Podiots - Podiots: Episode 94 - Burns Night
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poddy it's i was going to think of a special occasion but there's nothing in january is it
it's just a desolate wasteland it's the special burns night episode welcome oh oh burns week
burns fortnight burns yeah because it won't be out until several days after burns night so
Burns Week
Yeah
Your number one
Stop Shop,
podcast for all of your Robert Burns
poetry
And sort of Scottish nationalism
Good
Presented by three Englishmen
Yeah
Of course
Just how Scotland likes it
I was expecting more bonfires
From searching it
But no there's a lot of haggis in front of me at the minute
Yeah
There's no
There's no burning on burning
Burns Night.
Boo!
This is bullshit.
You guys ever celebrated Burns Night?
Never.
I don't think I've ever even read up about it until this very moment.
With the professionals on the matter now.
Is it a national holiday?
See, these are the kind of questions we need to ask for the Burns Night podcast.
Is it a national holiday in Scotland?
It's the kind of thing we should know.
Yeah.
I think it probably is, but I don't know.
Because if it is, I feel hard done by as someone from a country that doesn't.
have that national
Yeah, where's our extra day off?
I want one.
When's International Men's Day is what I want to know.
Yeah, it's about time we've got to choose.
Question on everyone's lips.
We've had it too hard for too long.
Yeah.
We're making our voices known like never before.
Yeah.
I demand not only an international men's day,
but an international white, cis, Western males day.
Great.
You know?
The sign that doesn't exist is already a clear indicator of oppression on those guys, isn't that?
Absolutely.
God, we really hit the ground running here.
Burns Night and oppression.
It's a stormer.
It's going to be a splendid episode.
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and obey the law of the three us, where everybody brings a thing how long to talk about.
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And I'm Michael.
Hi, boy.
Hello.
Pretty good, thanks.
How are you?
Yeah, no bad.
Second podcast.
Second podcast, yes?
Yes.
Second podcast of 2022.
Oh boy.
We're going on strong.
How do we feel?
pumped up, energized, and ready to sell.
Sell.
Just sell hopes and dreams.
That's what this podcast's all about, right?
Yeah, okay.
I mean, I can get on board with that.
We could do with a little positivity.
January is a bit of a shitty month, isn't it?
Yeah.
Known hopes and dreams traffickers.
Oh, God.
We are.
A lorry was stopped outside the channel tunnel, filled with hopes and dreams.
Yeah, that had not been declared.
at customs.
They're awaiting deportation.
We'll have none of those there, says Boris.
There's now going to be lasting supply chain issues
and it may be a while before we can replenish stock.
Taking them back to Europe where they belong.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
None of that.
None of that muck over here, thank you.
We'll be miserable.
And that's the way we like it.
Yeah.
It's a conversational podcast.
I was just going to let that hang.
I just wanted that to just sort of hang.
really breathe it in.
I felt really uncomfortable about that.
Can we, do you reckon we can make it more uncomfortable?
Oh, absolutely.
You can always make it more uncomfortable.
If we just sort of.
Oh, it's quite nasty, actually, isn't it?
That really went on for a long time there.
I was really, I was settling in, but, you know.
I was bubbling up.
That was awful.
Well, you are the hopes and dreams vendor, Mikey.
Damn right
So we shan't delay any longer
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I like that.
That's cute.
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Yeah
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would you guys like a quest john oh absolutely speaking of sad january we go to don't donna donna donna
donna d o n a g h donna yeah donna donna donna i suppose okay at oh very good mikey
love thank you sorry say that again for me i said i donna
He said it better than that.
He said it.
It was way better at the first.
He had to be there.
You had to be that, but you weren't there.
Sorry.
Let's just roll on, please.
I was too busy trying to desperately read Donas.
At La Breaethe Dona.
I've got no idea what's going on.
It's our language.
January can be a rough month.
What's your go-to comfort watch, be it a series or film?
Now, I know we've spoken about our comfort series before,
but I thought maybe we could be a bit more specific
and just talk about things we've watched this January
that we've enjoyed.
Oh, okay.
Does that work for you, Borm?
Yeah.
Yes, it does.
I mean, I think almost everything I've watched this January
certainly what I can think of
isn't necessarily a comfort show.
But I've watched a couple of true crime things recently.
I saw one about Mormonism.
And there's like this whole trade of like Mormon documents that's really big in America and in the Mormon church.
Because Mormonism is only like, well, it's American, therefore it's only a couple hundred years old at most.
It means that it's like a modern faith that like the documents that are its basis still exist out there.
And that's why there's this huge trade about it.
And it's about, like, someone who sets off car bombs to kill people who are trading in this stuff.
I'm trying to remember the name of it.
It was on Netflix.
Hang on, let me eat them.
I'll Google it.
Okay.
Is it Murder Among the Mormons, by it?
Yes, that'll be it.
Yeah.
It sounds like a Dr. Zeus book.
Isn't it?
Yeah.
Green Eggs and...
ham but yeah it was like really compelling um and then as well as that i saw this like crazy
thing about a con man in fact that's that's a really recent thing i think it's only just come out
so it's been like trending on netflix um it was called the the puppet master or the puppeteer
or something and it's about this guy here i mean i don't want to spoil it too much because it's one
of those where you just can't stop watching and there's just new developments and cliffhangers
at the end of every episode. But again, it's like a true crime documentary by Netflix about this
bloke who like tells people he works for MI5 and he like just is able to reel them in. And then
he is, he like has them in his car and he's like driving them all over the country and they
think that he's protecting them from the IRA and it's just absolutely insane that this thing
happened and that he managed to do it for so long and to so many people and the guy is still
out there with the mother of this family he went to prison for like some stuff and then he got
he got out and now the whole reason the show has been made is because this family their mom
has like gone off with him and they they have like a little bit of
contact with her and whenever they speak to her she says like she's not there under duress she
knows that he's a convicted con man but she loves him and like she believes everything he's saying
to her and they're out there and they don't really know where they are or what they're doing and
it's just wild it's unbelievable um so lots of fun yes yeah so certainly not uh lovely warming
comforting stuff to watch with your january but if you really want to lean into the depression
and the cold dark nights, then go for those two.
A puppet, puppet master, I think it's called,
and murder among the Mormons.
Excellent.
Wow.
To my list.
I've started paddling in the waters of Alan Partridge properly after years.
I'm never really watching any of it.
So I've had a good watcher of all of I'm Alan Partridge,
and that's just, it is fantastic.
It's very good.
It's very cringy, horrible goodness and a big fan of it.
Give me a second series.
Oh, it's fantastic.
It's so pitiful to watch this man clamber through life.
Yeah.
It's spectacular.
And, of course, his newer series this time,
as more of like a spoof on,
just horribly benign, daytime TV.
Yeah.
Is that the one way he looks into the role after someone falls in?
Yeah, I watched that.
That was brilliantly uncomfortable, wasn't it?
It's so good.
Yeah.
I really love, because someone who despises most daytime TV,
it just perfectly sums up just how
nothing it all is
yeah yeah oh it's it's fantastic
and then ironically you've got
what's his name richard madeley
actually presents
uh is it this morning or good morning britain or something
occasionally like he will just dip into that
and the whole thing is that he's just
accidental partridge the man
constantly so
it's really like reality
kind of mirroring fiction
and god
yeah horrendous
I can't remember any specifically, but I love the, you know, the segments that they cut away to, especially the Partridge presented ones.
And they're all just like really tedious.
Again, I wish I could, I wish I could name one in particular because I only watched it last year.
But it was just, just his presenting style is just so comedically naff that I just, I love it.
You know, he's talking about the most boring stuff.
He's getting into his car and he puts on his driving gloves and stuff.
and it's just so, it's so good.
It is a work of art.
Yeah, like properly does justice
to the awkward, clunky style of everything.
I think, yeah, like you're saying that,
just the weird shots and him walking around these places
trying to, trying to report on things,
but really having no idea what's going on.
Yeah, you can say what you like about, like,
what's the top, you know,
the best kind of sitcom or like British comedy
or something of all time.
And, like, that's hugely up for debate,
even like a top 10.
But certainly as a character, like Alan Partridge has got to be one of the very best characters alone, like, ever created.
It's so believable that a person like that could exist.
I love it.
It's 20 years strong as well, so it's got, well, over 20 years, I think.
Yeah, yeah, it's been going for a long old time.
It's got legs.
It sure do.
So it goes.
Are you, Ben?
Well, I watched Encanto.
It's so good. It's so good. The music is phenomenal and it's been stuck in my head and I've been listening to it on Spotify as well, all arranged by Lynn Manuel Miranda. And it's flipping excellent. So I'd recommend that. Delightful animated movie film. If you've got the Disney Plus, you can watch it on there. But it's, yeah, really, really good.
It's still in the cinema as well, so I might have to get along.
I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it
I think it's just it's so lovely
and there's
what I like the most about it
and I've seen a lot of people talk about
is that there's no villain
there's no like archetypal villain
it's just sort of
the strife is internal
for a lot of the characters
and it's all about them
overcoming and accepting things
and it's lovely
it's just a really lovely film
oh lovely
I recommend it very much
besides that
TV wise I watched The Witcher
season two.
Oh yeah.
Everyone loves to stare at grubby Henry Cavill, right?
Yeah.
Everyone was that.
It was good.
I enjoyed it more than the first season, which obviously chronologically, well, it wasn't.
And that's why it was so confusing because it time hopped all over the place.
But the second season was linear, and that was great.
And I really like that.
I'd recommend Tacoma F.D. as well is a great comedy series about a fire department
in a US town that gets
sort of an absurd amount of rainfall
so they're not that busy
and when they do go out it's just like
a kid is stuck in the well
or someone's got his
dick stuck in something
like a can and he needs he needs help
it's good I'm on board with this
it's good I enjoy it
I think it's quite fun
it's not one of the mainstream sitcoms
but it's pretty good
I would recommend it very much
nice thank you very much Penn
that's all right
Who would like to do a thing?
Yes.
Go on.
Mine's a very short thing today.
A tiny Peter.
It is a tiny Peter, tiny thing.
But it's something I've wanted to bring along for a long time.
And I've just not because it is so short.
But I just love that it exists.
So I probably really built it up there as something fantastic.
It's not something wild.
But it just seems.
My seat.
It seemed like prime potty.
It's material, that's all.
Okay.
Are you boys aware of the glass harmonica?
It's that instrument that has like spinning glass bowls and you wet your fingers and then
you rub your fingers on it.
Let me post a picture.
Oh, like when you play glasses filled with water or something?
It's exactly the same principle as when you rub the rim of a wine glass.
And if you have the right pressure.
and if your finger is wet, it will, like, resonate the wine glass.
Oh, it looks like some kind of giant sperm from a deep sea creature.
Yeah, it's a bit strange, isn't it?
So, let me read to you about the glass harmonica,
because there is an aspect of glass harmonica culture and history
that is very strange that I happened upon recently.
This is a weird Wikipedia.
We go to Wikipedia itself.
The glass harmonica, also known as the glass harmonica,
with no H,
the glass harmonium,
the bowl organ,
the hydrocrystallophone,
or simply the harmonica or harmonica,
Jesus,
is a type of musical instrument
that uses a series of glass bowls
or goblets graduated in size
to produce musical tones
by means of friction.
Instruments of this type
are known as friction idiophones.
Now, Mikey,
got a little,
a little treat for you here.
This is a little section called Forerunners.
Because its sounding portion is made of glass,
the glass harmonica is a type of crystallophone.
The phenomenon of rubbing a wet finger
around the rim of a wine goblet to produce tones
is documented back to Renaissance times.
Galileo considered the phenomenon,
as did Athanius Kirker.
Oh, that's on him.
and then gradually over time
it was sort of turned into an instrument
so the effect has been known a very long time
but the Irish musician Richard Pockridge
is typically credited as the first to play
an instrument composed of glass vessels
by rubbing his fingers around the rims
beginning in the 1940s he performed in London
on a set of upright goblets
filled with varying amounts of water
his career was cut short by a fire in his room
which killed him and destroyed his apparatus
citation needed it says
or did it
did it happen
but I came in a bit soon
but here you go Mikey
Benjamin Franklin
invented a radically new
arrangement of the glasses
in 1761
after seeing water filled
wine glasses played
at Edward Delaval
by Edward Delaval
at Cambridge in England
in May 1761
Franklin worked with
London glass blower
Charles James
to build
one and it had its world premiere in early 1762, played by Marianne Davies.
So that was essentially the instrument that we have today.
Benjamin Franklin himself, known fart expert.
Yes, writer of farts and writer about second marriages as well.
Also, in between writing those letters, created musical instruments.
What a boy.
He created that.
But we now skip ahead to a section of the ask.
called purported dangers.
Oh no.
The instrument's popularity did not last
far beyond the 18th century.
This may have been due to the inability
to amplify the volume so as not to be drowned out
by other instruments.
But some claim this was due to strange rumours
that using the instrument caused both musicians
and their listeners to go mad.
Oh my God.
It is a matter of conjecture how pervasive that belief
was. All the commonly cited examples of this rumour seem to be German, if not confined, to Vienna.
One example of alleged effects from playing the glass harmonica was noted by German
musicologist Johann Friedrich Rochelz in the Algemyna musicalische Zeitung.
The harmonica excessively stimulates the nerves, plunges the player into a nagging depression,
and hence into a dark and melancholy mood.
that is an apt method for slow self-annihilation.
Jesus.
He then has three bullet points.
Number one, if you are suffering from any nervous disorder, you should not play it.
Number two, if you are not yet ill, you should not play it excessively.
Not yet ill.
What a strange way of saying healthy.
I know.
And number three, if you are feeling melancholy, you should not play it,
or else play uplifting pieces.
Okay, thank you there, Johan.
That's quite the warning label
that come with a quite pleasant sounding instrument.
Marianne Davies, who I mentioned earlier,
she's the one who debuted Benjamin Franklin's model.
She also played flute and harpsichord
and was a young woman said to be related to Franklin,
it says, in little hyphen clause there,
became proficient enough at playing the harmonica
to offer public performances.
After touring for many years in duo performances,
her celebrated vocalist sister, she was also said to have been afflicted with a melancholia
attributed to the plaintive tones of the instrument. Marianne Kirk Gessner, which is a different
Marianne, was an harmonica player as well. She died at the age of 39 of pneumonia or an illness
much like it. However, many others, including Franklin, lived long lives. Okay, right.
Well, we'll see how this goes. For a time, the harmonica achieved a general
in vogue, but like most fads, that for the harmonica eventually passed. That's a slightly strange
wording. It had been claimed the sound producing mechanism did not generate sufficient power to
fill large halls that were becoming home to modern string instruments. The instrument was
made with glass and subject to easy breakage, and perhaps that did not help either. By 1820,
the harmonica had mostly disappeared from frequent public performance, perhaps because music
musical fashions were changing.
But also, according to another article here,
as well as Marianne Kirch-Gessner passing away,
allegedly due to the spooky tones of Franklin's harmonica,
a young child in Germany also died during an harmonica performance,
which resulted in some towns banning the instrument for good.
Aside from the physical toll,
the instrument supposedly took on players and listeners.
Some also believe that the high-pitched sounds summoned Spirits of the Dead.
Or that the harmonica had magical powers and in some cases drove individuals mad, as we've said.
It was reported that it even caused listeners to commit suicide.
It's like the ring, like at the end of the tape you die in seven days,
but instead of that, it's at the end of a lovely performance.
In seven days you'll become very sad.
But there's one last thought here.
A modern version of the purported dangers claims that players suffered lead poisoning
because armonicas were made of lead glass.
Lead poisoning, of course, the symptoms of which include kind of neural issues.
Like it can give you physical, like tingling in your hands and feet,
but it can also give you seizures.
You can like go into a coma.
And I don't know if it can.
quote-unquote drive you mad, but, I mean, it can certainly affect your, you know, your nervous
system. However, there is no known scientific basis for the theory that merely touching lead
glass can lead to lead poisoning. Lead poisoning was common in the 18th and early 19th centuries,
both for harmonica players and non-players alike. Doctors prescribed lead compounds for a long
list of ailments, and lead or lead oxide was used as a food preservative and in cookware
and eating utensils.
Good, good.
Trace amounts of lead that the harmonica players in Franklin's Day received from their
instruments would likely have been dwarfed by the lead they were receiving from other sources,
such as lead content paint used to mark visual identification of the bowls to the players.
So essentially no one really knows why people were seemingly going a bit mad from either playing or listening to this instrument.
Some people thought it could be down to lead poisoning, but there's no real scientific basis for picking up lead through your fingers rubbing it on lead glass.
And everyone was getting lead from other sources in those days anyway.
So a bit of a mystery.
This poor instrument was just scapegoat for everyone's issues
Yeah, yeah, I guess it was just people were
You know
Devil instrument, get it out of our town
Get the spook piano out of here
Absolutely, yeah
They were just having issues for other reasons
And maybe some of them happened to have been
to a glass harmonica concert
That's strange
It's like the Lavender Town theme song of its day
It is, just like that
Kids die
Yeah, indeed
So there you go
I stumbled across that
Like well not the other day
Like a few weeks ago really
And I thought
Yeah bring that along
Fantastic
Thank you so much Peter
You're welcome
I want to forward to the return of the
Yeah I want to look
On the Wikipedia article
There's a
Like a royalty free piece
That you can just click a
Let me join to share it with you
Warning you may die
Yeah well exactly
Yeah you've got to be careful
About halfway down the article
on the right-hand side
under a sheet of music.
Let's have a listen.
Oh, it's very spooky and a theory, isn't it?
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
It's a bit Harry Potter theme song.
I think it is the same instrument
as what John Williams used for the Harry Potter.
It must be.
It sounds exactly the same.
God, sounds amazing.
I want to see it all.
They do still exist.
A lot of the old ones,
or most of the old ones don't exist anymore.
They've been destroyed, either accidentally
or on purpose, I suppose, but
there are some modern ones that have been
rebuilt, so it's very easy
to, I mean, you can just Google it
and people are playing it on YouTube and stuff
and not dying, so
if anyone
at home, as far as we know.
We're all dying, really, at all times.
Wow.
But yeah, if you want to have a listen, then
head to the Wikipedia page or to YouTube
or whatever. There's plenty
out there. Yeah, check it out.
Nice. Well, we've got another question here.
from Paul at Paul Zarember 16 who says
if your home was on fire
everyone that you live with in all of your important documents
and money are safe what would you save that is important to you
a funco pop are your favourite gaming stuff
Billy Clay Walrus
okay love you bye
oh that's a good question I forgot about the little
stash of video stuff I've got to keep that going
yeah what would you save though
would you say I know exactly what I'd save actually
it's a piece of trash that I've carried with me for other
six years now and I refuse to ever get rid of it. Okay. It must have been like my second year of
uni. I went down to London to visit a friend. He went to go watch a live screening of the room,
famously the worst film ever made. And it was a lovely screening event, lovely big cinema,
the director, one of the main actors was there to do like an absolutely unhinged Q&A afterwards.
They're all absolutely mental people. It was great fun. And much like the Rocky Horror
Picture Show, the film has like little traditions that you do during the film. Kind of makes it
of like a sing-along interactive experience.
And one of my favorite bits was, for some reason,
the kind of set designer for the film, if they had one,
just decided to place frame pictures of plastic spoons around in the house.
And so just like in random shots,
these two characters have like a really serious discussion,
just in the background, there's a framed picture of some spoons.
And so whenever one of those frame pictures appears on screen,
the whole audience erupts screaming spoons
and throws hundreds upon hundreds of plastic,
at the screen every time.
And so I've got the signed Blu-ray, signed by the two guys.
And inside the box, I've got a plastic spoon that I picked up from the floor before the
end of the screen.
It means a lot to me, Dammer, even if it is just a bit of rubbish.
Brilliant.
Special spoon.
I love that.
Yeah, a special spoon.
Nice.
What about you, Peter?
I mean, I could, I don't know if it would count as cheating, but I have a little tiny,
I mean, it's not tiny, tiny, but I guess.
almost like a child-sized suitcase
that has just all of my
precious things in it.
So I could very easily just grab the little suitcase.
It's about the size of like a laptop bag.
And it's kind of an old-fashioned, like hard,
like the kind of suitcase you'd see on
the sort of kids being evacuated to the country in World War II.
Haddington has one.
Yeah, it's that kind of thing.
A little one of those.
And I've got a whole bunch of things in there.
I've got like, you know, like ticket stubs from shows I've been to.
And I've got corks from popped bottles of Prosecco from like special occasions,
like, you know, people's birthdays or Christmases and New Year's and stuff,
which I then write on what it's from.
So I've got loads of these corks from different times.
So if I could, you know, just be cheeky.
say, well, I just grab my suitcase of all my, like, keepsakes, then that's what I do. But if not,
um, I don't think there's anything, in the chaos you've tripped over the suitcase and the
contents are spilled everywhere. Oh, no. I mean, I can't even think what's in there. So I can't
really give an answer for like that. But I, I also have like a sort of a vidiates shrine in a
cupboard. So maybe, maybe something from there or, um, I'm trying to think.
think like some of my stuff is at the office as well like i've got like video video game tat uh but
that that wouldn't be burning in my fire so have you still got those um painted converse we all
received yeah i've still been good to put on your feet got my converse i've got some i've got a load
of people's art and like cards that they sent us when we were you know wrapping up um i've got
billy clay walrus who needs super gluing a little bit he's slightly broken but he'll be fine
So what I'm hearing is that there's too many treasures inside
So you're going to go down with the fire
And the arrest with the Vidyat's memorabilia
Possibly I mean and everything
So I've got the case
And then the case itself is in this like very thin cupboard
Which has shelves in it
And one of those shelves has all my Vidyat stuff arranged together
Another one has all of my Spiro stuff arranged
Like my guide and my copies of the game and stuff
And then the other shelf has all of my PS1 games
So maybe I could just lug this entire cupboard downstairs in the flames.
So I've gone from cheating from taking the suitcase to actually taking the entire mini wardrobe.
That's what I'm going to do.
Okay.
Fuck you.
You can't stop me.
Wow.
Well, in which case, I'm just going to put out the fire.
What do you think of that?
Yeah, all right.
Fine.
I'm going to not start the fire in the first place.
Easy.
There's Mikey with his plastic spoon.
All his other belongings are gone.
It's special.
No how.
It's just on the street
With this plastic spoon
Oh, I've got the happy memories at least
This is this will get me through these hard times
Living somewhere warm
And having belongings
My question is
If you can afford a plastic spoon
How come you can't afford a house?
Precisely
Precisely.
It really doesn't make any sense to me
Yeah
I completely agree
Ridiculous
Do you have a non-cheity answer Ben
Is there only one thing
That you think you would save?
See, it's a challenge
Because
My flat is so filled with
stuff, just things, belongings, possessions that picking any one of them would be a bit of a
challenge, I think, especially because so much of it is video game memorabilia or collectibles
or old Game Boy things that do have monetary value, but they're insured, so I'll just let
those burn
I suppose
I mean if I really
think very hard about it
I suppose there is
I have like a little
chest that's filled
with two peas and one peas
and the two peas and one peas
obviously aren't valuable
and I happily pour those out
but it's it's this beautifully
engraved
chest
I'm trying to find the right words
to describe it
my grandparents used to live in Hong Kong
and they lived there for about
10 years or they're about
and they brought that back with them
and I always eyed it up
with great admiration
whenever I saw it at their house
and my grandma eventually gave it to me
and that is the chest
but it does just keep pennies in it currently
but I suppose if there was something that had
if there was something that had any sort of
sentimental value to me at all in this flat
that I would save it would probably be that
so I'd just pour out the two peas
and run off with that little box
that sounds nice
I think as you're running out of the house
with your little box
could you take your Danny DeVito
cut out and put him by the window
this was the place
your ups and frames
got a lovely sad frame going on there
yeah I want Danny to stare out at the car park
where everyone else has gathered
and I want him to know
that he was left behind
and I also want to encourage
the fire department to go to my flat first
because they think that there's someone in there
oh my God
Danny DeVito is Danny DeVito
is in that burning flat
we've got to get him out
pressure we can't lose him and then you know most of my stuff might survive who knows
i don't even thought of that kind of like things that have been given to me like i've got
stuff that my grandparents gave me gave me as well which you know there's no even though it is
all insured on contents cover it's not about that is it it's not there's no financial
replacement for if someone bought you a very similar chest it doesn't be the same doesn't matter
It's like that wooden duck I got you from a service station, you know.
You'd be lost without that, wouldn't you?
I would.
It's on the fireplace.
Inconsolable.
Wow, see, look, you're just one day, you're going to just kick it in, aren't you?
Well, fortunately, the fireplace is not connected, so it's an ornamental fireplace.
But I was about to say, actually, just before you said, Wooden Duck, my grandparents, my grandma used to have,
It's like the least kind of monetary valuable thing.
But just this little carved, like whittled Canada goose.
It's like you could hold it in your hand.
It's really small.
And that sits on the mantelpiece.
And when I was a kid, I used to see this on her shelf, you know,
when I was like five or six.
I used to just really like this goose that she had.
And eventually she gave it to me.
And it's things like that that, you know,
you could buy me all the wooden geese in the world or indeed wooden ducks
if you're Ben Potter.
And it's not about the fact that it's,
I don't care what animal it is
or what it looks like.
It's that, you know,
I remember like baking biscuits in her kitchen
and like looking at the goose
and being like, oh, yeah, I like that goose.
It's cool.
Oh, I like my pinkies.
Still a plastic spoon, Mikey.
Sorry?
Still the plastic spoon.
Yeah, I like my spoon.
So I'm going to stick with it.
I think I've made the right choice here.
It's a good spoon.
That's good, man.
It sounds like a good spoon.
If I put literally any photo of the plastic spoon on the LinkedIn,
would you be upset because it's not your plastic spoon?
No, I'm happy to share.
I want other people to enjoy the plastic spoon,
but I am the rightful owner and proprietor of said spoon.
I want people to know that.
Fair enough, man.
It's like an NFT.
Cross me, right?
Yeah.
Do not copy of taste.
Spoon.
No, not Tupperware.
Tableware.
Tableware.
Yeah.
Very good.
Mikey, have you got a thing?
I do.
I do. Would you boys like to hear about furies for a short while?
Oh, I don't know.
Sorry, fairies or furries?
Furries. Oh, we're going back to furies, are we?
Of course. When do we recently go to furries? Hold on. Not recently.
This is Bristol days.
Well, we're long overdue. So all hail the return of the furies.
And in particular, a convention that took place in 2015 that ended in total disaster.
Oh, no.
Oh, dear.
Oh, it's a fun one.
So, in September 2015, a group of fairies came together with a brilliant idea.
Rain Furist.
That's like Forest and Furist.
You get it?
Yep, right.
Yeah, got you.
Yep.
Yep.
A convention for and by furries.
This is the story of how that dream burned to the ground before their very eyes.
Ferry conventions have a storied history.
They started way back in the 1980s, which was surprised to me.
It was like they've been going on a long time.
my thought was a relatively recent phenomenon.
No, people have been doing it for a long time.
And these conventions have been going strong ever since
in countries all over the world,
hosted by many different companies.
Mostly, they go off without a hitch,
but that wasn't the case for this convention.
Rain First is essentially the reverse of DashCon.
And DashCon, for those of you who don't remember,
was an event in 2014 for different members of Tumblr
to come together in unity.
It's particularly noteworthy for having a ball pit.
as one of its main attractions, if you remember those memes.
There's like a tweet that went out like, oh, good news, everybody, everyone gets an extra
hour in the ball pit.
And that was the big selling point when people got there.
And of course, someone peed in it at some point.
Of course.
That's a hint of how things are going to be going at this convention.
Where Dashcon was a disaster caused by its organizers,
Rainforest was a disaster caused by its attendees.
Things start unraveling with a member of the event staff making a purpose.
public announcement during the opening of the event. And they stated, I'm absolutely sure there is
no truth to the rumor that Rainforest is under an evil curse. And the convention on that note
got underway. It feels like a really weird thing to make a point of. Maybe they knew what was
coming. It all started off innocently enough with the talent contest and the festivities got
underway. All well and good. But as the night went on, some attendees started getting absolutely
absolutely trashed and I'm talking like
Jesus Christ, do these people ever drank before
what is going on kind of levels of trashed
and these hours of partying
unleashed a series of fortunate
events that would continue to unravel
through the night. A series of unfortunate
events or fortunate events.
Unfortunate. Nothing about this
is fortunate. Wow, how fortunate.
And a few hours later
the destruction
had officially begun. It started
with somebody deliberately loosening the bolt
on one of the hotel toilets
so that when the next person flushed,
the water would flood from the toilet
and everywhere into the bathroom.
Just a senseless act of vandalism
and almost immediately the bathroom was put out of service.
Emergency plumbers were called in
but the damage was already done
and the water had in fact leaked through the floor
to where the hotel was storing all of its servers.
so lovely poopy water all over their internet services, which is nice.
Meanwhile, staff and security were threatening to throw out some of the guests.
They had disabled their fire alarm in the hotel room so that they could hotbox their room.
That's a stinky room I can imagine.
And down at the hot tub, a place usually for relaxing.
Someone, another act of just weird, there's a theme here, of just wade what the hell are you doing, vandalism.
But someone decided to take all of the towels that were lying around the place.
pool, just lob them into the pool, allowing them to get all soggy and float around.
And someone even had the bright idea of to bundle up towels and jam them into the spa,
into the motor for the jacuzzi, causing it to just completely block and causing thousands
of dollars in damage.
That's sake.
Silly, silly miscreants.
And it keeps going.
They stepped it up a notch from Dashcon, from doing a number one in the ball pit to going
number two in the swimming pool.
Just spectacular, really.
Round of applause.
On the official Rainforest Twitter account,
they announced that, quote,
due to vandalism,
the hot tub is closed for the rest of the con.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
no mention of the brown logs that were invading.
And now back to the bathroom,
there were rumors floating around on Twitter
that someone had drilled a glory hole
into one of the bathroom stalls.
Sadly, that wasn't actually confirmed, but I could definitely see it happening.
So I'm going to go with truth on that one.
But what was confirmed was a haul of over 2,000 nitrous oxide canisters,
commonly, well, not commonly, but known as hippie crack.
It's what you inhale.
It makes you go all light and fuzzy.
And apparently these guys just absolutely love the stuff.
And it was like the canisters were just left everywhere in the hotel,
in rooms, hallways, just everywhere.
And it didn't look great.
And the drug problem developed.
First, a couple of people overindulged on mushrooms proceed to have a bad trip
and were escorted off the premises into an ambulance.
People continue to drink too much and emergency assistance had to be requested for several attendees to be taking care of.
And while these people were having the time of their lives in the back of ambulances,
just at the other end of the car park, two people were arrested for drug dealing and drug possession.
So it's like everywhere you look, something's going on.
But while all this was going on, there was actually a convention going on around all the rabid partying.
If you went into the main hall, you could be treated to such sites as grown men roaming around wearing nothing but diapers, which is nice.
It's a fun fact that I learned.
This act of wearing diapers has a name.
It's called crinkling after the noise that makes when they walk around.
Yeah, that's not good at all.
That shook me to my core a little bit.
And yes, of course, some of those diapers were indeed full.
It does make you feel a bit better about yourself, though, doesn't it?
Yeah, this is, I mean, this is a bucket list to take off if I've ever seen one.
It's a bit of an ego boost hearing about what these guys are up to.
I don't know why I expected, like, why was that a surprise to me that some of the diapers were full?
Like, I just thought, okay, they wear them.
That alone is, I mean, you know.
Cosmetic diapers.
I wouldn't normally yuck anyone's young, but that's kind of, I mean, you know, that's pretty.
All respect to fairies.
The majority are lovely people, but here's a highlight of the worst.
But yeah, I assumed it was maybe more of a cosmetic kind of, you know, an outfit effectively.
It's a costume.
But no, functional.
When you go as far as to put them on, you may as well make use of them.
Why not?
Why not?
Especially when the toilet is out of order.
Yeah, maybe that's it.
They just bought them in as a means of going bathroom when they needed to.
Later on, some attendees just started throwing food and used diapers.
pus around freely in the gardens and stairways of the hotel. And yeah, you can imagine the kind of
war scene that the hotel looked like at this point. In the complete other end of the spectrum,
there was a complaint made which rainforest staff addressed during another public announcement
in which they kindly asked hotel guests to use their hands for the elevator buttons rather
than their feet. Oh, God. That's weird. I guess if you've got a state, no, that doesn't even
make sense in like animal character. He's got, you've got arms.
Anyway, in the end, after this tally, this absolutely disgraceful tally of events, the future was over for the con.
The Hilton submitted a letter listing all of the reasons Rainforest would not be allowed at their venue from now on.
The hotel damage was more than all other cons combined for that year.
So that's quite a good, quite a good hit they had there.
So like one, a couple of days over overshadowed the entirety of the rest of the year.
But it wasn't just the damages.
was insured and had over $150,000 in the bank to pay it all.
So theoretically, like, it would have been a massive loss,
but at least they could be safe from legal repercussions.
But in the end, apparently the Hilton Hotel just literally said,
no, don't contact us anymore.
We don't want your money.
Just go.
We don't want to deal with you anymore.
We'll fix this.
Just never contact us again.
And as you can expect,
hotel chains talk.
And quickly, hotels all across the country remain aware of just what had unfolded at Rain
first and were prompted to ban them from ever hosting a convention ever again. And while there was
plans for a rainforest 2016, they just literally couldn't find anywhere that would house them. And so
since then, it's been totally cancelled, never to be seen again. Wow. I'm going to Google this
and see if, I mean, I don't know if I want to see whether there are any photos, but, uh, oh,
yeah, there were plenty. I mean, of course there are because. Oh, share some of the best in,
in our chat. If you want to hear a bit about, uh, positive.
furry culture, go listen to one of our previous episodes where we delve into it a little bit
with the assistance of a member of our community. Oh, there's a guy in a napi. That's the one I just
found. Oh, no. Sorry, I should say yes, I've got, do what makes you happy. This is just more
pointing a light at just the scumbags who really ruin shit. Yeah, don't, um, don't, you know,
just, yeah, as you say, do what makes you happy, but don't, don't do it to an extent that it
impedes others.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, if you want to, like,
crinkle in the comfort of your own home,
if you want to use your crinkly,
go for it.
Yeah.
But just maybe not in a hotel, you know,
and maybe not in a swimming pool.
Yeah, maybe not.
Just an idea.
Does he have ankle restraints on that boy?
Oh, he does, doesn't he?
Yeah.
He's got one of the dog masks on as well.
Now, we were advised in our previous fairy conversation
that it is not all sexual.
No, no.
But it sure does seem like a lot of the stuff coming out of this convention was pretty sexual.
It's just a very loud, well, we're led to believe it's the minority, certainly a loud section of the community, whether they're the minority or not.
There's a lot of...
I apologize and advanced to furries out there.
Kinky stuff going on at this particular convention based on the photos that I'm looking at.
That's definitely a handpick selection.
I'm sure there's plenty of smiling children pausing with...
Oh, they're kind of being children.
at this, right? Oh, God, I didn't actually...
Surely not. Oh, it looks like it, actually.
Oh, no. I found an image
here that says this was taken at
rainforest, but I don't
know if it was.
It's very easy for someone to just post this
picture on the internet and say, oh, that
was taken at the fairy convention, but
maybe it was. It is outside.
So who's to say?
It's just someone hugging a mascot.
A small human, may I add. Not just
any human. It continues to fascinate me, this
community.
yeah it's got to have so many questions
like while researching this
I found another
furry group that call themselves
the burned furs
and they were like
they were there to counter
I'm reading from a Wikipedia now
they were there to counter public acts of perversion
within the furry fandom and apparently they got
like quite violent
and like really oppressive
like became like this weird fascist
police force within the furies to
Keep everything pure.
So I might have to read into them properly one day and see if that's worth delving into.
The only way to stop a bad furry with a nappy is a good furry with a nappy, right?
A good furry with some pull-up pants.
Yes.
Sort of like a can-do or something.
Oh, that'd be brilliant.
Yeah.
They want to do a poo at all.
That's for sure.
You want to do a poo wherever.
They don't care.
And that's that's for, that's for, that's for, that's for, I hope you enjoy.
Thank you, Michael.
Thanks for that, Mikey.
You're very welcome.
Let's go to another question this time from Dr. Otto Cano at Otto Cano underscore art on Twitter.
If each of you were to release a poddyat's perfume slash after shave, what sense would you choose?
Oh.
4 a.m. Cabab Shop.
Okay.
Oh, 4 a.m. specifically.
The chill grill, perhaps.
Oh, chill grill at 4 a.m.
God, yeah.
That's a smell to be whole.
It's not a nice one, but it's interesting.
You know, people smell that and, like, they can't help but lock onto you in a room like,
ah, this man, this man's got a storied past of disappointing cheesy chips and grime on the floor.
I love him.
I would maybe choose just to sort of post some tap scent.
So it smells of those like squishy stress things that have that weird artificial smell mixed with maybe like fruit loops.
Hot and spicy Cheetos.
Burger pillow for good measure.
The burger pillow.
Which didn't smell at all.
You know, the plasticy smell of bubble wrap.
Everything.
Just everything we've ever received.
Sickly smell sweet of sweets and milk a lot to galore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, that's a good one.
And sort of the kind of cigarette smoke we would sometimes smell
when people had sent things they'd bought at carboot sales and charity shops.
from, they've been sitting in Smokers' houses for a long time.
The yellow PlayStation 2 labels, they were the best.
Yeah, run the full spectrum of smells.
Oh, beautiful.
Ah, man, I'm trying to think.
I'm trying to think of one.
You've hit the nail on the head there.
Perhaps the Asda cake.
Oh, yeah.
A birthday cake smell, that very basic vanilla Victoria sponge
with that icing on it.
With a hint of shame from the ladies
you had to ask about printing the cable.
Yeah, just a small hint of shame.
I wouldn't mind that, actually.
Like, old school cake smell in a candle.
That'd be pretty good.
Yeah.
It'd be all right.
Trying to think if our room had a smell.
I don't know that it did.
Probably only after we'd been filming in it for a while.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
It smelled of paint for a few weeks.
It did?
It did.
new yellow smell.
A Pottiet specific smell, though.
What would that be?
Podiat specific, not just, not Vidiot.
Not Vidiots in general, but a Pottiet's perfume slash aftershave.
That is a tricky one.
Yeah, I'm trying to think.
A slightly metallic smelling one in memory of Kevin.
Oh, Kevin. RIP.
Yeah.
Been a while since we've mentioned him.
Sorry, Kev.
In my notes for the podcast, it still says mention Kevin, just to remind me at the beginning
of each episode.
Got to talk about Kevin.
He still lives on the arts.
He does.
Yeah.
He does.
Oh man.
Come on.
There's got to be something super obvious, right?
That we're missing.
Maybe one that smells of what the Psycho Seagull left on Dave Benson and Phillips car.
Oh, God.
Just.
Yeah, that sounds great.
Yeah.
Sprade that all over me.
Mm-hmm.
Sounds lovely.
We've got meat face.
Maybe cooked meat face.
I was thinking, yeah.
Order Feldhue's meat factory.
Yeah.
meat facery
yeah that's it
order meat facery
Jesus Christ
odor rainforest
no
oh no
absolutely not
no
well it's been
about three and a half
minutes and no one said
garlic and chips
so I just want to applaud
us for that
oh well done
because I was waiting
I was timing it
I was waiting for someone
to say it and nobody did
so
we're really recovering
hey look at us go
well done
there we are
there's our perfume coming
soon. Smells of literally everything
that we've ever received in post some tat.
Can we just call it? I can fucking smell it.
I can fucking smell it. No, that would be the tagline
on the advert. Yeah.
Poddy it's after shave.
You can fucking smell it?
Go and ask.
Go and ask. Go and ask your local beautician.
Oh, God. Okay.
It's time for my thing.
Excellent.
And it is time to talk about
the man who sold the Eiffel Tower twice.
Oh my god
Sold
Okay
This is a brilliant write-up
From Smithsonianmagg.com
By Jeff Meish
Cut some things out
For the sake of brevity
But I recommend you go read it
Here we are, you ready to learn about this man
Yes please
Count Victor Lustig
46 years old at the time of his incarceration
Was America's most dangerous con man
In a lengthy criminal career
His sleight of hand tricks and get-rich-quick schemes
had rocked jazz era America and the rest of the world.
Finally, in 1935, Lustig was captured
after masterminding a counterfeit banknote operation
so vast that it threatened to shake confidence
in the American economy, in the American economy.
It might sound like an evil name.
Count what, von Lustig?
Count Victor Lustig.
Lustig, but I believe Lustig, it means funny.
Let me translate it into English.
Okay.
How funny.
I think.
Well, we'll find out how funny he is.
A judge in New York sentenced him to 20 years on Alcatraz.
Lustig was unlike any other inmate to arrive on the rock.
He dressed like a matinee idol, possessed a hypnotic charm,
spoke five languages fluently, and evaded the law like a figure from fiction.
One secret service agent wrote that Lustig was,
as elusive as a puff, I think he means linear,
of cigarette smoke and as charming as a young girl's dream.
Oh, wow.
While the New York Times editorialized, he was not the hand-kissing type of bogus count, too keen for that.
Instead of theatrical, he was always the reserved, dignified noble man.
The fake title was just the tip of Lustig's deceptions.
He used 47 aliases and carried dozens of fake passports.
He created a web of lies so thick that even today his true identity remains shrouded in mystery.
On his Alcatraz paperwork, prison officials called him Robert V. Miller, which was just another of his
pseudonyms. The conman had always claimed to hail from a long line of aristocrats, who owned
European castles, yet newly discovered documents reveal more humble beginnings. In prison interviews,
he told investigators that he was born in the Austria-Hungarian town of Hostinay on January 4,
1890. Lustig claimed he stole to survive, but only from the greedy and dishonest. In the early 1900s
as a teenager, Lusig scampered up the criminal ladder, progressing from panhandler to pickpocket to
burglar, to street hustler. According to True Detective Mysteries magazine, he perfected every
card trick known, palming, slipping cards from the deck, dealing from the bottom. And by the
time he reached adulthood, Lustig could make a deck of cards do everything but talk.
First-class passengers aboard transatlantic ships became his first victims. The newly rich
were easy pickings. When Lustig arrived in the United States at the end of World War I, the
roaring 20s were in full swing and money was changing hands at a fevered pace.
Lustig quickly became known to detectives in 40 American cities as The Scarred,
thanks to a livid two and a half inch gash along his left cheekbone,
a souvenir from a love rival in Paris.
Yet Lustig was considered a smoothie, apparently,
who had never held a gun and enjoyed mounting butterflies.
What a smoothie? That's a turn of phrase I'd never heard before.
It's new to me as well. It must be time, must be period.
Appropriate.
Yeah, smoothie, Jenkins.
You're a smoothie.
He enjoyed mounting butterflies.
You can get to jail for that.
Yeah, I think he can, yeah.
Records show that he was just five foot, seven inches tall and weighed 140 pounds.
His most successful scam was the Romanian money box.
It was a small box fashioned from cedar wood with complicated rollers and brass styles.
Lustig claimed the contraption could copy banknotes using radium.
Lustig's repertoire also included fake horse race schemes, feigned seizure.
during business meetings and bogus real estate investments.
These capers made him a public enemy and a millionaire.
According to the crime magazine True Detective,
Lustig was a man who society took by one hand,
the underworld by the other,
a flesh and blood jackal hide.
On November 3rd, 1919, he married a pretty Kansan named Roberta Noray,
a memoir by Lustig's late daughter,
recalls how Lustig raised a secret family
on whom he lavaged his ill-gotten gains.
gains. The rest he spent on gambling and on his lover, Billy May Shibble, the buxom owner of a
million-dollar prostitution racket. The life this man has led is crazy. Then, in 1925, he embarked
upon what swindling experts call the big store. Lustig arrived in Paris in May of that year,
according to the memoir of US Secret Service agent James Johnson. There, Lustig commissioned
stationery carrying the official French government seal. Next, he presented.
presented himself at the front desk of the Hotel de Creon, a stone palace on the Place
de la Concorde. From there, pretending to be a French government official, Lestig wrote to the
top people in the French scrap metal industry, inviting them to the hotel for a meeting.
Because of engineering faults, costly repairs, and political problems I cannot discuss,
the tearing down of the Eiffel Tower has become mandatory, he reportedly told them in a quiet
hotel room, the tower would be sold to the highest bidder, he announced. His audience was captivated
and their bids flowed in. It was a scam Lustig pulled off more than once, sources said.
Amazingly, the con man liked to boast about his criminal achievements and even penned a list of
rules for would-be swindlers. They're still circulated today. Would you like to hear his
Lustig's Ten Commandments of the con? Oh, I'd love to. Yes, please. Number one, be a patient
listener, it is this not fast talking that gets a con man his coos.
Number two, never look bored.
Number three, wait for the other person to reveal any political opinions, then agree with them.
Number four, let the other person reveal religious views, then have the same ones.
Number five, hint at sex talk, but don't follow it up unless the other fellow shows a strong interest.
Oh, that's a weird one.
Number six, never discuss illness unless some specials.
concern is shown. Number seven, never prying to a person's personal circumstances. They'll
tell you all eventually. Number eight, never boast. Just let your importance be quietly obvious.
I love that, I don't really know what it means, but it's great. Number nine, never be untidy,
and number ten, never get drunk. Like many career criminals, it was a greed, sorry, that led
to Lustig's demise. Lustig had the audacity to trick a Texas sheriff with his money box and
later gave him counterfeit cash, which attracted the attention of the Secret Service.
Victor Lustig was a top man in the modern world of crime, wrote another agent called Frank
Seckler. He was the only one I ever heard of who swindled the law.
Teeming up with Gangland Forger William Watts, Lustig created banknotes so flawless
they fooled even bank tellers.
Lustig Watts notes were the super notes of the era, says Joseph Bowling, Chief Judge
of the American Numismatic Association, a specialist in authentic notes,
Lustick daringly chose to copy $100 bills, those scrutinized most by bank tellers, and became, like some other government, issuing money in rivalry with the United States Treasury, a judge later commented.
It was feared that a run of fake bills this large could wobble international confidence in the dollar.
Catching the count became a cat and mouse game for the Secret Service.
Lusig travelled with a trunk of disguises and could transform easily into a rabbi, a priest, a bellhop or a porter.
dressed like a baggage man
he could escape any hotel in a pinch
and even take his luggage with him
but the net was closing in
it feels like this guy is the basis
for almost every conman in every movie
yeah this is very catch me if you can isn't it
it is there must be a movie about this guy
if there isn't people are really
missing out on
they are an easy story
it's the first I've heard of him honestly
yeah me too
Lustig finally fell to tug on the velvet collar of his Chesterfield coat on a New York
Street corner on May the 10th, 1935.
A voice ordered, hands in the air.
It was a victory for the Secret Service, but not for long.
On the Sunday before Labor Day, September the 1st, 1935, Lustig escaped from the in
inescapable Federal Detention Centre in Manhattan.
He fashioned a rope from bed sheets, cut through his bars, and swung from the window like an
urban Tarzan.
When a group of onlook has stopped and pointed, the prisoner took a rag from his
pocket and pretended to be a window cleaner. Landing on his feet, Lustig gave his audience a polite
bow and then sprinted away, and it says in quotes here, like a deer. Lusdig evaded the law.
I can picture that, yeah. He was, yeah, he was, he's something else. Lustig evaded the law
until the Saturday night of September the 28th, 1935. In Pittsburgh, the dashing crook
ducked into a waiting car on the city's north side, watching from a hiding position,
federal officers leapt into their cars and gave chase. For nine blocks, their vehicle,
rode neck and neck, engines roaring. When Lustig's driver refused to stop, the agents rammed their
cars into his, locking their wheels together. Sparks flew. The cars crashed to a halt. The agents
pulled their service weapons and threw open the doors, and according to the Pittsburgh Post
Gazette, Lustig told his captors, well boys, here I am.
What a boy. Count... Like a deer. Like a deer, yeah. Count Victor Lustig was hauled before
the judge in New York in November 1935. Just before sentencing, another judge.
journalist overheard a secret service agent telling Lustig,
count, you're the smoothest con man that ever lived.
And then they kissed, probably.
Mm. Yeah.
As soon as he stepped onto Alcatraz Island,
prison guard searched Lustig's body for concealed watch springs and razor blades
and hosed him down with freezing seawater.
They marched him along the main corridor between the cells,
known as Broadway, in his birthday suit.
There was a chorus of howls, whistles,
and the clanging of metal cups against bars.
He is somewhat superficially humiliated.
Lustick's prison record said.
Whatever his true identity, the cold weather took its toll on prisoner number 300.
By December 9, 1946, Lustick had made a staggering 1,192 medical request
and filled 507 prescriptions.
The prison guards believed he was faking, that his illness was part of an escape plan.
He was transferred to a secure medical facility in Springfield, Missouri,
where doctors soon realized he was not faking.
There, he died from complications arising from pneumonia.
Somehow Lustig's family kept his death a secret for two years until August the 31st, 1949.
But Lustig's Houdini-like departure from Earth was not even his greatest deception.
In March of 2015, a historian named Thomas Andell from Lustig's hometown of Hostinay
began a tireless search for biographical information about the town's most famous citizen.
He must have attended school in Hostinay, Andal reasoned in the Hostinay bulletin,
yet he is not mentioned in the list of pupils attending the list of pupils attending
the local primary school.
After much searching, Undell concluded
there is not a scrap of evidence that Lustig
was ever born.
We may never know the true identity
of Count Victor Lustig, but we do know
for certain that the world's most flamboyant
con man died at
8.30pm on March the 11th,
1947. On his death certificate,
a clerk wrote this for his occupation.
Apprentice Salesman.
Right.
And that's it.
That works out.
That's Victor Luch.
Lustig and the absolutely bonkers con man life that he was able to lead.
The kind of stuff that you absolutely would not be able to do today in a million years.
And he did it, he did all of it.
That could have been 15, 20 different people doing each of those scams.
And apparently the good old days of being able to say and do kind of whatever you want with confidence
and people just taking your word for it and going along with it.
People, you can do that, but now people just Google something on their phones, it's a lot harder to deceive.
So rest in peace, this wonderful kind of criminal.
Yeah, I love that, I love all that kind of stuff.
Like you say, Ben, you can't really do a lot of this kind of thing now.
And obviously, that's a good thing in the sense that people are less likely to get,
it used to be the victims of crime, people are less likely to escape from prison.
But, you know, there was a kind of golden age of, you know, amazing cons.
jail breaks and stuff
like the guys who escaped from
Alcatraz
that was genius
where they like
they made a load of fake heads
out of Papier-Mashe or something
with hair on them and stuff
and then placed those on their pillows
so that the guards wouldn't realize
that they weren't sleeping in their beds
until the morning
and you know
I think they didn't like form a raft
out of like old raincoats
that they gathered around from the prison
or something like that
probably I mean yeah
I don't even know, but I think a few people escaped.
Some people were like brought back in and a couple of people never got found.
And I think it's assumed that they drowned, but no one knows.
But yeah, wow.
It is bonkers.
Is it, it's Wes Anderson, isn't it, Mikey, who did Isle of Dogs and Grand Budapest Hotel?
Oh, yeah, he'd be good.
I can, I'm picturing this movie.
Yeah, I'm picturing this as a Wes Anderson movie.
Yeah, because it's so far.
that it doesn't, it doesn't feel possible.
Yeah, you need some kind of comical angle on it, don't you?
I looked up the man who sold the Eiffel Tower on IMDB,
and there is a film listed in pre-production.
The poster is the most MS paint job of the scenes.
I'm not very hopeful.
It's a dreadful, oversharpened picture of the Eiffel Tower
with just the most MS-paint, dodgy word art.
But next to it, it doesn't look very official at all.
Yeah, that's a whole.
Yeah, that's probably a low-budget production.
Someone needs to make this into a proper movie.
Go on, damn it.
But yeah, go find the article if you want.
The man who sold the Eiffel Tower twice.
Smithsonian Mag, very, very good write-up, very comprehensive.
A real story.
But it was actually from 2016, this article, so it was a while ago.
Oh, shit.
But, you know, he died a lot longer ago than that.
He did.
It doesn't really matter.
There we are.
That was my thing.
Would you guys, like a final question,
Yes, please.
Let's have it.
It's from John Stewart at J. Stewart film on Twitter.
So is episode 50 dead or are you'd till doing that live when the panorama ends in three years?
For God's sake.
Beautiful.
I mean by all counts, yes, that's still happening.
Oh, we've got the message in front of us.
You have a read that for me, Mikey.
So is episode 50 dead or are you'd till?
doing that live when the panorama
ends in three years. Yeah, that's exactly what it says.
That's beautiful. Perfect.
Yeah, I mean, by all means,
we're still, we're not just
pushing them into the fiery depths of nothingness.
They are still planned.
Yeah.
I don't know if you've been aware the last two years
has been quite difficult to...
There's been a panorama on panorama, yeah.
A really good episode as well.
Yeah, but I think, fingers crossed,
I mean, this is just me going off my own head here,
but at some point this year,
You can very much expect those.
I will be, I will be, I'm due a good proper visit up north.
So I will be, I will be, we'll put in the damn effort and get it done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There are a couple of occasions where we will all be together this year.
I mean, not that, like, because at my wedding will be together,
although probably not going to have time on the day to do a audience.
But, and then, yeah, if you do a visit up here or if we visit down there, you know,
now that it's allowed.
I'm sure there will be multiple opportunities
for us to finally do episode 50.
Yeah, we want to do it in person.
That's the plan.
And we're closing on episode 100 as well.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we're probably going to skip over that one too.
What episode are we on now?
Oh, like 92 or something?
Oh, my God.
Jesus, well, that close.
Yeah, 94.
This is 94.
94.
So we are, I mean, they're fortnightly episodes.
So we got a few weeks,
It's, yeah, certainly we may end up having to record episode 50 and 100 at the same time.
That's mad.
Yeah, but the short answer is, John, we are till doing that live now that the panorama is hopefully coming to a close.
Yes, well, we'll see.
But we'll learn to live with it, at least.
We're just rereading John Stewart's tweet at the end.
Does he imply that there's still another three years of panorama to come?
Well, maybe John does something.
you know about the panorama that we don't.
John, please hurry things along for us.
Go on.
The mission, what's the character in the Matrix?
The controller or something?
Yeah.
He oversees everything.
John, come on.
Do yous a favour.
Come on, John.
I don't think I can enter year four of the Peper Army at this point.
You're tired, John.
Let us go.
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Nothing's out on videos this week
four years ago
because we hadn't launched yet
But by next episode, we might have.
Someone dug up the 501 tweet we were talking about last time.
I should, I should, I'm going to find that and find the date for it.
Because we can, that should be earmarked as an important day in Vividient's history.
I was going through my work computer when I got in today and just clearing it out of a load of stuff.
And in my downloads folder, about two years ago, for some reason, I don't know if I did it by accident.
I downloaded the
teaser we put out
where it was just a yellow V
and it was like 2001
Space Odyssey music
playing at the dawn of man or whatever it's called
you know
I saw that today actually
that's probably about right
for this time four years ago
still got you want to guess
gone Mikey
I was just said do you want to guess when
the announcement tweet came out
um
gent
hmm
January the, it wasn't January the 5th, was it, like early?
I didn't expect it.
No, no, a bit later than that.
Late Jan, like the, I don't know, today?
You're both completely off.
It's the 12th of January.
Sadly, we've missed it.
So I'll have to celebrate that anniversary next year.
The justice it deserves.
This time next year, we'll just have to do it then.
Oh, yeah.
I was going to say, I've still got all of the very early, um,
vidiates assets that Mikey mocked up,
different logos and color schemes and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Stuff involving VHS tapes that I thought
looked really cool.
Yeah.
Got it somewhere.
We should do it.
We should post those at some point.
On my computer at work, I've still got every raw recording from every video.
Wow.
Yeah.
You're still not the same PC, won't you?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm still using the same PC.
I need to move them off at some point.
Maybe if I like a dig around and see if there's any weird goodies hidden in there.
Yeah, I've got all the raw footage for pretty much everything we did in that time.
Wow.
That's amazing.
It's crazy.
a bound to.
That's what he'd say
from the burning building.
Yes.
Mikey's PC tower.
Speaking of Mikey's PC tower,
Mikey, where can people find you
on the internet?
Something about that PC tower.
You can come to my Twitter tower
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where I
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And I stream on occasion
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I play lots of
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I stream on occasion
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excellent
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I'm sure they all know by now
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They're just somewhere better than memory cards in that they have not been completely axed.
They're not dead, they're just changing.
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