna kill everyone who's a magician his plan was sorcerers are no more which fair enough okay get rid of them weird to start with the one you're gonna

cripple though but also clever because probably the weakest sorcerer that's true like because he doesn't actually use any of his powers anymore he's just like i've focused all of it on being able to walk again. So the biggest dick move, but also probably warming your way up to fighting Sorcerer Supreme, I guess. What are we talking about? Do you remember Doctor Strange's post-credits sequence? That's what we're talking about. A deep cut.

Imagine, like, I want to kill some sorcerers. And you go, like, I got Doctor Strange. Yep. Or a cripple. Sorcerer Supreme or a bloke in a workshop. I feel like I could take off a cripple, you know? Do you think that there's going to be a weird scene in the new Spider-Man movie where he's like, I don't want this suit? Or is he going to be Iron Spider? I like the Iron Spider. No, they must be getting rid of that suit.

But they'll be getting rid of it for Spider-Man 2. Spider-Man 2 is in London for some reason sick hell yeah like Agent Cody Banks Destination London imagine they call it

Spider-Man Homecoming 2 Destination London imagine it's a crossover what about London Has Fallen another one of those London Has Fallen is the sequel too yeah

fuck I wish London Has Fallen was called White House Has Fallen 2 London Has Fallen but no but surely they'll get rid of the Iron Spider suit well yeah of course it would just be too powerful like they've got to like they've got to power down all these characters for their solo films um what they'll do like iron man the

new not i'm in the next captain america he'll get his shield back is there gonna be another captain america that probably i don't think so i thought that was that he's the one that's he's number one on the deadpool bucky captain america yeah there'll be a bucky captain america i don't think so. I thought he's the one that sees number one on the Deadpool. Bucky Captain America. Yeah, there'll be a Bucky Captain America. I don't think they'll call it that. Captain Bucky America. Bucky America. Bucky up, America.

Bucky America, get bucked. That's what the trailer will say. It'll be a fellow being like, it'll be like an 80s movie trailer. Bucky up, America. Bucky's back. It'll be good. And this time he's brought his trusty shields and riding his horse also called Bucky starring Tony Danza as Bucky

horse yes that'll be a funny thing to watch everybody kind of lose their power do you think after Avengers 4 there'll be like a massive shift I think Avengers 4 will probably look Avengers 4 just avengers 3 the second half yeah and also this is legitimately a spoiler for avengers 4 i guess so maybe stop listening i know this is a weird thing to announce in this format but i just really don't want to deal with the hassle all right i'm going to talk about there we go perfect no. No, no, no.

Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. That's what the book means. You don't want to hear about what happens in Avengers 4, which everyone here clearly wants to hear anyway. But yeah. So there's time travel and they've reshot scenes from the previous films. So I think what's going to happen is

you're going to end up with a Marvel Cinematic Universe that basically stops itself from happening. Oh, okay. I'm a big fan of that. All of it. Yeah. I'm a big fan of that. All of it. Big fan of that. At first, the only scene I'd heard about was that they'd reshot the Battle of New York. Battle of London.

But there's also been scenes of, oh, they've spotted Cap on set in his 1940s gear with the rectangle shield. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they think that it's going to go all the way back to, because the Tesseract's in that. But they're going to like So they think that it's going to go all the way back to, because the Tesseracts and that. But they're going to like.

So they will probably. They're going to kill a cap back in 1940. I don't think they'll kill him off. I think he'll die in the present. Kill him off in 1940. Yes, please. So he'll grow old with lots of name. Yeah. He'll grow old with her.

Probably. Yeah. It'll be a nice name. It'll just give lots of people like, oh, and then you can get like his tombstone. Yeah. Where he's like, he died of old age in the 80s. Died a grandpa is what it'll say. Rest in peace, Steve Captain America Rogers.

Okay, speaking of that though. Died a grandpa. I just saw it because for some reason, I watched an Honest Trailer thing and it had Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. And I was like, is that show still going? Then I looked up what the show's going on in that show because it's like five seasons.

And now it's like in the future in that show and they're fighting its aliens in like the 29th century or something. Ghost Riders on that show? But it's like, are they keeping track of what's, is that connecting back or have they decided,

no, that's- Do you want a fun answer to that or the actual answer? Because I can make something up that's fun or I can tell you why that actually happened. No, no. I don't care about what I, why it actually happened in this show.

No, no, no. How does it actually connect to the wider universe? Why the show has gone so... Give us a real answer. All right. So there was two bosses of Marvel. Ike Perlmutter and...

Kevin Feige. Graham Bates. Ike Perlmutter, notorious cunt. I'm reading a book about the bankruptcy of Marvel back in the 90s. Is it Ike Perlmutter?

Ike Perlmutter is a big part in that thing. I think, like, very early on. But it's, like, he used to own Toy Biz. Yeah. Which was owned, like, 40% by Marvel. And, like, apparently it's, like, it's sort of starting to paint the picture, like, where he's not that much of a cheapskate. It's just, like, everyone around him was a dumb fuck. No, I think he's very, like he he was trying to drag the films in

different directions so it's more his personal bias rather than him being bad with money just i think he's part of the reason why there was no female solo film straight off the bat and also yeah he's he's very conservative and he's also very like very uh count your cents kind of thing yeah so what happened with so up until i think it might have been age of ultron i think that's when the falling out happened. They were working together. So Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. followed Avengers, the movie universe. But then they split and Ike Perlmutter got the TV shit and Kevin Feige is only in control of the movie shit.

So he's just gone and done his own thing. So they're not connected anymore. No. I mean, if you ask Marvel, they'd be like, yeah, loosely. If you ask me,

no. Also, don't talk to me. Leave me alone. Who are you? Where did you find me? I'm just a guy. I'm just a fucking fella

that doesn't want to talk about this shit anymore. I like that you asked. It's good to know. I'm glad I know that now. Where did you find me? How did you that now. Where did you find me? How did you find me? Where did you find me? Where was I?

Where am I? That was a good gag with why Gamora? That was good. See, that was... We came too quippy. That wasn't... What was your gag? I don't think that's any clever gag.

That's not quippy. That's just... That's a quip. It's silly. It's quip city. What was your least favorite quip? A quip is more like... Hang on.

That's like all Marvel jokes. A quip is like an Arnie line. A quip is like an Arnie line. A quip. What was your least favorite Quip? A Quip is more like, uh-huh. Hang on, that's like all Marvel jokes. A Quip is like an Arnie line. Because that's not a thing, that's not even him misunderstanding a metaphor or a simile, which is Drax's character trait. That's just like,

this is a funny thing to say in this situation, so he said it. Hey, George, how many comedy awards have you won? How many have you been nominated for?

Give me something here, buddy. How many good reviews have you had for your stand-up show? Several. Yeah, several. There you go. How is Jackson explaining comedy wrong to you then? Was it good? Look, I've got to be honest.

He's not completely off the mark. Gotcha. Bam. With the fact that, yes, man, it wasn't really, it was for the sake of the joke that he's saying it. And that just bugs the hell out of me. What I loved about- So it is a quip.

What? Yeah, gotcha Peter Parker Spider-Man because the only reason it's not is because we've already established that Drax for some reason

is sort of mentally disabled that's what we've done already he's just a very like a literal person but that was not an example it's no longer based on anything

he's just an idiot he just says things yeah yeah so that's why I'm thinking it's not because when I'm like a quip's more like an arty line where it's like you're you're rubbish you're luggage and shooting a crocodile or something like that's what i picture a quip as no any marvel joke is basically quip uh no no no give me your least favorite one what was the one that hurt the most

it was fucking painful jackson's garbage quip corner oh fuck i'm trying to think 95 of the things peter quill said made me want to die when he was like that plan but not that plan my plan because it's better and your plan sucked i literally wished i was like thanos wished me away with it um there was every single moment where a very serious thing would happen then ah like after every single fucking thanos child died the person that killed him couldn't just let him be dead they had to say something like when fucking black widow and the other marvel ladies killed the lady villain she dies and he's like oh cool that was a sick way to die but then

black widow's got to be like gross and you're like why why not just let that scene sit as it was emotionally there's no real impact. It's okay. But there could have been. But they detracted from any potential emotional thing by being like, this is a gag moment. Hit me up. We're going to do a brief movie maintenance within A Plum in the Death Star.

This is actually episode 150 for them. Surprise. Wrecked it. Your last one was my pitch. So imagine Avengers Infinity War but every single time a character dies so no quip

cut out all the quips yep replace it with nothing silence yeah but every time a character dies one character looks to the other

so the people involved in the death yeah look at each other like oh shit we just killed a guy but serious like it's sad every time

genuinely great perfect great pitch that would be like you know what's weird that would probably be like an MA movie oh shit, we just killed a guy. But serious. I love it. Like, it's sad. Every time. Genuinely great. Perfect. Great pitch. That would be like, you know what's weird? That would probably be like an MA movie. Oh, shit. Actually, that would be scarring

for people watching this stuff. You know how this film should have had an emotional impact? Peter Parker murdered a person and he's 15. When did he murder a person? The one that got froze by space. Oh, yeah.

Peter Parker's responsible for that being's death. Well, he did. Technically do the deed, did he? Peter Parker's responsible for that being's death. Well, he didn't technically do the deed, did he? Peter Parker's hands are clean! I just reference aliens. If you and your friend that doesn't watch Marvel movies go to the beach and that friend goes too far in the ocean

and you're there with him and he starts to drown and then you just swim back to shore and ignore it Did you kill a guy? No! I think it's more of if you're driving a car Down a freeway And you open up the Passenger side door

And unclip his belt And maybe nudge him a bit And he falls over Into the On your way to see a Marvel film That he has no idea about Because he doesn't usually watch them Or he does watch them

But doesn't care This is a very deep Philosophical question now And you push him into the road Is that your point? That's murder then Or like The three of us are on a pier I'm at the end of. That's murder then. The three of us are on a pier.

I'm at the end of the pier. The four of us are on a pier. I'm at the end of the pier. You three are at the start of the pier and you set the pier on fire. I still die at your hand. You're jumping in the water. Jackson notoriously cannot swim

nor see flames. Nor feel heat. He doesn't know. I think what annoys me about it is that making a joke after would be fine for maybe Tony Stark, Peter Quill, uh, any of the other,

it'd be fine then because they're, those, those characters have been established as being silly people. They're gaggy people. I just didn't, Black Widow has never been the jokester of, I didn't think that as a joke. She makes the gross,

the gross joke for us, the audience her joke she makes the gross the gross joke for us the audience the gross isn't character for Black Widow but I think there is definitely things that you're

shut up Maladie there is definitely things that you're pointing out in scenes like that that happen but there was one like that

Captain America makes jokes fucking Black Panther makes jokes these are characters that are established as serious people

but because Marvel just struggles to let a serious moment be serious they gotta make fucking Black Panther makes jokes. These are characters that are established as serious people but because Marvel just struggles to let a serious moment be serious, they've got to make a quip. Peter Parker's death was serious. Yeah, but everything else Peter Parker did was a gag. But that's fine. Peter Parker's a silly boy. What? They're Lokis. They played that.

They didn't play that for laughs. That was great. That's why I loved Loki's death because it was played so straight. How many do you want in a movie? God. I'm in. And Gamora's we've got two serious ones with no quips thank god

how many do you want in one movie? that's pretty that's so much more that should not be the benchmark Heimdall also fucks a fella off into space while he dies

that's beautiful see we've got three three deaths zero quips I think the quip that works the best though is the one right at the start of the movie that ends to the opening credits. Because that's funny and in character.

Which one was that? And it doesn't feel like it's a joke. Because Bruce Banner's really shaking. He's like, Thanos is coming. And Doctor Strange is like, who? Yeah, that was good. That was good. That was funny.

Because, again, if that happened in real life, that wouldn't be a joke. It's funny, but it's not a joke for the audience. It's actual dialogue. Which is what Spider-Man Homecoming was full of. Those jokes, it was hilarious. Fuck, the best joke in Spider-Man Homecoming is definitely that,

and it feels like a fuck-up. Which one? When Ned is left in front of the window of the class and Peter fucks off to go find the guys downstairs that are... I just watched this film, I haven't had it burnt into my brain. So Peter fucks off downstairs

to find the guys that tried to kill him who are looking for the bomb thing that peter stole accidentally yeah ned is left standing in front of an open classroom window and there's a kid who's like what are you doing and ned's like oh hey what's up the kid's just like pauses for way too long and he's just like points at what he's doing he's like chess it's so funny and it's so weird see that's great that's right oh you know i think he says no he says how that's right net says how are you and the kid just pauses for way too long and he's just like chess fuck big fan see that's great best joke marvel's best joke marvel's best joke marvel quips for me feel like they come out of a machine designed to make quips.

To make you hurt. The Jackson fucker 5000. Producing quip after painful quip. They found a machine that was meant to torture you and realize that it actually makes jokes that people like. And they're like, we could repurpose this. We just need to pray that this Jackson Bailey never sees one of our films it'll kill him. Marvel quip and I'm like

someone's using the quip the Jackson fucker pipe now I have to go that thing is so powerful alright so we've been recording for a while an hour? yeah look we'll just have some concluding thoughts I liked this film it's very very a part one of a two part

what? crazy yeah and wild shocking he misled me when I was like this is going to be a two part movie and Zammett's like nah he said that he goes nah it's actually not because I was told I was informed

because I don't really pay much attention a lot now to like a lot of the media bullshit around these films. And I remember Dusha being like, oh, they've no longer, Avengers, Infinity War Part 2, it's no longer Part 2. It's just, they're taking that away. This is now Infinity War.

I'm like, oh, okay, I guess they're not doing Part 1 and 2 anymore. Sick. And that was my base knowledge. No, it's the same as you. And it did seem a little bit like, could go that way, because all it has to take is like, he doesn't click it and he gets

stabbed and dies, but that would be like a big cop-out. Or like Gamora stabs him halfway through and then it's just like, oh, we did it. That was pretty good. Gamora stabbing. That was also the most gruesome scene of the film in which they used that on an actual death. That was cool. Yeah, that was quite

intense. Yeah, so basically Marvel announced two Avengers films, and then they were like, it's Infinity War, part one and part two. And then after a bit, they're like, it's not part one, part two. These are two standalone films. And the second one's got a title that we can't announce yet because it's a spoiler. It's going to be like, everyone was dead, but now they're good.

Infinity peace. Thanos reigns supreme. Fuck, infinity peace. Magic. Oh, my God. What did we all think of the after credits scene? I thought it was cool. I thought it was neat.

I liked that the thing that he used to contact Captain Marvel was like this weird. Like a pager? Yeah, like it was real retro. I was really into that. Real 90s. I liked Xavit informing everyone in the cinema exactly what that just was, so no one wondered. That was very funny.

He screamed it out. Because this ended, everyone was like, huh? Because it was like the symbol. I was like, it's Captain Marvel. It's fine. I was sitting next to Ryder during that scene. Ryder's like, something better fucking happen. I'm like, what do you think? Nothing's going to I was sitting next to Ryder during that scene. Ryder's like, something better fucking happen. I'm like, what do you think?

Nothing's going to happen? Then, you know, they get out of the car. Everybody's dying because of the click. Ryder's like, well, fucking Nick Fury better not die. Do you think Nick Fury, that's going to be it? And then he pulls out the little pager thing. But then he obviously, of course, he starts to die. Ryder's like, what the fuck?

I'm like, do you think the pager meant nothing? He's like, yes. You're right. Ryder's like, what the fuck? I'm like, do you think the pager meant nothing? He's like, yes. You're right, Rydes. That scene is just, he pulls it out, dies,

the end. Thanos will be back. It just shows a random logo. Yeah, like, Ryder, you win. What a weird decision.

Spider-Man Homecoming ends with a fuck you. Captain America makes a speech about how patience is a virtue, but sometimes it leads to nothing yeah what about Howard the Duck at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy that's right because Howard the Duck

is best friends with Man-Thing which means Man-Thing confirmed from movie 2020 hashtag Man-Thing 2020 let's get it trending I just think that's Donald Trump's re-election campaign I'm gonna pitch campaign I'm gonna pitch political

I'm gonna pitch you an ultimatum I'm listening a Man Thing film comes out in 2020 has Guardians of the Galaxy volume 2 level of quips or Man Thing movie

never gets made never gets made it was not even hesitation I could see in his eyes he did consider it I did, I thought We'd be watching that movie, the quips would be happening The credits would start rolling, you'd turn around

And there would just be a grave With a headstone being like Jackson Bailey died from quips And there'd be a single rose left by my tombstone But somehow it's a bit dusty So it's like you've been dead for a while. Yeah. It's weathered and worn.

Like it's been exposed to the elements. And a bit wet. Like it had rained, but we're like, where did we miss that? Yeah. And I'm still buried in earth, but it's in the middle of the cinema

where a seat would go. Yeah. That's what would happen. My closing thoughts. I really liked the movie. I know I've talked a lot of shit about it, but I really did. I'd give it like talked a lot of shit about it but I really did I'd give it like an 8 out of 10

I think it's just that when it's that long and it features so many Marvel characters it's bound to do everything I love about a Marvel movie and everything I hate about a Marvel movie and the things I hate about a Marvel movie are easier to talk about

so gave me Arse-ache but also gave me Arse-love are my final thoughts on Avengers Infinity War alright well I'll just say yeah I think it's balancing it's juggling an impossible thing

to be great because of what it is but the closest comparison would be like maybe Civil War and I think this probably does a lot better than that in terms of just engagement stuff until we see it again

and then maybe we'll be surprised and better than Avengers Age of Ultron so oh cheers famously a garbage film something to say the ranking is better than some of of Ultron so it might be famously a garbage film so I'm just saying the ranking is better than some of the other ones

which you would have been like ah yeah so in terms of team up definitely in the top half and I don't think anyone's gonna I'd be surprised if anyone's gonna watch that

and not watch the second one you know what I mean so like it's pretty funny to just be like ah the end of this series half the people died

and Tony's still in space yeah i wash my hands but it's a good way to celebrate 10 years it's hooked you enough to be like like i didn't do a bad job yeah it's not like you watch batman versus zoom and you're like am i ever gonna watch justice i think i think the thing about these movies especially like these big kind of team of movies is they're actually just never going to be as good as a winter soldier or the story's too grand. That's what I mean. You've got to simplify it. So for what it was, it didn't add up.

Exactly. I'm upset because I just realised this series is going to conclude on film 22 and that is an even number but it's too close to 20 and I wish they just capped it at 20. And 11 years, not 10. Yeah, that is annoying. They've cooked it. I like the studio I think like Marvel Studios and like the I and the O turned into 10. Yeah, that is annoying. They've cooked it. I like the studio, I think like Marvel Studios

and like the I and the O turned into 10. It's good because it turned into Marvel Stud 10s. That was good, I liked it. Marvel's baseball. How do you reckon the Avengers Infinity Piece is going to start? I think it's going to start with

Adam sneezing. No, in the background. Will that get picked up? Hard to say. Maybe we'll see. I don't know. I have no idea. It's got to be everyone hanging out, meeting up, right?

So it'd be like Cap and everyone regrouping. I think it's going to be a giant time-jump. No, Captain Marvel. It's got to start with that. Sure. I reckon giant time-jump. It depends. Giant time-jump.

Yeah, like about 10-year time-jump. 10 years? Why not Go crazy with it So now it's just gone crazy Alright I guess There were no rules No rules in the studio

I think it's gonna start With Thanos having a cum Yeah Cause he clicks his other hand Like a five year Like a five year jump Or something like that I'll give you 18 months

We've like They've got this idea Of like alright You know Or even like Cause he can't go too far Because the fact That he's gonna reverse it all anyway It's like taking Tony Stark jump or something like that. I'll give you 18 months. They've got this idea of like, alright, you know. Because he can't go too far because the fact that he's going to reverse it all anyway. It's like taking Tony Stark ages to get back to Earth. Now I'm into it. It'll start with him still

in space. I reckon it might start with Wong. Yeah, possibly. Like start pretty similar to Infinity War. Like as in sort of be like, cause Doctor Strange no longer exists so there needs to be some kind of sorcery to use the time stone to go back in time but this all depends on how captain marvel ends because captain marvel doesn't end with her in the present day infinity

peace will start with captain marvel getting into the present day because she will be one of the main characters yeah absolutely she's super she can do everything right she's very powerful i don't actually know what her power set is i feel feel like I remember reading somewhere the Marvel people being like, she is going to be the most powerful person in the MCU. Unless they're combining Captain Marvel with some of the other entities of space. Fuck, I forget some of them, but yeah. Maybe. I don't know.

I just remember reading that somewhere. They're like, she will be the most powerful person. Scarlet Witch just has wild powers that they just never really... That's something I brought up in the car, but I didn't bring up here. I hate, or I don't hate, but I think it's a shame that Marvel hasn't been more creative with the way people's powers look. Yeah. Like, I felt that fight with Scarlet Witch and Vision was not that visually interesting because Scarlet Witch's powers are red balls. I was like, Doctor Strange is super cool

because he makes those ribbons of runes and scrolls and shit. That's mad. And Iron Spider's Spider-Man. Vision is a guy. Shoots laser from his forehead. Similar to Iron Man, but inserted from his head rather than his chest. I wonder if Iron Man shot a beam from his head rather than his chest Yeah I wonder if Iron Man Should have been from his face It's the only thing left I think

He'd be blind during it as well So he'd have to be fucking certain of where he's aiming They should do more of Spider-Man Jumping through stuff Whenever he's doing that it looks cool When he's flying through debris They've really just done that Perfect

I was surprised Weirdly when Thanos did his click and he went into that world where it was just him and like young Gamora and it's like, that was cool. That was cool.

I actually thought that was going to be like death. Yeah, same. In the comics, you know, he's like, he's trying to court death or whatever

and sometimes death. It's like a little girl. Maybe it was death. I don't know. But like, yeah, I thought that was going to be more like, ah,

he's just, he's doing that again. Yeah. People thought that Hela might pop back because she said she is a something of death in Ragnarok. And people were like, ah, he's doing that again. Yeah, but no. People thought that Hela might pop back because she said she is a something of death in Ragnarok. And people are like, ah, he's going to try and impress her. No. She's dead. He's like, look,

Thanos is a pure mathematician. Absolutely. Everything has to balance. Thanos, former Mayor Thanos. Former Mayor Thanos, future mathematician. I guess yeah in my closing arguments it's a good film

it's one of those episodes that sort of come in like what do I think of it actually it's pretty good I can't really fault it for much other than being

really nitpicky like I'm like I had such a good time I really enjoyed every character I really enjoyed I enjoyed all the villains even like the

the lackeys I really enjoyed not bad yeah they were enjoyed all the villains, even like the lackeys. Yeah, not bad. They were a lot of fun. I loved that little alien guy. Whatever his name was. The mind controller, the telekinesis one? Yeah, the telekinesis one. He was great.

He was a waste. I felt like he was almost wasted. I like when he shushed. I was like, it's cool that shush is like a universal gesture. We all know shush. It doesn't matter where you come from. It's such a big mouth. That's how you can do it.

You've got to put your finger very high up. His palm was covering his mouth, basically, and his finger was somewhere. Does it still work there? No. Your lips have to be at least at the base of your finger. And that's for maximum cockiness, is lips, base, and finger.

You go any lower, you look like an idiot. How about this? So like lips on your nearly elbow. Now it's cool. Now you're a giraffe. You're putting your nose

over your hands over the forehead. What if you go below your chin? No, that's good because that's a subtle shush. That's a church shush. Yeah, that's a

shush. Jesus. You're actually you're not shushing. You're making you are shushing. Rem's a church shush. Yeah, that's a shush. Jesus, listen to that. You're actually, you're not shushing. You're making, well, you are shushing. Reminding them that they're in the house of the Lord. Yeah. Actually, no, like people have done like below the chin shush. That's acceptable.

But no one goes above the head shush. I feel like it needs to be, because if you go below, if you go below the, if you go below the chin, it's always like a shush. Yeah. Like a, but it's like, you're not really shushing them. You're just reminding them that you could shush. It's like the. But above the head, I feel like it needs to be like a shh. Yeah. But it's like you're not really shushing them. You're just reminding them that you could shush. But above the head, I feel like it needs to be like, shush! Like you're conducting.

Like you had both hands up there. I think below the chin, the shush that you do with your mouth, that's the whole shush. The hand is you saying no. It is a bit no. I also, George, the lips on your hand shush the hand is you saying no it is a bit no i also george the the lips on your hand shush is good if it goes to a point oh and you can try all of these out at home listeners it's the best part about the shushes we come up with as well i don't know about the little finger little figure out always makes everything look more cocky. Yeah, it does.

It always does. It's always so casual. You're like, I'm going to close my hand. I don't even. Oh, open palm. So cocky. So cocky. I can't even.

I'm making a cocky face and I can't even help. It's just automatic. Oh, yeah, that's good. So, yeah. Go see Infinity War Go see Infinity War You've all seen this Are we preaching to the fucking choir I'm pretty sure we are

Go see it again Make the second round decision Yeah I don't know I think if I watch it again too soon I won't like it Yeah me too I think it'll probably drag heaps But

Maybe I don't know I probably will watch it again soon. Look, movies happen. Maybe. Maybe like an IMAX or something. Yeah, you could do that. We saw it on a notoriously famously small screen. Tiny. It was like

in the back of a van, black and white. So small. We actually just drove to the drive-ins, but we didn't want to pay for a ticket, so we parked on a side street. We sat on each other's shoulders. We were joking in the car on the way there, like, how great would it be if a premiere was in, like, a drive-in?

Oh, yes. We have a drive-in quite close to where we live. How good would it be if a premiere was at a drive-through? And you had to just keep doing loops buying Maccas every time. What if you don't even get to see it? The person working there has to tell you what's happening. Welcome to the premiere.

Anyway, so the opening scene of the movie is... It's happening, but they're watching it on a smaller TV. So they're like, Thanos is... My dog barking at a helicopter. Is your dog protecting us from a helicopter? It's called Malady. I hate space crimes. Helicopters are from space, Jackson.

Don't give me that look and on that note I've been Joel I've also been Joel I've been Jackson and I've been George and this has been what did we think of Infinity War and we thought hey yeah good yeah Affinity War we should have made that joke

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