Property Hub - Investment Insights & Inspiration - Get Invested: 'The Frenchman On The Run' - Endurance, Elevation & Equity with Eddie Tchigique

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

What does it take to push beyond limits—physically, mentally, and financially? Today’s guest proves that the same grit that conquers mountains can also conquer the property game. In this powerful episode of Get Invested, Bushy Martin is joined once again by Eddie Tchigique—aka Eddie the Frenchman—an extreme endurance athlete whose upcoming mission is nothing short of monumental: a solo, record-breaking 3,900km run across Australia from Cottesloe Beach in WA to Bondi Beach in NSW. But Eddie’s story is about far more than athletic feats. It’s about building an unbreakable mindset—one forged through discomfort, discipline and sheer determination. Having previously climbed two of the world’s deadliest peaks—Aconcagua in Argentina and Denali in Alaska—Eddie knows what it takes to go the distance, and he’s here to show you how those same principles apply directly to your property investment journey. Together, Bushy and Eddie unpack the endurance mindset—why true, sustainable success (in property or life) comes not from shortcuts, but from consistency, resilience and the willingness to push through when every fibre of your being says quit. If you’re serious about building wealth through property and living by design, this conversation will inspire you to run your own race with unwavering resolve. Support Eddie's mission 👉 Help Eddie make history and support kids with cancer: head to frenchmanontherun.com and donate just $10 to Redkite. 🎧 Plus, don’t miss Eddie’s first appearance on episode 274 to hear his full property journey and what fuels his freedom. Find your Freedom Formula Success in property starts with your 'why', and then the 'what' and 'how'. Let me, Bushy Martin, lead you through it! Sign up for my Freedom Formula program. The first session is absolutely free, and it only takes around an hour! Find out more https://bushymartin.com.au/freedom-formula-course Subscribe to Property Hub for free now on your favourite podcast player. Take the next step - connect, engage and get more insights with the Property Hub community at linktr.ee/propertyhubau Book a personal solutions session with Bushy to go deeper on your specific property needs or challenges Continue the discussion with likeminded investors and experts on The Property Hub Collective Facebook group Get a copy of Bushy's book, Get Invested, for FREE, and find out what it takes for you to invest in living more, working less Get all Property Hub info here linktr.ee/propertyhubau About Get Invested, a Property Hub show Get Invested is the leading weekly podcast for Australians who want to learn how to unlock their full ‘self, health and wealth’ potential. Hosted by Bushy Martin, an award winning property investor, founder, author and media commentator who is recognised as one of Australia’s most trusted experts in property, investment and lifestyle, Get Invested reveals the secrets of the high performers who invest for success in every aspect of their lives and the world around them. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube to get every Get Invested episode each week for free. For business enquiries, email [e-mail] omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What's something that you think most people misunderstand about discomfort, Eddie? It's a necessary evil, unfortunately. So nobody likes it, right? I don't like it any more than anybody else, as much as it might sound like I'm a sadistic human being. I'm not, right? I'm definitely looking for comfort and that stuff,

but it is the only place where you can learn and evolve. You're not going to learn. You might learn a few things, but you're not going to. If you're uncomfortable, whether it's, you know, work life or otherwise, this is the place where you learn. All right. Because you won't want to go to that place again. And therefore, you're going to learn a lot to adapt to then when you're in that place again, it doesn't feel uncomfortable anymore. Yeah.

And that's the crux of it. There's no progression when you're comfortable. Welcome to Get Invested on the Property Hub podcast channel. the leading weekly show for Australians who want to learn how to unlock their full self, health and wealth potential. I'm your host, Bushy Martin, and each week I go deep with the best investors, experts, leaders and founders to find out what it takes to break free from the grind, discover freedom and to live by design. Subscribe now and join me and get invested in the life that you really want. Let's get started. Hi Freedom Fighters. Let me ask you this,

how far would you go to achieve your dreams? Would you run 3,900 kilometres right across this great country? Would you scale the highest, harshest peaks just to feel alive? Now, let's go even deeper. Would you endure freezing nights in a cramped tent, risk death on crevices and snow bridges, suffer through bleeding lungs, blistered feet, and still wake up with the will to keep going.

What if I told you that the same mindset that gets you up a mountain or across a desert plain is the same mindset that you're going to need to be hitting that financial summit of property success? Because here's the uncomfortable truth. Sustainable success in anything long-term, property included, isn't about quick hacks or shortcuts. it's about putting one foot in front of the other when everything in your body is screaming at you

to stop it's about endurance resilience patience and persistence and it's about becoming comfortable being very very uncomfortable and no one embodies that spirit more than our very special returning yesterday. Eddie Tjit, better known as Eddie the Frenchman, is preparing to do something only a handful of humans have ever even contemplated, to run from Cottesloe Beach in WA right across the country to Bondi Beach in New South Wales, attempting to set a new speed record. Now that is over 3,900 kilometres in blistering heat, relentless wind and brutal solitude. And this isn't the first taste of his physical extremity. Before that, he climbed two of the world's most dangerous peaks. We're talking about Argentina's Acongugua, and I bet you I've stuffed that up,

and I'm sure you'll pick me up on that in a minute, Eddie, and of course, Alaska's Denali. Two expeditions that tested every cell in his body as we're about to hear, and forged the mental steel he now brings to every and each challenge. So what does all this have to do with your property journey? A lot more than you think. Because whether you're climbing a summit or climbing out of debt, whether you're running across the country or running the long race of investing, the rules and rewards are exactly the same. Just as Eddie unpacked during his first appearance here on Getting Invested way back on episode 274 in April 2023. So if you haven't had a listen to that yet and really dug into his awesome property journey so far, make

sure you do it's a really great lesson but today we're going to unpack what it really takes to go the distance so let's dive in and welcome back and let's get invested again eddie yeah thanks for having me bishop mate uh i'd love what you're doing uh i'm in constant awe of the challenges that you set yourself and every aspect of your life and and your ability to follow through on that but uh i want to start right at the uh summit literally now when and i'd want you to take us back to that that very first spark of an idea you know the moment when a mate's mountain climbing videos change your life what what was it that gripped you so tightly at that stage yeah i was i was in australia actually i just happened to was i was watching the french news

and i saw a story on a guy that his nickname was the the mountain sweeper so essentially someone that was cleaning up the mountains as well as climbing them and then i saw the name and i and I was like, I know that guy, he's from my business school. So I was like, oh, that's obviously I was interested and more into the story, but the views were spectacular and he was completely out of breath at the top of that mountain and he was explaining what he was doing and that he was working, you know, obviously light climbing,

but he liked the environment as well. So he wanted to clean up all the trash that unfortunately lazy mountaineers just leave behind them. uh and so then i had a look at the the mountain which was a concagua in in argentina obviously i had never heard of the the thing um before yeah but anyway i contacted him straight away the same day and i was just amazed i was i was curious uh it just looked just so raw and hard and so unique and and just out of this world sort of experience and i was drawn to it straight away so so that that yeah that's how it all it all started so i had nothing to do i'm from the

southwest of france so we've got the pyrenees there so i used to go hiking with my parents but i never really climbed as such i was always connected to the mountain but it was more around skiing and snowboarding and that type of thing yeah but yeah this was this was uh this was different he really he really drew me in uh in his in his own experience with it yeah love that Now, most people, if they got excited about that, would do some small hills to kick it off. But that wasn't you. You went straight for Akin Aguilar, which is nearly 7,000 metres high,

I understand. Why the big leap? And what did that climb actually teach you about yourself? Yes. So he always wanted to climb Mount Everest. That was his aim. He always wanted to do an 8,000 metre peak. and obviously you've got to start somewhere

and so we started talking about Everest and I started watching all the docos I could put my hand on and I was starting to read about them and it just absolutely fascinated me. I just became so drawn to it and I don't know if you've ever seen that picture. There's a cartoon picture of a switch,

like a light switch and it's either utterly obsessed or uninterested and there's nothing in the middle So you're either one or the other and, and that very much defines who I am. So I got absolutely obsessed with, with Everest and, and obviously it was sort of straddle. I mean, it was on my map. It was definitely something I was interested in, but you cannot just start with Everest.

So I needed to start somewhere that, um, friend of mine had climbed Aconcagua. So it was a pretty logical step for me. So Aconcagua is, is, is high, obviously it's high altitude, but it's not technically hard so it's a it's more or less a high altitude hike i guess you know there's a bit of snow and ice but it's not technically you don't have to be a don't have to be you don't have to have much experience it's hard in terms of the endurance and the altitude and that covers some of it but that that's why i decided to go for it so that that was gonna be my first high altitude experience and i was going to see how you know pan out and and first first

expedition experience i guess yeah so i discovered a lot about expedition uh you know on a big mountain like this and and a lot of it is not really shown in the brochures and uh so i i can color some of it if you want yeah yeah please because i'm in a climb yeah please because i Even some of the little things, I know that a lot of people wouldn't appreciate how different life is at a different altitude. As soon as you get at a high altitude, everything changes. So talk us through that. Put us in your shoes as you're tackling this,

because I don't think many people really understand the intimacies of what you're contending with. No, 100%. And I didn't. I mean, you can watch some docos and that, but it's just nothing can prepare you for it. So, and look, basic things like water, you know, there's no tap. You can't, you can't turn the tap on and you get water you can drink.

So everything's about melting water, which takes, the higher you go, the more time it takes. So it's, you know, you've got to collect the snow or ice and then you've got to melt it and it just takes forever, right? It's on top of all the other tasks you've got to do. So as much as we don't see it as a luxury, you know, in our home or daily life, it really on the mountain in terms of you talked about the altitude you know the acclimatization so you can't just climb up so you can't just get to base camp and then climb up to camp one two and three and

then summit and then come back the that trip itself took three weeks of you know you just so essentially you're acclimatized which is you climb a high and then you sleep low and then you climb high and then you sleep there and then you come higher and so on and so forth so you're going in steps i guess and what that does is it pushes the body to create more red blood cells which essentially you you you make better use of the the oxygen you have because the higher you go the less oxygen there is and it's not so much there's the same amount of oxygen that the molecules because of the pressure they further apart so it feels like there's less oxygen so so you got to get your body to acclimatize to this and to give you an example at high camp we were measuring our

oxygen saturation to see how we were acclimatizing as we went and at high camp my oxygen saturation was in the low 80s so at sea level you'd go straight to the er and you'd get you'd get treated pretty quickly whereas whereas you know at high camp it's kind of pretty good yeah so so it's interesting how the body adapts to this um altitude just makes everything a nightmare right from i mean when you get higher up just getting dressed you just just oh god i gotta put my pants on and everything's just out of breath all the time it's uh you know you get bad headaches it's uh it's frustrating it's not there's no it's not nice you don't see that it's even in the videos i haven't seen a single video where someone talks about how you feel when you go higher up you know

your appetite goes everything's just hard and and when everything's hard you know the body sort of shuts down bits and pieces i just concentrate on um keeping your life i suppose um the toilet toilet situation is a pain in the butt um literally speak yeah you know yeah i mean on a concagua you just gotta find the biggest boulder you can find and get behind it and you you have feces everywhere it's just it's not there's nothing nice about it um the weather obviously the weather you know because you are in the mountain pretty high up it just changes very quickly and and the the most important thing when you climb is read the wind and how you know because the wind chip can make or break a climb i guess yeah and so and the temperature fluctuations are absolutely incredible

as well it can be very cold one day like it's always cold but sometimes it feels hot which is just because of the sun reflection on the snow and and so on and so forth so it could be minus five or minus you know even ten but you can you can feel seriously hot and you have to strip off and then but then you obviously gets very cold as well so that's that's pretty hard to to deal with um now other contact where i got quite sick high up and i you know in in hindsight i definitely was getting altitude sickness and it could have been it could have got worse i guess we stayed at high camp for 48 hours because of the weather so i couldn't eat i couldn't sleep i couldn't really drink i was just a terrible headache uh the summit push was an absolute

slug of a thing obviously i had a you know i wanted to get up there so i did it uh coming down was a nightmare we got lost on the way down everyone was tired and it's interesting because this is the first time where obviously i pushed i pushed i pushed i went i got to the summit and then the excitement sort of goes away as you go down and the and the tiredness and the fatigue really kicks in and and all i could think of was i just want to sit down for a little bit and close my eyes for you know for just a few minutes but that's that's what that's a dislike so there's a dislike right there that's about 10 years exactly right yeah yeah exactly right so anyway we got um we got there in the end look it it just what it taught me is i could see that well first of all

and enjoyed it like there's a bit of love hate relationship but enjoyed it overall like as in the elation of having gone through that challenge and all these difficulties was just out of this world for me and i and i saw that i could deal with the harshness of climbing and i could acclimatize somewhat to high altitude and i was okay out there despite obviously the issues that i've had and i couldn't endure the pain and i could suffer and i was okay with it and it's not something that i knew about myself and and back and at that point i understood that this game was for me so not necessarily climbing yeah i mean at the time he was climbing but but the the game of going through pain and being okay with it because you know it's gonna end at some point so so you

It's very different, and we'll talk about this with the charity that I'm backing up. It's very different to being in pain because you're sick and it's not your choice and you don't have the end of the tunnel. On the climb, as much as some of them are pretty long, in three weeks' time, hopefully you would have have summited and you'd be eating a big steak in Mendoza in Argentina. I mean, so that changes the picture. So, yeah, that first climb was eye-opening, and it was just the best experience, really.

Yeah, I mean, you're very humble by nature, and I understand you're saying it's very different from someone who's got a terminal illness, for example, and they know that the end's coming. But it's still life-threatening, because you are putting your life on the line. There's no two ways about it. There's a lot of people who die on the – you described it as a big hike. Well, I don't think a lot of other people would see it as a big hike, Eddie. And I know just as a mere mortal who's never really put myself to that level of risk, I remember years ago where we were in the States and we went skiing near Denver up at Beaver Creek. Now, I had flu.

I had flu at the bottom of which I didn't even think about. By the time I got to Beaver Creek, I felt like a 90-year-old. I couldn't breathe. I was on an oxygen tent for four days because I just couldn't get around. And I couldn't believe what was going on in my head. And that's not even a scratch on what you put yourself through. Again, this mightn't be a good analogy, but what surprises me about this whole exercise, you put yourself through that pain, you prove to yourself that you can do it and i think there's a level of self-confidence that comes out of that and a different approach to life that emerges once once you survive through those challenges

so i'd sort of conceive where that goes but now that you know i'm not a female and will never give birth but uh you know i see a lot of women who put themselves through extreme pain and and challenges giving birth and then you'd think i'd never want to do it again but a few months later they're saying, I want another child. So there must be something in the human psyche that allows us to challenge ourselves to go through that and go, right, I've done that, I've proved that. Yes, yes, there was a lot of challenge with it,

but now I want to go on and do that again. Something I'd like to circle around, you know, you've talked about those extremes from sort of boiling hot to minus 40, which must be absolutely brutal as a consequence. How do you actually mentally prepare yourself for being so constantly uncomfortable? Unfortunately or fortunately, I don't know how you look at it, but us human beings, we're very good at forgetting the hard stuff

and keeping most of the good stuff. So even after you come back from a climb and within a few weeks, you've probably forgotten a lot of the really painful and annoying things and and you're probably looking at the next pick you can sign up for um which is which is good i guess but it's impossible to replicate the extremes right so what you can do obviously is prepare yourself physically i think the most important thing and that goes with everything in life is is the why right have a big enough why and mine was getting ready to tackle an 8 000 meter Whether it was Everest or some peaks in Pakistan or something like that.

That was my big why and I had some steps. So I had a process to go through that I wanted to take, I guess, to make sure that I was ready. Because I've got a family and I'm not a daredevil as such. Do you see what I mean? I'm happy to push myself, but I want it to be as safe as possible, I guess. yeah and so and and quite honestly without that big why being from me being climbing everest one day i would have thrown the towel or anyone would throw the towel and you'd never go back because the thing is at least 90 of it is just brutal yeah it's not enjoyable let's let's face

it there's there's enjoyment in the pain but that's in hindsight when you're in it there's just nothing enjoyable about it all right when you get up and it's freezing cold and you cold for 50 minutes and you cannot have a warm shower to warm you up there's nothing to warm you up all right the only thing that's going to warm you up is you moving so putting some layers on and you're moving there's nothing else so and so the other thing to get ready for this is i mean you gotta you gotta seek some discomfort in your life right there's too many comforts i mean i was thinking about so i've got a i've got a car where it's you know it's on a nap in my phone and in the morning when it's cold whether i'm with the kids or not you know i set the climate control so that

it's ready when i get in right and i but i know i know that this is comfort that makes me weak in a way right so i know i have to have things in my life that counter this because if everything that i do is creating comfort for myself and making things easier you slowly drift and drift and drift and then whenever there's something that's hard and things will happen in your life you know whether it's work or some work issues or family or health or whatever then you won't know how to deal with it and so so how do i prepare with it again physically and mentally in terms of you know little discomfort or pushing yourself in in different areas of your life that's that's probably the the best way you you can do it yeah i love it i love the fact that you

continue to challenge yourself because i didn't when we spoke on the podcast last time uh you spoke uh in depth about the the biggest threat to great is is good and and let's face it uh australians i i think without realizing it we we've probably got the best lifestyle of most parts of the globe and we take that for granted so because we're so comfortable uh and get used to being comfortable uh a lot of us don't don't challenge ourselves or test the edges and then then wonder why we don't sort of achieve the things that that we would like to uh something else i'd love you to to comment on because uh you know in preparing for our chat today yeah and going through your story i know that you you witnessed death on the mountain you know that's a

That's a very powerful and very confronting moment, I'm sure. Yeah. Tell us a bit more about that and what changed for you after that experience, if anything. Yeah, it was very confronting. So that was on the Conquergois. That was pretty early on in the expedition. We were going from Camp 1 to Camp 2,

and it was like a slope with, like, loose rocks and that. and um and we saw a guy got got hit by uh by a falling rock and um and unfortunately had a while we learned after where you had a punctured lung and you had a internal bleeding and so we tried to there was a team of argentinian military at the time on the mountain so they they just happened to be climbing the same route at the same spot and so they helped him out we we helped out and they brought him back to base camp we kept you know climbing like acclimatizing and when we came back to base camp probably three hours later we learned like it passed away and that was strange it was surreal because it's not like the ocean like the ocean moves so you can

see the waves you can see the danger do you see what i mean whereas the mountain is it's still you you don't see it it's there obviously they can have you know avalanches or i mean this was just a rock falling from higher up and within us enough momentum to kill someone he was he was um so that guy was the american we learned afterwards and he was just in wrong place wrong time right that's what it is wrong place wrong time he didn't do anything wrong he just you know i mean yeah and so anyway it was you know my first thought you he was there climbing alone as well so he didn't have any partner or anything and and so he was thousands of k's from his loved ones when he took his last breath and and so as much as he had all these guys

trying to help him he would have been he would have been such um i mean i don't know he was a he was an a rescue paramedic i think so he he knew i think he knew what was going on but you never completely know so you know he wasn't aware he wasn't you know probably in a good shape and he was pretty dire but yeah he would have been his last moments would have been like it's just sad just thinking about it so straight away i thought about his his family and that because at the time when i when i heard about his death you know i knew that that they didn't know obviously and they just thought he was climbing and hopefully he was having a good time so so anyway very strange the scoots were good the story around this is

interesting so i was um i obviously i came back to australia after the climb and and i was just on some climbing forums and and i was probably a good six months after the climb and and i saw a a question from someone asking for some info on an American guy that had died on the mountain around the time that we were there and I was like, oh, I'll check the dates and, and essentially she wanted some detail because she had very little detail from the Argentinian governor and she couldn't get, she didn't get any of his belongings, belongings back and anything. So she just wanted some info on what's, what, what had happened.

Yeah. And I was like, no way. that's you know same i mean it was just one in a million sort of thing anyway i contacted her and i sent her the pictures that i that i had taken and i explained to her what's happened and and this and the other and then she uh she was climbing again after a concagua was planning on going to alaska in fact uh the year after and she said oh do you mind if i send you some of the ashes some of his ashes so you can spray it on spray it on the you know in alaska and i said that's fine and and unfortunately i they never got to me because i um i stuffed up the street

number for my work address and anyway so i had and then you can imagine what state i was when i realized the the mistake that i had made so i had you know i told her and she was fine with it she said oh he will love that he will travel around the world and you know go to different places he loved it so but anyway you're very very confronting it just um it it puts you back on earth you know these types of things really put you back on earth you're a fragile uh human being on a big big mountain in a very harsh environment where you probably don't belong yeah and incredible and and on another it's it's really good that you managed to connect with his partner because i can't even imagine what it must be like for the part of the family because uh you know that they

know that he was taking a risk he knew he was taking a risk and everyone who who sets out on this sort of an adventure knows that there's big risk attached but but then being left in the dark and getting very little information a sense of closure that you've probably given her as a result of sharing what he did it's probably meant a lot a lot more to her than you you probably realize oh probably yeah especially that i was pretty young you know i didn't i didn't fully realize i guess i you know i'm a bit more mature now and i i fully realized i guess yeah to your point the impact that that would have had whereas at the past i was you know i was just giving her a story and some pictures yeah yeah amazing mate amazing now where i know that uh uh you know your next

climb was Denali and you know from every everything I've heard that sounds like next level hardship as far as the comparison so what was the hardest single moment on that climb and and how did you manage to push it push your way through yeah look to put some context Denali so Denali is in Alaska it's very close to the Arctic Circle and therefore the the weather is just known to be to being just ferocious yeah and and so the the other thing the vertical gain and i didn't know that at the time but the vertical gain between base camp and the top is the largest on any mountain on earth which means that you know the amount of vertical you need to climb between base camp and and the summit is yeah the largest of any mountain on earth so so obviously that that

adds to them just adds to the time really of the expedition more than anything um it's all snow and ice so it's highly crevassed you know there's a big big glacier you're going to travel um through obviously there's there's a lot of snow so they were avalanches daily um not necessarily on the road but you know you could hear and you can hear them and they just the the yeah you can hear the rumble and then you look and there's a massive prune of snow coming down anyway just just reminds you of where you are because sometimes you get complacent with things you know again because everything's still around you and you do you can get complacent because of it yeah the access to denarii is very peculiar as well so typically you drive and then you hike and

denarii you got to fly onto the glacier so so you fly out of a small town in alaska called uh talkeetna which is it's a funny mix of uh there's a tourist train so when you do a cruise in alaska a lot of the time you get a train that goes to talkeetna and that's a stop for tourists so it's a weird mix of tourists um and and climbers and it's just yeah very interesting but anyway so you fly into you fly into the glacier and the pilot told us that there's a big sharp turn while going down to uh land on the glacier and he said oh there's going to be all sorts of alarms going off so don't be too worried but we went around that peak and all of them i'm not kidding so you've got like uh ear muffs because you can't hear anything in there so

you hear what the pilot's saying and stuff like that and and anyway so and he goes around that outcrop and then he turns like sharp turn right as he goes down to land onto base camp everything just goes like beep beep beep terrain terrain and you're like jesus what's going on here anyway eventually you land on on the glacier which is just the whole experience i mean it it's really it paints the color of the expedition that you've signed up for it really does yeah um and and then you realize when you're at base camp you realize that because they can't fly in bad weather so you do realize you're stuck there unless the weather is clear enough for the plane to come back and and get you so that and that that just adds another element i guess which is

completely out of your control in terms of the hardest thing on on that climb i've got three that really uh stick to mind so we were trapped so there's a big glacier from i mean pretty much throughout the mountain we're really between baska and kent um one or even two that there's a big big glacier and there's some big crevasses in there now what happens a lot of the time there's snow bridges which is essentially picture a crevasse which is essentially a crack in the ice if you like and some of them can be pretty wide and can be very deep as well and when it snows it snows snow snows and then it accumulates enough to create a bridge so essentially it covers the crevasse right sometimes so you you think you're walking on fair and snow but in fact you're walking across

a crevasse so sometimes the snow is hard enough and you don't even know and you've you've done it and you never know you've walked across a crevasse uh and and sometimes they don't so anyway we're traveling from base camp to camp one we're having a break so we all wrapped up by the way so typically you've got a backpack and you're putting a sled as well because you've got to carry all your equipment and so the guy in the sled in front of me is roped to me and then my sled and i'm roped to my sled and my sled is roped to the guy behind me and so that's you know you've got four or five climbers like this and what that does if if anyone falls into a crevasse you've got another four guys that can't stop the fall or they all go with you well that's that was that was my thought the whole

time i was that guy's big anyway so we were having a break between uh yeah base camp and camp one i sat down on my sled and as i got up i i was just i went straight through the snow up to my my hips and so my legs were dangling and so i i quickly went forward so my belly was on on you know belly arms and torso was on the snow and i anyway i got myself out of that uh i didn't go all the way through which was good but that definitely uh got my heart pumping and and again it just it reminds you you know these these small reminders so so that that was um one of them um the second one look the toilet situation was no better on on denari the only difference between denarii and akon kagawa is the park rangers give you a bucket so picture uh um you know the bucket

you use to wash your floors for instance no bigger than that yeah and everyone needs to do their thing in that one bucket right that is one bucket for the for the group and and you know you put a um a bag in there and then you obviously dispose of the bag the bucket is your toilet so uh unfortunately during the night i needed to to go and it was snowing horizontally outside you could hear the wind flapping on the tent and anyway you know what can you do so i i got out and and i i you know i went so the bucket there's a there's a cover on top of the bucket and i i took the cover off and it was just horrible i had my pants you know on my ankle the snow was just smashing my legs and and it was just the worst situation on the

and i sat on the on the bucket and i could forgive me for saying this but you know it's part of the experience but i could feel the warmth of the last persons um um going on you know going to the the toilet essentially so um so there you go so i was sitting there feeling the warmth of the last person and having snow coming horizontally on my face and legs so that was uh that was an experience that's unbelievable man no and uh and the the third thing is again it's one thing i didn't know so you wake up in the morning in your tank everything's frozen solid right your socks your pants everything and you know you're gonna have to put that on as well you can't just wait for it to defrost so just deal with it yeah my water bottle in fact one night was

so i had my water bottle in my sleeping bag so my minus 40 degree sleeping bag and the water bottle was against my skin and was the water was frozen in it so everything literally freezes in there unfortunately as soon as the sun comes up it it warms up the tent pretty quickly and all the frozen condensation then starts dripping on you so like a sauna you yeah exactly yeah so uh yeah not not the nicest of experience but uh but yeah in terms of the the hardest thing that you know those three things were really it's a daily thing right it's not just a one-off and and yeah again everything's hard now how did i push through look at the thing is i knew i wasn't going on a beach holiday in the caribbean so i knew what i was up for you know to some extent

again you forget a lot of the the hardship but you you know it's going to be hard and you're going to have to push it and you know i was carrying i had 25 kilos in my backpack and 30 kilos on the sled that i was putting now the whenever the slope was in because it's not always straight well sometimes there's a there's a camber on the slope and sometimes the the sled would um um yeah exactly yeah so then it was you know all of a sudden it felt harder to pull and yeah fair enough the sled was upside down and you know and all this you know you do this 50 times a day right so you stop you have to put back and and so um so yeah it was hard the days were long the oxygen was you know again the altitude was tricky it was cold we had winds and then it was

hot and then you had headaches and you always start the day cold like like i said for a concagua and and you know you'll feel that way until you start moving so it's you know nothing else will warm you up you will have to warm yourself up and and so um that was hard but again my my why is the reason i succeeded once more right i knew i was there nobody put a gun to my head and said sign up to this and off you go yeah and and to be honest with you i i i over many i've been doing endurance stuff for the best part of 20 years probably now so i thrive in these environments and and the harder the better it just gives me even more of a sense of of achievement and same thing when i go for a run obviously i you know if i go for multi days it's a bit of a different

story but if you if i go out to then it's it's windy and hating and i'll feel more alive than in any other condition so so i really like that yeah those conditions yeah yeah but but again and bear in mind that my preparation for for the rally was like learning from my concagua was even more pointy and i was i was fit i was fit and i had a an exceptional climb i was strong the whole time and that that's really that's really showed yeah but i knew i could push for a long time as well you know you draw from the experiences as well of course of course yeah you better mentally prepared now you know from from what you share with us from you know the crampons to crevices to to pee bottles there's absolutely no glamour in any of that uh how do you balance the you know

the real raw gritty reality what you're going through where uh with your ongoing love for to keep doing it does it come back to that why or is there more to it oh definitely yeah i mean the why is to me it's the the crux of it all right uh otherwise you wouldn't do it i think i mean it's a love-hate relationship i you know i'm no i might be a bit different from you know some other people but realistically i'm still a human being and i'm still looking for um and i'm aware of it so i put things in place but i'm still looking for the shortcuts i'm still looking for the easy thing i'm still you know like the car heating up the car for that's a great example you know i want that comfort i don't want to get in a car and be cold for five minutes

so so i'm still i'm still very much like this but but look it's those things are better in hindsight that during uh you know it's not i did the most on trail in south australia with my dad on the bike and you know we had some very big days and that was hard and but now that i look back and this was the best experience on the planet yeah you know the money and these things typically yeah doing something like that with your father and i don't know how old your father is but you know again i followed that on on your socials uh that wasn't an easy ride no he's 72 and i pushed him pretty hard too uh i'm sure you did exceptionally well yeah and then what what an awesome bonnie experience that's something you'll both remember for the rest of your lives

i think it's a lot in that because you you personally tell you something when you do it with with someone whose family and and others that there's there's a uh a bond there that uh have a lay view in that regard uh yeah but we're talking i guess this um he's uh he impressed me like i i drew a lot of things from that like he's 70 i think he was 72 yeah and and i pushed him hard yeah i didn't i didn't uh pushed him like he was 72 i pushed him really hard and it just blew my mind right but but you know these things these things they're they're challenging that's why you're there that's why you sign up to these things you don't you don't sign up because it's going to be easy so on the bigger mountains and you see that on everest now there's there's some

um uh commercial outfitter that now have like big tents and heated tents and tvs and couches and even beds at bed camp at the base camp and you know i just want none of this because that's not the that's not the point the point is to be there for a few weeks or a few months and and be you know be in a harsh environment and be pushed that's that's the whole point of it yeah i think you know once more we really were equipped in forgetting the hard stuff yeah and so that really helps into signing up for the next thing or you know having the next kid like you said for um for for women yeah and so but yeah you know but you gotta have the main goal that's that's how you do it because again it's um you know there's yeah when you eat there's nothing enjoyable

yeah spot on sorry i shouldn't say there's nothing enjoyable it is enjoyable but you know what i mean like 90 of it realistically you could eliminate yeah they're totally what 100 there's not not a lot of fun in any of that uh let's fast forward to now then because you're about to run across the country and again challenge yourself way beyond what uh near mortars will do but why why this and why now eddie yeah that's a good question um i don't know what else would i be doing now look i've been running long for so running came from climbing right i needed to get ready and therefore you know i live in adelaide in south australia i mean we've got the ideas but we don't really have mountains and even if i was going to victoria it's not

it's not really quite up there so running really kept me fit and ready for those big expeditions yeah and and so and so i've been running for the best part of 18 years you know i've covered anything from 12k's to over 200k's in one go so multi-days is another challenge though it's the next step for me and and that's really something that i you know and again i thrive on these challenges now my wife is from jamestown which is in the mid north of south australia and Ned Brockman, who crossed Australia back in 2023, did go probably 40 minutes south of Jamestown. So someone from Jamestown actually told me that,

and I didn't know who he was, I didn't know what he was doing at the time, and told me Ned Brockman's crossing Australia, he's coming through Sporting, is the town that he was going through at the time. And I thought, oh yeah, that's nice. And I didn't think much of it. But subconsciously, I think a seed was planted that he was a young guy

and he was fairly new to running. And, you know, it is something that he's, I don't know, it was not even on my radar. It was probably too big, too big a thing for me to contemplate at the time. But, well, obviously, it's feasible. Anyway, it took me two years to find the courage to tell Tash, my wife, of my new plan. and um i don't think she was that surprised because there's a few things going going through

my head that um that she's aware of so anyway all the you know i know all the stuff i've done over 18 years um also you have have tested me and just feel like this is the next logical step for me so so that that's why yeah yeah and and what i love about what you've just shared because you're a couple in a family uh no one achieves any sustainable success in anything without being part of a team uh i i have immense respect for you and your ability to continually challenge yourself but i also have immense respect for tash in that she knows who you are and she knows that if you didn't do this stuff then uh that would impact on you and that would also impact on your relationship so to have the the awareness to go well eddie needs to do this i need to support

him but do it in such a way that as a team and as a family uh it's a good thing rather than uh you're being selfish you're only worrying about yourself and what happens to us a lot a lot of other people wouldn't wouldn't embrace uh this exercise in the same way that you and tash and the family have so i think there's uh you know you would have heard me say before already that that success is a team sport there's no question about it and and to have that level of of support and everything that she's doing in behind the scenes to make that i have immense respect and admiration for both of you so i wanted to put that on the record but um look at circling back to the the property space because you know at the end of the day that's that's the uh thing that

we've all got our head in and you know in property investing i've often said that you make your money in the preparation and then in the patience and persistence not in the actual property purchase which everyone tends to focus on tell us a bit about how you're preparing for the run both physically and mentally for this upcoming record attempt yeah yeah okay i think it is exactly the same in andrew and sports in fact it's exactly the same in a lot of different areas you know whatever you set yourself to do or to achieve you know it's no different to investing in fact as you know tash and i invest and and we've got the exact same approach in terms of you know the education the team and and and having a big why that's we that we're working towards and that's

our north star i guess in terms of the the run itself look it takes typically takes years for the body to adapt all right our bodies are extremely smart at adapting to anything and everything yeah but it takes time for the body to properly adapt and in terms of you know your tendons and tissues to take the load that you're expecting them to take and your cartilage hardens up as well so everything and you're obviously your heart and lungs and just overall system And everything adapts, which is, you know, it takes a huge amount of time. And it doesn't mean you're not going to break, but it means you've got less or you've got more ability to take on the load. This run is all about inflammation management.

And what I mean by that is when, even when we walk or run or, you know, just normal distances, your body, you've got inflammation in your body. that's how it works because your tendon rubs and so and so forth and and but typically then you stop that morning and then you do your life and then you go to sleep then you you might do another session the next day but by the time you get to the other session your inflammation level have come back to base yeah so on the run like running across australia where i now have to do around 113 k's a day that is a huge amount of inflammation that needs to be dealt with and managed yeah so that it doesn't go in overdrive you know too quickly i guess it will at some point i think i don't think you can get away unscathed but yeah you know so you're trying

to manage that so the these two things the mindset obviously and and uh you know you got to adapt your brain mindset to um i guess get into that it's going to be a tough environment it's going to be uh stressful it's going to be you're going to be fatigued and that's going to go for a long time so it's not just it's not a one race anymore where you know maximum 48 hours and your home shower in bed and and so you gotta you gotta um get your mind ready for that and to process that that pain day after day after day yeah the thing is i've got i've got an 18 month training program with a coach in terms of strength and conditioning and running and that starts in january it's going to go up to the start in august yeah but i always say i've got

it's a i've been getting ready for the last 18 years for this thing without knowing it but yeah And the 18-month is just to tweak the machine a little bit more to be ready for it. So obviously, physically, there's a lot of run volume. There are tests in all this. So in two weeks, I'm doing 300Ks in three days, so 100K a day for three days in the Mid-North. So it's windy, boring, and it's beautiful,

but for 10 minutes, not for hours on end. and obviously a strength and conditioning is a big thing in terms of visualization is in terms of the mind visualization is a big thing and i'm working on this in terms of um you know things will go wrong the body will send you signals that typically you would slow down or stop for that session and then rest for that day and then try again the next day and see how it is you see what i mean whereas yeah this is um this is a world record so there's no stopping you know the case that i need to achieve daily are the case that i need to achieve daily yeah walking running crawling however it's done and therefore just trying to visualize how you mentally going to

deal with because you will know straight away that something's not right and it's not just something's not right as in you've got a little pain maybe something's not right i've had enough niggles in the past that i i'm not a doctor obviously but i kind of know pretty quickly what it is and what's happening and and it's having the mental ability to not eclipse it but not let me um slow down impact me because you know my first thought will be how is that ever going to get better because tomorrow i'm doing another 113ks and then the day after and so and so forth but the thing is the body the body does some amazing things that are medically that there's no medical logic sometimes to how the body behaves yeah and so i gotta start thinking

like this and i gotta grab this thought every time there's something so it's all about um mindset is huge in these things right physically we can do a lot more than we think we can but the mindset is in a lot of areas in life you know whether it's investing or work or life or running yeah your mindset is can make or break you you 100 and i think that you know that just listening to you then having the self-belief in your body's ability to adapt and adjust and and self-heal in the middle of pain is something that in our current medical world where we're popping a pill for just about everything uh a lot of people don't get their head around so so getting your mind in that zone that goes okay i'm going to be okay because because my body's going to adapt

it's just it's going to do what it needs to do i just need to keep keep going uh pretty incredible uh you know and you sort of touched on the fact that you know physically there's no no question it's going to be really hard but but you'll be okay mentally uh is where the real battle will come uh can you sort of uh give us a a bit of it from a an investor's perspective uh what can we learn and apply from that to what we're doing particularly in the property space yeah it's interesting the the way we built it it's all about self-preservation right so from the from the era where we were in caves

it was all about preserving our energy because we didn't know whether we were going to have dinner that night or whatever it was and unfortunately we kept this in us and therefore the mind will stop you well before the body actually starts

breaking down and the mind is even going to send you little signals that it doesn't mean your body is starting to break down it just means oh you know we're getting to the limit here so i'll send you a signal so that naturally you you will stop yeah because that's how we're wired now so our mind protects us you know from the dangers from the perceived risks and and fears and so on and so forth and so fears and risks

will be the main thing that your mind direct you to it'd be the first thing right so for example If you tell me you should put your money in real estate and I've got no education or no knowledge of real estate, my first thought is going to be, what are the dangers of me getting into real estate? Okay, I might lose my money. I'm going to have debt and debt is bad. I've always learned that, right? I've always heard that. Sorry. And so on and so forth.

So it's exactly the same. obviously whatever's in running or climbing whatever is exactly the same investing exactly the same in in everyday life yeah and so it's a matter of being very conscious of how your mind works and that is going to try its hardest to stop you and find the the dangers i guess to protect you and so i know i use my experience to tell my mind to bugger off or i've got techniques techniques to derail these thoughts and and so but you know i know a lot of the days will be for instance terrible it'll be you know it'll be dark everything will be falling apart and at that point i'll have my crew so in i'm still forming it but um tash my wife will be part of it and she's known me for 21

years now so she knows me very very well yeah and so and so it's it's always going to be just one more step one more step and then why are you doing it all right so there's this and i've come back to the investing in a second there's two things for me in in my why just to explain what's going to drive me when things get really tough and they're going to get tougher than i've ever experienced i've got no doubt about that yeah and so obviously the mission is deep in my heart when i get to bondi beach it'd be the result of a huge amount of work all right and and something and something that um arguably i can easily fail at right i've signed up for many races over my my years and in fact i could sign up for a 200k race tomorrow and i and i know

i feel in my body that i will finish it all right whereas this mission here it's got a just because of the distance it's got a high failure uh percentage to it yeah whether whether i want it you know i want to admit it or not it's not me being defeatist it's just it's the reality of it because of the the length of it yeah and the second thing is i'm um i'm backing up RedKai, which is a, an association that does absolute wonderful work for parents who, um, whose kids are going through cancer. Sorry. I get, uh, I get pretty emotional every time I just think of my kids. Of course. And, um, and that will help me because i've i've listened to enough stories of these parents to know that my suffering

is first of all self-inflicted and second of all as i said earlier in uh in this podcast it will stop at some point whereas they don't know you know they're still in the dark um i cannot even fathom what they're going through and how their life is just and unfortunately a lot of them they still have bills to pay and life keeps going because they're all the time they've got other kids as well and these other kids are being impacted and so anyway so red kite um red kite and the work that they do and the money that i'm trying to raise for them to make a difference to a lot of families is i know it will um it will drive me very hard when when things get pretty dark for me yeah so all of these just to go back to the

the investing piece you know you've got to educate yourself so i've i have um i've talked to a lot of people that have done the crossing themselves i've read a lot of books of other people that have crossed canada or the us so i'm learning a lot to make sure that i know as much as i can yeah and therefore make a better decision so you know learn from other people's mistakes and stuff like that um obviously i get all the facts um and without investing we've built a team and that team because you cannot know everything about everything and and that team you know you can bounce ideas with they can guide you with their own experience and and but you know at the of the day you have to push through your you know with conviction and you have to let go of the

fears and and uh you know your mind trying to stop you and protect you and the only way you can do that once more is knowing enough to be comfortable with it and having a big enough why and that big enough why is you know i mean for us it's a lifestyle what we want to do with our life Well, I might, and thanks for sharing that. I agree with you. There are families for no good reason who are struggling with life-challenging events for their kids and others that, you know, they neither deserve nor understand. So I love the fact that you are working hard for them to do that and I encourage everyone who's listening to donate to that extremely beneficial cause that's going to help the families that are struggling through that and I'll talk about that soon.

But you touched on fear and sadly we live in a world now where I think fear dominates everything. The media, it's their only last call to keep us engaged So they are driven by fear to keep us scared so that we keep engaged. So I see fear as a growing issue in that regard. How do you deal with fear, whether it be on the mountain, on the run, in life or in property? What can you share with us that will help others to tackle that? Yeah, look, they're very deep from depending on the environment.

obviously the um you know on the mountain it's it's it's real but you don't see it you know it can be one wrong move or again wrong place wrong time which is completely out of your control so it's a bit hard to control but but you can't you can't let it overtake you because when you're in when you're in a place or mindset of fear you don't you don't make good decisions uh you know your your reasoning is clouded as a as a result so you and you got to work on this no you can't work on it once you're there you gotta work on it beforehand and it's in everyday life you don't like you don't need to be on the mountain you know every everything you can work on in everyday life you can use in in a lot of different scenarios um in terms of life look i mean there most of what

we do is pretty calculated uh risks i guess and so the fear sort of goes away because of it and for me it goes back to again you know our why um you know what we want to achieve and and how long we've got to achieve this and therefore we put a plan together which we're comfortable with and but to be comfortable with it or at the start because you know i mean when we started invested i was no different to anybody else i was like oh we need to be you know have some debt and and now we owe money to someone and that's danger what if things crash and you know all these questions are normal yeah but the more i educated myself and i'm not a i'm not an expert i know enough to to be dangerous as i said but but that allows that allowed tash and i to to be able to

to invest and and do these things so and that's what i do with everything you know whether it's the mountain or again running you know as i said here i took to i took too many people obviously I've got a team of medical specialists in different areas and, you know, I can ask them questions about different things and you just educate yourself and then you learn things and then you realize that a lot of your fear is there's just nothing behind and it was just, again, your mind trying to protect yourself and you're trying to do the best thing by you.

But other times it's not. yeah yeah no that i love your thoughts on that mate uh i know we've only just scratched the surface and we could talk for hours so we'll we will get you back uh to talk uh in the run-up to the the the massive cross-country run and beyond because there's a a lot of learnings and a lot of people will be inspired by what you're sharing with us but before i jump into the old uh ambush bushfire lightning round which i uh always uh put put guests through word is there anything else you want to leave us with in terms of key takeaways that uh we need to take on board from what you've shared with us today look the main thing for me is and i and i think about it all

the time so for instance i'll give you any so first of all i'll i'll say that you you have to define what is important to you and i'm still a work in progress in a in that area right and i still see myself looking at a nice car for instance like a could be a sports car whatever like a luxury car and i'm like oh i'd like to be driving this instead of my um my car but then you know that guy has done things that may not align with what i want to do to get that car and i'm very conscious of this and and so i derail my mind when when that happens to well hang on what is important to you all right so is it um is it working any hour a week and not be able to run and spend time with your family or is it working a bit less you know

obviously doing a good work at what you're doing uh but yeah they always there's always drawbacks to everything so you just got to define what is important to you and work hard on getting that whether it's a lifestyle or whatever it is i think that's very important because i can guarantee you that in social media is terrible for this but i can guarantee you that every single person on this planet has some form of problem they're dealing with guaranteed all right the guy that's got the mention at the end of the street, you probably don't see him getting up at 4 AM to take a flight on the Monday morning and come back on Friday night, working all hours of the night and so on and so forth or whatever it may be.

Yeah. And that's very important because, and I say that because just to go back to what I'm doing, a lot of people will see the 18 months of posting on social media that i've done on my training and that but i can guarantee you that these 18 months they're important but the 18 years that i've spent doing that stuff are a lot more important than these 18 months so define what is important to you is it's not easy right as i said i'm still a work in progress and i'm very aware of it and i'm trying to put things in place yeah but that is the crux of it all really yeah one hundred percent and and uh you know i as you know eddie i get to talk to

people every day and the first question i ask them is you know it's basically what is your why and and nine out of ten people say got no idea haven't thought about it no one's ever asked me that before if it's one thing that i think people need to really take some time on and and not just do it once but do it regularly because things do change is get crystal you know and what's really important to what are your values and how you want to live because you do get crystal on that everything else will fall into place uh once you actually take that step so i really appreciate you sharing that um uh right now man i'm gonna sort of strap on the uh the blindfold and the cigarette and and hit you with the uh the the fast questions in the ambush round to kick those off

what's your current favorite quote and why so i don't know who it's from i've got a i've got an app on my phone where i write all sorts of quotes that i read and never put who it's from so forgive me on this but uh he goes what we oh sorry we are what we repeatedly do and excellence therefore is not an act but a habit so and and what got me to where i am is my discipline to um you know i try every day i'm up every day which means i'm in bed early which means you know what i put in my body i'm careful with you know i want to put some good stuff and and they're just habits they're not motivation i'm not more motivated than anybody else to run it's just my discipline has been become a habit so i just get up and run and if i don't do that i feel weird yeah yeah it feels

unusual if you don't and that's what i love about that you've set a non-negotiable basically it's it's not up for question it's not a nice thing to do it's a thing you will do uh and and once you get into that repetitive exercise and and build up the 18 years of work that you've been doing consciously or unconsciously to achieve what you're about to do where is really what it's all about so that consistency and that relentless uh persistence is is clearly the key uh you've touched on the running exercise are there any other uh happy habits rewarding rituals or daily disciplines that that you adopt that had set you up for success and most of your life well i think i know my my it goes back to running again but my morning routine is definitely that so i've you

Again, I start my day very early and it's with a workout and that's pretty much every single day of the year except if I'm traveling, which makes it a bit tricky. But this is my win. It grounds me. So I'm starting the day and I usually come back home and most people are still asleep, which is, I take nothing out of this.

I'm not just like I'm better than that guy because he's asleep. But it is certainly my win. So everything that day, hopefully it doesn't, but everything that day can go to crap. And I've got something that I've achieved already, which is, again, grounds me. Yeah, I love it. Love that. Slight different subject.

What's something that you think most people misunderstand about discomfort, Eddie? It's a necessary evil, unfortunately. So nobody likes it, right? I don't like it any more than anybody else, as much as it might sound like I'm a sadistic human being. I'm not, right? I'm definitely looking for comfort and that stuff. But it is the only place where you can learn and evolve.

You're not going to learn. You might learn a few things, but you're not going to. If you're uncomfortable, whether it's work life or otherwise, this is the place where you learn. Because you won't want to go to that place again and therefore you're going to learn a lot to adapt to then when you're in that place again it doesn't feel uncomfortable anymore yeah and that's the crux of it there's no progression when you're comfortable this is just black and black and white um the the other thing is you

know again nobody likes discomfort i mean i always say it it sounds brittle but i'm i'm the same right me included we we're human beings and we're lazy we looking for shortcut we're looking for self-preservation and so on and so forth and again me included yeah and and so you know you gotta seek discomfort in your life to to achieve things and you don't have to achieve if you don't have to be the president of the united states or the cdo that's not what i mean at all but you have you have to push yourself a little bit and it doesn't have to be every day but you have to have your your little things or your little um aim that you you really need that in your life it's going to make you a better person it's going to shape you better 100 i i yeah on my allied topic

i heard someone say a while back and i i'd never thought about this until they shared it with me but if you don't choose your own discomfort your own challenge then something on someone else will and at least you've got the choice to choose your challenge and learn and grow from it. If you don't, the challenges aren't going to go away. They'll just be ones you probably don't want and probably don't enjoy. So I love that.

Completely different topic. If you could only eat one trail food, whether on the mountain or on the run for the rest of your life, what would it be and why? It has to be a baguette. Of course. I love my bread and pastries. It's in me forever, I think, being a Frenchman.

So, yeah, there you go. Love that. Love that. Final one. I want you to finish this sentence for me, Eddie. The key to sustainable success in life is? Defining your why and building a process to make it happen. You know, I come back to this, and I've come back to this all the time,

but it is, you know, especially with social media, There's always going to be someone that is better, that is richer, that is better looking, that runs longer, that run faster, that climbs higher than you. There's always going to be someone. You're never going to be the top of the crop ever. And so you've got to make a conscious effort to define what is important to you. And you've got to stop comparing yourself. And naturally, you will compare yourself. And I do that as well, right?

Yeah. But you've got to stop yourself. and i see that in the in the running circle you know i'm part of a running club and i you know i follow enough i know enough people now to to see that um you know people say i'm i'm just doing the half marathon because other people do the marathon i'm just sure i mean there's always going to be someone doing something bigger you know i'm i'm about to run almost 4 000 k's and someone will be running across canada which is 7 000 k's or someone would be faster than me or yeah so define your why you're never going to achieve um a successful life but the redefinition

of a successful life if you're constantly comparing yourself and wanting more which is it's part of us we always you know we forever unhappy with what we've got i think but it's a it's a matter of being conscious of these shortcuts in our minds and and putting things in place so that you can define what is important to you that's the most important thing in my mind yeah i i agree and i you know i'm a stuck record on that subject as you know eddie and i guess i i used to get frustrated about it i don't so much anymore because you can lead a horse to water and then they've got to decide to drink but I know from personal experience and and dealing with the likes of yourselves and and many others who have achieved what they want

in life that taking that hard step it's not easy but taking that hard step of really looking inside and working out who you are what's important to you getting to your values and then getting crystal clear on what you want to do with your life and how you want to live is the most important step and there'll be people listening to this right now whose ears will be shutting down their eyes will be glazing over it's like oh there's that damn why thing again that right there if that's how you're feeling right now that is your signal to actually step up to the plate because ignore that at your peril is what i would say for those that think ah don't worry about that now that that we're too busy to worry about that we'll just go out and buy property or do this or

do that if you don't take that fundamental step and you and if you don't this is where that discomfort you've talked about discomfort if you're feeling uncomfortable about doing because as you said it's a waste of time or other that is your flashing red light to say i need to spend some time on this because i guarantee that those who do take up your message on that eddie uh they won't know it now because it's it's not where you're at it's where you're heading that's the key thing for me so and you know coming back to that commentary around uh you know don't compare yourself with others don't criticize yourself either in the same aspect because i don't care where anyone's at today it's the journey they're on and where they're heading that's the most

important thing uh that they need to continue to focus on so i absolutely love that um uh mate there'll be a lot of people listening into this that uh you know i'm really inspired with what you've shared with us it's been a very moving conversation from many levels eddie how can we get more involved and or support your wrecking breaking cross-country attempt yeah oh there's a few areas so first one is my website so frenchmanontherun.com so on the website is there's a link on the uh home page for donations so if you have a look at red kite again i um i looked i looked around i didn't just you know google uh kids cancer association i i i know firsthand of the the excellent work that they're doing so and and what i'm you know my aim is a

million bucks and which sounds like much but it's really only 10 bucks for 100 000 people so if you've got 10 bucks to spare and it's almost um i don't know when this comes out but you know the end of financial year is coming up so uh but regardless so yeah my website frenchmanontherun.com otherwise i'm on instagram under frenchman on the run or facebook under uh probably eddie chigic or eddie frenchman would be the the main page and obviously on linkedin under eddie chigic you can find me there so i update what i'm doing in terms of the progress and and i put a bit of um of info and detail on the preparation and you know like i said the nutrition or the strength and conditioning and where I'm at and stuff like that.

So hopefully you can get something out of it. In the worst case scenario, get entertained. Yeah, and I've been following your story and the running and the inspiration that you get from that is awesome, both yourself and Tash in that regard. So I really want to thank you, Eddie. It's been an absolutely phenomenal journey so far and clearly you're only just getting started.

And what a reminder that success isn't a sprint. it's definitely an ultra marathon so whether you're climbing everest or you're building a property portfolio brick by brick it's clear that you've got to train your mind just as hard as your body and an eddie story really proves that consistency beats intensity every time that discomfort is the price of transformation and that the summit isn't a place it's a process so here's some takeaways for you freedom fighters to go the distance you've got to fall in love with the grind and be willing to do what others won't and stay the course when others fall away in property in endurance in life it's never the fastest who wins it's the one who refuses to stop

so make sure you follow eddie's journey at frenchmanontheron.com and we'll have that link in the show notes and if you're as inspired as i am eddie is making his mammoth cross-country run of over 3,900 kilometres, covering about 112 kilometres per day of 34 days straight, which is absolutely unbelievable. And that's pretty much the equivalent, I understand, of about two and a half marathons a day or thereabouts, which is his mission to push his physical and mental limits to new levels in order to raise funds and awareness for Red Kite,

who do a fantastic job at supporting kids with cancer and their families. so make sure you do make a donation now by clicking the show notes link to his website and make sure you also share this episode and his awesome endeavor with friends and family so they can also spread the word and get motivated to move mountains one step at a time and if you're motivated like i am join us on the property hub collective facebook community which eddie actually drives and ministers and we'll be happy to host a facebook live or q's Danae's or whatever you think's appropriate, where Eddie can share more of his incredible

achievements and learning. So put a message on there if you'd like to do that, and we'll get that organized. And you can sort of unpack the details of his similar success in property investment as well. So as we close, I want you to ask yourself, what's your mountain? What are you willing to run for? And what are you waiting for? So thanks again for joining us here the property hub now go out and climb your next peak do it one step at a time until next week remember to live by design not by default and as always get invested so let's make sure we keep the conversation going eddie thank you thanks bushy thanks for that i appreciate thank you thanks for tuning in to get invested on the property hub podcast channel

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