Pop Culture Happy Hour - The Housemaid

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

The twisty thriller The Housemaid stars Sydney Sweeney as a newly hired live-in housekeeper to Amanda Seyfried’s wealthy housewife. Both women have dark secrets, and their dynamic goes downhill real... fast. It’s directed by Paul Feig of Bridesmaids and A Simple Favor, so you know it’s going to be a bizarre, fun ride.Follow Pop Culture Happy Hour on Letterboxd at letterboxd.com/nprpopcultureSee pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:03 The twisty psychological thriller, The House Made, was a huge bestseller, so it was only a matter of time before it was turned into a film. And it's quite the movie. Sidney Sweeney plays a newly hired live-in housekeeper to Amanda Seifred's wealthy housewife. But both women have dark secrets and their employer-employee dynamic goes downhill real fast. It's directed by Paul Figue, who's made movies like bridesmaids and a simple flavor. So, you know, it's going to be a bizarre, very fun ride. I'm Aisha Harris.
Starting point is 00:00:33 And today we're talking about The Housemade on Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR. Join me today is Jordan Cruciola. She's a writer and producer and the host of the podcast Feeling Seen on Maximum Fun. Hey, Jordan. Hello, thrilled to be here on the Paul Figue beat today. Yes, welcome, welcome. Also with us is Vulture TV critic, Roxanna Hadati. Hey, Roxanna.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Hello, thank you for having me. Yes, I am so excited to talk about this movie. It's going to be. Especially with you, too. is going to be very fun. So yeah, in The Housemaid, Siddy Sweeney plays Millie, a young woman with a checkered past and who's struggling to make ends meet. She lands what seems like a pretty clutch gig as a live-in-housekeeper for wealthy couple Nina and Andrew Winchester, played by Amanda Syfred and Brandon Sclanar. Now, it doesn't take too long before the dream job becomes a nightmare,
Starting point is 00:01:29 though, because Nina is very unpredictable and prone to violent outbursts. I have to get up and do a speech in front of everybody. And now, I have nothing. Oh, and to complicate things even further, there's definitely some heat between Millie and Andrew. As Nina's behavior grows more and more erratic, though, things spin out of control, secrets are revealed, and Millie has to fight for her life. Yes, this movie, I love it.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It's in theaters now. Roxanna, I'm going to start with you. Yeah. Give me your first impressions of The House Made. Started with me being like, what is this even? It is not working for me. And then there is a point, like, a third of the way through where I was like, actually, this is genius filmmaking and maybe we should make new Oscars for what is happening in the housemaid.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But like, I'm very susceptible to this sort of thing, right? Like, I really liked The Hunting Wives. I liked Sirens. We sort of had this resurgence of sort of like high camp, high trash TV this. year, the girlfriend, all her fault. I'm going to keep going. I feel very fond of this genre, I think, and I really enjoyed this. I feel like sort of like the women's domestic thriller got very self-serious and somber for a while, which I understand because the genre is often dealing with like domestic violence and domestic abuse and a lot of the difficulties of having it all.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Like, I understand all of that. But I do think that there is, like, a certain amount of very dark humor in this movie that I found to be very fun. And once it had sort of, like, won me over, it had, like, fully won me over. I love to hear it. Jordan, the Housemade Thoughts. As someone who put together an entire, like, capsule podcast. dedicated to a simple favor. This is Paul Figue operating
Starting point is 00:03:36 in my favorite mode of his, even as good as the heat and bridesmaids and spy are. This is my favorite Paul Fieg. Like, paperback airport novel, Paul Figue with, like, ladies at the center doing harm
Starting point is 00:03:52 to each other in inventive and at times homoerotic ways. Watching this movie in a theater was so much fun coming at the end of a year right when we're about to get in the testament of Anne Lee. Amanda Seifred could be in Oscar contention for both, honestly. Those eyes are telling to such incredibly different stories. You are seeing the dynamic nature of an Oscar caliber actor right
Starting point is 00:04:22 before our eyes. And after the year that Sidney Sweeney has had, to close it out with the perfect lane for Sidney to exist in. Yeah. Feels like getting the kick in at the end of the run at the track meet and closing it down to end up on the podium. Somehow, Brandon
Starting point is 00:04:45 Skelnar is what I think I had always thought Scott Eastwood might be. Yes, they have the same face. It's so unnerving. Yeah, the promise of that kind of I wasn't sure of what he was doing was working for me in the movie and then a pivotal point happens and I was like,
Starting point is 00:05:01 it's all fallen into place for me. So chemistry, magic, madness, I'm all in, five-baggers. Cinema. Jordan said cinema. Cinema, yes. Yes. This is a movie that absolutely benefits from being seen with a bunch of people. We always talk about the blockbuster.
Starting point is 00:05:20 It's like, oh, you want to stay on a big screen because it's visually set. No, sometimes you just want to see a movie where other people are going to make the same noises that you are when something weird happens. who are going to laugh at the same stuff that you do. Yeah. The press screening I went to was like a mixed press and public screening, heavily women. And I just, A, found this movie so much more effective and entertaining and even moving. And the crowd was having such a good time that it is the kind of thing where you're like,
Starting point is 00:05:51 we used to have these in the 90s. Like we used to have a lot of these in the 90s. We did. And this is my embraced tradition, return to your roots. I'm a cinema traditional. 100%. Yes. If you just want to like text a lot of friends you haven't hung out with in a while,
Starting point is 00:06:09 the housemate is the way to do it. Yes. Oh, my goodness. This was exactly what I wanted and what I needed. I love these types of movies. And I think you both are so right that there's this idea that this kind of movie needs to be a little bit more serious and more grave as it is about what it really means. And I think sometimes we need that escapism.
Starting point is 00:06:30 and to go back to the era of your fatal attractions and those types of things. Like, I want that. Give me a bunny boiler. Give me a bunny boiler. Yes, yes. We don't get a bunny boiler, but we do get China. Oh, my God. Pieces of China.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah. The family heirloom that is very crucial to plot points in this movie. But I do want to talk about the Sydney Sweeney of it all because I had this sort of same thought going into it, Jordan, of like this being kind of perfect for her. And, I mean, let's just talk about the way her career has gone this year. Yeah. You know, she appeared in a controversial ad campaign for American Eagle earlier this year with a tagline, Sidney Sweeney has great jeans.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Jeans as in denim, sure. But it caused an uproar because the ads were using wordplay that evoked eugenics, just bluntly speaking. It also surfaced this year that she's a registered Republican voter in Florida. And so you've got that. And then her boxing biopic movie, Christie, which has been. been clearly her play. Like if Testament of Anne Lee is Amanda Seifred's play for Oscar, like, Christie is kind of Ciny Sweeney's. And that did poorly at the box office. Some say because she gave this sort of non-answer about her jeans ad in an interview with GQ. And then also her like her
Starting point is 00:07:46 proceed political alignment. So there's this idea that we're like assigning something to her personal life has maybe affected her box office chances. That's what they're saying. So now she's like addressed the campaign directly. I was going to forget about this. I don't know about you. I was kind of like, okay, whatever. I'd forgotten about it. But now she has this movie that she's trying to promote. And she did an interview with People Magazine where she said, quote, I don't support the views.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Some people chose to connect to the campaign. Many have assigned motives and labels to me that just aren't true. And she also added, I'm against hate and divisiveness. Okay. So after seeing The House Me, which is something I find interesting because some people, some people are very focused on her personal life and her supposed political alignments. But then the movie she's in tend to be these types of movies that are very much like, if not flat out feminist, they are about women sort of overcoming the Patriot. I even think of like the Nunn movie that she did.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Immaculate. Immaculate. Yes. If all the Register Republicans in Hollywood, of which there are many, y'all, want to make independent movies about domestic abuse surviving lesbians who are also boxers, like, then I would be happy for them to channel their tax cut money into that kind of forum. But Sidney, I think in terms of a Hollywood element of a screen presence, she is so good in this. She is so good in Immaculate. She is so good as Cassie in Euphoria. And she is really good in the movie, The Voyers. Yeah, The Voyers is good. Oh, I totally forgot about that movie. Sydney Sweeney is great in also a dime store, a paperback airport. movie exploitation thriller. I would love to see her commit to this lane. I think she's absolutely
Starting point is 00:09:34 got a go-for-it in her that is really suitable for, yes, and the physical packaging that comprises like the totality of Sidney-Sweeney fits really well in this space as well. And she knows that too, which is why she takes these roles and plays into the hilt the way that she does. In pure terms of screen presence, I think there was role selection that was a bit out of step for what's in her wheelhouse. A movie like Eden, I don't know if that's something where she's like the best fit, but something like this, give me drama, give me screams, give me thrills, give me, give me what the hunting wives audience wants because that is who I am and that is what I want. Yeah. I mean, Roxanna, what say you? Yeah. I mean, I do think there is something to be said
Starting point is 00:10:17 that we're talking about this movie and this kind of movie and we're not really talking about Christy. And I don't think Christy was the right movie for her. I know. I know. never fully bought into her playing that role. But I can also understand being young and wanting to stretch, attempt to stretch your chops. Yeah, I mean, like her personal or political life or whatever is like a black hole upon which we project many things. My personal feeling about her as an actress is I think that she has a limited range that in this film is perfect for what this film is asking. her to do. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:58 She's playing a young woman who is unhoused, does not have any job opportunities, has a quick temper. And I think all of that comes through really well in the characterization of like this young woman who seems pretty aimless, clearly has sort of a moral core, but honestly is like pretty reactive and pretty passive. Yeah. This is not meant to be an insult. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:28 But she's very good at that sort of like dead-eyed affect. And that sort of like very deadpan line delivery. And for this film, which is asking Amanda Seifred to do huge over-the-top, like mood swing acting, having Sidney be the blank, quote-unquote, normal character for a long time in this. movie is super effective to get the contrast between the two of them, which again, I do want to insist, like, in my eyes, is limited. Yes. But in this kind of lane, it is perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And I think it's the most self-aware performance from her that I've seen. Yeah. There's not a problem with being a specific talent. Yeah. Oh, yeah. To compare her talent to that of like, and Amanda Seifred and be like, these two actors should be the same thing is absolutely not the case. and you look at what Paul Feig did in a simple favor bringing us the best performance of Blake
Starting point is 00:12:29 Lively's career and tapping into something that someone who, in the simple favor podcast that we had, Blake Lively said in her own words being like, I'm not Meryl Street. For me, it's the costumes and all the finishings and the touches that really help me bring out a specific character. She's aware of the lane that she occupies. In a similar case to like a Blake Lively, Sidney Sweeney is very aware that the physical presence that they have, like the way they present these stunning white women. I'm not crying for these rich very well off white women who are doing fine. They are aware of the perception of them. And you have the choice to either go along completely with perception in a sort of complicit way. You have the choice to wink, wink,
Starting point is 00:13:08 nudge, play within it, which is a really difficult line to walk, which I think is what Sydney accomplishes in something like this and something like voyeurs especially. Or you have the choice to buck against it and be like, that's not me, I'm not that girl. Because you do want to defy the box that you are being put. in because Hollywood still loves a box. If that is not your journey, if that's not your path to break out of that box that you're being put in and really find that kind of thriving success in a more dynamic sort of career, then you're going to have some slings and arrows as you learn the hard way that that's maybe not necessarily the most beneficial choice for your career
Starting point is 00:13:41 decisions, your role choices. Listen, it would be cool to be super hot for a couple days, but I honestly wouldn't want the life because that's a sort of celebrity that you don't get a pick when you turn it on and turn it off. I would probably get really front. frustrated with the way that people were coming at me with the presumptions and access to who I am. And I'd be like, well, I'm going to show you. And I would probably make some decisions that weren't probably in line with what I was best at in this world because I was going to try to prove to other people that I wasn't just as hot body shell. Because that probably sucks. And so you're like, I'm going to be a lesbian boxes with a mullet. And like, I get that. I get that.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I mean, she's still young, right? She's not even 30 yet. Yeah. Younger than Timote, right? Younger than Chalame. I think we always forget that Shalmay is a little older, like, within this realm of New Hollywood, yeah. Yes, and younger than Zendaya, too. So it's, I agree with everything you've said about this. And I would also throw someone like Dakota Johnson in here where I'm just like, you are very good at one specific thing. And when you're cast against that, I'm like, maybe not. But I'm not going to fault them per se for like trying to do that because why wouldn't you try to do that? I do want to talk more about sort of Amanda Seifred because I'm, I do think that she does have the harder role here because this is a very big performance.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Yeah. And she's so good at it. Like, she can really dance that line. And there are so many twists and turns in this movie. And, you know, some of them, as someone who's watched many of these, even though I haven't read the novel that this is based off of, I kind of saw them coming. But nevertheless, I was still very, very, very. just enraptured with the way this performance plays out and the way that Paul Fieg
Starting point is 00:15:27 really just kind of plays up how silly all of this is. This is the type of movie, I feel like once you've realized this is deliberately silly in many ways. Like there's so many moments where there's jump scares where all of a sudden Amanda Seifred's character is just like standing there like behind the mirror and it's like, oh! And it's like very, it's very... Yes, she's just looming, ghostly energy. Yeah, looming, a looming Amanda Seifred. There's the creepy groundskeeper Enzo.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yes. He's played by Michaelae Morone. Their dynamic is very great. Famously, of the Megan Fox Fembaugh movie they came out last year in which he played, like, you know, just a helpless dad that Fembaugh and Megan Fox had to come in and help domestically. He's been here before. He knows a housemaid situation. Yes. He has a lane too, and he's sticking to it.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I love it. What do we think of sort of this dynamic between Amanda Seifred and Sidney Sweeney and how that kind of plays with. expectations, I think, without getting too much into spoilers, because this does get very twisty. But I found it very enjoyable and very satisfying. The thing that is very smart about this movie, and it might be this way in the novel, too, which I have not read. But what the movie does so well is it takes all these, like, very recognizable, like, tropey elements of this genre at this point and, like, winks at you the whole time.
Starting point is 00:16:47 The groundskeeper that is just sort of, like, staring through windows and, like, maybe spying on these women, like that's very unclear. The gaggle of, like, awful neighborhood moms. Paul loves a gaggle of moms. Pick a little, talk a little. Yeah, and they're just, like, gossiping the whole time. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I really thought she was pregnant.
Starting point is 00:17:09 You were all thinking it. I mean, have you seen her skin? And how about those roots? My God, do you think she would take better care of herself for Andrew? The fact that the daughter that Sidney's character is now sort of expected to babysit doesn't like her at all. No shoes on the furniture. She's so great.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I wrote in my notes she makes great shady faces. She's played by Indiana L. Yeah, she makes wonderful shady faces. She makes Sidney Sweeney's character, make her a bologna sandwich, and then it's like, I'm not hungry. Like, all of these things are, if you've even read, like, one of these books, you're completely aware of, like, oh, these are all the puzzle pieces, and eventually they will be rearranged into something really interesting.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And I do think that, as we talked about, like, Sweeney being so passive and Amanda doing so much, it is this great, like, push, pull, conflict, contentious energy. So then when the movie flips, you then realize that their dynamic has to flip. And I think that's, like, where the genius of the contrasting performances is. I do want to say there's this moment where Amanda Seifred's character is in her SUV. and she's doing a classic move that we all recognize where she goes from sobbing maniacally to laughing maniacally. And it takes like a certain kind of actor to pull that off. But I remember watching that and being like, could this woman be Joker? Like, could we like, what kind of villainy could we put this woman in? And I thought that was really fun. Let's not forget she played Elizabeth
Starting point is 00:18:46 Holmes. Yeah. She should have won every award for that. So I also think that she is, is just sort of like, I mean, obviously she is A-list, but I think she's a kind of actress who can do so much. And it's interesting that this sort of like B-movie genre film, paired with Testament of Anne Lee, finally feels like the moment where you're like, oh, like, Mean Girls and Veronica Mars star Amanda Seifred has the range. And I just think that's really fun. Yeah. An actor she reminds me the most of it, I think, is very, very established. like sort of a list in the mind, is Julianne Moore, who also, if there's one person whose filmography is balanced between, like, prestige dazzle you, and absolute junk dazzle you,
Starting point is 00:19:33 it is Julianne Moore. Her curation is so broad in her career. They meet in the middle. In the movie Chloe. In the bisexual sexploitation movie Chloe, there are, like, the two wolves that are within you. It's like watching a movie like Chloe and watching a movie, like, you know, say even Jennifer's body where Amanda Seifred is the straight man character to the more vamped up Megan Fox. Amanda Seifred has been on the opposite side. She has been the Sidney Sweeney in this dynamic in another like girl two-hander, sort of pulpy genre movie of this sort of sort.
Starting point is 00:20:11 It makes me so happy to watch an actress getting older and having cooler opportunities that are higher profile that showcase like the quiet choices. she's been making to smaller audiences for a long time. That's an arc that just makes my heart sore. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like any time I see Amanda Seifred is going to be in a movie, I'm going to be in good hands.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Like, it doesn't really matter what kind of role she's playing. She's just always going to be that good. I love this. If you bought Big Love Stock, y'all, we are cashing in. It is cashing in. I think that is the perfect way to end this episode. Tell us what you think about The Housemade. Find us on Facebook at Facebook.com
Starting point is 00:20:55 slash PCH and on Letterbox at letterbox.com slash NPR Pop Culture. We'll have a link to that in our episode description and go see it in the theater. Okay. And that brings us to the end of our show. Jordan Cruciola, Roxanna Hadadi. Thanks so much for being here.
Starting point is 00:21:09 This was, as always, a delight. What a thrill. A perfect thrill. Yes, thank you. This episode was produced by Liz Metzger, Kayla Latimore, Mike Katzif, and edited by our show runner, Jessica Reedy. A little come in provides our theme music. And thanks for listening to Pop Culture
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