Predictive History - The Story of "Civilization", "Secret History", "Game Theory" and more - Civilization #32 - Rome's Rise, Fall, and Legacy

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Civilization #32 - Rome's Rise, Fall, and Legacy ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, good morning class. So we are today doing the rise and fall of the Roman Empire. And this topic is extremely relevant today because there's a country in the world that purposefully model itself out of Rome. And this country is the United States of America. The similarities between Rome and the United States, it's very striking. Both of these societies were of their time the most powerful nations. Rome dominated the Western world for centuries, and today America is the world's most powerful nation.
Starting point is 00:00:53 In fact, America is so powerful that if it is the world's most powerful, that if it is a very powerful, it is entire world were to get together and decide for whatever reason to invade and attack America and not stop until America was defeated well if that would happen America would win America is really invincible it's protected by two oceans and it has infinite resources and it has an extremely aggressive population and the world's most sophisticated military. So by sitting in Rome, we gather insight into America, where America is right now in its history
Starting point is 00:01:42 and where America is headed. And the central argument I will make to you today is that both of these societies, Rome and America, are really war machines. They're extremely aggressive. And if they cannot turn their aggression outwards, they turn their aggression inwards. Rome throughout its history was either fighting wars
Starting point is 00:02:07 against its enemies, and then when it ran out of enemies, it fought wars within itself, which ultimately led to its decline and collapse. America is in a very similar situation. After the fall of the Soviet Union, in 1991, America became hyperpower. It had no competitors, it has no peers in the world. Even though it tries very hard to look for enemies,
Starting point is 00:02:35 for example, for the past 10 years, America has been trying to pay China as a new threat. America really has no adversaries. And as a result, it can't really be aggressive abroad. So this will lead to. if the history of Rome is an indicator, it will probably lead to a massive civil war in America in the next 10 years. Okay, so that's what the history of Rome tells us.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Okay, so today I want to look at three questions. The first question is, why did Rome rise? What allowed Rome to become an empire, a superpower of its time? The second question is, what did Rome ultimately decline and fall? The third question is, what is the legacy of Rome? What is the impact and influence of Rome in today's world? Okay, let's look at the first question. So Rome, the tradition, we don't actually know if this is true or not, but the tradition
Starting point is 00:03:47 is that Rome was founded in 753 BCE. For that early history, Rome was a monarchy. It had a king. Then in 509 BCE, it became a republic. Not a democracy, a republic. And then, and at that point, Rome was very much a poor, backward, and isolated city along the tiber. And at that point in its history, no one, okay, not even the Romans, could have predicted that in 300 years' time, Rome would become the master of its world, the Mediterranean.
Starting point is 00:04:35 So to understand why Rome was able to succeed, let me very quickly draw for you a map of the world, the Mediterranean, in about 500 BC, when the Roman Republic was founded. So at the center of this world was really the Persian Empire. The Persian Empire was in control of the world's three most prosperous regions. Egypt, Anatolia, which is modern-day Turkey, and Mesopotamia, which is modern-day Iraq. And these are the three most fertile regions of the Western world. It was extremely prosperous, very heavily populated. And the Persian Empire was in control.
Starting point is 00:05:19 of all three regions, okay? So the Persian Empire is like this. Across the Aegean, the Mediterranean, from the Persian Empire are the Greeks. You had Athens and you had Sparta, and these were the two dominant city-states, or what we're called Polis, on the Greek mainland.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Across the Adriatic is, of course, Italy. And the dominant power, how actually in Italy at this time are not the Romans, but a culture civilization we call Etruscans. And the Etruscans for the longest time were dominant over the Romans. In fact, some people believed that Rome was originally a colony of the Etruscans,
Starting point is 00:06:13 and the first kings of Rome were actually Etrusian, princes, okay? And then over here is a place called Carthage, which is an emerging power. Okay? And over here, above the Greeks are the Macedonians. So these are the major cultures and powers of that time. Now, one of these powers will eventually dominate
Starting point is 00:06:48 and then provide the cultural framework for all of Western civilization. And if we were to go back in time and we were to analyze this situation, then we could make some predictions. Okay? Our first prediction would be that Persia would eventually conquer all of Europe. Right? Because Persia had infinite wealth, it had infinite resources, it was a superpower that was intent on aggression. Okay? And in fact, as we know, eventually, it will launch an invasion of the Greek mainland.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Okay, so if we were to predict or guess who would dominate the world, we would think it would be Persia. That's our first guess, okay? But let's just say, then who would be second? Well, we would think that either Athens or Sparta would be second. Why? Because Athens has a navy. And it is a really powerful navy.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And at this time, Greek civilization, it's really growing. So we would guess Athens or Sparta. And remember, Athens has a navy, but Sparta is really a military hegemon. It is focused on being a military powerhouse. And it has really the best military increase at this time. So our third guess might be Sparta. Then we could guess Carthage. Why? Because Carthage is strategically located in Northern Africa, which gives it access to all trade routes in Africa, over here, into all of Europe, and then back to the Mediterranean.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Okay? So Carthage would also be a good guess. We would not guess Macedonia. Okay? Why? Because Macedonia is a poor backward kingdom north of Greece that's being controlled right now by the Persians we would never guess the Macedonians but then there's one one city that we would never ever believe could dominate the world and that's Rome okay Rome would not be on a list Macedonia might be on the on the list because it still has a strategic location it has a very militant population, but we would never, ever guess Rome.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Now, it's funny about these predictions, of course, is that eventually Rome does conquer the entire Mediterranean world and it becomes the superpower of its time and then it develops the cultural framework for all of Western civilization, okay? But not only that, but close to Rome is Macedonia. remember Macedonia is where for the second builds the world's most powerful military and where Alexanderigates comes from to conquer all the Persian Empire okay so it's very strange that the nations that either are not on the list or at the bottom list will eventually conquer the world all right and this goes back to our
Starting point is 00:10:18 first class where we talk about the oceanic currents of history how empires are destined to fall to decline But in the process, they energize these borderlands and empower these borderlands to rise, and eventually over time, to overwhelm the empire. So this is true for Macedonia, and this is certainly true for Rome. So this fits into our pattern of the oceanic currents of history. So there are many different reasons why Rome would eventually win out over its competitors in the Mediterranean.
Starting point is 00:11:03 What I want to focus on today are the cultural reasons. So my argument today is that Rome, in opposition to its enemies, developed a cultural system that allowed it to triumph over its enemies. This cultural system made it ideal for military competition against its major enemies. So, let's talk about this cultural system. And to understand this cultural system, I will compare and contrast it with the Greeks,
Starting point is 00:11:42 who are also, who are basically the most culturally dominant people in this area at this time. Okay, so what do the Greeks believe in? Well, the Greeks believe in three things, okay? The Greek system. When I mean Greeks, I basically mean the Athenian. Because Athenians were the culturally dominant nation in the Greek world.
Starting point is 00:12:06 All right, so what did the Greeks believe in, and how were the Romans different? Well, first we understand is that Greeks were culturally dominant. And so what happened was that Romans did up a lot of their cultural system in opposition to the Greeks. or they learn lessons from the Greeks. Okay, so think about as an analogy, the relationship between China and Japan. A lot of Japanese cultural systems and values were developed in opposition to China and because of the lessons that the Japanese learned from Chinese history. Okay?
Starting point is 00:12:51 So, let's talk about the Greek values, and then what values the Roman values the Roman? developed in opposition to the Greeks okay so the first value the Greeks developed was idea of freedom what is freedom freedom represents and a got turned society in which everyone has the right to speak his mind his not hers okay his mind so every citizen was considered equal and that was the basis for great democracy everyone who has the right everyone has the right to speak if you are a citizen. Now what is the Roman counterpart? The Roman counterpart is what called liberty. And they sound similar but they're actually very
Starting point is 00:13:43 different concepts. Freedom is the right to speak your mind, the right to live your life. Liberty is the respect for the laws, history, and traditions of your culture. because that's what enables you to be free. If we don't restrict the laws, it would be anarchy. Also, liberty means basically no king. We will never allow a king to rule us because he takes away our liberty. What's interesting for us is
Starting point is 00:14:26 the modern Western concept is more aligned with the Romans than the Greeks. When we think of freedom and liberty, we think of the Roman idea, not the Greek idea, okay? So liberty. The Roman word for this is, of course, libertos. All right, the second idea of the Greeks
Starting point is 00:14:51 is the idea of eudaimonia. Eudymonia is the pursuit of human flourishing to be the best that you can be, to be better than your peers, and to win respect for your peers, to seek glory, to seek honor. So let's go back to last semester and think about Achilles in the epic, the Iliad. Achilles was in Troy not to win glory for the Greek people, but to win glory for himself. He was extremely selfish. He was extremely competitive.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And he was so competitive that when he, abandah the battlefield, he basically asked his mother, Thetis, a goddess, to get Zeus, the high god to favor the Trojans, okay? This is treason. This is sedition. And for the Greeks, this is good because what's important is to win eudaimonia. You, in order to achieve eudaimonia, can do anything, because that's what matters. Okay? And the idea of eudaimonia, if you think about it,
Starting point is 00:16:05 it's what led to great creativity, because everyone saw society as a competition, and they want to be the best. Okay? But if you think about it, it also leads to corruption, um, and selfishness. Okay?
Starting point is 00:16:22 So the Romans didn't like eudaimonia. But instead, their highest virtue was the idea of rea publica. And this is where we get the word republic from. Republica means for the greater good, for the public virtue. So what's important is not that you ingloy for yourself, but to sacrifice yourself for the greater good, for the good of Rome. That's what made you a good person or the best person, to fight and die for Rome.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And the third value for the Greeks that matter was the idea of Eritay. Eritage just means excellence. So even though Achilles was a jerk, the Greek still admired him. Why? Because he was a great soldier. On the battlefield, he was fabulous. He was excellent. And therefore, he should be admired. Okay? The Romans didn't like this.
Starting point is 00:17:29 They didn't want people to outshine everyone else. So they prefer the concept of piety. obedience loyalty to your fathers to Rome to the gods piety is what matter the highest virtue in Rome is not Eritay it is piety and again a lot of Roman values was developed in response to the Greeks especially to the Athenians okay because remember the Athenians in four Before 80, they defeated the Persians. And the Athenians became basically an empire.
Starting point is 00:18:20 They were the dominant military force in the Mediterranean and the Aegean all of that time. But 80 years later, 400, they had been decimated. They had been destroyed. They fought against Sparta in the Peloponnesian War, and they lost. The Romans witnessed all this. witnessed all this, right? Because they were just across the Adriatic. They knew all this.
Starting point is 00:18:44 And so they were determined not to repeat the mistakes of the Athenians. And that's why they developed a system in opposition to the Greeks, the Athenians. The Athenians had democracy. And it was common wisdom at that time that it was the democratic system that caused the collapse of the Indian Empire. And in response, the Romans developed a system called the Republic. Now, there's a huge
Starting point is 00:19:19 difference between democracy and republic. They sound the same. And in today's world, we use these two concepts interchangeably. We say American democracy, we say American Republic. It means the same thing, but back then, democracy and republic were two
Starting point is 00:19:35 opposing systems. So, let me give you a example to show you how different the system is okay so democracy is basically one man one vote it encourages competition encourages debate it encourages free thought republic is to be ruled by institutions based in the Senate okay institutions by laws and by history or tradition all right so what's a different All right, let's pretend that we're all going to go out for lunch today. And each of us has a different opinion.
Starting point is 00:20:16 I want to go to McDonald's, Eva wants to go and get dumplings, Echo wants to go to pizza. Who knows, okay? But we all have these different opinions. In a democracy, we resolve this issue by having a debate. I make my argument for my idea, then you all make your argument for your ideas, okay? And then we vote, and then majority wins. Simple, right? Okay. A republic is different. A republic, you make your decisions based on tradition.
Starting point is 00:20:47 So for example, today is Thursday. And for whatever reason, we don't know why, but every Thursday we go out to get dumplings. So guess what? We just go and get dumplings. We don't ask why. We don't even know why. We may not even like dumplings. It doesn't matter. What matters is you respect and follow tradition set by your fathers. Does that make sense? Now, what's interesting is these two systems have benefits and consequences. And it's the idea of the republic
Starting point is 00:21:28 that allows Rome to eventually conquer the entire Mediterranean. And the reason why is the idea of a republic solves a problem that democracy cannot solve. It's the idea of citizenship and identity. The way you organize your society is basically through citizenship, who gets to be a citizen, who doesn't. The democracy is actually very hard to be a citizen.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Because if we are having a debate and competition, we don't want others coming into the system, right? There's four of us in the classroom, we debate. But let's just say we let in five other people. And these five other people all love noodles. Guess what? We're stuck going to noodles every day. Right? So we don't want newcomers. And that's why the Athenian Empire fell. The Athenian Empire had to fight these wars to protect its empire. But in each battle, it had to lose soldiers. Even if you win battles, you have to lose soldiers. And they could not replenish these soldiers because
Starting point is 00:22:41 it did not want foreigners to become citizens. Does that make sense? But in a republic, you do not have this problem, right? If we are a republic, we're all stuck going to noodles every Thursday, we learn in a hundred people. Doesn't matter, we're all going to noodles, right? It doesn't affect us. So the beauty of a republic is you can allow immigrants
Starting point is 00:23:07 and foreigners to come into your system, which allows you to replenish your military. And they become citizens if they are willing to fight for you, if they're willing to follow your traditions, your customs, your history. And it's very similar in America, right? In China, how are you a citizen? Well, you're born here, and both your parents are Chinese, and that's it, okay? There's no other way to become a Chinese citizen. But in America, you can immigrant and just say, I swear to obey the Constitution. I swear to protect the Constitution. say those words you can become a US citizen so that's the power of the
Starting point is 00:23:53 republic okay so let's let's talk about some historical example to illustrate the difference between a democracy and a republic well in the democracy people understand polis or society as a community of people okay so the example is in 480 the Persians invaded the Greek mainland and they were about to attack Athens and there's no way that Athens could withstand the Persian onswagon so what did they do well what they did was they got onto their ships and they sailed away the entire Athenian people the entire city of Athens got onto the ships and sailed away and the persons were like well you can't
Starting point is 00:24:44 We can't do that. And Athens says, yes, we can. Because as a community, we can be wherever we want. We don't have to be in Athens. As long as we're a community, we will be Athens. We can leave Athens and go sell to Africa, and we will still be Athens. Okay? That's the idea of community.
Starting point is 00:25:10 But the Romans didn't believe that. Okay, remember in 216, Hannibal, comes and attacks the Italian peninsula, he destroys and wipes out all the Roman armies, Rome has no army. And at this point, Rome has options. It can surrender or it can leave. It cannot leave because to leave Rome
Starting point is 00:25:38 would be to abandon its identity as a Roman people. If you're a republic, you're the place does matter once you leave the place you abandon the values the culture the history that makes you distinctly Roman so the woman said to Hannibal we will not surrender we will fight the last man if you come and attack us and I'm a Hannibal never did okay and what's really funny about this incident is it's really the proudest moment in Roman history okay They were up against impossible odds.
Starting point is 00:26:19 They had no army. Hannibal was the greatest general role in human history. He had a huge army. But the Roman people were willing to make all the necessary sacrifices in order to protect their identity and their values, in their history. They refused that Rome fall. So every person, whether it's woman, man or child, would have taken arms and defended the city against Hannibal.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And this was really the highlight of the Republican system. It refuses to surrender, because to surrender would mean abandoning its identity. So that's why Rome was able to defeat all its enemies. Because the Roman idea of citizenship was flexible. If you're willing to fight for Rome, you could become a citizen. And as such, Rome was able to draw soldiers from all the Italian peninsula. From 280 to 272 BCE, there's something called the Prate Wars. Pirates, who was a Greek king, came to the aid of the Greek colonies in Italy.
Starting point is 00:27:45 These Greeks were complaining and saying that Romans are bullying them. Can someone please help us and build us a Greek empire? So Pirates, comes and attacks the Romans, and he won every battle. The Romans were terrible soldiers. He had the best soldiers in the world, and he was winning every battle. And at a certain point, Pirates said, okay, we're killing a lot of Romans. But if I win one more battle, if I just win one more battle, I'm going to run out of soldiers. So you have to retreat. And this is because of the idea of citizenship.
Starting point is 00:28:25 The Greeks could not replenish their forces, whereas the Romans could. And this is what allowed for social mobility and innovation in Rome. The fact that Rome was constantly fighting these battles, these wars, against everyone, and learning from their stakes and growing as military power. Eventually, Roleman, Rome comes in conflict with Carthage, and Carthage is, at this point, the greatest military, sorry, the greatest naval power of the Mediterranean. Rome did not have a Navy. It doesn't know how to sell ships.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Guess what it did it? Guess what happened? They decided to build a navy. And they lost all of battles against Carthage, but again, because Rome was so persistent, because Rome was not afraid to lose soldiers, eventually it overwhelmed Carthage. Okay? So, this is the reason why eventually Rome was able to conquer the entire Mediterranean world. No one could stop Rome.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So by about 200 BC, Rome was the greatest military hegemon of that time. And by 100 BC, 100 years later, it was an empire. was an empire. So are you guys clear? Any questions so far before I continue? Are you guys clear about this? All right. But there's a problem when Rome became an empire.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Republic is not the same as an empire. An empire needed a bureaucracy. It needed an emperor. You need a top-down system. And that's in conflict with the idea of a republic, where you have to obey the history and the institutions. If you're an empire, you have to absorb new people into your culture. But the Romans didn't want to do that because it meant giving up their own culture.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Right? So this created a contradiction, it this created a paradox. And this will eventually lead to a series of... lead to a series of civil wars that really never stops until Rome collapses. So, Tonya's idea, think about America today. America, again, it is our humanity's greatest empire. It controls the entire world, basically. It has 800 military bases around the world.
Starting point is 00:31:13 China has about two. It has no peer competitor. But there's one thing that you cannot say about America. If you go to an American and say, you're an empire, you'll be shut down. How dear you say we're an empire? There's something imperial about us. We're a republic. We're a democracy.
Starting point is 00:31:33 We're not an empire. For whatever reason, Americans refuse to believe they're an empire. It's ridiculous. And you have some silly things. For example, when Americans talk about the Middle East, right? Clearly, America wants to control the Middle East for its resources. But when you talk to American academics, American people, for a reason, they believe American Middle East policy is being controlled by Israel, a nation of 8 million people in the desert.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Israel is able to control the American Empire. And you're like, that makes no sense. How is it possible Israel to control America? But Americans really believe this. When you talk about the war in Ukraine, there are a lot of Americans who believe that it's the Europeans who are making America assist Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:32:32 It's all European manipulation. And it's the silliest thing. It's like, what are you talking about? The Europeans are a vassal state of America. Israel is a vassal state of America. And the reason why is Americans cannot understand that they're an empire, because it goes against their idea of themselves as democracy, as a republic. All right? This is what we call, the word for this is called cognitive dissonance.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You guys should have studied this in psychology, okay? But it's impossible for your mind to hold in. place to concrete ideas. America cannot both be a republic and an empire, therefore it's a republic. And don't ever mention the word empire. Okay? And guess what? The Romans have the same problem. They could not conceive of themselves as an empire, and they refused to be an empire even though they were an empire. And this led to lots of civil wars and conflicts between Rome and the people around Rome. So the example is that from 91 to 89, Rome fought something called the social war.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Remember, this is after Rome became an empire. It now has no pair competitor. It has no adversary. So now it starts to fight to fight wars among its own people. The social war was fought between Rome and its Italian. Italian allies or neighbors. For most of its history, Rome was drawing soldiers from its allies.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And after Rome became an empire, its allies, Italian allies, rightfully said, listen, we fought for you for decades, we've lost many men. We demand to be given citizenship. And Rome said no. And so they fought a civil war. And Rome lost the civil war because, guess what? But its military was from the Italian peninsula.
Starting point is 00:34:48 So it could not defeat its allies, and so it had to make its allies into Roman citizens. And Rome will keep on doing this, where it has all these subject people, and the subject people rebel because they want citizenship. But again, for Rome, what matters is the protection of its cultural identity. You give citizenship to 20 people that deludes your cultural identity. They were afraid that Rome will stop being Rome. And that led to conflicts throughout its history. And it never really ended.
Starting point is 00:35:28 So you can't ever use the word empire or emperor in Rome. Then the question then is, wait, didn't, wasn't Augusta Caesar? After the Battle of Actium, the first Roman emperor? No. The idea of an empire, the idea of an emperor, the idea that Augustus Caesar was the first emperor, is something that later historians decided on. The Romans did not see themselves as an empire. And Augusta Caesar did not see himself as an emperor.
Starting point is 00:36:06 The word he used, the word the Romans used, is the idea of precept. this means enroll in Latin first citizen we are still equals meaning the senators okay but I'm just a bit better than you I'm the first among equals and this is where we get the English word prints from and others of Caesar did not seem himself as building an empire he saw himself as saving the republic now now what's important to understand is that other Caesar was considered the greatest Roman leader. Because he ruled for 50 plus years,
Starting point is 00:37:07 his was a very stable regime. And the reason why, if you recall from last semester, is he was the heir to Julius Caesar. And there's tremendous regret and guilt among the Roman people for having killed Julius Caesar. And so they allowed his here, his son, to be king or emperor without any of his king, without much opposition.
Starting point is 00:37:31 That was not true for his heirs, okay? So after Augustus Caesar died, all the civil wars and conflicts that were suppressed were now fomented again, okay? And this would now lead to a massive period of civil wars. Now, our understanding of Roman history comes a lot from Roman historians themselves, specifically two individuals, Livy and Tacitus. And we basically
Starting point is 00:38:13 listen to what they wrote. For example, we, so what we mean by that is we take their word as gospel. We take the word as truth but what we need to recognize is they were senators, okay? Part of the nobility who hated the emperors, who hated the princeps. So they did whatever they could in order to make the emperors look bad. So there were four emperors, sorry, there were three emperors after death of Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, and Nero. And they were all made to look very, very bad, especially Nero and Caligula. And Tiberius. So let me give you an example of this.
Starting point is 00:39:05 So after Augustus dies, Augustus names two people here to his legacy, okay? The first is Tiberius, who becomes the emperor. Tiberius is not his son, it is his adopted son. So that's that is a Roman tradition where you can adopt someone outside of the family to be here. And then after Tiberius died, Augustus anointed Germanicus to be his successor. And Germanicus was considered an extremely talented and capable leader. The problem, though, is that Tiberius, who is now emperor, didn't like the fact that
Starting point is 00:39:58 Germanicus was appointed his successor. He wanted to annoy his own successor. So Tiberius, what he did, that was very sneaky, was he got, he made a man named Sugenis, the head of the Praeturian Guard. And the Praeturian Guard was basically the secret police of Rome. And Sigenus, because he was very ambitious, he started to kill not just Germanicus,
Starting point is 00:40:29 but everyone in Germanicus family. Shigenus wanted to be the here to Tiberius. And then after Cigenus was done killing everyone, basically in Germanicus family, Tiberius had him killed. This is a very common pattern in imperial history. After Ciginus was killed, there's a purge of Cajanus' allies. His children were killed and everyone who supports Sejanis was interrogated by the Senate and put to death.
Starting point is 00:41:06 And most of these people claimed innocence. I had never been doing with Sejanus. I was forced into an alliance with Sejanus. Now there's one person, a Roman nobleman named Marcus Tarantius, who in 31 CE he appeared before the Senate for his trial. And he decided on a different strategy. Everyone else before him claimed, I had nothing to do with Cjanus, and the Senate didn't believe them,
Starting point is 00:41:39 and they were all killed, okay? So Marcus Terenus tries a different strategy. And this is recounted in the history book, Annals, by Tacitus, who was writing about a hundred years later, okay? And this is what Marcus Trenas argues. He argues, yes, I was his friend. In fact, I tried very best to be his friend. Why?
Starting point is 00:42:08 Because Sejianus had the favor of the emperor. Because if I wanted to get anything done, if I want to become wealthy, I had to become a friend of Segenus. And why did I do this? And why was this right? Because it is not up to me to question or think about why Segenus is a friend of the emperor. All I need to know was the emperor favored to Janus, and it is my duty to obey the emperor, and therefore I became his friend.
Starting point is 00:42:41 That was his logic. Now, let's look at what Tacitus wrote, and it's really one of the most striking paragraphs in the history. But this is Marcus Serena's defense of himself before the Senate and the emperor. It is not ours to ask whom you, the emperor, exult above his fellow, or why you the gods have made sovereign arbiter of things. It is not my place to ever question the emperor. If the emperor made Chegenis his right-hand man, I now must also obey Che-Janus. If the emperor wants me to marry a dog, I will go marry a dog.
Starting point is 00:43:33 To search, to us has been left the glory of obedience. To search out the hidden thoughts of the emperor and the designs he may shape in secret, it's unlawful and dangerous, nor would the searcher necessarily find. What does this mean? It means the emperor is God. He has a secret design.
Starting point is 00:43:53 He has a secret logic that we could never know. Because we were too stupid. And if we try to figure out, we're breaking the laws. of Rome and the universe and we could only get into trouble so it's not up to me to question the emperor it is only my duty to obey the emperor the firmness of this speech okay so he's he's finished speaking defending himself in front of the Senate and this is how the Emperor and Senate respond to this speech the firmness of the
Starting point is 00:44:27 speech he speaks with conviction okay and the fact that a man had been discovered to utter what the world was thinking, made so powerful on an impression that his accusers were penalized by banishment or death. Okay? So rather than punish this man, the Senate punished his accusers, his enemies. Why? Because they had found a man to speak the truth about the world. The emperor was in command. We had to obey the emperor. And they wanted to obey the emperor. And they wanted to make a role model out of him, and therefore they killed all his enemies and let him go,
Starting point is 00:45:07 and rewarded him lavishly. Now, this was written in contrast to Roman history. This marks a radical departure from Roman history. Remember, in 509, the republic was founded, because they threw out the king. In response, the king organized his allies, the Etrusians, and they march on Rome. And Rome was surrounded by a huge army. And there was something Rome could do about it.
Starting point is 00:45:48 So a young nobleman named Musseus went to the senators and proposed a daring plan to assassinate the king. He swims across the tiber. He goes into the camp of... the enemy and he's captured. He's interrogated by the king. And Muschus says, we Romans have sworn to kill all kings. And to show that he's serious, he puts his hand
Starting point is 00:46:20 into a fire and he burns, he burns his hand in front of the king. The king is scared, so he runs away. Okay? So this story shows us the nature of the Roman character. Romans hate kings. Romans will always disobey kings. Romans will always find a way to kill kings. And this speech shows us that the Roman character has fundamentally changed because of empire. So Romans throughout most of its history, the one people have been grappling with what it means to be Roman and how to protect this precious identity. Now, we know that even though Tacitus wrote this, the Roman identity didn't really change. How do we know this?
Starting point is 00:47:18 How do we know that even though Tacitus says, okay, empire changed the Roman identity? It didn't really change. How do we know this? Because he's writing about this, right? He's writing about this. He's telling us that the Roman identity changed. because of empire. Well, if the women identity really changed, people wouldn't know it changed.
Starting point is 00:47:45 It's only because people are resisting the change in nature, the changing character that people appreciate what Tassiz is writing. And Tassiz is really saying that, oh, that empire, it's gone now because the new emperor has restored the republic. So throughout its history, Rome was caused in a battle between empire and republic. And every new emperor believed that he was restoring the republic. But then someone else would come along and say, no, he was a dictator. He was the emperor.
Starting point is 00:48:26 So this was a conflict throughout Roman history. And so now the question, we go on to the second question, which is, All right, how did the empire fall? Well, the standard explanation is that eventually Rome became too corrupt. And this is the explanation provided by most Roman historians, as well as the famous British historian, Edward Gibbon, in his most famous work, history of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.
Starting point is 00:49:09 It's corruption. It's corruption. It's because the Romans became more like the Greeks or like the Persians. They start to appreciate the luxury, deconance, and corruption of empire more. And the explanation is that over time you had all these dramatic invaders from the steps. Remember the steps is where the Yamaya people come from. These Visigoths are being pushed up by the Huns. So remember steps, it's really this massive, competitive, world-poor hurricane that makes people more aggressive.
Starting point is 00:49:51 And more aggressive tribes will push out less aggressive tribes. And these people are forced to go into Europe. And over time, the Romans are trying to absorb them into their empire, by making them soldiers, or by... giving them land, okay? But over time, this peer population will force the empire to collapse. And that's the center explanation. I want to make a different argument.
Starting point is 00:50:23 My argument is this. It really has to, again, with the idea of citizenship and identity. Throughout most of its history, Imperial Rome has been struggling with its identity issue. And then at some point, an emperor Kermanagh said, Screw this, we no longer want to be republic, we want to be an empire. Okay, and the way you can resolve this issue is in 212 The Emperor Caracalla issued the edict of Caracalla which made everyone
Starting point is 00:50:59 In Roman Empire as citizen So he basically destroyed the idea of citizenship if everyone can be a citizen Sincehip means nothing Before you have to fight for Rome to die for Rome in order to become a citizen you have to believe in the customs the history the tradition of Rome to become a citizen you have to fight for it it was war it was valuable it was in fact it was the most valuable thing in the world for people but now everyone got it so it was absolutely worthless okay and because
Starting point is 00:51:32 everyone was now a Roman citizen there was now no more Roman identity it was now a clean slate the emperors were now we're now no longer bounded by tradition or history by institutions like the Senate and so now they could build the imperial bureaucracy and this imperial bureaucracy will replace the republic and the major change is in 330 the the Emperor Constantine will move the capital from Rome to a place called Byzantium which will become the Byzantine Empire or the Eastern Roman Empire okay we'll talk about this next class but this is something that was unthinkable how
Starting point is 00:52:16 could you move the heart and center and soul of the empire from Rome to somewhere else it was unthinkable if if to be Roman was meant to die for Rome but another capital was somewhere else okay and so when so this marks the basically the end of Rome as a cultural identity as a cultural beacon, okay? This marked really the death of the history of Rome. Does that make sense to you guys? Okay, now, historians argue about this.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And historians argue when the Roman Empire fell, all right? But the consensus is 476 when a German warlord deposed the last emperor named Romulus Augustus. Okay, but I disagree. I believe that it really happened in 212. when Rome announced everyone could be a citizen. Okay, and we'll talk more about this next class when we get to the Byzantine Empire. And, okay, so any questions so far?
Starting point is 00:53:32 I know this is a lot, but we'll try to clarify a lot of the issues over the next few classes, okay? But if any questions now, please ask any questions so far about this. Is this clearly, you guys? Yeah? Tacitus. All right, let me clarify, okay. Tacitus was a senator.
Starting point is 00:54:09 The senator was always in conflict with the emperor. The Senate, okay? Sorry, let me clarify about the Senate. The Senate was basically the Roman aristocracy. It was where the ruling families of Rome sat. And they were supposed to be in charge of the empire. And the emperor was basically like the CEO. He was basically in charge of managing the empire, but it was the Senate that was supposed to make the decisions.
Starting point is 00:54:35 In reality, it was the emperor who was in charge because the emperor controlled the army, and he controlled the paternian guard, which was a secret police. So he could kill senators who disobeyed him. And this was always a very complex relationship. So when Tacitus, again, who is a senator, who comes from one of the elite families of Rome, of Rome, when he's writing about the history of the Roman Empire from the time of Augustus to Nero, he's trying to paint them in a very bad light, okay? Because he's trying to tell us emperors are bad. What's good is the Senate. And that's why he's producing this speech. Because if you're a Roman citizen and you read this speech by Marcus Tyrannus, you are appalled,
Starting point is 00:55:23 you're disgusted. We're Romans. We hate kings. We do not obey. We fight. We do not surrender. So this speech goes against the very heart and soul of what it means to be Roman. And that's why Tacitus is writing this. You see what empire does to the Roman character. It corrupts us.
Starting point is 00:55:48 It destroys us. It weakens us. And therefore we must resist the emperor and protect the Senate. Does that make sense, guys? So thanks for that. So I apologize because I'm running through a lot of history in a short amount of time, so I'm missing a lot of important details. What's really important for you to understand is in the Republic, the Senate is in charge. It means the ruling houses, the aristocracy in charge.
Starting point is 00:56:14 But in an empire, the emperor is in charge. But Rome never resolved this issue. Who should be in charge? The Senate or the emperor. And it changes over time. Sometimes the Senate is in charge, sometimes the Emperor is in charge. But they all believe they're protecting the Republic. And this creates conant dissonance, and it creates a lot of confusion.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And then in 2012, the Emperor said, screw this, let's just be an empire, I don't want the Senate anymore. And this begins a process of creating the Byzantine Empire, which does not have the idea of a Roman character. Do you have a question echo? Exactly, yeah. The Senate is filled by, again, members of the ruling houses. And what's interesting about the system is, it's almost like a federal system. I'm not sure if you know what a federal system is.
Starting point is 00:57:19 But the emperor is in charge of the army, and he's in charge of the secret police in Rome. But the senators are actually in charge of the provinces. So basically, each senator gets a certain province to control. So it's like the United States where governors are in charge of the state, the president is in charge of the nation okay now what's important for you understand is technically each state is independent each state has its own army
Starting point is 00:57:49 has its own basically legal system and it agrees to be part of the federal system which the president is part of and this is very similar to the Roman system okay not exactly but it's very similar all right okay any more questions before I conclude okay so my The last question I want to look at today is, what's the legacy of the Roman Empire or the Republic? And the answer is, we still live in the Roman world. Even though we like to think that we are heavily influenced
Starting point is 00:58:29 by the Greeks, it's institutions of Rome that we've inherited. So the idea of the political system, the legal system, the cultural system, it's something that the Americans, basically copy and paste it. The American system is very, very Roman. And right now, of course, America controls the world. And therefore, it's able to disseminate Roman values
Starting point is 00:59:02 and culture. And throughout the semester, we will be examining how Rome came to control the cultural framework of Western civilization. Because even though Rome collapsed and Rome, the character of Rome is now dead, the Roman legacy is still there. And all these people fighting, these warlords, these basically German warlords, they're now going to fight the civil war after the death of Rome.
Starting point is 00:59:34 They're claiming to be carrying on the legacy of Rome. From their perspective, Rome has not died, but Rome has spread out. And these warlords will adopt a lot of Roman princess. practices. And these world arts will build the culture that will give rise to new nations called France, Germany, Britain, basically the European world, okay? So that's the legacy of Rome. That's why it's important to study Rome. What lessons, okay, what lessons can we draw from Rome? Well, one really important lesson that we have to learn here is the idea of citizenship. and identity. You cannot be a strong and coherent nation if you do not have a strong
Starting point is 01:00:31 cultural identity. That's why the Romans were so insistent on protecting that identity against the Greeks, against foreigners. This is important because if you look at the Western world today, immigration identity, identity, and citizenship are huge political issues. I'm a Canadian citizen. I grew up in Canada. And over the past 10 years, the population of Canada went from like 30 million
Starting point is 01:01:04 to 40 million. These 10 million people are all foreigners who have no sense of Canadian identity. They have no interest in being Canadian. They just want a better life of themselves. 40% of Canadians now were either foreign-born or have a parent who is a foreign-born. So there's no more Canadian identity. And this is a problem why?
Starting point is 01:01:34 Because the United States, Trump, wants to take over Canada and make Canada into the 51st state. And there's a problem because Canadians don't want to resist against this. 10 years ago, all Canadians would say, nope, but now you have 10 million Canadians who are very happy to join the United States because it means more economic opportunities for them. Right? They don't care about cultural identity. So without controlling immigration, you as a nation can't be coherent and you will cease to exist over time.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And the same is true. The same is true of what's happening in Britain, throughout the Western world, basically. They're learning too many immigrants, and they're diluting their own cultural identity. So over the next 10, 20 years, a lot of people are predicting massive civil wars in the Western world as these nations grapple
Starting point is 01:02:35 with the consequences of unlimited immigration these past 10 years. So that's one thing to think about. One lesson that we can learn from the Roman world. Citizenship does matter. Make it hard to become a citizen. Make it valuable. Make it an honor to be a citizen.
Starting point is 01:02:56 And your nation will be strong. If citizenship is cheap, if you can just buy it, it's worthless. And you will cease to be culturally coherent. And eventually, you will cease to exist as a nation. That's the first major lesson. Second major lesson about Rome is, It won out because it was an aggressive nation.
Starting point is 01:03:19 But once you went out against your enemies, this aggression has to go somewhere. And it usually turns inward. And that's why Rome kept on fighting the civil wars amongst itself. And the same is true for America. America is a nation that worships aggression. For example, think about the number of guns in America. I don't know the exact statistics, but there's about 400 million guns in America. America only has 300 million people.
Starting point is 01:03:52 There are more guns than there are people in America. It worships violence. Also think about this. The most popular sport in America is American football. There's only one nation in the world that plays American football, and that's America. No other nation plays it. Why? Because it is barbaric.
Starting point is 01:04:11 You literally have people trying to kill. each other for the entertainment and pleasure of spectators it's barbaric I'm not sure if you know this but after five years of playing football these athletes the brains are mush and they commit suicide at age 30 or 35 okay so it's no different from gladiator sport in Rome which Romans love okay so what so America is a violent society if it cannot turn its outside it will turn violence it would direct its the violence and aggression inwards so I think within the next 10 years America will most likely start a
Starting point is 01:04:53 war probably against Iran okay so I'm predicting within the next five years America will start a war against Iran probably sooner and then America will start a civil war as well so civil war does that mean two sides fighting against each other it just means that there be a lot of political killings, assassinations, a lot of violence in America based on religious political differences. So the second lesson to learn from Rome. Aggression and violence will allow you to defeat your enemies. Once you do, this violence and aggression will turn inwards.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Okay? And the third lesson that we can learn from Rome is, again, no societies are stable. Everything changes over time. time so even though Rome was the dominant superpower of its time it still collapsed and the same is true for America today so the world will change and it always changes okay so next class we will look at the Roman Empire which is basically the Byzantine Empire okay any questions about today's class are
Starting point is 01:06:28 Very clear? Okay, great. So I will see you next slide.

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