Podcast About List - Ep. 388 - Curio #9: I guess he went to India? | The Five Weeks of Benjamin Button part 2

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Eraser. Interesting burp. Can we talk about how I'm the survival of an explosion for three minutes? Yes. Yeah, sure. I survived a massive explosion that almost wiped out my entire block last night. It almost wiped out your dog. It almost wiped out.
Starting point is 00:00:16 It probably would have annihilated this entire neighborhood if I had not called 911 about the explosion. Because it was one of many explosions. There were three explosions on the block. There was a bunch of explosions. And then I saw today, yeah, last night, I thought it was just the one right next to my house. But then I walked to the train this morning and there was like five manholes that were all open that people were working on. So apparently last night. There was a network of exploding floors.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Oh, my goodness. Just over and over and over again. We're living in the Zelda timeline. It was so scary, man. Yeah. But I survived. And in fact, I became, I would say I became wiser and more more. I'm more solid these days after that.
Starting point is 00:01:01 And we saw it on the subreddit for Ridgewood, and I let everyone know. I commented on the first post. You blamed me and now I'm going to get... No, I didn't blame you. He said, this is Caleb's explosion. Yeah, because you came to the bar and then someone else started talking about it. Someone else started talking about it. Someone else started talking about it.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And then we were like, oh yeah, that was Caleb's explosion. No, you said, hey, everybody. That's what I said on the... This is Caleb's explosion. Because you were the first witness. I was not the first witness there was hella Mexican guys outside
Starting point is 00:01:32 what? Yeah you made it sound like you were the first witness It wasn't my explosion Dude I didn't create it You made me look like a fucking jackass You made me look like a jackass on Reddit Called 911 and they said
Starting point is 00:01:45 This is unbelievable This is unprecedented for him Police ambulance or fire I said I think fire She said okay She patched me over to fire And a guy went You went into the radio.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I went into a McDonald's drive-thru, I realized later. I was speaking into a McDonald's drive-thru from one of the parody songs, a many parody songs. My name is Benjamin Bartner, and I was born under unusual circumstances. While everybody else was aging, I was getting younger, all alone.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I went to McDonald's the other day. and they have... Here we go. You better hurry up. Sorry. I know I'm dominating the opening three. Dude, you're wasting time by saying that.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I went and I didn't realize I have a voice that, a pretend voice that like an AI voice that welcomes you now every single time and asks you if you have the McDonald's app. Yeah. Pretty worth it. Keep going, man.
Starting point is 00:03:16 You got a little... You got 30 seconds. I got a bacon, egg and cheese McMuffin before I went and play it around the golf. You. And I met a new friend, this guy named Shin. You're a told him.
Starting point is 00:03:25 This is exactly the same thing you talked about last time. It's just horrible. This is horrible. This is off to a terrible. That's good. Okay. That's the end of the three. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Well, then let's just cut the three short. It's at 10. Cut the three. And then at three minutes, you're going to hear the tone. I fucking hate this thing, man. Yeah, it's okay. It's a little overdone. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Wait, you know what I haven't heard in a long time? It's quite too loud. I really hope that Benjamin Button was alive to hear that song. He definitely was not. I don't think he was. I would. I think he came out in 98. There's no way he was alive into 1998.
Starting point is 00:04:14 He did not live to 1998. And even if he did, there's no chance that he was cognizant of the song. I agree. Or had any opportunity to hear it. That would never come across his death. This would be the best. Horace Gump moment in the movie, right, where he is like, then I got my first computer and I made my first song.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And then they cut to him, he's got a MIDI keyboard. And he goes, Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I mean, I just want to, while we're talking about this, I just want to throw back to a, or like, I, okay, so in one of the earlier curios, he was like, he mentioned that woman whose name he couldn't remember and was like, this woman was the largest impact on my life.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah. And I was like, well, she taught him to play piano. Yeah. Which is like... Exactly. Which is like, oh, this has... Because obviously she made no other impact on his life. Well, she also tells him that the reason that people die is so we know that we need them.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And those are the two things that she does. And I assumed it had to be that he was going to play piano in a pivotal moment. He's not played piano one fucking time. He played it for a deaf woman. Exactly. It didn't matter. He only played it for a deaf woman. And is that the same curio that he learns piano? He plays it?
Starting point is 00:05:23 No, that was last curio. No, that was last curio. No, he leaves. So he learns the piano. He leaves for home, or he leaves for the tugboat. It's when he comes back for the first time and Queenie is like... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But in this one, in this one, no spoiler, she says,
Starting point is 00:05:37 I wish I could have taught you to play piano. So it's like, again, not even... It's barely a footnote on his life, and it could have been a more interesting thing if he was the main events of his life. I think this speaks to his boring and his emptiness as a man. Benjamin boring. Benjamin boring is that he, this is,
Starting point is 00:05:54 he would consider this to be one of the most important people in his most important people in his life who taught him something that doesn't actually matter. The size of his, the size of his, the size of his, the size of his, uh, stop saying the size of his, what's the word. Yeah. Why are you going for the size of his? The, what I'm saying? You almost let's let it again. The impact, the impact he has on the world is basically as big as a button. He's nothing. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. But a button could hold up a shirt. Okay. How big of an impact
Starting point is 00:06:20 does a huge person in history? Uh, you ain't ever heard of the button. fly effect, I guess. Yeah. Well, go ahead and lay that out for us. Basically. Say that now. Yeah. Even a Benjamin can cause a hurricane.
Starting point is 00:06:33 A Benjamin flaps his little legs. His flightless little legs. Button fly theory. Yep. He caused Hurricane Katrina. Because when he's very little, maybe he becomes. That's the biggest button I've ever seen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So that's the Benjamin sized button that is sitting in. No. No. Benjamin is not. I would say, I would say Benjamin, the button that Benjamin is, is the button on a button fly gene. okay and maybe that button there probably the guy who invented fire is the button on the button is the button on the button fly gene not the smallest yet mightiest button in existence though okay then
Starting point is 00:07:09 he's a yeah that's an important very important button that's on the tag of the shirt that's an extra yeah the spare you ain't got to go there that's crazy fuck you benjamin that is the most useless button you could have in unless unless you need it but then you just grab one out of the drawer. Or actually just hand it to your wife. She finds a button for it. Yep. And that's the type of button Benjamin is. Wow. Albert Einstein, probably this,
Starting point is 00:07:34 probably like the button on like a build a bear. That's a less important button. No. It's a big button at the store. You know the one, like their logo is like a button. What? Look at the build a bear button. There's a big button in the store. Y'all ain't been lately.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Y'all don't have nieces and nephews. It's been a couple years since I went to build a little. He's a nephew. Y'all don't know about this. I'm going to be completely honest with you. It's also just not where, where's the button, man? In the store. In the store.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Nah, man. You are insane. Build a bear button store. Build a bear button store? There's a fucking big button in there. I swear to God. I see a gear, yeah. I see a lot of gears.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I see a big bear. I swear to God, there's buttons involved in this fucking store. I don't see even any buttons on the bears to be honest. It's because of the inshittification of Build a bear, bro. I, I'm not seeing any buttons involved. Okay, maybe it's the fucking gear that I was thinking of. Hey, man. Are you okay?
Starting point is 00:08:32 No. Okay. This whole thing and this Benjamin in my life is ruining me mentally. You think that that affected you in this moment? Yes. Okay. I was dissing Benjamin so hard that it literally made me my brain reverse. It made my brain reverse back to the brain of a child.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I think even kids to know that there's not a button. Everybody knows there's no button in the binjured. Okay. I swear to God that there is buttons in that fucking store. Wait, build a bear. Benjuman. Dude. Workshop button. They're hiding it in plain sight.
Starting point is 00:09:04 It's so obvious. Well, not quite in plain sight. The button is not. If there's a button, it's hidden away. This is a button. The gear is a button of a cock. And they know, they know that they're, that beer, beer is a button of a cock.
Starting point is 00:09:20 No. No. You're sure. Beer puts my butt on a cock. Come on. Makes you get to have beer. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:32 But on. I haven't even got in the butt theory. Beer puts my butt on a cock. That's what I'm saying. If you got no legs, you'd end at the butt. Yep. Your butt on the ground. And you have no choice but to sit on some cock.
Starting point is 00:09:45 But on the ground. Sitting on. If it's the only thing available, you have no choice. No. It's the only seat you have. Yeah. Chris Cross Applesauce. You can't sit on a fucking on a pussy. You can, but it makes it smell.
Starting point is 00:09:58 But it's just not an option. Let's get into the Curio. Let's hit the recap. Let's get the recap. I can stop talking. We're in Curio 9. You almost hit that like soldier boy. Well, week one.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Week one. Day two. Part nine. Part nine. No, part two. Fuck my life. Benjamin. Curio.
Starting point is 00:10:25 That was a close one. Watch me, Button. Watch me. This one was... Guys, can I say something like really vulnerable? Yeah. I think I like this movie now.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yeah. Wow. I think this one I was like... Me too. I think this movie's good. I texted, I watched the curio immediately after eight, and I texted you guys,
Starting point is 00:10:44 and I said, guys, this is the best one. Just in general, I think this one, I don't think I liked this curio as a curio, but this made me like the whole movie, I think. Can I be also vulnerable? Yeah. I think Benjamin But, is easily in my top 10 films of all time.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah. At this point. I can see. I see I saw this happening. My like, my, like I feel like, I feel like David Fincher literally played us like a fiddle. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. I really feel like almost every complaint and like thing we had here, I was like, oh.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah. Oh. We're being cinema scenes. Yeah. Curio 9. We're back in the dance studio. Uh, where we had just ended. Daisy says, we're meeting in the middle.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Benjamin replies, we're finally caught up with each other. And they look in the mirror together because Benjamin wants them to remember how things are at this very moment. And in that very moment, Daisy confesses that she is pregnant. Yep. Wow. I didn't think it was going to happen so soon. No, especially because we spent so much time talking about it last time. Yeah, it was really literally right around the corner.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It was, and another, like, victory of the Curio system. Absolutely. Like the fact that, the fact that, like, this one is insanely encapsulated. I feel like. Yeah. That it starts with her being pregnant and then it's just the whole story of that is crazy. And I thought about it and it just is, it's like, well, no, actually, you know what I'm like, I will save it for Curio 10, what I was about to say. But Benjamin and Daisy ride the streetcar together as Benjamin and O.T. once did so long ago.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Yeah. Only now, instead of O.T. scaring children, it is Benjamin being scared of children. Whoa. Having one. Yes. In specifically. That's good. Daisy says she thinks it's going to be a girl and she can tell that Benjamin is afraid.
Starting point is 00:12:29 He says he's not hiding it. He's worried, guys. They go to a burger restaurant and over dessert. Daisy's having some ice cream. It looks like Benjamin had some pie or a brown cookie. Benjamin says his worst fear is that the baby will be born like him. He says, baby born like me. He says, what's your worst fear?
Starting point is 00:12:51 Baby being born like me. Baby being born like me. Loining had a boy. There was a really good loining moment here that I wrote down. It was, it was foist boy day. Foist boy, day. Oh my. It was your foist boyth day.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It was your foist birthday. Foist birthday. A little bit of a spoiler, I guess. It's funny that I keep saying that and it's like, it's in this episode. Yeah, but it's not really a spurler. But I mean, I think that we are playing with time so much here. Oh, absolutely. That we are only.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I'm terrified of. revealing. I want to tell the story. I want to give the listeners the experience of the story. 100%. So I'm just forget that I said voice boy's day. Yeah. I never said that. Benjamin says his worst fears the baby will be born like him. Daisy says she'd love it all the more. That's fucking sweet. I mean, that's not. That is cute. Yeah. That's nice. That's romantic. I mean, yeah, if you're a, if you're a woman having an old baby is like something to like brag about. Yeah, because you're going to think it's the cutest thing. ever no matter what.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Yeah. So if you have an ugly one, then your power becomes greater. Yeah. Because you believe that it's beautiful. Yeah. Despite its wrinklings. You lie.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You mean you have immense mental power to lie to yourself if you have an ugly baby. Then Benjamin starts to worry he'll become too young to be a good father. That's probably true. And then this line interesting, Daisy asks if Benjamin would tell a blind man he couldn't have children. is that not what kicked off this entire story? Wow. A blind man losing his child. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:30 That's a really good point. That is a good point. And I don't really know what that means in all the theories, but it's worth thinking about. Is there a reason we feel like that Mr. Gatto had to be blind? Yeah. It's so for this line. For this line.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Because I'm thinking, I'm like, the blindness... Well, it really just justifies the glasses that he's wearing. The blind... It is funny because the blindness actually, like, makes the opening, like, that like vignette, I think the blindness makes it weaker because it is like, oh, he made the clock like that on accident. Yes. That actually is, like, is it just, I think it truly is just a detail of like, oh, it's crazy that there is a blind clockmaker. I think blindness is a really easy way to make somebody seem mystical in a movie.
Starting point is 00:15:15 It's like, there's blind, so they must have magic. The only thing that would have made. It's got to be some kind of TV tropes page. The only thing that would have made him more mystical is if he had milky eyes instead of glasses. Well, I'm sure he does behind the class. I bet he's got some milkers. Some big-ass milkers. Some big ass milkers.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I bet he does. But yeah, that was something I caught on in a second watch. I went, wait a second. A blind man with no children. That's a good catch. And it was thanks to his wish that Benjamin was born the way he was. Also, I just think it is funny to come. compare Benjamin's affliction to being blind.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Being blind, I think is... They're very different. Much more difficult. Yeah. Yeah, with his affliction, you really have... It's basically... You have like 10 hard years on either end. It's basically the same as being born ugly, I would say, his affliction.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Like, he doesn't seem to have any actual long-term health complications. He definitely had, like, a bad childhood. He had glaucoma as a baby. Yeah, like, I think he had some health issues as a child, but they always... go away. Yeah. So it's almost like, I don't know. I mean, I guess that's the point of the movie.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It's weird. We never see. I guess it kind of makes you a baby longer. We never see like four year old Ben. Yeah, we do. Do we? Yeah. I think we see like seven years.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Oh, no, they skip to seven. Yeah, we go to, I think he's probably like four when he's playing with the fork. Oh, yeah. That's kind of my imagination of it. But he doesn't change much in his look, just size. No, yeah. And he doesn't change much in his attitude either. No.
Starting point is 00:16:48 From then on. That's the thing about him that is, uh, makes him very strange is that he grew up around all these old people thinking he was old. So now he's just permanently an old man. Yeah. He's like, like, you know when you meet like a little kid and it's like, oh, you were an old soul? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:05 He's permanently that. Yeah. He's just always like, I don't think even as a teenager or anything like that, he was not like, you know, being a rabble rouser. I guess he was. He was having sex with prostitutes. Yeah, I think it kind of was. That's something an old man would do.
Starting point is 00:17:19 That's something an old man will love to do. I don't know. I agree. That's an old soul behavior. I feel like he was being very childish for almost his entire life until very, very recently. And now, I mean, I don't want to spoil anything.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah. Yeah. Then Daisy says that she loves Benjamin and says that she has to go pee. And she goes to go pee. Then on TV, Elizabeth Abbott, Tilda Swinton, if you've forgotten that she was in this movie.
Starting point is 00:17:50 She is now older. And she is on TV because she has just become the oldest woman to swim the English channel at age 68. She tells the interviewer, I suppose, anything's possible? And then smiles at the camera and then Benjamin smiles and he and Daisy leave the restaurant. Yeah. If I'm Benjamin and this is Daisy, you have now been, we've been together 15 years, 20 years, somewhere like that. I'm going to. I look at the TV going, I fucked her.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I would tell her that story. See that old lady? It's a crazy story. Like, how have you not, how does that never come up in all this time that you guys are eating Chinese food? It's also like, I just don't like, like, like, what, like, I don't get the significance of this, I think. Yeah. Like, after, like, I think it's just closure on that story. She's saying anything is possible.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And I guess the thing that, like, is, I think it's alluding to the fact that Benjamin is having a child. Yeah, of course. Well, this is the thing that I think makes Benjamin excited to have a child is that here's the, he hears the, he hears. the words anything is possible and he goes Oh yeah That was the first time anyone said that Was her then Do you think that if Benjamin Button
Starting point is 00:18:58 Had a child with Like a woman who didn't age and reverse Do you think the baby will come out middle aged? I don't think so Because nothing happened I mean spoiler What if he had a child with a really old lady? Yeah then I think it would come out middle aged
Starting point is 00:19:13 I don't think so I think his thing was a one-time wish And I think I mean again I think that I was hoping for some kind of subversion here where maybe the, instead of Daisy giving birth to the baby somehow, Benjamin lays an egg or something as a reveal. The baby gives birth to her.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, something like that. Something where like she turns completely inside out. And then I lost Daisy forever. There's still time. There is still time. True. One day, Benjamin is, this is, I thought it was funny. Benjamin is, like, he doesn't have a job.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah. He's as rich as fuck. He doesn't do anything. he's getting the keys and he's like, all right, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going going, I'm going, I'm heading out, I'll be back in a while. It's like, bro, where are you going? I just want to know what his plans were that day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:00 He's just going to ride around on his motorcycle, I guess. Yeah, he doesn't have like doctor's appointments. He's young now. Yeah. He's probably going to do graffiti or something. Yeah, like, well, I just want to know what is going on. Yeah, he's walking through Allie's going, doing this, doing graffiti. He's my tag.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah. I'm sorry to offend anybody. I hope you enjoy my day. Can I say real quick, I've softened on his accent because last night I watched an episode of True Detective where they had a guy who was like a crab fisherman who's supposed to be like his Creole guy. And the dude is going like,
Starting point is 00:20:32 but he went that way. He like is switching in and out of it. And so I have to commend Benjamin Button, aka Bradley Pitt, for just staying in it. For sticking to it. He apparently based the accent off a real guy. Benjamin works in film in Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:20:53 This is something. It's a reply I saw on Twitter. The accent still gets me. I still am like, this is ridiculous. I think what makes it worse for me is just that it was not supposed to be in New Orleans. Just that it was like a late,
Starting point is 00:21:04 like a tax credit thing. They're like, okay, now everyone has to do this accent for the whole movie because I'm actually so glad it didn't happen to Maryland. That'd be so awesome. That would have been awesome. That would have made a crazier movie.
Starting point is 00:21:18 That's what they said. say to you. Benjamin's leaving the house to go, God knows where. When he hears a thump and he hears Daisy cry out, he runs down the hallway and Daisy is lying at the bottom of the stairs covered in blood. She says the baby is gone. This was like way too fast in my opinion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And also, sorry, continue. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm a trusting guy. Yeah. I thought, my God, the baby's gone. Me too. Holy fuck. She also didn't look so pregnant that you would be able to.
Starting point is 00:21:51 have the baby. No, no. Then Benjamin calls an ambulance, paces through the house as we hear Daisy's pained moans, which I realized to the following scene, what was actually going on here, but it really seemed like he left her at the bottom of the stairs and was walking back and forth waiting for the ambulance to come and she was just going, oh! It was crazy to me that he even stopped at the top of the stairs to begin with instead of running down to help his wife, his wife, who was blood.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I don't know if they ever got married. Yeah, oh yeah. Well, you know, I just realized that right. I don't think, second. There's no way they got married. They were never married. No, so there's a bastard child. This child is cursed. She is a cursed bastard. She brought the her cat.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Daisy, these pain moans are because Daisy has been in the bedroom giving birth to a beautiful and healthy baby girl with the help of the EMTs, a home birth. Home birth. That is so insane for a woman to fall down the stairs and then the EMTs show up and they
Starting point is 00:22:47 instead of putting her in the ambulance, they do it in the bed. Like the EMTs. Well, might as well. Not doctors. No, the people whose job it is to wipe the poop off of you before they put you in an 18-month course. No offense to EMTs. Yeah, I love EMTs. Yeah, I'm just like a huge fucking fan of what you do.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I mean, let's give it up for them real quick. I mean, you all just like, I'm so glad that you do what you do and thank you for being adrenaline junkies in the way that you are. Love it. And it's just like a normal thing to do with your life. Benjamin asks if oh so the baby girl starts sucking on Daisy's pinky
Starting point is 00:23:26 and then Benjamin asked if Daisy counted the baby's toes and then they named the baby Caroline I'm curious The baby's name is Caroline And it's making me think
Starting point is 00:23:44 What if this is the same one From the hospital? I don't think so Listen to this guys You are a different child You are the same child. You are the same child. You are the same child.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I understand that. Back in the hospital, Caroline has finally, her big realization, he says, this Benjamin was my father and this is how you tell me, which is totally fair. Really fair. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Insane way to go about it. Yeah. Daisy looks back just completely in silence. Caroline walks out into the hall of the hospital and lights a cigarette. Kind of crazy thing to do, I feel like... 2005 that you weren't allowed to do that.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I feel like it was only a couple years. after though, yeah. Maybe. I feel like the hospital's down there. But a hospital. They have like oxygen. It's like old people are dying. Yeah. It's not like even if you could smoke in a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Louisiana. That's true. In Louisiana, all the hospitals are like casinos and you can smoke in them in designated sections. A slot machine down there too. A nurse who is eating an apple tells her she can't smoke in there. Caroline returns to her mom's room. Old Daisy.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Wordlessly requests Caroline keep reading by hitting the table with her hand like this. she doesn't say anything and Caroline just goes and then keeps reading the diary is now addressing Caroline directly the backwards dad the backwards dad
Starting point is 00:25:01 you grew as a doctor promised is what Benjamin says Benjamin tells Daisy in the story that she'll need to find Caroline a real father because Caroline needs a dad
Starting point is 00:25:10 not a playmate and Daisy can't raise the both of them at Caroline's foist boy's tape party a man tells Benjamin that before he knows it Caroline will be in high school and dating.
Starting point is 00:25:23 After the party, Daisy looks out of the window at Benjamin sitting on the curb, holding Caroline, letting a yellow balloon fly up into the sky. Benjamin sells Thomas Button's summer house. He sells buttons, buttons, and he sells the sailboat, and he puts all the money into a savings account. In the middle of the night, he leaves a key on the bedside table, and after making silent eye contact with Daisy, who has woken up, leaves without a word riding his motorcycle into the night with nothing Put the clothes on his back. This is so crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yeah. Because at first, I have to say this. And, I mean, especially with what's coming up, at first, I was like, fuck you, man. And I still kind of am a little bit. Yeah. But I was thinking about it as like he, his, he was abandoned by two sets of parents. I feel like he does not have the tools to understand why this is a fucked up thing to do. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You know what I mean? That's kind of what. At this point, I landed on like, oh, you know what? This kind of happened to him two times already. Yeah. Like that's kind of crazy. People get fucked up from less than that. That's true.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I don't know. And but I was just like... So you're you have some Benjamin apologetics. I think so. I think I've eased up on... Now, I still think he should have stuck around. Yeah. Do you still think he's a bloodthirsty killer who you're surprised he didn't immediately eat his
Starting point is 00:26:42 bond on birth? I actually have a few theories about that that we can get to after the recap, I feel like. Because I think that the blood on her, you know what, when she falls down the state, There's an amazing edition of vampire theory. There's a few good editions of vampire theory here, I think. But yeah, so in the hospital, Caroline stops reading. She asks Daisy, she's like, I don't want to read this anymore. Just tell me where he went.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And old Daisy's like, I don't really know. And then turning the page, Caroline finds a bundle of postcards all from Benjamin addressed to her, starting from her second birthday in 1970, all the way up to her 13th birthday in 1981. she's reading the postcards. They're all addressed to her. One of them says, I wish I, this is what Caroline says,
Starting point is 00:27:24 I wish I could have been your father. Nothing I ever did will replace that. I guess he went to India. And then we get a montage of Benjamin living in India. Yeah. This is interesting. Wearing a wrap on his head and doing his laundry in the river
Starting point is 00:27:38 with all the Indian people and living his life as an Indian guy. This was a little out of place. Oh yeah. And then there's an over, like I guess a letter that he wrote to her that's kind of overlaid. his voiceovers
Starting point is 00:27:50 overlaid and it's a bunch of stuff about you know I hope you have a good life I hope this he says I hope you I hope you see things
Starting point is 00:27:57 that startle you which I also thought was a funny thing for him to say and a good addition to vampire theory oh yeah yeah I hope you see things
Starting point is 00:28:04 that should that will start you know also during this montage I just had to note you know I definitely am softening on him a little bit
Starting point is 00:28:11 and I'm thinking more about his circumstances but he does look extremely fit very healthy not all that young and definitely very capable
Starting point is 00:28:18 of raising a child. Yeah, he at least had a call. He at least had 10 more years in him. He certainly had a childhood. Yeah, yeah. Left in him. Yeah, but then he would abandon the child when the child's like 10
Starting point is 00:28:29 and the child's going to remember that. And like, yeah, but it's like, I don't know. I mean, that's the question, isn't it? Yeah. Well, you don't have to. That was, that was in his intention.
Starting point is 00:28:38 When you say abandon the child when he's 10, he's not going to be eight years old and then go to India. No, no, no, no. It kind of seems like he was like, I'd rather, when the child goes.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I agree with that. I agree with that. It seems like he's like, because he's not even sticking around to like. And also, you know, another thing is like, I, like, it's, I feel like it's also very presumptuous to like sell all that stuff. Yeah. Like, just let them do whatever they want with it. I sold everything that we've owned jointly. I gave you a big wad of cash.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Here's a bunch of money and here's a key. I think another theory I have here is that he's getting to a place where he's so. strikingly, it's so easy to identify that he can't kill in America anymore. He would be known, I mean, it'd be the easy
Starting point is 00:29:27 he's gonna catch him. The guy who fucking looks like Brad Pitt is going around killing people and biting their necks. I'm gonna go to India that is like India in the 70s
Starting point is 00:29:37 and I'm gonna go kill people there and wash the blood off of my clothes on the river. He's doing the, what was it? You know, when like the rich people would go to like Serbia
Starting point is 00:29:46 and they would go on human safaris. I don't know about this Yeah they've been like suing recently Yeah yeah because there was like In some Some
Starting point is 00:29:58 Some country like that There was some civil strife And during the war there was like American and like British tourists Who were like millionaires Who they would come and they would just shoot Yeah they would do a human safari
Starting point is 00:30:12 That's crazy That's what Benjamin is doing Yeah I could see that I mean he seems to also well In India seems to be on the move extremely. I don't know if it's just... He's on his little bike. He's on a little motorcycle, yeah. A little mophead type thing. But also one of the postcards that Caroline takes out, like, and I think it's the second one. So I think she's like three. When she was three, I think he was in Australia
Starting point is 00:30:32 because it's a postcard with a koala bear on it. I don't think they have koala bears in India. Or it could just be a fun sticker he found. Yeah, I mean, it's a postcard. It could have been like an Australia themed store. Like store in India. But I was like, this was a point where I was like, I wish I was like a Geo guesser genius and I could tell at the very least if all of this was supposed to be India. Because there are a bunch of like landscape shots that I was like
Starting point is 00:30:55 is this like, one of them I was like no, he's in Nepal. I know I thought it was like Nepal or like Peru or something. It's kind of hard to tell. So let's be clear he did not put all that money in that savings again. No, no, no, no. He's buying fucking cross country, across the ocean
Starting point is 00:31:11 plane tickets in 1977. Maybe he's in like, maybe he's still in the tugboat union. You think he caught it. You think he caught tugboat. He maybe was picking up some jobs on a deadhead seat on a tugboat. Uh-huh. I mean, just definitely weakens. I was definitely, and I still am definitely softening up on him a little bit from this curio, but this definitely puts a wrench in that a little bit. This India sequence of him like going, just having fun in India is kind of, it's just like... Not even really having that much fun. It doesn't... No, I mean, but he's like exploring and like living his life. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:31:44 I don't know, I kind of feel like if you're like abandoning your family like that, you should just like send yourself to prison or something. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Go doing a crime that would maybe better them. Or at the very least, you shouldn't like let anybody find out that you were doing that. You should be like I was living in a basement and I was eating. You should be, he should be a monk. He should be a Buddhist monk.
Starting point is 00:32:05 He should have been a monk. He should have done something that demonstrates. Like there is some, I guess, like asceticism to like going to India and like just like riding your bike around and it seems like not making any lasting connections, but who knows. But also, he had gone to a. to a temple somewhere in China and been like, hey guys, I want to be a monk, but also I age backwards. Yeah. They would have taken care of them. They would have gotten right. They would have figured it out. They would have been like, oh, right. Like this guy. You just could have cooled
Starting point is 00:32:31 there. It's just another guy there. Oh, you're exactly like this guy. You're like Aaron. It's just not enough repentance for me. Yeah. I agree. This sequence is 13 years. Yeah, 13 years. 12 years, I guess. And if you're going to do it, take a gap year. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he does. Wow, that's true. No, no, I mean, take a, like, do that trip as a gap year. Oh, okay, he does the reverse. He takes the trip and he does a gap year.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah, he does a gap year of 12. Because if you notice that the coming up, that part is actually in between the postcards. Oh. Because I thought, the first you watched through, I was like, in the postcard when she's 13, he writes like, I wish I was there to tell you not to chase after a boy and have your heart broken. And I was like, that's crazy. Why would you like? Yeah, pretty generic advice.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah, like, and but like generic, kind of generic, but also like, also strangely specific, I guess. Like, why would you just assume that that had had, that she had chased after a boy? Yeah. But what if your kid grew up reversed straight. But that postcard is after, after what's coming up, which it takes place when Caroline was 12. So he had to go check to see if she was straight. Yeah, he was going to exactly. He was like, I got to go see what's up.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And then I can write my last postcard for me. I may be an old baby, but I can't have no gay daughter. If he had pulled up and she's got the polo sweatshirt on with the bear and some on a wallet chain. Yeah. God damn. God fucking damage. I failed as a father. She toined gay. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I may have aged in reverse, but I don't understand any of that. I cannot condone his behavior. Well, we've already seen at the dancer's party that he does not understand or gay people. It's true. No. He gave that gay man a scowl. Yeah. They don't have gaiiness on his planet.
Starting point is 00:34:16 No, no. So this montage happens. Then old Daisy says, he had been gone a long time. And we jump back into the past. One evening, Daisy is finishing up a dance class. She's starting to look older,
Starting point is 00:34:30 but she's still Kate Blanchett. A mysterious figure enters through the front door shrouded in shadow. And she's like, oh, we're just closing, sorry. Classic. This freaked me out. I was like, who the fuck is that? It's a murderer.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Just the guy just caught in the shooots her head. Hambert. I grew my legs back in. I have robotic legs. Hambert, is that you? Oh dear. A man I've never met. Or heard of know about.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Never met or even hoit about. But you got to be handboy. You're right. I am handboy. Benjamin's adoptive mom used to be sweet on you. They call me Ham Bot now. In 1918, they call me Ham Bot. I am Ham Bot. He just airs out the fucking dance studio.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And that's when I had to create a gun to kill Ham Boy. So I said Ham Bot to do my dirty business for me. She's like, oh, we're just closing. Sorry. The figure approaches. It's Benjamin looking completely de-aged and young. Looking like this. The way my jaw hit.
Starting point is 00:35:41 the fucking my cock. Yeah. It was... Your jaw hit your cocks. He's trying to suck it. He saw young Brad Pitt try to go auto. Otto. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:35:51 That's what happened. No, I was just in shock. You saw young Brad Pitt in this movie and you went, oh my God. Okay, I guess my jaw hit my cock does make it sound like I was sucking. See, he's the hot guy. And this fucking broke of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Young, young, young Brad Pitt coming out of the shadows just to be neat. like, oh. The scary, like, CGI version of him too. Oh, my God. I got to suck my own cock about this. This was also one where the first watch through, I was like,
Starting point is 00:36:23 oh, he looks like normal. And then each watch through after I just got more and more scared of how he looked. It looks like, do you remember with the old face app when you would just put filters over and over and over again on your face? And it would just completely soften, like every feature you have? They made his eyes bigger, I think, to make him look younger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I think they like messed up the proportions. So like I feel like his pupils are too big. And he doesn't have enough whites in his eyes. He's always looking around like this. Yeah. It's very creepy looking. Oh, Daisy starts to tear up. She's like, why did you come back?
Starting point is 00:37:00 Then young Caroline comes in. Daisy introduces Benjamin to her as an old friend who Caroline knew as a baby. Caroline, this is Benjamin. They shake hands. Then Daisy's new husband. enters. His name is Robert. Robert takes Caroline to the car leaving Daisy and Benjamin alone.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Now in this scene all the Benjamin says he says hi to Caroline and then Robert comes in and to Robert all that Benjamin says is pleasure. Pleasure. Pleasure. Pleasure. And Robert instantly
Starting point is 00:37:33 becomes quite uncomfortable and leaves with Caroline. I don't blame him. I thought this was a very good moment for evidence of Benjamin's dark, dark aura. And also a piece of support for your centibite theory, which was honestly completely unfounded. But now has a little bit of...
Starting point is 00:37:50 Now has one word. It has one word for it. But just him just saying, pleasure. And the brass button will arrive soon. Just you wait. Curio 10, a brass button is going to show up the end of the movie. I think that this guy, Robert...
Starting point is 00:38:05 Am I making this up or did she say something about how he had other kids? Yeah, he was a widow. I don't think he had other kids, but he was a widower. Who's a widower? He's a widower, and all of his kids died in a fiery button factory explosion.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You're just always making things up, I know. I'm making my own movie. Okay, he didn't have other kids. I was just sure. I don't think they mentioned that. On the off chance they did, I just thought it would be strange
Starting point is 00:38:26 for those kids to be told that this was their biological sister. I don't think, yeah, I don't think, because I think that if there were other kids, again, I mean, and also, again, it's like, now that Robert has been revealed, I am like,
Starting point is 00:38:41 where's Robert in 2005? Yeah. Oh yeah. Probably dead. Probably dead. Or he's a storm chaser. He doesn't seem that old and it's got, this has got to be...
Starting point is 00:38:49 This movie has an epidemic of people dying at the age of like 50. This is got to be 1983. Tilda Swinton was 68 when she, in the swimming scene. Yeah. So, but she was like, like, so that, and she was like... I guess 40.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah. Yeah. I guess maybe, yeah. But it's, she seemed like she was older than me. She seemed like she was like 70 back then. offense. That would put her in her 30s back then. She did not seem like she was there. No, definitely not.
Starting point is 00:39:16 No. Definitely not. Because she even is like, to Benjamin, she's like, you make me feel younger again. And it's like. Like you're 25? Yeah. I think that I would have liked to see, you know, with a lot of the attention of detail in this movie, as we're getting to the end of it, I would have liked to see some closer attention to detail on just like the mechanics of age. Because it seems like there's one thing you're going to really beat out and like get right.
Starting point is 00:39:39 It's like, yeah, like stuff like Tis is about. Yeah. Like stuff like Tizzy dying in his sleep at like 50 or 60 or over old he was. Queenie turning from sort of normal age woman to an extremely old raisin in like four years. Yeah. Things like this. And you know what? I mean, maybe we can do a whole segment about this here on this episode.
Starting point is 00:40:01 But if we're predicting endings, I'd like to throw in another button into the pile. And I'd like to predict. Mr. Dawes showing up in 2005 and kind of giving a knowing look and saying, you know, maybe even getting struck by lightning or something. He's going to be 150 years old. But no, he's going to look the same and it's going to be like a mysterious. Oh, I thought about that too where he didn't age it.
Starting point is 00:40:22 No, yeah. He didn't age as touch. He has not aged at all. He was in that fucking home for like 25 years. Exactly. And I think that one is more knowing. Like I think some of the other age ones are just like, oh, we're just, this is just how it's shaking out. Because also he owes us two lightning bolts.
Starting point is 00:40:35 He does. I know. That's what I was thinking about. And we don't have much time left. I'm going to be honest. I don't think we're getting the second two. That would be so... I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:40:45 If that's what happens, that's insane. Yeah, it is fucked up. What's the point of this guy? And why did he give two on the first time? Right. If we weren't even going to make it to seven. Yep. Seven.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Just give us the one. It's just, it's kind of crazy. Seven. Seven. Seven. That one was close. Seven. But I look a lot older.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Benjamin says Caroline is beautiful like her mother and asks if she dances. Daisy says she doesn't dance so well. Benjamin says that must be his jeans. But we saw him dance in that apartment building. We did. He had some moves. He had a couple moves.
Starting point is 00:41:19 He was doing the twist and shout dance. Daisy tells Benjamin... He was doing the twist. Yeah. Shelby Checker reference. Daisy tells Benjamin that Robert has been a great father. She also is like he's bright, he's adventurous. It does seem like...
Starting point is 00:41:33 It seems like she's pretty bitter, which like... Fair. It is completely fair. And I would be a lot more bitter than she was, I think, if it was me. Especially when I saw him and it's like, oh, you're like, hey, buddy, you're like 19. Yeah, you're barely legal.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah. They still would have been fine. It's still okay. Yeah. 13 years in, probably would be okay. It really feels like more than anything, just truly an issue of optics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Of neighbors being like, oh, her husband is 19 years old. Yeah. That seems more than any, like, and to not be willing to brave that for the sake of your family is like, his old life is an issue of optics, though. and he seems like he's dealt with it pretty well so far. I am surprised by how much this movie seems to deal in that, and play in that world of optics and being like,
Starting point is 00:42:18 is it, it's okay for us? Like, how much it is actually doing like age gap, like discourse stuff? Is it okay for a guy who's 26 but looks 60 to have sex with a 23 year old woman? No, no. They have to wait until they... In the middle.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Yeah. That's okay. It's okay for them to do that a lot. I would have really loved for them to have stayed together and then she gets arrested as the end. Yeah, she kisses a 12-year-old. Yeah. That would have been a great ending. I think it would have been the best part of the movie that stayed together and she was gradually.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Have you ever seen the movie The Incredible Shrinking Man? No. This is an incredible movie that is basically about this. Oh, I've seen clips where she takes care of it. She gives them a dollhouse. Yeah, yeah. It's a guy who gets. exposed to
Starting point is 00:43:09 like a radioactive mysterious chemical and he begins to just shrink and it's just about him gradually feeling like emasculated and like how he can't really
Starting point is 00:43:19 yeah it's awesome you have a it is I was about to I was about to get mad at you for laughing at that because the special effects are so fire
Starting point is 00:43:28 I know I know dude in the 50s making that that's so fucking awesome I highly highly recommend this I think it's maybe actually from the 60s no it's got to be from the 50s yeah
Starting point is 00:43:37 I really, but anyway, that, that, like, it literally is about what this period of their life would be. Is the cat the main villain? I mean, I don't know if I call it the main villain. I definitely would call it. Well, yeah, that's... Sure, man. I mean, I still don't know if I would call it cat the main villain. It looks like the main villain here.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's framing it. I mean, he fights, he shrinks and he fights a spider. He fights a cat. It's really mostly about his, him being like, fuck my life. He fights at Chrome. It's really mostly, it's really mostly. an emotional movie. Which is why I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:09 it's doable. And this is almost, this is a more interesting version. It would have been sweet for them to have her. Because also, when you're 90 years old, you're not fucking. No. Take care.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Having, getting young and you're taking care of him as he turns into a baby and whatever. You don't have to kiss him. Yeah, I feel like it's just him leaving for this is like a hand wave. It's like,
Starting point is 00:44:34 in a fucking like three hour movie where nothing interesting happens for at least an hour's worth of runtime. An hour of it should have been the story of him, of them staying married and raising a child while he gets younger. Absolutely. I would rather watch a movie
Starting point is 00:44:49 that was just that part of his life. Yeah, definitely, definitely. That alone would be a good movie. Yeah, cut this into a 90-minute movie where it's just the first part where it's like, oh, he's an old child, then it's like, then nothing happened in my life. And then I had a daughter.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Yeah, I mean, no, you could literally start with the daughter. Yeah, I agree. And make them a full, I mean, a better movie than all of this movie in just in the part that they cut out here. Prestige horror movie and the daughters, from the daughter's perspective, she's like, I think my dad's getting younger. That would be a good trailer line. I think I don't know how to say this, but I think my dad's getting younger. Yeah, him playing with a baby crawling down the hallway towards the camera. A baby grounding her.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Grounded by a baby. Grounded. grounded by a baby That would be cool Giroimo del Toro's That would be so sick If it was Giro This would be a James Wan
Starting point is 00:45:45 She's fight Yes it should be a Blum House They're like fighting over toys and shit Yeah That would be cool I want the toy What happens What happens when your father is a baby
Starting point is 00:45:55 Mom dad Dad stole my toy That would be a way better The cooler thing Yeah But that's just that's like a downsizing trailer actually Baby Dad
Starting point is 00:46:06 baby dad baby dad oh Daisy Daisy says to Benjamin you are so much younger Benjamin replies only on the outside
Starting point is 00:46:18 which is finally an acknowledgement that his mind does not become younger and I was thinking about I was like
Starting point is 00:46:25 what if actually the way the reason that he's been acting like this is because his mind did get younger and he does not realizing
Starting point is 00:46:32 it because I don't have the capacity to realize it but that's why he's making poor decisions His mind has to get younger. His brain is going to shrink. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:39 But he's apparently, and that's still like, don't you think when you've been away, like he was away for 12 years? After like at two years, I mean like, oh, I'm getting younger, but I'm still fine. Come back. Come back. Come back. Come back. Come back. Come back, Benjamin.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Daisy says that Benjamin, Daisy says that Benjamin was right to leave and that she couldn't have raised both of them because she was not strong enough. Which I think this is just a spiteful. I agree. I think she doesn't really believe this. You're rich. Bro, she is coping. Yeah. A nanny.
Starting point is 00:47:08 No, I think she's trying to like hurt Benjamin by saying that. Because I think she can tell that he regrets it. Yeah. And she's trying to go. You better, bitch. Yeah, yeah. You better regret that shit, bitch. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:19 She asks where Benjamin is staying. He's staying in a hotel on the avenue. God, New Orleans. On the avenue. On the avenue. They leave the dance studio. Benjamin watches youngly as Daisy's family pulls away. A car.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Pannell fucking car. Yeah, cool. This car, I was like, oh, fuck yeah, dude. This is the, like, best car ever. I was thinking about how crazy it is that you can be born in 1918 and then you can be in a burger restaurant. Yeah. Eating an ice cream.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Eating a simple burger and an ice cream. Time is magical. Mm-hmm. And the burger, like the American hamburger, right? This was invented around that time, like when he was born. I think it was invented in, like, the 1880s or so. I don't think so. No, I think it was, there's a restaurant in Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:48:03 where it's like the first burger. But no, it's heavily disputed. And it's late 1800s. I'm talking American hamburger. Yeah. I think it's a New York. German immigrants brought it to New York in the late. Guys, I've researched this in great detail. I was going to say, he's probably.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Late 19th century. I'm not buying it at all. That's AI. Yeah, it is a nation. Open that back up right there. Wait, that was what you were saying. 1885. That's the late 18th century.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Oh, yeah. 1916. I was doing, I was not. Anderson Sand. You were right. Late 19. Confusion.
Starting point is 00:48:37 You thought I said meant the 1990s? Honestly, late 19th century, yeah, I did think that. It said 1916 on the Wikipedia. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:46 I think it's, but I think the like, the classic burger. That maybe is when they named it. Yeah. I'm just saying Benjamin's as old as the hamburger. I think he's younger than my American mind.
Starting point is 00:48:56 He's younger than the hamburger. Can I say this scene? This scene made me realize that, okay, so he's, she's born in what? 1970. She's six years.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Or no, wait, Caroline. Caroline was born in 1973, right? No, 1969. Or 1968. 968. Okay, so this is 71. Either 68 or 69.
Starting point is 00:49:20 This is 71. No, no, this. She's 12. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is 81. Okay. The first entry is in 1985, the, like, intro.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Uh-huh. At that point, he says, I'm putting this out because I feel like I'm getting so young. I don't know what's happening. I don't know if I'll ever be able to do this again. That is insane to me that he can go in four years from where he is right now to being at a point where he's worried about his faculties. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I'm wondering if they're just using a light touch on the CGI and he's supposed to be like 14. Maybe. It's making me think that he's going to at least see the night. He's seeing Nirvana. Yeah. And I mean, hold on. Let me look up something real quick. What else he saw in the 90s?
Starting point is 00:50:01 No, no, no, no. I'm going to fully leave you here and go get a water bottle. Kern. You're just going to be completely alone for like 10 seconds. Current by Zombie Nation came out in 1999. So, depending on how long Benjamin lived, right? Benjamin could have heard Kern Craft Zombie Nation. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:50:24 We don't know how long he lived. Maybe he lived until like. Yeah, we don't. No, but okay, if he is, but if he's saying, that and he's just being crazy. He could live 14 more years? 14 more years after not being able to write his story. It's possible.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Yeah. I don't, I strongly doubt. It's not that he could write his stories. He worried. It's possible. I agree it's possible because of a very little baby. I think we can all agree that Benjamin has at least heard popcorn by hot butter. You start writing it when you're like five.
Starting point is 00:50:57 But there's no way he goes from where he is now to five. But I think he's going. I think he's basically going to. He's heard popcorn. You know what? I think he's probably, I think when he writes it, I think in 19. I think here he's supposed to be, I think it's 191. I think he's supposed to be like 14. And I think they're just like, they're like afraid of the CGI.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I think he's supposed to be 16. Okay. Let's say that. And then I think in like, I think he's going to start realizing he's losing his writing abilities when he's like, let's see if it's 95, that would make him like 12. I mean, I would say that would probably happen around 10. But I still don't think he's going 14 years. I think he's going to, I think he's going to die.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I think he's going to shrink away and die. Can we guess? Can we, can we, can we each make? make a guess on date of death. Yeah. If we see, I mean, I honestly, I honestly predict. I predict he, we're not going to see it. I think what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:51:43 The last shot is either going to be him as a baby or, not the like the last shot, but the last shot of him. A baby or like a little kid and he's like fading away into a crowd. And he's going to be like left. He's going to be like somewhere and it's going to be like we're going to be like, we're going to be. And I think I think I would, I think I would say maybe like he's like to heaven or eight. I mean, like a year in the world.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I could see, I could see that. Him like, him like saying goodbye to somebody to like Daisy or something. And then he like is like, he like walks away and that we don't ever see him as a baby at all. That could be one possibility. But I definitely would like to see him as a baby. I feel like if they don't show him as a baby. As a full infant. They fucked it.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Definitely. I totally agree. I think that I think that he's going to live to be at least 100. There's no chance. Because the entire point of the movie. I feel like is to have a scene. Until 2018. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:37 90. Still. Or no, 80. Sorry. At least. Okay. You know what? Then I think he's going to live to 85.
Starting point is 00:52:44 No, he's living in like 60, 60 something. He's living to like 65. He's already past 65 if he's. Well, he started out as a baby when he's in his 80s. I guess he's 65. He's around 65 now. He's living in a 70, I want to say. So I don't, I think he's out.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I think he's out in the 90s. I do not think he's going to. live a full, like, like, if he is as old as he's, I feel like he looks like he's like, the CGI looks like they're trying to make him look like 20, right? Yeah. I thought it was 19. Yeah, 19, I think would be, I don't think that. 19 to 17 somewhere in there. I just can't imagine, like, now this movie, again, I think that I wouldn't be surprised. This is what I think is right for this story. I wouldn't be surprised if they are like, yeah, and then this, it, like, what happens doesn't make sense. I guess I wouldn't be like too surprised.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I just realized. He's going to grow up with the golden age of 90s kids television. Oh my God, I know. Legends of the Hidden Temple. Rugrats. Rugrats. He didn't kill. It would be incredible if he was still alive in 2005 as a tiny, tiny baby.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah. That would be like if the storm hits and we see him somewhere, that would be unbelievable. Oh, it's like a, it's like a baby carriage or whatever, like a little wicker basket. Or everyone leaves the hospital and yeah, he's like in the NICU or something. Yeah. Like, that would be... Dude. I think we're going to see him as a baby.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I hope we do. You know, you gotta be right. They gotta have him as a baby. I think I really don't think we're gonna see him as a spermoid jumping around in balance him. I think they're gonna do it tastefully. I think he'll die as a baby. I don't think he's gonna shrink until he doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I don't think he's going to die. I don't think he's going to know about him dying. I think he's going to die as a baby because think about how much. much of a tear-jurker it is to see a baby dying. No, it's too much. In this context? Fincher couldn't even do a baby dying when she fell down the stairs.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I think it's enough of a tear-dicker. He only gave us five seconds of the Chekhov's dead baby. He couldn't even handle it. I think it's enough of a good ending to show a baby and then we as the audience are like that baby is 80 years old. Yeah. And he's trapped in a baby's body.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I think that'll be enough for me. But I also was thinking this is getting a little crazy. I was thinking about if they do go past baby Yeah And if they do the spermoid jumping And then beyond It's like where do you even
Starting point is 00:55:10 Maybe he's immortal He just becomes some Some pre sperm Matt what is sperm made out of I mean also if he is truly The reincarnation of Mr. Cake's son Which I feel like is a theory we talked about early That kind of we
Starting point is 00:55:26 Kind of justifies Mr. Cake's existence Yeah And kind of fell by the way side a little bit, then I think it would make sense to me that he could become reincarnated again after being Benjamin as a guy who ages forward again and then kind of just like his life bounces back and forth in the different directions like forever. Which would be a good movie for a sequel, like the third guy in the Benjamin cycle who's aging backwards again, but in like three, like 20, 118 or something.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Who just a normal guy? His name is also Benjamin Button. Because I also want to see what Benjamin Button does with a with a plan. lot in life. Yeah. That would be a good movie, a reimagining of what if Benjamin Button actually aged forward. How would he act? A twist on Benjamin Button where he ages normally.
Starting point is 00:56:10 That's a good idea. Take this character and put him in a normal life. His mom dies. Yeah. I mean, what's different there? His mom dies. So his dad raises him. He becomes an heir to the button fortune. He makes buttons. His dad dies. Or no, his dad doesn't die because he never kills him.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Yeah. But his dad will still get sick. So his dad will still die when he is like. I think the sickness was made up. You do. Yeah. And also, you know what maybe made him sick? Why would he make up the sickness? To manipulate it.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Or Benjamin made up the sickness? Yeah, Benjamin made it up as part of the underlying. Yeah. So that he could kill him. Well, here's a diary thing that I just also realized during this curio. That this is one point where I was like, oh, David Fincher has literally been playing me the whole time, which is that it is actually the diary all along was written by Benjamin with the intention of giving to Caroline.
Starting point is 00:57:01 And so all the alterations in the diary were actually made by Daisy. Oh. And that's why, because Daisy put all the postcards in there. She put these postcards in at this point in the story to reveal the secret. So obviously it was her that crossed stuff out, ripped out pages of stuff that she was like,
Starting point is 00:57:17 Caroline doesn't need to read about this. Daisy puppet master. She actually, like, so, and I was like, it makes so much sense. It's obvious. And that was a point where I was like, Wow. I feel like if I had been watching this in a normal way, I probably wouldn't even have been wondering about this stuff. But the way that we watched it, I ended up spending three weeks wondering about it and like really obsessing over it.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And then realizing that, oh, my God, he did actually think of this all along. And this actually makes sense. It does make sense. Like all this stuff that's in the, like all the weird stuff that's in the diary. Yeah, she ripped out all the parts where he talks about spitting into women's assholes. Yeah, yeah. Because his daughter, she doesn't want her daughter. She doesn't read that about her father.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Yeah. No, of course not. Yeah. And you know he wrote that too. Of course he did. You know he definitely wrote that. Because he doesn't have, he doesn't have restraint. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I'm a little, I'm a little curious about the timing of writing the actual diary at this point. Yeah. It's 85. It's 85. It's 85 when he starts. But he's, but then it seems like at some point it's like a daily diary that he's keeping. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:25 He's looking for work at one point. What doesn't make sense to me is that. I think the beginning. It's like he wrote an intro. The first chunk of it. No, no, no, it's the other way around, I think. I think the first chunk of it is like he, it was his daily journal where he's like writing about jobs he's taking and like staying in the homeless shelter and stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Yeah. And then there's a part like in the middle of it where he's like, okay, I'm going to write my story now. And then the rest of it is the story. That's what it was in Kiro 1. Okay. Like he just decided to start using it as that. But yeah, it is interesting because memory, steel, steel, trap up here
Starting point is 00:58:57 if you can remember all this crap. Well, it's why a bunch of the stuff is wrong, I guess, too. Yeah, oh, there's like barely any left in this curio. In the hospital, Caroline says she remembers that. She remembers that day. She remembers meeting Benjamin in the dance studio. She goes, that was him. And then suddenly,
Starting point is 00:59:14 in the hospital, the lights flicker. The nurse runs in. This part was it also made me laugh so fast, similar to the way before, nurse runs in. The hurricane has changed directions. It's going to make landfall like almost right now. We have to leave right away. Or if you want to leave, you can leave.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And Caroline goes, no, we're staying. Mistake. So this is, I think the ending is coming up. Yeah. This, where she's going to die as the hurricane hits or something along those lines. Back in the diary or just in the story, Benjamin sits in his hotel room. There's a knock at the door. It's Daisy.
Starting point is 00:59:48 He invites her in. She enters. Benjamin asks if she's all right. She says, I'm sorry. I don't know what I'm doing here. She puts her hand on his face like she did so long ago. and Curio. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Wow. And we have officially made it through all of the transitions without a sentence once being cut off. That's true. That's true. We officially cleared the final hurdle. It's pretty amazing. Pretty crazy. It is insane how every single, yeah, every single one of these, this movie is meant to be watched like this.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Yeah. I really couldn't believe it. Preveiled in a way that I did not think was possible. And it's proven to be true. Yeah. Yeah. This, so this final shot of this Curio where she has her hand on his. face. This is like a callback to when they were in the blanket for it together. Way, way back when, when she touches his face. And she comes in here and she says, I don't know what I'm going to do. And what she does in that scene is she gives, she makes Benjamin light a match and light a candle, even though he's not allowed to play with matches. And throughout this whole movie, there has been just so much fire foreshadowing. And I'm wondering if she has come to finally burn the devil Benjamin.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I would love to see him go Go Go Come on Daddy, why you do that? He dies like Judge Duming up Daisy
Starting point is 01:01:03 Stop throwing a Ratchez-A And he shrinks into Daisy come on now Stop throwing matches Eddie You know if I don't affect me Because I'm from an infernal land
Starting point is 01:01:10 What the hell are you doing Davey? You know I'm a demon You know You know putting it on fire Going just send me home Daisy But yeah
Starting point is 01:01:17 So I was I have a couple theories here Yes Daisy's revenge style And that's one part of it Another part of it is So
Starting point is 01:01:30 when Benjamin leaves Daisy is awake and watching him And earlier I forget exactly when it is But earlier There's a point where Daisy opens her eyes in the night
Starting point is 01:01:41 And Benjamin just has his eyes open staring at both of them In the middle of the night Very vampiric Vampire style And when Benjamin After when Benjamin comes back Daisy only says
Starting point is 01:01:55 She says, why did you come back? And I believe this could be pointing to the fact that Daisy did actually kill Benjamin. Because when she's on the ground at the bottom of the stairs covered in blood, is it her blood? She says, the baby is gone. What is Benjamin becoming? A baby. A baby. The baby is gone.
Starting point is 01:02:19 So Benjamin shows up looking creepy, young, rejuvenated. She starts tearing up. Why did you come back? She's not like, where were you? Because she knows where he was. I already killed you. Yeah. Why didn't you come back?
Starting point is 01:02:32 And when Benjamin is sitting in his hotel room at the end, he says, I was sitting in my hotel room wondering why I came back at all. Because he showed up, he was ready to kill, to get revenge and he couldn't go through with it. He said, why did I even come back? Because he was already putting the ground in a tiny blue coffin. Yes. Just like a child's coffin put into the ground. And then he popped it. His eyes opened.
Starting point is 01:02:53 He did a kill bill. Three inch. punch out of the coffin. Yeah. So Daisy, and I think we can all agree that Daisy is the orchestrator of the diary at this point, right? She's the diary master. She's definitely the editor. So she clearly, I think, created this diary as a way to tell, to reveal to Caroline, not only her true parentage, but also that she killed her actual, her birth father, and also to justify those actions and give clues as to why she had to do that.
Starting point is 01:03:23 and that's why the diary is in the way that it is. Yes. I have a new theory. Okay. Oh, my God. Benjamin Button does not exist. Caroline's real father is a homeless guy. And she didn't have the heart to tell her that.
Starting point is 01:03:38 So she made up this whole story about the backwards man. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Made all this shit so that she would feel. And that kid that showed up at the dance studio, just a random kid. Just some gay guy kid who wanted to learn out of dance. But they didn't want a gay kid at their studio. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Because her feelings. Her, she wrote that in the thing. Benjamin giving that glare. She bled through. Giving that glare at the gay guy, her homophobia bled through. It was just a gay little kid who wanted to learn how to dance. The story is being tinged by her. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:05 It was like that British movie. Now get the hell out of here. What's that British movie called? Billy Elliott. Yeah. I've never seen it. He's a Billy Elliott that's showing up and he's gay. There was also,
Starting point is 01:04:16 uh, oh, uh, when, when Daisy goes to the bathroom at the burger restaurant, She says yes to pay. She goes, the telephone rings one time in the restaurant. Nobody picks it up and the telephone stops ringing. Perhaps this was Mr. Dawes trying to make his call that I had mentioned. Mr. Dawes trying to call between through the layers of reality. You talked about the layers of reality that there being a call. That's good. And the phone is, phone rang and nobody picked it up.
Starting point is 01:04:47 That would have been an amazing. And Mr. Dawes is not a patient man. No, no, no. No, but he could be a patient. picking up. But he could be a patient, man, in the hospital. Damn, that's good. They, uh, I like that, I like the idea that they would use that sort of meta fiction thing.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Uh-huh. Just so that he can tell two more stories about getting hit by lightning. What if the last one is once while I was talking on the phone through the layers of reality. And then the lightning strikes him on the other end of the phone. The lightning travels through the phone line into the real world and creates Hurricane Katrina. Oh my God, it's Katrina. Katrina was the name of his dog. The phone line is the way that the electricity can travel through realities.
Starting point is 01:05:31 What does a wave look like? Cascading waves, exactly. Wow. Looks exactly like a phone line cable. Electric theory. This is electric theory, y'all. This is electric theory to a T. This exactly follows electric theory.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I like that need a theory to explain that electricity can go through a phone line. Well, I'm just saying the shape of it. Yeah. Yeah, I know. But the shape of a wave going through a phone line is not, doesn't need to be part of the thing. Yes, it does. I mean, the shape of a wave looking like a phone line. Well, yes, it does because that's how it dodges. Exactly. But that's just normal. But that's how it dodges time. He is not even theory brand at all. He's not even theory brain. No, you are not theory brain. I'm completely theory brain.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Drop a theory right now. I literally just said the wave theory where the wave is the same. So you're a one theory. You're a one theory. You're a one theory. That's part of electric theory. No. You're a one theory pony. Me and Cam have been putting out some amazing theories. I put out amazing theories. You did what you did?
Starting point is 01:06:28 Build a bear theory. Brass button theory. Brass button theory is still. Wave cable theory. Wave cable theory. It's plausible. Yeah. No theories are disproved until the end of it.
Starting point is 01:06:40 And honestly, even then. I'm a vampire. And here's my brass button. I'm a centipa. I'm a centipa. I'm a centipa. That was my brass button. I said pleasure.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Follow the line. What if we get to the end? What if it's all everything? Yeah. Every single thing it wants. By the way, I'm a vampire. And I've been to cook my whole life. I killed my father. I've been a cookie my whole life. And I said all that stuff about the car crash because it was the ingredients of a coffee cake.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yep. And meath. I've been waiting. Oh, I've been waiting years to say this. Oh, did I tell you to say me? I've been waiting years to say meath. The person last night who sent me mef theory. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:17 They said to me, they sent me this video. Right. Okay. It made this person, Cairo sent me mef. Dude, no way. Dude, that's meef. Meef, right?
Starting point is 01:07:29 Cookie, meef. Me, A.F. I am a cookie. Okay. Been a cookie my whole life. This blew my mind last night. He'd be like, cookie, meef.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Meath. Oh, that's pretty good. Okay. Meaf theory. Is that a mispelling of... This is a way a Cajun would say it, Meath. And also trying to...
Starting point is 01:07:50 It's the only, way that you could fit that into a wordle. Yeah. You'd have to alter. I mean, I guess you get out of an extra effort. So this actually, last night, when I was walking home, I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's been under our noses the whole time.
Starting point is 01:08:04 All we did was spelled it wrong. All we did was spell it wrong. Or me as thuck. Oh, my God. Me as this hell. Oh, my God. Me as this ombre. Because Benjamin refers to hell as this hell because he's from hell.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Yes. He goes, what the this hell? because he was born in the pits of him. I would like to see him as a really microscopic baby just lapping through the river stairs. I would love, dude, I would love a boss baby type situation where he is a talking baby in a suit.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Here's a fun fact. This is not really a theory, but just a little fun tidbit. Can you name the fun fact though? The swim fact. Okay, swim fun fact. Elizabeth Tilda Swinton when she finally swine,
Starting point is 01:08:49 swam the English Channel. She did it in 34 hours, 22 minutes, and 14 seconds, which is just a little bit over 124 curios long. Wow. Wow, that is a fun fact. That's just a fun little fact. What's the record for the English Channel swim? I wonder how she stacked up. She did 34 hours swimming the English channel? I'm going to look at the fastest. 34 hours, 22 minutes, 14 seconds. Is that yeah, is that slow for an English Channel swim? I have no idea. Fast as English. Come on, man. That is his English Channel swim is six hours and 45 minutes. Well, she was 68.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Yeah, 34. But when she did it, the first time she tried it, the first time she tried it, it took her 32 hours and she couldn't do it. And she was like young. Yeah. She was like 19, I think. That's so crazy. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Who's the oldest? Oldest, let's see, oldest English channel. As of 1968. Oldest English Channel. swimmer is Otto Fanning, who completed the crossing at 73 years old and 177 days on September. Not, no, not, no, he's 73 years and 177 days. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:10:05 No, I didn't. You said in. Sorry, and a hundred. Let's see in terms of. Yeah, what was his speed? Like, that's not true. Yeah, I know. That would take too long.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I was instantly conjuring a scenario in my head where he was getting fed like meals off of boat. Okay, he did it in, this guy's 73. Yeah. He did it in 12 hours, 52 minutes. Dude, she sucks. She fucking did more than triple. She sucks in swimming. And he's older. 34 hours. Five years older
Starting point is 01:10:33 and he did it. Come on. 34 hours. And it's not like we have new swim technology. No, no, it's just a person in a body of water. It's always swimming. God, she's so bad at swimming. She is, yeah. Among the English channel swimmers. She's being interviewed at like the turtle kid. Yeah. Yeah. More than
Starting point is 01:10:49 as an edge. She's the kid that walks the mile, bro. I mean, especially that it was 30 hours when she was fucking, when she was in her 20s. That's unreal. And she couldn't do it because she was getting pushed backwards. She did it with no, she must have done it with no training at all.
Starting point is 01:11:04 She's been like, all right, fuck it. I'm going to say that that's a production error. They should have looked up how long it takes to swimming in the English channel. Maybe it was different back then, but even so, it is pretty crazy. Yeah. I guess there's a lot more boats in the water back then. Led life jacket. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Slow her down. The asbestos lining it. Yeah. She was worried about getting set on fire in the ocean. The lead in the asbestos. Before she met Benjamin, she tried to swim it. She had, she was swimmed backwards. But after Benjamin was out of her life, she swam forward.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Mm. Curious. She got put on a forward path after losing this fucking loser. Yeah. Seven. I, uh, what else did I write down? Oh, just another thing. Like, I feel like, why did,
Starting point is 01:11:48 Why did Daisy say she lost the baby? Another case of a possible replacement clone theory. That was so weird to me that it was like, we were held in suspense for 25 seconds. So, such a short time. On a huge stakes thing. Yeah. I guess it's just a, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:05 And seemed like a bizarre thing to fake out on. Yeah. I guess the fake out's just there because it's like, oh my God. It's one last fake out of like this isn't Caroline's dad. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I know that was.
Starting point is 01:12:18 I was like, oh, I guess it's not. Yeah. Oh, I guess it's not. Oh, it is. Oh, it actually is. Yeah, okay. One second later, oh, it is. Born very...
Starting point is 01:12:25 It's a fake out that doesn't really need to be there. Born very little, five, five pounds, four ounces, I believe is what... Well, she must be a premium. Crazy. She's a fucking starey. Yeah. True. Maybe that was, maybe she flew out.
Starting point is 01:12:38 What? Yeah. Years ringing crazy. Really? Yeah. I just got flashbanged from a different universe. It's the, it's the, dude, it's the... It's the BC.
Starting point is 01:12:47 630-clock. cold brew. No, it's fine. I do that every day. 6.30? Yeah. Jesus. In what direction? I lost this day. I didn't do anything today. You drank a cold? You've got plenty of day. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Drink a cold brew at 6 o'clock. I think you're going to be okay. I guess you're right. Anyway, let's get into the ranking. Well, we have to name it first. Name is tough because I think this was, this was of all the curios. Kate Blanchett's pee. This one really did. This was the, first time that I had I had a hard time not just taking this on its own merits. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. This one was the first, this one, it was, I feel like I really put my foot in my mouth last time. It was like, oh, it's not going to come together. Yeah. This felt like it came together. The birth of the meritocracy. I feel like it did come together. I also feel like we're being impacted. The birth of meritocracy. In what way?
Starting point is 01:13:42 I don't know. A cool name. That was a funny name. I think, I do agree with you that I felt different about it. about this curio for some reason. But I think part of it is also that this is coming to an end and it's making me sad and I'm just being sentimental. I know, me too. I was feeling so much more sentimental
Starting point is 01:13:58 about this, uh, this curio than any of the others. I think I'm feeling just, this one was hitting me. I'm realizing this attachment to this process is being going to be severed at the, uh,
Starting point is 01:14:11 I mean, I said it before, but it's crazy. This, I said it before we started recording. This, uh, this really has given me the glimpse into an alternate reality where we
Starting point is 01:14:18 started like a T-E, TV recap podcast. Yeah. And it's like crazy. It's like it really feels like for a month I've been living a different life. Oh yeah. It's strange. It's a strange feeling.
Starting point is 01:14:30 I mean, we got to do a TV recap podcast now. But it's a matter of just picking. And I think the key would be, the key would be to pick a, a terrible show. Yeah. In the way that this is not actually a good movie.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Yeah. It would have to be a show that just sucks. What's that show that's been on in England since like the 60s? Oh, the soap or the soap opera that will. Yeah. Dude, we do a general hospital rewatch show. General hospital show. We start from the 70s.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Yeah, I do like, I do love shows that have a trillion episodes. Yeah. Let's do Blue Bloods. I don't even know what that show is. It's Tom Selleck and Bonnie Wahlberg. Oh, yeah. I think you're in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:09 We should just do a cartoon like Spongob. Spongebob. Rewatch podcast where we do this level of granular analysis of Spongebob? Spongebob episodes are what, 10 minutes? Yeah. So you can watch like, watch it like five times. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:22 True. And honestly, I wouldn't be complaining. Yeah. I love fun. You can really get into it. Fucking funny. And just be,
Starting point is 01:15:28 yeah. Not a bad idea. Um, in terms of name. I have to go pee. I do actually. No. Do,
Starting point is 01:15:38 don't do false alarms like that. It's what Kate Blanchett says. I know, but like, seriously, when you do false alarms like that, it could, it could ruin everything.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Here's the title of the curio. I have to go pee. End quote, I have to go pee, end quote, Kate Blanchett. I have to go pee, I have to go pee, simicolon, the baby's gone. I guess he went to India. I guess he went to India. That line was the funniest one to me.
Starting point is 01:16:03 I like that. I like, I guess he went to India. Reading the really emotional postcards would be like, I guess he went to India. It is how I felt. And then he has the like bandana. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:16 That'd be so funny if he became a Sikh. That would have been sick. Oh, that's my soul. He does wear like a wrap on his head for one part when he's washing his clothes. I like a wraper in his head. Oh, no. I guess that is kind of how I felt too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:32 It's also a nice. I like that it's a tasteful name for the curio. What I would say is one that we have been giving this episode a lot of respect to. Yeah. Yeah, I certainly have been feeling respectful of this one. Thank you to this movie for the time that you of the time of my life. Oh, that's actually another good. Maybe we'll do that for 10.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Thank you to this movie for the time of my life. Thank you to this movie for the time of my life. There we go. That's a perfect title for the next one. Well, we can't name it until we see it. We'll keep that in the back pocket. I think that one is going to fit in very well regardless. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:17:11 There might be something better that happened. We don't know what's going to happen. I have no idea. We really don't know. There could be a velociraptor. There probably won't be. But I, but here's open. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:17:20 There really could be. Oh, damn. I can't be here. I mean, this is David Fincher. He once brought to life the xenomorph. That's true. That's true. Hard to do.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Could we, you just don't know. You never know what's coming for you. You never know what's coming for you. Hey boy. Hey boy. Who says that again? Just a random old guy. It's been so long.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Oh, that's it. Yeah. He says it. Yeah, he says, hey boy. Oh, he's in. No, he only says, hey boy. Oh, hey boy. Uh, Benjamin is wheeling his wheelchair around the porch.
Starting point is 01:17:47 And then the old guy puts his puts his king down and he goes, he's disturbing the piece of the old people. That's it. Doesn't say anything else. I remember that scene very vividly now. All right, I'm going to show my art now, I think. We got to give it a ranking, right?
Starting point is 01:18:00 We do the ranking after the name. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. We do whatever. Okay. What's the name of the curio again? I guess he went to India. I guess he went to India.
Starting point is 01:18:10 I guess he went to India. Should be in the, in the old slides. Okay, so obviously, every week, new digital painting. Art Deco, I'm not going to lie. I don't know what art deco. It's your regrets putting Art Deco on here.
Starting point is 01:18:24 I feel like that's almost, yeah. It also feels kind of like out of time. Like, I feel like you could have done that in like seven and it would have fit in really well. You know what I mean? Well, this was just stream of consciousness because I didn't know. I don't know when things were going to be. Yeah, no, of course.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I know. You couldn't have known. I just threw it on. I'm saying it's unfortunate. I don't know. Yeah, I agree. I think, I think this one is, you know, this isn't my strongest work, but we're coming into the last one,
Starting point is 01:18:49 and I'm going to go all out. Before you show it, can I just say, when I think Art Deco, the only thing I can think of is just the Chrysler Building. That's the only thing I can imagine Art Deco being. Honestly, I know the phrase exists.
Starting point is 01:19:01 I don't know what it is. And the lobby of the Empire State Building, the way you see it in Elf. All right, just go ahead and press next. I haven't seen Elf in a long time. It's the Chrysler building, right? The Chrysler building is on it. Can I say, Caleb,
Starting point is 01:19:11 that's exactly why I said that before you showed the art because I had an inkling. And it's almost just tacked. on because I was looking up art deco art. And you know, I looked at the cover for, uh, for what's that shit, the great Gatsby. Yeah, Gatsby. You know, I had these lines. Yeah. I got those lines. I think I could see all of your inspirations here. This is sort of flapperly in a way to me. That's best I could do at least. Oh, so it's like 1920s stuff. Yeah. And then you can see I even just did this in a panic. Yeah. Yeah. With a different brush, the Chrysler building. And then I was done. I was like, I should
Starting point is 01:19:42 just drive it drawn the Chrysler building. Yeah. But, um, yeah. So I'm, yeah. So I'm, It is just the price of this. That is just what Art Deco is, I think. Well, there's a guy named Erte, I believe, who is the guy who, like, the old flapper drawings of, like, a woman in a long dress. You can come in, Joe. And, like, they have the hair wrap and stuff. Like, that is technically, I think, considered art deco. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:06 But it is most known as an architectural style. Interesting. Which I don't even know why I wrote that one down. And, in fact, that was one that kind of surprised me when I, uh, yeah. But yeah, you see that shit right there? Yeah, yeah. Those ladies, man, they're pretty. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:22 And they're free. Yeah, these are free women. They're libertine. Well, well, well. So, yeah, should we just, should we rate it up? Yes. Rated up. I mean, dude, this is a tough one because I'm trying to remove.
Starting point is 01:20:34 I don't know whether or not to remove myself from the sentimentality I felt watching this. You said 8.5? Yeah. I'm going to try my best because in terms of how this one made me feel considered. the set and setting. I've now only started watching these right before I go to bed to try to induce Benjamin lucidity dreaming. But it does make me feel too emotional,
Starting point is 01:21:00 so I'm going to give this an 8-2 and try to be, I'm going to try to be normal. I'm an interesting place where I think this one, more than anyone, any of them, like I feel like I've been using a very curiosentric rating system. Yeah. Just what I feel like I talked about last time of like, is this making me laugh?
Starting point is 01:21:21 Is this feeling crazy? Is, am I able to like really dig in and put, like, get a lot of like, thematic meat out of this? This one has thematic meat. This one had meath. And this one, I think, was just under a completely different plane where I think this is just this, the most out of any of the first, this is the first time this movie has felt like an actual movie.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Yeah. I think. And so I would probably, like, I mean, it's almost like a coughing baby versus hydrogen bomb style scenario where I feel like I have to completely change my criteria to rate this one. And I don't know whether I can, I'm going to give it like a nine or a seven. Okay. Like I don't know what to do. We'll flip a coin.
Starting point is 01:21:57 I would say instead of splitting it down the middle, you should flip a coin. Okay. An ancient street car token. Yes, you should flip an ancient street car token. Do we have one on him? Joe, do you have an ancient street car token? Okay. He's actually looking.
Starting point is 01:22:10 He's licking. He's licking. Why are you licking your lips to look? He might actually have one. looking inside of his hands. Well, what about one of those dice right there? Oh, he's giving, he's going to give me something. He's giving you something.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Is it flippable? Is it an ancient streetcar token? It's an ancient streetcar token. No, it's his dog's dog tag with his full address on it and phone number. No worry. It won't be able to see it on the camera unless I hold it really close like this. But Cameron can see it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:40 So if it lands on, if it lands on Joe's full address, that's a nine. Okay. That's fair to say, right? All right. Okay. Guys, it's a seven. Wow. So, meant to be.
Starting point is 01:22:51 All right, meant to be. This is all about fate. Thanks, Joe. Okay, so what did you guys say? 8.5. I said 82. 8, 8, 5. And a 7.
Starting point is 01:23:06 7.9. 7.9. Wow. That's about, I would say that's a little above average right now. That's close to the front of the pack, I think. Yeah. That I think wasn't... We've had some high ones.
Starting point is 01:23:21 7.96, we already had another one. I think we have another one that's 7.9, if I remember correctly. Let me look really quick to 7.9. I think... Yeah, Curio 2 is also 7.9. Whoa. The best day of my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:38 That one. Wow. So we have another 7.9. Okay, that'll muddy it up a little bit, but we'll figure it out next week. I changed my ranking to 10. You can't do. It's already locked in.
Starting point is 01:23:52 It's too late. It's already locked in everything crazy. It's in the calculator. Are we going? I guess he went to India question mark. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:58 I guess he went to India? I feel like putting a question mark is a, mm-hmm. You only saw one Curio. He saw two because he made a song for another one. You saw two curios.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Out of those two, which one did you like more? Yeah. Yeah. But it's even true. Yeah, it is true. You were here for four? He was here for four, which is currently our bottom.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Four is the worst one. Yeah. Yeah. I think eight might have been worse than four. But no, that was the one before this one. Yeah. Yeah. We have one left.
Starting point is 01:24:32 We're not going to talk about that. We're not thinking about it. Yeah. We're not thinking about it. All right, let's do the song, man. Yeah. Show us what you got, Pat. Well, this week we have a song from the one and only Charles Austin.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Wow. I was wondering. And I forgot to make that. Different child. He was a different child. Yeah. I completely forgot to make the lyrics video, so we're just going to listen to the song. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:58 That's okay. We're just going to have to sit here. Pull up a photo of Charles, I guess. Yeah, yeah. See if you can find a picture of Charles. Yeah. Just search Charles. No last name.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Just search Charles. And then whatever photo comes up. Chuck, I call him Chuck. Yeah. See A. Oh, we should do a movie, a TV rewatch of the show Chuck. Who's Zachary leaving? Bye. There we go. Okay. Yeah, click that and then put the song and let her rip.
Starting point is 01:25:23 What's the word for listening that's like Gander? Let's take a listen, but let's take a Gander. Can we make a word like that right now? Lander, listening Gander. Let's take an oddon. That's good. Audio. Audio. Audio. Yeah. Odd. Audion. Let's take an audio on. Let's take an audio on. Sounds good. based on a true story by F. Scott. You're amazing addition. Now, he said in that that he rented it
Starting point is 01:27:53 for $4. For $4. Charles, I'm going to let you know. No. No. You're not getting that money back. I know it's kind of annoying to pay $4 for a tenth of a movie, but...
Starting point is 01:28:10 You didn't send him the Google Drive folder? I thought I did. I'm pretty sure I did. I'm almost 99% positive. I mean, he picked up on a thread that I feel like we didn't even talk about, which was the diaper line. Yeah. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 01:28:27 I had a note about how Cape Lynchette had to go pee. Yeah. And when as soon as the song started, he was like the saying, I have to go pee. I was like, nice. Somebody got it. Nice. I'm glad that Charles and I,
Starting point is 01:28:40 I picked up on the same thing. That was a great song. Pat, I'm going to put the pressure on you, man. We got to figure out what we're doing with these songs. I know. I got to figure it out. The EP, man. Me and Cam have nothing to do with this shit.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Or even just doing a live concert. I guess we could throw it up on band can. Doing a live concert of all of the songs is a fucking amazing idea. That could be. And we just fly everybody out. Yeah. Yeah. Who gives a fuck, man?
Starting point is 01:29:06 Blow it all. Blow all the money. And oh my God. we screen the movie and people come out and play their song during their career. Yes. I think this is a great idea. You got to do some kind of button live experience.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Yeah, that was not a bad idea. All right, maybe we put it out all. We should start brains. We put it all out as one track. And then we make it sync up like Wizard of Oz, Pink Floyd. How? Pretty impossible. Because their songs aren't 16 minutes long.
Starting point is 01:29:37 That's a good point. Just loop them. Well, there's got to be a part in the movie. where we start it, right? Oh, okay. Find the, okay. Yeah. How crazy would it be if for the rest of our lives we started doing riff tracks, but only for Benjamin
Starting point is 01:29:50 Button. We did it like a hundred times. That's a good idea. We're like, by the like 10th one, just going to like, yeah. I remember this part. Oh, he's about to follow. She's about to follow the stairs. Yeah. We just say, are saying
Starting point is 01:30:06 the all the lines of the movie got to memorize. Seven. Seven. I'm so excited for the Broadway production. I know. We got to go. We have to go. I can't believe that we're finally made it. We have to go as VIP guests.
Starting point is 01:30:16 If you work for that fucking production, you send us tickets right now. If there's anybody who works in any sort of Broadway capacity that has any connection to that play. Please, God, can we please just get good tickets or go to the premier? My dad's cousin. My dad's cousin does that. That's perfect. Disregard. What?
Starting point is 01:30:33 It starts in November. There's a November. They're doing a Broadway. I don't think. I'm bringing it from the West End with the British cast. I have not spoken to my dad's cousin since I was eight years old, maybe. I don't even think he knows if I exist. Benjamin Button vibes.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Yeah, you could be, yes, that is very button-esque. Yeah. It's curious. I'm seven, but I look a lot older telling that to my second cousin, even though I haven't seen him in years. All right, guys. Yeah. See you for what will possibly be the most painful podcast episode of my fucking life. Part one, week one, day one.
Starting point is 01:31:07 One's all the coast. 10. Oh, my God. It's making me sick. Yep. See you then on the Patreon. Bye. For the grand finale. The grand beginning.
Starting point is 01:31:18 I feel like he's so perverse because I feel like his, I feel like his justification for hating and killing his dad was over his dad not, like over not getting to meet his mother. Yeah. Like that's the thing he fixates on
Starting point is 01:31:34 before he like, walking storms out. And then he just doesn't care at all. And now his, you know, for all, in every way, his real mother, Queenie does. And dude, they cut to this church. And there are people that were probably Queenie's fucking mailman going, oh, God, no!
Starting point is 01:31:52 Singing, praising God, just mourning this woman more than you could ever mourn anybody. No, Hambert. No, Hambert, obviously. He's passed on. Surely, yeah. Hey, boy. And the two fucking, these two crackers in the pew, Kate Blanchett and Brad Pitt are sitting there
Starting point is 01:32:08 looking cool as a cucumber. And people are coming up and they're saying, you see your mother with a wonderful woman and he's like, he's so lovely. Not a single one of them is like weren't you fucking old? Again,
Starting point is 01:32:21 yeah. Sorry, hold on. Not a single one of them because it's like, there's definitely people coming from out of town, right? Haven't seen him in 30 years.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Yeah, haven't seen him in 30 years, haven't seen her like in like a couple years. Weren't you a very old small boy? Yeah, because it's because they know. Yeah, it's not like they'd just be like this is a random guy. Like they know it's Queenie's adoptive son. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Yeah. Yeah. They definitely know. Just walk up to him. They know that he has an affliction. She was born from her sister. He was a different child. He was a different child. He did the hiccum.
Starting point is 01:32:55 We're all there. Walking up just being like, so what the fuck do you? What is up with you?

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