Plumbing the Death Star - Which Would Be the Worst Toy to Join the Toy Story Universe?

Episode Date: February 8, 2026

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J.D. Oh, yeah, because you were just talking about. beautiful listeners. And I just wanted to give this quick shout out to all of our beautiful listeners and also our ugly ones. This one's for both. Yeah. This one's for both the ugly and the beautiful. But if you're playing, stop listening. You're like, oh, I'm average.

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Next week we'll do an episode just for five. The weekly planet's for five. The weekly planet's for five. Not saying that they only have fives. It's just like... I think you're right. I think statistically, if you're a five, you're more likely listening to Plumming to the weekly planet. If you're a one, if you're a real dog, you're listening to plumbing.

And if you're God's gift to mankind, you're listening to plumbing. That's just how it is, dude. Yeah. Exactly. Real... The beautiful ones. Yeah, exactly. Whatever it is.

It's some kind of math. Dugan's probably getting heaps of fives too. Yeah, exactly. Probably a lot of threes. Plumby the Death Star ones and tens. Yes. Which average is that to, five. Exactly.

You see. Who can't listen. People come into a Plumee the Death Star, you know, like a live show and you go, did the sewer and a modeling agency just opened up? Did both leak? Exactly. And everyone's going to be like, ah. Oh.

It's scary both times. Because they're so beautiful or so ugly. Well, yeah. Exactly, dude. Just like our the hosts. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we're beautiful on the outside, but have horrible souls. Most people say beauty's only skin deep.

And for us, that is so true. Because after you pass the skin, horrible. No, dude. Black tar. We don't bleed. We ooze. Smoking is good for us because adding black tar to our lungs is actually an improvement. It's what we need.

That's what our food pyramid looks like. It just one triangle. Mysterious black goo. Cigarettes and raw sewage. Should you really be eating these? Yeah, it's good for me. Specifically, doctor? Yes.

Yeah, watch when I touch grass and it just goes black. See, I'm poison. I'm poison to the earth. Yeah. Now, worse for the Toy Story universe. Oh, like, worse for as a toy to be in this toy store. What would be considered pretty bad? Okay.

Because, again, what are the parameters? Because I have a potential answer. Okay. Which I think is maybe, I just want to put forward a marble. Like, you know, marbles? That's pretty bad. I'm familiar with little marbles. A little round marble.

I don't know. I don't know how if you do play with marbles or not. Well, I don't personally play with marbles. Or did you used to? Was I ever a marble kid? I was jealous of it. kids with marbles. I had marbles.

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Do you get like hand me down marbles? Yeah, for my dad. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Those are cool marbles. I don't know where they went, man. Yeah.

God, they'd be fun to play with. Marbles making awesome noise when they hit. Anyway, look, if you're at this point, you really want to participate in the conversation, want to head to our Instagram plumbing pod. Yeah. Just like, let us, let us know. You still got your marbles? Yeah.

You got your marbles? You got your dad's marbles? You got a photo of your dad's, take a photo of your dad's marbles. Tag us. Yeah. I want to see what's going on. I would love a photo of someone holding marbles and then holding their phone that's playing plumbing the next. Yeah.

Be like, yeah. My marbles. This is my marble collection. This is how I listen every week. And I'm a two. Yeah. I'm a real hang. And here's my marbles.

Hey, I'm an eight. And here's my marbles. Wow. Even their marbles are beautiful. Exactly. That's crazy. Damn. They really polish them up.

Yeah. So I'm thinking of marble will be pretty bad. Yeah. Because one, it's, it's, well, they've got no mouth and they cannot scream. Unless they can psychically scream. Yeah, that's true. This is screaming in the inside, I guess. I don't really remember in the Toy Story universe what happens with, I guess, toys without mouths.

Because it did seem that they weren't able to speak. Well, Miss Potato Head can't talk if his mouth is in his ass. And there's that penguin in possibly the second one whose voice box is going because he's so old squeaker. Yeah. And he would be able to talk at a certain point. With certain marbles, they have like different. like patterns in shape. The famous shit fucked up one?

Yeah. That's gonna be out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, first of up, you can't speak. Another thing as well, like, I think toys love to be played with. That's what they really want to. True. Now, with marbles, you cannot give a marble to a certain age of a child.

That's true. It's a choking hazard. Whoa. And even when you can play with them, when it's not a choking hazard per se, it's still a choking hazard. So you could be responsible for killing your child. You could be in a live marble in a dead boy. So I think that's pretty bad for a toy. To have that, to be there silently, like, I want to be played with,

don't put me in your mouth. And you can't tell the kid, because you can't drop the masquerade when the kid's picking you up and being like, oh, you're just going to be like, Woody, Woody fucking help me here. And Woody's just watching me like, ah. Oh, no. That's pretty bad. I have no, like, my own, I don't really, I can't locomote on my own.

No. You might be able to roll. because the speaking of Like kind of shift on its hips So you might be able to roll Plus with a marble So the army men have a kind of community Yeah

Came from the same bag, the same kind of toy You might have that with the other marbles That's true You might have some marble solidarity That's true I guess you have talk to one another But I do feel that there is in marbles There's a hierarchy

Yeah Because you know the bigger marble Oh it's the best marble That's the best marble And also that's design They're gonna hit me Yeah I'm going to be afraid of that big marvel.

Yeah, but toy, but that's... That you get played by that street. So maybe I love to be hit. Yeah. So I love to be hit. I can't speak and I'm afraid I'm going to kill my boy. Yeah. It's a funny thing, you know, like, Woody when he's played with,

it goes into this, like, fantasy sequence. I've just realized, like, the life of that marble is very similar to being a dad. Yeah, that's true. Do you get hit? Yeah. You can't speak. You can't really say... You can't say anything to your kid.

You can't raise your voice. And I am worried I'm going to kill my dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, that's crazy. The marble is the dad of toys. But when, so when Woody or Buzz, they have, they get played with, they go into like this fantasy sequence where they can, it's like it's real for them. With a marble, what does that look like? I guess, I mean, you could, any, any time where a marble, like a, a film,

where there's a boulder going down a hill or something like that, you could pretend that's you. It's funny that you're, like, getting played with is being rocks. Yeah. So let's say that something. I'm rock. A marble. I think, because a real fear for toys is that they'll get abandoned.

Unfortunately, no disrespect to marbles. Can I just quickly remember what I just said? Where are? My dad didn't, you know, gave me his... Where are them gone? Yeah, where are those marbles? And I think, because you're like, say you leave the marbles outside,

of every toy, they're the ones most likely to get, like, buried and just kind of like, you're kind of going to get buried alive as a marble. I think that's very... And, like, if you're the ones, You have, say, I don't know, like say a big, like, or like Optimus Prime toy or whatever and you either get like a little bit old for that or like, you know, it's like, oh, I have these on my shelf and it's there just to look at it's pretty. Or it's like, oh, you know what, I've done my time playing with this.

I'm going to donate it. I just don't think you're donating marbles. No. How many people are playing with marbles in the year of our Lord 2020? Well, we're going to find out when you head to At Plumbing Potter. Everyone that's listening has been like, hey. There is, I mean, there is like a lot of, I guess, as ASMR type videos on YouTube

where people are playing with marbles. Should we get marbles? I think so. Should we get and play marbles as a family? I remember having a big wooden, like, tower thing. Yeah. It's just had like the whole board into it. And you put the marble down and it rolled.

Yeah, that shit's cool. And that was wonderful and fun, right? And I loved doing it as a kid. But if you go on YouTube and you watch a bunch of these ASMari type, like, Marbles, they are making these interesting, like, strut forms. Well, they're not, like, you know, fondling the balls. That's a different. That's a labyrinth type.

Actually, I can so easily imagine you was, like, an 11-year-old playing with marbles, and then getting bored and putting them all in the sack and then trying to put the sack in your mouth. Being like, why is he sucking on the sack of marbles? What's wrong with my boy? That exact sequence of events didn't happen, but like in spirit, I know, would you mean? So what I mean by, like, I guess, ASMR? Because it would be like the mouth feel of having a mouth. Oh, too, everybody wants to suck on a bunch of marbles.

Fine. This is the problem. And then you're going to get, unfortunately. Then you'd be like, oh, put them in the sack because then they're not going to break and go in my throat, but I still get to experience a mouthful of water. Well, the ideal way to eat marbles. If to my mind would be put him in a plastic bag. No.

And then tie it off the top. And then don't get into your mouth. Don't. Well, that's how a bag of marbles comes. Don't tea bag of marbles. Like in a plastic bag? Well, because... That's even a...

That's another choking hazard. No, because in a typical marble situation, they're in like a leather sack. No, marble is usually coming in like a mesh bag. Well, a mesh bag is, well, the chance of them falling out or whatever is too high. In a plastic bag, you still get the marble mouth feel. You get the marble mouth feel.

No, you get a plastic mouth feel. Yeah, but you get the marble... shape within the plastic. That's good. How are you eating marbles then? I'm just so happy I was right. Hey, great news. Mr.toys.com.com.

Not sponsored. Yeah. Kilo a bag of marbles. A kilo bag of marbles, a solid color and design. Yeah. 999. And you also, you're cheap. What if we buy a kilo of marbles?

What if we buy a kilo of marbles? Probably not that many marbles. I don't know about that. It's probably like 50 marbles. 50 marbles. No. And how much fun, though? going through the marbles, looking at the different kinds.

A kilo of marbles. That's like a thousand grams. Yeah. How much does a single marble way? Yeah, like 50 grams for a marble? 50 grams for a marble. That's a heavy marble. 50 grams.

Well, I'm holding a can of soft drink. Yeah. And that's going to weigh about 400 grams. Yeah. It's 300. So 50 grams for a marble? So if an empty can had six marbles, would it weigh the same as probably not yet? No.

Maybe 20 grams for marbles. That sounds... 20 grams for a mobble. I think 15 to 10. Look, I will say this. Under 10. Sweet dear listeners, we do have a P.O. How much?

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over in front of me, just a big pile of marbles. Exactly. And marbles, I would say, not at all, some sort of like tripping hazard if we were just strown all over the studio floor.

It's one of the easiest things to picture, the three of us, three stooges style. Whoa! On a bunch of marbles. Okay, the standard glass toy. Toy marble typically weighs between.

I feel like a gram. And want to take a guess? Let's say five grams. Five to ten. Two to five. Yeah, so a kilo, that's a lot of marbles. It's a lot of marbles.

Yeah, yeah. We would never need another marble. We would need more marbles. If we had a kilo of marbles. It's crazy they do kilo of marbles from Mr. Toys.com, but are you not sponsored. Ten bucks. Ten bucks.

But the shipping's 12 because a kilo. Yeah, that's true. Man, they're just giving away those Yeah, exactly. So you're not even really special, right? Yeah, for a marble. And also the ASMR video you're talking about. They're not just like someone just, you know, fondling them playing with them.

They're usually setting up like some sort of, I guess, a marble course. Oh. Or like a marble, like you see, yeah, like the tower, but a bit more in depth. Kind of almost like a Rube Goldberg machine, but not as fancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then there are ones that are like a Rube Goldberg machine. Yeah, we are a bit more fancy. And I don't know.

I much prefer, like, if you, again, Marble racing. Yeah, marble racing where they have a different color marble And then you can just, aprop of nothing, just choose a particular color And they're all in Yeah, I'm betting on muddren. Yeah, you can bet on marble. That's good.

That's much more fun to do. Yeah, marble batting. Personally, but again... What if we have a Rune Goldberg machine that, with all the marbles, we're going to get sent to our PO box? Yeah. It's in the show notes. Yeah. We open the studio door and then the marble, like, Rune Goldberg machines up, and then it just...

Oh, it's... Oh, my God. That would be great, dude. It arms the tracks. I was thinking of, like, in terms of, like, being the toy of a marble in Toy Story, how either jealous, I must have felt, being in, or you'd say, the giant marble. Yeah. But then what happens when I see a bowling ball?

Oh, dude. How often you're going to a bowling ball is, well, a bowling ball is sometimes used in Rube Goldberg. That's a good point. That's a good point. And, like, if I see, again, it would be like, break your heart seeing a bowling ball. A kitten seeing a lion. Yeah. I can't see a lion.

You know, I'm like, God? Yeah, I can never achieve that. I will remain this size forever. Andy has marbles. He does? What do they do? But they're in the background and they never interacted with. So there's a chance that...

They're screaming. They're screaming. They're in hell. I'm going to live in hell. There is a chance that in the toy story rules, marbles don't count as toys. In the same way that, like, a video game is not as a toy. I think it depends.

Also, I think... Well, that's because they listen to plumbing the death stuff 15 years ago. That's right, 15 years ago. I stole Joel Zammett's idea. Well, again, it comes down to, like, you know, we're watching the ones that Andy's playing with. Yeah. And he just is not playing with marbles.

And then it's kind of like, not only is he not playing with marbles. Like, the film in and of itself is, they're just so not even notable. Yeah. They're just in the background. Well, Magic 8-ball is also not a toy, remember. Okay.

Because they, but I think with... Not Andy. Woody. Yeah. uses it a bunch. But I think the way it works is it's about how much personality the kid gives the toy. Because a fork, obviously, you put eyes on it.

And he's like, this is Mr. Forky. He's a guy all of a sudden. If I got the marble and I was like, this is my favorite marble, Mr. Marble. Great name. I can tell how much you loved it. I would have named my marble Jonathan. Jonathan the Marble. And I would have put it in my mouth.

I joked on it. Yeah. I was for some reason not imagining you as a child. I was imagining you as an adult at like a, like a, Like a grand scale marble, like, you know how they sometimes do like... Oh, imagine having so many marbles in your mouth that your cheeks go out a little bit? Oh, dude. You know, it's just, it's a crazy feeling, but I know you're chasing that high.

What I want, and this is fucked up, because I think this is a sensation a lot of people don't want. The sound, all the marbles in my mouth and the sound of them rubbing against each other. I imagine spitting them out one by one. It's like cracking your teeth. Oh, yeah, dude. Because you know when you have marbles in your mouth, I know you want to chew. Yeah! You want to see how if you could chill.

Because you kind of think you might be able to. I'm honestly... You're breaking your tea. With everything that you want to put in your mouth and the sensations you're chasing, I'm honestly shocked that you eat as badly as you do and not worse. Yeah, that is true. That is true. Would it say like a pool or a billiard ball, be better or worse than a marble?

I'd be scared if I put a billi ball in my mouth that wouldn't come back out. Well, isn't that like it's like the light bulb? Yeah, that's true. That is true. That I put the billi ball in my mouth and be like, oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, you know, I said I was going to go. Go play billions.

I got distracted. Chest pieces probably feel really good to put in your mouth too while we're talking about it. Yeah, I can see that. But we're on the subject. Different shapes. Some of them are like, you know, whatever they're made out of.

If they're made of marble. Yeah. Oh, that's really good. Yeah. Bit of like, a bit of edges. You want to like move your tongue over? No, I'm with you. Okay.

Yeah, I'm more inclined to put a chest piece in my mouth and a marble. I'm way more like to put a marble in my mouth than a chest piece. Yeah. Yeah. I know what smooth feels like. A horse, yeah. But a horse, I'm actually going to a tongue exploring the contours of the chest face. Yeah.

That sounds good. I think that is you want to put in your mouth, but you shouldn't. I don't think it actually would feel as good as it looks is like the same- A whole egg? No, yeah. I've put a whole leg in my mouth before. Was it good? It was alright, yeah.

But I think the thing is the shell has like a would have a taste. Yeah. It's not just like... I have a weird textures. I think what was scary about the egg in my mouth is that it was like, you it was like one wrong move. Well, it cracks or I eat a whole leg like a snake, a snake. That's really scary.

Yeah. No, I think the little like sand they put in fish tanks looks like a really good to be. No, don't put sand in your mouth. No, no, not sand, like gravel. Yeah, yeah, because it looks like nerds. It looks like the candy nerds. Wait, yeah, just, why don't you get one of those big boxes of nerds? Yeah.

And then, because like obviously a little box of nerds, you empty the whole box into your mouth. It doesn't fill your mouth. Big box of nerds, like there's cereal box. Oh, yeah. Put them in a bowl and go face first. Get like a clear bowl. Put it in there. Fill it up with water.

And you can pretend that's a fish tank and you can eat the gravel. Yes, that's awesome. Like I'm eating a fish as ground. Yeah. We can pretend, you know? Yeah. I just like the idea of like, because, yeah, you get one of those big nerds packets. You can't fit all of that in your mouth, which means you can go to max capacity to see how that feels.

And it's also edible. So, like... Yeah. I will choke. Yeah, you'll give some choke. I'm gonna choke on nerds and sue the Wonka Corporation into the earth. Just keep addressing all your letters to Willie. Dear Willie.

You made of evil candy. Why on the back of the packaging did it say that the, like, I should not put the whole packet in my mouth? That's all I wanted to do. That's all everyone ever wants to do. Yeah, exactly. Every time. Come on, Willie. You've killed me.

So yes, I think I'm... would be... That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. Awful existence. I was thinking, and this maybe stretches the definition of a toy, but one of the we fit balancing boards

would be pretty bad. Especially in the sense of... And I know you had already picked this and you're excited to say, but you've got to remember. And I mentioned this a couple of minutes ago. Video games are not alive in the... Well, I'm not a video game. I'm an accessory.

What about a controller? The controller isn't alive. Yeah, we see a Supernandez. condo controller. So basically, hey, it wouldn't be great because you just picked an anatomid object. I'm non-sentient. But in the same kind of vein as a marble, like maybe it's just one of those things. If it's just one of those things. Well, not even just that, like they are playing with it. It's just you have no mouth. Exactly. I'm getting imbued with some sense of sentience. It's just small and low-key.

And I'm very likely to be abandoned. I was thinking that too. I'm very likely to end up on Facebook Marketplace or something and then, you know, in an attic somewhere gathering dust. It's like to get stood on all the time. Yeah. But that's good for you because you like to be played with. I guess that is me getting played with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do I, I guess if a video game has no connection. Well, having said that, in the new Toy Story movie, the bad guy is like a leapfrog, you know, like children's computer. So I think the lines are more blurry than we're making it out to be. I'm thinking like, yeah, what we would consider is a toy and isn't a toy. is yes, it is blurry, I think partly because if there's things without a mouth, we don't know. We just assume that they're not. And again, the bounce board, a controller, they don't have legs.

So they don't move, they don't like twitch, they can't. And so it's like, well, you know, other toys, they don't even recognize them. They're basically a second-class citizen in the toy story hierarchy because they have no, like, they have no voice. They can't make any, like, local mode. They can't go anywhere. So I think, like, it's even probably worse than the marble. With the marble, you could at least locomote. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And maybe, I think, you could will yourself to roll. Also, so say I'm a Wii fit balance board. Yeah. It's unlikely that you get that for a child, unless you hate that child, you know. Or even like, what about a Wii moat? Yeah, Wii mode's pretty bad. Any sort of like, anything for, like, console, because there's a, there's a lifespan. Yeah.

Oh, absolutely. Really the Wii you come in, I go, that's it, I'm fucked. And then you see the Wii U get set up and then you meet the Wii U game pad and then they get packed up and you, you, you're, you're, You outlive them. Yeah, exactly. I go, that's right, you piece of shit. I've still got Skywood sword.

Yeah. And then the switch comes out, like, no. No. Switch shoes. Do you want to swing me around for old time's sake, Andy? I'm talking. I'm getting. It's coming out of the little tinny speaker on the remote.

Please. Please. Please with me. What the fuck? Swing me around. Don't swing it around. I'm going to hit this with a hammer. No.

Please don't hit me with a hammer, Randy. Yeah. But also I was thinking... I was thinking that with a hammer. Like, you can get, like, toy hammers or, like, anything, like, heavy. Because my beautiful boy, he's in the lovely stages of, like, grabbing, say, the wooden block. And, yes, hitting other toys or, say, me or his mother. And so I guess, if you know, if you're a heavy toy to be responsible for smashing other toys,

Yeah. Like either you're going to be like, I'm sorry. I really didn't want to do that. Or, oh, I'm sorry, but I am being playing with. This does feel good. It is good to destroy you. You know, okay, so as a toy, it feels good to be played with. Yeah.

Right? That's canon. We can accept that. If you are a fucked up child and the way you play with your toys is by hitting them with a real world hammer. Well, I mean, we see that. Sid. Yeah. Or me when I was a child.

Yeah, where you got action, man. Yeah, I would throw. bits of metal rebar at my action man or throw him in the air and watch him explode when he had the ground, put him on a pile of ants. Yeah, how old were you when you gotted that action figure to see what the goo was? Were you an adult then?

Oh, okay. Yeah. But still... And then you permanently stained your friend's car. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. But, does that feel good to Woody? Getting hit with a hammer in the face again and again and again. It'd be like, this is great. Because he's getting played with. This is fantastic. And he doesn't have no of endings. No, really.

I guess it wouldn't hurt it. Well, no, but like, we see... Well, the toys that Sid, like... Yeah, they don't seem like... They're not screaming, but not have mouths. Yeah, they get taken apart and put on things, and they seem to live like a horrible existence. Yeah. They seem to know that they are fucked up,

and they are ostracized. Oh, isn't the whole thing with toy stories, like, it's like, you gotta play with your toys, but like with love, so I don't think... What if I, what if I is a fucked up child, to me this is love? Yeah, well, to Sid, it was... like again but he didn't hate but he didn't hate his toys

he was just more he was a curious little fella yeah i don't think he cared like he felt totally neutral to his toys and he's like fuck it they are tools and i am experimenting and i have an incredible imagination by making a a fuck-up spider baby so like when jackson has his bag of marbles and he puts them in his mouth

the marbles are happy about that because jackson feels love for the marbles in his mouth because it's something he's really wanted to do for a lot However, but the marbles will be like, oh, no, we could choke this boy. So they'd be afraid. They'd be all tense inside the bag. Turn marbles aren't on on the list. Well, I found a list of 20 most dangerous toys.

And marbles, like, just like things being choking hazards, that's not like what you need to worry about. Can I guess one of the top five, I reckon? It's that game possibly from the 50s or the 70s, somewhere in that range, where it was like lawn darts, but you threw them into the air. And then they just rained down the floor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think a law was passed to stop that because somebody or multiple children. How did that work?

Was it like there was a target on the ground? It was just lawn darts that had a very, very sharp spike. I think there are collectors items now. It's so funny. But yeah, there was no regulations and they were just, they were lawn darts. But like a game people would end up playing was, yeah, to throw it up and then to, I don't know. Because it's funny. Guess the ideas you throw it in the air that you run out of the way.

But you're running out like the, you couldn't lose that game by getting a lot. lawn dart embedded in your brain. So, the list that I have, it's not necessarily ranked, but I have a feeling based on what one and two are that it's sort of ranked.

Lawnd arts was nine. Oh, okay, wow. It doesn't say anything about kids dying, but over 6,000 kids ended up in hospital in the 70s and 80s, and they weren't banned for good until 1988. Yes. And they occasionally called them Jarts.

Jarts? What the hell? I don't know. That's crazy, dude. Anyway, number one was a toy from 2007 called Aquedots. Yeah. It's because you arrange small beads, spray them with water, and then they fuse together. So, like, make, like, those little plastic.

Oh, yeah. Okay, I know the kind of thing. Yeah. That's sad. Imagine being a lawn dart in the toy story. You'd be so happy. Yeah. Getting, getting plagued, we've been flung.

And we're like, yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm going to hit that kid. Or you're like, I don't want to hit the kid. And then it's crazy to imagine your vision going like. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Hair, hair, red. Oh, no.

I'm in a brain. You're probably thinking that Aquedos got banned for being a choking hazard. Yeah. Wrong. Oh. It's because the dots were covered in GHB. Oh, no. Do you know what that is?

Some sort of bad chemical that really messes you up. No, the algorithm is not going to like the second word of this because it's one of those bad ones. Not a slur. Yeah, that's good. But it's the date drug. Yeah. Yeah. So kids went to hospital like real sick and it was like, what the fuck?

Why would they do that? Why would they make that? Well, I guess it has to be. Anyway, and then number two was the atomic laboratory kids. Oh, yeah. Where they contained four times of actual uranium. To be a kid at the dark. Yeah.

Look, it's glowing. Look, I'm glowing. Look, I'm sick. I'm so sick. Anyway, magnets in toys is what fucks up kids. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You swallow a magnet.

Because if you swallow one magnet, you're fine. but if you swallow two magnets, your entire guts are locked. Also, anything with a battery as well. Eating batteries? Oh, no. Yeah, it's, wow, the chemical reaction that can happen

when you eat a battery and then the burns. You should not eat batteries. That's a plummy the death style hot tip. Don't eat batteries. There's a lot of cool things to put in your mouth. I guess, yeah.

You know? Yeah, well, yeah. Like, it's in life in general. You know, like, if a genie came to me it was like you get, say, 40 wishes, where I could use some kind of just that we're going to be like that, you know, they're not life-changing.

I might be like, let me eat anything. Yeah. You know? Let me put anything in my mouth consequence-free. And then you could just suck down marbles and batteries all day. Come on, dude. How satisfying.

Yeah, anyway. Eat rocks. You're fucking kidding me, dude. Go to the beach, eat sand. Dude, don't eat sand. These are things like... Sand has a bad mouth feel. You know what...

Yeah, I don't want to eat. I don't eat sand. I don't eat sand. I don't eat dirt. Yeah. I could eat like sod, like, you know, like a big wet bit of dirt with grass on top. Like a cow, that's pretty appealing. Yeah.

That's just cow shit to me. I don't know if you meant, like, cow feces or you're like shit for cows. That's just cow shit, dude. Dude, grass. Yeah. It's not guy shit. It's cow shit. Cows be doing a lot of cool stuff.

Yeah. You know, try and deny it, dude. Chewing cod. Chewing cod. Hanging out in a field. Moving? Moving? Oh my God.

Getting milked? Oh, yeah. Okay, you might have won me over. Sub-cash shit's cool, dude. I'll say it, dude. Yeah, maybe a Wii fit balloting board's not the, not the, well, I just think you're doing so little with your life and then you're abandoned. Yeah. Like, sometimes I'm like, balance board.

You bought once, maybe you used once or like not even used. Maybe never, like I come with the Wii. Yeah. And they go, oh, I don't want to play that. I want to play Skyward Sword. And so you just put me in the... You sell me or you throw me in the bin. Yeah.

You never played with. You're pristine. Yeah. You're still in the box. Do you think you can... If you're... Say, I'm a Wii Fitboard. Yeah.

That comes with a Wii fitness game. Mm-hmm. That has MES in it. Mm-hmm. When ever, you know, the human beings up there... Can I talk through the MES? But I guess the TV would have to be on. Is the TV a guy?

No. No. No. I guess not. I guess like with lost touch with all this newfangled technology What is toy? Yeah,

Like video game toy? This was the thing I was thinking. Toy Story 5 says yes I guess But Toy Story 2 says no What about this? What about that? What about this?

Okay, you're a retired adult And you love playing You love doing a little bit of like building In your shed Without for any practical purpose It's not your job, it's for fun What am I building? You're building

Birdhouses It doesn't fucking matter. Okay. And then you get a hammer for your birthday. I say, Charles Ahmed, I know you love building birdhouses. Here's a hammer. Not a toy. That hammer is kind of a toy.

Yeah, but it's not a toy. It's a tool. Yeah, but you're not using it to, you know what I mean? You're using it for fun. It's for pleasure. And it's your hammer that you have a lot of love and affection for. You can throw a hat. If I said here, you've been, we've made a fun game where we've put a peg in the ground

that we're going to try and throw a hat on it. Yeah. We got a deserted island. No, it is really bored and don't want to do it on the internet out. There's no power. We're really bored. We're trying to rediscover our roots.

Is this kind of thing where you're sitting down, you put a hat down, you're trying to flick cards into the hat? Okay. You know, I'm there. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, it's just like, and if I bought you a hat, but you planned on... Well, if you bought me a hat specifically for the hat game,

yeah. Then maybe that hat's a toy. Well, what a deck of cards? Are they a toy? Oh, yeah. Kind of. In a way. Is it a doll. What about, like, um,

say just a tiny piece of a board game. Yeah. Say like a little meatball or these little tiny things, say in a game of Monopoly, right? Yeah. The famous Measball Monopoly piece. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, meetball. But, like, yeah, those little meatballs that they have. Yeah.

Where, like, oh, yeah, I use this in, you know, a particular board game. But, like, once you've played with that board game, you never play with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? But is that a guy? Like, imagine, like, oh, yeah, I bought, say, Katana or whatever. And I love that. And, like, imagine, like, in the Toy Story Universe, you're that, like, the bandit.

or whatever he's called. A little grey piece. And that's you. That's you. You're all that. And it's like you're only ever being used when people are playing Catan. And then sure, there may be you're like, oh, these people, they love to play Catan heaps. And then they stop playing it for a bit. And then they buy the expansions.

And then you're not being used. Hope I get brought out. But you start to worry about your board games because it sounds like. Let them stop. Fuck them. Let them ride, I say. Or like a little tiny cube that is there as like a health tracker. Yeah, exactly.

Is that a guy? My role in life is to just to be moved from, moved up and down on a fucking track. Yeah. Is the board, like the board, like the health track of board? Is that a guy? And is the thing that determines whether you're a guy or not, as we've been speculating, a face?

Yeah. And if that's the case, if I draw a face on my shoe, is my shoe a guy? Or if I draw a little smile on the face on a marble? Or is like the board game itself, the whole thing, that's the toy. Because Mr. Potato Head, like, he has a lot of accessories that they can. be not part of him, but he has a connection of himself. Yeah. Yeah. So like say a board game, if you have like, is the whole board game just one person or one thing?

And I'm like, can they talk? Well, if there's a, you know, some of the cards might have people on it. I'm thinking of like say, is it vidiculture where like the cover, like the board game cover is like two people. Can they talk through that? Can they talk? Is that two individual people or is that a board game? I'm just thinking that's one, maybe one person. Are there any guys in Toy Story that are two people? like stuck together.

Yeah. Well, that's what happens with Sid. He kind of combines toys. That's a good point. But like... With Sid's situation, is the robot spider and the baby had two guys? And the fishing rod and the Barbie legs?

Are they two guys or is that one guy now? Yeah. How does it work? Where's the sent he in a toy? I think it might be two. Me too. I reckon it could be two. It's a frightening world.

It is scary. I don't like it. No, I mean, it's bad to think about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, well, yeah, look, I was just gonna, I was gonna be like, oh, like, one of the toys that, like, can die in real life, like, is in, like, any of the toys. Like, um... You've accepted that too readily. What could he mean? I was thinking of the game, again, the board game, operation.

No, no, I mean, like, um, he doesn't die in operation, does he? No, but it's the consequence of operation, he dies. Well, it can, if you're really bad at operation. I would have assumed. I think he just suffers. I think he just suffers. I think he just suffers on the operating thing. Well, you can remove his brain.

Yeah, that's not killing him That's a good point Anything you removed from this man You sterilizing your hands He's dead You're not allowed to use your hands In operation I don't think you're allowed to use your hands

In real operations either Probably You've probably got tools for everything Yeah well you need to wrench something out of it I don't think you meant to wrench something out of a guy Maybe back in the day Yeah because in my head Like in my head I was like

Hey you just like I say you were like I don't know You scalpel open the ribs And then pull them up No don't pull him apart That's not That's not the mood. Yeah, like, for some reason, I'm removing heaps of intestine.

So, like, I cut, then, you know, grab it and I'm pulling it. Yeah. Like a clown set of scarves. What the hell? Clown with some scarves. He just keeps going. I think we're thinking about butchers. Who would use their hands?

Yeah, yeah. That's a good point. Oh, no, but, like, toys that could die. I mean, like, so an example would be, like, those, you know, those toys you make where you've got to plant grass seeds and then they grow a face. Oh, like a chia pet? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the grass dies.

Yeah. So the toy has a time. Anyway, I was thinking about that. And then I was like, oh, like, maybe, like, putting, like, pipe cleaners on, like, an actual potato. And then you're a toy that's rotting from the inside. That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad, too. But, I mean, obviously, the ones are settle on.

And, like, the one that people are screaming out for us to talk about, oh, it's plumbing the death. Which toy would be bad in Toy Story? What toy would be bad in real life? Sounding Rod. Wow. That would be bad. Basically, any. Oh, well.

White, though. No, let me, I'll explain my reasoning. Okay. Any sex toy that is, I would say, not necessarily extreme, but, um, no, on the, uh, heavier end of, uh, you know, you're getting out of vanilla. And I would say that, yeah,

sounding is well and truly out of vanilla. I would agree. So, uh, but even if people are into that, you, you like sounding. Yeah. It's probably, and with the people that like sounding, It's probably a little treat. But then you have to go really far

if you get into the guy that sounds every day. Yeah. So, like, you're a sex toy that's got one specific use. It's probably not going to get used that often. True. So you're like, all like the fucking gaping prongs. Same deal. Wow.

Yeah. Wow. To be the gaping prongs. What's it called this? Speculum. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess. And that'd be funny to be like, oh, I'm a spouser. You're neutral. You have no sentience because you're a medical product.

True. Or a tool to use and then suddenly you gain sentience for some reason. You're like, wait a second. What am I? I'm a... Why? Because you got some base level understanding of what you were made for, like Buzz does. You go, oh, I'm a medical device. Oh, somebody must be getting a colonoscopy. No.

In a way. No. It's also funny to imagine the Toy Story, like Toy Story, one plot happening, but with a vibrator and a speculum. The speculum comes in and is like, I'm the new favorite toy. The vibrator's like, I don't think so. I think I'm going to get more used to you in the long run, buddy. I'm not worried about my position in the sex toy hierarchy.

Hey, good luck. I think it's going to be you and anal beads spending a lot of time together. Okay, pal. Do you reckon in the sex toy hierarchy, there's like a kind of divide between the ass toys and the pussy toys? I hope so. I would imagine there would be too. Yeah, I mean, you don't want to mix.

When you go to the sex, go to a sex shop. There is a divider. Well, I imagine it's the vibrator or the dildos. Yeah, it's called the fucking gooch. Yeah, it's also called, you know, a flared bass. Yeah, that is true. That is true. But that, I mean, you know, if the vibe...

Also, you shouldn't be using the same toy for both. Well, no, that's what I mean. Even with cleaning, I wouldn't be like... But if the dildo... That's my ass old. Yeah. That's my... Yeah, well you got the butt plug in the dildo.

And my mouth dildo. These are the dildos I jerk off. I got a lot of different dildo. I can put my pussy dildo into my mouth dildo. I don't have a problem with that. I'm not putting my ass. No, nobody else to my mouth dildo. I would also never put my jack off dildos into my mouth.

Not because there's anything wrong with that, but just because that defeats the purpose of the mental game I'm doing. I will jack them off and not look. I would never suck them off. My hands are filthy. jacking off dildo's own way. You're getting an elaborate setup here. I like it.

But I was going to say, the pussy dildo and the butt plug, you can imagine them having like an animosity toward one another. Because the pussy dildo is like, well, at least I'm not the butt plug. And the butt plug's like, no, but for me, that's good. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's what I want. I think they'd be the best of friends.

They'd be best friends. Usually we're talking between a wall. It's nice to see you. That's true. And then when they get used together, they get used together, they get said. How are you doing? Those would be muffles. awesome, but like, yeah, like a

butt plug and a sounding rod might get used at the same time, but sounding rod's only coming out every now and there. They're getting used at the same time and talking to each other muffles through the whole body. Once again, I don't know enough about sounding. Just Google it. Just open up your little machine and Google it.

But if you are into sounding, like how often... Hey, Siri, Google sounding. But if you're into that, like, how often are you using that? Again, is it, in there with sounding, is it like a thing where people are, using it and they're wearing it the whole day? I don't think so. Like I don't know.

A bot plug you might, but I don't know the sounding rod. So a butt plug, the cheeks can cover it tastefully. Yeah. And you can live your day. And then when you sit down or you bend over or you're doing stuff,

like ooh, that's fun. Yeah. Sounding rod full on just sticks out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you get like a bit more malleable sounding rod.

Like a pipe clue. Like a pipe switch. Yeah, yeah. It's a flexible sounding rod. Yeah. I don't, I don't know enough about sounding rods. And I don't want to know enough

You know what it means one of those ones? I'm like, you know what? Hey, hey. It's not for me. Hey, Alexa. Show me sounding rods. Yeah. Hey, Alexa. Add a sounding rod to my shopping cart. There's a bunch of people that were going to send us marbles that are like, actually.

No. No. They're on Amazon with the marbles and they see a sounding rod get added. You know what? That's scary for us. They're putting marbles in their pack. They've changed your dress. That's so fun.

We're about to get sent marbles and sounding rods. The algorithm that then will happen for that individual who's getting sounding rods sent and marbles. Oh, no. What do we? Well, with the potato that's rotting. Yeah. So you're a potato.

Yeah. Like a traditional old school Mr. Potato head. Yep. Right? Because they used to just be potatoes. Yeah. You stick in nose and eye. Yeah.

You're alive as long as the potato is alive. Yeah. Well, no, because I guess it's, as long as it's just being played with in the eyes and nose and mouth and stuff. So if you took the mouth out and put it on a cute potato. Because, yeah, he can see through his own eyes, whatever they are. That's a good point. He becomes the flatbread.

Yeah. If you took the eyes, nose and mouth out of the original potato and put it in something else, they would still be seeing and talking. And they can move it as in Toy Story 3 with the tortilla. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So I guess, yeah, but they would know what rotting feels like.

That's pretty cool to give your toys, you know. Would it know what rotting though? I would finally get the plumbing the death star experience of how it feels to rot from the inside. But we don't know what's worrying is? Because like when Mr. Potato Head does put himself on the tortilla, is he being, can he feel with the like tortilla? A pigeon attacks him, but he's not like he's screaming in pain. Well, I don't have to- He's just more like, get away, go away, because I'm, you're impeding my goal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm being torn apart by a bird. I guess. Well, Buzz doesn't appear to feel pain when he falls off the, that's a good point.

The balcony and he loses his arm. He just, like, lies there and accepts it. Yeah, I guess I just Fuck my horrible, horrible toy life. I guess they just don't have pain receptors. That's true. At all. Well, I guess I wouldn't feel... They do fear death, though. Well, yeah.

They feel like oblivion, but they don't fear pain. So I guess they wouldn't care about this, like, potato oozing and rotting because I'm like, well, who cares? I'm not even feeling that. Again, that just takes me back to why I settled on... No, you made the right choice. It's born and ignored. No, yeah. Imagine you're like, oh, I'm going, I buy the stay.

Maybe I'm into this. Nope. No. Nope, no, no, no, no for me. And I can't return it, and I couldn't possibly throw it out, because that feels weird, too. So it's time to sit as a horrible memory of the day I almost lost my mind. You're just in the back of a draw somewhere. And you just roll back there.

But that's why I'm thinking, like, the person who is really loves to sound, I'm like, how often are they doing it? I don't know. That's the thing. I don't know. Probably, no. Probably it's like a... I don't want to. Maybe it's like stretches with your ears, like, the first time you're doing. to it's like not so good but then you just

like slowly get a thicker and thicker rod. I've got to Google this. Yes! I reckon. My guess would be like if you're really into it and you're used to it, you can do it like once a fortnight. I reckon it's way more than that. Reckon like two or three times a week? Yeah, probably. Get home from work.

You tired? Yeah, just sounds to... Stick a rod up your penis, chuck on. There's a... The Jeffersons. Okay. Firing up Meet the Robinson's your favorite movie and just sound in a way. Sound of the night away.

So you put the sounding rod in, then you would take it out and jack off? I guess. Or maybe just having it in just feels so good that you just, like, that's enough. Oh yeah, because it touches your prostate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a health line article.

Because everything you need to know about urethral sounding. And then, like, one of the questions, because again, you know, how, like, I don't know if it's AI, are they grabbing, like, whatever it is from, like, other questions you can ask, like, does sounding hurt the first time? Although this, you know, this may sting a little

because of the irritation in the urethral wall. The discomfort is often temporary. You did this. You did this. A person should also sterilize the sound and, oh, they call it the sound.

Oh, I don't like that. Okay, okay. It's called sounding because that's how you measured depth at sea, right? That's awesome. Ah, I didn't realize why it's cool. You sound to the sea and now also your body through your penis.

It's really funny to imagine a bunch of guys in the 1920s or whatever to drop something into the Arctic Ocean. And someone was like, oh. It would it be crazy to do it? Guys, hear me out. I just realized I have an extra hole of my body that I have done nothing with. So it says here, again, safety is paramount.

Whoa. So again, as using improper tools or excessive force can lead to complications like pain, bleeding. Or really, you're withdrawal injuries. It's important to consult a healthcare professional, if any, even minor complications arise. Sounding is also, I mean, It's not sounding... Oh, that does not look good. This one's got...

It's bumpy. It's like a fish hook. It's bumpy. I am... Well, different text is ribbed for her. That was actually a lot better than I thought, because I thought there was going to be a penis at knotss attached. Anyway, it can also be used for medical reasons.

Yeah, that's true. Johnny Knoxville had to get into sounding twice a day. That's crazy. Yeah, he dropped a motorbike on it. Yeah. Did you have to get into it or is it just... more of a, I'm getting no sexual gratification of this. No, it was like, do you have, do you have to get hard?

I don't know. Or does it, I mean, putting a catheter. It's like a catheter. I guess like putting a metal rod in your penis will make it rigid. You would probably get an erection out of just like pure shock. Oh! I do love just like, again, just skimming this. When done safely and properly, it can be a satisfying form of sexual play.

Intrigued. No. Read on to learn more about why it's done, what I actually use, and most importantly, how to do it safely. Thank you for... I keep thinking about it's an improper. Why do people do it, is one of the headings. Great, great.

To check off. Yeah, because it feels awesome. The journals are dense with nerves, one like I guess. I keep imagining they're like, don't put, like, improper things in there. I keep imagining putting, like, you know, with a pen. Yeah. You pull out the pen. Oh, I didn't even...

Slide that in and then write your name on a piece of paper. That's awesome. I didn't even think about, um, I guess people, you know, with a vagina. Of course. Because I just need a urethra to go. Because it's like, yeah, the urethra passes by particular sensitive areas, you know, in the penis head, the clitoris and the g-spot.

I'm like, oh, I guess, yeah. All you need is a urethra and you can have the time of your life. And it can also stimulate the prostate. Well, if it's inserted deeply enough, you really, and it's taboo! Exclamation mark. So I think it's pretty safe to say that being a sounding rod in this universe, all the toy story universe is an interesting experience and maybe not one I'd recommend.

No, yeah, hey, me neither. You know, it's not forever one. Can I hit you with this just a couple of sentences? So why, just before you do that, I just want to end it with this. I've been fighting for my life for like 10 minutes. Are there any benefits? There aren't any other benefits to sounding. That's awesome.

But sounding could provide sexual fulfillment, which may help you feel happier and even less anxious or depressed about your sex life. And I know, Jack, how does it feel? start a riff on this, but I can't stress it. No, I'm trying to wrap up so you can piss, because I need to piss too. All this penis sore. Yeah. So, oh, there's a lot to, okay, look, he made me do this. Look, hey, if you're going to do it, do it slowly and gently, and seek medical help, if necessary from injury or toys that get stuck. That's a little message from media. Yeah. And if you want to learn more about sounding, why not follow Plumbing Pod on Instagram?

And on that note, I've been Joel. I've been Jackson. I've also been Joel. Thank you so much for this. Go piss. Just get out of here. I'll wrap up. You go piss. Okay. Hey, goodbye. Thanks for having me. And shout out to our listener who suggested this. Remember, you're a beautiful listener, but also shout out to our ugly ones. Yeah. Remember this episode's for tens and ones. Thank you so much, Christy Incredible, for suggesting this topic.

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All right. Okay. Am I beautiful before we start? Yeah, dude. No. Well, opinion is divided. Jackson, you quickly are the deciding factor. Oh, fuck.

Yes. I am beautiful. I've decided. Thank God. Oh, yeah. I'm also going to crack this before we start the episode. What are you drinking? Peppy Mac?

Zammett revealed your secret. It's Peppy Mac. You only drink soda water now. Yeah, I do. How many times you broke an edge? I accidentally stole a Lucas aid. That's the soft drink. It's like a health drink, right?

Yeah. It's carbonated. It's basically carbonated power rate. But I did accidentally steal it. How did you steal it? Of somebody or a store. Off a store. Off a 7-Eleven.

So my, there's been some problem with my, what do you call it, like NFC, where like you do your card to pay for things? And I didn't realize. And so I just tapped it. And they just kept out of the store. With headphones on?

Yeah. Playing music loud. I've done that multiple times and then got into my car as like payment decline. I'm like, well. Yeah. Oh, well. I was doing the same.

I was like, I got turned it around. I got donuts and a drink for free once. Free Luke's 8. I'm not complaining. Yeah. That's the clerk like, Come on, man.

I gotta cancel it. Yeah, exactly. God damn it. God damn, dude. So Lucasade is the only time I've broken my, uh... Well, that's not true, because you also broke it straight away. Yes, one time I made a mistake. So two times.

Well, yes, okay. And also, everyone is remembering all of the errors I made in my only drinking soda water, fucking New Year's resolution. Also, you stealing the Lucas has nothing to do with you like the reason you framed that like you were like

oh it's because I accidentally stole it I drank it yeah got nothing to do with that at all yeah well it was just an amusing anecdote around the other time you were doing the the not misdirect like the what's the fucking thing where you like

you just muddy the water so people get distracted maybe they'll just be so mused that I stole Lucasaid yeah I'm gish galloping you you'll be like oh he saw a lucid wait a second nothing to do with anything

Anything. What are you talking about? You were going to get the Lucas Aid anyway, paid for or not? You tried to pay for it. Yes, that is true. So a Lukazade and I forget the other. Maybe a... It was a Coke.

A Coke. The two times I've fucked up. My resolution. Thank you. It is a good... The only reason I care is because you claimed you had the perfect way of doing a news resolution. Yeah. I still think it's benefited me.

The perfect way, Zammer, I don't know if you know this, is you make the resolution prior to New Year's. Oh, yeah. Like a week out. Because then you don't feel. so beholden to the new year's challenge. It's not a new year's resolution. It's just a thing I'm doing. What would you say, what would you say like the, what would you count as like that's a successful?

Like, is in like using Jackson's method, what would you count as a success? I mean, uh, uh, uh, it depends because like how, how often was he drinking soft drink prior? And then it's like, well, if he was drinking soft drink every day. And then he goes down to, this conversation is over and Jackson wins. Yeah. And if he goes down from like, you know, he's having one every day. and then he goes down to like once a week? I'm like, that's still a success.

Yeah, but that's not what... I don't know how often I was drinking. And also, that's not what he was claiming. I was probably drinking more juice and soft drink, and I haven't stopped doing that. Ah, juice is pretty bad. Juice is worse for you. Yeah, yeah, it's so...

Anyway, start the show.