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Episode Date: August 19, 2022Given the incredible changes that have occurred with property values in recent times, alongside the current deluge of misleading hysterical headlines peddling property gloom and doom, it’s hard to k...now what is really happening. Kevin Brogan from Herron Todd White joins Bushy to pull apart the latest HTW property report called ‘What a lazy $700k will now buy you, where?’ RealtyTalk is your trusted voice in property investment and Australia’s most popular online property show. RealtyTalk is brought to you by Realty, Australia’s leading search and social property distribution platform that helps investors like you beat the crowd, giving you the earliest access to property opportunities, listings, and insights. Check out Realty. RealtyTalk is hosted by top property investment expert, author, and founder of KnowHow Property, Bushy Martin. Find out how Bushy’s KnowHow team helps investors unlock freedom with finance and property here, and check out Bushy’s podcast Get Invested. RealtyTalk is supported by BMT, a company that helps property investors save thousands of dollars each year by maximizing tax deductions from investment properties. Find out more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi and welcome to Realty Talk, Australia's longest running and most popular property
show. I'm Bushy Martin from Know How Property Finance and given the incredible changes that
have occurred with property values in recent times alongside the current deluge of misleading
hysterical headlines peddling property gloom and doom, it's hard to know what's really happening
where as we return to normal varying property conditions around the country. So to shed some
light on the true property picture across the nation, reputable property valuers have always
had their fingers on the pulse in relation to what's actually happening on the ground.
So Kevin Brogan from leading national valuation house, Heron Todd White, joins me for a very
special feature show that deep dives into their latest property report and annual update
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so let's get underway. Greetings and welcome. Now, given the crazy machinations of property
price movements across the nation over the last 12 to 18 months, many Australians find it
challenging to understand the differences in what and how much property your money will buy
depending on your location. For example the same amount of your hard-earned may only buy you a
small studio apartment in Bondi while it'll afford you a beautiful four-bedroom home in Bendigo
or perhaps even 50 acres plus in Biloela and of course this changes over time and considering
that property values generally have just finished enjoying the second highest property boom in the
230-year history of the country, it's increasingly difficult to understand what your dollars will buy
around the country, particularly if you're a borderless investor looking to optimize your
opportunity. So to help you shed some light on this, every year, leading national valuers,
Heron Todd-White, complete an in-depth study of what a buyer without boundaries can secure with
a lazy $700,000 and how it's changed over the last year. And to reveal the latest results,
We're joined by Kevin Brogan, Heron Todd-White's National Director of Group Risk and Compliance.
So welcome back to Realty Talk, Kevin.
Thanks very much, Bushy.
Very pleased to receive the invitation.
Well, always like having you, Tatu, mate.
You always give us some great insights and some real factual information on what's actually happening on the ground.
So to kick things off, Kevin, what's your summary of what's happened with property segments over the last 12 months?
well like almost all of the uh residential market segments have seen a a significant growth
growth over the last 12 months i mean we we talk about the fact that um you know there isn't just
one residential property market in australia although we quite often uh bundle uh bundle all
the market segments together so sort of within that um generalization that there's been growth
there's definitely been some different um speeds of increase so obviously the capital cities in
in the eastern states have seen very significant increases over uh over the last sort of 18 months
or more um but the other the other thing that's really notable um which which there's been a lot
of discussion about is the sort of regional and fringe markets uh where we've seen people you
know the the sort of um proximity to commuting uh opportunities isn't uh isn't the main driver
anymore so we've seen some of these fringe markets lifestyle uh advantages uh really sort
of taking the four on the list of people's attributes so um you know those sorts of markets
have really picked up very strongly as as well yeah no way spot on it's it's really increased
the opportunity base in that that capacity so what's your overall read of changing property
conditions and trends around the country then well so yeah we've spoken about the last 12 months and
and clearly you know if if you take that as as a year period the story really has been about growth
But obviously, we're now entering a phase where we're seeing a slowing down in some markets.
And we're even seeing in sort of Sydney and Melbourne a drop in property values.
But, you know, particularly market activity is dropping off.
And the main factors, obviously, fuel prices, the sort of consequent inflation in other goods and services, you know, those and increasing interest rates.
those are all things which are sort of slowing down market activity but you know we've got to
balance the the discussion around that because you know we've we've got the situation where we've
uh you know we've got a huge amount of fixed um fixed rate mortgage lending occurred over the last
sort of 18 months or so those those mortgages aren't going to wait sorry those fixed terms
aren't going to expire um for the next 18 months or so so those people are to some degree they're
sort of insulated they're still going to face inflation and you know increased costs of living
but they're not going to be in the position where they need to engage with increased interest rates
for a while but you know the other factor is there's been a period of enforced savings I mean
all through COVID those states which were impacted by travel restrictions you know the money that
would have been spent on travel entertainment hospitality and sorts of those sorts of things
have you know there's been that enforced savings to give people a bit of a buffer
um a couple of pressure points i think which which we may pick up on as we go through the
discussion is around the the purchase and construction of new dwellings yeah um you know
the the increase in construction cost is actually quite a significant consideration
and you know we probably talk about the impact on builders of having committed to fixed price
construction contracts um at a time when uh you know construction costs are escalating quite
significantly um i think the main story is is you know we we've got a bit of a dent in confidence
and that's leading i'm going to call the market participants but actually one of the characteristics
is that they may choose not to participate in the market um for the time being um and you know that
that may be an appropriate strategy as you know many market commentators are talking about
increased interest rates being something which is a short to medium term phenomenon
so waiting and seeing what happens may be an appropriate strategy for a large number of people
who might other choose otherwise choose to participate in the market yeah it's uh very
good thoughts as you and i know i've been in the industry for a long time uh it's not just interest
rates that impact on on property values there's a there's a whole uh world of uh changeable
dynamics that that impact on what's happening at different times in different places so
in that context what combination of value lifting and dragging drivers are contributing to what's
happening currently well i think one one of the things is i mean we we've discussed some of the
factors and and people's knowledge of those factors at a superficial level often comes from
sort of media reporting and such like and um you know a lot a lot of the facts behind the media
reporting are correct but there's a lot of emphasis on uh increasing interest rates causing
a dramatic decline in property values um and look we are in some markets seeing property values
dropping um as a result of of uh you know as i said those people perhaps postponing activity in
market it's meaning that there's less market activity so there's less immediate demand at a
time when there is a supply of property on the market and that exerts a downward pressure on
property prices but there are plenty of markets where the rate of increase has slowed down the
rate of market activity has slowed down but there hasn't been a drop yet in in prices and I think
something else that sort of impacts on confidence perhaps is I think there's an estimate of about
1.1 million households that haven't until just in the last couple of months ever experienced an
increase in mortgage repayments yeah um and i guess that's that's something that people you
know they would exercise a deal of caution there's you know the the uh the bank lenders obviously
have a serviceability test they need to stress test borrowers at a point in time how much of an
increase in interest rates could they bear but that's very much a point in time test um when
when you've actually then become accustomed to a level of income and you've got to accommodate an
increase in interest rates it does probably mean people are being a little bit cautious
and of course the the other thing is that the employment market still is really strong so
um as as long as that remains the case um then that's going to act as a mitigating impact
Yeah, totally agree. And again, as you and I know, property values in a particular area go through a bit of an S-curve cycle over time. So the fact that we've had such meteoric increases over the last couple of years is not unusual to see the extended spring come back to equilibrium and then plateau for a period.
So, you know, rather than the hysterical property busts or crashes that they're talking about, from where I sit, I'm just seeing things come back to a more normal type situation from, you know, moving from the radical to the regular, if you like.
So how is all this manifesting in Herentob White's property valuations around the nation as you were seeing it then, Kevin?
Yes. So, as you mentioned, my job title means monitoring risk. And clearly, if we see market conditions changing such that values may drop, that obviously represents a risk to, you know, we do a lot of valuations for mortgage purposes.
so our clients are lenders so we need to be advising them about the the conditions in the
market. I think what what's really important is is sort of well it's important to me hopefully
to others as well the the role of the valuer is to determine the market value of a property and if I
I may I just say that that is the estimated amount for which an asset should exchange on the date of
valuation between a willing buyer and a willing seller in an arm's length transaction after proper
marketing and where both parties have acted knowledgeably prudently and without compulsion
and so whenever we look at actual transactions in the market they may or may not meet that criteria
so when when we're valuing a property that is subject to a contract we're not actually valuing
that contract we're valuing well if the property sold in a hypothetical transaction that meets
that definition on the same day what would that sale price be now in a lot of instances you know
if you've marketed the property for a real estate agent the actual transaction meets that definition
but not always so what what we've got to do in providing our advice for which we're accountable
we've got to look at settled sales but obviously those settled sales may represent different market
conditions so it's really important that our valuers are reading the market they're understanding
from their real estate agent contacts the level of buyer inquiry the number of active bidders at
an auction you know understanding the transaction i mean who is selling at the moment um you know
i mentioned about market participants perhaps sitting on the sidelines to see what happens next
um people selling properties at the moment may feel that they have to so do they then meet the
definition of of uh you know somebody selling a property without compulsion good point um so the
the challenge for us is to make sure that our valuers are um following their normal process
frankly which is the due diligence understanding the market in places i'm sitting in adelaide so
we don't seem to have seen a drop in values yet but our valuers need to be vigilant to see
when that is likely to occur um i've mentioned already construction valuations they're particularly
challenging because the cost of construction is increasing and potentially in some markets
the value of the finished product is declining at the same time something yeah interesting on
that point we're actually seeing uh where because of the construction costs are going up
so high and people are looking at that and going okay well i'd rather buy an existing property
It's actually boosting the potential values of those existing properties as an indirect result.
Absolutely. So recently refurbished properties have the benefit of kind of saving you all of the time and trouble that's required to do it.
So long as they meet your requirements, there's a very strong desire in Australia to build precisely what you want.
And that's what sort of drives the new build.
But if somebody else has done all the hard work, you're absolutely right.
That is a very attractive proposition at the moment.
Yeah, very interesting, Kevin.
Well, we'll now take a quick short break
before we start jumping into the details
of your lazy $700,000 property port.
So stay tuned and stay with us for more.
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Brogan from Heron Todd White on their latest report on what you can buy with a lazy $700,000
around the country. So before we start Kevin can you kick us off by sort of giving us a bit more
detail on why you've chosen $700,000 as the purchase price figure to compare what it'll buy
around the country. Yeah look we actually selected $700,000 a couple of years ago and the idea was
that you know in in most markets you could probably find something as as you mentioned in
your uh your introduction you know i mean it's going to vary a fair bit um what 700 000 will
uh will buy you um so you know it might be a a studio apartment or um you know it could be
50 hectares in uh you know in in outback uh you know queensland um but most markets you can find
something now i have to be honest it's been a challenge after the last year there are some
localities where now it's just kind of bumped out of that and i'll give you a couple of examples as
we go through um you know the areas where we've uh where we've researched this um but you know we
we can still find uh something at that price point and we do acknowledge that you know in some
in some markets $700,000 is kind of towards the lower end of what you can get but $700,000
for a lot of people is a lot of money and so we acknowledge that in picking
you know in picking this price point it means different things to different people but
it has a broad application. Yeah and that's a good measure and it'll certainly been put under
the test in the last 12 months hopefully that'll settle down a bit in the next 12 but yeah let's
sort of get into the the guts of this year's report proper then and start that off at the
overall level has there been much change in what you can actually get for $700,000 over the last
year Kevin? Yeah so as we said before I mean some markets have experienced some almost meteoric
increases of sort of over 20 percent over the um five percent over the over the last year other
other locations have seen more modest growth um so there definitely has been uh been a bit of a
shift and some uh you know some suburbs that we actually recommended as as being uh you know a
good suburb to get a property for around seven hundred thousand dollars last year um you look
at the median price now and it's uh it's you're just not going to find anything um in in those
locations so yeah look as as we said we we talk about the australian residential market as a
totality and and that does serve a purpose and it is relevant but it really does disguise uh some
fairly significant variations yeah i totally agree and i guess they while there's there's no choice
median prices in particular can hide a lot of evils because when you get down to the individual
property that's that can be very different to other properties in the area you can sort of
get outliers that that occur in that but in the absence of anything else at least gives us a
flavor what for what's going so in that context then have the changes and outcomes that you've
been seeing and this is a bit of a rhetorical question really been uniformed by property type
and location? And if not, in your view, why not? Yeah, look, we've seen some variations. I'll
maybe just concentrate on the ones that you can sort of attribute to, you know, our response to
COVID. Because, you know, we've clearly seen, you know, people tending towards properties that give
them a little bit more flexibility with their accommodation. If you're going to be working
from home uh you know people who've perhaps been working off the dining table in a house that
they're sharing with other people have struggled a lot more than people who've got a spare bedroom
that they can just you know keep for for working from home so you know we we've seen demand for
slightly more flexible accommodation slightly larger houses really sort of pick up um and also
um you know in we don't need to commute i'm in the office today um actually i'm spending quite
a few days in the office this week but you know that hasn't for the last few months been
something that i've done i've been quite happy to work from home coming into the office occasionally
and that really does shape the way uh you know that demand has has um you know manifested across
the market so um you know if if we look at um investor stock type units they they've perhaps
struggled a bit more particularly where um supply of new units has come on at a time where you just
haven't really had the rental demand for those uh units and and that's particularly sort of cbd
locations yeah yeah no that very interesting well kevin that there's been a lot of talk as we touched
on earlier particularly over the last couple of years about the rise of the regions compared to
our capital cities how has this played out with this year's $700,000 spend over the course of
the last year? Yeah so I mean to be honest in a lot of the regional locations there's still plenty
of options at the $700,000 mark but we have seen very strong price growth here and I think one of
the reasons is that that people who are looking to move to the regions if they're moving from
a capital city environment even if it's only a small percentage of potential buyers from those
uh you know capital city metropolitan areas uh compared to the amount of local stock that's
available that is quite a significant demand so yeah um you know as as you see that sustained
demand from a really big population base looking to move into smaller communities that's what's
really exerted upward pressure on uh on those values um but you know you've you've still got
plenty of options around that 700 000 mark in a lot of those regional um markets and i what i'm
going to say next may offend people in my home city of adelaide but to some degree and i don't
want to i don't want to promote the stereotype of adelaide being a big country town because we are
so much more than that but we've we've actually seen you know over many years what's known as the
brain drain where where the young highly educated skilled professional folk from adelaide moved to
the eastern states well through covid an awful lot of them have come back because you know their
families are here they're you know free child care is here um and they've they've looked to adelaide
from an eastern capital city vantage point and they've seen really good value buying
house prices in adelaide look relatively affordable so you know whilst i don't want to
sort of promote the stereotype of adelaide being a regional center the the fact is that we've seen
a lot of interstate purchasers very active in the adelaide market and part of the reason is we we
are quite affordable by comparison to the the place they're coming from yeah totally agree and
and i still say the country's best kept secret uh kevin although that it's not not quite so in the
last 12 months but uh we won't try and talk it up too much mate uh so that we get to continue to
enjoy it yeah on a sort of related note uh how have residential rental markets been performing
as you say yeah again i mean this this has been pretty variable there's been a lot of recent
um coverage and justifiably so about the strength of the rental markets um but it was really
interesting that during the early phase of covid um purpose-built investment grade units really did
struggle and no international students um migration almost completely halted and and you know with with
100 000 people a year having been moving into somewhere like melbourne um a lot of those people
would rent before they purchased and of course migration dropped to almost zero um the other
thing that hit it hit it really hard is you know younger people working in hospitality and
entertainment would typically be renters and of course you know a number of those people would
moved back to the family home because their employment was so badly affected um and also
airbnb properties with the lack of tourism a lot of airbnb properties kind of moved back into the
general long-term residential rental course so you you've got this demand dropping off supply
increasing um and whilst now we've moved past that you've actually now got to make up that ground
before you then start you know moving into significant rental growth but you know they
i mean again i'll just talk about adelaide for a moment i mean uh and this is typical of many
markets uh vacancies at a record low um rents moving up um you know pretty um significantly
and that's partly because of the employment market being so strong um and uh you know some
of those Airbnb properties moving back
into the short-term accommodations.
Particularly, we've seen a resurgence
in domestic travel.
Regional markets
have fared much better.
Domestic travel, obviously, with people
not being able to go overseas,
we've seen a fair bit of
domestic tourism.
I don't like the term, but it's been
used quite a lot, workcations.
I could quite easily
just pack my lap
into a bag and go and stay on the coast um and you know work pretty productively from there
um and so we've actually seen that sort of thing happening um as well um and so you know in many
markets we've actually seen rents increasing quite sharply and vacancy rates have really
you know record low um vacancy rates in some markets well it's a good term workations because
That's exactly what I'm doing as we speak.
So I'm going to use that now.
I hadn't actually heard that thrown around,
but I'll definitely be using it moving forward.
We've touched on this earlier as well,
but just to dive into it in a little bit more detail,
at the sort of general level,
how's the new construction space been affected
and what overall impact is this having?
Yeah, so this is a very difficult area.
And again, there's been plenty of media coverage
of builders who've um succumbed to uh to the pressure so it's a really tough environment for
for builders um obviously through um you know various stimulus measures as well as just the
general strength of the market through covid we actually saw a record demand for um construction
of new homes and many builders have been have committed to a fixed price or lump sum construction
contract um and at the time they did so that possibly didn't seem unreasonable but with
supply chain issues um but also skilled labor shortages we've seen those construction costs
increase we've seen delays increase um and the real challenge well there's a number of challenges
but a really big one for builders is is that they're only able to claim payment um when they
reach generally a fixed stage um now if a builder has done 90 of the stage but they can't get the
materials or they can't get the labor to finish that stage they're not actually able to claim
payment for the work that they've done and the money that they've outlaid and that's a really
challenging cash flow environment of course um so you know we there there are plenty of builders
who are really struggling with that
and many builders are looking at contract structures now
that allow them, at least in part,
to recover some of their cost escalations from clients.
But that in itself is quite a difficult challenge
for people who are seeking to obtain a mortgage
to fund their construction.
Absolutely.
I've been involved in that in the past,
that you only get one really bite of the cherry with the banks
and that's at the start of the process,
not the end of the process so where that that's really going to work create some challenges
uh yeah look it is and i think the the further challenge we've touched on this when we talk
talked about valuations is if you've um if you've bought a block of land and you're looking to build
a house on it you're hoping that the value will be at least as much as you paid for the land and
the price that you paid for the construction however if um if values in your location do fall
you're actually faced with the double whammy of the cost of the construction increasing at the
same time that the value of the finished product decreases and that can obviously make funding via
a mortgage really quite a um a tricky proposition absolutely yeah it's a very good point well
Well, thanks, Kevin.
We'll now take another very short break before we dive back into what's happening around the grounds on a state-by-state basis.
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Hi and welcome back. Now in continuing our deep dive into Heron Todd White's latest property
report with Kevin Brogan, let's now dig into the meat and potatoes of the what you can buy where
with a lazy $700,000 by going around the grounds on a state-by-state basis to reveal your findings.
So, Kevin, with a focus on what you can buy where around the state and how this differs
to what you could secure 12 months ago, let's kick off with New South Wales.
Yeah, look, I think if we have a look in Sydney, I mean, historically, that's obviously been
the most expensive capital city for residential property. But there are pockets that we've
identified so in southwest sydney uh we found it's it's a relatively affordable um area compared
to the rest of sydney and i think it's it's interesting because it is more affordable the
the rate of value growth has perhaps been a little bit more modest than uh what's been reported for
the uh the sort of sydney metro area as a whole okay and so far the area hasn't sort of ventured
into that negative growth territory we haven't seen values fall yet now that's you know it's
probably a timing thing um but you know a budget of seven hundred thousand dollars i said this
this is a budget that could buy you something almost anywhere in the country but of course
uh it's going to limit what you can buy and it particularly sort of limits us to sort of units
and townhouses in many areas um but we've identified uh suburbs like busby miller sadly
ashcroft and cartwright which are all just west of liverpool uh they still offer opportunities
for a detached dwelling within our budget and we've got an example of a 1960s pretty good
condition four bedroom one bath renovated home on a 630 square meter block and it sold for 620,000
fairly recent so those sorts of things are still available and we've identified also that you can
get some detached houses within our budget of 700 000 in western sydney um but you'd probably
be limited to strata properties that's units and townhouses in paramatta canterbury bankstown um
now i have to say within the time allotted here we we've sort of compressed it and we've given
sort of edited highlights and um you know there there are lots more examples in our monthly review
report. Yeah totally great I might just touch on one area that a lot of people are talking about
that's the Hunter Valley in the central coast how is that shaping? Yeah look again 700,000 is
is enough to actually give you a fair bit of choice in in that sort of locality but again
we we have seen some fairly significant growth in those areas precisely for the reasons that
we've discussed i mean it is commutable to um to sydney probably wouldn't want to do it every day
but nowadays you don't have to um we've seen a lot of growth there and uh so there there are areas
there which are now sort of you know last year they would have been on our list but now they're
sort of outside the list but 700 000 is still a a decent budget to find uh properties in that area
um and we've you know we've also in the regions i mean picked out sort of lismore casino coyote
you can actually get rural residential property um around the um you know the outskirts of those
areas for sort of with four thousand square meters to five hectares um within budget uh but i
mentioned we can't find something everywhere so the byron shire seems now to be out of reach
well and truly i can imagine as you may expect yeah of course well let's now shift to victoria
what will 700 000 buyers wear in the garden state kevin yeah so i mean around melbourne sort of close
into the city you're you're really only going to find sort of one and two bedroom um units but
capital growth has been pretty modest we mentioned before um some of the drivers for growth have been
sort of accommodation flexibility to facilitate working from home etc so there's there's been more
demand for slightly larger properties and some of these units as well perhaps aimed at the rental
market and investors in sort of southeast Melbourne places like Pakenham and Clyde have
offered plenty of dwelling opportunities but for detached houses within budget that's about 50
kilometers from the cbd in melbourne yeah we've got an example of a 1993 bedroom two bath house
on 785 square meters just sold for 675 000 in packenham and there's also opportunities
um in mount evelyn in the outer east donnybrook in the north and tiny in the in the western suburbs
um and then in the regions you know you can get a new three bedroom two bath from home
in one of the developing areas of Warrnambool um or you know if you head out to the Murray Riverina
Riverina or Macedon Ranges uh if if you want a bit more land again there's plenty of opportunities
within budget in in those areas yeah okay well let's now sort of head north to Queensland uh
what changes have you seen and and what will 700,000 get you in the Sunshine State from top
to bottom yeah well look I mean we'll start with um uh with Brisbane it's still an incredibly
popular place to buy residential property particularly as you mentioned for buyers
without borders it's going to open you know our budget's going to open fewer doors in fewer
locations than than last year so in the inner suburbs the budget's really only likely to get
you a unit or a townhouse but we've got for example a three bed two bath townhouse
um slightly older but in good condition uh in bowen hills recently sold for 640 000
um a bit further north in strathpine you can still get a detached dwelling within budget but
you're likely to need to sort of roll up your sleeves and renovate
um in the mid to outer suburbs you can get a house on about 400 square meters
so modest size blocking cooper's plain salisbury acacia ridge okay um and then looking at the rest
of the state prices are holding sort of pretty firm in the gold coast at the moment um we've
still got fairly good buyer activity there and and you know compared to last year again there
are probably fewer locations that you can uh you can find but the tip is probably um you know
the older style units just make sure there's no deferred maintenance issues um they'll still be
in budget and we've got a 1970s two bed one bath unit in Koolangatta for uh 700,000 sold recently
um then up on the sunshine coast you can still get properties in beachside suburbs obviously not
beachside location um between mount coulomb and caloundra um they're still an option um
and then if you go up to cairns you can you can still get a decent home in a uh in the suburbs
of cairns and 700k still goes a long way in the atherton table and it's beautiful country out
there yeah um bundaberg you should be able to get a large modern family home with a pool and sheds
in some pretty good locations in bundaberg um and in mckay 700 000 will get you an older style
dwelling um classic queenslander in in traditional established suburbs yeah okay well it's still
still uh pretty good territory in the queensland let's now flick to your home state of south
Australia and it appears to have been a bit of an outlier nationally in recent times. What and
where will 700 grand buy us in the home of the Croatas and how is this different to last year?
Well South Australia and Adelaide have historically had a reputation and justifiably for a sort of
slower and steadier market but the last couple of years we've seen some really significant capital
growth um and uh you know some of that has been we've attracted a fair bit of um overseas business
investment and i think it's because of our isolation from uh you know from the worst
impact of the coronavirus lockdowns yeah um so we we still may be able to live up to that
reputation for being steady because we're yet to see a downturn in in prices that we've seen
in eastern states market activity has uh dropped a little but um you know as i've heard you
comment before you know good quality properties are still attracting um you know a good deal of
interest um in adelaide 700 000 still goes a pretty long way and you're going to have options
in most suburbs but i've got an example here of a um a 1930s um single level bungalow quite a lot
of character it's been renovated three bedrooms one bathroom almost 600 square meters in pennington
about 12 kilometers northwest of adelaide and that sold for about 675 000 yep if we look to the uh
to the regions again i mean we've got quite a few um outer regions where 700 000 is still a very
generous um budget um if i just pick on mount gambier you know the median house price in mount
gambia is about 350 000 still so there's still plenty of options within budget um i'd suggest
you buy two and a nice place i came through mount gambia only about a week ago where i haven't been
there for a while and it's got a really good feel to the town so good suggestions there all right
look at very revealing uh again as always kevin so we'll take another quick break and then we'll
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Welcome back to Realty Talk. We're Kevin Brogan from Heron Todd White and I. I'm packing the
latest national property report on what you can secure with a lazy $700,000. In the last segment,
we covered off in New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland and South Australia. And now we
continue with the remaining states. So Kevin, Western Australia appears to be enjoying a
welcome resurgence. How is the largest state in the country fared at the $700,000 spend level?
Yeah, look, I think, as you mentioned earlier, I mean, the WA residential property has experienced
significant value growth and and um if we just look backwards for a little while i mean uh we
we saw value growth in the eastern states and we just didn't see it for a long time in wa so
it's now their time to uh to shine um so although we've seen that really good value growth and we
saw a tremendous amount of new um construction it's not quite at the same rate as uh as the
eastern states yeah um but nonetheless i mean even though we've seen that increase there are
still opportunities within that 700 000 budget and um there's uh there's an example that we've
uh found in walaji it's 15 kilometers southwest of perth so not really that far um south um it's
a 732 square meter lot with a 1950s built dwelling okay it's sold for 675 000 now one of the drivers
in in uh in perth and wa would be that the lot is actually zoned r40 slash 60. yeah um and it will
actually offer good development opportunities once perhaps construction costs uh normalize um
so obviously it's got a perfectly habitable dwelling uh on the site so either live in it
until the opportunity arises or you get a holding income until the opportunity arises to
to subdivide and develop. Looking at some of the regions, I mean Margaret River,
we found an example of a $700,000 sale. It was a new property or near new property, pretty good
quality and four bedrooms, two bathroom home on a 500 square meter lot, sold for just under $700,000.
thousand um so look the story is fairly similar um but you know there are areas where perhaps
last year we might have suggested 700 000 would get you in um and that's now no longer the case
but the you know the opportunities are bound yeah just uh focusing in on the southwest uh area
sort of between Bunbury and uh Rockingham uh any comments on what's happening there
uh yeah look we've we've certainly seen um i mean that's that's an area obviously where the domestic
tourism has uh has sort of kicked off in a big way and we've actually seen the local economy
performing really very strongly um down there i mean once again you're you're probably going to
be priced out um you know perhaps if you wanted to be uh you know close to the coast you're probably
going to have to move in a little bit but nonetheless 700 000 is still something uh you
know it's still a budget that's going to be able to get you um you know a decent a decent property
in a pretty good location yeah awesome okay well let's now uh turn to the good old northern
territory yeah what's changed at the seven hundred thousand dollar spend uh anywhere from
down to alice springs yeah well look i mean uh northern territory is is one of those territories
uh uh you know where we we really saw um you know from the peak in 2014 we actually uh you know
actually saw um some reductions in values but you know this time around we've we've seen some
increases so um over the last 12 months once again we've seen some areas that probably we
might have mentioned last year that have snuck out of the area but some of the um the inner darwin
suburbs if you're crafty are still within uh within reach like miller parrot stewart park
bayview and woolner um even some of the northern beaches suburbs like nightcliff rapid creek
coconut grove they they could still be in in reach but properties at this price point will become
fewer and fewer yeah if we look at alice springs um we've actually got a couple of properties just
sold for just a fraction under 700 000 around desert springs and mount johns uh surrounding
the golf course nice areas yep absolutely now they're again they're becoming harder to find
um these properties are on the uh the freeway they're they're not direct access to the golf
Of course, they're sort of mid-1980s built brick homes, three bedrooms, two bathrooms, but nonetheless quite well located and fitting within that $700,000 budget.
Yeah, okay, interesting.
Well, let's now turn to the ACT, which has always been a bit of a property black sheep.
What's changed at the $700,000 level in our nation's capital?
well i mean this this is one i just use this as an example for where uh somewhere that we
recognize last year as being a good uh a good place to spend seven hundred thousand dollars
is actually sort of out of reach so we we suggested monash which is at the southern
end of the district of uh tagarimong um we thought that would be the place to be to be looking um
The median house price there has jumped by over 25% since we made that
recommendation. And, you know,
typically 660,000 would buy you a three bedroom house,
but a 25% on increase, increase on that,
understanding that median there'll be houses above and below,
but I mean that level of increase has sort of taken that,
that area Monash off the, off the, off the table. But, you know, we,
We found some houses which were within budget
within Casey, Taylor and McGregor,
and they're sort of in the north to northwestern suburbs.
And we've also identified some townhouse opportunities
in the Western Creek region, which is southwest of Canberra.
And it looks like there's a reasonable prospect
of continued growth in that sort of area.
Yeah, interesting.
Okay, well, lastly, but far from leastly,
good old Tassie and Hobart in particular
have been enjoying a really stellar rise in property values in the recent past.
So how's the API all faring at the $700,000 mark
and does this very much around the state?
Yeah, look, I think, as you say, Tasmania has had a terrific reputation.
I mean, a lot of people have chosen to retire to Tasmania
or, you know, other tree change motives to move down there.
so we've seen a sustained period of growth um and obviously particularly within the last couple of
years um there are still plenty of options uh within the seven hundred thousand dollar budget
so you know a purchaser from the mainland will see tasmania still as as being um you know relatively
good value buying um so we we've found within seven hundred thousand dollars a renovated two
bedroom, one bathroom, a freestanding villa in Glenorchy. We found some freestanding detached
dwellings in a fringe area like Brighton or near Norfolk. And then if we look, you know,
to other northern suburbs, we've seen, you know, plenty of upgraders sort of moving out and family
buyers looking for sort of bigger and better homes, you know, for growing families, but also,
as we said, for, you know, that sort of flexibility of accommodation so that they can
uh work from home without interrupting the residential utility of the home so
you know we've got suburbs like brighton austin's ferry claremont uh they're becoming
increasingly popular but 700 000 will uh will get you in there um and just something a little bit
different um you know regional tasmania has seen significant price growth and we've mentioned
the interstate purchases um but there's still plenty of opportunities and one in particular
um look like an interesting proposition about 700 000 uh it's a 1970s three bedroom
uh one bath dwelling it's on almost 14 hectares um and uh is in baghdad which is about 40
kilometers north of hobart so if you're after that um lifestyle change plenty of room around you
but still commutable if you needed to, to Hobart.
That seemed like a particularly good proposition.
Absolutely.
Any thoughts on the northwest coast from sort of Launceston
right through to Stanley?
What are you seeing there?
Yeah, a really similar story.
I mean, we've seen this strength of growth in the regions
all across the country, and it's been true in Tasmania as well.
We've seen the volume of transactions in the market really, really take off over the last 18 months.
There's been a little bit of a slowdown in market activity, but it's not yet manifested in declining prices.
But once again, even though pockets of particularly desirable areas may have moved out, if you've got $700,000 to spend, you will find a good property that will take your fancy.
Kevin, that's rounded out a really great look at how properties fare differently in each state across the nation over the last 12 months. So after another quick break, we'll get your summary on your latest report together with your thoughts on the future. So stay with us.
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Hi and welcome.
Now, Kevin Brogan from Heron Todd White
has given us a very detailed run
through the latest annual property report
on where and what you can buy for a lazy $700,000.
So now we're going to bring this all together
with a quick summary and conclusions,
as well as thoughts on what's likely to happen moving forward.
So Kevin, at the magic $700,000 price point,
which property types, areas and locations
have been most affected over the last 12 months?
yeah so i i think um you know as we've discussed some of some of the uh the areas that have
experienced the highest growth have been those areas perhaps where covid is has made a lasting
change to the attributes that people are looking for in a property so um you know the property
types that have really um prospered have been the ones that offer that extra accommodation
that give you a bit of flexibility to work
without impinging on the residential utility of the property.
I think, obviously, the last 12 months includes a period
where in some markets for the last couple of months,
we've seen a bit of a downturn in market activity
and possibly values.
And I think one of the things to look out for
is the fact that really good quality properties
are going to fare better than properties
which have some negative attributes typically a property with one or more negative attributes
people you know people will buy them when the market's really strong because there's not so
much choice there's more demand than there is supply but yes once it tips over to the um you
know to the fact that there's a bit more supply than there is demand any property with a negative
attribute is going to sort of be left on the shelf now you may you may get lucky in the next upturn
that that sort of property comes back into demand but um you know it if if uh if it's been on the
market for a little while and you've got other properties turning over you'd maybe want to look
at the ones that are or the type of property that's selling more quickly um as as we've
mentioned before some of some of the areas uh which we've identified and perhaps even recommended
previously for a 700 000 budget um are now out of reach and so i suppose you know on the plus side
if um if you read our report a year ago and you uh and you bought into those areas you'd be laughing
um yeah but um yeah look those those are the things sort of to uh to to look out for um and
uh you know the good news is that that 700 000 budget in in many many markets will still get you
um you know a decent property either for owner occupation or for investment or as i mentioned
with wa perhaps with an upside uh development down the track yeah absolutely now where this is a bit
of a difficult question but uh where do you think are the current best value locations around the
country to secure a quality property for seven hundred thousand dollars and your thoughts on why
Well, look, I think, you know, this is obviously sort of broadly based market advice rather than individual advice about particular areas.
But, you know, I'll wave the flag a bit for Adelaide.
I mean, I just have a look at the fact that through COVID, we've actually seen some sort of economic development.
We've been sought out by, you know, various international companies.
we've we've developed um it's been a longer burn than just through covid but you know we've
developed some uh innovation hubs technology hubs and then they've got a bit of a gravitational pull
um to broaden the economic base and this this is obviously part of a recovery from
uh you know a significant reliance on motor vehicle manufacture obviously with mitsubishi
going back a few years and holding um so you know the thing to look out for is that broad economic
base at the moment um and long may it continue the the um the labor market has been really strong
and the broad economic base gives you the maximum opportunity for that to continue and be sustainable
in the longer term yeah um i think it's also really interesting looking at regional centers
that have seen a longer term resurgence but i think this is one of the things that covid will
have changed perhaps um maybe forever um those attributes you know being able to benefit from
lifestyle advantages of living a little bit out of town um you know you you hear reports of uh of
employers um you know seeing um you know where it's appropriate for for office workers you know
seeing um productivity gains from people working from home i don't know how you go but i always
seem to work work from earlier until later yes when i'm working from home yeah um and you know
those those sorts of issues are probably here to stay they may tail off a bit as people come back
into the office but nonetheless uh i think those fringe and regional centers are going to see a
longer term uh benefit and of course domestic travel um you know i my own personal experience
was not being able to travel overseas i did travel a bit um seeing our own wonderful country
and i think i'm hooked um don't get me wrong i'll probably go overseas as well but i i would
love to see more of of uh of australia and i think domestic travel and and people having
work patients is something that will probably stay yeah yeah the other thing about regional
markets of course i mentioned just the the weight of numbers you know i mean the demand for property
in in um you know in regional markets is coming from people who live in the metropolitan areas and
you know the base of that demand the demand base is still going to exceed local supply because a
lot of these regional markets have got a finite amount of supply some of them have got some new
build activity um but you know the the rural residential the lifestyle type properties um
you know there's not going to be a a significant new supply coming on so so long as demand remains
steady that's you know that's going to be okay and then then you answered about yeah i'm sorry
you asked about some of the uh the more difficult areas and i think you know we did mention them
going through some of the unit markets have struggled because you know pre-covid restrictions
additional supply was coming onto the market already um you know the rental market stagnated
for a while um and whilst things have turned around we've actually got to pick up the slack
um you know that those vacancy rates um you know migration is still not kicking off the way that it
did um sort of pre-covid so it's just going to take a little bit of time for the existing supply
to get taken up um and uh you know it will probably reach equilibrium but it will take a
little while to get there whereas um you know some of the other markets we've discussed look as if
there's uh you know even if we have a little bit of a correction as we've discussed uh in the
current environment it looks as if the demand for that type of thing will continue yeah awesome
great thoughts there well let's jump into the present for a minute uh and just get a really
quick rundown on your current national property clock and what it's telling us about which areas
are peaking, declining, bottoming and rising? Yeah look the property clock is intended to be
a good visual representation of where we see different markets and effectively 12 o'clock is
sort of peak of market, three o'clock is declining market, six o'clock is the bottom of the market
and nine o'clock is the rising market um one one of the things that i would love to do is to animate
this so that you can actually see the the markets moving around the clock so that you can see where
they were six months ago and where they've moved to now yes um but you know what what we've uh you
know what we've seen um uh over the last two or three months is is you know a number of markets
have moved from the peak of the market into the sort of starting to decline um area and that
obviously include um you know sydney and and melbourne again we've we've aggregated these
markets we've already discussed how you know sydney and melbourne are made up of all sorts
of sub markets but in in aggregate we've seen values coming back in in sydney and melbourne
we've we've seen the start of it in gold coastal but not to the same extent as sydney and melbourne
and we've seen a bit in some of the regional markets like Ballina and Cobb's Harbour but then
then we look at you know places like Brisbane, Canberra, Geelong you know they've they've
performed really very strongly we're sort of saying well they're at the peak of the of the
market at the moment I'd say you know we we've still got Adelaide perhaps approaching the peak
of the market because we we've yet to see um you know significant um reduction in in market
activity and values um if you've been following auction clearance rates um you know i've been
doing a bit of adelaide flag waving because the auction clearance rates in uh in adelaide have
actually remained fairly robust they've softened a bit but they've remained fairly robust yes so
all of that's for houses but we do a separate clock um for units it's you know for units the
market conditions are slightly different and and you know i think they're not um they're not
completely dissimilar but some of the drivers so for example um you know melbourne has probably
been showing up as being a weaker market for uh cpd and dockland uh investment quality
units and i make the distinction because units constructed for uh for for renting generally
don't have you know that extra storage cage that extra little bit of room for owner occupied living
yes um so some some of the more generously proportioned units in in melbourne have
probably still been doing uh reasonably well but some of those that were built with the intention
of renting them out have probably just found that to be a bit of a struggle.
And again, Adelaide, we do have a number of sort of unit buildings within the Adelaide
CBD, but we've not reached the point where there's an oversupply.
So we're still seeing a reduced level of increase or reduced rate of increase, but
we're still seeing increases.
So we're suggesting that, you know, that Adelaide is sort of approaching the peak of market, whereas Gold Coast for units is probably sort of at the peak.
Yeah, no, really good sort of calibration of where we're at.
And finally, sort of turning to the future, and we won't hold you to this, obviously, because there's so many dynamics impacting on what's happening with values in different types of properties in different locations at different times.
But what's your read on what the Herr and Todd White team are saying is what's likely to happen with property values, particularly at the $700,000 price point over the next 12 months?
Yeah, so I think, as we said, there's a really wide variety of markets.
And I think in some areas where $700,000 is sort of at the lower end of the market, the price point hasn't experienced such rapid growth.
It's considered fairly affordable.
And so, you know, as as perhaps people are being a little bit more cautious, they they may be looking more to those more affordable markets.
So, you know, they're probably going to see more sustained demand in other markets where we see 700,000 sort of being right at the peak of the of the market.
it um you know that's that's something that you may see a more significant softening um you know
as as people move into this more cautious phase and just you know to reiterate what we said at
the at the beginning you know there's a lot of talk about um values uh dropping significantly
um it's fairly clear that we have seen values come down in some markets like sydney and
Melbourne, but we've spoken about the mitigating factors, you know, the employment market is still
strong. If the RBA stance on increasing interest rates, you know, does help in, you know,
mitigating inflationary pressure. You know, most commentators are talking about that being a short
medium-term issue um i think market activity may drop off because people who don't need to sell
may may decide to postpone just to see what what happens next yeah yeah i think that's a a very
good read and of course as we always know there's always diamonds in the rough in the locations
because medium prices give us a flavor but the the devil's in the detail when it comes to property as
as you well know. So look, Kevin, I really want to thank you for these quite eye-opening insights
as always. And thanks again for your very generous time on the show today.
Oh, no problem at all. It's always a pleasure, Rishi.
Thank you, Kevin. Well, it's clear that there continues to be a significant shift
on how far and where your $700,000 will buy you in property, which is why property creates so
many opportunities, particularly if you're adopting a borderless approach that considers
the 11 million odd property spread across the 15 odd thousand suburbs and locations around Australia
because as I've always said it's never a question of when to buy property but it's always a question
of where you need to be buying so to check out the nitty-gritty details of every state and region
that talked about and touched on today but a lot more detail make sure you grab yourself a copy of
Heron Todd White's National Property Clock July 2022 Residential Property Report in particular,
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