Property Hub - Investment Insights & Inspiration - Get Invested: Part 2 - Which property would you hire now?

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, Frayton Fighters. Seven property applicants are waiting outside your interview room. One wants your family home to do the wealth-building heavy lifting. One's an established old campaigner with battle scars, good bones and a renovation resume. One's brand new, freshly pressed, energy efficient and waving tax deductions like reference letters. One looks as if a new home and an old location had an awkward office romance, which is the applicant I now refer to as the property platypus.

Starting point is 00:00:30 Another property applicant promises residential income, while another arrives late wearing a commercial suit and asking for a very large deposit. And the last applicant doesn't even give you the keys because it trades on an exchange. Now every one of these applicants can be excellent and everyone can also be an expensive turkey. So which property would you hire now? Now last week in part one, that property doesn't get a free pass because this is the property hub or because it's my preferred comfort asset. We wrote the property job description, examine property's honest resume and put it through our established gear set, sniff and Boshito health check. And we've reached a very specific verdict. Property has earned the right to apply, but it hasn't yet earned the job.

Starting point is 00:01:23 Because you can't hire an asset class. You hire one specific property to perform one specific job for one specific investor under one very specific financial contract. And that's where the property job interview gets interesting. Because today, we're opening property's full organisational chart. We'll expose the legitimate job of each approach, the good version, the bad version, who it may suit, who should leave it in the waiting room, and the immediate action that turns theory into a decision. Then we'll send five of property's loudest commentator opinions into the claim clinic before opening the employment contract marked finance, ownership, war chest, tax and exit. And right at the end, I'll reveal the one

Starting point is 00:02:10 decisive word that separates a prepared hiring opportunity from expensive optimism. So straight the chairs, hide the good biscuits and let's open the applications as together we get invested. And I'll see you in our best interview, close on the inside. Welcome to Get Invested on the Property Hub podcast channel, the leading weekly show for Australians who want to learn how to unlock their full self, health and wealth potential. I'm your host, Bushy Martin, and each week I go deep with the best investors, experts, leaders and founders to find out what it takes to break free from the grind, discover freedom and to live by design.

Starting point is 00:02:51 Subscribe now and join me and get invested in the life that you really want. Let's get started. But before we begin today, I've got a very special favour to ask you. I want you to picture two very different roads. The first is Bichmer, stretching out beyond Renmark, under Eddie the Frenchman on the runs, very battered feet. And you're now Eddie, after you've been running for 31 days straight

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Starting point is 00:05:48 next kilometre and your donation may become one family's next breath. So Eddie mate, keep moving wisely because Australia is behind you and moving with you. So one more step, one more family and one more reason not to face this a line. Thanks for your support. Welcome, friend Fiders. If you have interviewed someone whose regimen says they're a strategic thinker, a team player, self-starter and results-driven communicator with excellent attention to detail. And after 20 minutes, you still don't know whether they can use a photocopier. Well, property promotion can sound very similar,

Starting point is 00:06:29 with words like premium boutique, high growth, high yield, turnkey, set and forget, all bounded around willy-nilly. Where every property candidate sounds like employee per month until you ask what job it performs, what a cost to employee, what happens when conditions change,

Starting point is 00:06:47 and who'll want it when you eventually hand in your notice. And because this is get invested, I'm not going to pull a face like the ringlight just tazedly, then promise you the one property type that'll make you rich. We're going to do something far less algorithm-friendly, but far more useful. We'll tell you the truth about what each property applicant can do, can't do and shouldn't be hired to pretend to do.

Starting point is 00:07:13 Because this is part two of our deeper property diagnosis inside the continuing A for approach stage of your property wealth journey where your W for Y sets the destination, your E for examination defines your capacity, and your A for approach strategy, the strategy that starts with you, determines which approach has the best chance of getting you there. Now, if you missed last week's part one,

Starting point is 00:07:37 go back and start there if you can because it gives you the job description, gear set, sniff, Boshito, and the hard no rules that we're going to be applying today. But here's the 60 second recap briefing that you need right now. The so-called property market doesn't exist. Every property, street, suburb, price point, buy, profile and location has its own microclimate, microeconomy,

Starting point is 00:08:01 and place on a long, lumpy location-specific, 8 to 15-year growth S-curve. Statistics are wind vines, not steering wheels. Comfort helps create stickability, but familiarity is an evidence. and no amount of tax benefit, yield, renovation potential or glossy photography can average away a hard no. So today isn't a property beauty pageant. It's a job matching exercise because the best applicant isn't the property with the most impressive resume. It's the property whose strengths,

Starting point is 00:08:36 weaknesses, salary package and career path fit the life that you're actually building. Right. Job brief ready and truth detector on, because your first candidates waiting. So let's open the applications. And remember, these aren't seven property types competing for a beauty pageant sash. There's seven different jobs. No approach wins until you know the job, the household and the numbers. And we'll interview the three of them first. Live vesting, established growth property and differentiated qualifying new builds.

Starting point is 00:09:11 So enter applicant one, live vesting. And no, this isn't rent vesting with the letters put through a tumble dryer. Rent vesting means you rent where you want to live and invest elsewhere. Live vesting means your home itself does much of the wealth building work. Its job is to combine lifestyle and utility, potentially favourable main resident CGT treatment, non-deductible debt reduction and long-term equity growth. The good version isn't simply the biggest home a lender will let you wrestle into. It's an affordable, adaptable, investment-grade but owner-occupier appeal property

Starting point is 00:09:47 in a tightly held microclimate location with great local sentiment that you'd happily hold for at least 10 to 15 years or more. It's got broad future buyer appeal, land or attributes that can't be copied cheaply and some way to improve its utility without building the Taj Mahal beside the bins. The bad version is lifestyle inflation wearing an investment name badge where you over borrow, overcapitalise, earn no interest from the asset, and assume a future downsizer is going to solve everything. So use my liberation calculation.

Starting point is 00:10:22 Don't count the future value of the home. Count only the equity you could realistically liberate after selling costs, buying cost, debt repayment, and the cost of the replacement home that you actually accept. So here's a quick example. Imagine your home is worth $3 million when you want to break free. Now, that sounds magnificent. The house has a better superbalance than you do.

Starting point is 00:10:45 But if a suitable replacement home cost $2.2 million and selling, buying, moving and adjustment cost consume another $150,000, you haven't liberated $3 million. You've liberated about $650,000 before any remaining debt or personal tax and advice implications. At an indicative 5% net return income rate, that's about $32,500 a year. Useful?

Starting point is 00:11:10 Absolutely. A $150,000 freedom income? Not even wearing very optimistic prescription sunglasses. So the live vesting ready rector is future sale value minus future debt, minus transaction costs, minus the replacement home equals liberatable capital. Then apply a conservative net income rate. Gross home value isn't freedom capital. Live vesting can suit you if you've got stable income, a long runway, a location you'll enjoy, and a genuine willingness to release equity later. It may not suit you if you need investment income soon, may move repeatedly, already have too much wealth trapped in your home, or you'd rather sell a kidney than downsize the kitchen. Your action is to complete that liberation calculation before calling a bigger

Starting point is 00:12:04 home investment strategy. Now, enter interview applicant too, established growth property. Its legitimate job is to accumulate net nesting equity through scarce land, deep unoccupied demand, location-specific growth and improvements that you can influence. Now, the post-budget rules have changed its salary package. For an established residential property acquired after 7.30pm on the 12th of May, 2026, from the 1st of July 27, rental losses generally won't reduce salary and wage income as negative gearing has been removed. So those rental losses will generally be quarantined

Starting point is 00:12:45 to residential property income and relevant gains with excess losses carried forward, so delayed not lost. And future gains need to be modelled under the change CGT settings that start from the 1st July 2027. And those tax changes matter. But they don't move the property, create another treeline street,

Starting point is 00:13:06 or manufacture 500 desirable homes, beside a scarce one. They change your holding cost equation, not the physical growth drivers. And softer settlement may create a selection season with more choice, more thinking time, and more negotiating laterage. But only for the investor can carry the new salary package. So use my established edge stack. Look for at least three of the following five edges with no unresolved red traffic line. A discount to current replacement cost, useful in better land, constrained competing supply, at least three future emotionally driven buy groups, and a controllable improvement lever.

Starting point is 00:13:51 And one lonely edge isn't a strategy. It's a dating profile with excellent lighting. And now apply the Wiggly Cap test to our $750,000 property example that we outlined last week. That established property was costing about $750,000. $45 a week before any immediate negative gearing relief. If your safe household cap is $250 a week, you've got a $455 a week mismatch. Now imagine uncertain conditions help you negotiate $50,000 off the price. At 6.5% interest, that saves roughly $3,250 a year or about $62 a week before any buying cost saving.

Starting point is 00:14:34 A good negotiation? Yes. A rescue? No. You're still roughly $392 a week above your cap. And that's an important post-bug to the harm moment. A softer purchase price doesn't automatically create a holdable property. Price leverage can improve the higher. It can't perform financial CPR on a structural cash flow mismatch. Established growth property can see you if you've got strong surplus income, usable equity, a 10 to 15 year and the patients to select by microclimate location rather than hotspot or headline. It may not suit you if the deal needs a rate cut, a rent miracle or a tax floor reversal to remain affordable. So your action is to complete the five-edge stack, then run the property at its full pre-tax household cost before counting any future carry-for tax benefit. Now consider applicant number three, a differentiated qualifying year.

Starting point is 00:15:36 you build. The word qualifying is doing some pretty heavy lifting here. New isn't a tax status that you can determine from the smell of the paint. Under the current reforms, eligible new residential property can retain immediate negative gearing of treatment and access a choice between the existing 50% CGT discount and the new cost-based indexation CGT approach. But the detailed eligibility definitions and your personal treatment must be confirmed. before contract, not discovered during an awkward chat with your accountant three years later. The legitimate job of a good new build is to combine added housing supply, lower early maintenance, depreciation benefits, greater tax timing support and long-term growth from a genuinely desirable

Starting point is 00:16:25 home. The good version is differentiated by an X-factor or something future-owned occupiers are going to pay for, like better street and I now occupy appeal, better land, better orientation, better design, better energy performance, better flexibility, or a scarce established location where new supply is difficult to reproduce. The bad version is a tax deduction with a front door. It sits among hundreds of substitutes on minimal land with an investor-only floor plan, a heroic rental appraisal, and an incentive folded quietly into the contract price.

Starting point is 00:17:00 So perform the new build price x-ray. break the contract price into five layers. Independent land value, evidence-based build cost, site works and fees, developer margin and every rebate, upgrade, rent guarantee or furniture package. And spoiler alert, rebates, upgrades, rent guarantees or furniture packages are often flashing red alarms for bad versions, as there's no such thing as a free lunch and you'll generally end up paying for them all in more ways than one. So I then compare it with a completed established home at the same total budget, current replacement cost and an independent as-if-complete valuation.

Starting point is 00:17:42 If the $25,000 incentive disappears the moment an independent value or reduced to the property by $30,000, you haven't received the benefit, you've received some of your own money back wearing a party hat. Then run the duplicate test. How many completing lots, near identical floor plans, approved stages, and unsolved packages could compete with you over the next two plus years. Your new home should graduate into an established owner-occupier asset. It shouldn't remain a permanent display home competing with the developer's next free dishwasher.

Starting point is 00:18:18 And fund the construction runway. Any known deposit or valuation gap plus roughly 20% of your forecast construction interest on costs and emergency reserve. So in rough terms, make sure you will. Warchest, separate standalone, equity loan or your rainy day reserve, covers a minimum of 20% over above the total turnkey house and land cost. Now, a differentiated new build can suit you if you have PAYJ income that you can use the available deductions on, you can survive delays and valuation gaps, you want lower initial maintenance, and you've found a genuinely strong and scarce microclimate location and design. It may not suit you if you need rent from day

Starting point is 00:19:01 one, you can't fund a construction surprise or the tax result is the only reason that you're buying it. Your immediate action here is to assemble a four-file hiring pack before signing, which consists of written confirmation of tax eligibility from your own registered tax advisor, an independent valuation, a fixed scope construction and build a risk with you, and the local future supply file. So our first three applicants all have a legitimate role. The investing can turn your home into a long-term equity engine. Established property can buy scarce attributes and a selection season edge.

Starting point is 00:19:39 And a differentiated qualifying new build can combine supply, tax timing and lower early maintenance. But none gets hired by category. Each gets hired by evidence, holdability and the job it performs for you. Which brings us to the strangest applicant on the short list. It's got the location and land DNA on an established property, the function and efficiency of something new, and the ability to manufacture value instead of waiting politely for it to arrive. And this is what I affectionately call the property platypus.

Starting point is 00:20:17 And unlike the Australian mammal, this one doesn't just look like someone assembled it after Friday drinks. It may be one of the few post-budget approaches capable of collecting three separate paychecks from the same property. So where do the three paychecks come from? Well, enter applicant for the property platypus. Now put simply, it puts a young home on old dirt. It thoughtfully adds new housing supply inside an established microclimate location, often through boutique infill, retaining one home and adding another subdivision, or turning one tired old dwelling into two or more

Starting point is 00:20:55 well-designed new ones. So I may combine and established location body, a new home bill, and if it genuinely qualifies, a potentially useful long tax tail. But never let the textile wag the investment platypus. So its first possible paycheck is the selection check, buying proven amenities, scarce land and existing demand, and a price that leaves room for the work. Its second is the creation check. The equity you manufacture when conservative completed value exceeds every acquisition, planning, finance, construction, holding tax and selling cost. And its third is the income check, extra rent, lower operating costs, depreciation benefits and potentially improved after tax holdability.

Starting point is 00:21:46 But don't count the same dollar twice. Lutifully used to justify the valuation can't magically reappear as free profit in another spreadsheet tab. So here's a real-world illustration, not a promise of representative performance. Imagine an existing property is purchased for 751,000 and currently rents for $610 a week. About 300,000 is then required to add a second dwelling, producing another $570 a week of rent. That creates roughly $1,180 a week of combined rent on about $1.05 million of purchase and build spend before buying cost finance contingency and tax. Now, the rent has nearly doubled, but the return hasn't.

Starting point is 00:22:31 Because double rent isn't double return when capital employed has also grown. So divide the approach into two possible jobs. Keep both dwellings on one title, and you're mainly pursuing income and holdability. Create separate titles, and you may pursue manufactured equity, separate finance and optional exits.

Starting point is 00:22:52 But subdivision also brings more capital, more time, more tax complexity and more ways for council to discover a previously hidden hobby. Now apply the twin hair cart test, increase every unfinished project cost by 10% and reduce the conservative completed value by 5%. If your creation check vanishes, the margin was never wearing enough clothes. Then get four independent green lights. A planner confirms what can be built, a value on lender confirmed completed value on finance, a building expert checks the builder,

Starting point is 00:23:28 scope, contract services and contingency and your own registered tax advisor confirms eligibility and treatment. If the brochure is doing all full jobs, leave that platypus in the pond. Because that's just one bloke in a Nicar doing four different voices. Now, the platypus can suit

Starting point is 00:23:47 an experience accumulated with time, capital project capacity and a strong specialist team. It won't suit you if your funding's tired, you need certainty or you think development means choosing between two shades of white. Now let's consider applicant five residential income property. This includes dual income homes, co-living, rooming style accommodation and other specialist residential formats. Its legitimate job is to improve income density, holdability and for the right investor, future liberated cash flow. But the headline gross yield is only the employee's LinkedIn profile.

Starting point is 00:24:26 You still need to ring the references. So use what I call the yield waterfall. Start with gross rent, then subtract realistic vacancy, management, utilities, cleaning, gardening, furnishing replacement, maintenance, compliance, insurance, rates and a capital reserve. What survives is stabilised net income. So imagine a $1 million specialist residential property advertised at 8% gross yield. That's 80 grand. But if it's genuine operating and replacement costs consume 28,000,

Starting point is 00:25:02 stabilized income is 52,000 or 5.2% net. At 70% debt and 6.5% interest, interest alone is about 45,500. So your apparent $80,000 income machine has become about $6,000. $6,500 before principal tax and wage surprises. Now, that doesn't make it bad, but it does make it honest. Then run free shocks, 10% lower rent, eight extra weeks at vacancy and 15% higher expenses. And remember, two rents under one roof aren't automatically diversified if planning, insurance, operator or compliance problem can stop both. So here, the good version has verified demand, correct legal use, experience management, multiple

Starting point is 00:25:55 tenant sources and an exit to more than just another investor. A bad version needs permanent full occupancy, heroic rent, cheap utilities and a project manager with eight arms and no annual leave. It can suit an income-focused investor who accepts higher management and compliance intensity. It won't suit you if you want passive. to mean you've forgotten her you dress. Now, applicant number six has arrived in a blazer, direct commercial property. It's a legitimate job, its contractual income, potential outgoing recovery, longer leases and later stage lifestyle cash flow. But commercial isn't residential property with tie on.

Starting point is 00:26:40 The tenant and lease may be worth more than the carpet walls and inspirational quoting reception. So interview four assets. The land, the building, the lease and the tenant covenant. Then apply the cap rate seesaw. And if cap rate is new language view, here's the plain English version. A capitalisation rate or cap rate is the property's sustainable annual net operating income

Starting point is 00:27:06 divided by its value. It's the markets for required income return for that asset, lease, tenant, location and risk before your finance and personal tax. It's not your mortgage interest rate. So same neighbourhood of numbers, but completely different employee ID. Now, a lower cap rate means buyers accept less income for each dollar of value, so the price rises. A higher cap rate means buyers demand more return for the risk so the value falls.

Starting point is 00:27:37 And that's why commercial values can move without the rent moving one cent. Value equals sustainable net operating income divided by the cap rate, So $90,000 of sustainable annual income supports $1.5 million at a 6% cap rate. At 7.5% the same 90,000 supports only $1.2 million. That's a $300,000 valuation movement without the tenant missing one payment. And if that sole tenant then leaves for six months, $45,000 of headline income disappears before incentives, fit out, make good work, legal fees or leasing commission. So a commercial salary can look magnificent

Starting point is 00:28:18 until its only employer leaves and it takes 14 months to update LinkedIn. So don't hire the logo or brochure yield. Test market rent, lease expiry, tenant strength, incentives, re-letting evidence, capital expenditure, debt expiry and the future buy pool. And fund a re-letting runway

Starting point is 00:28:38 that includes vacant interest, owner paid outgoings, incentives, works and leasing costs. Now, a commercial can suit an experienced well-capitalised income-focused investor who can survive a long vacancy without a for sale. It's usually a poor first property employee for someone whose plan is, surely the tenant won't leave. Let's now consider applicant 7, which is listed, unlisted, fractional and specialist property exposure. Its job is to provide property income and growth

Starting point is 00:29:11 with smaller starting capital, professional management, and potentially greater diversification. Now, listed property trusts are continuously priced and generally easy to buy or sell, but their price can move like shares because that's how you're holding them. Unlisted funds may appear calmer because the valuation isn't flashing you every three seconds,

Starting point is 00:29:32 but silence isn't stability. Value may be less transparent and withdrawals restricted when you want the most. Then there's fractional property investing. This lets you invests, a much smaller amount into a specific property or property portfolio through units or shares in the vehicle that owns it. Now usually you're not buying the onsuit and three quarters of the leather box on your own title. You're buying an interest in a trust, a company, a managed

Starting point is 00:30:02 investment scheme or a platform structure that owns the property. That smaller ticket can help you diversify across locations, sectors and tenants without needing a full deposit for each one. It can also provide property income without Saturday inspections, midnight maintenance calls, or discovering that your tenant has given the laundry a water feature promotion. But small entry pass doesn't mean small risk. Before buying a fraction, identify exactly what you legally own, who holds a title, who controls the bank account, how the property is valued, what every fee removes,

Starting point is 00:30:39 how much debt sits underneath it, and how you get out. because some fractions trade on a secondary market. Some depend on another buyer appearing, and some remain about as liquid as a brick and a swimming pool until the manager sells the asset. So read the PDS or offer document, check the operator's licence and custody arrangements and run the same moot-free file you'd use for any fund.

Starting point is 00:31:06 Fractional access changes the size of the admission ticket. It doesn't change the quality of the show. So for specialist property exposure, asked my distribution detective question. Where did the distribution come from? Was it funded by genuine operating cash or partly by borrowing, capital, revaluation or asset sales? Income paid from your own capital isn't yield. It's your wallet coming home in smaller pieces. Then expose the hidden leverage.

Starting point is 00:31:39 Imagine you invest 200 grand in a fund, using an undergrant of cash, and $100,000 of personal debt. If the fund itself has 40% gearing, your $200,000 of units controls about $33,000 of underlying property. Between your debt and the fund's debt, you've got about $23,000 of total look-through debt against $33,000 of assets.

Starting point is 00:32:04 That's roughly 70% affected gearing. So the brochure may say 40%, your household says 70%. So debt has worn two different name tags, but it still eats at the same lunch table. So your one-page look-through file needs underlying assets, occupancy, top tenants, lease expiries, fund debt maturities, your personal debt, fees, valuation frequency, distribution sources and withdrawal gates. Special exposure can be innovative in rewarding. but make sure you add the operator planning, construction, regulation and narrower exit risks

Starting point is 00:32:47 to the resume. Now, this approach can suit you if you want property exposure, diversification, professional management or a smaller entry ticket. It won't suit you if you need direct control, manufactured value or instant access to an unlisted investment that never promised it. So that wraps our complete property job board, seven legitimate careers. is no predetermined winner and no category gets hired without the right fit evidence funding and behaviour now before we march into the claim clinic i'm not going to leave you with seven applicants

Starting point is 00:33:23 apply its mole and the brochure saying you decide that is an education that's property steed dating with stamp duty so let me give you my professional line of best fit for two broad investors not personal advice not a universal winner and definitely not permission to buy the first can candidate with white benchtops and emotional support cushions. This is a short list, built on standard assumptions, that still has to pass gear set sniff, Boshito, the triple ceiling and independent advice. So let's consider the line of best fit for the affordable growth accumulator.

Starting point is 00:33:59 So picture a couple in their mid-30s, both working two kids, a home mortgage and a maximum sustainable property contribution that they can afford to put in of about 300 bucks a week. There are runways 15 years or more. Their primary job for property is not to replace wages next Tuesday is to manufacture a larger future net nest egg without blowing up the day's household cash flow. For that investor, my first candidate post-budget

Starting point is 00:34:24 would usually be a differentiated qualifying new build infield property inside an established tightly held high-demand, low-supply, microclimate location. Not generic fringe stock, not 84 identical tax, townhouses sharing one investor brochure and not a depreciation schedule with a roof attached. I'm looking for scarce underlying land, boutique supply, a full plan real people want, access to established jobs, schools, transport, shops and amenity, plus at least three future buyer groups and they need to be emotionally driven. Then it must pass the new build price

Starting point is 00:35:02 X-ray, the duplicate test, and independent rent valuation bill cost and eligibility evidence. Indictively, that might mean a quality candidate around somewhere between $700 and $800,000, subject always to the lowest of three ceilings. Now, our earlier $750,000 illustration at 80% debt and 6.5% interest, modeled a qualifying new build at about $638 a week before tax-time benefits, and about $217 a week after the model PAYG withholding tax benefit. Now that sits inside a $300 weekly life ceiling on the stated assumptions. But the household may still need to fund the pre-tax gap

Starting point is 00:35:46 before their tax return refund shows up if they can't afford or orchestrate a PYG withholding tax variation. Because a PAYG tax variation changes when the tax benefit arrives from every year to every pay, but it doesn't change the property's economics. So it's a payroll adjustment, not a fairy godmother weather calculator. And the $300 ceiling needs to survive higher rates, lower rent, vacancy, maintenance and parental leave or income interruption scenarios, not merely the happy spreadsheet. For ownership, if the strategy relies on personal negative gearing, personal joint ownership,

Starting point is 00:36:28 including tenants in common in property advised proportions, this will often be more relevant than a discretionary trust that may trap losses and significantly increase holding costs. But ownership shares change tax, asset protection, estate planning, borrowing and future flexibility. So your accountant, solicitor and investment specialist broker need to settle all of that before you sign the contract. Now under the post-budget framework, a generalised, qualify new build can retain negative gearing access and the choice on sale between the 50%

Starting point is 00:37:04 CGT discount or indexation with the minimum tax rules where eligible. But qualification, commencement dates and personal tax agreement must be confirmed under the law operating at contract and sale. So the verdict for the affordable growth accumulator investor is this. Growth first, scarcity always, tax support only where genuine and a holding cost. that the household can survive without needing the property to win an employee every month. Let's now explore an indicative line of best fit for what I call the cash flow converter. So in this case, Pixar 8 couple in their early 50s, the one in their home, hold two mortgage pre-budget investment properties, and are already projected to exceed their required net nest egg.

Starting point is 00:37:52 Their primary job is no longer maximum accumulation. It's reliable, low touch, post-work lifestyle income. So my first instruction wouldn't automatically be buy a third property. It would be run the equity rehire test on the two grandfathered employees, then decide whether retain, tune, de-leverage, add legitimate income or progressively release one. Now, grandfathering can be valuable, but it isn't tenure. A tax concession can improve a good employee's package. It can turn a serial underperformer into management material. So if a new direct residential property is still justified,

Starting point is 00:38:38 my stronger shortlist would be a legally compliant multi-income design, such as a well-executed dual occupancy, dual key, co-living or rooming configuration, where the use is lawful, financeable, insurable and supported by real demand. Think and establish Capital City Satellite or measure a regional centre hub with several large employers at debt renterpool, hospital, education, transport and an exit market beyond yield chasing investors. Indicatively, that may sit in the 800 to 1.5 million

Starting point is 00:39:12 bracket depending on the market and configuration. But the number that matters is not the advertise yield. It's the net lifestyle income after vacancy, management, rates, insurance, maintenance, capital reserve, debt service and tax. If they want more diversification, a smaller ticket and less management, a carefully selected listed, unlisted or fractional property exposure may be the better supporting hire provided the PDS, liquidity, fees, distributions and look through debt, all pass inspection. And direct commercial?

Starting point is 00:39:46 Well, potentially, but only for a household with deep equity, strong buffers, and the capacity to survive one tenant turning annual leave into permanent departure. For me, I'd generally be looking at the $2 million plus end, the commercial, rather than the bargain-bin small-bought commercial stuff, because quality of land, building, lease, tenant covenant and future buyer depth usually matters much more than the headline yield. And even $2 million is an magic force field. At an illustrative $2 million purchase, with conservative 6% debt, the loan is still $1.2 million, and the equity contribution is $8.5.5.5%. is 800 grand, before stamp duty, legal, valuation, building, environmental and finance costs plus the vacancy and re-leading war chest. At an illustrative 7.5% interest rate,

Starting point is 00:40:38 interest alone is 90 grand a year. If sustainable net operating income is 140 grand, that leaves about $50,000 before principal, capital expenditure and tax. So useful income, yes. But one serious vacancy can put the entire payroll on stress leave. And particularly while a number of experienced accommodators are warning that parts of commercial property look overvalued, I demand a genuine cap rate and valuation market of safety, not assume the yield would carry the whole interview. Commercials often held through a trust with a corporate trustee for asset protection,

Starting point is 00:41:16 succession and ownership flexibility reasons. But trust can change land tax, loss use, finance, administration and tax treatment including the new discretionary trust rules. So entity selection is an 8-tech decision made by your accountant and your lawyer before contract, not something selected from a podcast drop-down menu. So the verdict for the cash-high converter is this. First, rehire and tune the grandfather portfolio, then buy only if the new property employee materially lifts reliable net lifestyle income

Starting point is 00:41:53 after every cost of risk. For many, that means a lawful multiple income residential asset or diversified property exposure. For the well-capitalised few, it may mean quality commercial at a conservative entry price and debt level. Now, that's the line of best fit, not a marriage certificate. But before you choose,

Starting point is 00:42:16 we need to drag five very loud current commentator claims into the interview room, because you're now being told by the media and a mix of conflicting self-proclaimed property experts with barely concealed self-interest across April Thorough of podcasts that a suburbities dead, new bills are the only sensible choice, your homes should now do all the heavy lifting, commercial as the obvious cash flow saviour, and yield fixes everything. Now, one of those claims contains a useful truth, but swallowed whole, all five can give your freedom plan a very unprecedented,

Starting point is 00:42:51 comfortable dose of financial intergestion. So let's prescribe some financial ant acid. And welcome to the property commentator claim clinic where the waiting room is full of confident opinions and none of them filled in the medical history. So I'm going to give every claim the same five-part examination. What's true, what's missing, who benefits if you believe it, what evidence would change the verdict, and what should you actually do next? So let's work through them one by one. Name one, established property's dead. Well, the useful truth is, change tax treatment, high holding costs and less forgiving finance can expose a lazy established property very quickly. A tired dwelling in a weak micro-climate location with no scarcity, no land advantage, no improvement

Starting point is 00:43:40 potential, a chunky maintenance bill and poor local area perception isn't suddenly a bargain because the agent describes it as tightly held. Sometimes it's tightly held, because that last owner couldn't find the exit. But the missing truth is, an entire category doesn't die because one spreadsheet needed a funeral drater. So use my model transfer test. Take the case being used to bury established property

Starting point is 00:44:07 and give each alternative the same starting equity, the same buying capacity, the same annual cash contribution, the same holding period, the same buying and selling costs, and the same concerted exit assumptions. Then compare our, after tax cash required, debt remaining and net sale proceeds.

Starting point is 00:44:26 If the winner changes when one heroic growth rate, one tax assumption, one convenient refinance is removed, you haven't discovered a universal truth. You've discovered a very sensitive spreadsheet. And the action here is simple. Don't reject established property. Reject weak property. An established candidate must earn its place through scarcity,

Starting point is 00:44:48 unoccupier appeal, land or layout advantage, usable value at potential, deep resale demand and affordable cash flow holdability under your actual numbers. That's not nostalgia, that's evidence. Claim two, new builds are now the only sensible choice. Well, the youthful truth here is an eligible new property may offer stronger depreciation, lower early maintenance, modern tenant appeal and access to tax treatment. That can improve the after tax holdability. That can be very valuable. But valuable isn't the same as automatically good value. The missing question is how much of that advantage has already been loaded into the purchase price.

Starting point is 00:45:32 So here's a test. Take a black market to the brochure and block out the words new, tax, depreciation, incentive and limited release. Now ask, does the underlying land value still make sense? Does an independent valuation support the completed price? Is the design genuinely scarce or are 300 incestuous cousins about to arrive next door? Is there established tenant and owner-occupied demand? And could you resell it without the original tax story? If the answer collapses when the colourful brochure goes quiet,

Starting point is 00:46:07 it wasn't property research, it was stationary appreciation. Remember, a tax deduction doesn't need a postcode, an investment does. So don't buy new just to claim more. But by differentiated new supply, when location, land, design, cost, quality, demand, finance and exit, all independently pass. Claim three, your home should now do all the heavy lifting because it's CGT free when you sell, which of course is the live vesting case. The useful truth here is that a well-selected home can be a wonderfully simple wealth foundation. It can provide lifestyle utility, exposure to scarce land, and a reason to eliminate non-deductible debt with real urgency. But a home earns emotional rent.

Starting point is 00:46:57 It doesn't pay your grocery bill. And its gross value isn't automatically freedom capital. That depends on what you'd actually release, when you'll release it, and what the replacement home will cost at that time. So run the downsizer signature test. Could you write down today the location you'd move to, the likely replacement price range, the age or date that you generally move, and the minimum that amount that you'd expect to release? Then could your partner sign the same page without crossing out the location, the date and most of your optimism? If not, don't count that home equity as future lifestyle income yet.

Starting point is 00:47:37 Your home has got to pass two desks. Firstly, you're at the life desk. Does it support the life you value without suffocating everything else? And secondly, you're at the investment desk. Does the location, land component, buy depth, holding cost and likely future demand justify the concentration? A beautiful family home can be a great home and still be a very demanding and costly employee. Claim 4.

Starting point is 00:48:08 Commercial property is now the obvious cash flow saviour. Well, the useful truth here is that commercial can deliver contractual income, longer leases, tenant paid outgoings and a clearer connection between income and value. But commercial isn't residential property wearing a navy blazer. The income can stop in much larger chunks, and the building doesn't care that your retirement plan was colour-coded. So calculate a risk-premium pay slip. Start with a sustainable net operating income yield,

Starting point is 00:48:39 then subtract your all-in cost of debt. Then subtract an annual allowance for vacancy, leasing incentives, capital works, professional fees, and the reduced liquidity of a specialised asset. What's left is your true risk premium. If it's thin, zero or negative, you're not being paid much for the extra risk. You're relying on future rental growth, perfect occupancy, or somebody later, accepting a lower return than you did. Now, that may happen, but hope isn't a tenant. covenant. And when you investigate the lease, follow the tenant not the logo. Who legally owns the rent?

Starting point is 00:49:19 Who, how strong is that entity? How essential is this site to their operation? What rent review mechanism applies? What happens at expiry? And how long could your cash flow buffer carry the entire vacancy and the next incentive? Now, commercial can be an excellent specialist hire, but don't promote it to head of household income after the just one impressive interview. Claim 5. Rental yield fixes everything. Well, the useful truth here is that strong to sustainable net income can improve holdability, reduce reliance on wages and help bridge the journey from accumulation to liberation. But gross yield isn't cash flow. It's rent a bided by price before reality sends you the invoices. So you take a $750,000 property renting for

Starting point is 00:50:08 640 bucks a week. That's 33,02090 a year or roughly 4.44% gross yield. At 80% borrowing, the loan is $600,000. At 6.5% interest, interest alone is $39,000 a year. That's already 5.2% of the purchase price before management rates, insurance, maintenance, vacancy, land tax were applicable and the occasional tap that waits for Christmas leave to discover its personality. So the gross yield trails the interest burden by about 0.76 percentage points before those other costs arrive. That difference is your yield to debt gap. So calculate that first. Then calculate the true pre-tax and after-tax catch shortfall using your loan, your ownership structure and your real expenses. And ask one more question. Why is the yield high? Is it produced by genuine housing?

Starting point is 00:51:04 scarcity, better use of land, multiple legitimate incomes or stronger to tenant demand. Or is it compensation for weak growth drivers, short-lived demand, specialised use, high turnover, poor financeability or a price that fell for a very good reason. High yield can be a reward for intelligence. It can also be danger wearing a name badge. And here's the biggest strategic problem with treating rent as the entire retirement. plan. Most investors will never be able to buy and fully repay enough direct property to fund their desired post-work lifestyle from net rent alone. Not because property failed, because the household eventually hits their barefax barriers of buying capacity, equity access, affordability and risk

Starting point is 00:51:53 capacity. Banks have ceilings. Households have ceilings. And apparently, children just don't accept Dad's chasing yield as payment for school camp. So reverse engineer the freedom payroll. If you want 120 grand a year of sustainable lifestyle income and the eventual portfolio earns a genuine 5% net yield before personal tax, you need about 2.4 million of debt-free investible capital. At a 4% net yield, you need about 3 million before allowing for tax inflation and a safety reserve.

Starting point is 00:52:27 That's why buy enough rentals and live off the rent is often a slogan but not a funded strategy. The more realistic wealth-by-stelf curve for many investors is, use quality growth assets while you have time, income, surfaceability in a long runway to build the larger net nest egg first. Then, years before and after your break-free timeline date, progressively convert selected growth equity into lifestyle cash flow. That may involve stage sales across more than one financial year where appropriate,

Starting point is 00:52:57 so cash flow, capital gains and tax timing can be managed deliberately rather than detonated on one June afternoon. You then use the net proceeds out for selling costs, debt and tax to fund higher-eweeting more diversified and often lower time and lower cost amendment assets that can then pay your ongoing lifestyle income. Those replacement assets may include income property, listed property, shares, ETFs, index funds, fixed income or a deliberate blend subject to your plan and the advice you get.

Starting point is 00:53:29 So growth and yield aren't rival football teams they're different employees on different shifts. Growth generally builds the payroll reserve. Cash flow progressively pays the lifestyle wages and the handover needs to be planned well before your boss receives your final out of officer reply. Of course, stage selling doesn't automatically reduce tax. The result depends on your cost bases, ownership, other income,

Starting point is 00:53:57 current CGT rules and professional advice. But it gives you multiple decision points rather than one enormous retirement garage sale. So that's my take on the full five current claims that I hear constantly at the moment from commentators that are peddling and in many cases are very thinly disguised attempts to feather their own nest. So now there's one final examination for all of these five claims. Follow the invoice.

Starting point is 00:54:25 Who gets paid if you accept. the claim. How do they get paid? What risks remain with you after they've been paid? And what would need to be true for then to recommend the opposite approach? Now, that isn't cynicism. It's incentive literacy. Because the advisor, seller, developer, buyer, agent, lender, accountant, podcaster and blake at the barbecue, I all see the same property through a very different invoice, including me. property is my comfort asset because I understand it, I enjoy it, and unlike a share certificate, I can often influence, create or manufacture its value. But comfort is a disclosure.

Starting point is 00:55:06 It isn't a substitute for your own diagnostics. So when the next bowl claim lands in your feed, write down just four things. The useful truth, the missing variable, the source and payment trial, and the decision rule that would make you say yes or no. That little claim card will save you from outsourcing your future to the loudest ringlight. But even when the property passes, you can still turn a great hire into an expensive mistake with the wrong payroll, the wrong employment contract and the wrong name of the paperwork. Because the loan purpose, the repayment structure, cash buffers and ownership structure

Starting point is 00:55:45 can change what this employee really cost you, how long you can keep it and who receives the final pay packet. and one of the most expensive property mistakes you can make often happens before you own anything at all. And that mistake is signing the property contract before you've designed the money contract because the same property at the same price with the same rent can become two very different investments depending on how you borrow, where your spare cash sits, what you use each dollar for and whose name appears on the contract. So before property starts work, you need to settle at salary package at six leave,

Starting point is 00:56:25 emergency cover and the legal employer. So let's start with the pay slip. Rule 1. One loan purpose per line split. Not one loan per property, one purpose per split. Purchase deposit, buying cost, construction, improvements and private spending can all have very different purposes. So give them different buckets because the property offered as security tells you.

Starting point is 00:56:49 the bank what it may actually be able to seize. But the destination of the borrowed money helps determine what the borrowing was for. So if you borrow against an investment property to buy a boat, you haven't created an investment debt. You've created a floating tax headache. And call the boat the deduction all you like, the ATO probably won't appreciate your nautical humour. This is why redraw an offset aren't twins. They're barely cousins. Money sitting in an offset account reduces the interest charge without paying down and re-borrowing the original loan principle. A redraw is a new borrowing event, so its use needs to be traced. Mix a kitchen renovations, school fees and an investment deposit and barley holiday through the same redraw,

Starting point is 00:57:35 and your account may require an archaeological dig with bank statements. So use my clean bucket rule. No groceries, holidays, cars or private bills throw investment split, not even temporarily. and don't tie every property to every loan through cross-securitisation or cross-collateralisation that the banks love to harden the foreign print because it reduces their risk, but significantly increases yours. Easy tell on this, if the bank needs to be more than the property that you're buying or selling, then it's likely that your loans are cross-securitised across your properties, and you need to avoid this like the plague for the wrath of reasons that I detail on the full property wealth program. So whenever finance allows, build sensible security fences by ensuring standalone loans on each property.

Starting point is 00:58:22 So selling, refinancing or changing modern property doesn't require the bank to interview of the entire family and then potentially prevent you from doing what you want to do. Next comes the repayment question. Interest only or principal in interest. Now, I'm generally a fan of keeping investment-purpose debt interest only, while you still have non-deductable home loan debt. Why? Because your surplus cash can then pond in the home loan offset, attacking the debt that normally receives the lease tax assistance while preserving the original balance and clean purpose of the investment loans. Then, once the home loan debt is gone,

Starting point is 00:59:00 you can redirect that same surplus to the next debt that you deliberately choose to reduce, including through offset ponding so that you progressively achieve freehold ownership rather than paying a little bit of everything and fully only nothing. And yes, interest-only loans may attract a high rate or extra fees. Deductability may suffer the after-tax cost. It doesn't make the premium disappear, a tax deduction for discount, not a reimbursement from the Department of Free Money. So the right repayment order depends on purpose, after-tax cost, liquidity, risk, annual principal reduction plan with tax and credit advice. But interest-only is an interest-only. But interest-only is an interest-recent. It's principal postponed. So on a 600,000 alone at an indicative 6.5%, interest only is about

Starting point is 00:59:50 $3,250 a month. Principal and interest over a fresh 30-year term at the same rate is about $3,792 a month. That's about a $542 a month difference or roughly a 17% increase, because the principal spread across the full 30 months. So this is where the 25% to 45% rule of thumb needs its name badge checked. After five years of interest only, if the same 600 grand must be repaid over the remaining 25 years at the same rate, the payment rises to about $4,050 a month. That's about $800 more than interest only, or roughly 25% higher. And if only 20 years remain, repayments about 4,470-odd bucks a month, or roughly 1225 bucks more, or about 38% higher. A shorter remaining term or a higher rate can push that step up towards the 45% end.

Starting point is 01:00:49 So the breathing room's real and so is the expiry date. So review it well before expiry. Refinancing or extending the interest-only period may be useful that remains appropriate and the lender approves it, but it's not guaranteed and it's not free. So before using interest only, pass the 4P test of purpose, price, period and principal plan, where purpose answers what productive job does the cash flow difference perform? For price, what rate premium and fees are you paying for the flexibility?

Starting point is 01:01:22 For period, when does interest only end and when you review the strategy? And the principal plan? How will the debt eventually be reduced? refinanced or cleared. If the spare 800 bucks or whatever your actual gap is, simply develops an Uber Eats habit, you don't have a finance strategy, you just got a more expensive dinner. Now let's deal with debt recycling. Use properly, it may progressively place non-deductible home debt with separate, clearly traced borrowings used for income-producing investments. But please hear the word separate here. Simply paying extra money into one home

Starting point is 01:02:01 an account, then repeatedly redrawing it for investments, private bills and the occasional barley escape can create mixed-purpose debt. And mixed-purpose debt can become accounting spaghetti wearing a mortgage, because the tax treatment generally follows what each borrowing is used for, not the property that secures a loan. So a redraw is treated as new borrowing, and if private investment purposes share one account, interests may need ongoing apportionment. That's why this needs to be engineered before the first transfer, not reconstructed from bank statements three tax returns later. Now, certain special offenders offer master limit-style loan facilities

Starting point is 01:02:42 that can actually make this plumbing cleaner. Think of one approved umbrella limit secured against the home, typically cap that the lower of about 80% LVR or your borrowing capacity and, of course, subject to lender policy. Under that umbrella, it's at least two separate loan splits, one non-deductable home loan split and one dedicated investment purpose split. As the home loan balances to deliberately reduce, the lender will allow the approved sub-account limits to be rebalanced

Starting point is 01:03:12 so that the capacity moves from the home loan split to the separate investment split without increasing the total umbrella limit. But don't assume that happens automatically. The facility, credit approval, rebalancing process fees and lender rules will matter. Every investment drawing should then travel directly from the dedicated split to the documented income-producing investment with no private pit stops. So clean lanes, clean records, no financial roundabouts with six exits and a missing sign. Now imagine the home loan split is reduced by 50 grand and under the approved facility,

Starting point is 01:03:50 50 grand of limit is deliberately reallocated to the separate investment purpose split. That 50,000 is then invested directly. If the investment falls 20%, it's now worth 40 grand, but the debt is still 50 grand. Clean structure and tracing may support the intended tax treatment. They can't vaccinate you against leverage, volatility or bad selection. So debt recycling is a useful servant, but a dangerous saviour. And it's not a do-it-yourself trick to copy from a podcast with one eye on redraw and the other on tax deductions. If you're considering, reach out to me.

Starting point is 01:04:29 I can point you towards an investment special small-leash broker who understands master limit structures, loan purpose and clean split orchestration. Then have the broker-account or tax advisor, financial advisor where relevant, and your actual risk capacity all pointing in the same direction before anything moves. Then comes property sick leave fund in the form of what I call my rainy day interest-only equity loan war chest. This is a clean, separate prearranged facility designed to help you survive a valuation gap, a vacancy, urgent repair, construction delay or temporary income interruption. It is an income.

Starting point is 01:05:08 It isn't a deposit for the next shiny object. And it definitely isn't permission to install a pool with a swimout bar. Where the war chest facility allows funds to remain undrawn, you generally only pay interest once you use the money, a bit like a credit card. But availability, terms and tax treatment depend on the facility and what each draw funds. So arrange the umbrella while the sun's out, the specialist investment savvy broker. Don't wait until the bank can see lightning in your pay slips. And as a starting rule of thumb, I often begin the Warchess-Roney-Day Reserve fund limit

Starting point is 01:05:45 around 10% of the purchase price for an established property and 20% for a new build to cover interest during construction costs, etc. So you don't need to use your salary of savings that may then actually restrict your lifestyle. So on an $800,000 existing purchase, that first war chest compensation starts at around $80,000. But don't stop at the percentage. Build the actual failure bill.

Starting point is 01:06:09 For example, six months of interest is say $24,000. Vacancy in re-letting, approximately $8,000. Urgy repairs allow $15,000. household income interruption, budget for about 20 grand. Now, that all totals around 67,000. Now, your property income, dependence, insurance, loan structure and known capital works may require more or less. So the 10% for existing and 20% for new build gets you into the car park.

Starting point is 01:06:38 The failure bill tells you which value that you actually need. So for a new bill, start with the known deposit and any potential conservative bank valuation shortfall, then add a meaningful allowance for construction interest delays on cost variations and emergency reserve. Again, around 20% on top of those known construction exposures can start the conversation, but a fixed percentage doesn't know you build a contract site or your lender. Now test the finance at two different desks. Firstly, at the lender's desk, where APRA regulated banks currently apply at least a 3% mortgage servicing buffer. That's the potential approval test. Then secondly, test it at your kitchen table and run your own survival test.

Starting point is 01:07:22 I want to see what your numbers do if the actual rate rises by at least 2%, then add vacancy, repairs and income disruption as separate shocks. Bank approval tells you that the loan passed the bank's policy, but it doesn't tell you that your household's going to sleep well. Now we reach the legal employer, and we're talking about ownership structure. and this decision belongs before you sign the contract. Not a settlement, not after the accountant returns from leave, and definitely not when you suddenly discover that changing ownership later

Starting point is 01:07:55 is likely to trigger stamp duty, tax refinancing and legal costs, which can get very expensive. And there's no magic structure here. Only a structure that best fits of this property job, your household, your tax position, your risks and your eventual exit. So let's quickly run through them. Firstly, there's personal ownership, joint ownership or tenants in common, which generally offer simpler finance, direct access,

Starting point is 01:08:21 and where eligible, usable personal tax outcomes. Unequal tennis and common percentage splits may sometimes align ownership with different incomes and contributions to better optimise the quantum of tax deductibility if it's available. And from an eligible negative-eat-property, a P-A-Y-G withholding tax variation may improve the timing of cash flow for better holding cost affordability.

Starting point is 01:08:43 but it doesn't create a deduction and the ownership percentages can't be ridden each June like the office footy tips. Then there's discretionary trusts and or family trusts that may create genuine asset protection, control, distribution and succession purposes. But losses generally remain inside the trust, finance and land tax are generally less friendly

Starting point is 01:09:06 and the announced trust tax changes still require current advice on final detail and application. A unit or fixed trust, or properly documented co-ownership management, may define interests between unrelated investors, but define units don't define what happens when one party can't fund the next cash call. So imagine two friends buy 50-50, but one later funds 70% of a major repair, while the other still expects 50% of the sale proceeds. Without written rules for cash calls, voting, default, death, disability, buyout and exit,

Starting point is 01:09:42 they haven't bought flexibility, they've just bought a future argument with stamp duty attached. Then there's a company that can suit a genuine income retention, reinvestment or governance job. Bart extraction rules, division 7A, land tax and less favourable capital gains treatment can make it a poor default for a long-term growth property. And an SMSF must serve retirement, not rescue your personal borrowing capacity. Access restrictions, liquidity, concentration, related party rules, costs and the new restrictions on residential property borrowing all need specialised advice. So if your householders are already wearing property from head to toe, putting another leverage property inside Super isn't automatically

Starting point is 01:10:29 diversification. It may just be the same outfit with different buttons. And be very wary of the sales pitch that says that a fresh SPV trust creates unlimited buying capacity. A new trust name doesn't cause your income to reproduce overnight. Lenders can still examine the guarantees, liabilities, cash flow and control behind it. And just because a structure can be created doesn't mean you should buy through it. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually has a very attractive logo. So before contract, put every ownership option through the same A-check. annual tax, where losses sit, finance access and cost, land tax, asset protection, control and succession,

Starting point is 01:11:16 access to the money and the cost of changing or exiting later. Then get your account, lawyer, finance, and estate planning advice all around the same table at the same time because the cheapest structure to establish can become the most expensive structure to escape. So now the property has passed the interview. The finance has cleaned job descriptions, the sick leave funds qualified and the legal employer has been chosen before the contract. But free investors are still waiting outside the interview room, an accumulator looking for the next hire, an existing owner wondering whether to retain, to improve or to make some redundant, and a future converter who needs income without killing the growth engine too early. They shouldn't leave

Starting point is 01:12:04 for the same instructions. And the one who looks closest to retirement may need to make the least obvious move of all. And that obvious move may not be buying anything because three investors don't need the same property tip. They need three different decisions. So first in the room is the accumulator. Your job is to build enough high quality future equity without starving your life today or being forced to sell tomorrow. So your first action isn't to find a suburb is to establish your triple sealing, where ceiling one is the lender selling, what the lender will approve. Sealing two is the life sealing, the debt, the cash shortfall and time commitment that your household can hold through failure scenarios without sacrificing the life that you're investing

Starting point is 01:12:55 for. Sealing three is the property ceiling. The maximum price independent evidence of for that specific candidate, given its condition, income, land, microclimate location and future by depth. Your purchase ceiling is the last of the three. So if the lender says 900,000, your household says 790,000 and the property evidence says 810,000, your ceiling is 790,000. Not $900,000 with a hopeful spreadsheet and a nervous eye twitch, because bank approval isn't a shopping voucher. Then write a one-page hiring brief before you inspect everything. Give property one primary job,

Starting point is 01:13:41 short less know more than two suitable approaches, write down five non-negotiable disqualifiers, quantify the Conservative annual cash requirement and failure bill, and name the likely future buyer before the selling agent introduces you to the Kitson Island. If a candidate only works when rent, growth, interest rates, maintenance and your salary all behave, beautifully, you haven't found an investment, you've cast a property musical. So your immediate

Starting point is 01:14:07 action is simple. Don't open another listing app until that one page is complete. Now the second investor is the existing owner. You don't need another job interview, you need a performance review. And the key question is, if you didn't own this property today, would you use your current deployable equity to buy it now? And that's the equity. equity rehite test, not what did I pay, not how much has it grown, and not what the day television economists predict before breakfast. Ask what job your equity performs from today forward. Start with current supportable value, less debt, then estimate the capital you could actually redeploy after selling cost, tax were applicable and loan discharge. Then compare six real

Starting point is 01:14:56 options. Retain it as is, improve it, reconfigure it, or add legitimate income, refinance or restructure the debt, deliberately reduce the debt, or sell and redeploy. Compare each option on forward net income, likely future equity, cash required, risk, time, tax and usable exit proceeds. That last number matters because the sale price isn't your redundancy payout. Your redundancy payout is sale price, less selling costs, less less debt, less tax where applicable, less the buy cost of whatever replaces it. Only then can you compare the replacement job fairly. And remember, a property you wouldn't select from scratch may still deserve retention

Starting point is 01:15:45 because selling friction, existing tax treatment, improvement potential, or a strong for of microclimate location, changes the decision. And in the post-budget world, put the grandfathering value on the same page. grandfathering may strengthen the case to retain a good property, but it should be valued as one employment benefit, not mistaken, for a lifetime performance guarantee. Equally, history, loyalty, and the fact that you once paid it yourself, don't earn tenure.

Starting point is 01:16:16 Equity has no loyalty program, so don't sack a sound as sound long-serving employee just because a new recruit offers tax-deductible lunch. But equally, don't keep a serial underperformer. because you remember its first day at work. So your immediate action, book a two-hour property performance review without that rent, debt, value, cost, tax, condition and microclimate location evidence all on the table.

Starting point is 01:16:43 Now, the third investor is the future converter. You're not merely shopping for yield. You're designing and transition from growth-producing equity to reliable, usable, life-soule income. And the trap is converting too early, been discovering that your income assets can't keep pace for the life that you're meant to fund. So begin years before your break-free date and place every asset into one of three folders, marked Keep, Tune and Release.

Starting point is 01:17:12 In your Keep folder, place your strongest forward growth, scarcity, optionality and resilience. In your Tune folder, place assets where rent, use, management, finance, costs or debt can be improved. and in your release folder place assets consuming too much equity, cash, time or risk for their likely future contribution. Then measure income after the four bites, vacancy and operating costs, maintenance and capital reserve, debt service and tax. What remains is closer to lifestyle income. Gross rent is merely the first plate to arrive at the barbecue. It isn't the food that makes it onto your plate. And here's the move that often feels backwards.

Starting point is 01:17:58 Your best low-yielding growth property may deserve to stay while a higher-yielding, high-maintenance, weak-growth asset gets released. The goal isn't to maximise rent next Tuesday. It's to preserve enough growth, then progressively convert the right equity at the right time across the right structures to fund your life for decades. For some investors, that conversion will include progressively selling selected growth properties before and after the break-free date across separate financial

Starting point is 01:18:26 years where appropriate. Not because 30 June sprinkles magic tax dust, but because stage decisions may help manage cash needs, capital gains, other taxable income and reinvestment timing subject to the law and personal tax advice. Then the net proceeds after selling costs, debt and tax can be deliberately redeployed into higher yielding more divisified and often lower touch assets that progressfully. fund your lifestyle payroll. That's the wealth by stealth curve. Acumulate growth first, then convert enough equity into cash flow without retiring the remaining growth engine too early.

Starting point is 01:19:05 And we're going to devote a future property wealth episode to that full five-year-ish growth to income transition because it deserves more than a calculator and three enthusiastic garrows. But I want you to hear one short piece of personal proof right now. Back and Get Invested Episode 27, released way back in May 23, titled How to Make 200 grand in Passive Income from Property, P.K. Gupta and I discussed the point where Sonia and my own long accumulation journey began moving from capital growth to cash flow and what reaching our freedom number actually changed. So let's have a lesson for the clip from that now to refresh our memories. As I say, we've now shifted from what I call the capital growth, the capital growth, the

Starting point is 01:19:52 cash flow stage of the equation. So we've been transitioning some of our assets now into more cash flow vehicles as we as we continue to go. But the benefit of all that now is that, you know, what was it about? A bit over five or six years ago, we hit the magic financial freedom number. And I can't tell you. The 200K? Yep.

Starting point is 01:20:16 Yep. And that hasn't changed much, actually. That's more than enough to do what we need. to do. But once we've hit that point, just the, I can't put in words, the, I just got to weight lift it off our shoulders. And now we work because we want to work, not because we have to work. There's a massive difference in your outlook on life when you get to that stage. And having the freedom to put my energy into things that are really important to me is just, yeah, you just can't put a value on it. Yeah, you can't be what you can't see. And I think the value

Starting point is 01:20:51 and me hearing from your experience and perhaps the audience as well is that, you know, these types of numbers are possible. Like you've very articulately and accurately taken us on your journey hasn't been a journey of five years, hasn't been a journey of 10 years. It's been a long-term journey. Property investing is a long-term game. But when we see the carrot on the stick, you know, at the end of that journey, and it's not been an easy journey either.

Starting point is 01:21:21 has been ups and downs. You say you're a perpetual learner, but you got to the goal. And I think, you know, there's some people out there that perhaps don't have that patience and enthusiasm simultaneously for real estate to get a passive income,

Starting point is 01:21:37 like 100, 200K. But I think from your story, what I'm deducing and what I'm gleaning is that if you do have the patience and if you do have the enthusiasm to stick at it, I mean, you invested in the GFC or just after the GFC, when the Aussie dollar was at parity

Starting point is 01:21:53 with the US dollar and it was effectively like an FX play almost right? You're making as much on the FX play as you are on the properties but you were in like the point as you were investing you weren't like okay 2008 world shuts down 2009

Starting point is 01:22:07 what's going on 2009 Greek goes bankrupt, 2011 the European Union and all of these countries are like faltering and willter there's always something to say it's too much uncertainty you just carried on just plowed forward, you know, regardless, and I think that's something to take away.

Starting point is 01:22:25 And you got there, and that's very, yeah, that's really cool. That's really inspiration. Now, that clip isn't an invitation to copy our portfolio. It's evidence of the sequence. Design the life, quantify the gap, accumulate patiently, review honestly, then convert deliberately. Property was never the prize. The ability to choose how we use our time is the prize.

Starting point is 01:22:50 So your immediate action as a future converter isn't to sell anything. It's to write keep, tune and release across three pages, then make each asset apply for its page using forward evidence. So now our three investors have free instructions. The accumulator sets the triple ceiling and hiring brief. The existing owner runs the equity rehire test and six option review. and the future converter starts the Keep Tune Release Map. But we still haven't answered the question on the front door,

Starting point is 01:23:27 would I hire property now? And the final answer isn't yes or no, or the podcast favourite, it depends, it can be written in one sentence. And one word in that sentence separates patient opportunity from expensive optimism. And that word is, only.

Starting point is 01:23:48 So would I hire a property now? Yes, but only when today's conditions improve the terms of the right property without lowering the standards that made it right. That's the sentence and that's the biggest aha moment in this episode. Because falling prices don't make a weak property strong. Rising rents don't make gross income spendable. Tax advantages don't manufacture demand or scarcity. and a bank approval doesn't make the debt affordable for your life. But change conditions can give a prepared buyer more choice, more evidence, more inspection time, stronger contract terms and more negotiating leverage. That can make now a better hiring window without making every applicant more employable.

Starting point is 01:24:42 And here's the forward-looking T-Leaf insight. The best opportunity may appear before the headlines feel so. because when sentiment turns cheerful, the inspection queue can return, the vendor can rediscover their confidence and your negotiating leverage can disappear faster than free biscuits at an auction. But that isn't permission to predict the turn. It's permission to prepare for it. The patient investor doesn't wait for the media to issue a green light. You write your own greet line You write your own greenlight conditions before emotion arrives. That's the difference between being ready and being restless.

Starting point is 01:25:26 So here's your four-step property hiring card. Step one, define. Define the life, freedom gap, break-free date, and one primary job property needs to perform for you. If the job description says only, make me rich, send it back to HR. Step 2, diagnose. Put your shortlisted approach and specific property through gear set, sniff and Boshito, test the good version and the band version, the fit, the failure and the action. And compare it with your best alternative using the same capital, cash contributions, time, tax,

Starting point is 01:26:02 risk and usable net exit. Step 3, de-risk. Set the triple ceiling. Calculate the full annual holding requirement. Fund the failure bill and the watch. test. Use clean purpose-specific finance. Choose ownership before contract and identify the future exit buyer. If the property needs perfect weather to remain standing, it isn't de-risk. It's wearing sunscreen. Step four, decide. Hire only when the evidence passes your written standards, the cash flow passes your sleep test, the structure passes professional review and the property still serves the life that you're building. If it doesn't, say no. Not maybe, not, I'll make the numbers work, and not, but the bench top has waterfall stone. No. The prepared investor's greatest advantage

Starting point is 01:26:56 isn't the ability to buy. It's the ability to reject quickly, wait comfortably and act decisively when the right candidate finally walks in. That's why my property preference isn't blind loyalty. I'm agnostic about the investment vehicle, but I'm deeply comfortable with property because decades in architecture, project management, property management, finance and investing have taught me how to understand it, influence it, and often to manufacture value. That informed comfort helps me stay the course. Your comfort asset may be different because the purpose of this A for Approach series isn't to crown one universal winner.

Starting point is 01:27:34 It's to help you understand which asset vehicles deserve which jobs, in your freedom plan at what time. So across this A4 approach series, we've now built business, well, sorry, we've now put business, shares and equities and property for the same diagnosis. And in the weeks to come, we're going to add an added property deep drive

Starting point is 01:27:57 with a small development specialist, given the increased post-budget advantages of this approach, so make sure we don't miss that. And after that, alternative assets are the remaining applicant family. So think things like gold, private credit, crypto, collectibles, special funds, and a few investments wearing fake moustaches that still need to explain themselves. And when all of the main asset families have faced the same diagnosis,

Starting point is 01:28:24 will then look to release the complete investor wind vane so you can compare their legitimate jobs without pretending they're interchangeable. In the meantime, if these two episodes have helped you show what needs to be done, but you're not yet. How to put your complete property plan together, that's precisely why I've developed the full property wealth program. Together, they give you the decision logic. The program walks you around the complete property wealth clock

Starting point is 01:28:50 from your Y, freedom numbers, capacity and approach through finance, structure, selection, acquisition, holding, and ongoing review. You can explore it at bushymont.com.com. You can explore it forward slash wealth journey and the first module is free, so you can try before you buy. I'll put the direct link in the show notes, so check it out. And if you started today with part two,

Starting point is 01:29:15 make sure that you go back and listen to Part 1 in the last episode when Property First and the right to apply. And the show notes will also link you to the full How to Make 200 grand passive income from property episode that I enjoyed with P.K. Gupta, so you can have a listen to our complete personal journey. So as we come to close, here's your food for thought. Are you waiting for property conditions to feel safe? Or are you building

Starting point is 01:29:41 a decision process strong enough to act intelligently while they don't? Because uncertainty doesn't remove opportunity. It removes certainty. And they were never the same thing. And my quote of the week is this. The best time to hire property isn't when the headlines give you permission. it's when better terms meet unchanged standards. Property isn't bulletproof, broken or entitled to the job. But the right property, on the right terms, the right person, but the right finance, ownership, warship, war chest and exit can be a powerful employee in a life that you've designed by choice, not by default.

Starting point is 01:30:24 And that's why wealth isn't just what you own. It's the freedom to live how you choose, to live more, give more, grow more and become more. And as always, this is general information and education only. It isn't personal financial, credit, tax, legal or investment advice. So before you act, get independent advice that considers your objectives, your financial position, your needs and your circumstances. So thanks again for sharing your most precious commodity today, and that's your time.

Starting point is 01:30:53 If this episodes help you think differently, please follow, get invested, share it with someone who's currently interviewing or considering property and leave us an honest review. Then do the work, trust the process and hire property for the right job. Give it the right employment contract, the right resources and an evidence-based performance review, not a disciplinary hearing every time a headline clears its throat. Don't sack a great long-term employee with your property because the market had a grumpy Monday. and don't keep a serial underperformer because you've already paid for the uniform. Give time, leverage, scarcity, manufactured value and compounding the runway to earn their long service leave.

Starting point is 01:31:39 So keep the regime honest, the payroll affordable and your freedom goal in the CEO's chair. And as always, always get invested. Thanks for tuning in to get invested on the Property Hub podcast channel, your home for property investment insights and inspiration. Make sure you subscribe to Property Hub for free. Get your weekly dose of Get Investing Inspiration along with every episode of Realty Talk. Australia's top online property show

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