Pop Culture Happy Hour - 2025 Books We Love
Episode Date: December 29, 2025NPR’s Books We Love is a roundup of the best books from the past year, sorted and tagged to help you find exactly what you’re looking for. This year we’ve got hundreds of book recommendations, s...o today, we’re highlighting some of our favorites – including Actress of a Certain Age by Jeff Hiller, The Ten Year Affair by Erin Somers, and Cannon by Lee Lai. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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NPR's Books We Love is a roundup of our favorite books from the past year,
sorted and tagged to help you find exactly what you're looking for.
Recommendations come in from NPR staff and contributors, including me.
I'm Glenn Weldon, and today we're talking about NPR's Books We Love on Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR.
Joining me today is Andrew Limbaugh.
He's the host of NPR's Book of Day podcast and a reporter for the Culture Desk.
Hey, friend.
Hey, Glenn, how you doing?
Good, good.
So, listeners, look, you listen to this show.
You probably listen to Andrew.
show, and if you don't, you should. So you probably know what books we love is, but in case
there's a handful of a out there who still don't, every year NPR collects book recommendations
from staffers, contributors, critics. In all kinds of genres, fiction, nonfiction, books for kids,
memoirs, and much, much more. This year, we've got hundreds and hundreds of recommendations,
both Andrew and I contributed to the mix. So we're just going to get started. Kick us off, Andrew.
What's your first pick? One of my personal recommendations was the book Tilt by Emma Patti.
Okay. This book was released earlier.
this year. It is a really tight action adventure novel about a woman. It starts off in an IKEA.
She's super pregnant. She's running some like last minute IKEA errands, you know, that we all love
to do on a Saturday. She's getting a florb. When an earthquake hits, and this book takes place
in Portland and in the greater Portland area where they're constantly thinking and worrying about
earthquakes. On its face, it's a simple story about like, oh, this super pregnant lady has to get back home.
and it's fun and it works on that level,
but then every other chapter is interspersed with these like,
not quite social commentary,
but kind of sad and funny and interesting perspectives on like motherhood
and early motherhood and the sort of idea of like,
oh, you got to get like the right baby carrier.
You got to go on wirecutter.com
and buy the most expensive thing.
And all of this like nonsense about the culture of pregnancy and motherhood.
And it's a really fun and fast and thrilling read.
That's Tilt by Emma Petit.
Right.
And that made a lot of 2025 best of lists.
And a lot of reviews mentioned kind of what you mentioned,
that it's also pretty funny.
So that's great.
Yeah.
All right.
My first pick is Florenzer by Phil Malanson.
I've mentioned this before.
It's a historical novel that takes place in the city of Florence during the Renaissance.
Now, Andrew, if you know your history or if you've forgotten it like I did and just played Assassin's Creed a lot,
you know that Florence was a center of art and culture.
And let's do some real talk here throughout history, wherever you find a concentration of art and
culture in one place, you tend to also find dudes getting it on with other dudes.
It follows as night to day.
Tale as old as time.
So case in point, the city of Florence had such a reputation for gay sex that the German
word for a man who engages in homosexuality was a florencer, a man from Florence.
And that's born out here because one of the POV characters in this book is a young Leonardo
Da Vinci.
He's a student.
He's reluctant to go out into the world because life is a student is very safe.
supported, so relatable. Relatable from the jump. He's just starting to come to terms with his talent
and what we would today call his queerness, but what's remarkable, and I think really notable about
this book, is how Melanson is very careful not to depict Leonardo's sexuality in a kind of
a historical modern way. He doesn't cheat and insert, you know, 21st century notions about
identity into the mix into this very not modern world. He's not doing his dating profile. He's not. He's
He's keeping it real.
He's keeping it Florence real.
He's not doing poppers or whatever, right?
He's not.
He also really digs into all the stuff the history books talk about the politics of the papacy and the Medici's, but there is nothing dry or, you know, professorial about this book.
What he does is what you have to do.
He takes these flesh and blood characters and has them kind of embody all those conflicts.
And just the prose, there's a vividness to this writing that I really dig because it's really about how it feels to walk around.
a city, and he really knows the town, apparently, because every section of the town has a different set of sights and sounds and smells that he captures really well.
It's just, you know, every so often you come across a book that has such great prose that you want to read it out loud.
So that is Florenzer by Phil Malanson.
Now, I noticed that your next book is a graphic novel by someone whose first book, Stone Fruit, I really dug.
So tell me about Canon.
Oh, yeah.
So this is Canon by Lee Lye.
I think every year there's a graphic novel that I get like a review copy in the mail.
And then I just like sit crisscross applesauce on my floor and start peeking through it.
And then two hours past, my legs are numb.
Yep.
And I'm like, oh, my goodness.
And like, I'm an emotional wreck.
And that book this year is a canon.
The titular character, Canon is like a cook, right, working at a mid-tier restaurant,
taking care of an ailing patriarch.
And, you know, she's just got a lot on her plate.
And she vents about all of this to her best friend.
Her best friend is an aspiring and struggling writer who ends up using some of the material from Cannon's life into her own work.
And this sort of causes a rift between them.
And it's a cute and intimate and deep story about this friendship that kind of cracks apart while also dealing with questions of identity and identity politics in a very interesting and head-on way, right?
the best friend character who's a writer, you know, she's being pushed in all of these
identityarian boxes when, you know, she's just like, I don't know if any of that really fits
my stees, right? And so she has to, like, navigate that with her agent. And meanwhile,
Canon is dealing with all of these things that supersede identityarian questions, like
someone who is dying, someone who is sick and, like, paying rents and a boss who kind of sucks. And
it's a really interesting and deep slice of life graphic novel. And so that is a book
canon by Leelie.
Okay. I'm definitely going to check that out. I think I've already ordered it. You're on a roll. Tell me about the 10-year affair. I'm not just realizing what mood I was in this year. The 10-year affair by Aaron Summers is kind of a callback to, I don't know, like a John Cheever or Richard Ford, these sort of like literary domestic novels. It's about a woman who is at a baby care class. She has a new child and she meets this guy. And this guy is charming and funny and witty.
And she thinks about him a lot.
I interviewed the author Aaron Summers, and she framed it as a multiverse story, which I thought
was an interesting take on it.
From there, the main character sort of keeps imagining what having an affair would be like
with this guy.
And it goes between that run of her life and then on a parallel track, her quote unquote,
real life, what actually happens in reality.
And it follows that through, like the title says 10 years, through COVID, through leaving
New York City, moving to the suburbs, and, you know, having a family life there.
and owning a house and all the pain that millennial enwee and domesticity afford.
Like any good multiversal story, you get kind of confused, right, towards like the midpoint,
be like, what's real?
Where am I?
What parallel universe am I in right now?
It's a really great literary drama.
And so that is the 10-year affair by Aaron Summers.
Oh, that's good.
I mean, it's nerds like me who foisted the multiverse concept on an unsuspecting world.
Sometimes I feel like apologizing for it.
But that said, I mean, like you and I have read a lot of literary fiction, right?
and sometimes you just get your fill of suburban middle-aged straight couples having tiny epiphanies on their patios.
And I like that this has a big swing.
I like that there's like something in it.
And it's also very funny from what I hear.
Yes?
You agree?
Yeah.
If you like and understand that girls was very self-effacing.
Yeah.
Sure.
Yeah.
It's like that kind of comedy.
All right.
I'm in for it.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Okay.
So my last pick is a book by the actor Jeff Hillard.
So the biggest and most pleasant surprise of the most recent.
in Emmy ceremony was actor Jeff Hiller,
winning, supporting actor in a comedy
for his work on The Beloved
and Much Missed series, Somebody Somewhere, from HBO.
But before he won that Emmy,
he published a memoir called
Actress of a Certain Age
by 20-year trail to overnight success.
So, as you can glean from the title,
Hiler is one of those actors who's been putting in the work
for decades. You've seen him in small roles
on like 30 Rock and Broad City and Difficult people
and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. Now,
yes, he does tend to play
the gay best friend, the gay co-worker, the gay brother, the gay uncle.
But this book is just a really great look at the unglamorous life of a working actor,
or in his case, often a non-working actor.
He's funny, he's very dishy, he's self-deprecating.
When the occasion calls for it, he is occasionally filthy, and I'm here for that.
Mostly he's just really candid and clear-eyed about acting about his work, about his appearance,
about his sexuality, and he's always very funny about it.
And look, he reads...
the audiobook. That's what I want to convey here. It is a rule if you glean nothing else from what I'm about to tell. Whenever a performer writes a book and they read the audio book, get the audiobook. Because I cannot imagine reading this book without hearing the way Hiller giggles whenever he lands a joke or tells a dirty story or often both at the same time. So that is Jeff Hiller actress of a certain age. Now that's just scratching the surface.
there's hundreds more recommendations in this thing,
but if you want to discover even more books
that NPR loves and Andrew loves and I love,
visit npr.org slash best books,
and that brings us to the end of our show.
Andrew Lindberg, thank you for being here, friend.
Thanks a lot, Glenn.
This episode was produced by Carly Rubin,
Kayla Latimore, Liz Metzker and Mike Katzif,
and edited by our showrunner Jessica Reedy,
and Helo Kamen provides our theme music.
This year's Books We Love Editorial Team
is Megan Sullivan, Rose Friedman, Beth Novi, and Ivy Buck.
Thank you all for,
listening to Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR.
I'm Glenn Weldon, and we'll see you all next time.
