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Episode Date: June 22, 2026

Mike Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser discuss the surprise at the news that Michigan head coach Dusty May is leaving for the NBA, and coverage of potential Giannis Antetokounmpo trade rumors, Trae Young's contract, and college baseball championships. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbon. We were both off Friday, and Frank told everybody we were on a kite sailing adventure. I'm Tony Cornhizer. That's not true. We were spear fishing. Was that what we were? Have you ever wanted to do spear fishing? No.

Not at all? No fishing. No. No fishing at all. No fish. Nothing? No trout fishing. You don't want to stand in the waiters and cast off and get a fish?

If I'm on the water, I want it to be the biggest yachts. imaginable. Is that right? So you don't want to actually be near the water. No, the natural water. Welcome to PTI, boys and girls. In today's episode, Wyndham Clark wins his second U.S. Open. Dusty May is leaving Michigan for the maverness.

And Serena Williams returns to singles at Wimbledon. But we begin today with Leonel Messi once again stealing the spotlight at the World Cup. One day after Cape Verdi and probably tied Uruguay and Lamin Yamal, Wilbon's boy, scored his first World Cup goal for Spain. Messi delivered once again for Argentina. Messi buried a one-timer against Austria to become the leading goal scorer in all of World Cup history with 17.

And then for good measure, he added a second goal late in Argentina's 2-0-0-win. This comes just days after Messi delivered a hat trick in Argentina's opener. Wilbon, what are we watching here? You know, Tony, I mean, I was thinking about this, you know, today. And it's like, is this what if we went back in time 28 years.

Is this what it would be like describing game after game of Michael Jordan in 1998 in the playoffs because it wouldn't be the Olympics they weren't as big quite as as the NBA playoffs, NBA finals which Jordan won at that age and stage and he was the goat easily then

maybe this is what is like watching messy now. Look, I'm new to this I know you resisted but I also know you admire brilliance at this level. no matter the sport. Sure. And so is this like watching Ali in 74? Is this, I mean, Jim Brown, who you got to see early in your life?

This is a big conversion for you, because you were not a messy guy. You were a Ronaldo guy, and you always said until Messi wins a World Cup, and then he finally won a World Cup. I just want to say this. This is a big deal right here on this set and in this country because of what Messi now means in this country. He is the most popular, most accomplished soccer player in this country because of the MLS, because of the pink jersey.

There's not a guy on the United States team who anybody knows comparatively to Messi, right? I mean, Messi is it, and now he's got five goals in two games on this stage. He's got five. And he's 39 or about to... It's bigger than the U.S. and where he's playing in Miami, to me. It's bigger than that.

Yes, it is. He's the dude. But I'm suggesting to you that Americans who like soccer even a little root for him all the time because we now consider him part of us. He plays us in this tournament. Yes, but I don't even, like I don't think most people realistically think we can win,

but Argentina could win. They've won, right? So they could win again. And right now, he not only has the most World Cup goals ever, he's been on the most winning World Cup teams ever. Like he is building brick by brick the case to be the goat against Pelle. If he wins a second straight, it's closer.

He won three and went to four. I understand, but the last person to repeat was Pele. That's the ghost that Messi is chasing. Right? Embopi could catch him in time. You're an Mbapi guy. I know. By the way, by the way, these goals at Messi's scoring,

there's not even a penalty goal. He's not. He is quicker. He missed the penalty goal. He is quicker. He's quicker to the ball. He's crafter when he gets. Everyone assumed that when he came to him washed, he was washed him.

You know why? Because everybody else was done. They never had a second bite at the apple, not Palais, not Beckenbauer, not Kroif. They never got back. That's right. He's back. Man, he never really went away. No, he's apparently not.

The pink jersey, though, that's your thing. I'm not into that. Let's move to Wyndham Clark winning the United States open yesterday at Shinnock Hills, despite shooting three over par, and despite a hostile crowd, rooting noticeably against Clark and for his playing partner, Scotty Sheffler. Clark went wire to wire and never relinquished the lead. This was Clark's second United States open victory,

the previous one coming in L.A. North in 2023. So Tom, what do you think of how he did it? And do you think this will change the perception many people have of him going forward? I tip my hat to Wyndham Clark. That was brutal out there. People were booing him. were rooting for his shots to go into the bunker.

It was so bad that the USGA removed a couple of people at one point. And let's be honest here, this is not the Ryder Cup in Beth Bay, just as an American trying to win the American National Championship. He converted like 66% of his scramble circumstances, which is fabulous. He made U.S. open parts, which are defined as getting up and down from 20 or 30 yards out. He put it great from 15 feet to 25 feet. 25. Par savers. All the time. All the time.

Let me get to the notes here. Okay. Scotty Sheffler was right next to him. Could have beaten him. Didn't beat him. Sam Burns, statistically, the best putter on tour, could have beaten him, missed by this much and he... And that changes everything, but did not beat him. And, I mean, I think you have to give him a lot of credit. His driver was lousy for a couple of days,

and he stayed in the holes time after time. We are both golf won. We care about every single thing to the nth degree that happens in a golf tournament, and I'm going to skip right over that because you covered it brilliantly. I don't care about any of that. I care about people on a golf course in New York booing the hell out of Wyndham Clark. Now, let's get to that. Because Wyndham Clark lives where I live a chunk of my life,

in the actual community. And he's not liked. And this is not just because he tore out a locker or slammed a locker. There was an apology. Some of it, but Tony, I told you before this, there's a reaction to him. Yeah. And he seems to have facilitated it somehow. I don't know him.

I never met him. Never met him. Never seen him. But there's this reaction to him, which is now a national reaction. It has gone from Scottsdale, Arizona, to the tip of the Atlantic Ocean where people say, I don't like this guy. This wasn't about Scotty Schaeffler. This was about him. No, it was partially about Scotty Sheffler

because people like Scottie Sheffler And on his birthday, he was going for the game I'm slayer. Anybody else out there, it would have still been the same reaction toward Wyndham Clark? I think it's about Oakmont, and I was happy to see that at least this time I heard him say, I'm sorry for that as opposed to I regret that. People ought to get used to him.

Do you know in the last three years, only Scotty Sheffler and Rory Macaroy have one more tournaments than Wyndham Clark. Wyndham Clark, we like to say that you can't win a tournament on Thursday. He can only lose it. He won it on Thursday. He went 64, Mike. It was the low round of the entire tournament.

It's hard to sustain this being the villain if you don't really want to be it, or you don't understand why people think you are that. Patrick Green seems to accept being that kind of villain. I think Wyndham Clark got up there and basically said, give me a break next time. All he can hope for, he's never going to be cheered the way Sheffler is. Maybe he'll turn it around. Maybe it goes neutral.

Maybe people say, okay. It matters to him, and he says, wait a minute, let me understand this. So I don't. You know what you do? You get out there and you do a friendly interview that everyone sees and you apologize and you try and go in a different direction. Now to Dusty May reportedly leaving Michigan to take over his head coach of the Dallas Mavericks. May just won the national title with the Wolverines. He is the first college head coach to leave for the NBA immediately after winning the title

since my old camp counselor Larry Brown left Kansas for the Spurs in 1988. Wilbon does this move make sense to you for both May and the Mavs? Well, certainly for the Mavericks. I mean, you got Cooper Flag, who's maybe 19 years old by now, who, you know, for 100 years of basketball in America after Ney Smith, would have been playing for a college coach like Dusty May. That's a great point for Dustin. The 19-year-old.

Maybe they think May they gets the best out of them. And so I think what you're seeing here is Kyrie Irving will be accommodated. He'll go to a contender. But you move him out. And look, you know I am completely and totally biased in favor of Masayu Jiri, who made this move. And I think we'll see, and I don't know, we didn't talk about this,

but I think you'll see, you can bring a haul in, you can still get something for Kyrie, a younger player who you think can grow with Cooper Flagg, and you think Dusty May is a developer, and we'll have the patience to do that, and there's no timeline for Dallas now. What are they?

Three, four years away from being a couple of years away? So I think, yes, I think it makes sense. So I have to be honest here. I have no physical sense of Dusty May. I know that he is a great college coach in his career is a world win. Listen to this. The last four years is 124 and 26. He went to the final four with Florida Atlantic, a school in Volga Results.

Nobody knows where it is. Went to the final four with it. You're a Volga guy. You don't know where it is? I do, but nobody else does. Then he goes to Michigan. He follows Joanne Howard in a terrible year, 8 and 24, and he goes in two years, 64 and 13. He wins a national championship.

This guy is a year. to college basketball. What the guy at Indiana, Kurtzignetti, is to college football. So I am surprised. This comes out of nowhere to me, and I take a different view of Dallas than you do. Dallas in recent years trades away Luca Donchich,

then trades away the guy they get for Luca Donchich, Anthony Davis. They fire their GM, they fire their coach. And let a guy go to New York who's done pretty well. Right, right. And Jaylon Brunson. So what they have now is Cooper Flagg I don't know anything else.

It's kids. So who do you want coaching kids? Why does he take this job? Does he just take the job from money? You also take it because, and I talk to all the time, a lot of college basketball coaches. Tony, they're confronting something that people have not confronted before. They've got to sit at living room tables

and not just talk about a kid. And let me see his bedroom. Money. Money, money, money, money, money. You're haggling with parents over how much you're going to pay their child to come to your school. This is real. So he doesn't want that in college.

A lot of guys don't want it. No, he had an out. He even said, he said the journey was better than the destination that we achieved. So why not go into the transfer portal? But here, who has, who's been great? Very few people coming from College of the Pros. Most people end up like John Caliperi or John B-Line, and not Larry Brown and Brad Stevens. And Billy Donovan.

Billy Donovan got close. He did. Yeah. But Tony, it's a new day. And this college basketball does not in any way shape, form resemble the college basketball. the college basketball of your mentor, Larry Brown, is too different. When I heard this today, I went, what?

I had no idea. Did you? No. You had an idea. No, no, no, I didn't have an idea. I had no idea. Let's take a break. It's stunning. Coming up, Serena Williams will play singles at Wimbledon.

Yes, she will. Raphael Devers refuses a pinch runner. Just waves them off. Get out of here, dude. I was really impressed, by the way, with Wyndham Clark, sticking to it. Windham Clark was great the whole time. All over the place.

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there's a Volvo for everyone. Learn more at Volvocars.ca. It's time to find out what the cat dragged in. I'll get the first one. Long as time. How's good. Are you excited, I know the answer to this? Are you excited to see Serena play her first singles in four years at Wimbled?

Damn right I am. Yes. I don't know if she's going to be any good. I don't. But Serena has sort of set this up. She's got these brilliant commercials that appeal to tens, if not hundreds of millions of people, about GLP and losing this weight and getting back in this condition that we, let's face it,

we've seen her dominate the world similarly before. We've seen her for years do that. And now she's back at 44 years old. She played these doubles matches. What did I say to you every day? And on your podcast, I said, this is, we're just waiting. That's right. We're waiting for the announcement.

And of course, you want to see Serena Williams at Wimbledon. You do. I know you do too. Sure. Sure. I mean, look, she's 40. years old. She has prepped for singles by playing doubles, which doesn't tell us anything. Nothing. Because you don't cover the court in the same way, right? She's unseated, unranked,

so she could end up playing the best woman in the world in the first round and then she's out. A 17-year-old phenom who can beat you. There are obvious questions. How much power does she have left? How much speed does she have left? There is historical precedent for this. Martina Navratilova at age 47. 47. In 2004, after being away for 10 years, not four years, enters the French Open. Loses in the first round. We knew that wasn't going to work. Then she goes to Wimbledon, destroys an opponent in the first round,

won and love, and then loses in the second round. That's what I could see with Serena. Here's what I can't see and what I know you can't see her winning the tournament. No, she doesn't win the championship. But I just want to see Serino Williams play a game. Yes, sure. And just look, if somebody asked me if he was healthy and he's just a matter of losing, weight or gaining muscle or something.

Would you like to see Tiger Woods again? You're damn right, I would. Not this version. I'll just tell you this. So Serena's much closer, we presume, to herself than... You know, it's the only one who wins the championship at this age, Tom Brady. He wins the championship. Was he 44?

He was in his 40s. Can he go corner to corner? Can she still? We've got to see. We've got to find out. We're going to find out. Baseball weekend, biggest baseball story from the weekend. Schwab's four home runs.

Bryce Harper's almost cycling twice. Or Raphael Devers trying to wave off a pinch runner. I'll leave Schwartz to you. I know he lived in your building. Thank you. I'm going to say it's Devers. This is fantastic. The relationship now we wonder about

between Devers and the college baseball manager who is managing the Giants. Because he sent in a guy to run for Devers. Let's understand. It's a one-run game in the ninth. He sent in a kid named Cox who steals bases. 162 stolen bases in four minor league years.

You want to take a shot at how many Devers has stolen in the last 10 major league seasons, 33. One in the last two years. It's the right move. The kid goes out there, Devers pushes him away. Get out of here. He didn't want to come out. The wrong move is? The manager shouldn't be at the other end of the damn dugout.

You want Devers out, then man up and walk your butt to the stairs. 100%. And stand there like Billy Martin waiting on Reggie Jackson. You are 100% right. Dude looking through the fence at the end of the dugout. That was chicken, you know what. So now, Devers, who had a fit to get out of Boston, now we wonder who picks him up at the trade deadline.

Wow. Because he's never been an average hitter for batting average, and his OPS is down. Can I talk about Schwab's four? Sure. Go ahead. Knock yourself out. Come on now. Lived in your building.

3, 4, 5. Yeah. I'm not going to give the name of the street, but people know. Yeah. Schwaber, oh, my God, I hate the Phillies. I don't particularly like Bryce Harper, though I acknowledge what a great player he is. It's hard for me to root for Schwerber playing with them, but he could go for 60-plus home runs. You know what the pace he's on?

73? No, 61. 61. I hope he quickens it. I hope he gets there. And I'm going to have to root for Schwerber because I love Kyle Schwerber. You know, your enmity towards Bryce Harper surprises me. He left your team.

I understand. You should have enmity. No, because we won, no. You won without him. It was pretty good. But he did for the cycling, almost one percent. You know how rare it is to get a cycle? Like four times he did.

But you hate him. No, he just. And you hate everyone in Philadelphia. He left your town. You hate everybody. That's enough email. Let's take one last break still to come. The Panthers add another kachuk.

A lot of kichucks. Joe Adele. He gets robbed at the wall. Ha! Turnabout. Ha! Well, he took a reback, didn't he? Love Schwerper.

Yeah. Swarber's great. If he had stayed in Washington, Washington would have kept that whole team. Happy time, people. Happy 42nd birthday, Dustin Johnson. DJ was the first big American golfer to sign with a Saudi Live Tour in 2022. Phil Mickelson was a bigger name, but he was in his 50s when he signed and no longer a threat to win.

DJ had won the 2016 U.S. Open and 2020 Masters and was a top 10 player. He has not won anything consequential since going to live. He finished T-32 at plus 6 at the Open in Shinnecock yesterday, but at least. he made the cut. The biggest name live players John Rom, Bryson DeShambeau, and Cam Smith did not. Neither did Brooks Kebka who signed with Live but left last year. DeCambo is the only current live player to win a major while on Live the 2024 U.S. Open at Pinehurst. DJ won a little something that's significant to me. Between $125 and $150 million reportedly, I'm going to take that payday and win a little less.

Happy anniversary, 2018 NBA draft class. Around this day, eight years ago. A crazy draft night saw the Atlanta Hawks and Dallas Mavericks draft Luca Donchich and Trey Young with the third and fifth overall picks, then trade them for each other. Later at number 11, the Hornets drafted, then dealt to the clippers. Shea Gilgius Alexander, who has become an MVP and a champion at Oklahoma City. Still later at number 33, Dallas drafted Jalen Brunson, now a champion in New York.

The first two picks in this draft, the Andre Aiton to Phoenix and Marvin Bagley to Sacramento, might not even be drafted in the top eight to ten now on a redo. Not over Jaron Jackson Jr., Mikhail Bridges or Michael Porter Jr., nope. We agree completely. Wizard, Mr. Wizard, who you drafted tomorrow night? It's tomorrow night, right about now. I'm going to take the kid from BYU. You are going to take the Bans.

Wouldn't you? I would. So what I'm asking. Happy trails to Ottawa for Brady Kachuk. The Senators sent their captain to the Panthers while he would join his brother, Matthew. Ottawa got three number ones and a number two in return. And while the senators look to the future again, the Panthers are clearly gearing up to make a run for their third Stanley Cup in four years after missing the playoffs this season. Brady and Matthew Kachuk won a gold medal together in

Milan and host a podcast together. And today their dad, Keith Kachuk, got named to the Hockey Hall of Fame. Good day for the Kichucks. How about Patrice Bergeron, Kerry Price, Peckorina, and Brian Burke, all also named to the Hall of Fame. Doesn't get bigger in that. Congratulations. Doesn't get bigger. And a bonus happy trails to a home run for Joe Adele. The Angels outfielder sent one deep to right field in Sacramento on Sunday.

A's right fielder Colby Thomas leaped and snagged it before getting an involuntary spinal adjustment. Ugh! The A's play in a AAA ballpark. That fence is so low. And what a weird season for Joe Adele. Back in April, he brought back three home runs in the same game, a record that will never be broken. And then three weeks ago, he took a fly ball off his beam that went over the fence

for a four-base error, and now this. You hate this ballpark. I love it. It's a launching pad. Yes, it's 80. 80 home runs a night. Good. 50 runs. You love home run derby, that phony junk. I do love that because that's an exhibition. This is better. No, this ruins the symmetry of the game. It ruins the record. Stop it. Let's go to the big finish. Fun, let's do it. Yadis will reportedly be traded before tomorrow night's NBA draft. Do you believe that? I do.

Jalen Brown, and the Heat and the Celtics are importantly the finalists, but Jalen Brown, we don't know whether he wants to go to Milwaukee or not. He seems to be conflicting reporting. Trey Young is going to sign a four-year, $212 million deal with your Wizards. Are you excited? I won't use the word excited, but I will say he is a statistic machine. He piles up numbers. The Hawks are trading two second rounders to the thunder for Aaron Wiggins, as that makes sense.

EASA's OKC, like $60 million plus in luxury tax? You can't. He's like that. Yankees ace, Cam Schlittler, had a career high 13Ks and Fridays went over the Reds. Are you impressed with that? I'm impressed with him. And I wonder how he feels about the fact that he grew up a Red Sox fan. That's going to be hard.

I mean, I was playing for the Yankee. Last one, UNC and Oklahoma in the rubber match for the men's college World Service and he got. I just like the fact that Oklahoma is unseeded. Carolina is like a five seed. Unseeded. Are you going to root for Oklahoma over Chapel Hill? You're not going to do that, are you?

You're not going to do that. We're out of time to try to do better the next time. I'm Tony Corny. I'm Mike Wilbon. Find us on the deuce tomorrow, knuckleheads. Yvette Eskadero. Watch it the big, big, big tennis tournaments will never again be as fun without you.

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