Podcrushed - Introducing: The Dylan Hour with Dylan Mulvaney

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

On April 21st, the we will be doing our very first live speaking event at the renowned 92nd Street Y in New York City. We’ll be joined by one of our favorite podcasters and storytellers of ...all time, Anna Martin (from the hit New York Times podcast Modern Love). You can get your tickets a 92NY.org/events/podcrushed. Can’t wait to see you there!  Today we're handing our feed over to a show we think you’ll love: The Dylan Hour, a weekly cocktail party hosted by Dylan Mulvaney, from Lemonada Media. The Dylan Hour is a delightful, 1960s-inspired, pink confection of a podcast.  In this fun weekly video podcast, Dylan sips and spills with some of her favorite girls, gays, and theys — featuring pop stars, Broadway belters, actors, authors, like Glennon Doyle, Margaret Cho and even her own dad! In fact, this week we’re sharing the episode of Dylan chatting with her dad, Jim Mulvaney. Tune in to hear Dylan and her dad swap stories, including his encounter with Stevie Nicks and how he unknowingly inspired Dylan's expensive taste. After you listen, be sure to search for The Dylan Hour wherever you get your podcasts, watch every episode on YouTube, or head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheDylanHourfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:35 episode we are turning over our feed to a show we are currently crushing on the dillon hour a weekly cocktail party hosted by dylan malvaney from lomenada media the dillon hour is a delightful 1960s inspired pink confection of a podcast in this fun very fun weekly Oh, video podcast. My goodness. What else? Dylan chats with some of her favorite girls, gays, and days featuring pop stars, Broadway belters, actors, authors, and icons like Glennon Doyle, Margaret Cho, and even her own dad. In fact, we're about to play that very episode for you right now. Tune in to hear Dylan and her dad swap stories, including his encounter with Stevie Nix. Wow. And how he unknowingly inspired Dylan's expensive taste. If you want to hear more, search for The Dylan Hour with Dylan Mulvaney, or click on the link in the show notes. Enjoy, and we will be back next week. In your car, in the shower, on a walk, the Dylan Hour, feeling sweet, feeling sour.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I feel nothing. The Dylan Hour. My couch is open, it's better than therapy. All your soccer moms, all your days and thames, all your bottom boys. My bisexual fems. Come one and all disassociate with me. It's free. Grab a drink or two or three.
Starting point is 00:05:01 You have no friends. All good. You got me. It's the Dillon Hour. Love you. Welcome back to the Dillon Hour. I'm your host, Dillon Wauvaney, and today we are really starting at the very beginning. Because we're sitting down with someone who quite literally helped bring me into this world.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I would like to give him a proper introduction, but I still don't quite know what he does for work. But I am very excited to share my father, James Francis Mulvaney Jr. Good to be here. Thank you for the introduction. You ever been on a podcast before? I never have. Oh, wow. Well, actually, I was going to say we're taking your podcast virginity, and that's on theme with our
Starting point is 00:05:52 very special drink for the day, which is, if you'll grab your drink, dad, this is a virgin white Russian. Oh, it's also known as milk. Yes, so this is milk, and I think this is going to be a very hot take, but I love milk. I like drinking milk, but I only like drinking milk with ice. Oh, me too. I wonder what that, you must have gotten that one for me. Apple falls from the tree on that one.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Some people are really weird about drinking milk, but is it because of your cookies that you love milk or did you always love it? Oh, no, I always love milk. It's also amazing because we have a snack here at the show. Would you grab them for us? Okay, well, I'm James Francis Mulady, Jr. So he is known, you've got to talk to the mic though, Dad. Okay. So these are my cookies. My dad's cookies. I am famous for those in San Diego. They call me the cookie man. Yeah, they do. And I call them either crack cookies or, let's see, this kitchen sink. How many do you make a week. About 500, and I'm basically addicted to making cookies. And you don't sell them. No, I give them away to clients and friends and anybody that I see. And the presentation's always
Starting point is 00:07:03 the Costco paper plate. And honey, you don't need anything more than that because the cookies are that good. Let's hit them between us. You might, I haven't eaten much day. Could I have a cookie? Please. So let's do first tastes on this cookie. Mmm. Yeah, that takes me back to childhood. Um, I really can't remember a time in my life when you didn't make them. Oh, I, uh, I pretty much started when you were born. You got to talk into the mic, though. Okay. It's going to be a theme of this episode.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Um, you look at that. It's right here, honey, though. Hello. Don't look at the, don't look at there. Okay. Look at me. Look at you. Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That's easy. You're beautiful. Thanks so much. Um, I, uh, I got off booze and Coke, uh, drugs 24 years ago. Mm-hmm. And basically because you were born and I wanted to be a better dad. And then you started making cookies because of that? I started baking cookies because of that.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And I just put... What else do you think you're addicted to in life? Wow. Jennifer, my wife. And my beautiful stepmom is in the room with us. Yes, yes. I'm addicted to scuba diving and snorkeling and Bora Bora, which I'm leaving next week for for another month.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I love to dance, so that's an addiction, I would say. I've gotten some different, I'm addicted to shopping, which I think you are actually allergic to. And story time is that my dad, what's your favorite store in the world? Costco. Thought so. And my dad, like, you can pretty much get anything in the Costco shopping cart if you're quick enough because he's in and out in about four minutes. And Costco's a pretty big store. But if you can make it in the basket, he'll buy it for you.
Starting point is 00:08:46 But then around Christmas time, can you explain their Christmas? Christmas situation. Well, with you, it was kind of fun because you'd make a list of everything you wanted and you'd tell me the store to go to and I'd walk into, you know, some lush cosmetics or Bloomingdale's or Nordstrom. Some place and then I would ask for one of the folks that works there and they'd come up and they'd go, you're Dylan's dad. And I said, yes, here's everything that Dylan wanted.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And, you know, it's pretty color coordinated. Oh, it was pretty fun because. Because if I didn't do that for you, you wouldn't get it. I would have gotten ski goggles from Costco, and I hadn't been skiing in eight years, but I still got those. He still got the goggles for me. Oh, come on. Now, that was because there were $50, and I wanted a pair, and I just got you a pair. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Matching. Well, right. So when you wanted a snow ski, which you did do and you're still doing, but now you've got the pink ones. But I feel like you've brought me into certain worlds of, you know, sports and Catholicism, and I brought you into department stores. Broadway. Musicals and gosh, I was so blessed. Was that a thing in your life before? Oh, no, never.
Starting point is 00:09:54 But once you got involved and you were in the Grinch stole Christmas at the old globe, that was just so much fun. Good times, right? Every night I'd go to a woman. Those were the days. Us going to the Grinch at the old globe, Dad. Who loves Christmas? Who's love Christmas?
Starting point is 00:10:11 So, Dad, here at the Dillon Hour, we like to do a bitter and sweet of the week. My sweet is already very sweet because I'm eating a cookie, but. What's your bitter and sweet of the week? Oh, okay. Well, the bitter and my uncle Ray, who was 98 years old, my mother's brother, is getting to the end of his life. Oh, no. Yep, he's... We love you, Uncle Ray.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Oh, good man. And then the sweet is, I just got 19 years of sobriety. Hi-five. Yeah. I want you to give me my 20-year. and that's a big deal because without that I wouldn't be here today I wouldn't have you as my beautiful daughter and what's been the hardest part of sobriety would you say um probably when I'm out to dinner not having a glass of some cabernet or something of that nature that and then it seems as though sometimes you're left out because people they want to party hard yeah they want to party harder and you don't drink so you're just as fun if not funner oh yeah except crazy i can go to bed at nine o'clock now you do be going to bed at night we're going out tonight i'm thinking oh boy but uh we'll get it figured out and but just uh life is so much
Starting point is 00:11:28 easier now and uh it's just really uh because we still have cookies and milk we still have cookies and milk and i've got you and i'm so proud of you and the fact what you've been able to do which is just incredible you're such a great example of uh somebody that loves people and loves doing what they're doing. Thanks, Dad. Well, I think my, let's see, what my suite of the week is that I'm about to take you tonight to our first big Hollywood premiere. And we're going to see, um, yeah, honey, we're going, um, well, we'll see about that, honey.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Oh, come on. We're going to the premiere of, uh, Will & Harper on Netflix, which is, uh, Will Ferrell. And I know you're, you're a fan of his, right? Big, big. Okay, good. And, um, I, I just, you. You always say you'd like to go to an event like this. So I'm down.
Starting point is 00:12:19 We're going to do it. But my bitter is that I'm already preemptively a little nervous about what you're going to say to people. Oh, I don't blame you. So let's practice this. Okay, yes. When somebody says, so, Jim, what did you think of the movie? It was beautiful. It was something that moved me.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Oh, good. Excellent. Oh, what's it like being Dylan's dad? Oh, I'm. the most special dad in the world. Yeah, you are. I can't tell you how many times. Every day I was at a meeting this morning on my way up in Escadito,
Starting point is 00:12:57 and I was talking to these two gals that have a business, and I asked the one if, because I always ask everybody if they know you, and, you know, this gal didn't know you. Oh. And that was amazing. Well, then the other nurse came in. She found out I said, I said I was Dylan's dad. she went nuts she just couldn't believe the fact that I was Dylan I get people asking to take
Starting point is 00:13:20 pictures with me all the time wow because I'm Dylan's dad shit I wish I was Dylan's dad that sounds like an easier gig but what do you do well I've been in insurance for 40 years and what I do is a little different than most insurance people I I'm more of just a rainmaker I go out and get the business rain on us baby I do I do do it and I shake a lot of of hands and you know what i say about you i um i say you do a lot of golf you play a lot of golf and you go to a lot of lunches a lot of mr a's yes they're good i think they're getting some as msum right now with this cookie situation and me eating it so vibrantly um you might be you're definitely the first insurance person on the show might be the only one depending on
Starting point is 00:14:06 where we take this maybe i don't know it could become an insurance podcast massachusetts mutual do you recommend insurance to those what of us watching or listening? Not really. I let people know that that's what I do. And if they have interest, they ask me. Because nothing worse than a... You don't want to be chasing them down. Pesky and insurance person. The worst. I've seen too many of them. Well, I think a big thing that I learned from you is actually networking. And I think that you know how to talk to basically anyone. Where did that part of you come from? Well, kind of a chameleon. I get that from James Francis Mulvaney senior who passed away about 10 years ago. Your grandfather, he was one of the great
Starting point is 00:14:48 networkers. I used to watch him at the baseball park. He was president of the San Diego Padres in the Pacific Coast League. And he'd walk up and down the aisles and he'd shake hands with everybody there. Anyone at the baseball game. Everybody. And I just want to sit there and go, I want to be just like my dad. And that's kind of where I've never met a stranger. I look. You know them already. Well, I introduce myself in elevators so people think I'm kind of weird. But, you know, that's all right. But now you hand out cookies along with that.
Starting point is 00:15:20 That's part of the deal. It's my cookies. I sometimes feel weird when we're like on a beach and who walks up to like a hot mom with a kid and just offers the kid a cookie. And she's like, what the fuck are you trying to offer my kid right now? Is it, you know, because they kind of do look like pot cookies. Stranger danger. They give pot vibes.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Oh, God. I've had to tell people I went to Betty Ford. But I will say if people still indulge, they can do that and then eat them and they'll still really enjoy them. Oh, yeah, the world's greatest chocolate chip cookie. But you spend a lot on macadamia nuts every year. Oh, I spend over, I write off over $10,000 a year in cookie material. A lot of those are macadamia nuts.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Those prices are just being gouged for those of us at the Dillon Hour who aren't aware. Justice for macadamia nut prices. Oh, it's crazy. And what you do something very special with the cookies, which is you put your own. own kind of ingredient into it that you make. I go to Bora Bora. I was saying twice a year and I bring home my own vanilla beans. And then I stuff them in spiced rum, which is Captain Morgan's.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And it's funny because every time I leave Costco with one of those, I usually run into somebody in my program. And they're like, Jim, what's the Captain Morgan's going home with you for? But then I have to explain, well, I make my own vanilla. And that's one of the secrets of the cookies. ingredients and people are you've written that you kind of just eyeball it every time right oh i i you were we talked about giving out my recipe but i'd be glad to but it's all right up in here so anybody would like they have to come over to the house and watch me make them sometime well i'm that's a
Starting point is 00:16:55 that's a big invite because who knows when and how many are going to show up you know who wanted to see it was your friend that the wilson uh what oh carney wilson from the wilson and phillips band she wants it yep she wants to well carrie Ronnie Wilson, you and the internet have been invited to my house. Well, not my house, my dad's house, because... Alpine, California, here we come. Oh, honey, you live far away. I know, but it's where you were bored.
Starting point is 00:17:20 You've got to come back someday. Let's go back to the origin. Okay. We're from San Diego, California. Correct. How would you explain San Diego? Well, it's a beach town. I grew up in Pacific Beach, La Jolla.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And then I just got around San Diego because of, you know, I was a messenger for company when I was very young, but how would I explain, Sandio, kick back, if the waves are good, you know, the football and baseball team don't attract anybody. I think of it as like the conservative L.A. Like, it's like a, the farther away from the beach you get, the more that they don't like gay people. But that you're a testament to the fact that that's not true, because you moved really far from the beach. You do like gay people. Now, if you just stop calling me every time you meet a gay person and say, hey, do you know this person? I say, no, dad.
Starting point is 00:18:08 No, that's not. And now we've shifted now from that. Now it's if you do meet a trans person. It's, hey, you know this trans person? I'm sorry. No, I love it. I just think it's something that I'm proud of and it's never going to go away. And I'm just blessed that I have you in my life.
Starting point is 00:18:25 You're such a good, good influence on so many people and you're full of joy. What bothers me sometimes is when the person asks me, she's not real, is she? This is fake, isn't it? Oh, you're like, yeah, she's a bitch. She gave me the middle finger when she was six, and I've been mad at her ever since. Oh, when you were five, we'd go to the pool, and I'd throw you up, and you do spins. Speaking of, on a little blast from the past, I have some pictures of us. Well, then you'd take bows to the crowd, and, you know, everybody was like, she's going to be so famous.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Here's at Disneyland. I think you got stung by a bee that day. Well, that was probably the before bee sting. Yeah, yeah. Here's you, that looks like a pool throw, but that was pre-pool. And then I think there's some sort of same, where do you think that is? I think it's up maybe in, up in, is that you in there? That's me.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Wow. I think it might have been up in Eurek, not Eureka, but Redding, California with your mother's, fathers, mom and dad's place. Wow. I've seen that one. But so I grew up in a very tiny town of San Diego called Alpine. outside i mean it's very small right it's getting a little bigger but not much um and you know you you would sing in the choir we go to church at queen of angels shepherd me oh god beyond my wants beyond my fears that was great um and you just so i do think maybe i got the singing from you a little bit and uh as far as like
Starting point is 00:19:59 you grew up very catholic yeah but you know i'd rather surf than go to church so we ditched a lot and you know i big family big family there's seven of us i'm number five and i don't try it all that's my line but i got jim junior which was a real real pleasure they saved that one for you said no no melinda was first that tom and bob the twins larry third my brother my father's brother had a son name uh that he named jim after my father so my father was obligated to name his next son larry and then along came jimmy and then along came jimmy and then And then David and Brian. You got a song for everything.
Starting point is 00:20:36 My favorite thing, my best friend Lily, who will be on the pod, is she walks into a room and you go, do it, Lily. Do the Zampooji. And I've refused to believe that this is a real song that exists. It's an old old song. You can give this man anything and he will find a song for it. You tell Lily, I'm not happy with her. She's not returning my phone calls. Same, girl.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Same. But it is what I've loved to is you've now developed friendships. with my friends. You know, they're like your kids. Oh, yeah, they love my, we just were in Scotland and it was so fun to be with them all. And, uh, well, I got to tell you that, uh, you came to visit. And sometimes, I think because growing up, you know, queer and trans, especially, you know, coming out to you all, I felt really guilty about making you, um, you know, call me your daughter, or call me a woman or she. And I think that there was part of me that wanted to pull away a little bit from the family because it um it just i felt like i would start to shut down and and sometimes
Starting point is 00:21:41 i get i think i get anxiety sometimes having family around just because i feel like i have to you know i want to make sure you're taking care of and i got you know i was at work um but you came to visit it was so funny because like the first day you came and i'm like doing this one woman show getting and i'm a little anxious but excited to see you and then by the i remember the last day we went to Glasgow. I had a fitting for a TV show and then we went to this musical together and by the end I was like, oh my God, this is my best friend. And so I did want to tell you that you, you've been calling me your best friend for a long time, but you're officially are, you're on best friend level here. And I do think it's really cool when you as a kid then finally see a parent as like, as a friend
Starting point is 00:22:25 and as a human because I think for a long time, you know, like the dynamics are tricky because you know you're the well you never really reprimanded me that much um but i i think that i had uh trouble seeing you as an equal human being and because you were always this father figure and now i'm like oh this is the coolest person in the world you're much brighter than me i've got a as good if not a better personality sometimes but oh yeah yeah drag me bitch drag me jimmy oh you're the best um but i i what i don't understand is with a lot of these haters out there when they want to tell you something
Starting point is 00:23:06 and you're just kind of you're just like what are you pay are you paying their bills or you why did why do they have to give a shit about you know what you're well you are on you only have Instagram to follow me correct yeah okay so you've got like one follower
Starting point is 00:23:22 that's it that's it now if I ever went on it I'd have thousands I think well this would be your opportunity but I don't know if we want to really open that up right now we don't No, got a chance. And what's it been like for you to watch me kind of get blown up in this, you know, like the positives of it and the negatives? The positives is I've never been prouder in my life about anybody and anybody that I've been around.
Starting point is 00:23:49 The negatives are having the assholes coming up to me and asking me, you know, is she had a sex change or is she this and that? And I, what my comment is, well, it's none of my business, so it's obviously none of your business. How crazy to think that, like, people feel comfortable enough to walk up to someone's parent and be like, so what's going on down there? You know, that's, like, actually really disgusting. It is disgusting. And it's only, it's usually just the macho male that does that. No female is, I think, I can't remember a female doing it. But, you know, I'm just proud of the love.
Starting point is 00:24:25 A woman, you know, not wanting to objectify another woman. But have you found that your, you know, friends and community and family have, like, kind of been supportive of me? Very much so. And if they're not, then they're going to have the wrath of Jimmy here. And that's not a pretty thing. But, yeah, no, my Rotarians, the women and my Rotary want to know what you're doing all the time. They want to know what they can do to support. What is Rotary?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Rotary is a group that started back in the early 1900s in Chicago. Mine is in downtown San Diego. It's giving rich. No, it's not. It's giving back to the community. It's doing good work and helping others that aren't as blessed as we are. You do breakfasts? Every Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I just had the chief of police who's my good friend in San Diego, Scott Wall, speak to us this week. And I got to introduce them. So I introduced them. I started off by saying, hi, I'm Jim. I'm a Gemini. Got a little laugh, but more so I said, this is Scott, or my probation officer, and I got a good laugh, too. Was he actually? No, he's the chief of police.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Well, let's go back to, because here's the real deal. You used to be a bad boy. Oh, I, my 20s and 30. Oh, bad, bad boy. Is that still in you? Oh, definitely. I'm, you know, I'm blessed now that I'm clean and sober. You didn't go to college, but.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I got the greatest woman in my life there. you but so you were um i feel like at the time where you you didn't go to college but you still killed it in the game done real well in the business world and insurance but kind of the last of the era for like you could probably get away with that you know most people have to go through a lot of interviews and i never had to do an interview and got that personality babes work for them and yeah no i've i've always been a hard worker just like you are but uh more importantly i've i've done you know I feel as though I've done things properly. I always think about my client instead of thinking about what's best for me.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I think about what's best for you. And that still scares me a lot. It's one of those worries in my life that some haters going to do something that I'm going to have to do something about. And so that scares me. Well, we've made it this far. You also used to be kind of a ladies man back in the day. and yeah i'm trying to make this a good podcast bitch so sex sales baby sex sales baby um do you have it like um it's sort of interesting now i'm dating straight men um like what did you what were your
Starting point is 00:27:06 qualities of a woman that you really enjoyed back in the day wow oh it's tough because when i was drinking and drug and i didn't give a shit i just wanted to get in their pants and uh i think uh you know With you, one of the things I learned later on was I would walk up to a pretty woman and I'd hand him a business card and I'd say, would you like to have lunch with me sometime? I'd love the opportunity to meet you. And, you know, and out of the five business cards, I'd get one or two, you know, calling me back. Well, lunch is a nice touch because it doesn't seem assuming. You know, it's like, oh, this man just wants to go out at a reasonable hour of daytime. I see right through you. And then when they, now I've, but now I'm, like I've told you, I'm in love and I'm very, very blessed. I'm done. And, but I, in the past, it's been, you know, I was, it was a, you know, I just was not the good person that I am today because I learned that. You're still friends with a lot of your exes, which is a really cool.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Oh, yes. Your mother's one of my favorite people and my first wife, Tracy's. what's the secret to that um just being kind and thoughtful and understanding listening uh and as you know i used to always just want to hear myself talk and now i'm getting better with the now you can you can listen to this episode and there you are oh boy how about uh like oh as far as like qualities like say that i'm trying to uh you know i'm seeing a guy and he's kind of like maybe like you were back in the day kind of a player um what's some things that a woman can do to really like grab your attention i think it's probably personality um
Starting point is 00:29:01 it's uh you know not being a a dormant uh you know not being somebody that they can you know have you ever heard gay son or thought daughter no okay so dad gay son or thought daughter is now sort of the question on everyone's lips here in the industry because when you get on a red carpet, this is actually a really good question for tonight. Would you rather have a gay son or do you know what a thought daughter is?
Starting point is 00:29:27 No. What does thought mean? It's, um, Megan, can you Google the definition of thought? So dad, dad, gay son or thought daughter? Gay son, you know what that is. Thought daughter is a daughter who likes to be promiscuous and get around town.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I'd rather the gay son. Wow, and now you've had both. So that's pretty fucking cool. I will say you're welcome. And you only have one kid. Yeah, no, and I've got the greatest boy and now the greatest girl. That's pretty crazy, too, as you can say, okay, let's go back to the gay Sundays. No, I got a question for you.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Am I going to have to pay for the wedding if it ever comes up? You do. And I'm nervous about that because my taste has gone up exponentially. Well, let's talk about when you created a monster. because we were in San Francisco on a trip and we were going shopping at the mall this is when I was just wearing like hammy downs gap like you could throw me
Starting point is 00:30:23 an old Navy or Costco I didn't give a shit what happened though I was probably about eight or nine and we're walking by Abercrombie kids in the mall up in San Francisco and I and you're like I was like oh I heard about this for my friends and you're like let's go in we look and there was like a sweatshirt that was like $120 and and I go
Starting point is 00:30:43 oh my god we can't get this it's too much and you said you know what let's get it dill you can do it and in that moment a fucking fashion demon was born oh no because i then became addicted to abercrombie and then it just kept spiraling but um i i do think we had so much fun when i was young that like blueberry burberry oh honey the amount like my i'll never forget my dad like got me a scarf He couldn't believe that he spent $500 on a scarf. This was like maybe two years ago. And he's like, I got her the damn blueberry scarf. I'm like, what the fuck is blueberry?
Starting point is 00:31:23 And he's like, blueberry. And I'm like, burberry. Yeah, whatever it was. You're the new, like, face. I can't book a campaign with them and they instantly make you the face of blueberry. I hope so. You are the face. That's so good.
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Starting point is 00:37:22 Growing up, like you obviously, I feel like had a very specific, like when you were told you were having a son, which you didn't, did you know you wanted kids? No, it was a, it was your mother surprised me on my 40th birthday scene. she was pregnant and i'm like you gotta be kidding so greatest day of my life was the day you were born though but i uh i yes i went and cleaned the baseball fields thinking that you were gonna be a baseball star how did that go well for me it was fine i was you know doing something on a saturday that with these men and yeah it was good but then and then but i didn't know you didn't want to be a baseball player you wanted to sing and dance on the coffee table well wherever you want you know you
Starting point is 00:38:03 You wore mommy's high heels around and played with dolls, and then you got the easy bake oven. When you were a kid, I would take you to different functions where you'd try out for plays. And every time the director would come up to me and say that you were the best person, the best actor, the best kid. Honey, I wish they'd start doing that today. Maybe I've got to start bringing you to the auditions.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Oh, no, come on. They're going to, you're doing whatever you want. But, so you obviously thought that, you know, life was going to be one way. What do you, like, do you have any advice for someone who is, you know, maybe struggling that, like, has what they thought their kid was going to be like and then turns out some kind of other way? What would you say to them? Yeah. What I do get a lot of that, especially in one of the programs I'm in. And my advice is just love, respect, listen.
Starting point is 00:39:03 things I try to do with you and I know sometimes I don't and you accept me for some of the shortcomings that I have but yeah I just tell people it's it's it's uh it's love you just have to deal with your some of your thoughts that are not the the thoughts that you should have and be proud and uh yeah and I'm you never I've there's nobody prouder than your father is of you so and i always will be um thank you um i think that you know what you've done such a great job of is like turn you know you've had opinions about certain things and been able to you know shift those based on how life you know goes and um i think we've always tried to hold a good respect for each other when we do differ on opinions um and i'm conservative and
Starting point is 00:39:59 you're liberal but yeah we're working on that on you too i again i'm more down the middle of street now because I know what the right wants to do and well that what was it like to see the people that you know your watch your you know your television programs then talk about your kid what was that like oh fox and and yeah it was brutal and uh I wanted to call those guys up and tell them that they don't know my daughter and uh you know get off of it because you're you're barking up the wrong tree and uh well I think it's really sad like when you know like what what that made me realize too because I kind of was watching almost through your eyes was how clearly people can paint someone almost to be like a character on a tent like when I watched myself during
Starting point is 00:40:44 that time when you know was being attacked by people that you may be used to respect um it felt like they were talking about like a character like because it it didn't sound like me no it didn't and it wasn't you and uh they just didn't know you and and I think that's so true about all of the you know the dnns and the foxes i just can't watch any of it anymore i that's why i'm going to bora bora for the month of october so i don't have to listen to you love bora oh i do and so do you i do love me some bora i'll take morea bora they have the the ray rays there that oh there's a large trans community oh it's beautiful it's kind of iconic it is i got there it was like nothing i was like wow they've really got they've got something figured out over here way
Starting point is 00:41:32 ahead of us. And I would take the dance classes. Oh, that was classic. I've got the video of you dancing with those, with all of them, and they, uh, they just loved you. Having a gay son, what, like, what was that, like me growing up was I, I was a pretty good kid and then I got kind of like angsty over the years, right? Yeah, I don't, I remember you and Lily going at it up there in the room, and maybe you had a bunch of other people up there. But can you, like, not going, going addict sounds very presumptive. Oh, no, okay. You were, it was like the two of you were fighting, And you would be sound like... Me and my best friend liked to wrestle, okay?
Starting point is 00:42:04 And it was like cats and dogs, and people would be there most of the time. A girl with me would be going, what's going on up there? And I'm like, you know, it's just... Can I, can we have some confessions here? I turned your house into a fucking brothel. Did you? Well, I mean, sometimes, you know, if you went out of town a lot. At a bit, yes.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Did you remember the time? Do you remember when you, for my birthday present, for my birthday present, for my, my 18th birthday was you let me have the house for the night and then you left but then you came back too early in the morning because the party was still kind of going and you couldn't get into your bedroom and my friend was sleeping with a guy in your bed didn't go over big I see this red carpet is very warranted tonight you deserve the world sir um yeah and it was just it was fun though because I I feel like um in a way I think because I because I wasn't super confi like i i i kind of moved through the world as i i wanted to i i didn't feel
Starting point is 00:43:09 like um ever like i wanted to lash out at you in like really negative ways because i was being like it was almost good to have that kind of environment where i um you know could be who i wanted to be most of the time and i was who i wanted to be and that's why we were we had a good time i love I love traveling with you, too, so that's what of it was. And you got me to scuba diving, which we like to do. What's the next on the bucket list for a place? This is also, you're kind of a man of habit. You like to, you know, you like one or two things.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I just went to Scotland. Oh, honey, you went to Scotland. That was great. That was great. But usually you wouldn't have gone if I hadn't been there doing something. Probably not. But I'll do anything with you. Where would you like to go if somebody was just like, we're going here?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Greece would be probably a good one. Greece. The Mediterranean. We did that when you were 14 or 13. I took Dylan to the Rolling Stones concert in Rome, and we sat in the second row. We got to have dinner where Charlie Watts, the drummer, walked past me, and you didn't have a clue who any of these guys were. Still don't. You do like the stones, though.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah. Sure. But they're the greatest rock and roll band in the world. And, but just things that we were able to do. Get it out there. Yeah, I'll get it out there. We've seen them with a whole bunch. But just, you know, being with you different in Bora Bora is a fun one.
Starting point is 00:44:40 But I do understand what you're saying that I don't travel to different places enough. No, but it's, maybe Ireland would be fun. I think a creature of habit is not necessarily a bad thing. And if it helps keep you sober and you've got your, you know, you get in your rhythms. What else? Your, walk us through your day. What is it? It starts early.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Oh, 4.30. I get to the gym at five every day. Damn, man. You know, then I hit a meeting at seven for a program I'm in, and then I go to a 10 o'clock business lunch, or usually an appointment, and I've got a 12 o'clock lunch at someplace. Most of the time, Mr. A's in San Diego, a nice spot.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And then I try to be home by two or so. You love the beach. Do love the beach. During the summer, I'm always down at a place called Hortier. shoe or 22nd Street in front of Trevor's house. Now everybody knows where Jimmy Mulvaney hangs out. It's okay. I don't care. Let them come at me if they want to, and if anybody does come at me. That's where it's diverting them from my home to yours.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Yeah, well, that's all right. But I'll, no, what I'm going to tell them, basically, is if they want to know what Dylan Mulvaney thinks and wants and acts, and I'll say, talk to Dylan. Oh, good. I can't be. I'll talk to them. I know you will. And what has been your favorite year of your life so far? Wow. That's a crazy, crazy question. I think this year, because, you know, I'm healthy, I'm happy. I'm married to the most beautiful woman in the world that's keeping me in a much better place than I used to be. I'm getting to be more thoughtful and more understanding. I'm getting more patience. because of you and your help you've given me all over these years of slowing down because I'm ADHD, I'm dyslexic. I got that from me. I got a lot of guys. I just was looking at a green light down there on a
Starting point is 00:46:37 meter and Jen's like, you've got to be kidding me. That's as red as blood. And I'm like, oh, it looks green to me. I'm color, I'm color buying too. Oh, yeah. Wow, I got a lot of things from you. Damn. Yeah, you got your mommy too. She's a crazy one. Yeah, two Gemini's, double Gemini parents. That's wild. Oh, my God. I could see a Gemini. I forgot that.
Starting point is 00:46:59 But you, and then you used to party with fun people back in the day. Oh, my party. You know what story I love. Tom Cruise? No. Stevie. The. Fleetwood Mac?
Starting point is 00:47:11 Do you know that one? The one at Fleetwood, where I ran into Nick Fleetwood at the Costco? No, it's Stevie Nick. Oh, Stevie Nicks where I was puffing a joint. We were going down the freeway, and Stevie Nix is in a, a live. limo, and she pulls, she rolls down her window. But you're smoking a doobie in a, in like a convertible or something. In an old B-DFVW right on I-5, and the, you were headed to.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I had the Fleetwood Mac concert, but I had no idea who they were, and they said, pull over. So we pulled over in this parking lot. We puffed this joint with these two pretty women, and then I said, we're going to the Fleetwood Mac concert, and they said, oh, so we just follow us. So we follow them down. We go into the back stage. They let us in because the girls in the limo said, let them in. And then we go in and we're standing there. And all of a sudden, Stevie Nixon, Step McVee, walk up on the stage and start singing, you know, Rihanna.
Starting point is 00:48:09 You got the Fleetwood Mac Stone before the show. Oh, yeah. I got the girl's stone. It's epic. Yeah. Got a lot of great stories like that. But that's just because, you know, hanging out. Any others that you love?
Starting point is 00:48:20 Well, the Tom Cruise story was good. I met Tom at the, at Georgia's when he was doing a restaurant bar in La Hoya when he was doing the, oh, the first top gun. Oh, top gun. Yeah. And I said, walked over. I said, Tom, I loved you in risky business when you slid across the floor. And he said, yeah, that was fun. And I was there with my harem and a bunch of peeps.
Starting point is 00:48:45 And he says to me, what are you doing tonight? And I said, I'm going to go to Diego's down in PV. And he goes, hey, do you mind if I hang out? with you so we like do you mind yeah exactly you like not at all Tom oh yeah no but he was fun and he just was a nice man and he had to go back to his hotel probably around 11 and i was probably out till six in the morning so you know yeah do you remember the day that i came you were leaving for work and i was walking in and we kind of high-fived on the way on the stairs didn't bother me you did have an idea for transparent transparent yes what is that
Starting point is 00:49:22 Well, it would be a situation where people could, I would interview like you're doing to me right now. Who would you interview? Parents that have trans children. If that's not the most beautiful thing you've heard today, keep going. Well, I just think it would be great because that way we can talk about, you know, what we deal with and how things are, you know, going. Okay, well, it's practice. What would you ask me right now, just as an interviewer, what would you ask me? I would say, what's the toughest part of having a trans daughter?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Well, having a trans daughter for me, that was good, Dad. Okay, we've got a show. Scoot over, Dylan. We got Jim coming in. No, James Francis, I'm going to leave it up to you because I'm just happy being your mom. But, and as far as like, did you kind of, like, you saw that I was a very feminine kid. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And so was it like a super. surprised to you when i came out no not at all i i tell people i pretty much knew you were gay at five or six and then you saying to your mother and i you know mom dad i and i think you said it to her and she mentioned it to me that uh i think god made a mistake and put a girl in a boy's body and uh you know that was it you just have to embrace it you have to understand you know there's these things called chromosomes and you know these assholes in the world don't quite understand that and uh and like you said to me dill the other day a while back is dad what i'm doing right now is just like the gays 20 years ago 30 years ago and in 20 30 years it's going to be just the same hopefully if you know
Starting point is 00:51:07 we don't get our rights taken away they won't be taken away i'll kill somebody before that so you ever watched the handmaid's tale what did you watch the show the handmaids tale no Oh, that's a good one. I don't want to if it has something. You love TV. Yeah, I do. I do watch a lot. Netflix.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Netflix. And, yeah, they had the second season of Sylvester Stallone's Tulsa King came on last night. Yeah. I don't know that one. We have different tastes, but it was, I will say that after, during COVID, I moved back to your house for, I mean, I was there for a year. The best year ever. Best year. Oh, that's another thing.
Starting point is 00:51:46 By the way, I've taught you a lot of these little, these, you know, this, love you. No. Yes, that's me. Oh, fuck off. Fuck, yes. Not a straight white man trying to claim a trans woman's tagline. Oh, that's me all the way. Ask anybody.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Oh, and then recently, I've been asking you where you at on the. Happy scale. Oh, fuck. I go to, now I go, but you know who? I go up to like Academy Awards winners and I go, where you at on the happy scale? Good. That's good stuff. A lot of unhappy people. Oh, isn't that suck?
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yeah. I'm usually at eight, and now lately you've been a nine, and I'm a little jealous. Well, I'm getting up there, babe. And back to COVID times. With Jen also. Well, Jen was thank God because, and then, but the funny. So we moved back to this house. There was a whole top floor of this home that was the entire thing was just one room.
Starting point is 00:52:39 It was like a bowling alley. It was a bowling alley, and that was my bedroom because it didn't have a bathroom in it. And so... And I go three times a night, so... Yeah, you tell them. And, but I had your old California King bed or something. It looked like a pillow in this, like, blank room. And I would sit up there, and I would just eat popsicles all day long and watch, like, Twilight and Go More Girls.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And then I'd come down for dinner. And I would, I would sleep to, like, two. And then I'd walk down and there's... But before it's dark, he'd have every picnic basket. That's in Yellowstone Park. That's Yogi Bear. Okay, go ahead. Where did we get Yogi?
Starting point is 00:53:17 Two o'clock. You know, when you're working at two. And there's the connection. But that was such a funny time because I never thought I was going to ever live with you again like that. And but we watched, we re-watched Game of Thrones. That was my first. And every night we want to go, should we watch another one? Should we watch?
Starting point is 00:53:37 It's 10.30 and I got to get it before. Let's watch another one. Oh, my God. And we love Mrs. Maisel. Oh, she's the best. And now Rachel's a friend of mine. And we just, oh, we, that was a good, that was a connecting time. We get so excited about takeout and I would go on long runs.
Starting point is 00:53:53 That never happens anymore. No, you did a walk where you walked out of the sorges. Didn't that take like 14 miles or something? I thought you were going to die. I had nothing to live for. But I started transition. That's what you didn't really know was that upstairs. What was happening was a trans woman was cooking.
Starting point is 00:54:10 You know, the hair was growing. The, you know, I started estrogen. shortly after, and it was just, it was a good time. You also got your insurance license during that time. And that's, and now we're back on the insurance pod. Mulvaney and Mulvaney. Yeah, that'd be hot. Was once Mulvaney and son.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Who's going to do the dot in the eyes and crossing the T's? Neither of us. But, yeah, I got, because isn't it, if you ever pass away, then I take your business. You can get my, start my commissions. Dark as fuck. That's so American. America. That is so like... Well, now Jen's going to do the same.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Okay, so now me and Jen are splitting it is what... There you go. Everybody in the pod knows me and Jen are splitting the will. 50, that's it. Oh, shit. That's good. How about, do you... When are you going to buy me the house in Del Mar? When am I going to buy the house in Del Mar? That's right. But what about, as far as like, we've always talks about, like, if one of us is on life
Starting point is 00:55:12 supporter ever, we're going to pull the cords. Done. we talk to talk about that all the time but what we're going to do is give each other like a hundred a lot of drugs yes what kind do you want zanak is who worked maybe five i'd like oxy oh wow that's a that's a little much well hopefully we never have to do that for each other but i don't think i talk why am i talking about this on every podcast i want to be buried in a tree really where do you want your ashes uh borah borah poro shoe um maybe a little delmar Are you scared of death?
Starting point is 00:55:48 No. Me either. No, it's something that... Maybe that's the Mulvaney thing. We never... None of us are going to get out of here alive, that's for sure. But we had a good time while we were here. We've showed them how to do it.
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Starting point is 01:01:06 okay that's a song by hooty and the blowfish I'm gonna get ready to do it but I won't I just the things that took me a long time that I'm finally getting there now later in life and where am I I guess I'm on the seventh floor 10 floor 10th floor building I you know I don't know of what
Starting point is 01:01:26 as far as life's concerned oh oh that's spooky you're still way down on the bottom really yeah I feel like I've lived a lot of life man Yeah, well. I'm happy, though. Oh, you don't blame you. You do things.
Starting point is 01:01:40 And now, and I've exposed you to the musicals, Broadway musicals. What's your favorite? You know, that's a great one. I think it's got to be up there with the Wicked. Yep. That's one of your faves. God, I can tell you a story about that, but we don't have the time. I remember my first trip to New York with you, we traded, we'd go to a Yankee game during the day.
Starting point is 01:02:00 We went to three Yankee Padre games. And then we'd go to. Broadway show at night. We went and saw Avenue Q. Avenue Q. Oh man. Did the ladies think I was the
Starting point is 01:02:10 worst dad in the world? And then you also, I try to I want to lick pussy. You were going to take me to menopause the musical. And my mom got so pissed. She was like, you can't take her to that one to have it.
Starting point is 01:02:25 And honestly, I think that would have been kind of educational for us both. But definitely for me. Yeah. But you were much more mature than I was. You know, I was the old guy.
Starting point is 01:02:34 and you were the young kid and the ladies would be looking at me like damn Yankees I think we saw at the old globe Oh no wait was there There was a naked one Yeah that's not damn Yankees That's um take take me out was a play
Starting point is 01:02:46 What they guys were all showering in the bathroom Yeah and you know what I probably knew going in And I just sat there with a devilish grin Like you have no fucking idea What you took me to Oh I was you know I didn't care
Starting point is 01:02:58 I thought it was great It was an education for me And that's what's really been Great about our lives together is you have helped educate me to help me to be the man i am today which is a much better man than was 26 28 years ago before you showed up on this earth and uh thank you oh it's a fact i just uh you know i wouldn't be with this beautiful woman any you know i wouldn't have what i have um i now we've done a lot of oversharing today but we have a segment called
Starting point is 01:03:30 overshare don't care on the dillon hour and we're going to do a lightning round of questions for you. Are you ready? I'm ready. Okay, two minutes on the clock. Dream golf, foursome. Jack Nicholson, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods. Great.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Favorite part of sobriety? Oh, the fact I wake up every morning without a hangover and I'm not shaking like I used to. Favorite part about being a dad? Watching you grow and turning into the woman you've turned into. Least favorite part about being a dad. Keep putting out those $1,000 a month, the $2,000 a month that I needed to back when you were in your college days. Best advice you've ever gotten.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Stop drinking and drugging. You're killing yourself. Beach or mountains. Huh? Beach or mountains. Oh, beach, beats, beats. What would you exclaim if you stubbed your toe? Other fuck!
Starting point is 01:04:33 Early riser or night owl? Early, I used to be in the night owl, and I'd be watching the sun come up, but now I'm an early riser. Go-to dance move. Yeah. The roof is, you know. Raise the roof. Do you have a pet peeve? Assholes in this world that don't understand.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Drivers. Thank you. You're right there. No, that's the last question, and we think we should get into it. Honey. I can't drive. I drive great, but I just drive like my father. You get so mad.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Dear. I do. And I'm getting better. Put on your turn indicator. Oh, yeah. I know, just, you know, that's just one thing after another. But it's just like my pop did. You know, my mother would have fits driving with Jim, Jim, don't get so close to that car.
Starting point is 01:05:25 But, you know, I'm just, you know, that's part of us. I'm not going to say that I haven't been in an accident because they really haven't. You accept my transness. I accept your driving. Okay. Wow. How about, and you love skiing.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Do you remember? I've gotten hurt a few times with you up there. Oh, man. That was terrible. One of the one that we, late in the day, I took her down a black diamond. Black diamond. This way's quicker back to the, I'm sure it was. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:54 It was straight up and, it was a 90 degree angle. Next thing, you know, we're going down the bobsled. And then when she hit her head on a, getting off of a, tramp we didn't wear back then Pussies only wore helmets now they all wear helmets but I haven't been in a couple of years. I was wearing a helmet that day were you? Yeah. Oh thank God
Starting point is 01:06:13 and um because you and uncle were pushing off and sent me back into the lift and so by the time I jumped off it threw me into the building that was a toughie and that was on the cornice of mammoths
Starting point is 01:06:29 I will say tobogging down a mountain is a good time yeah I bet it was But, no, I think skiing's great. It's just when you get older, I just don't like the cold anymore. I don't like the cold fingers, the cold toes. We got to get a jacuzzi. Yeah. I always say that's when you made is when you have a jacuzzi.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Oh, we can put one out at that house. We have one out in the... It's a communal one. Yeah, that's kind of yucky, but, yeah, it's a... Does the pool still look, like, used to... Oh, it's nicer. Were you stoned when you'd throw me up in the air? All the time.
Starting point is 01:06:59 That's so. You can count on it. We used to go... Wake and baked. Jimmy. We'd go to the pool and he'd toss me up in the air and we'd do flips for all the people watching at the community pool. And then we'd go to the mall and go watch kids' movies. Yeah. Oh, that's a bummer about not having a kid around anymore because I have to rent a kid to go see, you know, I love the minions and, you know. He just wants to be able to go to the movie, you get to see a kid's movie in the movie theater without being judged.
Starting point is 01:07:29 What's the old guy doing in here? You're like, yeah, no, this is. That's your reading. level. Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't. Scooby-Doo. We loved it. I think third grade was the three worst years of my life.
Starting point is 01:07:42 That's good. Thank you. That's great. Yeah, my dad would say I'd come home with three Fs and a D and I'd say, dad, maybe I tried a little too hard in that one subject. Well, now we've got a last call confessional. A caller from the Dillon Hour, one of our followers, is going to say a little message. to us and we'll respond. Cool. Do we know them?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Not yet. Well, we don't know any strangers, do we? Too many. Hello, honey. This is my confession. The other day, I was in the West Village, and I was eating dinner, and you were sitting at the bar next to me with your friend, and I was too afraid to say hi
Starting point is 01:08:29 because I didn't want to bother you at dinner, but I have to say that it was the most exciting moment of my life. I don't even know the name of the restaurant. It was the Italian place. You were with your friend. We got the same pasta. You looked very beautiful. He had a black, sparkly dress on.
Starting point is 01:08:45 I was very excited. He was sitting right next to you with my friend at the bar. The most exciting moment of my whole life. And I wish I would have said hi. But you looked wonderful and beautiful. Thank you, friend. Did you hear that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:59 What kind of pasta? Oh, Chaccio Pepe. I remember it now. It was St. Imbrocious in the West Village in New York. And I remember seeing some eyes across the bar that maybe wanted to say hello. But you being the network king that you are, what would be your advice for someone to, like, to be able to feel like they can say hello to people? Just walk right up and say, I love you, Dylan. And, you know, you just have to remember that everybody's just a person.
Starting point is 01:09:32 We all put on our clothes the same way. We all, you know, but that is so nice. That's so sweet of what you just said because I run into it all the time when I'm out with Dylan where somebody will be like, oh, my God, we're in Bora Bora. And across the pool, this young girl, about 14, comes over and goes, Mom, Mom, it's Dylan. Dylan Mulvaney? And I'm like, yeah, how about dad? Well, this is your moment, honey. Yeah, that's all right.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Get ready. I want you just to have it. I don't need it. I've had a, my moment has been many, many, many times, but getting to watch you and the people, you know, that are so proud of you and what you're doing for the trans community and helping, you know, them realize that it's okay to be somebody that's, you know, because a lot of people,
Starting point is 01:10:25 want to just shut their doors and hide and and not you you're you're out there and uh and don't ever change because you know if you do you won't be the dillon molvaney that uh the world wants and needs and uh yeah just to keep doing what you're doing you don't change either well not too much now i'm working on it you've really i'm telling you you've um i've watched you evolved so much over these last few years and you're you're calmer you're kinder you're thoughtful you're you're You shop at other places than Costco. I think I got these certain, but Jen gets me everything. Wild socks, honey.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I love wild socks. I know it. And now we're going to go hit the carpet and we're going to hopefully have a great time tonight. Yeah. I know that you love L.A. And you would love to just live here and sit in traffic as much as you can. Oh, God, I hate it. But yes.
Starting point is 01:11:18 That is something, I feel like your condition in San Diego to, like, immediately hate L.A. Like, you just, everyone's condition that way. Well, it's because when I was a little kid, my mom and dad sent me up to Pasadena to stay with my aunt. And back when in the 70s and in the 60s, there was so much smog you couldn't breathe and your eyes would water and you'd be like miserable. And I literally thought my parents were torturing me when they sent me to L.A. And, you know, that, yeah, that pretty much started it. But the traffic is, it's tough. and I'm sure there's people that have helicopters
Starting point is 01:11:54 or something that don't worry about it, but... I'm not one of those. No, but you do take a lot of those, you know, ubers and stuff. I do love an Uber. I do love an Uber. Yeah, well, that's the way to do it, especially if you're ever drinking, and I know you don't drink too much,
Starting point is 01:12:09 but yeah, make sure anybody listening that there's ever a drop of alcohol in them, Uber it because it isn't worth it any other way. And I'll pay the bill if I have to. Oh, shit. So now we got them coming to your house. For cookies. They're sitting on the beach with you.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I make a great chicken parmesan, too. Oh, no. Would you ever do a vegan one for me? I don't think you could. What would vegan? I don't know. Tofu? Oh, I would try it, but it would not, I don't think it would be all that good.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Oh, my God. Maybe some, I do a good spaghetti squash and stuff. Oh, you know I don't like vegetables. Oh, this is a good way to wrap up. Did I always fucking hate healthy food growing up? Yes, you did, you were terrible. Oh, shit, tell them. I remember when you ate your first salad, I was so proud.
Starting point is 01:13:00 How old? Was I like 11? No, we were in Rome or someplace. I had to go to Caesar the place to eat a Caesar salad. We got you to eat that salad, and that was great. And then... Still the only salad I've eaten is Caesar. Then you liked shrimp, too.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Shrimp now and lobster. Well, but the shrimp, these shrimp they brought out, had the head still, on them in the crow claws oh bad it was like immediately get it away from me get it away from me and i'm like i couldn't believe that that's was you ordered shrimp and that's how they came we didn't we didn't know they were going to come that way but yeah you have i always eat i i just went to scotland jenn and i just went to scotland to see dylan in an incredible play called fagg and you were incredible that's going to broadway no doubt and i uh um we the one thing she asked us to bring her were cheese it's and i'm and my cookies but cheese it's
Starting point is 01:13:57 and i'm like oh boy and you brought them oh yeah big family box i love that was in my suitcase now i've got a few snacks over there that i have people bringing them bringing me back things percy pigs yeah i saw that um ate a lot of dominoes while i was there but i think you just took me to mcdonald's a lot when i was young i remember that was kind of the trade-off i hated it you know i i could stick me up in the, you know, I'd run in the hamster wheels. Oh, yeah. I could probably go out and get stoned. Yeah, and then you like McDonald's a little bit more. No, I actually stopped that when I, when you were probably about four or so. So, you know, I had to grow up and that's what you've helped me with is growing up and getting me more
Starting point is 01:14:35 mature. Yeah, but we're still kind of fun. Oh, I'm still just, yeah, Peter Pan all of our lives, baby, you know, I'll never grow up. I don't want to go to school. And everyone watching the Dillon Hour. This has been, I was going to say, Jim Mulvaney, where can they find you? They can't. No. That is my favorite part of this episode is the fact that you don't want them to. No.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Thank you. But I want to be your dad forever and ever. Oh, I want to be your kid forever. I just, I'm so proud of you. It's great. I love you. I love you. Okay, everyone.
Starting point is 01:15:15 And, oh, also an amazing organization that we both love is called the Trevor Project. And they donate to crisis services for queer youth that don't have accepting families like mine. So think about supporting them. We'll try to put a link in one of these bios. And Dylan did the day 365 in New York City was one of the great days of my life. I got to walk up and wasn't even rehearsed. I walked up on stage when she was giving a talk about the Trevor Project. and I just went up crying and I told her how proud I was.
Starting point is 01:15:51 And at first I go, what the fuck is he doing up here? We've been rehearsing this for weeks and we got a rogue dad. And then you hugged me and I really needed a hug. And I don't think you knew this, but that went really viral on TikTok. Oh, yeah, I sure it did. But it was mostly my back of my head and people were saying, why didn't you turn around? And I kept just saying, because I was crying so bad,
Starting point is 01:16:13 I didn't want everybody to see it. But I don't mind crying. And you make me cry. Well, the back of your head looked great, Dad. I cried three times. Still got a good head of hair. Hey, you got that going for you. Now, that's something in the Mulvaney family that's really working.
Starting point is 01:16:24 But I did, I got mine to, you know, mine started up here once upon a time and it's, we got it taken down here now. Yeah. Well, so one of my best friends says we got Kennedy hair. Hmm. Okay. I love you. Love you. Okay.
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