Plumbing the Death Star - Which Teen Movie Could You Insert Yourself Into Seamlessly

Episode Date: February 2, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sants Pants Radio, Australia's most family-friendly podcast network. Hey gang, in case you don't know, Australia's on fire. And it's only now just hit the start of our fire season. Already, close to 20 million hectares have been burnt or are currently on fire, 34 people have died and we've lost half a billion animals to the point where koalas are functionally extinct. So, to help raise funds for Wildlife Victoria, we're teaming up with our mates from Planet Broadcasting this February 20th to bring you a live Plumbing the Death Star, followed by
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Starting point is 00:01:04 you can still show your support by going to wildlifevictoria.org.au and giving directly, or you can head to our merch store over at streamlabs.com slash sanspantsradio slash merch and grab a fundraiser tee, where once again, all proceeds are going to Wildlife Victoria. going to wildlife victoria hey everybody and welcome to this week's episode of plumbing the death star where we ask important questions like which teen movie could you insert yourself into seamlessly Well, okay, so... I forgot about the seamlessly. But I'm going to say the Breakfast Club. Not a seam there. Not a seam to be seen. Question, are we as we are today or are we de-aged?
Starting point is 00:02:02 You as you are now, in all your glory. Late 20s, early 30s glory. Can we shave you? Because I reckon if we shaved you, you could pass for a breakfast club team. Shave your head. Keep the beard. I was imagining that I'm just also in the library at the same time as the kids are given detention. It's a school library.
Starting point is 00:02:24 It's a school library on a Saturday. I broke in to try and get some damn education. How about I learn to think of once in my fucking life? You've been held back many years. It's so great to imagine walking past a library and being like, God damn it, how about I learn something for fucking once and smashing a window? So as the teens are like, we're figuring out who we are.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I'm in the background rapidly trying to learn. Several books open in front of me. Who's that kid? Who's that kid? He looks like an adult. He looks like a grown man. Also, this window is smashed. Should we call the cops?
Starting point is 00:03:00 The first book you're reading is How to Cure Wounds from Smashed Window Glass Cuts. I hold up my hand to the teens who just bleed profusely. I just punched it. Why did I do that? I came here to learn, not to die. I don't know what I was going to learn, but it wasn't first aid, but I guess that's good too.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Hello, I'm Jackson. Are you learning about yourselves and others? I'm bleeding. You, jock, you must know first aid. Whatever, brain, hey, help this sucker out. I'm bleeding. You, jock, you must know first aid. Whatever, brain, hey, help this sucker out. I'm bleeding. Oh, I can see. You're all the archetypes.
Starting point is 00:03:32 A piece of shit. Some kind of wiener kid. A piece of shit. Another piece of shit. There's a piece of shit. A whole bunch of pieces of shit interrupting my learning experience. And I guess they go get the teacher. And they're like, a possibly homeless man has broken in.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I've got a home. I just hate it. It's so wet. I'll have to shower running one day. I found out that I could flip my shower head so it aimed at the roof. But then I couldn't figure out how to turn it back. So what I've been doing is just making my roof damp and when the droplets drop
Starting point is 00:04:08 back down, using that to wash but it's made the wood as you can imagine, quite rotten. My ass stinks! There's a lot arising damp. Stop yelling. Moss! I think a moss is growing. I don't know if that's possible
Starting point is 00:04:23 and I saw on a David Attenborough doco that deer eat moss. So you can imagine I'm quite worried. Can I eat it? I don't know, but I'll tell you what, it consumes me. Please, sir. I've opened up my door. I'm trying to get deers in. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Have I seen the last thing you said? As seamless as it gets You're watching a very different movie You're watching almost a horror film You see us as you want Five? Is it five teens? Yeah, five teens You see us as you want to see us
Starting point is 00:04:57 A brain, a jock, a basket case Banda, the popular girl Princess Yeah, so five teens have to deal with their new homeless It's almost like The new homeless best friend The Kingfisher one with Robin Williams That one
Starting point is 00:05:12 Deal with a maniac A magic hobo I'm not magic I'm just bleeding If you want to help, why don't you get a book about deer Why don't you get a book about moss and if I can eat it? And what if you bandage my hand? That would tell me a story.
Starting point is 00:05:32 The brain's going to research deer. The princess or the basket. Now the basket case is probably wrapping up your wounds. It's nice that the teens have come to my rescue. That's good. They're all very scared. Basket case is probably making a comment about how cool blood is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Absolutely. I like blood. And then Bend is coming in and being like, man, society, man. And I'm like, shut up. You don't know nothing about society. My house was built on a swamp. I knew that when I bought it, obviously. I thought if I could drain the swamp using the shower.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Okay. Imagine my disbelief when I find out that my plumbing, in fact, connects to the water reserve and not the wet swampage around me. I went underneath my house and I tried to get the pipe out and connect it, but I, Bender, am no plumber, all right? And so now every time I turn on my bath,
Starting point is 00:06:28 it fills with swamp water and frogs. I can't sleep because of all the croaking. Bender, this is society. This is what it looks like. Please stop yelling. For the love of God. You can imagine why I hate my house. And why I've broken into this library.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I'm here to learn about plumbing. You, find me a book on plumbing. That's something else I was here to do. That's right. Get a goddamn education for once. Some suggest the mould has in fact infected my ears. It's on everything I eat and touch So that makes a lot of sense
Starting point is 00:07:08 I'm sick, I'm very unwell Every time I cough there's spores Am I a carrier? I don't know This library's probably infested as we speak Someone look that up too It's good to imagine the principal opening the door, looking in, closing the door. Next time I'm...
Starting point is 00:07:29 Oh no, no, none of that. Having a conversation with the janitor, but instead of having a conversation about the kids, he's just like, I might have to call the police. What do we do here? I'm not really trained for situations. I'm just going to wait and see how this plays out.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Before I call the police. This is me in there yelling about a truly insane living situation. We believe a man has taken five youths hostage. My bed, wet. My bathroom, wet. My food, wet. My cupboard's full of snakes. I've got to assume that's because it's so nice and cool in there
Starting point is 00:08:06 that they go there to get out of the heat. Although someone told me once that snakes like heat, so I can't explain it. All I know is that it is definitely full of snakes, many of them venomous. And that's the list. Snakes, go on. Yeah, somebody get on snakes.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I've got to fix my house. Do I need to make it hotter or colder? I don't know. Snakes, go on. Yeah, somebody get on snakes. I've got to fix my house. Do I need to make it hotter or colder? Why will the snakes hate more? I put the snakes on the hot plate that I use to cook my beans and it just got angry. That's how I got this bite. My other hand is swollen and infected. It's throbbing.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Do you have any suggestions, teens? This is now less about teens. Maybe they come together to find out a lot about themselves by also helping a crazy homeless man. You see us as you want to see us, but aside from that, what was that about? Who was that man? Why did the principal not call the police yes
Starting point is 00:09:07 rather than five youths coming together to work out the differences five youths come together to help i mean they they can't not interact with me i think oh yeah you are now the at least it's hard to say all i know is that there are police presumably amassing outside the school with intent to come inside and eventually stop this. Will I be satisfied by any information I learn? Not at all. I think that this movie ends with you being shot in the head. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It's kind of like, so it looks like snakes really do like heat, but they are... Well, what? How hot is hot? Because like I said, I put one on the hot plate where I cook my beans, and it bit me in this hand. It feels tingly and cold. They're like maybe 30 degrees.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I've tried to lance it, but I don't think it's full of anything. I don't know what's going on. I just poke holes in it. They go into cold to hibernate. What? Someone look up hibernating. Bedtime for snakes. Sir, this one says a little bit about
Starting point is 00:10:14 bears. Okay, that's a problem I gotta deal with too, I guess. Bear will eat the deer that have come from my shower moths. That makes sense. Good work. Finally Finally some fucking answers God damn I gotta lie down I've lost so much blood
Starting point is 00:10:30 Finally I'm getting an education Absolutely Wake me up when my house is alright Wake me up when my hands better You might die of snake bite I like the idea of you just dying And then don't you? It was on my face.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Just my still, tongue slightly agape face. Tongue agape? I've got a hole in my tongue. Yeah, what of it? I was born like this. The doctor said that I would not be able to eat anything my whole life because it would stuck in in there and infected. And yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:11:10 But I plug it up with a little cork I custom made. I lost the cork. I ate all of it. Presumably I thought it was beans. Okay. The beans I have are hard. Yeah. The hot plates are at a very low heat.
Starting point is 00:11:25 The beans remain rock hard because they're old beans, Bender. This is society. This is what life looks like after you're a teenager. I buy beans and then I consume them six to seven years later. They are my beans. Yeah, they came with the house. They were here already.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Oh, fortuitous circumstance, would think maybe i've had a hot hot plate that would be the case it is a lukewarm place so really it's less about yeah five teens i think it is um a detention i'll never forget that's true they are you know at the end of the breakfast club there's the implication that even though they bonded so closely uh while they were in detention the next day at school, they're going to drift. They're going to separate back to their original cliques. Not after this.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Inevitably, they'll have to see a trauma counselor. Anyway. Together, though. Together. So in many ways, I've ensured Breakfast Club sequels. Yeah, nothing really joins people together like shared trauma. Like shared trauma of a man breaking in yelling at them dying dying of a snake bite
Starting point is 00:12:28 with wounds that he had prior to the movie started it's really coincidence that I died when I did I'd lasted a long time with a snake infected hand I guess they're not getting stoned and doing backflips
Starting point is 00:12:43 they're not doing much of anything. They read quickly and then you die. They read quickly out of fear, but I am never satisfied with the answers. You just keep clicking and being like, more books! I'm not educated enough! I'm not sure if you dying is the end of the first act,
Starting point is 00:13:02 the end of the second act, or the finale. It's the finale. It pans across Jackson's horrible body and mouth agape with his tongue hole. And then it pans up to Bender who does the fist. Don't you forget about me. That's the film, The Breakfast Club. Why is it called that?
Starting point is 00:13:24 Nobody brings that up at any point The principal is sued for negligence I guess he never called the police They go to my house and it has to be burnt down I don't know how this man got so many animals into one domicile
Starting point is 00:13:39 There's deer There's a bear There's several species of snakes Frogs I think the snakes are eating the frogs There's deer, there's a bear, there's several species of snakes. Frogs. Some are new. Frogs. I think the snakes are eating the frogs and the insects. It's great to imagine a deer in my bathroom
Starting point is 00:13:50 and then a bear up against the tiny bathroom window trying to get in. Bender looking in, he was right. Maybe that old man had some wisdom to teach. The frogs are from the swamp. Don't you? The frogs and snakes are are from the swamp. Don't you? Frogs and snakes are definitely from the swamp, but it's uncharacteristic amount of snakes in
Starting point is 00:14:11 these cupboards. That's unusual. They're nowhere else. It's like he put them here. Yeah, put the snakes in the cupboard. Deal with the rat problem. Yeah, Bender. Bender, the rats are getting at the beans. What's a rat's natural enemy? Snake.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Think. Think, Bender. Use that educated brain. Okay, maybe if I'd gone to school, okay, I'd have learned some of this. Instead, I was at the school of hard knocks. Okay?
Starting point is 00:14:44 My school of hard knocks, I knocked hard on windows and broke into libraries. I knocked hard on people's houses, and when they opened the door, I said, tell me something new. And those that did gave me an education. And those didn't. It's why I have such a high police rap sheet
Starting point is 00:15:00 and why you cannot call the cops. I will go to jail, Panda. This is real life. This is what it looks like, okay? I am grown up. You are a wee baby child. This is where you will end up. End of the line, Bender.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Give me that flannelette. Using that to bandage you. Think about this. Point at his chest. Come on, bender. How do you think The Breakfast Club, would it be still a cult classic? I think it would be more of a cult classic. Would age better.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Absolutely. I mean, currently that movie sucks. I think if I was part of it. It'd be a louder film. Louder film. Interesting. And it would be a bit more about like, you know, a commentary on maybe like the class divide.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Is that the reason? No, no, my parents were rich. I requested not to get an education. I just forgot to go to school. Dad wrote it on the fridge, but because I'd never been to school, I was illiterate, and so I didn't go because I didn't know I had to. Is this making sense? I was too busy playing and so I didn't go because I didn't know I had to. Is this making sense? I was too busy playing Game
Starting point is 00:16:08 Boy whilst I shit. Okay. I talk big shits. Alright, don't make a big deal out of it. Everyone shits and I shit big. And I have to have a special toilet that's very comfortable. Yeah, we all do it, even the princess over there. She shits. She shits, you shit, you
Starting point is 00:16:23 shit, you shit. If there's anything that bonds us as people, it's the fact that we shit at our arseholes. In fact, let's do a shit right here. To bond children. It's not coming because the beans give me terrible constipation. Which you'd think
Starting point is 00:16:39 would be the opposite of what would happen, but they're not cooked, so it makes sense. It's just clogging my anus up. Alright, kids, somebody get a book on that. Anuses. A to Z. Start clicking. Come on! And then I die.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I got not long of this word. Maybe there's still the scene where the brain is like, I was going to bring a gun to school, but he's like, I have one here. We could kill him. We could end him right now and be free. What are you talking about? What's that?
Starting point is 00:17:11 I can't hear you because as you can see, and then I lift my ears up, my hair up. I have no ears. I was born like this. The brain's like, that's not how ears work. The doctor said that he could put a set of artificial ears on my head, but he had nowhere to hang them because I don't have any ears. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:17:27 What does that mean? He's still got his ear. Does he not? He doesn't have. How does he not have a hole there? What? What are you saying? What is he?
Starting point is 00:17:36 He can hear us sometimes. Can he read lips? No, I can't read lips. I wasn't even looking. I'm blind, technically, legally, but I can see a bit. I'm legally blind for legal reasons. What? What does he mean?
Starting point is 00:17:54 Snakes! That's the only reason I have my house. I don't know what he's talking about now. Okay, so... That's the only reason I have my house. So what are we giving the IMDb score of Breakfast Club with the addition of me? That's a 7.4 on IMDb, I reckon.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I think that's true. And Rotten Tomatoes? 80% critics. Baffling yet engaging. Critics love it. Audiences, commercial audiences, hate it. But then again, a cult following. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Pushing the IMDb score up. Oh, 100%. They love the slow pan of a snake bitten corpse while Don't You Forget About Me is played. And to be honest, I don't think I could ever forget this movie. What a baffling choice. It started off so normal. So normal. And then baffling choice. It started off so normal. Started off so normal.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And then in a plot twist, I don't know how to use it. I don't really know what the film convention we're referring to here is. But yes, in a thing that happened. John Hughes, he's like, the muses just took me. I wrote this in a fever. A very loud man. John Hughes bursting into his partner's room. I've got it.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I know how to improve the breakfast club. What if a loud, crazy man came in and yelled true nonsense at them, slightly frustrated for some reason, and then died from a snake bite? A snake bite? Yeah, don't worry about it. He already had it. I'm going to watch this down.
Starting point is 00:19:25 My creative juices are going crazy. He lives in a swamp. There's so many behind the scenes and production like docos of like, what happened to this? This is not what the original script looked like. He said he wrote the amendments in a day and a half. Yeah, he said it came to him in a dream.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I had a dream about a farmer being sick up on himself and it just came to me with the inspiration i needed just a little bombs every i'm very sick could be the venom could be the blood loss could be my house could be the beans many possible reasons for the illness i currently have Doctors legally aren't allowed to see me, so I've got to live with it. We don't know. The young-ish man who makes these claims,
Starting point is 00:20:12 we don't know if we're meant to believe all of them or any of those claims. The young man also has never been found and isn't credited in the cast of Crow. He's a true mystery. Some say it was unscripted. Some say that this man thought he was in a real library.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I have wheels within wheels. Molly Ringwald has said that she's never felt as afraid as she has on a movie set. Absolutely. One of the disappointing things to come out of this breakfast club is Molly Ringwald giving up acting forever. If this is what it's like, I'm out. Emilio Estevez also has quit acting
Starting point is 00:20:53 and we've never got Mighty Ducks. That's probably the greatest shame. Champions, as it's called in Australia. That is upsetting. Yeah, first one's called Champions. No, it's... What? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And the second one's called The Mighty Ducks, and then we've got D3, which makes no sense in Australia. What? Crazy. I didn't know that. I think I've only ever seen Mighty Ducks 2, so... That's the one where they're in the... Lake.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Yeah, it's the one where they're in the lake. They represent America. They're in the Olympics in the third one, I'm pretty sure. That's wild. Is Ice Hockey in the Olympics? Quack. Quack. Quack. Flying V! Yeah, Knuckle Park Brothers. I ice hockey in the Olympics? Quack. Quack. Quack.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Flying V. Yeah, knuckle puck brothers. I hope that's the TV you can slip yours. So yeah, in terms of seamless, no. I didn't notice. To me, it just seemed like the Breakfast Club, as I recall it. Well, he kept saying the name of the character I remember, Buster. Buster Molly Ringwald.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Listen up. So, yeah. So you did well. You did well. I think I liked it. So you've done well. I think I will also do equally as well. I'm inserting myself into the teen film Scream.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Okay. That is a teen film. So the threat of me. The threat of you. I am also killing teens at the same time. I'm like, look at this ghost face killer guy, and I'm like, hmm, that looks all right. Teens are annoying.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Annoying to get in like you're planning on murdering teens and he does it like the day before so everyone's gonna be like you copied him that sucks yeah but the big twist of scream is that there are two killers killers so now there's a sneaky third well no unrelated the twist would be that there was one killer because when i first watched scream uh i didn't see the twist coming because I was too busy getting excited about Matthew Broderick. Matthew. Oh, no. I had the name and you both said Broderick.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Lillard? Yeah. I got so excited about the death of Matthew Lillard going to occur on screen in front of me that I didn't even consider for a moment that he could be the killer. So the twist surprised me. But if I was in Scream, he would have annoyed me so much I probably would have headbutted him at some point and put him in hospital. Is that how you're killing teens? As an adult.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Who are you? Shut up. It's good to imagine. So I prevent some of the murders. I do the opposite. Well, by bashing the teen. You're bashing or killing a teen.
Starting point is 00:23:21 So I'm watching scream. Matthew Lillard is on there and I'm like, this is good. This is good. Then out of nowhere you barrel in, headbutt him, beat the shit out of him and barrel off screen. And I'm like, wait, what? Wait, hold on. Does that mean they don't find out who the killer
Starting point is 00:23:38 is or do they only find out one and Matthew Lillard is in hospital? The killing stop. Well, some of the killing stop. Okay, so it's great that you have the opportunity because now we've quantum leaped you into. You're in the movie for some reason. If I'm in the movie, in the movie, his character would still annoy me.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Like, so I don't know what's going on. I just hate this one kid. So who are you in the sleepy town of Screamsville? Yeah, he's Joel Dusha. Yeah, I'm Joel Dusha. Lovable early 20s, early 20s, late 20s. I'm not fooling anyone. What's your job in Screamsville?
Starting point is 00:24:14 Maybe I'm Dewey's best friend. Yeah, okay. He's the cop. All right, so you're not a cop, but you're friends with the cop. Yeah, I'm friends with the cop. Doing ride-alongs. Yeah. You're like, hey, Dewey, let me out here.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Maybe I work at... Beat this kid out here maybe he's a corrupt cop let me out here and you just go out and from the car like him watching you and he's like wait wait what is he doing shut up that's good it's good if you continually prevent him Killing team by bashing him I'm just always there The only scene I know from Scream I've never seen it is when Maybe it's from one of the sequels But like the girl's in the house And he's like I can see you I'm in your house
Starting point is 00:24:57 And she's like oh my god And then you're just hi I'm here to bash Scream What? He's in your house move out of the way that could also be the opening of Scary Movie 3 absolutely that's also a demon
Starting point is 00:25:15 no no not me inserting it the scene you're describing yes absolutely what's your favourite scary movie and then the very start of Scream is Drew Barrymore getting killed. Yes. And she is on the phone and doors open and stuff like that. But he's never like, I'm in your house. Yeah, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:25:31 But I feel like that in scary movie, they do that and he is in the house. Maybe. I can't really remember. I like the idea. Anyway, have we ever had a horror movie where the villain keeps appearing and trying to kill someone? An anonymous man. Oi! It's good to imagine You're so annoying!
Starting point is 00:25:49 Driving around with Dewey and you see Scream about to kill Kirsten Dunst Go talk to Kirsten Dunst, sorry Drew Barrymore And you're like, from the moment, before he does his first murder, you're like, I'm bashing that guy And then the rest of the film is you chasing the scream killer
Starting point is 00:26:06 to every location and beating him up. Yeah, do you remember what he looks like in Scream? Because I'll show you a photo and then you tell me if you don't want to fight him or not. Alright. I will. Oh yeah, I want to fight him. Yeah. It's good to imagine you can just see that energy through the
Starting point is 00:26:21 screamer mask as well. Yeah. It's also funny to be like, oh my God, that ghost is going into that house. I've got to save that person. I think it's a ghost. I've decided I'm a ghost buster. Oh, my God, is that a ghost? I've got to punch this guy. I've got to throw some hands at this ghost.
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Starting point is 00:27:42 god i've been blessed with magic fists that can punch ghosts. It can punch ghosts. Fuck. It rules to imagine you going to a haunted house and just running around fists flailing. If there's any ghosts here, I'll feel them. I'll feel them. Okay, so instead of decking math, I mean, you might.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Well, out of sheer, I guess, luck. You're the ghost puncher. You've seen the ghost face here at the corner. You're the ghost puncher. You've seen the ghost face killer at the corner and you're like oh my god. Can anyone else see this? Can anyone else punch this? This place is being haunted. We're living in a ghost town. And then you become
Starting point is 00:28:15 the ghost puncher. I don't think and I also don't think that the ghost face killer is expecting a punch in the mask. While Scream is happening in the background, there is a side plot where it's like someone muttering their breath being like,
Starting point is 00:28:29 I'm going to punch some ghosts. I can punch ghosts. And so then every other kind of like, you know, in every shot, there's just some guy in the background just throwing hands, flailing around.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Eventually I'll connect. It's just totally in the background of the film, but then right at the end, when there's like the final confrontation between Sidney and the ghost face killer, I just pop coward punch. Back of the head. And then for some reason I've been imagining you
Starting point is 00:28:53 with your eyes shut. Yes. I can act it. Oh my God, I killed this ghost. Wait, wait, hang on. Can ghosts die? A little bit of blood coming out the back of the head. Do ghosts bleed?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Hang on. Wait a second, though. Everybody's just staring at you in horror. Hold on. I'm a hero. I killed a ghost. The review's like, man, I just did not see that ending coming. But if you did look, it's very tiny, but literally in every single shot,
Starting point is 00:29:28 it's well scripted. We can't deny it's set up. It's shadowboxing the whole way through the film. It doesn't really make sense tonally or have anything to do with the plot, but it is set up. It is set up. You do hear a muttering of like, I'm going to punch some ghost. At some point, when we think it's Chewie's mate,
Starting point is 00:29:45 we're not sure if it's... You can see a police car in the background of the first scene and you can kind of hear, you put subtitles on, you can hear it. Hey, is that a ghost? I'm going to punch that ghost. I'm going to punch that ghost. Well, actually, no, in this version, you do. You get out of the car, punch him
Starting point is 00:30:01 to learn that you can punch ghosts because otherwise that's just an assumption you've made, which is really funny. Hey, Dewey, thanks for being up today. I feel powerful. I could punch ghosts. Do you reckon I could punch ghosts, Dewey? I wouldn't know.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I'm going to try. That's the opening credits. And then it cuts the whole, you know, the entire film. Yeah. It's bookended by two conversations with Dewey. One where you're like, can I punch ghosts? And one where you're like, I punched a film. Yeah. It's bookended by two conversations with Dewey. One where you're like, can I punch ghosts? And one where you're like, I punched a ghost.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And then Dewey's like, you've had a lot of trouble. Well, I know. She's a murderer. If you murder a murderer, isn't that good? I suppose. Is that what you're saying to Dewey? It's complicated. No.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I murdered a murderer. Yeah. I win. Did you do it? Okay, so I win. Did you do it? Okay, so you're- Did you do it in self-defense? Well, I punched him in the back of the head from behind. I had my eyes shut.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Yeah, we're getting a lot of witnesses saying that you were just doing it with your eyes closed. And you were flailing and it could have been anyone. It just happened to be a murderer. I don't know if the law has a word for that. Hero. It's not quite murder and it's not quite manslaughter. It's something more complicated.
Starting point is 00:31:12 It's bang in the middle. You did save her life. You had intent. But it wasn't. It wasn't the intent that was required. You thought it was a ghost, but it was a murderer. Credits roll. Lots of post-credits, little pop-up boxes of you still having a discussion.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I think I'm okay. I think I'm going to be all right. I am going to have to arrest you. I am a cop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, but I'll get off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No lawyer in the country will keep this in. You're my best friend.
Starting point is 00:31:47 You wouldn't arrest me. You wouldn't arrest your best friend. You did kill someone. Yeah, but I thought they were a ghost. Well, they were a ghost. No. But they were a ghost. Not only were they a ghost,
Starting point is 00:31:57 they weren't even a friendly ghost. They were a bad ghost. And then I killed them. Yeah, but think about what you're saying. Do you know what else is really, really good about this? So in scream in world, in scream, they make the movie stab based off the events of scream.
Starting point is 00:32:11 So now stab is probably called punch. It'll be stab punch. Stab slash punch. Like face off. Colon punch. It's good. It's good calling it punch because that implies that you punching the
Starting point is 00:32:27 killer was the most exciting part of the film. Also, if you've punched one killer, that means there's another killer loose. That's true. Nobody beat up Matthew Lillard. That's how I learned I could punch ghosts.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Wait, so you knew that was Matthew Lillard, but this second one may be a ghost. It appears somewhere along the way you got very confused. Maybe you punched Matthew Lillard. And I'm like, in your punching, you're just doing your shadowboxing,
Starting point is 00:33:02 you punch yourself in the head. Become convinced you killed a ghost. shadow boxing you punch yourself in the head become convinced you killed a ghost become a ghost puncher yeah reviews are in what seems like west no where's craven did he do it again we don't know he seems like he wanted to make a movie about a guy punching ghosts really but he was too cowardly to put it in the forefront. Three stars. IMDb, the trivia is like, we don't know. Wes Craven even doesn't know why he put this in the film.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Wes Craven was like, this wasn't my cut. All the actors use character names except Joel Dutcher, who goes by his real name in film. And he refers to Matthew Lillard's character as Matthew Lillard until he thinks he's a ghost. Then he just keeps calling him to Matthew Lillard's character as Matthew Lillard until he thinks he's a ghost. Then he just keeps calling him
Starting point is 00:33:48 Ghost Matthew Lillard. But he calls that other guy Dewey, which is his character's name. Is that because he doesn't know the name of the actor? It's really confusing. It seems like it's very funny as well to Wes Craven being like,
Starting point is 00:34:04 I didn't film this. How did this get in the background? Is this just like Warner Brother and the Furious? What's your name again, Dewey? Something Arquette? I'm going to call you Dewey Arquette. Release the Craven cut that has none of this in it.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I think the Joel Duger character was added in post-production for some reason. I'm CGI. It's just a man in a green morph suit flailing away. What did they intend him to be dressed as or looking like? Yeah, a baffling film. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Probably gets- Great twist. Yeah. Wow. It probably gets a lot of people gathering to watch it because it's so bad. I guess another comment. Oh.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Just baffling. What's the IMDB score? IMDB score, probably talking about- Like a two point something. Oh, what? I would think maybe 4.5. What's the Rotten Tomatoes percent? Rotten Tomatoes, loved by fans, hated by critics.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah. The reverse of your- The reverse of Angry Breakfast Club. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. So I need a percentage. You need a percentage.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I reckon like critics, 20%. Yeah. Critics, 20%. But audience, 80%. They love it. They love it. They're like, this is a breath of fresh air in the already boring teen thriller genre. Scream, it's a comedy horror.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Most people are just like, oh, it's a horror. But this feels like it really lent into that comedy So it's become a lot more slapstick And people would understand the genre A bit easier I think you'll begin a new genre of slapstick horror I think they'll call it You know like a ruined orgasm
Starting point is 00:35:37 They'll call it ruined horror Where it seems like it's building up to something And then the ghost or the murderer gets punched Exactly It's a new Friday the 13th remake Where Jason just to something and then the ghost or the murderer gets punched. Exactly. There's a new Friday the 13th remake where Jason just gets whacked in the back of the head by a bit of wood. Every time he's about to kill someone, someone just hits him with a bit of wood.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Absolutely. We wanted the audience to experience you've ruined my cum. Yeah, absolutely. Dream puncher. That's the Nightmare on Elm Street version They get you in a lot of ways Jaws 8 ends with Jaws getting just caught in a net
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yeah, absolutely That's when the genre was dying They say, netted the shark What's happening to Jaws and then it just cuts to a fishing vessel where they lift it out and one of the fishermen's like, ah, it's still alive! On the schnoz. And people were like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:28 I kind of got it after Scrooge. Yeah, it was derivative. I feel like I did a good job. I think you did a good job, just as good a job as I. Yeah, after experiencing two incredible flawless... Like, you're so seamless. I think maybe I've
Starting point is 00:36:44 might have done this a bit too seamless. I see. We get confused. I need a bit of seam. The Hunger Games. Okay. Just simply being one of the wealthy capital people. Great choice. Just watching the teen deaths and being like
Starting point is 00:37:00 yes, I will bet on that one. I like how seamless this is because I may not notice. Yeah. You could be anyone. You could be like, hey, boys, I've got a sneaky announcement. I'm actually in Hunger Games. And I'd be like, could be true.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I could be telling you right now a thing that has happened. Like I was in Hunger Games. Yeah, you could. Could be true. Are you going to watch it to find out? No, you're not. You're not. No.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Unless you're an adult in The Hunger Games, then it's less seamless. We can see a bit of same. Katniss, Peter, Zammett. I was even imagining, not as a tribute, like you were fixing a bit and they went off. You're like, honey, why put this panel down? Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:37:45 No, I'm still in here. The kids are going to tear me apart. Just to be like a fully grown man in the Hunger Games. That's something really funny about it. With like a screwdriver. Get back, children. No, no. They're coming with knives.
Starting point is 00:38:02 It's great to imagine kids coming at you and you've just got a big bit of wood that you're flailing around trying to hit them with. They use bow and arrows, so you're just going to cop an arrow to the skull. Just peppered with arrows, trying to find the cameras. Let me out! I'm hurting!
Starting point is 00:38:20 A maintenance man trapped in the Hunger Games. My name is Joel Zappert. I am a maintenance worker. I was not a tribute. As you can see, I'm a worker. I've got a tool belt. I'm too old. A tool belt.
Starting point is 00:38:35 People keep sending you gifts. No. Please don't do this. Get me out. I would like to go. A parachute falls down with a bit of box. Open up. Oh, Glock.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Okay. I guess he to go. A parachute falls down with a bit of box open up. Oh, Glock. Okay. I guess he's killing kids. Okay. I guess you've become sort of a villain for the Hunger Games. Katniss is like, how am I going to kill the man with the gun? I didn't want to be here, but now that I've got a gun, it's all right. I guess I've got to kill some children. Can I win?
Starting point is 00:39:01 And then a big voice over the loudspeaker is like, technically not. Aww. If you win, you've ruined the Hunger Games. That's your emotional core. You've got to ruin the games. The struggle of your character. Hey, you know who else ruins the Hunger Games? Who's that?
Starting point is 00:39:13 Katniss. That's true. She shoots the roof. Maybe you do that before her, or you shoot her as she's about to shoot the roof. You just start shooting the sides of the Hunger Games. Get me out! I guess, to be honest, as someone who was like a technician, you'd know how to shut bits off and turn off trees or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Just kind of like knock it on the tree to see which ones are hollow. You just want a door? No. I'm going to turn off the trees in this whole area. Kids are climbing up the trees. Because I know the kids climb up the trees and make a bed. Trees, all the kids just fall to their death. All right, so now it's a bit of a Mr Magoo situation
Starting point is 00:39:46 where I am a little bit of a short-sighted. A murder Magoo situation. A bit of vision problems, but a technician nevertheless who's trying to get out, accidentally setting off traps. And killing children. And slowly killing kids. As soon as a kid falls from a great height, cracks their skull on a rock,
Starting point is 00:40:06 I turn to the camera, because the cat with the hung game's like, oh no, did I do that? That becomes your catchphrase. Like Urkel. But then they're like, that's just Urkel's catchphrase. That's the only piece of old world media that survived. And then my presents dry up.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I like to imagine, it's so funny to imagine I didn't do it. Does that float? Does that float? It's good to imagine you're opening up a panel and flicking something on and off that you don't know what it is and it's turning off the air for like a third of the time. Flick, flick, flick, flick. Kids losing their air
Starting point is 00:40:38 in another section. So inadvertently causing a lot of kid death. Uh-huh, uh-huh. For sure. From a different side of the park. How, what, the movie is about you now, or are you just a challenge for Katniss and the gang to overcome? Do the kids kill Zammert, or does Zammert kill the kids? I think what's going to happen, it's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:40:59 kids are dying and they don't know why, because the tree just disappeared. Yeah, that's true. And then it is revealed towards the end of the second act of just a bumbling fuckwit being like, help, kids, I'm trapped. Kids, don't kill me. I'm trapped. I've got a palm pilot and a screwdriver.
Starting point is 00:41:16 You're also wearing maintenance overalls with a bomb flap open. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kids, I am very lost. I'm very lost. I'm a little sick. I kept trying to eat things. I didn't know what was edible or not. I ate a berry and then turned off the berry.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I've consumed a good chunk of mud. Kids, help. Help me, children. I guess that might help. Katniss might like, you know, oh, if you help me out of the Hunger Games. Whatever you want, kid. I am so fucking scared right now.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Do you know that, like, look, we're gonna get bears, like bear humans, they're gonna attack you. It is fucked. It's messed up. Wait, look, I'll show you. I'm turning on the bear children. Look, here's the bear children. Now I can turn them off. It's real simple. It's very easy. Some reason.
Starting point is 00:42:02 In the background. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh's real simple. Very easy. Some reason. In the background. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no. I know the one. I don't know how. Shit. Killed by a bear child.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Fuck. What are they? Fuck. Fuck. Dammit. Dammit. Dammit. It's funny to imagine you just turning off all, everything.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Like, press to get like a maintenance switch that turns everything off and you can just see in the distance all the kids. Yeah. Children, press to get, like, a maintenance switch that turns everything off, and you can just see in the distance all the kids. Children, I'm sorry! This is much better. I'm getting, like, executed by the Capitol. Absolutely. For ruining the latest Hunger Games. Oh, you trapped me in here!
Starting point is 00:42:40 The kids all see you because you've turned everything off. It's just a flat plane. They turn, and you're like, kids, kids. And you realize they're charging at you. So you just turn the trees back on real aggressively. Boom, boom, boom. Hell! Dead by trees.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Oh, that was close. Tree grew through child. I'm fucking scared, Katniss. Then it becomes. Katniss, I'm shitting myself here. Kids hunting me. Well, I have sort of control of the environment. Yeah, it'd be all right.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Horror film. Yeah. It's kind of like, you know. Cabin in the woods? Yeah, but like, you know, kids hunting like a wizard, basically. Children, I am a wizard. I can turn the trees on and off. I can make children bears appear.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Those big hornets or whatever they're called. I can turn off the air, off the water. Oh, press this as a swooping mockingjay or whatever. They're dangerous. I don't know. Look, I didn't pay attention. I would love to just get out of here, kids. Quickly manifest a steak sandwich.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Oh, thank Christ. Wow! What? What? Dead by steak sandwich. What? I don't know what. Okay, that one's not on me.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Cuts to Stanley Tucci watching. I didn't. Okay, that's... Meat's going to come from somewhere. Is that how this works? Why just kill Stanley Tucci? He's going to come from somewhere, i.e. me. Stanley Tucci's face.
Starting point is 00:44:18 What? I don't... He's an actor. I am really lost. Hunger Games has the same laws as Full Metal Alchemist. But Stanley Tucci is where you get all your material from. Every time you do alchemy, it comes from Stanley Tucci. That's good.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It's good because a steak isn't all of him. It's just a bit of his belly going. I'm just going to press the homunculus button. Make a Stanley Tucci homunculus. See, that fixes it. Oh, no. I've made an envy. I think it's good because it would be like, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:57 oh, has he wrecked the Hunger Games? And this thing's got stranger and stranger. They'd be like, he's improved the Hunger Games. And then Stanley Tucci dies. No, he's definitely wrecked it. We've Stanley Tucci dies and they're like, no, he wrecked it. We gotta get him out of there and bad him. Sorry for the interruption, everybody in the capital, but
Starting point is 00:45:13 John Xamarin has ruined the Hunger Games. He will be executed. See you next year. What? Damn it! It's just their negligence. Well, look, it's an improvement on the Hunger Games, let's be honest. I feel to flee, though, I might just become one with The Hunger Games and maybe burrow underground somehow.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I'm sort of imagining, like, Katniss coming to you and you lie down in the mud and you're like, bury me, Katniss. He's like, leave me a little hole for my mouth. Mud, raise up. They'll never catch me here they'll never Mr. Salmon Joel Salmon killed by mud
Starting point is 00:45:51 suicide by mud why didn't you get up what happened I'm hiding they'll never catch me come back for the sequels though didn't you die in the mud Don't ever catch me. Come back for the sequels, though. Oh, didn't you die in the mud?
Starting point is 00:46:10 No, that was a myth. I pressed the Ganon button. Yeah, see, now I pretty much control all the Hunger Games. It's all right. No one ever dies, not really. It's all a simulation, I think. I don't know. I think you'll come back for the third one because the fans will have grabbed onto you as a character they love.
Starting point is 00:46:27 He wasn't in the book. It seems like a weird addition, but, you know, he improved it in a way. Maintenance man. Never got a real name. Just maintenance man. Maintenance man. Killed by mud. Oh, when are you want to give my name?
Starting point is 00:46:47 I'm also not dead. I didn't know. Also like the profile picture to be, rather than his face, his uniform bomb flap open. Pressed up against the glass. How'd they get that? How'd they get that photo? That was a special photo for me and my wife.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Photo provided by maintenance man's wife. Miss Smith. Oh, honey. The ultimate portrayal. Apart from this mod, that's the ultimate portrayal. Wife is second. I'll tell you what, he dies heaps in that scene. He's got a lot of things to say between deaths.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I'll be honest. Strange choice. What's the IMDb score? Oh, that's an 8.6. Absolutely. Critically acclaimed. And loved by fans. Too weird for Oscarsars but people are still
Starting point is 00:47:48 talking about it it's on all the lists the subsequent Hunger Games because they didn't include you panned by critics people hated them biggest Oscar snub maintenance man what happened
Starting point is 00:48:02 did win a team choice award you got slimed at the Nickelodeon Yes And you're like this is like when I died in mud And you got a weak applause As I get slimed And everyone's like He's in the line
Starting point is 00:48:19 This is the ultimate betrayal I'm not even dead yet. On the front cover of Bum Flaps Weekly. Very few of them appear in film, so it was quite a notable month. A whole month's worth of weekly issues dedicated to that scene. Bum Flap Weekly has never seen so much success and popularity as a periodical than it did in that month. And I reckon Rotten Tomatoes is giving you a 96%.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Absolutely. Very fresh. Yeah, the freshest. Oh, my God. Basically plucked from the vine. Yes. Absolutely. Farmers pick that tomato and they give it a kiss
Starting point is 00:48:57 because of how fresh it is. Oh, wow. So fresh you could put it back on the vine and it would re-knit and stay there. And on that note, I've been Maintenance Man. I've been Joel Doucher, Ghost Puncher. And I've been a crazy man in a library.
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Starting point is 00:49:43 and we'll see you again next time Goodnight for now. But not forever. Kisses.

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