PTI - Seahawks Get Their Revenge on the Patriots!

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser discuss Seahawks winning the Super Bowl, Drake Maye struggles, Von crashes and Breezy Johnson wins downhill, UNC/Duke, Gotterup wins Waste Management + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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That's another reason I'm glad I decided not to compete again this show. Well, that's kindy. Not hogging all the medals for yourself. Have you ever worn an Olympic medal around your neck ever once? Yes. Heavy? No, I never have. Is it heavy?

Yeah, kind of heavy. Pleasant. Is it a good feel? It's transformational. Huh? You want to guess who's ribbon I wore? remember what I was? Local.

Local athlete. Who, who, who? Dominique Dawes. Dominique Thomas? Did it look kind of? Good on you because looks good on her. It looks great on Dominique. Welcome to PTI, boys and girls.

In today's episode, Drake May struggles. Lindsay Vaughn crashes and North Carolina beats Duke in the final second. But we begin today with last night's Super Bowl, a dull affair where Seattle's defense dominated New England's offense. The final score was 29-13, but the Patriots did not score a point

until the fourth quarter. They punted eight times, and at the end of three quarters, had only 78 yards of offense. Wilbon, we both had Seattle winning. How would you describe what you saw? Did you just say dull affair? Yeah, I did. Was it?

Ibid, copy. Yes. Okay. It was. But you know what, Tony, I didn't mind that as much. I know some people, they get all jacked up to watch the Super Bowl, and they got, you know, all kinds of feasts and Thanksgiving Part 2 and all that. I want to see a great performance.

And we saw one. To me, the Seahawks beat the hell out the New England Patriots. And, look, you know, going back to October, I had Seattle as my number one seed. I had the Rams. We had the Rams. And we were both. That's right. We're in the game because that's what it boiled down to.

And the way, we'll get to Drake May specifically, but that defense brought it. They were better everywhere. They were better offensively. I mean, the MVP is the best weapon in the game yesterday. They didn't have to ask Darnold to do too much because the defense did everything. So this was a beat down from the start, and I just give all the credit to Seattle, and I wasn't disappointment even though it was a dull affair. So what I would describe what I saw would be non-competitive.

At a little bit, maybe a minute into the fourth quarter, quarter when a touchdown was finally scored and Seattle went up 16-0. Nothing. I wrote you these exact words on the text, these exact words, game over, good night. And you texted back, it ain't over, you're familiar with the work of Mr. Sam Darnold. I did not waver. I went to bed. Sam Darnold was okay. He was not any better than okay. But he did not turn the ball over and he did not lose the game. And the defense was suffocating. The defense was a small little statistic here. In the last three games, Seattle has beaten the four. 49ers, the Rams, and the Patriots, who among them had 44 wins going into those games.

That's a lot of wins. And to me, this coach at Seattle, this kid who's 38 years old, it's about time he gets the kind of praise that we always give to young offensive assistance. It's not going to happen. Because he's a young defensive assistant. Well, it should happen. It should happen. Unless they are either unbelievably loud or cocky or obnoxious or something, they don't get the attention. at the offensive assistance get.

38 years old. Listen, I feel bad in this regard. It was a great NFL season, competitive, more so than we've seen in many years. It was a great playoff, and it ends with a thud. But, and I know you like this, it ends with old-fashioned football. Defense and running. Yes, defense and running, which I know that you like. Great punting.

By the way, this team, the Seattle team in three playoff games, was only behind one minute and 35 seconds. but the bandwagon team were not behind at all. They were not at all in the playoffs. Nobody knows what that means except me. By the way, you love great teams, and yet you're not singing the praise of Seattle. I will tell you why, very simply.

I mean, they don't have an identifiable name or face or star yet. They do not. They do not. You got time. Yeah, sure. I'm sure. Let's stay with the Super Bowl, but drill down, promised on Patriots quarterback Drake May.

The man who finished a close second in the regular season MVP voting looked ordinary, if not overwhelmed last night. He was sacked six times, had three turnovers. So what did you make of May's Super Bowl? I thought he had a bad game. As you're saying, sack six times and three turnovers, let me get this step. Going into the fourth quarter, he had passed for only 60 yards, he's 23 years old and it looked like the stage was a little bit too big for him.

that's fair to say. Now, it's not all his fault. The left side of his offensive line caved in. Seattle just overwhelmed them. There were times, I think just in the video, you could see that. His offensive linemen were being pushed into him. Now, you want to say, well, get rid of the ball quicker. Well, he didn't really have a lot of time. Now, yes, he missed some open receivers, and yes, he had a bad game. But, Mike, he's been sacked 20 times in four playoff games. That is indicative that the offensive line isn't doing its job fully in those things. get to the notes Seattle defense was terrific. In the last three games, they've beaten the number one, number two, and number 10 scoring teams in all of football. They gave up, they played the Rams three times.

The Rams are really good. They gave up an average of 28 points to them. In all their other games, they gave up an average of only 14 points. They were all over May, which is why May said, and I give them all the credit in the world for this particular quote, if you don't make plays, you end up crying at the podium. That was a great line. True words have never been spoken. Are you familiar with?

Of course you're familiar with. You might have covered this game. Mr. Tony Eason. Yeah. That was a brutal start. A brutal start. Yes. And a brutal result.

Yeah. And sometimes, and nobody wants to accept this anymore, because people don't want to see defense. The league doesn't want to see it, which is why they legislated out. The stupid sponsors who put on all those dumb commercials last night. Some of which are actually great.

They don't want to see it. They don't want to see it. They don't want to see offense. everybody, what do we just see about the offensive assistant coaches? They're all praise to the heaven. That's right. That's right. The Seattle defense beat the hell out of Tony Easton.

I mean, Drake May. They beat him to death. He had no time. People say he can get rid of the ball quicker. No, he can't. Because by the time he took a second step and planted, someone was in his grill. Well, one of his offensive linemen was backing up into him. Look, we're not going to make any comparisons to Tom Brady after this game, right?

No. It wasn't that fun. And it's not the kid's fault. But he's a kid and maybe he gets back, though Marino did not get back. No, he didn't. Drake May had a great season and a bad ending. What else he was supposed to say? He got beaten.

He did. And Friday, we both sat here knowing this was a possible outcome. Looking at that Seattle defense, looking at the struggles that New England had had in the playoffs and against some of the better teams they played. And that's exactly how it played out. New England's road to the Super Bowl. the last game they played was not even against the starting quarterback. So, you know, Seattle's Road was in the tougher conference with the toughest division.

It was. And they kept playing those things over and over. I still think Drake May's future is bright. It should be bright. It should be. It should be bright. Let's move to the Olympics and the spectacular and heartbreaking crash of 41-year-old Lindsey Vaughn, just 14 seconds into her run in the downhill yesterday morning.

Vaughn was screaming in pain. She was airlifted off the mountain and into surgery, where she reportedly had a broken leg. American skier Breezy Johnson won the event. Wilbon let us start with Vaughn. You saw her as courageous and heroic. When she announced she would race despite a torn ACL, what are your thoughts on how the story ended?

She was courageous and heroic. And I found out about the ending. I was doing something else. Getting a car wash, actually. And I said, I'll get back home. And I got streaming. I can always start at the beginning. That's an option.

And then I start getting texts about what exactly happened. And I said, you know what? Not only am I not going to start at the beginning, I'm not starting at all. I don't want to see this. It doesn't make her less courageous. It doesn't matter of fact, it makes her more. She knew this was a possibility of having to sustain this kind of pain, physical and emotional. I'm not going to use the word tragic.

But it was devastating. And I'm not good. I told you, I called you yesterday. And I said, I am not watching this. Yeah, I know. It's not hard to believe. But I accept it. You wanted to see Lindsey Vaughn go out like this?

I felt I had to. I knew I was going to talk about it and I had to. Look, I'm going to play Newspaper Man here for a second. Okay. Breezy Johnson won this event. She's only the second woman, American woman, of all time, to win the downhill. Lindsay Vaughn won it 16 years ago, I believe. So this is a huge deal.

But if I'm writing the headline to this story, the first deck of the headline says Vaughn crashes. The second deck says Breezy John crashes. Johnson wins because Vaughn's crash is in fact it's a bigger story. We talked about the star that Seattle doesn't have. Lizzie Vaughn's a big star. As a matter of fact, she's the biggest American star in the Olympics, right? She's our biggest star. She was going into it. I mean, it's two weeks ago. I felt the need to watch this. I waited for the replay. I sat around and waited for it and I watched it. And even though I knew what had happened, I was unprepared for what that was like. I was unprepared for what that was like. Look,

She is very courageous and heroic to try this. I feel that she did it, Mike, because she's 41 years old. She had been retired and she said, if I lay out of this one, I can't come back at 45. So I got to go now. I admire her. Right. I got to go now. Now, is she crazy?

Are they all crazy? Yes, their d'Avillers are all looms. Don't you wish to the territory. There's somebody close to her. Her dad said later, this is over. She's not doing this. I bet she told her that two days ago, too. Don't you wish somebody is sent to her, Lindsay, don't do this?

They're going 80 miles an hour. When a crash happens, it's going to be bad. Yeah, let me review this. You didn't want to see the replay, and you told me you thought that somebody should have gotten to her. Why? Why? Mike, what is the story you tell most? What's the story you tell most?

Let's look this up, because I wrote it down. What? Ronnie Lott. What did he do? Got his finger cut off. And you always brag about that. You always say, that's what he did to win. So this is what she did to win.

I was young. I was young and stupid then. Well, now you're all in the stupid. That's the way it works. Let's take a break. When we come back, a reaction to Seth Cimble's shot. It lifted North Carolina over Duke. And after Chris Gonerup's win Sunday,

do we have to start seeing him as a serious challenger to Scotty? Okay, Ronnie Lott. You thought Lott was crazy. We were reversed positions. Come on, now. Well, all downhillers are crazy. Let's find out what's on the minds of the minions in mail time. Let me get the first one and read it to you.

Let's see what we got from the millions. What did North Carolina's last second upset of Duke do for you? For me personally, it gave a little oomph to the college basketball season. I'm ready to go now. I spent the rest of the weekend if I wasn't watching golf or the Super Bowl, watching a lot of college basketball. I watch BYU. I'm confused.

on nights. I think it was also Saturday night. I'm going to watch Arizona tonight. Now, I'm into it now. And this shot, this shot was a scream-out moment. I was at a place you know at a bar, at a club at Columbia. Okay. And the cute who made that pass. The previous shot

is from Washington, D.C. Derek Dixon. It was a thrilling moment. Right? Is he a Gonzagicot? Yes, he is. Do you know his father? Like, you know, all the fathers of all the Gonzaggartians? Yeah, yeah, a little bit, but, you know. But here's the thing, Tony, that shot, We've seen that go the other way.

We saw Austin Rivers do that. What was that? 10 years ago. More than 10 years ago. But for that rivalry to go that way and end that way is wow. Okay. It was a great ending. It was a perfect pass across court.

It was a perfect shot. It's the only time Carolina led. It's everything you could ask for in a game. 14 years ago. Here's my butt. Here's my butt. Austin Rivers. Okay.

The court storming. This is a bad thing. I agree. John Shire. should not have to worry about the safety of his staff, his players, and his family. And another thing, what is North Carolina doing storming the court? They've won six NCAA championships. And this is the hated rival.

They beat Duke. Storm Duke. They beat Duke hundreds of times. So what should you do? They knocked Mike Chishefsky into retirement. Should the fine be three times? I think it was 50 grand in the ACC. Should the fine go to 150?

No, there has to be a rule as to when you can, if it's essential, to the college experience, and I'm willing to to grant that. There has to be a time rule where you have to wait two minutes or five minutes because the court is still going to be there, or else you forfeit. They have to have teeth to it. They have to get the kids off the court to go back for the final four tenths of a second. I understand that,

but it was, we shouldn't have that. No. Shouldn't have. I mean, don't gin up the rivalry to where it gets crazy. I'm hoping there's no video of me storming the court for Northwestern Purdue. What? One game that they won that year? We beat Purdue twice. Whoa.

With Zach Hiti? One ranks each time. Wow, good for you. And made the tournament. Good for you. So that. What do? Not as well.

Okay. As well as that. Do we need to start taking this Chris Godorup kid seriously as a guy who could challenge Scotty Schephler's recent dominance of the PGA tour? Okay. I may have watched every stroke of this tournament for at least three days. I did too. I was going back and forth during the playoff. I'm going back and forth with the Super Bowl.

The beginning of the Super Bowl. The Deke Matsuyama is a great player. He could not find the fair way off the tea. Twice. Only twice all day. And then at the tee shot on 18 in regulation and the tea shot on 18 in the overtime, he had terrible shots. So I felt bad for him in that regard.

Godd'Rup is very good. He is now ranked fifth in the world. As my son says, ball speed doesn't lie. He hits at 185 miles an hour. Neither does it win him. He hits at 315 in the air. Right? But if you're asking me about Scotty Schaeffler, come on now. Scotty Schaeffler in this tournament was two over on the first day.

And the last three days was 17 under. Goderup was eight under on the last three days. My feeling is... Is it possible? He's in the rearview mirror? I don't know. Things are larger than they appear. Yeah.

Also than they appear. Godorup has four. Maca Roy has five. Scotty Sheffler has 14. So slow down, Sparky. I would just say this. I, you know, I don't think. think I'm not willing to use the name Tiger Woods in a relationship to Scotty Sheffler.

And so some people do that, and I just go, shh, because Scotty Sheffler has not changed the history of golf. Oh, and he never will change the history of golf. What did he just be key? He may get the, he's on this, right? Tiger Woods had, there were cultural implications as well. That too. That too.

Yeah. So all I'm saying is, Gara, we, you and I started asking each other a year ago, who the hell is this kid? He's really good. Rutgers. Yeah, and he took an entry year and went to Oklahoma player of the year. Here's his change golf in that dramatic of fashion. Arnold Palmer popularized golf and Tiger Woods is something that we had never seen. I'm not including anyone else.

No, you're not, but people speak this way and I just want to smack them. Don't ever do that with Scotty Schaeffer. Not yet. Not for about three more years. And not yet with Goder-Up vis-a-vis Scotty Sheffler. That's enough email. Let's take one last break still to come. Your boy, Damien Lillard returns to the end.

NBA in a curious capacity. Yeah, kind of. Could number one Arizona? I asked you about this, get his first loss of the seasons tonight. So now you're watching? Yes. You're into college I'm into it. Okay. But you're not into the Olympics? No. You got to get into the... The skating. Get the skating off the air! What about the skiing? What about the blob swim? What about all that stuff? I love Bob Slade. You don't like speed skating? Yeah, I do. Okay. It's only one thing I don't like. It dominates the air. Happy time people. Happy 23rd birthday, Cooper Dijin. The Eagles second year cornerback made first team all pro this past season after 64 solo tackles and 16 deflected passes.

Dijin was drafted by the Eagles in the second round out of Iowa in 2024 and had just one interception as a rookie. But what an interception it was. Dijin picked off Patrick Mahomes in the second quarter of the Super Bowl and ran it back 38 yards for a touchdown and six of the Eagles four. 40 points in their 40 to 22 win. Man. That game was played on Dijin's 22nd birthday, making him the first player since fellow

Eagles, Steve Van Buren, to score a touchdown in the championship game on his birthday. Granted, a limited opportunity pool. Shills you also, how times have changed. Steve Van Buren's birthday was on December 28. That's when the season ended. The NFL now wants to just preoccupy you until Memorial Day. And by the way, Van Buren, did you know he led it all the Russian categories that mattered when he retired in the early I wasn't aware of that but he was a great star with the eagles he was a

great star about that happy anniversary billy tubs this is posthumous but on this day 37 years ago while coaching oklahoma tubs grabbed a court side microphone at the lloyd noble center to address outraged sooners fans who were seeing their team losing to big eight rival missouri attempting to calm the storm tub stated quote the referee requests that regardless of how terrible the officiating is Do not throw stuff on the floor, unquote. Crowd erupted. Tubbs was teed up. OU rallied to beat Missouri 112-105.

Tubbs was a basketball lifer, compiling a 641 and 300 coaching record. He went over 100 games at three different schools. Oklahoma TCU and his alma mater Lamar, whose court is named the Billy and Pat Tubbs court in honor of the coach and his wife. You've been to Norman, Oklahoma, right? I have.

You know how big and how omnipresent the university is? Yes. When they put the thunder there, when they expand, they put the Thunder NBA, I just thought they'd be a footnote. They could never, you know, measure up to the university. Wrong. Well, oh my God. I think if they put them in as a football team that would have happened, but that was a basketball. Okay, maybe so.

An official happy trails to the Seahawks for offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak. After winning the Super Bowl, Kubiak confirmed last week's reports that he's the new head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders saying, quote, Hell yeah, I'm going, I'm fired up about it, unquote. Seattle's offense ranked third in point scored at eighth in yards under Kubiak in his first season with the team. The 38-year-old is the son of former NFL quarterback Gary Kubiak, who won a Super Bowl as Broncos head coach in 2015. And his first challenge may be mending fences with Max Crosby. Our friend Jason Lockenforer reports that the star pass rushes reps have been telling teams that Crosby will never play for the Raiders again. So about the Kubiak for a second.

The dad. You know who he backed up a few times going to Super Bowl games, although a loser? I'm going to guess it's John Elway. John Elway, three times. How about that? John Elway went to five. And people don't even acknowledge John Elway. Sure they do.

They talk about these dopes. Sure they don't acknowledge John Elway. One update, Lindsay Vaughn said in a statement just now that her ACL injury had nothing to do with her crash and that she sustained a complex tibia fracture, which is stable, but will recover. require surgeries to fix. She's still heroic. It was a great try, didn't you think? She's heroic. Yeah. I'm just not watching it. You know, you're not watching it. And you'd wanted her not to do it. I'm weak. But Ronnie Lott, you said cut his finger off. Let's go to the big finish. The Thunder gets Jalen Williams back tonight against the Lakers, but Luca remains out. What's the bigger deal?

Getting J-Dubbs back. Oklahoma City needs to get rolling a little bit here. Luke will be back in time. Not going to win 80? Blazers star Damien Lillard will participate in the three-point contest. You like that? I do. I mean, he's a star and people would like to see him, and he's won this before. Don't put him in. Third ranked South Carolina beat number 19 Tennessee by 43. Tennessee coach Kim Caldwell said, quote, I have a team that will quit on you,

and you can't do that in big games, unquote. Your thoughts. We're only a month before March Madness, and they aspire to stuff. Can they get that, can they get that team back? That's harsh. That's harsh. That's harsh thing to say. NFL.com reports Derek Carr could come out of retirement.

I know he's retired. If the right team, the situation presents itself, you're surprised to hear that? He's a professional football player. He was just playing last year. Yeah, he's not surprised. Last one, number one, Arizona, number nine, Kansas night at Kansas. Who do you got? I'm moved to Arizona, but Bill Self in Kansas.

At home, they'll win in that game. We're out of time. We'll try to do better than next time. Welcome to the world, Renan Lerman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Congratulations. I'm Mike Wilbon. Same time tomorrow, knuckleheads.