Podiots - Podiots: Episode 118 - Oh Michael
Episode Date: March 7, 2023Mikey's getting injured in musicals, Ben's attempting ACME assassinations, and Peter's talking to whales Donate £3 or more to get a shoutout and join the Pod Squad! - https://podiots.com/ Visit our... shop! - https://vidiotsofficial.com/shop ------------------- Subscribe for more and TELL YOUR FRIENDS! Support Ben and Peter: https://www.youtube.com/teamtriplejump YouTube: https://youtube.com/vidiotsofficial Podiots: https://vidiotsofficial.com Pod Squad: https://podiots.com Shop: https://vidiotsofficial.com/shop Twitch: https://twitch.tv/vidiotsofficial Twitter: https://twitter.com/VidiotsOfficial Facebook: https://facebook.com/vidiotsofficial Discord: https://vidiotsofficial.com/discord/ Site: https://vidiotsofficial.com/ Follow the gang on Twitter: Ben: @Confused_Dude Peter: @ThatPeterAustin Michael: @ParrotBoy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Who's going to do it?
I've got my head is completely empty right now
That's all I have to say
If he's going to drop this cold open all over the floor
Oh God, please no
No we can't do that to the people
I mean I'm just disappointed that I said
Lobby Babylonie while we weren't recording
I know
Damn it do you want to do it again
and we'll pretend.
Yeah, yeah.
This could be the cold open now.
We could be in it, if you like.
Is it not?
Well, who's to say?
What isn't a cold?
You mean, you'll pretend that I know.
Okay, I see.
You know, right, okay.
Hello?
Hey, guys.
Yes.
I see that the thread that we have done today for this episode
begins with a picture of a Mr. Blopby helium balloon.
Oh, yeah.
Inflatable.
More like, more like blobby Babylonie.
Am I right?
Oh my God, he's only fucking done it.
Oh, how do you come up with us, Peter?
Was that off the cuff?
It was off the cuff.
Oh, my word.
I fucking loved that.
Truly an honor to have you part of this group.
Hey, Peter, thank you.
Thank you for that.
Hey, that's all right.
You're welcome.
Everyone, thank you, Peter Austin.
Thank you, Peter Austin.
There we go.
Thank you, Peter Austin.
I don't.
Do we need to talk about anything else at this point,
or should we just play the music?
I don't really know.
Why not?
Yeah.
What else could we add?
Go for it.
We're on the tune, I guess.
It's a conversational podcast where we take some questions from you at home
and obey the law of the three urs, where everybody brings.
Erthing.
along to talk about. I'm Ben. I'm Peter. And I'm Michael. Hello, everybody. Oh, I stole your words there, Ben.
It's you that says hello first. I'll tell you what. That's okay. And that is okay.
That's okay. I'm actually all right with it. Good. Yeah, I thought I changed. Well, I didn't think I'd change
things up a bit. I just changed things up a bit without thinking. Just a renegade over there. Peter,
do you want to say hello as well? No, I'm not going to say it at all, actually. And that's,
That's how I'm changing it up.
I'm just going to...
I don't know what's going to happen next.
Yeah.
What an unpredictable podcast.
Michael, I understand you've been having
some minor issues this evening
at the time of recording.
Yeah.
All self-inflicted, though, so it's all good.
Just...
God, well, two days ago,
I was getting angry at my computer
because it was so slow,
so I dropped a lot of money
at the drop of a hat to buy a lot of new things,
and they all arrived today.
And I get so excited over,
well, new things coming,
especially PC parts
and so I looked at the clock
hmm it's 4pm
I've got potty it's in what
three hours I can totally rebuild the computer
by then and get everything installed
spoiler no I couldn't
and so now I'm doing
a little weirdly setup thing on my laptop
so if I sound a bit weird that's why
but we should be golden but hey
that's why I never let my hubris get the better
of me because it always
always blows up in my face
well and that's my story
you made it we're here
We're ready to record.
Peter, are you ready to record?
Yes.
I just can't wait to hear what this guy's going to fucking come up with next.
That's the bloody thing at the start.
That was unbelievable.
I think I've peaked, to be honest.
Yeah, pika Austin.
Yeah.
Oh, you're on it now.
Oh, my shit.
I was just trying to segue into the next section, but fucking hell.
Look, I'm bloody doing it too.
Somebody's graduated from the University of Peter Austin over here.
Oh, I've got my diploma.
So, it's kind of throw me off, actually.
I don't really know.
Michael, seeing as you said hello, I suppose, do you want to try and segue in?
I can't even remember what we do.
Is it Pod Squad?
I think so.
Hey, Ben.
Did you know that you can support this podcast?
Yes.
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Mikey, do you want to kick us off?
I'd absolutely love to.
We begin with Sir Chick, Sir Chick, Sir Chick by Dickin Cheezer.
I'm going to do that once more?
Sir Chick-Bee, Sir Chick-B Dickon.
Oh, well, there we go.
Sir Chick-Bick-Dick-N-Cheaser.
That's very good.
Cute.
Alexa, the engineer, Donak, 07, I'm bastard blobby.
A slap in the Jeremy, the, sorry, a slap in the jammy crumpet, not the Jeremy crumpet, that would be terrible.
The very miserly, the very, the very, the very miserly, Mr. General, what?
Miserly, I think.
Myzily, I think.
My, Jesus Christ.
Yeah, I think you're right.
The very miserly Mr. Generous.
Got that.
I want some crusher.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Stephen Scores, Lord Brotovich.
Peter enjoys racist yoghurt.
Oh, no.
Is there some backstory to that yogurt that we don't know.
It's presumably fru-fru-foo they're talking about there.
And I did a quick Google before we started recording to work out what that.
It was the toy.
It was the toy.
Remember the problematic potentially names?
Native American.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
I forgot that I'd specified some of the toy things, but yeah.
Without context, it's rather alarming.
God, it's fine, it's fine.
For real, have you seen this little fella?
And lastly, two, doing a gasey.
We've also got, this is Caroline, please divorce.
Margaret kills Mikey.
Finn Tristam, wants to lick Mikey's bookhole.
a bum hole
Wow
Let's get it right
bumhole
Woosey pussy
Pussy pussy
Mr Macca
King Charles
the third
who was very generous
and says
It's me your boy
Thanks
Cheers Charles
And is the past tense
of slingshot
Slangchat
Question mark
Yes I think it probably is
Wow
And finally we have
Blue Pooh Dabadie Dabadai
Eat your wheat a wick
Wicks
Eat your wheater wigs
Happy birthday Molly
I wipe my Ben
Sorry I wipe my bum like Ben does
Freddy doesn't though
B stop clenching your
Oh my God I can't even fucking speak
Be stop clenching your arse hole
German robot lady
Tickle all Pee Pee-P
We
What is fucking going on today?
Excuse me?
I dream of pegging Elmo's dad.
Okay.
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It's a strong ending.
That's my favourite.
That's my favourite too.
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You said that one was your favorite.
I think so, yeah.
Yeah, I'm in agreement.
Okay.
I enjoyed, I want some Crusher, because it reminded me that Crusher probably still exists.
Does it exist?
I never had Crusher.
Did you not?
No, are I missing out?
I'm not exactly sure.
It was a syrup you could add to milk.
And the adverts went, I want some Crusher, and they had like crazy cats.
Was it the neighbor's cat singing?
Yeah, pretty much.
Honestly, go watch an advert.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But we, I think I had one bottle my entire life as a child and it was, it was incredible.
What a treat.
I've never seen this before as far as I've ever seen Crusher.
You've not seen Crusher before, man.
Oh, I really want to try some now.
Yeah, it's still going.
Dalitie juice is the best, so why not make milkshake dilutee?
That's just, oh.
There we go.
I've got the Crusher commercial.
Would you like to see it?
Yeah.
It's pretty fucked up.
There we go.
See if you guys can react.
at the same time to it.
I'll try our best.
This was on TV for a moment.
Oh my God, it's like a fucking jingle cat
from Yog's cast.
Oh, I remember this.
Oh, I do remember this.
Oh, my God.
For the first time I've had to do
a YouTube video to the thread.
Incredible.
I mean, for those
for those who are not tuned in,
imagine a bunch of like PNG
cut out to cats banging on instruments
on a TV screen. That's what you've
got while I'm singing, what is it?
I want some crush a
glass of crusher. It's tough
enough to make
milk. Yeah, the cow
looks a bit upset about it.
How odd. Defiling his milk.
How dare they? Oh, well, look at this.
Threatens you as well.
That milk will crush you.
Look at this video that's in my
recommended in response to that
What's this?
Rhino, and then in brackets, rhinoceros, toy figure with sound.
And it's just the 50 second video of a toy rhino with rhino noises.
18,000 views.
What have they done to crack the algorithm?
They've got 36 subscribers, zero comments.
Why has that shown up for so many people?
I don't know.
What have they done?
Maybe it just curiosity gets everyone.
Like they've got you, Peter.
It's quite well shot, I would say.
I'll add that to the thread as well, just so you know, really throw off people waiting for the episode to come out.
I can see the tax for it.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of rhino stuff in there.
Rino, rhino, rhinoceros, rhinocerus, rhinoceritide.
Is that like multiple rhinoceros?
The genus or something.
Yeah, it's hard to say.
God, anyway, there we are.
Crusher. What a fun little detour we took down there. I enjoyed that. Peter, you've replied from your
personal account, I believe. Oh, good. Yeah, so I have. Threat. I want some Grosher. Grosha. It is the
neighbour's cat, though. You're right. It's very similar. Very similar voice. Okay, well, I've got some
questions here. Would you like the first one? Yes, please. Okay, here we go. Let me,
I'm really prepared. Let me just open it up. Here we are. So this is from Jared at Like a Glove 90,
on Twitter.
Jared did ask a question in this same tweet,
but I'm not going to ask that question
because I think the initial statement he provides
is a good jumping off point.
So do you remember when we were talking last episode
about the wikis?
You might be more specific.
The Yogs cast wikis. Oh, yeah.
Oh, the Yogs cast wikis, yes.
And we were talking about the quotes section
and so on and how it was all horribly out of date
and we asked people to update it.
Yeah.
Yeah. Well, Jared says, follow up from a few pods ago, more a statement, Mikey is known for more than noises. Shreddies, Wallace, dog wrap. And he says in brackets, right hand, left hand, right hand, give it a pet. Just to reassure you, Michael, that there were actual quotes that you did. You didn't just, you know, make farts.
Thank God.
But someone has actually now gone in, I'm not sure who, and updated all of our wickets.
not only to add more quotes, but to actually provide context for where the original quotes were
from. Oh, wow. So do you want to go and have a look at your wiki now, Mikey, and fill us in on
some of your most famous moments? Well, I mean, the top one, I think, is something that you
still reference to this day, Ben. How loud can I be in this lift? Oh, that's a classic, Michael.
We iterate on that one, even when you're not around. We'll say it to each other.
or to people who weren't there at the time,
just whatever the adjective is, you know,
how gluttonous can I be in this restaurant?
I didn't even say that on camera, did I?
No.
No, we just got into a lift and he said,
how loud can I be in this lift?
And then went,
Ngu-h!
Anyway, we'll continue with my other classics.
Triggerly seride, of course, has made it in there.
seeing me mother's gash i think that one was already in there wasn't it um you grew all together
and you're lying in bed together and yeties and neal turns to you slightly strained on his
face and says this is a heart attack and i like parrots holidays and bacon oh yes some of them
in there that's that's i mean that's genius i spurted as a child and that will never ever leave me i'll
never top it.
I'm just saying the three words of things I liked at the time.
Yeah.
Genius.
How about you, boys?
What you got?
I can't believe you cut it off before you got to.
I was thinking when you need a sound, I'll just come in and fart.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that is a golden one, isn't it?
Okay.
Well, you know what?
A lot of these quotes involve me being loud or farting, but there's words to accompany those actions.
Yes.
So I am more than just my farts.
Sometimes those farts come with words.
Do you feel better now?
Oh, so much better.
I'm going to look at this whenever I'm feeling down
and just giggle about myself.
Good.
Ben, what have you got?
I was just looking at some trivia,
and the last one is Ben and Peter were on a panel of
and then an inverted comma's experts.
Yeah, I've got that one.
Nominations stream in 2018.
Oh, God.
At time of writing, Peter Austin is
the only vidiot yet to be infected with COVID-19.
That's a good trivia.
That's a good trivia.
And the only married vidiot, it says.
Oh, man.
34 chicken dippers may seem like a lot.
Full stop.
Worst games ever cooking meal.
Pimpin ain't easy, but I think it's doable,
is another one from a worst games ever episode.
so yeah these have all been updated now thank you sir i tried to look at the edit history but i didn't know
how to do it so thank you whoever did this what else have you got peter well i've got one i think
this is from the original lot because it's up at the top of the list but i have no idea what this is
the quote is just remember something remember something that you couldn't read full stop
2018 i don't know what that is um but in terms of updated ones what have we got um
Me saying that cooking mama is attractive.
Oh, here's one.
Oh, yeah.
Well, kicking Hitler and shooting Nazis is a lot of fun, really.
That's a classic from BAFTA.
If you've got money, why don't you have a house?
Well, that's not accurate.
It's if you've got a phone, isn't it?
Oh, man.
I'll give you an inch, which is something that I said to you, Ben,
in Santa Claus Saves the Earth.
Yes.
this is another strange one
you can't just help a lady down the stairs
at the start of the day
and then just be an absolute cunt
for the rest of time
Peter
Polliates episode 25 clumpy grid
apparently
oh and if you play this game
you're a massive wussy pussy
from the Fortnite sandwich making challenge
we had wussy pussy donate today
we did we did have a wussy pussy
maybe they're responsible
Yeah. Oh, also, I suck knobs all the time from Pass Bar 2.
Good. Good. That's a classic.
All brilliant classic out of context quotes.
They've added a really nice bit. It's probably in yours as well, Peter, to the end of the general about section.
At the time of writing, Ben and Peter's channel Triple Jump has amassed over 250,000 subscribers and has a full team of writers and editors working to create entertaining and informative content about the video games industry.
Yeah.
I take a slight issue with one trivia bit that's now in mine
okay more that I just don't
if anyone Googles me and this is the first thing that comes up
I do not want to be represented by
around the time the channel launched Michael gave fellow yokes cast employee
Dave Brian a drunken lap dance in a nightclub in France
I mean you did it's the truth there's video of it on the internet
just because it's the truth that doesn't mean it has to be out there
It was consensual, I think, yeah.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, he was into it.
Yeah, good, good.
Well, there we are.
I just thought that would be interesting to revisit.
Thank you to the wonderful person or people who have been updating our wiki.
Please do keep updating it.
Yeah.
It's very cool.
It's good to see.
Yeah, thank you.
Who would like to do their thing first?
I could do my...
I could do my thing.
Yeah, I could do my thing.
I think I've not been last for like at least three episodes, so I'll go last if you, if you like.
Okay, that's very kind of you, Peter.
Well, you're welcome.
So I come today with a tale of a disastrous theatre experience like never imagined before.
So a couple of years ago, there was a little play going around,
and by all means it should have been a blockbuster smash hit, like sold out so much,
which been a right riot, but instead, here's the story of how it all went disastrously wrong.
It's been ten years since one of the most momentous nights of Glenn Burge's life.
He was already an established off-Broadway playwright and children's television writer,
but on 28th November 2010, a musical he had scripted had its first preview,
and it was shaping up to be an international smash.
The musical was Spider-Man,
Turn off the dark.
Oh, my goodness.
This is such an interesting story.
I did assume Spider-Boy would know about this play.
I don't.
It's a good one.
Buckle up.
I think I might have known there was a Spider-Man musical,
but that's literally all I know.
Is it a musical even?
It is a musical, yes, it is.
Well, get ready to learn all the little details about it
because it's a bit of a ride.
So its friendly neighbourhood title character
had been a beloved pop cultural icon for five decades at that point
and had just featured in three Hollywood blockbusters.
The songs were going to be written by rock and roll royalty,
U2's Bono and The Edge.
I don't know who The Edge is.
He's in U2.
He's also in U2, yeah, The Edge.
Do they all have funny little names in U2?
I don't know if they all do.
The others are called like Jeff and
I'm the edge
Anyway
The director was set to be
Julie Tamele who had masterminded
the record-breaking stage adaptation
of Disney's The Lion King
So surely with a predicate
Like that, nothing could go wrong
Right
But all this is not to say
That Berger wasn't nervous about the event
Setting up a whole new stage player
speaking to BBC culture from his home in upstate New York,
he remembers how strange it felt to be unveiling something
he and his collaborators had been devising together for years.
I quote,
we were opening the door either to Willy Wonka's chocolate factory
or to some sort of slaughterhouse.
That's a rich quote.
Well, no one dies, but there's a little bit of mild peril coming up.
The show relies.
on complicated aerial stunts in which the performers were suspended from wires. And so the first preview
was bound to keep stopping and starting as technical hitches were addressed. As you do, it's to be
expected as long as nothing's too insane. Everything was going relatively smoothly until the last few
seconds before the interval. I quote, then there was a flourish when Spider-Man flies off
through the audience towards the balcony. And for some reason,
he stopped mid-journey.
So you had Spider-Man dangling seven feet above the first two rows,
and it was in the worst possible position,
because no one could reach him at all.
One of the crew members fetched a stick to prod him with,
but that didn't help.
Prod, what's that going to do?
Come on, Spider-D, move along a bit.
It was like a live Spider-Man piñata, someone else said,
but we knew by the end of the night, well, that's the worst it's ever going to be.
We'll keep improving and improving on it, and it's going to be duck soup by the time we open in January.
Once again, famous last words there, friend, but I do like the idea of a per little actor being stuck in Spider-Man attire
up in the air above an auditorium.
That's a beautiful sight.
Very superhero-esque, isn't it?
Incredibly graceful, just like the real Spider-Man.
But it didn't end up working out like that in terms of everything getting better and getting better.
Before the first preview, Turnoff the Dark was already being gossiped about as a troubled enterprise.
Its initial lead producer and guiding light, Tony Adams, unfortunately had a fatal stroke in 2005 while in a meeting with The Edge.
Then after that, there was, of course, the financial crisis of 2007 and 2008, which had scared off all.
all the private investors. So that by the time it got to August 2009, the production found itself
$20 million short of cash. Oh, already looking a little, oh yeah, it's a stinger.
Already looking a bit grim, but we'll soldier on. Minor bumps in the road, I tell you. But the
bad luck didn't end there. In the months that followed the first preview, the official opening
was repeatedly postponed, while Berger and his colleagues dealt with bruising, embargo-defying
reviews, sackings, injuries and countless technical snags.
By May 2011, Turnoff the Dark had become so synonymous with theatrical disaster that a
headline in The Onion, the satirical newspaper, but we all know about that, don't you, Ben?
We know what that one is.
The Onion appeared to only be slightly exaggerating with the headline, nuclear bomb detonates
during rehearsal for Spider-Man Musical.
So, I mean, that's, I mean, that's, I mean, that's, I think that says a lot about the, the, the, the, um, the, the, the, the, of notoriety of that everyone knew that it was already a joke.
To the point where a satire website could kind of codedly refer to your play and people will find that funny.
Yeah.
Jeez, Louise.
The show did finally have its opening night in June 2011, but by then, its fate had already been effectively sealed.
And though its run continued.
for two and a half years when it closed
in January 2014
it had made a loss of
$60 million.
Oh God.
Owee! So yeah,
two years it was running
bleeding and bleeding and bleeding
money. Oh dear, not a good sight.
And by the way, losing $60 million
is a Broadway record, so it's record
breaking at least in some ways.
Hey, good for them.
Yeah, yeah.
This surefire hit
had become a legendary debacle.
I'm philosophical about all.
of it, says Berger. It might end up in my obituary, and I'm not too happy about that. But I'd rather
have Spider-Man on my resume than the Iraq War. Yeah, sure. I mean, most of us would.
The only thing I can think of that's worse than this is the Iraq War. Maybe that's not a ringing
indictment of your player then, isn't it? But let's get into the injuries now. There's the
context for you. Now let's get on to the Isley Grizzlies.
Actors, especially dancers in a Broadway musical, will often suffer minor injuries,
and Spider-Man is not unusual in that regard.
However, the show, which is said to have the most extensive,
computerized automation and special effects than any show on the Great White Way
has been plagued with a number of serious injuries, including the New York Times
reported that at the 15th of August 2013 performance of Spider-Man,
turn off the dark.
It was stopped at around 9 p.m.
during the second act as actor and performer,
Daniel Curry was injured on stage
and went to hospital for medical treatment.
One audience member, Melissa Kessler,
told the New York Times that the actor's leg
was pinned by a trap door
and appeared to have closed shut.
Ow!
Ow! Oh, God!
She goes on to say it in an interview
the floor looked completely closed on his leg
they brought out a privacy screen
and a lot of people on stage started getting things going
a stretcher was brought out
they were using a saw to cut a hole in the stage floor
to cut his leg off
I'm sorry I'm sorry guy this is a bad one
we're going to have to chop it off
surprised they didn't just come out and prod him again
John get the stick again he's stuck
it could have been really bad if he was trapped there for too long
he would have had to make himself sick
so that he wouldn't dehydrate.
I had my leg trapped in a trapdoor
on Spider-Man turn off the dark for one hour.
It was flat, I believe was a quote.
Flat leg.
I'm still so bewildered by that article,
but we digress, we digress.
We do.
On November 28th, 2010,
Natalie Mendoza, who played Arachny.
Arachne, I'm assuming.
as in a spiderous enemy
Arachny
I'm thinking of
Are you saying Iraqi
Is that a wee back to the war again
Iraq knee
As in arachnid
But with a knee
Right the dancer who got the leg stuck
Is that that's what you're doing?
No this is
This is
This is a new person
You sure this isn't the war
It might be
It all feels like the war now
I was going to say
Is it Arachnia
But that's from something else
I can't even think of that
Oh, that's from Beast Wars, so I don't know what the spider on one is,
but if it seems like arachny, then it's probably arachny.
Well, whoever this person is and the character that they played was,
sadly, they suffered a concussion when they were struck on the head
by a piece of rope that was holding production equipment,
which is quite a stunning injury, actually.
So I must have fling that at an incredible speed.
Hush.
On December 20th, 2010, Christopher W. Turney,
who performed stunts dressed as Spider-Man,
was admitted to intensive care
after falling several feet from a platform.
His injuries included a hairline skull fracture,
four broken ribs, a bruised lung,
internal bleeding and cracks in three lumbar vertebrae.
Tierney returned to the show five months later
after new safety procedures had been set out.
Oh God.
Wow, Jesus.
Oh, God.
In 2013, in February, Joshua Coback,
who replaced Christopher Christopher,
for W. Turney, filed papers to sue the production company for two herniated discs, a concussion,
whiplash and holes in both knees, injury he claims he received as a result of performing
in the show on equipment that had not been properly maintained.
Holes in both knees.
Yeah, that's a fun one.
I think, surely that's got to be a surgical thing and not an accident on the stage.
But, yeah, imagine that.
You come in to replace an actor who's been in.
injured and then in turn you get a boatload of injuries yourself good lord i'd hope yeah after
the first person left they'd say all right maybe let's pick things up a bit now but um yeah even
though they did do a safety recalibration it didn't work and lastly on the list that i have in front
to me there's probably more that only the production crew know about uh is on 16th of march
2011 tv carpio who replaced natalie mendoza in the role of arachny suffered unspecified
downstage injuries which led her to taking a two-week leave on doctor's orders.
I do believe there's videos of this online.
Is there, Ben?
I'm going to you, not Google.
For what?
Sorry, for...
For just, I think there's some Spider-Man stage accidents that were captured on video.
Oh, almost certainly.
Yeah, there's loads of compilations on YouTube.
I haven't actually watched any of those.
But I think probably you can see the whole show on YouTube if you want to them.
Probably, yes.
Sadly, it would be your only way of seeing it now.
But yes, it was.
was just fraught, fraught with calamity from start to finish
and sadly fizzled out and left a $60 million hole
for everyone else to clean up after the fact.
I do recommend giving it a Google
because there is a few quite funny clips.
Nothing bad, just the people tumbling over on stage.
Yeah, I think people went into the show
expecting accidents to happen,
so there's plenty of phone footage around there
if you want to look into it.
Man, well, I always sort of favorite web pages when I think it's something interesting that could do for a Pottie It's thing.
And I actually have one saved about this, which was doing the rounds.
Let's see.
Where it was February last year, actually, so quite a while ago.
But a viral TikTok has claimed that Imagine Dragons wrote songs for the Spider-Man musical.
So apparently they were briefly linked to the.
musical in 2013
and it all kind of starts
to make sense when you think
what their most famous song is
from that period?
What's the most famous Imagine Dragons
songs?
Radioactive.
Yes.
Oh yeah, of course.
Radioactive.
I don't know why I know so many lyrics to that song.
It is kind of a band.
It was everywhere.
But also, yeah,
radioactive by Imagine Dragons
has been linked to,
which would make sense
because, you know, he's got radioactive blood
and he was bitten by a radioactive spider.
So apparently the links are a bit tenuous,
but for their existing music
to have originally been planned for use in the show.
But yeah, they were involved at one point.
So there is a chance that radioactive,
there might be a little bit of truth to the fact
that radioactive by Imagine Dragons
was going to be part of Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark.
Oh, that would have been so cool.
And then became a global chart topic.
instead.
Oh, that's a, God, because it's not like players come for a season.
They tend to stay years if they do.
So imagine like four years down the line.
You're still singing, and an audience is still hearing radioactive long after the
hype died down.
Now it's just embarrassing.
You can't escape it.
But wow, what a fun walk down, horrible musical lane.
Thank you, my boy.
Oh, boy.
I really must stop bringing things that are just lists of injuries.
but my alternative thing was also a violent thing
so you got lucky this is the the calmer of the two
and now we go to Injury Corner with Michael Johnson
it's bad it's real bad
thank you very much boys
thank you would you like a question
yeah I am not we've certainly told some anecdotes
that related to hangovers but I don't know that we've ever actually been
straight up asked what is the worst hangover you have ever had
anything you did but couldn't remember in the morning
any huge life-changing mistakes whilst under the influence
and that's from Shreddie Murphy underscore Shreddy on Twitter
I mean I've talked about the gingerbread man that I ate
from Halford's Car Park
I assume that was probably one I can't remember a specific hangover
that was worse than any other I remember a few that were quite bad
but I don't know what the champion is but I'm sure I probably had a pretty bad
and after that. And then the other story that I've definitely told is that I was definitely
hung over when I, the one time that I had sleep paralysis and saw like a demon in my bedroom,
which wasn't a demon, it was a hallucination. But yeah, quickly, in case people don't know
the story, we were all really hungover. We were students. It was like a Sunday. And we were
sort of sleeping and napping all the way throughout the day. So our sleep patterns were all way
messed up and then by 8pm I was getting sleepy again and I went to bed and had like half an hour
and I was really disturbed like in bed like not sleeping well and when I opened my eyes the light was
still on because I'd been too uncomfortable to even get up and turn it off and I could see the
wardrobe door at the end of the room was open and way at the top of the door so you know six or
seven feet off the ground a small head leaned out a human head that was completely
Completely black, like it was, as in, like it had been in a chimney or something.
It was like a chimney sweep.
And then it just sort of went back into the wardrobe.
And then I was slowly able to move again.
And I was like, okay, that was just me having a waking nightmare.
I don't actually believe that there's anyone in there.
But it was pretty creepy.
Horrifying.
Yeah.
I would not be able to sleep for weeks after that.
My Lord.
Yeah.
It was, for some reason, the creepiest part about it was how tall.
it was like it wasn't just a six foot man it was just too just a little bit too tall to actually be
a head on it on shoulders it was like up in the air uh it was really strange horrible
goodness me i i must have told the story of the time when my american friend came to visit
and i drank so much that i sicked in my bed have i told that i don't think so you've mentioned
like falling down the stairs and trying to do a james bond roll and hurting a
shoulder just before idiots you picked up a seagull yeah you were at house party yeah with
alex who works with us right can we stop now please thank you i'm a mess i know well this i'll keep
it brief just in case i have told this one again but this is by far the worst i've ever been
and i still can't look at certain drinks because of it so yeah it was when my friend was
visiting from america so we thought we'd show them the tune show him a proper
night out. Do you guys remember Gotham in the center of town? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, we took him to
Gotham and we started getting in lots of shots and lots of other drinks. And on that night,
I think I must have just alternated between Newcastle brown ale and pure vodka all night long.
It would taste it great at the time. I was having a whale at the time. And yeah, I don't remember
much of the night after that. One of the glimmering highlights I do have is,
phoom from the inside of a chair in the club.
That was a lot.
It was like a chair that was ripped open.
I just reached and grabbed a bit of foam and had a nibble.
That wasn't good.
If you're going to eat any foam from a chair,
the last one you want to be eating from is from a club chair as well.
Like, at least eat a nice clean chair from somewhere.
Yeah.
You've got chair at home, Michael.
Yeah.
But I want foam now.
Anyway, after I eat the foam,
I proceed to black out completely
and the next thing I
like I have any memory of
is being at home in bed
I wake up open my eyes
I'm like oh God
oh I don't feel so good
and so just in this horrible
drunk sick state
I just vomit all over myself
and then I fall straight back to sleep
and the thing I wake up to on the morning
is just my mom saying
oh Michael
what more could she say
what do you say
that is that is the most
shameful thing I've ever done drunk
actually no maybe
pissing in the bottom drawer of my parents
wardrobe
oh Michael
that was sleepwalking
I swear to God that was sleepwalking
I had no recollection of doing that
my dad woke me up in the morning
went son have you pissed in the bottom of the wardrobe
I was like no
why would I do that
Paco couldn't reach
it.
Fair point.
I still don't remember doing it, but I'll take the blame for it, I guess.
Yes, I woke up with that stinking hangover, and I looked at my clock.
My American friend had already left to do things for the day because I think he realized
I was a lost cause.
And so I had to travel from my house to Newcastle in like this fastest time ever to attend
a dog cafe appointment we had.
I could not enjoy that day at all.
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Worst time ever, Ben?
Yeah, my worst, I don't think I've ever done anything on like a night out or while out when I, you know, was blacked out or anything that I necessarily regret.
Because even when I have gone out drinking, no matter how drunk I am, I have an almost sort of terminator like, what's the, what is the term I'm looking for?
Not constitution, but like tenacity for, like I have a mission, a single-minded mission, which is get home.
and like I'll put headphones in
I'll head down
I'll walk really fucking far
like the fastest you've seen
with such purpose
and I will get into my own bed
so help me God
like I've never not done that
apart from when I was at university
and it was my first year
and I think I may have told this story
on Podietz as well at some time
but I was drinking Sambuca
and I can't drink Sambuca anymore because of this
and I'd done several shots of Sambuca
because they were on offer at the student pub
the people I was drinking with
we then came back to the shared flat
and on the way picked up a bottle of Sambuca
we were drinking it
in the flat and then
I don't remember anything else and I wake up
sat in my office chair in front
of my desk and I have like
thrown up all down my
front, all over the front of the
desk, all over the top of the desk and
between my legs and stuff
I've never felt so horrible
my friend was coming to visit
or was already there and he was
asleep in my bed and I was just in my office chair. He, he was a hero and helped me clean up
as best as we could. I found, um, the empty bottle of Sambuca in the kitchen with a mug next to it,
which is apparently what we've been drinking. Which is what we've been drinking out of by the end
of the night. And I, um, I didn't feel, you know when you have one of those hangovers and you don't
feel right for days afterwards? Like, I was not, not well. Um,
but the most memorable one outside of that
I think is maybe when we went to
what's next to focus and pissed everyone off.
That did have consequences
because we were taking advantage of the open bar
and we got fucking wasted
and I did throw up
when we got back but I went to the toilet to do it
so that was okay. Oh, well done.
Oh, that was silly.
It was just a room for the professional journalist
talking and kind of getting on each other
networking and then like
here comes us with a treat
of as many beers as the bar would act
actually give us in one go.
Yeah, we all went up at the end and got like six each.
It was awful.
To be clear, there was a DJ playing music and the lights were down.
It wasn't like a conference room.
But yeah, we definitely, they were networking and talking over the music and we were just
going mad.
There's people there having professional discussions and there's Michael giving a lap
dance in the corner and the rest of us getting fucking trollied.
Well, and then we went out after that, didn't we?
We did.
Harris for a bit.
I actually blamed Dave for that a little bit.
I mean, it's our fault.
But, you know, everyone else was politely having one or two drinks
and then thinking, right, well, I am here to work.
So I'm going to go home and go back to the hotel and sleep
and then go to the event tomorrow and see some more games.
But Dave was there to network and, like, he got just as wasted as we did.
Oh, yeah.
He did.
He set the pierce and we matched it.
And as we have said numerous times, we were penciled in for slots the following morning
that we had not signed up for
and I didn't really know that we were
I think everything was written on the
on our schedule and we assumed
well these are the slots that we would have had
if we'd signed up for to see that game
kind of thing so it was written there but I don't
think we felt we were like oh well we told them we're not going
to that so that's just they know that we're not going
to that one yeah and then we were told
later you didn't turn up for your slots
what what do you mean
yeah they weren't yeah I remember how rough we felt the next day
and then we've got that little bit of video
on the actual vlog where both of us sound bassy as hell
and feel terrible.
I think we have some video of Michael Johnson jumping between a bed as well,
just falling between two beds.
That might be when we first arrived at the hotel, yeah.
Oh, God, I'm so sorry.
Michael didn't make it to the event venue before Peter and I did.
We waited for him downstairs in the hotel lobby for a bit and then gave up.
I remember waiting there for 80.
and it had an upside-down, like, toy cycle route on the ceiling.
There were all these little toy, like, train-set-sized toys of pedestrians and cyclists
on this, like, upside-down thing.
And we just sat there feeling bad.
And then, yeah, eventually we went.
It was pretty miserable, I must say.
Our apologies, once again, to the organizers of what's next to focus.
You are definitely...
No, they're not. They hate us.
we do maintain our innocence
and that we didn't sign up for all the stuff
that you signed us up for
but at the same time you threw a fantastic event
but maybe have a drink limit next time
because we ruined it for everyone.
Maybe this wouldn't have happened
if they let us touch the cows
and the farming simulator exhibit.
My God, why didn't they let's touch the cows?
We had a great time though.
I mean like we read.
I had a, it's one of my favourite
certainly work-related nights out I've ever had.
Yeah.
Again, calling it a night out.
It was a business networking event.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then we had a racist taxi driver on the way back to the hotel, which was terrible.
Oh, yeah.
And when we were trying to get, I think Dave tried to book like four cars to get us back to the hotel on the night out.
And they were like all calling him and yelling at him.
And then we got him one.
And Dave was trying to communicate to the driver by just saying the name of footballers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the most British thing I've ever heard.
Well, he's not technically not British, but still, oh.
It was amazing.
That's so good.
It was really funny.
Anyway, it's time for a thing.
Yeah.
I've got a thing.
Go for it.
I saw this the other day, and I found an article about it.
Seven bizarre ways the US tried to kill or topple Fidel Castro.
Oh.
Nice.
I hope you're ready to learn.
This is an older article by Dylan Matthews on Vox.com.
from the 26th of November 2016, which I believe was shortly in the wake of Castro's actual death.
Ah, yeah.
So, here we are.
After years of avoiding assassination attempts by the US government, Fidel Castro died at age 90 on Friday at the end of a decade of dealing with illness.
Castro's longevity may even seem like the final act of defiance against the United States,
which became his adversary since he first took power in Cuba in the late 1950s.
The botched US-backed 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion meant to topple,
Castro could have ended in his death, but most other attempts involved more subterfuge and spycraft.
Apparently, there were 634 attempts on his life.
Jesus.
From the CIA, Cuban exiles and others, but the count is quite possibly high.
He counts 21 attempts under Bill Clinton, whose administration wouldn't have had much motive after the end of the Cold War, says the article.
Anyway, first up, the poisoned cigar.
Probably the most famous attempt on Castro's life, the cigar plot, originally.
originated in 1960 towards the end of the Eisenhower administration.
A notation in the records of the operations division, CIA's Office of Medical Services,
indicates that on August the 16th, 1960, an official was given a box of Castro's favorite cigars
with instructions to treat them with lethal poison.
The cigars were contaminated with botulinum, maybe, toxin.
Not botulism.
Hmm?
Not botulism?
B-O-T-U-L-I-N-U-N.
It might be a related word, yeah
botulism is like
it's a disease, isn't it, that you can get
but botulinum, I don't know.
Botulinum, a botulinum toxin, not sure,
so potent that a person would die
after putting one in his mouth.
The official reports
that the cigars were ready
on October the 7th, 1960.
Skippa-bba-bah, skipping ahead
because it's giving me some more details.
Notes indicate that they were delivered
to an unidentified person on February the 13th,
The record does not disclose whether an attempt was made to pass the cigars to Castro.
There's a popular belief that the CIA also tried to give Castro an exploding cigar.
But this is much more poorly documented and some historians believe it to be to merely be an urban legend.
It's just a dynamite stick pin.
Like wily coyote.
Yeah.
Number two, the Mafia ice cream plot.
Oh my God.
In mid-March, 1961, Mafia contacts of the Ciguan.
CIA came the closest of anyone to carrying out an assassination.
They gave poison pills and thousands of dollars to one of the CIA's most prominent Cubans,
Tony Verona.
Verona managed to hand off the vial of poison to a restaurant worker in Havana,
who was to slip it into Castro's ice cream cone.
Cuban intelligence officers later found the vial in an ice box, frozen to the coils.
And then it says in brackets,
Castro famously loved ice cream.
Oh, did he?
So there are some different versions of this story.
Escalante recalls it happening in 1963
and with a chocolate milkshake instead of ice cream.
One variant posits that the pills were not discovered by Cuban intelligence,
but instead spilled out in the freezer and rendered useless.
But Escalante called the poison pill effort
the closest the CIA got to assassinating Fidel
in an interview with Reuters.
Reuters? That's how you pronounce it, isn't it?
Reuters, yeah.
Three and four, the exploding seashell plot
and the poisonous diving suit plot.
Oh, fun.
Scuba diving and ice cream, as we've learned,
was one of Castro's favorite hobbies.
Both at the same time.
He loved it.
So perhaps, unsurprisingly, the CIA looked into the possibility
of building an exploding seashell to kill him
on one of his expeditions.
In 1963, the Church Committee report recounts,
Desmond Fitzgerald's chief of the Anti-Castro CIA Task Force,
asked his assistant to determine whether an exotic seashell, rigged to explode,
could be deposited in an area where Castro commonly went skin diving.
But that's not the only diving-related plan the CIA had.
A second plan involved having James Donovan, who was negotiating with Castro
for the release of prisoners taken during the Bay of Pigs operation,
present Castro with a contaminated diving suit.
Donovan is maybe most famous for negotiating the spy trade
that returned American U-2 pilot Francis.
Gary Powers.
The Edge.
He was portrayed by the Edge.
He was portrayed by the Edge in the 2015 Stephen
Spielberg, Cohen Brothers movie, Bridge
of Spies.
The Technical Services Division of the CIA
did wind up buying a diving suit,
dusting its insides with a fungus
that caused the chronic skin
disease, Madura Foot,
and put TB
in the breathing apparatus.
Just for completeness, you know,
just get it all done.
We really want to kill this man.
But the suit never left the laboratory, apparently.
Number five, the paramour.
Marita Lorenz, Fidel Castro's one-time lover,
has said that she was recruited by CIA-funded anti-Castro groups in late 1959
and tasked with slipping him botulism toxin pills.
There you go, Peter.
Ah, see, it is a word.
Her CIA contact, she claimed, was E. Howard Hunt,
a then-agent who would later go to jail for his role in the Watergate break-in.
As soon as her plane reached Havana, however,
was having doubts about killing Castro.
Vanity Fares and Louise Bardash writes,
Even if she had the will to go through with her mission,
she had already botched it,
having stashed the capsules in a jar of cold cream.
When she looked for them, they were all gunked up.
I fished them out and flushed them down the bidet.
When Castro finally appeared, he was wary.
Why did you leave so suddenly?
Was his first question, she says.
Are you running around with those counter-revolutionaries in Miami?
I said, yes. I tried to play it cool.
The most nervous I have ever been was in that room.
because I had agents on standby and I had to watch my timing.
I had enough hours to stay with him, order a meal, kill him,
and prevent him from making a speech that night, which was already pre-announced.
He was very tired and wanted to sleep.
He was chewing a cigar, not an explosive one.
And he laid down on the bed and said,
Did you come here to kill me?
Just like that.
I was standing at the edge of the bed.
I said, yes, I wanted to see you.
And he said, that's good. That's good.
Castro asked if she was working for the CIA.
I said, not really. I worked for myself.
Then he leaned over.
pulled out his 45 and handed it to me.
I flipped the chamber out and hit it back.
He didn't even flinch.
And he said, you can't kill me.
Nobody can kill me.
And he kind of smiled and chewed on his cigar.
I felt deflated.
He was so sure of me.
Nobody can kill me.
He was so sure of me.
He just grabbed me.
We made love.
I contemplated staying to try talking to him later after his speech,
but it would be too late because he rambles on for eight,
ten to twelve hours.
That was the hardest part. I wanted him to beg me to stay, but he got dressed and left. I just sat there by myself a while. I left him a note. I told them that I would be back.
What the fuck? Isn't that mental? Isn't that absolutely insane?
That's nuts. You go there with the plan of killing the man and you end up sleeping with him. That's literally, I think that's happened in like three James Bond films.
Yes, it has. Really James Bond, isn't it? It's insane. You can't kill me.
Number six, the poison pen.
In the early 1960s, the CIA made contact with a senior Cuban official known only as AM slash lash.
Each case officer testified that he did not ask AM Lash to assassinate Castro, the Church Committee report writes.
The record clearly reveals, however, that both officers were aware of his desire to take such action.
AM Lash asked for and apparently received a cache of highly powered rifles with scopes which he intended to use
for an assassination. But the CIA also offered him a ballpoint pen rigged with a hypodermic
needle so fine that the victim would not notice its insertion. Apparently, A.M. Lash did not
think much of the device and complained the CIA, surely, could come up with something more sophisticated
than that. Than a needle you can't even feel, hidden in a pen.
It just doesn't give a shit, does he?
A bit harsh. And finally, I think this is the most interesting one personally, character assassinates.
assassination through LSD-like drugs or de-bearding.
Oh.
So these technically weren't attempts to kill Castro so much as discredit him and undermine his rule,
but they're too strange to not include here.
From March through August, 1960, during the last year of the Eisenhower administration,
the CIA considered plans to undermine Castro's charismatic appeal by sabotaging his speeches.
According to the 1967, report to the CIA's Inspector General,
an official in the Technical Services Division
recalled discussing a scheme
to spray Castro's broadcasting studio
with a chemical which produced effects
similar to LSD,
but the scheme was rejected by the...
was rejected...
Hang on, but the scheme was rejected
by the chemical was unreliable.
I think you can see what he meant there.
Yes, yes.
The TSD also experimented
with dosing a box of cigars
with a chemical producing temporary disorientation
which could lead to an embarrassing failed speech
by Castro.
The CIA inspector
General also found a plan to dust Castro's shoes with thallium salts, a strong
depilitary, a strong depilitary that would cause his beard to fall out. It was supposed to be
delivered to Castro when he was travelling abroad and left his shoes outside his hotel room
to be shined. But when Castro cancelled the trip, the attempt was abandoned. And that is the
final one. Jeez. Of the lot.
Wow.
Yeah. I mean, I was going to say it.
God, the fun the CIA used to have,
but they're probably still doing similar Looney Tunes-level stuff.
Even more insidious than ever before.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, my God.
That must have been a fun time to work there, though.
How can we kill Castro?
Bomb cigar.
Infected jumpsuit.
How nefarious.
Stabby pen?
No, no, no, that's too silly.
I can't do that.
More sophisticated, please.
come up with way better than that.
The CIA is so nefarious in that regard.
I am actually a several year-long CIA sting operation
to determine once and for all, Michael,
if you pissed in that drawer at your parents' house.
Oh, my God.
And what have you learned so far?
So much.
Learned so much.
What did you put in the form, Ben?
Tell me what you put in the form.
Oh, Michael.
Oh, Michael.
You don't want to know.
But that's my thing.
Some very bizarre ways the CIA tried to take down Castro.
Amazing.
Nice.
Incredible. Thank you, Ben.
You're welcome.
Would you like a question?
Yes, please.
This is from Connor Bennett at C. Bennett underscore 12,
who says, what flavor is the vidiates cereal and what is the toy inside?
Hmm.
Oh, what flavor is the vidiott?
I mean, banana seems too obvious, but just because of, yeah.
But that's, in a way, there's got to be some deeper, deeper, deeper, taste of neighbour's cat.
Oh, garlic?
No, we don't want that.
We want it to be palatable, but bearing in mind, sorry, that we can have that like whole grain shapes of something.
And also several different designs of marshmallows go in there too.
So we can have all sorts going on in this bowl.
Well, the mallows have short, I mean, not to just sound like a broken record, but it seems too perfect not to have blobby mallows, right?
pink little Mr. Blobby shapes
sort of strawberry flavoured
or well just marshmallow flavoured really
we could have a few varieties though
so we could have blobby blobby mallows
yeah we could have maybe some in the shape of memory cards
oh cute yeah
could we have
videos
oh that I like it
V-oites V-oitos and you get the letters
V, I, O, T, and S, but not a D.
There's never, there was a manufacturing malfunction.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Hmm.
Is it chocolatey?
Does it turn the milk brown?
I think it probably turns the milk a colour that you weren't expecting.
It turns the milk yellow.
And you don't really know why.
Oh, I'm thinking, for the toy inside at least, it's a mystery Hannah Montana item.
so you have your own little posseum tat.
It could be a copy of Hannah Montana
the movie The Game, or it could be a copy of
Hannah Montana, the movie, the game.
But it's not in like the proper plastic
case, it's in one of those little paper
sleeves like it used to get inside
cereal boxes. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, and
adding on to the Posome Tat thing,
half of the box is serial. The other half
is just random stuff that was found lying around
in the factory and chucked in a box.
Yeah. Yes. Some leaf loops.
Maybe there's a few actual fruit loops
in there we've got sent some fruit loops didn't we so yeah yeah still have those so that's the toy what
about the what about the back though could we do a word search yeah yeah we could do a word search
maybe every production cycle there's a we include the final question for the audience at home to
answer and they can just scribble on the back of the box yeah yeah that's good um it also says best before
2019 on every box.
Hey, excellent.
Maybe you can cut out a mask
from the back and wear it.
Like one of us three.
There's different varieties,
different, different cereals.
You've got to collect them all.
Mm-hmm.
Can we just chuck in a DVD in there for Shits and Giggles as well?
This box is absolutely packed with stuff.
There's no room for cereal.
It's just a box of shit we don't want anymore.
we could have done that honestly
if we had the time to properly prepare
we could have done a temporary
I mean there's a chance that people
it was too soon I think but there's a chance
people could have gotten their own tat sent back to them
but people could buy like a mystery box of shit
and we could have sold and gotten rid of all of our stuff
yeah that would have been such a good use of it all
yeah it would have been good
well there we are I think we've done the
what did you call it v v
I think I actually just said videos, videos, which is just the word video, but with an I.
T's not pronounced.
I went quiet there because I spent so long going through words trying to think, what could I make into O's?
And there's nothing there.
Benzos, no, that's, no.
Audios, maybe.
Come on, there's got to be something.
It's really frustrating because I know there's something in there.
yeah um flakes no there's nothing there um boo cakes
boucake flakes oh no i don't want it books
book flakes
but Peter
yes do you have a thing
I've got a thing right here
it has an audio component as well but unfortunately I'll just
shoot you a link in a minute but here we go this is all about
a well not a
furry friend, because he doesn't have her, but a member of the animal kingdom we're going to learn
all about today. This is knock, the beluga whale. Knock spelled N-O-C, all capital letters, apparently.
Everywhere it's written, it's always in all caps, which is a bit strange. So,
knock was a beluga whale who made human-like vocalizations. You might remember that I brought
Hoover the Talking Seal very early on in the potty of days, who went, get over here.
that's an old one.
He was captured by Inuit Hunters for the United States Navy in 1977
and lived in captivity until his death in 1999.
I don't think the article gives more detail than that
in terms of what he was going to be used for,
but at the time, and perhaps I think still maybe,
the Navy have used dolphins and whales
for things like detecting underwater mines
and, yeah, like underwater surveillance and stuff.
So that is what he was captured for.
In 1984, researchers from the National Marine Mammal Foundation
discovered his unusual ability to mimic the rhythm and tone of human speech.
Beluga's human-like voices had been described in the past,
but Nock's voice was the first to have been recorded.
Nock was legally captured by Inuit hunters in 1977 as a juvenile.
The name Noc is a play on noceums.
Let me just copy and paste the word no seams for you
Because it is the most vidiates-looking word I've ever seen
No-seems
As in the word no, well, I'll give you
So they're called no seams because they are midges
And I guess in some part of the world
They call them no seams
Because they're so small that you don't, you can't see them
Interesting
That's so good
Yeah
So, yeah, his, the name Knock, N-O-C is a play on noceum's biting midges found in Manitoba where he was caught.
He lived in captivity for 22 years until his death in 1999.
His human-like vocalizations were first noticed in 1984 and stopped about four years later when he became sexually mature.
There was some repeated stuff there because I read the intro and now we're on the actual bulk of the article.
So, beluga whales have been called Kine.
of the sea, and anecdotes of their capacity for mimicry have been reported in the past.
For example, the first two scientists to study the calls of wild belugas wrote that, quote,
occasionally the calls would suggest a crowd of children shouting in the distance.
And keepers at the Vancouver aquarium said that a 15-year-old beluga whale named Lagosi was able to
speak his own name. However, Knox's human-like calls were, to say again, the first of their
kind to be recorded. Nox vocalizations were recorded and studied by a team of biologists from
the NMMF led by Sam Ridgeway. In 1984, Ridgeway and the others at the NMF began to hear
peculiar sounds coming from the whale and dolphin enclosure. They were reminiscent of two people
talking in the distance. The words were just beyond the limit of comprehension. Later, a diver
working in the enclosure came to the surface after he heard someone cry.
Sorry, heard someone cry, out, out, out.
It's creepy, isn't it?
Why is it choosing the kind of creepy stuff to mimic, like children playing?
I know, yeah.
So after he asked his colleagues, who told me to get out, they realized it must have been knock.
They immediately began to record the sounds and reward him for the behavior,
teaching him to make them on command.
Eventually, they installed a pressure sensor in his nasal cavity to better understand the mechanism
by which the sounds were produced.
According to Ridgeway, quote,
they were definitely unlike the usual sounds for a beluga
and similar to human voices in rhythm and acoustic spectrum.
End quote.
Unlike humans who use the larynx to produce sounds,
whales used their nasal tract.
Data gathered from the pressure sensors
indicated that Nock was using his nasal tract as well,
although he altered his normal vocal mechanics.
In particular, he overinflated his vestibular sac,
which is normally used to prevent water from entering the lungs.
You should go to a doctor if you...
Yeah, if you feel your vestibular sac is overinflated.
But yeah, he seems to purposely be...
Oh no, my vestibular sac's been here, sorry.
He's going against the usual beluga mechanics in order to make these sounds.
So there is seemingly some kind of intention here.
And then it says at the end,
Knox vocalizations were described during a conference in 1985
and in a 2012 paper by Ridgeway et al,
which appeared in current biology journal.
So I'm now going to send you a link to this weird Capitia article
and embedded in the article as a player
with a recorded sound of knock.
And flip embrace yourself because it...
Well, I'm not even going to prime you, but when you guys are ready...
Okay, I've got it paused.
I'm ready.
Okay, three, two, one, play.
Oh, that's so haunting, it almost like, it almost sounds like the vocalization of a very stressed cat.
Yeah.
It's like someone playing a kazoo or something.
Yeah.
It sounds like the audio.
AI thing you brought a couple of weeks ago, Peter.
It does a bit, yeah.
Yeah, where it's making human sounds, but not actual words.
Yeah, that is.
That was, I don't know what I expected, but it wasn't that.
No, it was not.
When I heard it, it wasn't either.
I just stumbled across this on a video the other day, and I was like, okay, well,
they've got to bring that along, given that it's, you know, audio-based as well.
It's very podcast-friendly, but, I mean, obviously, you have to keep in mind that this
thing doesn't have lips or, you know, it's not able to produce.
different kinds of phonem
so it's able to make the tone of human sound
but then it's all just coming out of its open nose hole
so it just is all the
so I guess it's kind of similar to
us humans trying to make different sounds
without moving our lips or mouth or anything
it's just having your mouth agape and adjusting your
box until it sounds weird
yeah weird which is kind of what it sounds like
Because I was a bit cynical at first, and I was like, God, I thought it was going to sound a bit more like a human to be honest.
But then having listened to it a few times, I'm like, well, tonally, it does.
Like, a human could get underwater and make a sound like that.
And you could play them side by side to someone who hadn't heard either.
And maybe you could fool some people as to which one was which.
So it's not a million miles away.
But yeah, creepy.
Imagine if you were swimming in the sea and heard that or, you know, honestly.
ship.
Yeah.
Well, that's the sirens call, isn't it?
Well, yeah.
I mean, as it said in this article, you know, it's something that has been, it had been
reported historically.
It doesn't say how far back it goes, but in the video I was watching about it, it did
say citation very much needed, but it said that there have been like really old sailors
stories of them hearing, like, screaming children in the sea.
And, you know, they're like sailing through the fog.
in the middle of the ocean and then they hear a weird human-like noise and it is creepy
and that may well have been beluga whales so yeah there you go and that's it um he so he lived
until 19 what did i say 1999 22 years old in captivity um and that is the story of knock
named for the noceums noceums brilliant thank you peter you welcome thank you thank you
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I've got it right here.
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Wait, sorry, was the Dark Souls one the first piece of cake?
Maybe.
Oh, it might have been.
Yeah, I don't think I did it one last time.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it was.
It was.
I guess a lot of these will be first, won't they?
Yeah, we're there again.
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it was unfortunately yeah
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Fuck off.
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I feel like we've asked or answered this before,
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I'm so hungry.
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It is.
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