Podiots - Podiots: Episode 97 - AITA?

Episode Date: March 29, 2022

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were flipping wonderful so thank you you can view the full vod now on the youtube channel if you want to go check it out see all the crazy times that we had see some fantastic DVD games the height of gaming as idiots is known for yeah so good oh dear well back to to business as usual. Let's run that music, shall we? Yes, I suppose so. Hello, everybody, and welcome to Poddy. It's the official.

Bam, Viddias. Podcast. It's a conversational podcast where we take some questions from you at home and obey the law of the three urs, where everybody brings Earthing. along to talk about. I'm Ben. I'm Peter.

And I'm Michael. Hey, it's good to chat with you, boys again. It's been a minute. We've delayed a couple of episodes this month, which is not like us. We usually stay pretty on target, but various things have happened. But we're here, and we're ready to have some silliness. Are you prepared for the afternoon? Silliness coming out of the wazoo, my friend.

Right. If you have silliness coming out of your wazoo, please consult. position. You've had too much dominoes if you haven't sillyness come out. No, silliness is coming out of my wazoo again. Oh no. Not again. Are you good, Mikey? I'm Gucci. The sun shining. I'm just a simple little plant. All I need to be happy is a bit of sunshine and my God is the lovely, lovely sun delivering. It's all I can talk about the minute. I try not to live up to British stereotypes. It's sun. The sun's out. Yeah, look at that. Oh, it's hot, isn't it? Yeah. Hope it doesn't get cold again soon.

It's literally what me and Ashton talked about on the way to and on the way back from Tesco at lunchtime today. Isn't it nice? Oh, yeah. It's great. It's riveting. It's riveting. It's done in the sun before sharing sunnictodes.

Oh, sunnictotes is good. I like that. That's fun. Mikey, have you considered, now that, again, go watch the stream vod if you haven't seen it already. Now that you are a shaved-headed man. Oh, yes. I want to updates on that anyway, generally,

speaking what's life like now but also now that it's sunny isn't it sunny isn't it sunny isn't it have you thought about the sun cream situation are you going to have to sun cream your dome well baldheadedness for a start Jesus Christ it's breezy like immediately after the stream

finished I ran down the stairs and I felt like a cold breeze of my head I was like oh my god that's weird I never felt that before it's just like day to day activities now feel generally colder it's nice though I'm very streamlined and aerodynamic which I'm a big fan.

You're so much faster now. But yes, the sun is attacking my little dome. I went on Saturday. I had a big grand day out and came home with a quite stingy head, which is great. But I'm actually quite enjoying my short-haired style. I think I maybe won't go full ball again, but I'm not opposed to a buzz cut now. Now I know it's there. It's an option.

I think, yeah, it's a life-changing experience. Thanks, Charity, for making this possible for me. Thank you, Charity. Now I've spent hours doing my hair every morning, God. The time I've saved as immense. It's all done. We should all do it. Everyone on earth.

All of us. Think how fast we'll all be. Yeah. Brilliant. How are you, Peter? Are you well? I'm very well, thank you. Yes.

I've managed to dodge the office COVID wave. Also, touchwood, so far, dodging all the colds and flus that are around. We've had colds in the office. There is a cold at home with its insoled. my fiance. The cold inside my fiance. Very few things are allowed inside my fiancé. Least of all a cold.

And I so far have dodged that as well. Nice. We'll see how we get on. I think Ben's done it right though. I was saying to get it now. Then you've got your antibodies. Hot boy summer. Bam.

You're going to be safe. You can do whatever hell you want. No, hang on. You didn't call it Hot Boy Summer, Michael. You called it White Boy Summer. I was all about that. Pink Boy Summer. pink lobster boy summer i don't know if i'm all about hot boy summer i don't know if i um if i fit the bill

you know i don't know if they're looking for boys like me white boy summer though as you do a t i am ready for white boy summer that's for sure well i was going to say how are you doing then but i'm doing much better now thank you my undefeated streak with covid ended last week um all the week before i suppose i tested positive after it went around the office to a couple of people and uh well it was shit not quite a shit as i imagine it was for a lot of people who weren't double jabbed and boosted but it was still pretty rubbish um so yeah i'm i'm over it now bit snotty but i don't know if i've maybe transitioned seamlessly directly into one of those colds yeah it's possible so yeah it's a stowaway came in with the covid all uh all nostrils are go current

so congratulations on retaining your sense of smell and taste though that was a thank you that was a really lucky one yeah it did dull a bit but then it came back almost immediately and i was really happy about that sounds odd sounds like it's very weirding yeah it's just one day and i just woke up and i couldn't smile anything's like oh oh no and i started getting smells but they were just like really foul smells this is worse take me back to the no smells i hate this is terrible well we're all in fine health though sort of currently i think I mean, Mikey makes a good point. Maybe I should just go around, like, licking COVID things.

You should really catch it. Like I have like a pox party. Yeah, I don't want to get it. Yeah. Like when I'm supposed to be married, for example, in a few months' time. Well, go to an anti-vax demonstration. You'll probably pick it up. You'll pick something up.

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you would want removed from the web say an annoying meme or a website or app that makes life worse Secretary of State for digital for digital culture, media and sport okay it's a hell of a ban on a hell of a lot of things

be in charge of yeah the best thing from like these these court cases were like massive massive internet conglomerates is just the asinine questions that get asked yeah it's so people are asking our business it's like how does it work

Like, how is this stored? Is it just in the air? No, it's hard drives in day or centers. But how is that why it's important to elect people who know what the fuck they're talking about? Not people who share minion memes on Facebook and that kind of thing. Yes, exactly. Speaking of which, Facebook, get in there. Yes, God, instant, just get away.

We've had this hand of time. Let's bring back Bebo or something good. Some good-natured social media. Anything you've done or worked on that you don't like? Well, that was partly what I thought of when the question was asked. It was like, is there anything out there that I find kind of, you know, embarrassing or that I wish it had been, you know, could be taken down? I don't think there's anything that springs to mind. I mean, I guess, like, maybe looking back now at some of my earlier what culture stuff, I'm sure that I would find some of those, you know, kind of, kind of a little bit off.

we've come a long way in terms of you know presenting and writing and so on so but you know I don't think I care enough that they're on the internet I don't think I'd want them removed I mean my gut was I was going to say something along the lines of Facebook I don't know what about you guys anything else I'm maybe this is just nostalgia speaking

but I missed the good old days what I consider the golden edge of the internet where it feels like now whenever I'm on the internet I flick between three sites and that's about it and that's about all I consume and I miss the days

where I had like a forum for everything like different communities now it's all like consolidated into one place with discord and whatnot but I... Subredits and stuff yeah yeah it's not the same I mean it is by all means the same

but it's not the same if you know what I mean so I think I'd fragment the internet and make things more difficult but it would make you know the pursuit the discoveries more exciting and more meaningful and it's all too easy now i agree like some of the communities i was involved in when i was you know kind of maybe like 13 14 and i was like i was

really hazed onto the internet by people that i you know shared forums with and uh you know that you know like some of the some of the stuff that i saw at that age and some of the stuff i was subjected to i think in a way it was quite character building um i know that there's obviously there are lines there certainly isn't feel anything anymore they were crossed yeah yeah they probably were but um i i i sort of

feel like i owe a lot to that sort of era of the internet um because i was a i was a member of forums for like um people who were doing i mean i didn't do flash animation but like there was a forum that had a load of animators on it and um you know stuff like that like i think that it kind of teaches you

you like what works creatively in terms of like you know making making funny content and so on and I think like being part of a community like that probably in some way has shaped the kind of sense of humor that I've got like the way that I probably write things and so on so yeah I think like there's a lot to be said for like smaller communities that are slightly lawless you know it's bit of a wild west internet but uh yeah all within the realms of keeping people safe still i wouldn't want anyone you know getting in getting in trouble but yeah yeah i mean again this might be me being old man yells at cloud but you know it's everything right now it's very clout chasey you know it's it's it's very much get numbers big that's the goal but i think yeah back i mean

at least when i was on forums like sharing crappy stick man animations just it was just a group people sharing shit and telling you like the most detestable words you've ever seen and making you to shock sites and I miss that yeah yeah you also have to remember though that access to the internet is is at an unprecedented level compared to where we were yeah sure I mean that's the reason well you know we all saw fucked up stuff as kids on the internet like infants have iPads you know there's so that that's, there's a level of safeguarding that has to be considered. But you are right about the clout chasing.

Like, it actively impacts Peter and I's day job, obviously, every day, because we don't have the right, perhaps, number of people, we don't, we don't have the right number next to a particular profile to be taken seriously by such and such place, for example. Like, yeah, certain PR or whatever. So it's not about the quality of the work you're putting out. It's about what number does that say? And that is important, but at the same time. I mean, you know, there's this whole toxic culture surrounding it where such importance is put on those numbers.

And it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be like that. Yeah. I mean, when you put it like that, in a sense, I mean, in terms of my day job, I wouldn't wish for this. But from a different angle, I would wish that YouTube wasn't monetizable. You know, if you could go back to the days before there were ads, before people were doing it to make a living. People were just doing it for, I mean, there were still, obviously, metrics like view counts and sub counts and stuff. and so people were still kind it was still an element of clout chasing even back then but

I think when people are just doing it essentially for the love of it and for a hobby and to just kind of again there was more of a sense of community back then I would say whereas now it's it's either big businesses you know like media networks or it's yeah individuals but they essentially are a business they're a brand they're you know they have huge bank accounts and deal with PR and stuff like that. I kind of miss just, you know, bedroom webcam vloggers and people just going out and about doing stupid stuff. I agree.

Very selfishly, I'd actually get rid of Fortnite. Wow. And that's not because I think Fortnite is bad, and I'm really glad so many mostly kids enjoy it. The problem is that it's such an unprecedented success. And we've definitely, you know, you can go check out triple jump if you want to hear more about this kind of topic of conversation. But it's such an unprecedented success.

and the level of success that it started to negatively impact the other games that I enjoy as other companies try to copy that success and I don't like that. I think Fortnite is so successful that it kind of should be left alone and keep that shit out of my otherwise single player games please. So yeah, just wipe it off. Just get rid of it. Sorry. Sorry kids. Every game that comes out now is Open World Minecraft Fortnite essentially. Yeah, nice service. I've got to have it. I don't like you. There we are. Wonderful.

Who's got a thing? I've got a thing. Yeah. I've got a lovely little thing. My thing is in regards to crime, punishment and most importantly, justice. If you want to hear about that. Punishment. And most importantly, crime.

Best ingredient. Right. So this is a tale that's been developing over the last couple of months. I'm slightly late to the party, but I still think it's such a fun little, little romp. I can't not share it. So this is in regards to our big fella, our number one guy, Hank the Tank. Okay. Are you guys familiar with him? Yes, I am. I don't know if I am. Oh, you've probably seen him about. He's a good boy. Well, he's not a good boy. Well, we'll get into that. Or is he? Oh, who will decide? We'll find out. So yes, you may know him

is Hank the Tank, but the California Department of Fish and Wildlife knows him as a threat to the Lake Tahoe neighborhood in California. I think it's not California. God, I said that was such confidence. Lake Tahoe in Atlanta. California. It straddles a straight line. Oh, I don't know where it is.

Anyway, oh, it's, yeah, it's in California. It's on the state line. Anyway. Okay. Four months now, the 500-pound black bear has been roaming the streets in the Tahoe Keys area of South Lake Tahoe. In the span of seven months, the animal caused extensive damage at

33 properties and forcefully entered at least 40 homes, which is just a terrifying image. Like, you imagine a 500 pound bear, and it's bigger than you think. I'm looking at pictures now. It's a big boy. I'm not familiar with this at all. Oh, it's a roller coaster of a story. A Facebook paste, paste, yeah, a lovely delicious paste by the department says he broke through a small window and somehow squeezed.

inside a house Friday when no one was there. He did not break into the garage, however, which is where the trash was kept. Clearly, this bears only interested in the good, high-quality stuff, the food in the houses. Officers banged on the exterior of the home until he left through the back door, which he very politely opened the door and just scarfed off. There's a picture attached to this of the window he squeezed through. It's like a big cat flap, and I've got no idea how he managed to get through it. It's absolutely, absolutely impressive, so I commend his efforts.

And Saturday, he is believed to have broken down a front door to enter yet another home. Police said they haven't confirmed the bearer's Hank yet, but believe it is likely him. There have been no direct attacks on humans or pets in the areas, the fish and the wildlife department said. So Hank's only interested in it for the food. He's not here to cause trouble. Well, I mean, he is, but he's responsible with his trouble. He's not a danger. He's just hungry. residents have flooded police lines with worried calls and the wildlife department said

more than 100 individual reports of the bear have come into the South Lake Tahoe Police though many residents have come face to face with the giant creature Hank is known in the area as a quote-unquote gentle giant I'm just going to say it fuck that I don't care how gentle a bear is supposed to be if I see that thing come towards me I'm fleeing The second I can. And they say here, the gentle giant is constantly hungry,

which makes sense for his size. Despite his harmlessness, authorities are determined to put a stop to the bear's wandering due to the property damage and fear he causes people. Wildlife Department spokesperson Peter Tira told CNN they have been tracking incidents with his black bear since the spring of 2021. Incidents primarily occurred over the fall,

summer and fall of 2021 when the bear was in hypophasia, adding calories to survive the winter. enter. This bear, according to the CDFW, has lost its fear of people almost entirely and now just associates people with access to food. And his large size helps him break into homes as he can push through front doors and garage doors with ease. Oh, what a terrifying image. Gary wants. Yeah, fuck you. He's a bear. He can't stop him. Just hide. Local residents, as well as authorities, have attempted to frighten hank away with loud noises, paintball guns and even tasers. But he continues to forage into homes.

The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm. Very good, very good. There are a few options to keep the community safe. The community and the bear safe. Got relocation, placing the bear in a facility, or as a last resort, euthanasia. This last option has local bear advocacy groups such as the Bear League concerned.

I love the Bear League. They are so good, isn't it? What a team of superheroes. I bet it's never even got any bears in it. They're just big fans of bears. Anne Bryant, executive director of the group, told CNN affiliate KCRA, the bear does not have to die. And so this was the first article where Hank was exposed to the global population.

And just a few short weeks afterwards, there was an exciting development in the case. DNA evidence has found that the black bear nicknamed Hank the tank, and it's just for fun here, also known as Jake or yogi or simply big guy really good selection of nicknames there turns out Hank the Tank is in fact at least three hefty bears who have damaged more than 30 properties around Lake Tahoe so our boy was getting

is they're threatened and they're just all wrapped up like in a big long overcoat so he can walk around and by 18 V8 chest is. It's just three bears in a skin. Yeah, so poor boy, he was threatening the worst for them. Turns out he wasn't alone and it would have, it would have no impact on proceedings if they got rid of this bear because turns out there's a whole gang.

Wow. The inquisitive sleuth of chunky bears faces being trapped by the Department of Fish and Wildlife on Thursday to collect evidence for genetic analysis. The trio will then be released in a suitable habitat and the agency said no trapped animals will be euthanized as part of the project. So counting this as a victory at least so far. Excellent. The bears are responsible

for more than 150 instant reports in the region straddling Northern California and Nevada, including a break in a residence in the Tahoe Keys area last week. This is from a mix of articles, so this is all past tense now. I think this is a quarter of the century from

Peter Tira. What's problematic about this bear is How large it is. Yes, absolutely. That's true, yeah. Pretty accurate. Once the trapping efforts begin, the three hanks, at least, three hanks, at least. There we go, right, emphasis, emphasis.

May well form a brigade. There was outrage from the residents over the bear hunt and even attempts to scare away the bear from the area by playing noisy music or spray painting the phrase bear killer on traps, even though Hank himself can't read. What? It's very bizarre. This is... I just put a sign there saying,

Hank, do not eat this bait. Do not go in cage. This is the signs of a community grip of fear. Try anything. Classic bear league. Classic bear league. Oh no, this is the anti-bear league, the ABL. Oh, no.

Where was I? When residents believe the sleuth of bears was just one, Hank, they reported that he was gentle and didn't cause any damage. However, not everyone is too fond of having a 500-pound teddy bear roaming the streets. A spokesperson for the local California Department of Fish and Wildlife, I can't say it a lot of times. Peter Tira told the New York Times, this is a bear that has lost all fear of people.

It is a potentially dangerous situation. On Wednesday, local police say they've been inundated with emergency calls about Hank. And after a while, the Wildlife Authority, in the area started facing numerous complaints and they said please stop calling us to give your opinions about Hank they wrote it in a Facebook post the bear league who have been advocating for Hank said in a Facebook post Hank no longer has a death sentence hanging over him and he is no longer going to have his freedom taking away from him by sending him to a sanctuary we fully support this decision and are grateful for the investigation into the truth that was taken seriously by the

experts within the CDFW. Plans are to place them in a, plans are in space. Oh, Jesus, Michael, this is a lot of, oh, I'm out of practice. Plans are in place for a spring program to better monitor bear activity in the keys and to help with better trash management.

Hello, and that seems futile because the bears are circumnavigating the trash and going straight to, you know, the pile of hot dogs in someone's kitchen. Meanwhile, along with all of us at the Bear League, please be hang. Be thankful that Hank, fuck me, God. Please be hangful. That Hank will be alive, wild and free, beating my chest in victory.

A boy got justice, despite the constant body shaming of him here. Come on, leave him alone. He can't help it. He's so big. I like to think the Bear League were the three other bears that they found DNA evidence for. All these posts are written by bears. That creates a really good, yeah. Oh, the bear's trying to free themselves, right?

Yeah, no, big fan of that. I'm trying to find pictures of the bear league to see who and what they are, but sadly, there's not a lot of resources. But yeah, that's the story of Hank the Tank. And just for reference, I'm going to check an image of Hank into a-hank. Yeah, very big boy. Yeah, very big. There he is.

He does look very coy and shy and polite, so. He does look very polite. Yeah, that's a polite bear. Definitely a gentle giant. I agree with that. description now. Gentle bear, no. He's got gentle eyes.

Yeah, and still, I don't know, even if I knew, like, if someone said to me for a fact, no, there's bear 100% safe. I'm not going near that thing. No. Absolutely not. No. Yeah, that's, that's the situation so far on, Hank. Things could develop further.

It's still early days, but at least hibernation seasons over. So theoretically, he's not as ravenously hungry anymore. Yeah. We can't have another haram-based situation, so nobody hunt him, please. No, please. Please, no. I'll do that. Thank you, Michael. Thanks, mate.

Thank you for listening. Well, I've got quite a fitting question to move on to now from Corrosion Audio, James, on Twitter, who says, have any of you had any scary encounters with a wild animal? Thank you, James. I've certainly not bumped into a 500-pound bear, but... No, I think, sadly, in the UK, it's not a hub for scary wildlife, is it? no no it's not um but maybe when you've been abroad or uh you know maybe maybe insects spiders things like that um i me and my sister were uh in a field next to our house and there was this dog in there

this like little terrier that looked just kind of harmless it was just kind of loose don't know where it had come from um and we knew that like you don't go over to dogs that you don't know but we were nowhere near it really we could just see it like just at the other end of the field and it kind of wandered over towards us very casual like looked like it was you know perfectly chill and then when it was quite close it suddenly ran over and just bit my sister on the leg and she had to go to I don't if she went to the GP or if she went to A&E but they had to like I don't if they had to give her an injection or they had to find out whether she needed an injection.

I don't know whether it is for... I think actually, like... I seem to remember it being a tetanus injection, even though that's from like rusty metal, isn't it? No, rusty dog. Rusty dog, yeah. Maybe for some reason you can get tetanus from dog teeth. I don't know.

I don't think it was a rabies injection, but you never know. Could have been. What about you guys? You ever had any encounters, animal encounters? I think I've had a couple now I think about it

I think two scariest were once on a holiday to Egypt as a kid when you know paddling around on the sea having a merry old time

and just in the water I see a sea snake coming towards me or like the other day like me and my parents were discussing them because I think there's like warnings

warnings about them all over the hotel and I saw that thing and I just did like a proper Homer Simpson yelp like a and just it's like it's like

Like, you know, when you're running in a dream and it's like slow motion and heavy and hard. And it was exactly like that thanks to being in water. And I just like powered through, got out of there, did not go back in the water again. I think they're mostly safe, but it's just not a nice surprise to see. Again, Turkey just outside the hotel, we went out for a walk and a group of wild dogs was there. And I was like, no, no, absolutely not. That's unpredictable. Let's just stay in tonight.

It's pretty terrifying. In terms of domestic wildlife, I've been assaulted by seagulls before. Horrible bastards. Once I saw just outside of the Yugg's office, a seagull picking apart a pigeon. That was nice. And once in the town centre, I just opened up my delicious, quite expensive sandwich. About to take the first bite, seagull swoops down, smacks you in the face, smacks it out my hands, and then 20 seagulls all piled in on it.

I was having to stand and watch. There's a massive group of people all just quietly laughed at me. It's great. No, I hate seagulls forever. Screw him. Embarrassed. Jeez. I think, yeah, mice in general.

I hate mice. There's skittish, weird. No, really? You're not a mice fan. If they're enclosed, it's fine, but when they're out in the open, they're really unpredictable. And I don't like uncertainty in an animal. And, yeah, they're cute to look at. But, no, just slow down, guys.

Be slow. We can deal with that. Stop being rodents, please. Stop that. I've never really encountered any scary animals. I was, when I was in primary school, I was bitten by a dog. Oh, really? Yeah, I was just walking to the bus stop, and this guy was walking his dog,

and the dog was barking at me, but I was, you know, I had to walk past the dog, and then the dog just bit me on the hamstring, like, just below my ass. Bit me on the back of the leg. I was like, what the fuck? And they didn't know how to react. He was like, oh, bad dog, and then just walked off. I'm like, okay. Never got it checked out.

I think it, you know, clearly wasn't as bad as your sister's situation. I guess because the one that bit her, we didn't know whether it was like owned or stray or what, whereas... Yeah, this one was definitely owned, but I don't know much more about it. But that's it. That's my only real scary experience with animals. Have I ever talked about my brother's anxious dog, like clinically anxious? No, no, I don't think so. My brother's got two French bulldogs. Like really sweet animals, very cute, breathing.

problems for days but you know cute that's the main thing um and one of them's fine totally totally chill dog but the other one for some reason just has this deep sense of dread and anxiety instilled into his every fiber and so he's great around my brother and his wife like gets on fan with them but anyone else he transforms into this scared rabid dog um i have never crap myself so much we were we're going out for a walk with him it's like all right let's get in the car um i got the lucky seat of being in the back seat with the dogs. Just as we pulled out, one of the dogs just snapped at me, started barking in my face, ferociously.

I was like, oh God, oh God, deep down I knew it wasn't going to hurt me. Like these dogs, it was just fear. It wasn't anger or anything like that. So for the rest of the car ride, my brother had to drive one hand on the wheel, one hand on the dog, keeping him back while he barked at me for the entire journey. It was horrifying. See, this is why I'm not a huge fan of dogs. I don't dislike dogs and I had a dog growing up

but it's things like this they have the capacity for unspeakable violence that kind of puts me off ever really owning one as an adult I don't really like meeting other people's dogs either it's always oh she's so friendly and it's like right right in your fucking face

get out of my personal space please much prefer cats they just sort of they don't need me and that's fine yeah after having a cat for a year now um very much on the cat side the fence cats cats are the best yeah i'm not willing to draw a line in the sand like that because i know people get really tribal about it but yeah i've had negative experiences with dogs yeah oh i've sort of the key impetus of the story over there my brother's dogs was that he went to doggy therapy for months doggy therapy yes yes that exists um so i think

as you know exercise to try and calm him down getting used to new places new people um i think it went well but unfortunately he's back to his usual anxious self he's a scary dog man well-meaning but um no thank you keep him away from me yeah a therapist they were at my brother's wedding wearing little tuxedos and that was cute but um just they barked through the entire ceremony no wonder they feared wildly and then buddy hell after the ceremony he went out to the foyer the the place and um a horse wagon that's what they called right pulled up two no one giant horse came coming out and I was like no please don't it's like um the wife's beloved horse I was like please don't don't let the dogs and horse be near each other

please I don't want to get kicked in the face and obviously instantly they started barking and they were they escorted away from the premises for some photos but Jesus yeah fun fun brilliant I once went canoeing in was in France I think we're just going down it's like where you hire the canoes at one place, you ride them for like 40 minutes downstream and then you drop them off with the other person who works for the company, like down the river. And as we were going along, at one point,

we just noticed there was a snake in the water coming towards us, just like kind of doing a left-right wobbly body maneuver. I have to describe it, you know, like an S. It's slithering. Well, yeah, but in the water. So slithering, to me, implies kind of going on ground. But yeah, slithering in the water, but very, very S-shaped, kind of waving left and right, just coming right towards the canoe.

I think it was probably just crossing the river, but the way it had lined up, it was just coming directly at us. So, again, like Mikey, would just suddenly desperately start paddling. There's nothing quite like a snake coming towards your boat to make you get some gains. so it's time for a thing Ben would you like to do a thing sure oh yeah I'll do a thing okay are you guys familiar with the subreddit

am I the arsehole yes okay so I've not actually taken this from am I the asshole but for people who are unfamiliar it's when you well people go on there and they post their stories and they ask am I the asshole

based on the story or like is the other person involved the asshole and people have to react and let them know if they're the asshole or not, who is the asshole, or if there are indeed any assholes. I saw this story on the Metro.com.com. And I really don't know how to feel about it because it's painted in a really ambiguous way

that makes it seem like someone did the right thing by getting revenge for something that happened to them. Right. But they come off sounding fucking awful. Okay. You can see both sides, but it's really morally gray. So I want to do our own,

Am I the asshole? And I really want to know what you guys think because I'm very conflicted. And I'm not going to read this. I'm going to try to read this quite straight without any inflection or emphasis to influence this telling of the story.

But feel free to interrupt me at any point. Here we go. This is a story posted today at 3.51 p.m., the 23rd of March when we're recording on the Metro, written by James Hocker Day. And the title is dancer waited eight years for revenge on woman who ended her career.

So here we are. A former dancer has told how she waited nearly a decade to get revenge on a rival who pushed her off stage ending her career. Landon Leroux wanted to be a dancer since she was a toddler and achieved her dream of joining a company at the age of 17. But she claims that her career came to a sudden end in a row about a boy. She said a colleague pushed her off stage after she saw her talking to her love interest. The digital...

Let me try that again. The digital marketing manager added the fall, left her unable to dance and she had to leave the company. Landon, who is now 35, waited eight years to get her revenge when a mutual friend told her

her nemesis was getting married. With just three days to go before the big day, Landon claimed she called all the wedding supplies to cancel the big day. Landon said, I always wanted to be a dancer.

My mom still has pictures of me performing when I was two or three years old. There's some photos. After being enrolled in classes throughout her childhood, she made it into her dance company at just 17 years old and was the youngest there. Landon said she was shoved by a dancer, who was 20 at the time, as she talked to a colleague her attacker had a crush on. We were just friends. I didn't have a car so he would drive me to church, she added. She ran up and did a cartoonish hip bash and pushed me off the stage while taking my place. At first I didn't feel anything because of the adrenaline, but then it started to hurt and my ankle was swollen.

Everyone thought I was overreacting until I started to cry and I was taken to the hospital. London broke her ankle and, and it says, and was, says she was devastated when she realized she'd have to drop out to the dance company as she would be in recovery for too long. I went off to university and danced as a backup option, but eventually realized I wouldn't be a dancer as I still couldn't point my foot and can't to this day, she added. Landon, from Los Angeles, says she fell into a depression

and developed an eating disorder as well as a fear of heights in the aftermath of incident. The girl never apologised for what she did. I would have fantasies of her falling off the stage, but never actually planned on doing anything, she added. A couple more photos. She said she only spotted her opportunity to exact revenge when a mutual friend at the company told her she was the maid of honour at the rival's wedding. Landon said, she wasn't even getting married to the guy she had pushed me off the stage for, and she had left dancing to be a teacher. She didn't even lived the life she sacrificed my career for and I was angry. My friend had the wedding binder and left me alone with it. Landon says she took pictures of every page and waited three

days before the wedding to call practically every vendor to cancel. She claims the photographer was a family member so she didn't contact them, but still she had called more than enough people. She had no flowers, linen, makeup artist, venue or caterer but still had to pay for their services, said Landon. Sometime after the wedding, the maid of honour told me that the couple had wed in her back garden and that she had to do her own hair and makeup. Eventually, the bride found out who was responsible and Landon apologised despite the career-ruining incident, she claims. The saboteur added, she said it was the worst day of her life and I did feel bad about what I had done. I wanted to bury the hatchet. She had just given birth to her first baby and was feeling empathetic

so she didn't press charges. I've moved on and wouldn't do anything like that again. I'm over it. The incident scarred me for life and installed a fear of heights and an eating disorder, but I've learned how to process things after years of therapy and would act differently. If I had my time again, I would probably have sued her for the above instead of plotting a long revenge. And that's the story. Okay, immediate thoughts. Michael Johnson. God, it's like a real villain story arc, isn't it? It's like eight years of festering over this instant.

Like, if it brought my career to an end, it's unjust. God, it is tricky. I mean, it's extreme on both sides. It must be unbelievably sad to have your dreams stripped away from you like that from one stupid little incident. But eight years of festering. And I guess just that opportunity arose and it's like, this is it, we're going to do it, do or die.

Yeah, Peter Austin. I don't, I don't think, I don't think it was justified. I think it could have, you know, enacted revenge in a much more petty way. I guess they want to sit like if it's had serious ramifications on their life then they want you know eye for nine all that you want to make sure they have the same pain

I think that is a hell of a move canceling an entire wedding like that's devious I think it's pretty obviously it's really bad what happened in the first place to be left with like the injury and like an eating disorder and a fear of heights and a career ending thing like that's all terrible

I don't think anyone questions that but it is such a I mean it's such a like mom or grandma or teacher thing but it's very much like two wrongs don't make a right and I just feel like yeah I agree that like maybe there should have been some kind of petty revenge like even something that is that is quite inconvenient and like you know a bit of an asshole thing to do out you know objectively like painting someone's car You know, when people like, right, I am a cheat on their partner's car or something like that. You know, that kind of thing where, yeah, it's quite a, it's quite a strong thing to do. And it, you know, leaves someone with a financial, you know, hit and various, you know, various things.

But you only, you only get, like, one wedding, potentially. And it's like, it takes you like a year or more to plan it. maybe two years and to just like undo all of that I just think there's like it's not very it's not a very concentrated revenge is it it's got it's got bigger ramifications for the greater family it's it's a real and it's not even like

kind of you know poetic justice like maybe they should have done some kind of some kind of revenge that like related to the initial incident like I'm not saying they should have pushed her off a state or something, but... Centre a high heel with a broken heel or something like that. Yeah, just something like that. But, you know, to be like, oh, you ruined my career,

so I'm going to destroy your wedding. I don't know. I just think that that's kind of dark, really. And also, it won't have brought that person a great deal of satisfaction or, like, to feel like there's a lot of justice. They might have felt in the moment that, like, oh, yeah, that was great. But then you're still, you know, when the kind of the high of that has worn off, be it in a few hours or a few days or a few weeks.

You're still left with, you know, I never got to be a dancer and that person cost me that and I hate them for it. And it's like, okay, so you still hate them. You're still unhappy. All you've done is ruined not just that person's wedding, but the partner that they were going to marry and all the family who were excited and, you know,

even like the suppliers of all the stuff for the wedding. I know they get to keep their deposits and stuff. but um you know they they won't have had to pay like full price for everything so so many people are impacted by that um i don't know i'm i'm kind of ranting now i think partly because i'm like very close to finishing planning a wedding yeah yeah totally agree though sorry mike you go on no weddings are like booked like years in advance because you know places get booked really quickly so they probably is now waiting another year or so to get that venue back you know like it's oh well they got married in the garden

didn't they? Oh, of course, yeah. I'm curious how this came out, because surely if you did this, if you enacted this revenge, you'd use a false name, like you would just keep hush about it, you'd watch it and fool, and never speak about it. But, well, she found out who it was. It came out, apparently that's what it said in the article, is that the, the wedding haver, the pusher, found out who it was and she reached out. But yeah, like we'll just wonder how that happened. Yeah. How, how she found out. I think everyone's the asshole in this situation, but I don't know why I don't know why Landon, the person who got pushed off the stage and then fucked up this person's wedding, would come forward with this story? Because it paints them like a really

horrible person. As you said, Mikey. Yeah, it's awful what happened to them. This person who pushed them was 20 years old. They should have apologized. Absolutely. And it was a terrible thing to do. But her justification of, she's not even a dancer anymore. She's a teacher. And she's not even getting married to the boys she put like how fucking petty can you get like that's insane to fuck up this person's wedding when they've just had a kid and every oh my god it's awful and there is i would say there's a slight difference in terms of like maturity i mean again it doesn't justify it but there's a difference in maturity from like a 20 year old pushing you off stage over a boy versus a 20 what 28 year old ruining someone's wedding like you should know

better by that age. You should sort of know better by the age of 20, but, you know, some people are still in a kind of mentality at that age where, you know, they're basically still acting like a teenager, but very few people still behave like teenagers at 28, other than this person, seemingly. Yeah, it's pathetic and it's a really bad look. I'm not saying she should lose her job, but as a media marketing manager, whatever the fuck she's called, that shit's going to follow her everywhere. Why would she... I don't know. I don't get it. The article was weirdly ambiguous as well. It didn't take a side, and I'm not really sure why or what kind of story it was trying to tell, because it just made this person that it was about looked fucking awful.

I don't really get it. There's just both assholes, I guess. There's no winner here. We don't know how much gross the other person has had in that time, you know, because they could be a totally different person now. I've done terrible things. They might have spent their life, I mean, this is unlikely, but they might have spent their life like making donations to dancing chariots

because they feel terrible about what we did. Everyone who's broken an ankle in local hospitals and stuff. You don't. And then it's like, hey, remember me? I fucked up your wedding. You know when everything mysteriously went wrong at once for no reason? Yeah. It's awful.

But there we are. That's my thing. Let us know what you think, people listening. Ah, dear. Thank you for showing that. Good to weigh in. I mean, we didn't have a strict judgment on who won there, but I mean, yeah, it's strictly. No one's, no one's doing well out of this.

No, I don't think so. Why did you do this? I've got a question here from A Tiny Demon at It's underscore Lisa underscore Arts who says At what point does a nap become asleep Well it's satisfying

I think if it crosses over from daytime to night time potentially You know Yeah I guess so But what if you theoretically slept for like

8 hours middle of the day. I'm not saying I've ever done that. Well, yeah, I would call that asleep. People work night shifts and stuff. Well, yeah, I mean, irrespective of like my reasons for doing it, if I, if I, if it gets to 1pm and I'm like, man, I'm really tired, if I sleep from 1pm till like 8pm in the summer and the sun's still up, do you still think that's a nap?

I mean, that's a good point. I think duration plays a big factor. I think, you know, because you can, I think, time of day matters as well. I don't think people are going to be napping at night time, realistically depending on your day-night cycle. So if you get like two or three hours sleep and then go to work in the morning, I think that's still asleep. That's not a nap.

But if you're during your working day, whatever form that takes, or during the day where you've already had a proper sleep the night or the day before, that's probably a nap. But then if it goes on too long, it's asleep. I don't know. You make a good point, actually. I was going to say for me that like it just feels like nap becomes sleep after I don't know exactly what but maybe two hours or three hours like if you sleep for more than let's say two and a half hours I'll say three hours if you sleep more than three hours I was going to say then you're you're sleeping you're not napping anymore but you know I think it it kind of depends like if you slept for three hours in the night if you couldn't get off until like 1 a.m and then you had to get up at 4 for whatever reason. And that's not like, oh, well, you had a nap that night.

It's, you had asleep. So definitely time of day, factors in. I think you're both jumping the gun here. It's not about, you know, what happens when you close your eyes. It's about the intent before the eyes are closed. What is the purpose of this? Is it like a sleep, it denotes the end of the day. It's a reset.

It's a refresh. But a nap is more of just, it's a break. It's a boost. It may run over. You may have good intentions, but end up doing a big sleep. But in the end of the day, I think that still counts as a nap, no matter how long it was. If you went into it, hoping to, you know, just as a mild interim to your day to keep you going. I think you're right.

And also you can, I think naps are deliberate, sleeps can just happen. Like if you fall asleep on the sofa, you could call that a nap, but it wasn't intentional. I feel like a nap is a planned recharge. Yeah. Yeah. I think you could be right. I think that's it. It's just whatever you're intending it to be is what it is. it is no matter how long it is or what time of day it is really yeah that could be it

yeah I may have solved it there well thanks tiny demon for that question we've sorted it I have got a thing here it's it's sort of a Wikipedia in that this does exist on Wikipedia as a write-up but I wanted a longer more detailed version which I found on IFL science.com okay but you can find this on Wikipedia but here we go this is written by do we have a is it at the bottom hello

who wrote this it is written by James Felton 22nd of July 2021 IFL science the mouse utopia experiment

that turned into an apocalypse oh my God okay this gets quite intense over the last few hundred years the human population of Earth has seen an increase, taking us from estimated 1 billion in 1804 to 7 billion in 2017. Throughout this time, concerns have been raised that our numbers may outgrow our ability to produce food, leading to widespread famine. Some, the Malthusians,

even took a view that as resources ran out, the population would, quote, control itself through mass deaths until a sustainable population was reached. As it happens, advances in farming, changes in farming practices and new farming technology have given us enough food to feed 10 billion people but it's how the food is distributed which has caused mass famine and starvation. It makes you sick, doesn't it? It's lovely.

As we use our resources and the climate crisis worsens, this could all change. But for now we have always been able to produce more food than we need even if we lack the will or ability to distribute it to those that need it. But while everyone was worried about a lack of resources, one behavioural research in the 1970s sought to answer a different question. What happens to society if all our appetites are catered for and all of our needs are met?

The answer, according to his study, was an awful lot of cannibalism, shortly followed by an apocalypse. What? John B. Calhoun set about creating a series of experiments that would essentially cater to every need of rodents and then track the effect on the population over time. over time. The most infamous of the experiments was named quite dramatically Universe 25. In this study, he took four breeding pairs of mice

and placed them inside a utopia. The environment was designed to eliminate problems that would lead to mortality in the wild. They could access limitless food via 16 food hoppers, accessed via which were accessed via tunnels, which would feed up to 25 mice at a time,

as well as water bottles just above. Nesting material was provided. the weather was kept at 20 degrees Celsius which for those of you who aren't mice is the perfect mouse temperature the mice were chosen for their health obtained from the National Institute of Health Breeding Colony

and extreme precautions were taken to stop any disease from entering the universe. As well as this no predators were present in the utopia which sort of stands to reason it's not often something is described as a utopia but there were but also

oh I see it's a little real funny sentence here it's not often something is described as a utopia but also there were lions there picking us all off one by one that's just them saying it stands to reason that there were no predators so thanks for that writer the experiment began

and as you'd expect the mice used that time used the time that would normally be wasted in foraging for food and shelter for having excessive amounts of sexual intercourse yes about every 55 days the population doubled as the mice filled

their most desirable space within the pen, where access to the food tunnels was of ease. When population hit 620, keep in mind we started with eight mice, that slowed to doubling around every 145 days as the mouse society began to hit problems. The mice split off into groups, and those that could not find a role in these groups found themselves with nowhere to go. In the normal course of events in a natural ecological setting, somewhat more young, survive to maturity than are necessary to replace their dying or senescent established associates, Calhoun wrote in 1972. The excess that find no social niches emigrate. Here, the excess could not emigrate because there was nowhere else to go. So the mice that found

themselves with no social role to fill, and there are only so many head mouse roles, became isolated. Males who failed withdrew physically and psychologically. They became very inactive and aggregated in large pools near the centre of the floor of the universe. From this point they no longer initiated interaction

with their established associates, nor did their behaviour elicit attack by territorial males. Even so, they became characterised by many wounds and much scar tissue as a result of attacks by other withdrawn males. So, on

Usually, they weren't being attacked by dominant males, which is what would happen in the wild. The dominant males didn't even see these kind of outcasts as a threat, but these groups of outcasts that all just gathered together would just attack each other for no reason. I mean, it's sad. It's pretty dark this whole thing, but I'll continue. The withdrawn males would not respond during attacks,

just lying there immobile. Later on, they would attack others in the same pattern. The female counterparts of these isolated males withdrew as well. Some mice spent their days preening themselves, shunning mating, and never engaging in fighting. And due to this, they had excellent fur coats and were dubbed somewhat disconcertingly, The Beautiful Ones. The breakdown of usual mouse behaviour wasn't just limited to the outsiders, though. The alpha male mice became extremely aggressive.

attacking others with no motivation for gain for themselves, and regularly raped both males and females. Violent encounters sometimes ended in mouse-on-mouse cannibalism. Despite, or perhaps because their every need was being catered for, mothers would abandon their young or merely just forget about them entirely, leaving them to fend for themselves. The mother mice also became aggressive towards trespasses to their nests, with males that would normally fill this role,

banished to other parts of the utopia. This aggression spilled over and the mothers would regularly kill their young. Infant mortality in some territories of the utopia reached 90%. This, though, was all during the first phase of the downfall of the utopia. In the phase Calhoun

termed the second death, whatever young mice survived the attacks from their mothers and others would grow up around these unusual mouse behaviours. As a result, they never learned usual mice behaviours, and many showed little or no interest in mating, preferring to just eat and preen themselves alone. The population peaked at 2,200, short of the actual 3,000 mouse capacity of the universe, and from there came the decline.

Many of the mice weren't interested in breeding and retired to the upper decks of the enclosure, while the others formed into violent gangs below, which would regularly attack and cannibalize other grubes, groups as well as their own. The low birth rate and high infant mortality rate combined with the violence, and soon the entire colony was extinct. During the mousepocalypse, food remained ample and their every need completely met. Calhoun termed what he saw as the cause of the collapse, behavioral sink. For an animal so simple as a mouse, the most complex behaviors involved the interrelated set of courtship, maternal care, territorial defense, and higher art Hierarchical, intra-group and intergroup social organisation, he concluded to his study. When behaviours related to these functions fail to mature, there is no development of social organisation and no reproduction. As in the case of my study, all members of the population will age and eventually die and the species will die out. He believed the mouse experiment may also apply to humans and warned of a day where, God forbid, all our needs are met. for an animal so complex as man, there's no logical reason why a comparable sequence of events

should not also lead to species extinction. If opportunities for role fulfillment fall far short of the demand by those capable of filling roles and having expectancies to do so, only violence and disruption of our social organization can follow. So he reckons that basically if we find ourselves in a world where we don't have anything to do we don't have roles to fill because everything is done for us perhaps maybe in a world where robots do all of our jobs and we are just left to enjoy leisure time and food and sex seemingly the way that things go is violence complete you know social disorder and perhaps even cannibalism that's that might be unlikely but you never know wow Jesus

So I hope I've successfully brought you down at the end of this comedy podcast. Well, we're all going to be safe because as long as we all have to wipe our own asses, we will never have every need met. No, that's true. We will have a purpose in life. And I think that will be one of the last problems to be eliminated if there are any. And quite frankly, I don't think anyone's going to get on that anytime soon. Hey, hey, Japan with the automated beda toilet.

I don't think anyone's going to get on that anytime soon, Michael. for our own safety we must we must ignore the badeas you must use terrible scratchy toilet paper for the rest of our lives god it's amazing i guess yeah when when you want for nothing and there's no fear you kind of manifest your own like i guess it's just very dull eventually yeah you just kind of you start to go a bit stir crazy and you just you're trying to fire off those nice receptors in your brain to make you feel something and you just it just goes completely bonkers and maybe i'm

I mean, I'm no behavioral scientist, so this is purely speculative, but like maybe even though all your needs are met and you've got all, for example, all the food that you need, maybe then that just becomes kind of the baseline in your head. Like, yeah, well, you know, take that as rare to take that for granted. What I want is even more food than that. And so you then become defensive and territorial around more food than you even need. Like you just want to protect and hoard more stuff than you even require. So it's not even enough that, like, every need is met, it's that no matter what needs are met, I guess people will always be competitive and people will always be territorial in like a kind of messed up way. Maybe Mark Zuckerberg is a good example of this. The man wants and needs for nothing, yet he continues down a more tyrannical path of essentially world domination. So maybe if we're all given what we need at all times, we'd all turn into Zuckerberg's. Yeah, you're right.

Entirely possible. Or just want more. Yeah. And more and more. And more. I googled the mass experiment because I wanted to see it and there's some wonderful pictures. Yeah, there's like black and white photos of the universe that they lived in. I've got to say, though, when someone utters the words mouse utopia,

I picture like lovely little bright landscape with little tiny cars that they drive around and all that. It's very much a fortress of food and water. Yeah, no, it's just hoppers and food and. It's very much functional. It's a functional utopia. Yeah. Maybe that's it. Maybe they need to try again with a more exciting utopia.

Tiny cars, a little like bakery on the high street. It's not a utopia until the mice can drive. Yes, that's what I'm saying. They need hobbies, man. Wow. Well, thank you, Peter, for that thing. You're welcome. I hope you're suitably haunted now.

It's very haunted. So I've got a final question here. other than your DBP interactions through Vidiots, have any of you ever had any other memorable celebrity interactions? For me, I once met Ainsley, Give Your Me to Good Old Rob Harriet, while on a school trip to the BBC. Good story, thank you, Sean Harris, I should say,

at Sean Harris Film on Twitter. Thank you, Sean Harris. I've encountered a few famouses at various times. I think the one most relevant to us, though, is when I very briefly in passing met Peter Serafinovich as Brian Butterfield, our favourite boy, and The Voice of Darth Moll, of course. The Voice of Dothmore, please, come on. He's also in Sean of the Dead, and he did a fantastic sketch show as well.

Kitchen Gun, great, brilliant, funny stuff. He was at EGX one year because he played the voice of a character in Dark Souls 2. Right. And that was being showcased there. And there he was at one of the booths looking really cool in a leather jacket, playing the demo for Dark Souls 2. And I have encountered Famouss since that point where I've thought, I don't want to bother them.

I'm not going to go say anything. Yeah. And also I'm a bit nervous. But I did actually go over and I tapped him on the shoulder and said, Hi, Peter. I'm a huge fan. And he went, oh, thanks so much. And I was like, no problem.

And then I walked away and that was it. And that was my interaction with Peter Sarah Finowich. Nice. I've seen famous people just, you know, in a restaurant or whatever in the street. Not that many, but, you know, people have seen famous people out and about before. I can't even think who necessarily. But I don't know if I've ever sort of properly interacted with any of them. I do have a story that I'm sure I will have told before on the podcast because it's kind of one of my favorite

not my anecdotes anecdotes which is that a friend of mine who lived in London for a time she was in like a waterstones or something she was just buying a present for someone and she said that she was in there and there was all this kind of crowd and there was like people everywhere and stuff

and she said what's going on here and she was kind of standing in the middle of room looking around at like all these people and then suddenly someone kind of came up behind her and was trying to like get past to tap her on the shoulder and she turned around and it was Gordon Ramsey and he said... Oh my God!

He said, excuse me, you're here for the book signing and she said, oh, no, no. And he said, well, get out the fucking way then. Which is excellent because if you're ever going to have an encounter with Gordon Ramsey, you want him to use the F word with you. That's it, yes. I think through my line of work,

being a video producer for some productions and adverts and all that, good stuff um the the blessing of meeting like several high profile youtubeers the majority of which are not i don't know who they are i'm just like hey this guy's got seven million subscribers like yeah can you say these lines please he's got a big number next to his name the the best most bizarre interaction was with carl walker england footballer um where we had a yogs cast sponsored shoot where it was lewis and simon played fallout seventy six

with an England footballer. What? It was truly bizarre. And the most awkward thing I've ever had the pleasure of watching. It was genuinely amazing. This per man had no idea what to do with these two guys. I don't think Lewis and Simon knew what to do with Carl either. It was just like lots of little chit-chat.

It was all going very well. And then Lewis got on the subject of mermaids and asked Carl Walker if he had sex with him. mermaid and he just he just kind of shut down and I don't think my wife would like that oh no and there's a point in the game where

Simon finds a football and he just goes Kyle Kyle look it's you it's a football it's just that they're like yeah I am I am Kyle Walker and I am paid two million pounds a week

what am I doing here why they're asking me about mermaids why aren't we playing feet why are we playing fallout why am we playing fiefer yes that was fun one uh met oh i can't remember his actual name now um jay from the in between us oh yeah oh yeah because he he does youtube doesn't or it's twitch he's yeah he's just twitch yeah he's just twitch yeah james buckley yeah he's pretty much transitioned full town to twitch now he's his main job so we had him as like an advocate for asus um for an r o g laptop he was lovely very very very well spoken very lovely man it was a pleasure

meeting him he's the complete opposite of his character in the in between us in every imagine way as you would hope yes yes if he walked in like what's up bellens have you quite taken a back good this guy oh no no he was lovely um I guess yeah it's just we've all had the experience of um pooing in the office next to big name YouTubers oh amazing yeah excellent good I was trying to find a name I was just going through the Game of Thrones cast you know Illaria Sand not by name. From Game of Throne season

four? Yeah, no, I didn't know her by name, but I knew exactly who she was. Let me, let me send you a link. You'll probably,

you'll probably recognize her. She hangs out with, um, with, you know, with the Mandalorian. With the Mandalorian's lot, you know.

I've got, I've Googled her. Yeah, that's her. Yeah. Played by Indira Varma. When I worked for splash damage, I went along to a voice

recording for one of their games, Dirty Bomb. And she does some, announcing in that and I got to meet her and watch her do a voiceover session and she was very professional and extremely intimidating in person. Nice. I once shared an economy flight from London to Newcastle with then, I think England football team manager or coach, whatever the word is, Sven Gore and Erickson.

Oh really? That's cool. I think you're going to say shared a sandwich. I once shared a sandwich. Oh, be lovely. With Sven. My dad once sat on a plane next to Steve Coogan for hours And I think was

I don't know if he didn't recognize him At the time Or if you were sort of trying to think who is this Or because my dad knows who Steve Coogan is I don't know I think maybe he just didn't clock Who was sitting next to him He hadn't really looked at the guy's face

But whenever he tells that story It's like oh did you speak to him? Did you speak to me? He's like no no I got off the plane And then I kind of thought Yeah that was Steve Coogan wasn't it? So, but yeah, hours sitting next to him. And he didn't say a word to him.

You should have said, uh-huh, I bet you'd love that. Yeah, I bet you've never heard that. He'd love that. Wow, fantastic. Thank you so much for those questions, Peter. You're welcome. Thank you, audience, for sending them to me. Absolutely.

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Nice. On the 9th of March. Skyrim Zoo, Chapter 2, drafts fortune. Post some tat number four, Meth Head Pokemon. Memory cards, March 12th, which is WWE Crush Hour, condemned, etc.

Prove it, Pokemon Yellow version Part 2. So we're getting close now to Parmuseg. Becoming the Tomb Raider. That's when we went out on that event. Oh, yeah, that was good fun. It was fun. We left, what's his name behind, Giles or something.

Yes, Rip, whatever his name was. Left for Dead to Steering Wheel Challenge, piece of cake. A favorite of mine. Prove it, Pokemon Yellow Version, live action challenge. I regretted that one as we did it. It was just so eggy and smelly and, oh, not good. Skyrim Zoo Chapter 3

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It became a brand deal After we filmed it And then they had a lot Of the video Why have you done it Like this And it was sort of Well hang on

It became a brand deal after we made it. Yeah. So we had to go back in and, I think, reshoot it, didn't we? Yeah, I think you might have done. Kind of annoying, but there we are. Pollyets episode two, doing a Dharma. Yeah. Sorry for starting Pottiots with so much of doing it at all.

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Forget you heard that Yeah Spoilers you'll never know Got half films in for the live action challenge of that didn't we That was good Oh it was very good I remember that

Because I accidentally called one them by the wrong name Did you? Yeah I called Smith Ross or something something is a little bit embarrassing. It's like just sitting them down in front of the camera

to do all the little interview segments. Misnamed them. I was like, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. It's not often talked about whenever we talk about our favorite providence, but I think that's one of our best ones. You know, the talking head segments where they're all different real estate companies.

Yeah. And they're coming in and inspecting the properties. I think it's great. Yeah, they did really well. Yeah, it was great. And they were like complete. unprimed, unscripted, like we just, me and Ben made, I mean, again, this will probably come up in the next podcast when we do four years ago on idiots, but we just made two houses

out of cardboard, got them to come in, and they're just, you know, their natural entertainers. Entertainers, yeah, talking headers. No, they were fantastic. They were. I have to re-watch that at some point. It's a good video. We'll save it for the next charity stream. Yeah, maybe.

We'll all enjoy that. Wonderful. Well, Michael Johnson, where can people find you on the internet? At Paraboy on Twitter's where I put my spewings, my internet dealings. That's the best place to keep up with me, what I'm doing. And when I'm streaming, it's been a bit of a drought of streaming recently. I'm not going to promise that's going to change. It's really hard to justify staying indoors when it's so sunny outside.

But I will endeavour to return probably with some Souls games. Now, Eldon Ring has got me by the neck and I can't stop. Hell yeah. Peter Austin, where are we? We are individually on Twitter at Confused underscore Dude and at That Peter Austin. But together, we are making content on Team Triple Jump on YouTube and Twitch, also Twitter and Facebook. So head over there to see how Billy Ray Waris is doing and Rules Boss and see whether we've learned how to cook yet. We haven't.

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Oh, the dancer, yeah. Yeah. A wedding ruiner. Yeah, let's, let's not give the audience the same niceties we give ourselves where we didn't have to have a binary answer of who was worse. You in the audience, who was the more eviler one? Can't say both of them. Just the one of them. Black or white. Yeah, absolutely. Wonderful. Well, thanks for listening, everybody.

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