Podcast About List - Ep. 387 - Curio #7: Beyond Humanity | The Five Weeks of Benjamin Button part 4

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

We're back in the studio ready to discuss all about how Ben's true nature is really coming out to the light.If you'd like to follow along, create and watch your own "curios", or keep track of which timestamps are being discussed on each curio go to: https://www.swagpoop.com/benjamin

Okay, I want to do three minutes of... Three minutes of top? Yeah, I got to do the three minutes up top before we dive in. Patrick's invented an enema. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't invent an enema. I just said... Reverse engineers.

What were we saying? You said something about I wish I could fire water. I forget where we got this room. You were talking about fire water. Yes. Yeah. And I said, I wish I could... And you said, here, let's just reenact it.

Okay. So just isn't about fire water. I wish I could fire water. Yeah, hey, water, get out of here. Soda? Yeah, I'm like water. I'm done. And then I said,

I wish I could fire water into my asshole and pressure clean it. Yeah. And then you said, they have that. It's called an enemy. I believe I said enemy. Yeah. And then I think I was going like this.

Okay. You're zoning out thinking about the cockroach. And then I said my skin is crawling. Yeah. No, that was earlier. Well, that was earlier.

I see, I have almost no memory. That was earlier. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You said your skin. Yeah. Yeah.

He said his skin is red. Yeah. Got a sunburn. And he said, okay, now I went fire water. Yeah. Yeah.

So you were being racist. I was not being racist. I think fire water is a... I think you said it. No, I didn't. Which one of us said it? You did, man. Fire water is a much cooler way to say alcohol.

Well, I remember that's in like, doodle God. You'd make alcohol by the fire and water. And I was like, what the hell? Doodle God is the one where you're just mixing shit together, right? That's a bullshit game. It's not that fun. No, that game is a really fun.

No, it's... Scribble knots. Scribble knots is the real shit. Scribble knots is bullshit. No, because you can say, oh, man, I have a real problem. You know who'd fix this? Albert Einstein.

and then he shows up, that's the cheat code to the game. You pick one thing that basically does everything. Yeah, it's not a good game. You could write that into you could type in the thing that fixes everything. Yeah, you could do that too. There's definite cheat codes in that game. Definitely. Do you remember getting the big books?

I forget what it was. It wasn't Brady games, but I think it was Game Informer would put out like a magazine that's just cheat codes. Maybe. I would get that every, dude. That thing was so awesome. Were they magazines or was it like? I remember the stradet. I remember strategy guys.

There was booklets that you could get at Hannaford's, and it was just cheat codes for every game. Because I loved the cheat codes as a kid. Me too. I love... Games don't have chequins. You know what I got? I bought on eBay when I was in probably late middle school was action replay for D.S. Oh, I had one of those.

Yeah. Like some kids at school had that, and I was like, that is the fucking coolest thing ever. Using that on Pokemon and getting all the crazy ass shit. Yep. And then using on Mario, getting one trillion lives. So, okay. I bought... I went, because they used to have the Pokemon mystery gifts, right?

And I only got into Pokemon in college. And I would get, I would go there. I've told this before. I would go to the GameStop and I would get the mystery gifts. And there was one day where I was one off from like, because there was like the code and then you could put it in. And I think it was like, hoopa or something. Yeah, maybe. One of these Pokemon.

This is past my time. Yeah. And I was one day off from the, one day off from the expiration code. so I bought an action replay so I could put Hoopa into the game. My name is Benjamin Bartner. And I was born under unusual circumstances. While everybody else was aging,

I was getting younger all alone. Okay, you put Hoopa into the game. Let's talk about Benjamin. Okay. Speaking of Hoopas, Benjamin's about to get on the fucking court. He's about to be the age where he could enlist in the Harlem Globetrotters.

Yes. Which would make an amazing movie. He's also in New York now. Dude, come on. Oh, my God. Well, I'm not trying to jump back. No, it's fine. He says it in the first two minutes.

It's not true. Yeah, it is. Well, we haven't gotten to the two minutes mark. It's not in the first two minutes either. Let's hear the recap before he spoils anything else. So, guys, we are on Curio. Seven. And I thought, I was like, this is going to be the best one.

The best one. This is going to be so awesome. And guess what? Wait to the end. This one, I mean, overall, just overarching thoughts without spoilers, this one kind of, it continued,

it was, it continued the trends that I had been thinking about in the previous one. Okay. I just, I'm still, I'm just gonna say it outright,

I'm still not fucking with Benjamin. No. Benjamin, I'm not, he is the worst part of this fucking movie. Yeah, he is getting worse.

Yeah. And I think I was gonna, you know, I, now it's just on my mind, so I think I'm just gonna say, I think next time, next curio, I'm just going to let all my preconceived notions about Benjamin drop and I'm just going to treat him like a new character. Like as if the curio is introducing a new guy.

Because it is every seven years. All your molecules are replaceable. So just because I think that I'm bringing in too much baggage from previous curios, especially on this one, I was like the way Benjamin's acting in this one combined with the way he was acting in the last one. Yeah. It's just no good. But this is. Week two. Week two.

Day two. Week two, day two. Week two, day two. Part seven. Curio seven. Yeah, we don't say part. Part four. Oh, do we?

Yeah, we say part. Oh, okay. Curio seven. Curious seven. Okay. That's a good idea for a movie name. The Curious seven. Yeah.

The sequel to. The magnificent seven. Yeah. Is that the Adam Sandler thing? It's all their kids. No, that's the, uh, ridiculous six. Ridiculous six. Oh.

there's all their kids trying to figure out what their dads did. What the hell happened? Yeah. That's what they said. I don't know what my dad got shot. They're curious. We return to the button household after Thomas has confessed that he is Benjamin's father. Thomas tells Benjamin that the best day of his life was April 25, 1918, the day he married Caroline Benjamin's biological mother.

Thomas plans to leave his entire fortune to Benjamin. And Benjamin leaves unhappily, and Thomas is like, where are you going? Benjamin says, home. This ain't his home. Yeah. His home is the nursing home. Queenie is upset when she hears about this. She's mad at Thomas.

She even curses Thomas. She says, God be my witness. He got another thing coming. Yeah. Says it twice. And this is the first, I would say this is the first moment where I'm like, fuck you, Benjamin. Your mom, your long-suffering mother is complaining to you

and you just start closing the door as she's talking. Is this the first time that he calls her mom? No, he's been calling her mom since the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I thought it was. No. I guess I just block it out.

Yeah. He's been saying that since Curio, too. Yeah. He says mama. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He closes the door while she's talking. He goes upstairs.

And as he goes upstairs, what do we hear, guys? A clock. Oh, yeah. Grandfather clock ringing out. And I just wanted to call attention to that because it happened. happens right after Queenie does this terrifying, cursing wish. Yeah, God be my witness. He got another thing coming. And he does.

And he does he ever. Mr. Dawes shares the detail of his fifth lightning strike. He was struck while just walking his dog. He says he's blind in one eye, mostly death, suffers twitches and spasms, and loses his train of thought. But God keeps reminding him he's grateful to be grateful he's alive. I'm not sure how exactly God is reminding him of this. I think he's trying to kill him. every opportunity.

Also, in terms of lightning flashbacks, the least interesting one visually. They're getting worse and worse. So far away, he gets in. You're like, I think I saw this one already. Yeah. I have a lot of thoughts about Mr. Dawes. I think I, and I'm going to hold it till the end of this,

the recap, I think. But this, this moment was huge for me. Oh, and then, yeah, because Daw, after this, uh, does sniff the air, goes, and he says, storm's coming. He is, I think, I think Mike Clark, number one, Mr. Dawes, number two, Queenie, Daisy, probably like six, power ranking. Oh, power ranking. Coolest people in the movie.

I like that. Power ranking we should have done from the beginning. Mr. Cake is top ranked. Oh, yeah. Mr. Cake, you know what? The top tier is Mr. Cake, Mr. Cake, Mr. Dawes, Mike Clark, and Ote. Oh, yes. The second one, second tier would, I think, Tizzy.

dominates the second tier. Yeah. Tizzy and Queenie, second tier, second string, amazing people. We need them. Daisy's grandma.

Daisy's grandma. Yeah. Daisy third string. All the way at the bottom at F tier is Benjamin. Yeah. Low power character for sure. He is the worst character

in this fucking movie. So then in another kind of you know, montage storytelling moment. I don't know if this is supposed to be the same night or not. It very well could be because it looks like it.

I mean, it seems like it would be because it seems like, he's made a decision here, but he, in the middle of the night, Benjamin returns to the button household. Thomas's servant lets Benjamin in and sends him upstairs. Just fucking crazy. That's what I was like, I was like, you're just walking in.

He goes, yeah, he's upstairs. I need to wake up your boss. He goes, no, yeah, he's asleep. He's asleep upstairs. Go up to his bedroom. Yeah, go. Go pick him up. Benjamin stands in Thomas's bedroom as he sleeps and then wakes him up and tells him to get

dressed. Or actually, I guess he says, let's get you dressed. Wake up. Let's get you dressed. Let me dress my dad. They drive to a pier I think, yeah, there's a driver who drives them.

Benjamin and wheels Thomas in a wheelchair towards the pier and then with no words exchanged whatsoever picks Thomas up in a fireman's carry and walks the rest of the way which is like, why did you not be like, okay, I'm going to pick you up now

and why does Thomas not like, hey man, what are you doing? He's going to throw up. Just the understanding that they're pushing the wheelchair and it hits a bump and they both intrinsically understand like, oh, the wheelchair

will no longer move forward. So I'll carry you. And I know that you were walking yesterday with a cane. Yeah, but today I'll be picking you up. I'll be carrying you. Yeah, you're not going to walk and lean on my shoulder.

He did a good job dressing his dad. I would have liked to have seen a makeover sequence here. Yeah. I think that what he was doing, though, because it's not explicitly clear to me, I think maybe he was trying to give his dad a taste of his own medicine.

Because remember he, his dad, Mr. Button, tried to throw Benjamin into the river. You're right. He was carrying him to the river. He was carrying him

over the river. He was going to be like, yeah. You think I'm a fucking monster? You think I'm a monster? You think I'm a monster. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Now that you're old, now that you're old, I'm throwing you in the water, bitch. Wow, that's so true. Damn, I didn't even think about that. Yeah. That's great.

There isn't one detail here. I'm sure you have it in your recap. Yeah. The seating arrangement. Yes, definitely, definitely, definitely strange. And while we're also talking about him dressing his dad,

he's dressed up in an interesting way as well. Yes. I wish I grabbed a screenshot of his outfit, but, you know, and maybe this is tipping the, giving away a little too much here, but his outfit reminded me a little bit of Michael Fastbender, something Michael Fastbender might wear in The Killer. Oh, yeah. It was kind of, he has these, uh, uh, his collar is turned up and he's kind of pushing

his collar and he has this hat. It was very incognito. In terms of outfits, this is Benjamin's probably strongest curio. Yeah, the outfits are good. Some good outfits. Best dressed Benjamin. So, yeah, he carries him to the pier. Benjamin places Thomas into a chair and then pulls up another chair directly behind him.

Behind staggered. Off to the side, not directly behind. Almost as if he's aware of the exact shot that they're trying to get. This is exactly where somebody sits when they are about to kill somebody in a mafia movie. That's what I was saying. It reminds me. It reminded me so much of the Godfather Part 2 where they go out on. on the canoe with the uncle guy.

This is, you do not want someone, if somebody sits behind you like that, they're about to kill you. Yeah. And all parts of it felt like that. The driver like falling asleep, he's in on it.

He doesn't even fall asleep. He just covers his, he's saying like, hey, I'm not looking. Yeah. Whatever we need to do. Take them out. Yeah.

And also, exactly. We don't actually know if he did it or not. We don't. Because what's the next scene? So yeah, and here,

you're going to like this. Well, actually we also, they sit and look out at the ocean horizon as the sun rises and Benjamin repeats Mike Clark's dying words. He'd be mad as a mad dog. How things turned out.

But when fate goes going... His voice is also really... It's really getting... Yeah. It's really getting deep. There we fade from the shot of the buttons into a shot of buttons. Yes, we do.

Yeah, they're burying him with his buttons like he's king-tut. They sweep it into a jar and put it on his chest. King, bro. That's King, Butt. So maybe... I didn't even think about that. but he could have killed him there.

Definitely. It never even crossed my mind. I was like, but it, he doesn't seem. No country for old men. Yeah. When he's walking around, I think he did kill him. Yeah. I think it's very possible that he did actually kill him.

Especially if that is the same night. Yeah. Because what are the fucking chances that he just dies? Especially he was walking around with a cane and now he's dead the next day. Or this is a montage sequence and he's been making his father sick over a long. long period of time. But I don't know. He's giving him poison in his food.

He's doing things like this. Could be a Dorian Gray sort of thing where he's sapping energy from his dad. And that's why he's buried with his buttons. Oh my God. He's carrying his dad towards the water. And what's the last thing he says? It's time to let go. Warming dictator vibes.

It is. Oh. Wow. Yeah. Holy fuck. It is. I think he did kill his. I think, I mean, especially the way things are trending.

He like, when you think, too, about the things. that made him go to his dad is Mr. Dawes saying storms coming. Is there... That's the last thing. Is there a...

I can't believe I'm having this theory right now. Yeah. And it hasn't hit me earlier. Benjamin talks so much about death and how death is surrounding him all the time. He grew up in an old folks home. Is it not possible that he

is a serial killer? And he has killed all of the old people And that's like his That's his His pattern Is that he kills all future movies Edge of death I have I

You hold on to that Because Hold on to that Bro Because there's I think in this Very Curio There's more evidence to this

Okay Dead ass They They put a bunch of buttons In a jar Yeah And put it Which is so

It's just like Disrespectful It is Buttons in a jar On And you see Thomas's big belly. Why bury him with the buttons?

I know. It's so weird. I guess it's supposed to be like a thing for the movie. You know what would be tasteful would be to take those buttons and like sew them into it. Like use them on his suit. But just buttons in a fucking jar. Just a bunch of random buttons in a jar. A necklace of buttons that they put on him.

It should be something with some thought buttons. A crown made of buttons. It's literally, it's a table covered in buttons and then someone with their arm just pushes them all into a jar and then puts it on his body. These are his favorite buttons that he designed or something? You know, I guess he probably didn't have time to, he probably didn't have time to write his will or write out how he wanted to be buried or tell anybody. So they just guessed based on his last name. Yeah, because he was probably,

he probably had like six months left. Well, that's like Colonel Sanders dies. You put a bunch of chicken in a bunch of sand. Yes. That's what this would be like. That's true. If his industry was the beach,

then you would have put all a bunch of sand. Yeah, well, it has to match though, like Benjamin, but or like Thomas well this was just an odd scenario. Yeah it was. So you can't really blame

like that's such a confusing do you think if it's the same night he's like I'm leaving everything to you right? Yeah. Do you think he has his will drawn up and as soon as the will is like notarized he's like all right I'm taking my dad to the beach to kill him. Yeah I mean that is another piece of the evidence too

that he just told him that he's leaving everything to him. I'm leaving everything to also a man who's losing his mind at the end of his life. He's like I'm leaving everything to my old son. This guy who's definitely my son. Definitely my son. I think I really think if we went back and looked at the old curios, we'd see a real pattern.

I think there should, again, like Benjamin is always around when death happens. A re-edit where Benjamin is a murderer. I don't think you'd have to do any re-edding. I think that he's an unreliable narrator. The diary is covering it up. Like it's always stuff where he walks into a room and the lady's dead. Yeah.

And it's like, oh, interesting. Sure, sure. And this is one time. Coming back to celebrate. This is one time where he almost admits it when he's done when he tells this story and fades out on him right behind his dad, prime killing. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's where you kill people. It's crazy.

It's crazy. You can only kill your dad from behind. So they... Pretty much every historical document says this. You kill that shit. You have to kill your dad from behind. Queenie and Benjamin are at Thomas's service. Queenie remarks on its.

beauty and mentions that Thomas will be buried next to Benjamin's mother. But Benjamin says to Queenie, you're my mother. Yeah. That's just sweet. Yeah. But manipulate. One point. Yeah. One point for Benjamin. One point. Uh, you're currently sitting at negative 98. Yeah. Yeah. Um, then

Benjamin heads to New York City. This is, this is a moment where, and this was in theaters. And this was the seventh movie. I and everybody else in the theater would have been fucking clapping. He'd been talking about New York City. so much, of course he's going to go. This would have been like chicken jockey level.

Everybody losing in mind. Guys, he's in New York! And it's loud and it's bustling. It's really loud. It's quite another part of the movie where it gets insanely loud when everything else is quite quiet. Why did they mix this like the dark night? I don't know.

He's looking pretty young now. He's a little wrinkly. He looks bad. You know what my compare? Last time I think I said he was Kyle Rittenhouse. This time, my comparison point, he looks He looks to me like from Tim and Eric Bedtime story's Angel Boy. Oh yeah, Scotty.

Yeah, Scotty from Angel Boy. He's got a Scotty vibe. That's kind of his vibe. He looks like he has a little bit of adult swim makeup on. Yeah, he does. He steps out of a cab holding a bouquet of daisies.

Wow. And guys, I looked up the meaning of what a bouquet of, I mean, I guess I'm jumping ahead, but you can guess who he's intending to give these daisies to. Yes. I hope.

This is what I said. A Daisy bouquet is a classic symbol of innocent. Purity, cheerfulness, and new beginnings. Because of their bright disposition,

they are often given to wish someone well, welcome a new chapter in life, or simply brighten someone's day. Or because it's her name. Yeah. That's the other meaning.

He walks into the majestic theater to watch Daisy perform ballet. She's performing a show called Carousel. She dances around with a guy and then the show ends and there's uproarious applause. People love it.

Now, does he walk in, basically at the end of this show. He walks in the last 20 seconds of the show. Which seemed to be the part that Daisy is in. There's different people who are leaving the stage when he walks in. It's perfect. It's perfect manipulation. Another Spider-Man, Peter Parker,

showing up late to a play that is interesting. Interesting. This could have used a Bruce Campbell guy stopping him from coming in. There hasn't been too much comic relief. No. It's a movie play. completely serious and it's the stupidest movie in the world. It's like everything about this movie should be,

there should be at least one guy going, what the fuck? I bet in the original cut it was OT. Yeah. Because a legless old New Orleans guy walking around. Or not O.T. Sorry. Hamburt. I bet Hambert was the,

was the comment relief. Yeah. Like the, you can do it guy. Yes. He was like that. He was like that. He was always commenting on Benjamin.

Yeah. That kid is old. and then at some point it was like, he looks like a normal age. And he just does that. Looking very normal, Benjamin. Yeah. Yeah, the comic relief in this movie is

stuff like, I love flightless birds. They're so delicious. Right. Yes. That's the jokes they wrote. I don't think Fincher can do comedy at all. I think everything he does is very serious. I don't think I have whimes.

After the show, Benjamin hangs around the dressing rooms to meet up with Daisy. When she sees him, though, she's taken aback. because he didn't tell her he was coming. Reveal, he didn't call, he didn't do nothing. He's such a fucking bitch.

When she asks what he's doing there, and she says that she wishes that he called, he said he just wanted to spend some time with her, and then he hands her the bouquet of daisies while saying, you can just throw these out. He's such a loser. I hate him so much.

Instantly giving up. The combination of, before he's even been. The combination of being so obnoxious as to expect this woman's time, of you and going to New York for this. And then also being such a pussy

that you're immediately like, fuck me. I'm a loser. I'm a fucking loser. Yeah. Yeah. It is such an evil combination. It's also,

also, the first, like, I think it's the first time Benjamin sees any gay people, too, so he walks into the room. Yeah. And like, there's just like,

of like, like a gay guy right there and he looks at him and he goes. Yeah. That's the one. He does. There's a gay guy with no pants. Yeah.

He goes, What? like, oh, these new, it's supposed to be like, oh, these New Yorkers are weird, but it's like, yeah, you can tell. You can tell what it is. That is true. That is a part of this too, is that he's walking.

And I think he looks, he looks old enough that it could be, that like, it's, it all kind of plays as like old guy is like, yeah, what's going on? But it's like, he's like, he's like, he's what? By now he's like, probably like 27, 28. Yeah, he's around there. Like, because she's 23.

He just has, he just like, like, how do you go out and see the world on a ship and just, and take nothing from it. You don't become like a worldly guy. No, no, not at all. You just walk in everywhere and you're like, what the hell is going on here? No, thank you. I just want to go to a restaurant.

Males who dance? I've never seen that in my travels. He's from New Orleans. He's the least fucking, dude. Oh, man. Yeah, so he, she invites Benjamin. All the dancers are going to a party after they always go to a party.

Benjamin says that he made reservations at a restaurant without telling her, quote, just in case. Just in case. Just in case. Yeah, man. That's another disgusting hedge. Three months ago, she tried to kiss you. Yeah.

And you said no. Yeah. You turn her down. You got to deal with that, Ben. Daisy, not tonight. Just not tonight, Daisy. Yeah. So they end up going to the party.

Mm-hmm. And David is getting a lot of... David is catching some... Flack from the narrator's perspective, I would say, just in the way that he's written. Yeah. And I so much... Even with that, I so much prefer him for Daisy than Benjamin.

He clearly belongs with Daisy. Because who's this fucking old guy? And she even says, he's like... She said you're a friend of his grandma's. Which that makes... So you were a friend of her grandmothers or something like that? And Benjamin goes, something like that. Yeah.

Bro, just say, actually, I'm an old baby. I'm an old baby who's trying to have sex with her. Yeah. But so, yeah, check this out. David Fincher. Oh, my God. This is a self-incer character. Look, Benjamin.

This is how you love Daisy. You're fucking pussy. Come to New York, bitch. Stop living in New Orleans. I mean, yeah, David, David has a lot going for him. He has a great dancing career. Yeah. Benjamin Button is a fucking.

A retired tugboat man. Retired at the age of 20s. Retired to become a nursing home repairman. Yeah, who kills his dad. I mean, David is just way better. He's probably way smarter. He's a male dancer. Yeah.

Male dancer. He's very secure in himself. Or at least bisexual. Yeah. In the 50s as well, straight. No. That's crazy. This guy has aura.

David does have aura. And here's something else I wrote down. I noticed on my third one. watch in the background of the part. So like David and Daisy start dancing around and kissing and Benjamin is like and then like five other guys start touching on her.

Yeah, everyone's dancing around. It's and like that and but there's there's literally in the background there is a guy who is older than Benjamin who's with a girl. Yeah. He's with one of the dancers. Of course.

So it's literally being like, fuck you Benjamin. It's because of you man. Yeah, you're the problem. There's literally an older, uglier guy who's not Brad Pitt who's right over there and he's fine he's hanging out he has no problems. Benjamin you're a terrible hang

go back on the fucking boat literally Benjamin nobody is thinking about you at this party nobody gives a fucking cares not even like a crazy rager it's like 15 people it's somebody's house yeah it's like a dance studio theater kids yeah it's fucking theater kids bro it's a theater kid party

they finish doing their they finish doing their dancing show and they go to a party to do fun joking dances. Yeah. It's not even a real New York party. Hang out, Ben. Fucking drink some...

I don't know. They probably got vodka in there. That's your fucking favorite thing, you alcoholic. Good, do you have vodka and caviar?

Dude, get the fuck out of my party. What is wrong with you? What are you talking about asking I have vodka and caviar? But yeah, this, I mean,

this sequence just like, yeah, whatever, my opinion of Benjamin just continuing to tank. He's terrible. What could you... Why would you do this,

Benjamin? Like, what... Oh, and here's another detail. Another small, blinking you miss a detail. And the scene when Benjamin is talking to Daisy outside the dressing room, there's a phone in the background, like a pay phone,

and written on it, the only text you can see it says, don't write, talk. What does that mean? Because Benjamin stopped writing to Daisy. He didn't even write. And now he was like, I'm going to come talk to her. Yeah. I just wish that he, if he was going to do this,

which you know you can surprise people or whatever I mean even removed from their sort of complicated relationship walk up and be like let me tag along to whatever instead of being like I'm here to I'm here to take you to a restaurant I was here to take you to a restaurant somebody told me about

yeah and who told you about yeah what the fuck are you talking about the one person you've ever known you don't know anybody you're only know 90 year oldiness that's supposed to be like oh yeah I'm a talk about I've heard a couple things I've heard a couple things I'm in my travels. Yeah, you're probably right.

Yeah, I guess that's true. Somebody in Russia told me about a restaurant. Right. Yeah. It's probably like amazing caviar and vodka there. It's probably like the first Popeyes or something. Yeah. It's like some terrible.

Oh, you're from New Orleans. Oh, you should go to this restaurant. Popeyes in New York. It's a franchise they're starting. It's going to be really good. Long John Silver. Yeah. It has to be the worst.

I mean, no, you know what it is? It's probably like a like basement and greasy spoon like bar. Yeah. Also serves soup. That has reservations for somebody. He goes to the canteenah. Yeah. He would fit right in.

He should be in that scene. He should be in the Star Wars. Benjamin, yeah. Him with the, what's his name, Hammerhead? He should be drinking caviar and eating caviar and drinking vodka with Hammerhead. Most Isley is New Orleans. That is pretty much. Yeah.

Yeah. So Benjamin is unhappy. He's sulking up a storm in the corner of this party. He leaves the party. He walks out. Daisy runs out after him into the alley. And she's like, she's just this real talk. She's like, come on, man, what do you expect?

Like, this is my life. Like, I can't, I'm not, can't just drop everything. You want me to wait around for that old dick? And David is doing, I like, come on, babe. Come on, let's go. Like classic movie. And David's not being, by the way, I would like to defend David here. Yeah.

He's not worried about his time. They have a taxi drive. who's sitting here with the meter running. He's worried about this guy's time. He's not even being like, he's not, he's like. No, he's being way less pushy than I would be in that situation. An old guy's hitting on my, my girlfriend. He's just like, come on, you're coming downtown?

Yeah. Okay, yeah, no, just finished up. Come on. But, oh, and here, this is specific wording. Listen to this, guys. You want me to just drop everything, perhaps as if you would do if you had no arms. Oh.

He says, no, I think I thought that I was just going to sweep up. you off your feet. Sweep your feet out from under you with a chainsaw. Yeah. Just keep that in mind. I'm going to remove all your limbs and make you a bug. Keep that in mind. Benjamin said, I wanted to sweep you off your feet.

And also, keep it in mind, what did he just do to his own father? Yes. Swept him off his feet. Swept him off his life. He killed him. Yeah.

No, he swept him off of his. He's picked him up. He picked him up. Oh, right. And sat him down and killed him. This is Benjamin's method of murder. I'm serious. Sweep you off.

I wanted to sweep you off your feet. Remember it. This is his M. Benjamin's his M. M.O. is sweeping people off their feet. Then Benjamin asked if Daisy loves David, which is like, dude, just fucking get out of here, man.

You're old. I know you're not old, but you're old. You're old enough. You are in New York City. This is also what he told her to do. He was like, you're young. Go be with your friends. You're only young once. Wait, sorry, my dad just died. So, shut up. She says she thinks she loves David. He says he's happy for her.

Daisy leaves with David and Benjamin walks. away downtrod. No way he's happy. No. We come back to the hospital. This exchange is fucked. This exchange pissed me off too. In the hospital Old Daisy says, he came to tell me that his father had just died. And Caroline says, you

couldn't have known. And old Daisy replies, I was 23. I just didn't care. Whoa. What are you talking about? First of all, you literally didn't know. Yeah. Why should you? Why would that, that would have changed things? Right. That's even worse.

my dad just died. Now I want to fuck you finally. Come on. Come on. Please fuck me. My dad's dead. I'm so my dad just done and I'm still old. It's just like, oh my God, dude. He sucks crap. And this is the, I think, confirmed age gap that you were talking about. It's definitely, it confirms the age gap. I would say around five years, it seems like five-ish years. Which, yeah, it is funny though. He was 12 and she was seven when they first met. Yeah. He's 12 reading that book about a fucking kangaroo. I guess they didn't have TV back then.

I guess I would be entertained by a fucking kangaroo book at 12 back then. Maybe that's what, yeah, I'm trying to, now I'm kind of looking back throughout the entire thing with the, like he was 18 leaving and she was 13 being like right to me from everywhere. And he was like, I guess. Yeah, it's just interesting. It kind of map it backwards. Yeah.

Old Daisy tells Carolina, that for the next five years, she danced around the world in London, Vienna, and Prague. She has Caroline fetch a bunch of photos of her dancing from her bag and Caroline's like, what?

I never seen these before. You never talked about your dancing. This is strange to me. Why are these photos in this bag there? Why do you know nothing about your mother's wife? And her mom has been talking about dancing for the past three curios. Yeah, yeah.

Why are you just now, you just... It's been a week and a half. She thought that her mom was so delusional and delirious. She needed proof. It was not until she saw the photos of her. And she even holds up, during before this, she holds up a ticket to the carousel ballet thing from the journal.

Even that was not enough. She forged that. This is just a show. She just went to that. Yeah. She went there and she danced in the crowd like a freak. She stood in the front row and was dancing. I was like, sit down, bitch.

She said she did this for five years. Yeah. How, I just cannot imagine being that woman and not. knowing this about your mom, especially considering the way it ends. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's just, it really, I feel like I'm not sure if it's supposed to be that she's like a complete absent daughter or not.

Like, it really is hard to tell. I mean, I guess that'll get into it later. I mean, that makes me think that she is. I think she might be, but it really is just like, yeah, I don't know. It's strange. It's strange. So, like, clearly a better life than better. Like, the only cool, like, the movie is so much made, like, Benjamin sucks so bad.

Yeah. I can't even like, like, it flustered me that he's even like the star of this movie. Yeah. I would say he's not the star. He's just around people doing cool stuff and then he comes in and ruins it. He's a sad sack. He's a rector of death. You know who he reminded me of the closest existing character to Benjamin Button is the from

Schoolhouse Rock. I'm just a bill. I watched that the other day and I was like, this is, this guy has the exact same amount of agency as the bill from I'm just a bill where he just sits around and just waits for shit to happen to him. Yeah.

And then shit does happen. He's just like, wow, curious. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so curious. My case. He, in my head, he's like Mark Prok in

what we do in the shadows. Hey, guys. Yeah, he's just like, yeah, he shows up. He ruins everyone's mood. He ruins every vibe. Benjamin's a complete energy vampire. Yeah.

And he gets younger. Oh, maybe he's a vampire. Because he's feeding on people's death. And he's getting younger every time he kills somebody. He's feeding on death and he's feeding on ruining everything. Every time someone dies around him, he gets younger, isn't that the case? Uh-huh. Whoa.

He's a complete energy vampire. Wow. He's an actual vampire. Well, that too. Well, he's both? He's both. No, I think he's, I think he's, he's sucking the blood out of people. Well, I think that he's sucking there.

I think he's sucking out good times and good vibes. Wait. Wait. What? he said he's been cooking all his life. Yeah. We never seen it. No. What's he cooking?

He's cooking human meat and blood soup. Blood sausage, blood soup. And it's making him younger. He's a fucked up cannibals. And he knows that Daisy is so full of youth and vitality that if he can get his fangs into her neck, he will become an instant baby. That's what he's been looking for his whole life.

He's trying to become a baby because he feels like he was robbed of a childhood. Mr. Cake wasn't a villain. No. No. It was Benjamin all along. Also, human cake, something he would love as a vampire. Holy fuck. Mr. Cake, what's better to a vampire than a guy named Mr.

Right? Yeah, that's the guy you eat after you're done eating Mr. Dinner. Mr. steak and potato. Yeah, exactly. So Old Daisy says that even during this time, these five years of dancing around the world, Benjamin was even in Russia. Benjamin was never far from her thoughts.

At night, sleeping next to David, she whispers, good night, Benjamin. Which is weird. Really weird. Then even weirder, Caroline reads it from the diary, or at least she holds the diary and says,

good night, Daisy. And old Daisy goes, he said that. Just this sequence, I don't understand it all. Yeah, me either. It's confusing. She says good night to him in the bed.

Then in the diary. In the diary. In the diary. Benjamin says that he says, good night, Daisy. But that was something that... It doesn't make any fucking sense.

Obviously not on the same night. No. And obviously not even in the same layer of narrative. No. Like, it makes no sense. And also, Benjamin could have not... Wouldn't have seen her do that.

If we're going by, like, if we're like trying to just dissect what is happening in what sense, the... When she says, Good Night Benjamin, that's not something that was written in the diary because that's Daisy saying that Benjamin was never far from her thoughts.

That's her remembering. saying that. And then we don't even see him saying that. It's not even in the story. I have a theory. Yeah. It's not actually in the diary at all.

It's her daughter. It's like, it's like, time to die. Well, no, her daughter is like, it's like at the movies

when they say, I hope you enjoy the movie and you just instinctively say, you too. Yeah. She says good night. And the daughter says, good night, Daisy.

Yeah. And then he's like, he said that? Yeah. Yeah. It's right here. I think that's probably the best explanation.

I fully, I fully believe. that it was like something she was reading from Benjamin's diary that he was like, she's like, I would say a good night. It's like him saying, like, Daisy would say good night to me all the time and I'd say it back. There's a lot of confusing.

And the most confusing in terms of just omniscient narrator and stuff like that is coming up right now. Can we pause for one second? I have to pee so bad. You can pee. Well, I'm not going to read it while you're peeing. Okay, well, in this moment,

Can I tell you that this movie, watching it like this, we're at the point where it's starting to give me extreme doom. It's affecting my life because it's making me think that life is so short that it's only 10 curios long. And he's aging so rapidly. Oh, my God, that is crazy to think about it. And I'm starting to think of my own life in this sort of Benjamin Button well. Isn't it crazy? There's only three curios left.

That's what I mean. I can't believe that everything is moving so fast around me just like Benjamin Button. I like, yeah, I mean, this experience has been crazy. I think it's changed all of my priorities in life because of, I just, I can't end up like Benjamin. I know, I feel the same way. And you know what? Maybe that, like, maybe you misjudged it. Maybe it's not supposed to be like a poignant like, uh, like this is the beauty of life. Or maybe it is like, look at this awful fucking story about this fucking stupid guy. Don't be like him. Thank you.

Yeah, it feels, I mean, it is. is a, it's, uh, tragedy porn. It is. It is fully. I mean, and, and, and, and I think that there's so many layers to be peeled away from this. I agree. I think that I think we could do, I think we could, were you saying about tragedy? I didn't want to say this until the, until the 10th curio, but I'm just going to say it now. I think we need to just run it back and do another five weeks of the same. Going in reverse. Don't think it hasn't crossed my mind. Yeah. I was crossing my mind since like Curio too, to be honest. I, I, I, I, that's a day. That's like a dangerous thought. though, that's like, uh, that's a,

you could go back and forth through this forever. Yeah. Yeah. At the beginning of this, I remember distinctly saying, as soon as the fucking opening was an old woman in the hospital, I was like, great, this movie is going to fucking suck so bad. This movie is going to be,

it's just going to be like, oh, you got to, like literally the, the fucking speech that Mike Clark gives. Uh-huh. That's like the thesis of the whole movie. It's like,

sometimes you just got to learn to let go, like blah, but I think, no, what I'm saying is I think that's not the, I think that, I missed the conversation and I kind of just came in swinging. Well, I said that while you were here.

Oh, my God. What I said was, I think the, I think that maybe it's even, or maybe I didn't say while you're here, actually. You guys were talking about tragedy porn or something. My stream was really heavy. I couldn't hear anything. We weren't talking about anything important. I was just saying that I heard it affected my life and then I went.

It's affecting my life. I'm feeling extreme doom all hours of the day. I think that when you watch this movie with this close of an eye, it unlocks a sort of darkness that I've, never felt from a film in my entire life. I think it's ontologically evil. Yes. I think I agree.

I think that this film is a, is an evil, a hyper-evil object. Yeah, I think there's definitely, this is a dipic box. There's some sort of spirit trapped in this film. You know, people, honestly, in 2026, you're not meant to watch this movie one time. No, I agree. You're, let alone spend a month of your life watching it three times in strange fragments. Yeah. I think we are doing, we're doing alchemy, essentially.

I think so too. And we're going to find gold. I think we're creating, we're creating, we're finding something so much scary. Yeah. We're creating pyrite. This is like, you're looking for gold. This is a cautionary tip. We smudged the salt circle is what's going on here, I think.

Yes. This is you're looking for gold and you find like a, you find a creature that your brain cannot handle. Yeah. A type of a parasite that goes into your brain. Yes. You sift through the sand and the. sand has a little tiny bug in your like, oh, look at this bug, and then it goes,

yeah, exactly. It goes it down your throat. And then you are Vincent Nonofrio, men in black style, walking around the rest of your life. Doing that. He would have been good in this movie. He would have been amazing.

He would have been good as Mike Clark. So back in the story, presumably five years have passed. I think we're going to assume that based on Daisy saying she danced for five years around the world. Benjamin now finally looks like Brad Pitt, normal bread pit. No, no effect.

He, he rides a... Which is worrying for his, again, for his lifespan. Yeah. That he's been, this insinuates that he basically was born at 60 years old is what it looks like. Yeah. Yeah. He looks like he's 30 years old. Yeah.

I think he is about 30 years old. Yeah. Yeah. So he's hit in the middle. Yeah. So this is 1950s. This is, yeah, I think this, this is, we don't really know at this point. I'm sure in the next, soon we'll probably get them,

someone saying a date again, but I think somewhere in the 50s, I think. Yeah. Maybe late 50s. He gets the motorcycle. Yeah, he rides a motorcycle. This was my thought during that is like that was like the 1950s version of becoming goth or emo. Yeah. Was just like, yeah, man, I don't care about anything.

That still is, other than open road. Becoming Gothen emo for a guy of that age. True. It's also not a cool motorcycle. No. It's like an old fashioned. Yeah. I mean, it looks like an Uber Eats motorcycle.

when he's driving down, it's like not going that fast. Yeah. It's an interesting look. He rides a motorcycle. He works now at the nursing home. He's fixing stuff up. A guy in a uniform,

I couldn't figure out. It's a courier of some sort. A courier, but he also looked like he was the police officer. Or a military guy. I don't know what his deal was, but he comes to the nursing home and he hands Benjamin a letter.

Benjamin immediately, he flies to Paris. And this, I was like, oh my God, is he becoming a secret agent? That was my first thought on this. I was like, what the fuck is happening here? Yeah, well, I mean, he did spend time in the army. Yeah, the Navy.

Oh, yeah, right. Navy SEAL. Yeah, it was commissioned. He could have been the first Navy SEAL. That would actually, that would make the movie fucking good. Definitely would. Come on now. Guys, an accident has befallen Daisy.

Due to what only could be referred to as a series of unfortunate events. Which are, I wouldn't even say a series of unfortunate. I would say just a series of us. That's true. I just wanted to write that. Yes. It's a very lemony scene. Guys, you know what I'm saying?

Daisy has been hit by a car. I hope you enjoy my clock. Wrong one. Daisy has been hit by a car. That taxi hit Daisy. Yes. I'm just going to, I have bullet points of what happened of these events. This takes up a good portion of the curio.

I'm just going to run through them really quick. Yeah. A woman forgot her coat. She was going to go shopping, but she forgot a coat, went back to get it. Then her phone rang while she was getting her coat, and she talked for a few minutes. Meanwhile, Daisy was rehearsed. at the theater, rehearsing dancing. Then the shopping lady went to get a taxi.

But the taxi driver had gotten a cup of coffee after his last fare. And then the taxi stopped for a man crossing the street because the man was five minutes late for work because the alarm clock didn't go off. And then the taxi was waiting outside for the lady to pick up a package that wasn't wrapped yet because the girl was supposed to wrap it, had broken up with her boyfriend the night before and forgot to wrap it. And meanwhile, Daisy is rehearsing and showering and such. And then the taxi was blocked by delivery truck.

And then after rehearsing, Daisy waited for a friend who had a broken shoe lace. and then the taxi you stopped at a red light and then Daisy went outside and that taxi hit Daisy. How about this? What about this dumb bitch did a pirouet in the middle of the street I would say that that is the cause

because the taxi driver is at no fault here. No, no, no. She ran out with her, she ran out ass first into the street. Yeah. Yeah. So in this hospital, Benjamin waits in the hospital waiting room.

He gets taken in. He sees Daisy. She's lying in traction. Her leg has been crushed. Presumably she cannot dance anymore. I wanted a little more crushing looking. Benjamin and Daisy make eye contact. She sees blurry Benjamin standing over her bed, which I'm putting my chips down. This shot is going to be repeated with old Daisy seeing Blurie Benjamin. And she asks, who told you? Curio ends.

Yeah. The first, Kyrio to end in the middle of a sentence. No, no, no. I thought it was. No, it doesn't seem like it is. No, it doesn't at all. I think it's who told you. That's who told you. And this was one where I really had this feeling that is going to be into beautiful. If it opens with I was here, that would be so amazing.

That would be cool. I really, I was like, thank you. Like, you made that point that they have all ended at like specific parts. Uh-huh. And I was like, thank God we finally got one because that would at least make seven. That would at least make seven, the most special one. And it would go into seven theory. I think, I think, no, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think,

I think seven goes into seven theory because of its revelations about Benjamin's true murderous nature. I just want to say, who told you is an incredible cliffhanger. That's like a student film, short film, like, Who told you? Who told you? Because if she didn't tell him, who did? Right. How the fuck does he know? And here's my theory.

David. O.T. O.T. Theory. Oh. O.T. theory. Because who I was trying to think, who knows both Daisy and Benjamin. Mm-hmm. And who could be in Paris to know that this happened.

Or Queenie. Oh. O-T, yeah, yeah, yeah. Queenie's not in Paris. No. He's there with Benjamin back in the world. Who could it be? Name one character it could be.

I mean, David, that's my one guess. I guess, but David didn't seem to understand the connection that Benjamin and Dave's in. Here's my. But maybe in the past five years. Well, let me just introduce you to something called David theory. Okay. Which is that David has stricken up a pen pal friendship with Benjamin Button since they first met. Because he was interesting to be cool.

We didn't know about it. They haven't talked about it, but I have a feeling. Curio 8, it's going to be revealed. Stamp it. Stamp it. No fun intended. It's going to be, who told you, and then O.T. coming from the shadows.

What about David? What if David? And can I throw one more thing in, though? You look delicious. Yeah. You're flightless now. Oh, my God. You look delicious.

You look so delicious. What if that was the moment where, but where Benjamin realized maybe there's somebody like me. Maybe there's another psycho just like me. Yes. And him and O.T. have been on a, on a transcontinental killing spree. Yes. For decades.

Oh, my God. Check this out. Remember, I wanted to sweep you off your feet. Yes. She's off her feet. She is off her feet forever. He wanted to do this. And wait a second.

And wait a second, guys. Benjamin writes in his diary. He was in New Orleans. He got a message, a telegram of some sort. Come, come quick. Daisy's hurt. Sure. Yeah, maybe so.

Who could have told him? Who could have told him? If he wasn't already there. planning it. And how could he possibly know that a woman was going shopping and then forgot her coat and then picked up a call

and the taxi driver got copy? He couldn't know. He couldn't know. It's not possible. It's not possible. And what do people do when they're lying? Make up a story. Make up hell of details.

I say, I'm sorry. I can't come into work because my dog got hit by a car and then I started eating it because I got confused. What about... Here's my theory, right? What's the name?

name of the theory before you introduce it. Can you just name it really quickly? Boyfriend theory. Okay. It's basically pretty close to David Theory. It sounds similar to David. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because you remember, right? The package was supposed to be wrapped up, which she was broken up with. Uh-huh. Benjamin's already there because Benjamin was her boyfriend. And he broke up with her.

To make the package. To make the package not be completely packaged. And you know what else? You know what else? Who is the phone call? Who was the phone call? Bring, bring. Who was the previous fare?

Leave now. Mm-hmm. Bang. Who was driving the truck that blocked the... Yes. Benjamin is all these people, man. Benjamin is in the way. I think that Benjamin did this on purpose.

He did. I think he completely did this on purpose. He wanted to sweep her off your feet. I don't think he was in New York, but I think he called the hit in. I think he... Well, this happened in Paris. Yeah. Or I don't think he was in Paris.

Obviously, he was in New Orleans. But New Orleans could be Paris. New Orleans has French people. Yeah, kind of. And he also says, I mean, outside of this, the connection, he says, guys, also, also you know what this is completely? What?

This is fucking final destination. And I think you mentioned final destination in the last. I was hoping that he would die in a final destination, like Buzz saw, like, yeah. But he did, a final destination completely happened to Daisy. Or he gets killed by the very first laser.

That was another maybe theory that I had, laser theory. Yeah. That they invent the laser beam. And he's, he's split in two. She, what did I... Some guy comes to the nursing homes.

I'd like to test this new laser. And he's like, the army sent me to test this laser on the old folks. I will volunteer. So also in this sequence, Benjamin has some crazy narrations. He says, to introduce the sequence, he goes like, sometimes we're on a collision course. Yeah. And I was just, that pissed me off.

It was like, bro, what, whatever happened to you? When have you ever been on a collision course? You've never been on a collision course. You've drifted through life. You are fog. But here's what really pissed me up. After she gets hit by the taxi, he says,

life being what it is, a series of intersecting lives and incidents out of anyone's control. First of all, he's saying, yeah, obviously, that's what you would say to play off the control. Again, that's also how,

definitely how he lives his life. He doesn't control anything. But also he says, life is a series of lives, intersecting lives. that's telling. He sees his life. He sees everybody else's life as a subcategory of his life. Yes. Yes. So everything else, everything that's happening to everybody else is really happening to him because he is the first person of existence. It's all through his vision. Yeah. I agree. I think this sequence is extremely telling. Yeah. I would say. I just want to, I just remembered this, the scene where he walked

And when I first watched it, I was doing the dishes. And I did not... Okay, good boyfriend. I did not know that it was in Paris because it was like, I had my phone propped up somewhere. And then it was like, like, you know, the sweeping aerial shot. That's like how you tell. And then the hospital scene. I thought she was in New York for the first part.

And then I ever... Well, the first part is the sweeping aerial shot. Yeah, yeah. So I had to rewind. I'd rewind because I was like, why the fuck did he walk up to the lady in the hospital and go, bonjour? Bonjour. I was like, oh, I guess it's because he's Cajun.

Yeah. And then I like, like I scrubbed back a little bit and I was like, oh, right or right. Big fucking shot of like Paris. Yeah. Yeah. In that moment was he was doing his character from glorious bastards. Yeah. Yeah.

Bonjourno. Boniorno. Yeah. He sounded like that. He uses. I mean, the accent he uses an inglorious bastards is not that far off from this one. No, this accent is. I wish he played that character.

I wish that that guy was supposed to be Benjamin Button. That's a way better Brad Pitt. Yeah. There's so much more depth to that guy than fucking Mr. Button. Another, just jumping backwards, an alternate interpretation of Benjamin and his dad at the pier. Perhaps they're waiting for a boat to arrive. Perhaps Mr. Cake is finally going to.

Mr. Cake shows up. He throws him on Mr. Cake's boat and then they sail off. So many people die around bodies of water in this movie. Davy Jones. Is that at work? Is that a play? Definitely. Okay, can I go into Dawes theory?

Yes. This is a major theory. Get into Dawes theory right now. This is a major, major theory. So, Mr. Dawes, he says that, okay, first of all, he says storms coming. How does he know that, first of all? And could he actually be referring to Hurricane Katrina? Yeah.

Is he even seeing past the diary that he's in and seeing the future? And I think he is. He mentions in this same scene that he's blind in one eye. Now, this made me think of, I don't know if you guys are familiar, the Norse god Odin. Oh my God. famously sacrificed one eye for infinite wisdom. Whoa. So I think that, and Dawes and, and, and, and, Dawes repeatedly struck by lightning.

His son. His son. In this movie, sons hate their fathers. Benjamin kills Thomas. Mike Clark hates his dad so much that he wants to send him his arm. It would make sense that Mr. Dawes' son might hate him as well. Mr. Gato's son hates his dad so much. He dies and the war.

Mr. Dawes' son, if Mr. Dawes being Odin, is Thor, the god of thunder, lightning striking his father over and over. Seven times. days of the week, Thor's Day, Wotan's Day. These days of the week are both named after Odin and Thor. I believe that Mr. Dawes is supposed to represent wisdom. Julio, I sent on the discord, and I swear to God

it's the right one this time, and if it's not, well, it just has to be. I sent this shot that really stood out to me. This is the shot of Mr. Dawes telling Benjamin all this stuff. He's not holding a hammer, is he? He's not holding a hammer. So he's dropping a hammer.

This is kind of a one one perfect shot style scenario. But I believe for everyone who's just listening, this is Mr. Dawes sitting on a bed. On the right. On the right. And then through another door on the left, there is the bathtub in the nursing home. Real quick, by the way, guys, can you say in Benjamin Button's voice, just dawes? Dawes. Dolls.

Two doze. Oh, my God. Oh. And he's in his dawes. And he's in his draws. Guys, I believe that this shot represents. This is the point where Benjamin decides what his future is going to be. Ode is going to get struck by the bathtub.

Guys, remember the bathtub? He was getting sponged off in the bath by Queenie while watching the old lady sing. Also, by the way, singing Wagner, Volkries, Flight of the Volkries, Norse mythology, the bathtub. And remember I was like, I feel like this is a sexual developmental moment for him being sponged off naked by his mom while watching an old lady saying, I believe it was because he had that affair with Tilda Swinton, the old lady. And he refused to have sex with Daisy because she was young.

So clearly that did that this, the bathtub is a sexual object to him. So this is, I believe this is before Benjamin there are two dolls he can take. One is wisdom and one is sexual pleasure. Oh my God. walked through the door of sexual pleasure. What has he decided? He went, he killed his father immediately after this and then he went to try and

try and sleep with Daisy. So I believe we've seen what choice he's made. Which doll he walked in? Which dog? The dawe of wisdom or the dawee of old lady sex. He walked through the doll of old lady sex. The doll. I think he may have, but we don't actually,

I think he actually, the thing is in this scene, I believe he turns away and walks. He rejects both dolls. And he forged his own He's a combination of both almost. He kills his father and he has sex. I think he says, I don't want wisdom, I don't want sex. I want to kill.

I want... I have a blood. My only lust is for blood. I want to create pain and misery in this world. Dude, imagine, right? He says like all that happens, right? And then he walks over, he sees one of his dad's buttons, right? It's the biggest button he's ever seen.

Biggest button he's ever seen is brass. It's a fucking like a... square button, right? Centabyte cube. His father, Thomas Button, has been trying to figure out how to fasten this button to something. He fastens the centivite cube to it. All of a sudden, they're like, dude,

you are, the centivites pop out. They're like, dude, you are actually, like, one of the most bloodlusting people in the world, and we want you to fucking join up with us. You're Benjibal. We're going to make you fat. Benjibal. Like butterball. That's my new centibite theory.

I'm going to be honest. This is kind of fan fiction. Yeah. This is like, and then Reptar walks walks around. That could be, honestly, would be a way better movie if Reptar fucking showed up.

Well, Reptar's only this big and he's a toy. No, no, no, no, no. I want to throw out. You have a big animatronic one at the end of the movie. I want to throw out another theory that's kind of a half-formed.

Oh, also, wait, wait, speaking of half, uh, Dawes is half blind. Hmm. Who's full blind? Mr. Gatto. Mr. Gatto.

Mr. Gatto. Mr. Dawes is half Mr. Cake. Half the power of Mr. Cake. Whoa. So that's why Mr. Cake had the full power to create Benjamin He has double the power of Odin. Dude, I mean, it would seem that way.

Well, wait, wait. Is there a, like, a lineage thing that, who's Odin's father? That's a good question. Probably a rock. Can I, can I, I think that in this, in this movie, this here, this is one more thing here. Okay.

The sons are trying to, uh, get, get, kill the fathers. Yeah. The sons are trying to come before the fathers. Because guys, normally, Wednesday, named after Odin, comes before Thursday, named after Thor. But the sons want Thursday to come before Wednesday. They want time to run backwards.

Holy fuck. It's a week shift. And I bet that if we went through every other day of the week, we could find a character that corresponds to each one. Yeah. Sunday, the son. Yeah. Mr. Cake's son. They want a, who doesn't is a name. Mom Day, Queenie, his mom who died.

Uh-huh. Pretty much every woman becomes a mom if they choose to. Okay. Tuesday. O.T. Odin. Mm-hmm. They want a week shift. Tuesday.

They want a week shift. Two does. What is, what do, uh, what do all CEOs and, and people who work in industries like that? What do they want? Mm. A day shift. Week long shifts. Oh, yes.

Where you work for seven days straight. Mm-hmm. So in the end, this is propaganda. of this entire movie. Yes. For the one week shift. But I think that because I feel like

I felt since Dawes was introduced, I felt that Dawes had a very important meaning. And I feel like with this one, I really, I think that he is a character of great wisdom, great power. And I think he is the one that can see beyond the diary.

And if, if in fact, Benjamin is not lying and he did not orchestrate the events to break Daisy's leg, crush Daisy's leg, and I was like,

how could he possibly? know all this stuff happened, maybe Dawes told him. I want to see Dawes' balls. Come on, Dawes. Come on, dolls. This is kind of a half-form theory. I couldn't finish this one off. I don't know if it's, I don't know if it, if it's,

put your balls on my paws. This might not be an official theory. Okay. We can call this. Can't camera. Crash cake theory. Crash cake theory. Oh, the names got me excited.

That's gonna be the best part of it. Okay, I like that name. Basically, when the taxi stop for the woman to get a package. The package is, it's from like a confectioner. Yeah. So it's like she's getting, we don't see what she's getting, but she's getting some kind of sweet.

Some kind of sweetie. Yeah. The, meanwhile, Daisy is taking a shower. Water. Water. Then the taxi is blocked by a delivery truck. The delivery truck is from a flour mill. flour.

Before this, the taxi driver is drinking coffee. Flour, espresso powder, coffee. Espresso powder commonly used in 10. Sugar, sweetening sugars. Yes. Mix it up. What do you get? Coffee cake.

So that was my theory. Coffee cake theory. And it all mixed together. It all came together. Ingredient theory. And what has Benjamin Button been doing his whole life? Cooking. Cooking, which is... Wait, that is a hint.

I've been cooking my whole life. Cookie. Cookie. This is cookie. Cookie. Cookie cake theory. Okay, we figured out cookies. We still have to figure out what meat means.

We still don't know what meat means. Yeah. I mean, that still hasn't been figured out even in the world. Wait, can we figure out meath, though, like what that means in relation to this movie? Human Meath. He's cookie human meat. He cookies human meat. He can be doing that.

He goes, clonk. I have some meath. He, oh, my God. That's like a case. way to say meat. Yeah. I have a cookie as some human meat. Or maybe because he's

uneducated and he's like a sailor. Maybe they're like, like maybe Mike Clark's like, are we going north or west? And he goes meh. Meath. Because he thinks that the world revolves around him and towards him as a direction. Towards him is cookie and away from him is meat. Meath.

Yeah. This is... Or the other way. We're due meath towards me. This is blown my mind. Yeah. I'm completely speechless. I like. I mean, I said I had a lot to say about this one. This one really. I think this one so far to me felt like the richest text. I agree. I actually, I liked this one. Yeah, I liked this one too. I definitely, I'm having, I'm having to separate, I'm having to use my, what do they call it, media literacy. Yes. I'm having to say, hey, the movie's not endorsing

Benjamin's actions. Yes. Because this guy's a real piece of shit. He's a real old, nasty. Separate the main character from the movie. Yeah. So that's kind of the framework. Which I think is much easier to do with the Curio system. If I watch the movie, I think, I mean, I think so much about what it is like, what it must be like for people who have the, have the, have the. I've been thinking about that too, so much. Who are watching it as a full, watching all 10 curios at once.

Yeah. And I really think so much shit. You see Benjamin as a completely different character, I'm sure. I bet you think he's the hero. Yeah, because you, because all the stuff that, where we like Benjamin. which is in the first... I would say he starts becoming unlikable

when he has sex with a prostitute. Yes, he's adhering as a child in the way that most children are endearing. For like, you know, for most people, for strange people who watch this movie all the way through regularly, that at this point in the movie, that's like an hour ago.

Yeah. It's like an hour or two ago. For us, that's like three weeks ago. I think you're right. The prostitute thing is really where he crystallizes into a liar. He lies to his own mother. Uh-huh.

A sexual deviant. Yeah. It's clear that he went back and he killed that prostitutes. He loses his innocence. He loses his innocence. Why? Yeah, he smugly asks his dad.

You've been back to that house. Yeah. And he just gets less interesting. And then he finds out his dad later on. Oh, I guess, yeah, never mind. There's plenty interesting about an old baby. There's nothing interesting to me about a baby old man. How long did they float in that sinking boat before all those battleships pulled up and rescued

them? How do we know that more people or everybody didn't survive the submarine attack? Maybe he got a... And he started shooting Because we even see No, we see We see somebody hand the other guy Someone else a gun, a handgun

Yeah So there is a gun on the ship That he could have just gone around And snapped Right after Pleasant Curtis Gives him all his money Immediately a submarine comes up And then he makes sure to say

I gave the money to the widow But we never see it We never see it I think here's what I think I think that he rode that They drove that boat And Pleasant Curtis is dead that's the only thing he's ever said.

How could he have known where to send that money? He could never have given that money to the life. Maybe there was a note in the money that said, Here's my wife's house. No. He pulled up. Because that sounds so fucking stupid. They pulled up to toe.

Of course there wasn't. They pulled up to tow those chips. It's a fucking bloodbath. Everybody's dead. Germans, Americans, everybody's dead. He takes his opportunity, wipes out every single man on that boat, eats them to some degree.

Pretends that either bite marks or 50 caliber bullets coming out of the top of the U-boat. You know what actually is... And then calls it in. You know what actually is so disgusting that I really just remembered just now. He doesn't even cut off

Mike Clark's arm and send it to his dad. That is true. He should have done that. Yeah. He should have sat there as soon, as soon as he passed away. He should have gone to the bottom of the decks. he should have got a fucking saw

from the little... He should have cut off his arm and mailed it to his father. The only wish this guy ever had about his death. And this is the excuse you could possibly give is like, oh, he didn't remember. But Mike Clark was just like they shot up my painting. Yeah.

Oh, he knows. Oh, you're painting, right. The thing that I'm supposed to send your dad when you die. No. It's fucking bullshit, dude. It is crap. He's beyond... He's beyond repair.

He's beyond humanity. Yeah. He really is. I think that might be the name of this curio. I was about to ask what? Beyond humanity? Beyond humanity? I think that's pretty good.

Lock it in now. I think that I have now, I have such a clear idea of how evil he is in a way that I think we've been sort of dancing around for a couple of curios at this point. Yes. And once you see him as an evil killer, so much more of this movie makes sense. Yes. It all starts to line up. Yeah.

Everything starts to line up. Yeah. And maybe that's what Seven Theory is. is. Seven. Maybe at the end of the day. Seven.

Seven. Yeah. The movie. Maybe at the end of the day. About a serial killer. Maybe at the end of the day, he is a John Doe style. He is the father of Kevin Spacey's character. John Doe.

He literally is a John Doe. Yeah, he is. He was dropped off nameless. With $18, by the way. That's a big reveal. This is one fun thing about the kary system revealing all the way back in time. $18. A lot of money back.

Yeah. In 1918, $18, $18, $18 was. about $400. Really? Yeah. Whoa. It's not a bad amount to leave with a child.

No, it's definitely not enough to raise a child, but you can't leave the total amount of money. That's a start. And I wrote this down. In 1946, which is maybe around when they had this conversation,

but it would have been about $300. And that's not enough. Yeah. Yeah. So the line is somewhere in the middle there. But so Queenie was probably remembering, like, oh yeah, it was $18, but then thinking of the current inflation

and kind of not doing the math there. Yeah. If she had done the math, She'd remember. And they didn't have that tool on the line back then, so they didn't have an easy access to the inflation calculator. Yeah, it's an understandable. Queenie remains one of the only sympathetic people in this.

Yes. I'm so, I am still so fucking pissed off that Tizzy died. Yeah. Mahershala Ali. Yeah. Like, I guess this was probably before he was big.

He wasn't known as a great actor maybe at this point. No. But, like, he's in the movie for like five minutes. And have him. And he's great. Dude, have you guys seen True Detective Season 3? Have him be Benjamin Button.

Yeah. That would have been a cooler movie. Oh, come on. There should be genuinely. Have him be Benjamin. There should be a remake this year. Yeah. I'm thinking there's going to be the way that things have been going.

True. Well, there is the musical. Yeah. And the musical could spark Hollywood to be like, wasn't that movie fucking bad? And we have better CGI now. But, you know, I really think,

I was thinking about this this morning because, I mean, I had a lot of thinking to do this morning. Yes. Can I show my digital artwork? Please do. Okay. This morning, I put on Apex Twin Radio Mix on YouTube music

and I did my artwork for about two and a half hours. And I think genuinely, I think this is my masterpiece. Wow. I'm very excited to see it. Today, obviously. So every we, every curio, I do a different arts. style. It's mostly been digital art because I am a digital painter by trade. But this week I got

to pointillism. I tried to do it on my computer thinking that that would be possible, but it's just not possible. And I thought that it loses a lot of the charm of doing it on paper. So I actually brought the paper. I brought the original paper art piece. But if you want to, Julio, you can go ahead and go to the next slide. Wow. Wow. How beautiful is that, guys. That is Mr. Button himself. Wow. Zoom in. Zoom in a little bit. Wow. There it is. Oh, my God. Holy crap. So you can really get a look at the points of the pointillism. What's this, man? What's what? There's sauce. There's sauce on the paper? A little bit. Well, it was a piece of paper that my wife was using to press some flowers. And so I took it.

I guess that there's some flower on this then. Oh my God, was she pressing daisies? I don't know. Because that would actually make it so interesting. Guys, pointillism takes so long. Yeah. I used to do pointillism pictures back in the long time ago when I was on Adderall in high school. Were they ever as good as this?

And I sat here for hours going. Yeah. And it's so hard. You know, they have a pen. They have a pen that you could have got. I did this with a big pen. Wow. good work yeah do you guys think it's a masterpiece i think it is a masterpiece it definitely looks like

benjamin button do you think i think you could ask someone who that was and they would know who it was at the very least they'd say brad pitt this is this is this is based on the the original or the the the what's it called the original brad p poster the original brad p and i signed it was changed and julio put a question mark dude my initials rcp get over it yeah get over it i couldn't point to lism my entire signature. I do like that you pointillism with your name. That's a very interesting choice. Thank you. I've never seen someone do that before. Well, now you have because I have done that. Yeah. I know I'm complimenting. You know, I realized I forgot to do the collar. That's okay. I'm going to frame this and put it next to my bedroom. You should frame that and put it up here.

Not in your bedroom next to your bedroom? Yeah, in the wall. On the opposite side. Outside wall. Yeah. Outside your apartment. Yeah, because this guy, I'm not going to have a picture of fucking 10 Bundy in my bedroom. You should put that on your front door in your building. Benjamin Bundy. I'm an amazing artist now. Put that on the front door of your apartment, I mean. Not like the whole building, but like,

someone would steal it because it's so good. I mean, I think this is going to be probably getting... Put this in front of your people. Someone's going to frame this. Yeah. It won't be me. But anyway, there's my art for this week. That's some great art.

And I'm excited. Can we enter that into an art contest? Yeah. Yeah. Can we look up an art? art contest online right now and see if there's one that's like a submission thing. I'll do that. I'll do that on my own time.

I'm not going to ruin your life by doing that right now. I'm not going to ruin my life. It would actually make it interesting. I would love to see what kind of art contests. My essay would be very, very damning of you. Of me? Yeah. Because it'd be talking about all my doubters as an artist.

I'd never doubted you as an artist. You doubt me every even when I showed you my masterpiece, not, didn't care that much going, oh yeah, I used to do that when I was on fucking drugs. That's what you said. It looks like a junkie's art. I never said it looks like a junkie. Yeah, I used to fucking eat meth and do that.

Yeah. And I'm saying, I'm saying I would do that because I'd be so, like, locked in and focused. The fact that you did that with no pills at all is genuinely so impressive to me. Oh, I was on some pills. Oh, okay.

I was on some serious pills. Not any uppers, though. Yeah. Okay. Well, I was going to say if you were on... If you were on Adderall doing that, it's like, that's basically a cheat code. You did that in no cheat codes. I used cheat codes too.

Okay. I was on pills and I used cheat codes. Okay. This is what I mean. You are trying to diminish my art. I'm not trying to diminish it at all. And I can say every week, I come in and I show you guys art that I have fucking spent many minutes on. Yeah.

And you guys, I show it. And the first thing that happens is you guys laugh or you smile at the very least. Smiling's good. Have you ever walked into the Met? I walked into the Met. I walked into the Met. I walked into the Met. I saw a mummy and I smiled immediately. A mummy is not art. A mummy is a fucking dead god.

Yes, it is. You don't walk up to, you don't go to the Mala. You don't go to the Moma and go look at Stari Night and go. Yeah, I do. No, you don't. Yeah, I do because I'm like, oh my God, I know that one. I'm so happy to see this. I'm laughing.

I smiled and laughed because I was like, that's been just. All I can say is that you guys, you don't know what you got until it's gone. You think I'm a fucking doubter? You don't know what you got to list on. Look what is happening to your art right now. It's being vandalized. By our producer. I believe.

I would never do this to you. I don't think this is vandalism. I would never do this to you. I think this is additive to the art that I made. Look, I love poop. That's interesting style. You think that's additive. I do think so.

Because I think, you know what I? Because I believe in free speech. You do consider poop and additive. Yeah. Yeah. And I avoid additives and all my food. Yeah, because they are poop. Because they're bad for you.

So it says CP and I love poop. I sit here every week, you make a song. Some of them suck. Some of them are good. That's why I don't make them anymore. That's why I commission all the songs. I sit here and I listen and I pay attention. And have I ever laughed at one of your songs?

No, they're not funny. But I do sit here. They're not funny at all. I know. I sit here and I watch it. And I just ask the same level of respect. Let me just add. Can you just model, okay, pretend right now

that I'm showing you that you're me and Patrick and I'm going to show you a painting a digital painting okay it's just going to be a blank piece of paper but just imagine and I just want you to model with the reaction you would like

okay are you ready okay so I and guys this here's my digital painting for this week it took me 30 seconds and here it is I'm actually getting choked up a little bit that's dude

that is beautiful that is fucking beautiful and I would like for you to make more that's what you want us to do every week yes we'll do that next on a comedy podcast you want us to sit here and no we'll do that no I just didn't know

this is a movie podcast this is not a comedy podcast get weepy and teary-eyed yes like Burke Kreischer talking about how his daughter hates him you want us to do that his daughter hates him yes oh see how hard is that

she said that she said that she said that he had sausage fingers. If that was my dad, I'd... I mean... You might go, Benjamin. You might kill him. If that was your dad, you'd be so good at art.

Oh, yeah. You'd be the best artist in the world. You'd be taking it out on him. I just, you know, I'm bearing my soul over here. I appreciate it. I think you appreciate it. I appreciate it.

We both said we appreciate it. You're bullshit. I'm not bullshit. You're bullshit to me. I'm not bullshit at all. Yep. You're shit. Literally, I literally I said, I said that's incredible.

Pointalism is so hard. I was relating to you about how hard pointillism is. And then someone comes in and says, I love poop on your painting. That's called parody. If I did this, if I did this, if I did this, there'd be a fucking hole in one of these walls. Do you think that? You throw me through the wall if I did that. Do you think that when Weird Al parodied Coolio's song that he was mad?

Yes. Famously, he was mad. I don't think so. I don't think so. Famously, it was mad. No. I'm just saying if I had done the same thing, if I took your picture and I digitally wrote eye-heart poop on it, you'd be freaking out right now. You know why?

Because intention matters. No. Yes. No. Intention matters. That's back to that media literacy coming from Cameron over here. That's not what this means of all. I like that term, Cameron.

I might start using that. What? Media literacy. I came up with it. Yeah. Literally media. Literally media. Dude, don't docks my production company.

It's actually where I used to work. Oh, really? Yeah. All right. What is this daily mail article? I'm just going through emails. Dude, you're a screen peaker. Yeah.

While we're getting all over you, it's not right, dude. While we're getting all over you. I love looking at your computer. There was my question I was going to ask earlier. If you and me were having sex, would you fake an orgasm? Yeah.

Then just do that when I show you my painting. I'm not. Because it seems like you have some amount of respect for me if you're willing to fake, come when I fuck you. I literally, I literally did. I said God pointillism is so hard. I'm really impressed. Okay.

well, it's about... Well, actually, you're fine. Literally. You're fine. You're fine. You're fine. I'm freaking out. Yeah.

Yeah, we got some emails this week. Some people sent in some synchronicities seeing Benjamin Button in the wild, seeing a restaurant in New Orleans called the Curio Restaurant and Bar. Whoa. So that's pretty cool. We also got a few multiple emails

about Benjamin being a killer, killing his father. We did? Yeah. A lot of... of people caught onto this. I guess it's obvious. One thing that James said,

I'm not going to read this whole thing, but I really liked this at the end. I won't be trusting Benjamin's words from this point forward. I feel like his true nature has finally been revealed. I'm feeling that the case in the title might refer to the kind

a detective would investigate. Oh my God. Which I thought that was a really good call. This might be in no country for old men sort of thing. We're at the end. We see some grizzled old detective. It's the most fucked up thing I ever saw. Couldn't be.

He didn't ever put it together. What was his secret? All those secrets. You're talking about Benjamin Button. The boy, wait, just backwards. And he goes, and he drops his coffee and it shatters. He goes, he goes, all those secrets swept up and blown away by the winds of Katrina. Curious.

Oh, yes. He has, he's walking, he's transporting to the evidence locker, all the entire case file on Benjamin Button. And the winds of Katrina blow it away into the muddy waters. Wow. He's still trying to put it in the case thing. but the fucking side of the building's already blown off. And he's like, I gotta get these. He's got to put a thumb drive in a computer to upload the crime.

Yes, that would be a good ending. And then you see at the end, FEMA, FEMA is picking it up with one of them grabbers, and they throw it into a waste basket. SWAT team, swat team, busting in the windows of the NICU and do it and like, like SWAT. Get down. Where's Benjamin? And then he's a baby. and they go to arrest the baby, but he's dead. His hands slip out of the

handcuffs. Then he becomes a sperm and swims away through the hurricane flooded water. Oh my God. And it's an alligator. And then it's the origin story of killer crock. I was just thinking, why haven't we seen any gators yet? Yeah, we will. We haven't seen or heard. I was hoping we meet somebody named Allison Gator.

We were going to see it. Benjamin Button is going to be eaten by an alligator at like that kid at Disneyland, wherever many years ago. Somebody also sent in this article titled At Home with Britain's Benjamin Buttons The once married middle-aged brothers

Forced to live with their parents As they slowly regress into a childlike state And these are two brothers Who have a real-life Benjamin Button disease And one of them's name is Michael Clark Whoa! Yep And this is from 2012

That's insane, Michael Clark Michael Clark, that's just kind of an interesting Another synchronicity discovered In the world I like this one here I didn't get the game but somebody sent us this is on Steam

there was a Oh yes I saw this too Yes somebody recreated the Chelsea from Benjamin Button The Chelsea tugboat In what game is this This is DLC for Stormworks Build and Rescue

And for four Oh it's actually on sale for $14 But the Chelsea has been created In this game So you can actually get on the Chelsea In real life Oh my God This in the Steam description

description for this. It says that Chelsea was a real tugboat. I don't even know that. Oh, interesting. The original Chelsea was lost in December 2006. Rec was found 55 meters deep near dry tortugas. Some dry ass turtles. There were two vessels in the movie. One was the real

Chelsea. It was built in 1926. And then they lost it? I guess so. Whoa. It was lost in 2006. That's pretty crazy. We've gotten some great emails this week. I wish we could do. I wish we could read them all. All of them. Somebody emailed us about the

Benjamin Button reference in Forever by Drake and Kanye. Yes. Somebody messaged us from Dog Friendly Co. Yeah. They're turning six and they're celebrating their biggest sale ever. Yeah, I mean,

oh, and there was a really great one. I don't want to read the entire thing, but there was a really great one about how this is a perfect, this and Forrest Gump are great baby boomer movies. Yes.

Where it's because it's just, they walk through life. Nothing happens. Nothing happens. Their parents had a hard time. And then nothing happens to them and they succeed no matter what they do. Yeah. And they complain about it. And they complain the entire time.

Yeah. And I thought that was a really great analysis. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Thank you to Andrew. To boomer-hater number one. Yeah. I rest of sure.

We read that whole thing. Yeah. Sorry if I offended anybody and I hope you enjoyed my clock. I like also seeing people sign off with that. Yeah. It's nice. All right. We want to do ratings?

Yes. I, uh... Guys, you're going to hate me for this? I'm going to rate it a seven. Why do we... Oh, because it's a seven. Well, not, don't sue that just because it's a seven. No, because the cliffhanger was good.

I think that... The cliffhanger was great. This has started so many new theories in us. The Benjamin is a killer theory. I really laughed hard when he was buried with the buttons like King Tut. I thought that was the stupidest part of the movie. Yeah. Daisy getting

fucking clobbered by a car is crazy. Yeah, that's insane. The stupid lemony snicket style series of events that leads up to it. I think this one, if you were going to make

a proof of concept for the movie, you would make this scene here. I think that this one is the... But he would be older in the proof of concept. To me, this is the ideal post-childhood curio.

Yeah. Where it shows, there's a lot of Benjamin's soul that we're seeing in this one. His evil decrepit soul. You know what's really interesting too, I'm just realizing now, this one is so much a direct sequel to Curio 6. Yeah.

Like, where like this, like, think about it, guys. But like, like, these two are like, this is like a Deathly Hallows part one and two. Yeah. Oh, I see what you mean. It's two parts of one thing. Like everything is set up in the first one.

Like, like, Daisy, the Daisy thing. they set it up and then they pay it off. The dad thing, they set it up, they pay it off. Which again, it's just because it's... Yes. No, but I like...

But really, when you look at the from the curios... These two are kind of twin curios. Yes, where everything... I agree with you where they wrap up in that 32 minutes of film, they wrap up, they start and wrap up so much. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think that that's good. Which that's... I think so much of the movie is starting and wrapping up stuff. And I'm getting... I'm getting... getting scared of the end of this guys. I'm getting scared. I'm like, how can this end?

How can this possibly end? Because it feels like he's not getting old fast enough. And it's going to be the next one is going to be fucking montages, I bet. I feel like the last 15 minutes is going to go from 45 to... I'm going to say something too. Yeah, this is like, this is maybe... So when I cut up the curios, I uploaded them to Google Drive for us

and it does the first frame of every curio. Yeah. And yeah, the Curio 10 first frame has me worried. I haven't seen it. He still looks like bread pit. Okay, so they're going to really gloss over the youngness. It's really going to be, yeah, I think. All right, well, that's, you know, we'll have to just see whatever, what, if it's meant to be, it's meant to be.

The immortal words of Florida, Georgia, Line, and Bebe Rexa. So you're giving a seven. I think I'm going to go with an eight. Because I was so inspired. And I think, honestly, you guys, you just talked me up to an eight, I think. I was like, you're actually a hell of right. And I think you are right also that this is the ideal post-childhood. I think it is.

This is showing what it should be. And I've been more, and it's the most I've ever been interested in a not-monstified Benjamin Button. I'm going to go alarmingly high here. Okay. I'm going to go 8.9 on this curio. Wow. I'm going high. I loved this curio.

I think that it put a bow on so many things from the previous curio. And it really inspired me. And it made me, it made me, again, worried about the end. Yeah. So this is 7.96. Wow, wow. Which I think is still coming in below a lot of the early Curio. Yeah, I think Curio 3 is the highest.

Curio 3 is still the highest. This is just barely higher than Curio 2, which was at 7.9. But right now, the top three are, I believe, this two and three. Wow. Hopefully. I mean, I would love to see 8, 9, or 10 one of these pull off something, an average between

9 and 10. That would be blowing my mind. I'm excited to get, I mean, I guess we'll have to talk about what's going to happen at the end, but I think I would love to do a full ranking. Yeah. And are we still, are we happy with Beyond Humanity? I think that's a great name for this one. I think, I think so too. Okay, should we

Let's hear a song? Let's get out of here. This week's song is by Pierce. Now, I would have had a verse on this, but Pierce did too amazingly. And the beat is by my friend Liam. Well, you know, so many musically talented people. Oh, the audio's not on. This song has healing free to brain to be my instantly sober.

Wow. Touchdown in the city that doesn't sleep. I made a reservation, baby. Let's get something to eat unless he got a man, because you know the company's three. been a baby but you just flungle me oh you had a few drinks

for me I'm done on that song A little drug anthem Yeah Oh wait Go back a little bit Listen There's a vocal cameo from me

Oh really? Yes Where It is at the part where it goes quiet And then the beat comes back So I would say Like a little bit towards the beginning Okay

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Right here, right here. What is happening? He's hitting the dove button. Okay. Can you just recreate here? Hold up.

That was me. That was you? That was my K Blanchett impression. Really? The audio was too quiet and I was like, I need to like, I'm going to get you a drink. I thought it was a sample. Well, the sample was like under it.

The sample was under it. The sample was under it, but it was way too quiet. And I was like, I'll just do this right now. But sick. Yeah. The beat was by my friend Liam.

Look up ATL grandma. That was a great song. That was a really good one. Because I think I'm glad also to bring it back to some, some bars. Yeah. Because the past few have been a little indie. A little sing songy for me.

Yeah. Yeah. And I like. And this is a, at the end of the day, this is a rap show. where we like, we mostly listen to rap and rap. I just got the song for Curio 8 and it's back to rock. I like rock.

Rock's rock I like fine enough. I have to. I also think I'm very impressed with the combining, Pierce combining the concept of the song that heals, the healing frequency song. Yeah. And somehow also tying that into Benjamin Button. Oh yeah. And I like the exploration of what other things are reversed for this guy. Yeah.

Because that's the only we don't see too much. in any of the curios so far. Yeah, 100%. All right, guys. Another curio in the books. We got three left. It's crazy. It's curious.

Curious. Curious. That was beautiful. That's very, very interesting. That's very, very interesting. That might be my favorite one. That's very, very interesting. Benjamin, do you know anything about buttons?

That's very, very interesting Can I hear, can I hear So delicious You're so lovely You're so lovely I like this that can fly They are so delicious Again

Oh yeah Again So delicious That was pure's idea to put again in this Again You're so lovely You are a different child I mean,

Hey, boy. Hey, boy. I can't. Hey, boy. Seven. Like, this is that the video of the Riza of making the beat? Yeah.

The guitar center beat. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Well, um, next time on the Patreon, we will see you for. Curio 8. Week 2, episode. Day one.

Part. 9. Three. No. Three, yeah, part three. Yeah, see you then. Benjamin. Soapdra.

Benjamin. Benjamin. Yes, eight in reverse. Cheers. Goodbye. Natalb. Oh, wait. We haven't talked about our button dreams.

Oh, my God. Yeah, wait, button corner real quick. So, and this is crazy because this is just, you know, you can, after we recorded that episode, I was like, wow, Benjamin Button kind of is taking over our life. it's crazy that I haven't had a Benjamin Button dream yet. And then that night, I was sick and I had one of those fever dream nights. And I had just,

I was sweating, I was like shivering and I was tossing and turning. And I was just dreaming about, in my dream, it was, I was watching the like, I was watching Benjamin Button. And I was like going further and further. And I was being like,

no, no, stop. I can't watch. I'm going too far. I'm like, on Curio 7 or 8. Stop, stop, stop. And it was Benjamin on a boat. That's all I remember.

I wish I had like remember more of it. I would have written it down, but I was like, I was, I was tortured. I was being tortured by Benjamin. I was literally woke up, drenched and sweat. Like, it was awful. It was Benjamin leaving the body. It was. And then I woke up and I felt a lot better.

I, I had one, I had a very strange Benjamin Button dream. Maybe perhaps the same night you had one. Yeah, I think it was. Where my, my dream was me and my wife, Benjamin Button was our child. Yeah. And not only was he our child. was younger than he ever is in the movie. He was the size of, I would say, a potato.

Younger, older? Older, younger. Okay. And he was very, very small. And I was trying to give him a bath and I had a little seat that I would set him in. But he was so small as a seat made for babies that he would keep slipping through the leg holes into the water. And I'd have to blow the water out of his face because he was drowning. My God.

So I'm very protective of Benjamin Button in my dream. Yeah. I had a dream. it was like a fitness influencer, like a rich piano, Brandon Beeble type, like, really jacked guy. And it was a dream that, like, I was just, like, at home and I was scrolling Instagram reels. That is so insane. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it was like there was stuff that happened. There was stuff that happened before this. There was stuff that happened before this. It was like, I got home. It was like, I get home. I, like, go sit on the couch. And then I scroll, first thing I see on the scroll, first thing I see on the scroll is just like a dude being like, all right. I'm six weeks in to my 10 or six weeks into the five weeks of Benjamin Button.

And I remember immediately being like, oh my fucking God, dude, someone's ripping us off already. Someone's already fucking ripping us off. And I texted you guys and you guys were like, I can't fucking believe. Dude, we have to sue. Like, we were like getting, we were getting ready to take like legal action against this. Like, somebody ripped off the five weeks of Benjamin Buddy. Yeah. It was like he would do the five weeks of Benjamin.

Benjamin Button, but he incorporated it into his workout. It was like a strange thing where it's like he's doing workouts, but all he's talking about is Benjamin Button. And it was like fully like, I was like, like, a point in a dream where it was like I couldn't tell if it was real or not. Like, and I don't have those often. Yeah. I don't have those often, but I was fully like, oh my God, we're about to take legal action. And like you woke up with that feeling. I woke up and I was like, oh, I can't wait to like sue this guy.