Puck Soup - A Look Back at 1998

Episode Date: September 12, 2018

Greg and Dave travel back to 1998 for a look back at hockey and pop culture and nonsense in this special episode.  

Sticks and hits and goals and saves and slapshots and goons. We've got sportly commentary to what if you commute. We also cover movies, TV shows, it's in tunes. It's your weekly bowl of Hockey and Nancet. Pogsoup. I'm Greg Wichinsky of ESPN. And I'm Dave Lozo. Also of ESPN.

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I mean, you know, this podcast is not owned by ESPN, as everyone can fucking tell. Why don't they advertise on the podcast? We should really talk to them about that. We should get me Bob Eager on the phone. That's a conversation. You know that podcast you just let us do, even though we don't work? How would you like to pay us more money on the side to advertise? Mr. Iger, I just want to say, what a bold move splitting up Infinity War like that.

But have I got a prospect for you? Let me tell you about a little podcast called Puck Soup. What is Infinity War II? Oh, by the way, always late, Katie Nolan. It's probably on the air by the time we do this one, right? September 5th is when it debuts. It's on Wednesdays. You can enjoy it.

Infinity War. The next one's summer, right? The way it works. The next movie, I think, is Captain Marvel, who will then be in the next Infinity War. Oh, Captain Marvel's going to like save the day. If you remember the post-credit sequence in Infinity War, right.

When Sam Jackson, he's trying to call Captain Marvel on his magic beeper. That's the, that's what the logo is at the end of that movie. The person he's never called in a decade of being Nick Fury. Right. Suddenly it's like, oh, there's one moment. Yeah, I know. Captain Marvel takes place in like the 1990s, I think. And like, fucking New York was in.

Oh, they set it back to the 90s. Yeah. Wait, so how was she in the? current because she's off in space somewhere, but the point, I was going to, but are they going to age her 20 years forward? No, she's in space. Like, she doesn't age or whatever. I don't fucking know, but hold on to fucking suck. I don't know. I don't know. I assume she's in space, but listen. The point is that you're, again, he's using his beeper to call her. His beeper? It was a beeper. Oh, I didn't even notice. Oh, so you're saying that's post-credit scene is in the 90s?

No, I'm saying that is him calling out to space or whatever she is. Okay. But again, like New York was attacked by an alien armada. Right. And at no point was he like, man, I gotta get my brain. Right. Call him Captain Marvel. Because you feel like if Captain Marvel's in space, she's already like there. Again, this is... Iron Man doesn't need to go up there and do this thing.

This is the problem with superhero movies because essentially, like once Superman flies around the world to make it go backwards to save Lois Lane, you know, what are the stakes for any of this shit now? General Zod blows up the White House. Fire around the fire on the beach. I'll tell you right now

When was the first movie? It was the Hulk movie, right? Like, 04? Is that what it goes back to it? Are you talking about like for the Marvel Cinematic Universe? The first Marvel Cinematic Universe movie was Iron Man. And then the Incredible Hulk, the Ed Norton one was the second one. So that was like 10 years ago.

Would it be great if like they dangle people along for like 12 years? And then this conclusion is just Captain Marvel flying around the earth. Takes us back in 2007. You're just sitting in the theater like, what? Now, listen, this is a special episode of Puck Soup. We don't normally do theme episodes, but for various and sundry reasons, we're doing a theme episode. So if there was a lot of news that broke since the last Puck Soup, and we're not talking about it. Just know that all our takes were awesome and great.

Yeah, they're all great. But this is a specific special episode of Puck Soup dedicated to a specific year. And that year is 1998. It's looking back 20 years back. in 98. 98. In hockey, we're going to look at the 98-99 season as we were about to enter the 2018-19 season. But to answer your question, Dave Lozo, that you didn't ask, what was the top grossing superhero movie of 1998? Meteor Man. Yes, Meteor Man was a $200 million film from memory.

No, the top grossing superhero movie, and we'll get to the the other movies later on in the show. Give me, give me, like, a clue, like 98. I'll give you a quote. Okay. Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill. Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill. Is it Batman and Robin?

Is Arnold Schwarzen there saying that? Some motherfuckers are always trying to up skate, ice skate up blank. Dude, do, do, do, do, do. And this is a superhero movie? I said, anus. This is a superhero movie in 98. The answer is, okay, you want another hand? Yeah.

Amongst the cast, oh, let's do it this way. We'll do it Doug Love's movies game. Okay. I'm going to name cast members from the film, and I'm going to see how far we can go until you get it. Are you going top to top to top? I'm going to give you the top one, two, one, two, three, four, five, six. This is top six. Okay, ready?

Here we go. This is the top grossing film of 1990. This is the top-grossing superhero Oh, okay, okay. Udo Kier. Udo Kier. No, next one. Donald Logue, a puck soup favorite.

Donald Logue was in this movie. Donald Logue. In Bushie Wright. Now we're going to get to some names you might recognize. And I'm sure everybody in the Puck Soup audience already knows what it is. Spawn? No, close.

Chris Christopherson. Blade? Blade. That's a superhero movie. It's a fucking superhero movie. Oh, get out of here. Oh, get out of here. No one has ever called a superhero movie.

That's objection to your honor. All due respect. That is, I guess Blades in like a comic or something, right? Blade was a comic. I didn't know that. I will say that IMDB listed as action horror. See? You're making up to you.

All right. Look, if this is how this quiz is going to go, I guess I was going to say I was going to leave, but I really can't. I'm contractioned. I'll be in the beach. Superhero movie gross. Now what, okay, superhero movies at the box office. According to IMDB.

Let's get real. Find. Yep, Blade is listed on the superhero movie grosses on IMDB. So fuck, fuck right off. Blades a hero, not a superhero. I mean, like if you're a vampire in your food. You know who heroes are? EMTs are heroes.

Policemen are heroes. The troops. The troops. Okay, so then I want to say that, the highest grossing movie was lone survivor. Because those men were superheroes. We're going to get to that later. 1998, look back.

98-99 NHL season. Oh, then we're doing hockey. Okay. Yeah. Now, this was a very interesting season. We'll start off and get right to the end of it. This was the Dallas Stars over the Buffalo Sabres in the Cup final. That's 1999.

Was it? Yeah. Remember because the Devils won in 2000? They beat the Stars. They lost 2001. That was the Br. What did you, can you take me back to what a younger Dave Lozo thought about the Brett

Hull skate and the crease? Oh, I still think the same thing I thought then. What? Like, he was using the crease. The whole continuation thing wasn't a thing until after the game they were like, well, it was all part of the same. It was a real making shit up as they go along moment. Yeah, that's the NHL.

Yeah, they do. That rule was horseshit. I never really understood it. I understood it, but like, it just, It wasn't, it didn't do anything. Like there were too many plays where, you know, skate was in the crease, and it was just a backdoor tap in, and there was no interference. Like, I got it, but it was just bad.

In 2009, Chris Johnson, friend of the podcast, former Puck Soup guest, along with his dad. Oh, yeah. Talk to Brett Hull about the skate in the crease. Now, Hull's foot was in the crease as he fired a rebound past Buffalo's Dominic Khashik. My fucking God, Dominikaschak was one of my single favorite players in all of sports. But can you imagine if we got a hashik game? game seven out of that? That game would have kept going?

Yeah, this was triple overtime of game six. Back when games went triple over time. Many thought this was a no-no, unaware that the league had circulated a private memo. This is fucking peak NHL. Right. Colin Campbell sent the need. No, it wouldn't have been an email. It would have been like a mass fax, right?

At that point? Cool. You think Colin Campbell was using an email at that point? That was a fax. That was a fax. How do I put this paper inside of this here machine to send it out to people? I got to admit, I didn't know there was a secret memo. A secret memo.

Unaware, the league had circulated a private memo earlier that season, clarifying, a skate could be in the crease if the player was in control of the puck. As a result, the goal stood. Some fans of the Sabres still believe it shouldn't have. But he wasn't in control of the puck. Dominic Hasich stuck his leg out. I made a save. Here's what Hull said in a conference call in 2009.

We all knew that they had changed the rule, but obviously the NHL decided they weren't going to tell anybody but the teams. Right. They changed the rule to say if you have control in the crease, you can score the goal, and that's exactly what it was. But nobody knows that. You can tell people that a million times, and they will just not listen. Again, the guy who scored the goal knows it was bullshit. The only fucking league in existence that passes a major rule clarification or change on the sly. Because they didn't.

down low. Because they didn't. They just said that afterwards when... So you're... Oh, this is like your big Roswellian conspiracy theory. Like what they told people was it was like, we didn't announce it, but we did review it. Like, I don't think that's what happened, but I don't know, whatever. Sorry, Buffalo. This is the painful Buffalo bonus podcast. Yeah. Welcome Buffalo. Right. I think they would... And then, of course, for those who don't know, I mean, and we have a lot of younger listeners here. So, less than two days after the Dallas Stars won the Stanley

Cup in the third overtime on a goal from inside the crease. Less than two days later. The NHL. So wait, wait, wait. So a day. Is that the time? What was the name? What was the name of, uh, of, uh, fucking, uh, um, Giamati's book and Sideways.

It was, oh, I don't remember. Wait, hold on. I'll, I'm going to look it up. Vant for a second. It was less than two days. So would. It was like the day after yesterday. Oh, that's the Jake Gyllenhaal movie.

Fuck, I forget the name of it. Oh, wait, wait, wait, Snow comes down and tennis queen where, I got it, I got it. Tennis track on his street. Where it is, yes. Miles' book in Sideways is called The Day After Yesterday,

and then Maya goes, oh, you mean today? He's befuddled by it. Sideways is one of my single favorite movies of all time. I've seen parts of it. You never seen Sideways the whole way through? Never seen it. I was, I get bored.

It's like Thomas Hayden Church Young, Paul and Giamati to talk to the girl at the bar or whatever. As a commuzgingly writer who loves wine, it's relevant to my interests. Yeah, so the NHL and their infinite wisdom, less than two days after the stars won the cup, Gary Bettman, NHL commissioner said,

so they eliminated the use of video replay to determine crease violations on goals, shifting the responsibility to on-ice officials. Gary Bettman, according to New York Times, said the rule change was made by the board of governors, and it had nothing to do with Brett Hull's disputed goal against Buffalo. Complete coincidence. That's what was made from a desire to regain some of the time in spontaneity lost to review.

So in 1998, the NHL decided, independent of this giant fucking raging controversy that angered all of Buffalo and most of hockey, that they wanted to get rid of this mechanism because of a desire to regain some of the time and spanishing. and spontaneity. Meanwhile, if you score a goal after a whistle like Colton Sizzins did, that was spontaneous. Said Gary Betman. That's not legal still. Said Gary Betman in 1998. To rely on replay too much isn't good.

The fact that so many people didn't understand the rule and how it was applied in that situation that you had a controversy on a correct call. Simply cemented the fact that there was a better way to do it. Here's the thing. That was a bad rule even when it was enforced correctly. Right. The fact, it wasn't that, it wasn't that. People weren't mad about the rule at that point.

They were mad about the fact that Brett Hall had the puck. Yeah. He shot it on net. Hasheg made the save. His skate went in the crease. Got the puck back again and scored with his puck with his skate in the crease before the puck. That was the issue. That was the issue.

It wasn't all the other ones where you were just like, oh, God, what a dumb rule. It was because they didn't. Yeah. Why are we doing this? Why are we making me mad here? We're doing this because 20 years later, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that manhel, which in 1998, said that to rely on replay too much isn't good, reviews fucking everything. And they give the goddamn referees an iPad, or a Nintendo switch or some shit to review shit. Now, granted, betmen is consistent here.

Mm-hmm. Uh, he does put the power in the hands of the on-ice officials. Oh, wait, no, they took that away to. Which they, they mean, again. Again, if you're going to review stuff, oh, God, boy, this is, this is. Yeah, I know. Can we do more movie guessing? No.

The Blade with Jessica Buell and Ryan Reynolds was on the other day. I don't know why they show that one. That's not a good movie. Now, here's some other stuff that happened in the playoffs that year. Dallas over Colorado, Buffalo over the Leafs, 4-1. Man, Hachuk was a Beast. Who's the Leafs goalie that year? Was it Felix Popman?

Glad you asked. The 1990, 99. 9899, 99, Toronto Maple Leafs. Your playoff goaltender that year, Curtis Joseph. Oh, right, Curtis Joseph. Your leading score that year, Matt Sundy, number two,

Stumpy, Steve Thomas. Really? Yeah, he was the number two score. Because I remember. Well, here we go, here we go. Who was the leading score for the Buffalo Sabres in 9899? Keeping in mind that that was basically Dominic Hachick and a bunch of guys. Was it?

Oh, here we go. Michael Pecka. Oh, God, you're so close. Michael Pecka, 24-year-old Michael Pecka, was second on the team with, and again, keep in mind, this was the heart of the lockout years. Is it Jeff Sanderson? No, it was not. He was 10th.

Oh, really? Michael Pecko was second in Sabres scoring with 56 points. Yeah. The leading score for the Buffalo Sabres that year with 40 goals, put 6-6 points. It was an Alexander McGilney. It was Miros Chattam. Oh, Miro Chatan. only he had had another six

to that point total. Mark of the Beast. Miro Chatan, Michael Peckle, Michael Grossick, Curtis Brown, and Dixon Ward. Are your leading regular season goal scores of the Stanley Cup runner-up, Buffalo fucking Sabers? Hockey was rough back then.

I don't even remember Michael Grosick. I couldn't picture him. Now we're getting into it. As you said, hockey was rough back then. I remember St. Thomas having a goal waved off when he was a devil. There were three players in 1998-99

who cracked the 100-point plateau. Can you name them? Three players. One of the east, two in the west. Yager? Yager is correct. Yager is your point leader, your assist leader, and he had

127 points that year. Yomir Yager, Art Ross Trophy winner, and also your Hart Trophy winner for 2008-99. Sackick. Sackick was 50 at 96 points. I'll give you the biggest hint I could possibly give you here. Forgeberg?

No, he was fourth. Damn it. But the other two guys in this point total list that cracked the century mark. The only two guys to get over 100 points were both on the same team. And you said it was two in the east, one in the west? So you got the east, Pittsburgh. Oh, so both guys are in the west. Teammates.

Teammates. And that's not Ford's. Recent Hall of Fame. And Sackick. 98-99, Western Conference. Mike Madano? Timu Salani and Paul Correa, my friend. Members of the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim.

Now, Salani led a league with 47 goals. Number two that year, it was a tie between Yager with 44, Yashin with 44, Tony Amante with 44. Tony Amante was always a very interesting player for me. Tony Amante is a guy I always think of when the Rangers won the cup because they trade it for all the guys for Tony Amante for those who don't know was traded to Chicago for Steve. With the rights to Matt Oates,

I assume that's a relative of Adam of some sort. Brent Gretzky to Adams. Matt Oates sounds like a like a like a hipster coffee place or something. I don't know why. It's a hipster oatmeal place. Have you had oatmeal milk yet? I haven't tried it. I've heard things.

Oat milk? No, I have not. Oatmeal milk. It's maybe. Yeah. So Ruby and I were at Starbucks the other day, and they have a new drink that is like a plant-based frozen coffee slurpee. And you can get it chocolate or you can get it like almond. Oh, that sounds good.

So we walk up at the counter and Ruby's like, yeah, I'll get the cacao plant-based frozen slurpy fucking thing. Sure. And the woman at the register. She has a foul mouth. I can see your thing. You need a fucking cacao. The woman at the register leaned. over and she goes, you don't want to get that.

Yeah, right? I know, right? And here's the thing, right? And I'm not going to say where it was for fear that the Starbucks people will go after this hero, this heroin. The more of those that they sell, the better chance that it's going to stick around. And she literally is like, we don't want to sell them because if they don't sell, they'll get rid of them. And they're fucking atrocious. There's been a lot of that.

There's like some plant-based burger, I feel like. We've talked about that. I had the White Castle version. Oh, that's what it was, the White Castle. It's the impossible burger. Just put, just put some gross stuff in your body like once a week. Don't I'm just, you know what I mean? Like, have a burger. It's fine.

By the way, we talked about it on the Patreon mailbag, if we'll listen to it. No, we, the thing about eating the plant-based impossible burger is that eventually it's going to get to a situation where, like, all the cows are dead. And that's the only thing. Like, when we get to interstellar time and the world is so hot that the cornfield just burst into flames. I haven't seen it. Like, all it's going to be left is, like, fucking the impossible burger. By the way, amante to the hawks for Mato and Noon. Matoon, not Nune.

I thought the Larmor was involved in that true. No, no, no. By the way, they call it the impossible burger because after you eat it, it's impossible to make it to the toilet in time. There's no way that things stays in your body, man. That's just terrible. The leader in penalty minutes. Oh, Jesus. Tidomi?

For 1998, 1998-99. Not Tidomi. The five, the Polish hammer. Christopher Christopher Olyva With 240 Loved him Patrick Cote

of the National Predators Don't remember 242 Peter Worrello The Florida Panthers Peter Worell I remember Peter Worell

Jeff Odgers Of Colorado at that point And number one Rob Ray With 261 Rob Ray I don't think him is a PIMA

That makes sense No no No he was a Pymper Yeah Oh God fucking Yeah Rob Ray is is interesting

Because he was Like a psychotic player 1990 to 1999 for Rob Ray, 350 penalty minutes, followed by 354 penalty minutes, but in 91,99, I'm sorry, 91.92, 354 penalty minutes did not lead you the league. The league leader in penalty minutes that year was Mike Paluso,

kind of a trotic story, 408 penalty minutes that year. I know, right? I just thought of, how come we don't call the person who leads the league in penalty minutes the winner of the PIMS Cup? Why is that not a thing? Yes. Trademark.

Don't try and steal that. Just thought of it now. And yet another reason why you and I should write the fucking NHL awards. Because we will not hire a magician to do a shitty trick that fails and leave Ange Kopatar confused. No, but we would hire a magician to mock the magician. Right. To do a magician bit. Yeah.

Why don't they have Will Arnett doing the magician bit? That's my question. Like, he's a hockey fan. He's a magician. He's a magician. I mean, he's a magician on TV. No, wait. No, wait.

What's the line? Oh, it's trick. Right, right. Isn't it tricks? Their illusions, Michael. All right. Let's go to some awards for 98, 99 for the National Hockey League. So Yager won the MVP.

Yager won the heart. Yeah. He had the most points. That's how it works. And he won the Art Ross. Now, I know what you're saying. De Norris. Who were the other heart contenders that year?

Well, it's a good thing you asked. You already got through the points of years, so I don't think much has changed in the last 20s. Yager was first, Yash and second, Hoshik third. Haschik third. Hachik could have won MVP every fucking year. But again, it's like, you know. When Michael Pek is second on your team in points at 54, you should probably... Yeah, what the fuck is that?

How did not win? You're right. He only had four first place votes. The Vesanotropy that year, obviously, is Hachik. Although, curiously did not get the majority of first place votes. Curtis Joseph did that year. Chris Joseph did not ever win a Vezina. One of the reasons why people were kind of wondering if he's ever going to be a Hall of Famer.

played in the Hashibradur and Wa era, basically. So that's, that's, that's, that's, yeah. It's like, it's like, why don't you have a Norris? I'm like, oh, fucking Nick Lydstrom was alive. Have you met Nick Lydrom? Yeah, right. So Zeno Char only has one. The Calder, the Calder trophy that year, and, and this was actually one that in, in hindsight,

I, I thought this was a mistake. Give me the team. Give me the team. It's Colorado. 99. Yelaneduk. You see, that's amazing because he should have won. No, the Calder went to Chris Drury.

That year. And he didn't have, he had 44 points. Again, it's the trap years. Keduk had 48 points. But he wasn't. But he wasn't, he never played in the Little League World Series. He was like Todd Frazier before Todd Frazier became a thing where now we're never Todd Freer. That's right.

Remember that Tim? He stood on the field at Yankee Stadium next to Derek Jr.? Yes, we all remember that. Yep. The tap, yeah, we've seen the video. Chris Drury. Yeah. That's right.

Everybody held up those signs that said, thank to you. What did they say again? What was the respect to you? You. Oh, no. It was just respect with like a two in there somewhere. I forget which letter. I forget what, yeah, was it the S became a two?

Wait, so Colorado had Forsberg, Sackic, and then like two of the three best rookies in the NHL, and they didn't get out of it. Oh, they got to the conference finals. Okay, that's fine. The 98-99 Colorado Avalanche. How did they lose to that? Forzburg, Sackick, Clausew, Deadmarsh, Haydook, Drury, Kaminsky, Olzellinch, Theo Fleury.

Adam Foote Patrick Wai and goal Dallas had a really good team though The Western Conference final was clearly this stuff Dallas was like a fucking super team at that point Dallas for those who don't remember the Dallas stars that season Top top scores Madado Hall Newindike Littenden

Darien Hatcher Future Hall of Famer Sergey Zubov Darrell Sador Stefan Robyn Bruner Paddy Verbeek Grant Marshall Darian Hatcher And then of course Eddie Belvoir and goal That's a fucking stack team as you're ever going to find

Was Robid out on that team? He was on that team right wasn't he? No He was not, I don't think. No. Robe. No. No. No. The Ice Time leaders for that Dallas Stars team were fucking phenomenal.

Hatcher, Zubov, Matt Vichuk, and Sador were top four. Matt Vichuk. Oh, Sador. That's the good guy. That's your guy. I was thinking of. Yeah, that's a great. And then Sean Chambers was the bottom pairing defenseman.

Former Devils great. Sean Chambers. Former Devils great Joe Noondike, too. I remember back in the day, because that was like when I was in high school and the devil was made their, because this was like, I didn't really understand Lou Lamarillo at that point. at that point. And it was like, the devils are going to go for the cup. But it's like, what are they going to do? They're going to trade for Sean Chambers and Dan Cole. And I'm like,

who? Who are Sean Chambers? That was me in 95 when like the devils were like, they're like, they like traded for Neil Broughton. And then it's like, my dad had to tell me who Neil Broughton was. Yeah. I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, this guy. I'm like, we had fucking Bernie Nichols last year. We didn't win. Right. My dad's like, no, you don't understand. Remember Aaron Broughton

when you were a kid? I'm like, yeah. And he's like, it's his brother. I'm like, okay. He's a Murphy or he's a Sutter. I'm like, yeah, he's not a Sutter. I don't give a shit. I don't know who these people. I don't know. The Norris went to Al McKinnis,

then of the St. Louis Blues, over Lydstrom. I don't let me guess. I wanted to guess. 54 first place votes from McKinness and not a single one for Lidstrom, by the way. Well, I believe Nick Lidstrom's not Canadian, so why would he get votes, Greg? Uri Lettin won the Selke. One of the few times at Winger has won the Sillet. Selky in the last 20 years.

So the Jack Adams went to Ken Hitchcock? That's a good question. I don't think they have to, do they have to, I have to find out who won the Jack on the other page here. Hang on. The other page. The Jack Adams went to, I don't know, it's not listed here, but I'm going to find out for you. What kind of podcast is this? Jack Adams, 1998, 99, went, of course to.

Oh, Linda, you're off maybe instead because he had such a bad team. Oh, hang on here. That's how it usually works. the goaltender wins you to Jack Adams, right? So Linda Ruff probably won it. 9889, Jacques Martin of the Ottawa Senators. So they had the second best player in Aki and Alexa Yashin basically that year? Top five scores for the Ottawa Senators in 9899.

This is going to make a lot of people scratch their heads. 9899. So obviously Yashin. Alfredson was 8th. Oh, I was going to, I'm glad you said. I was going to guess the. Your top five scores for the Ottawa Senators. Nope, he's not there anymore.

98-99. Yashin's number one. Is it Chara? No, you're never going to get it. No, it's that bad. Andres Johansson. Nope, wasn't going to guess that. Magnus Ardvinson.

No. Andres Dackle. I remember him. Sean McKeckern. Oh, yeah. And then Yashin had the fucking Taylor Hall, Nathan McKinn in year that year. He had 94 points.

Next highest was McKeckern at 56. So you should have won the art that year. I remember Sean McKeckerman being really awesome in like NHL video games, like NHL 97 or whatever. I remember him being super good in those games. Sean McKeckern. Sean McKeckern. Ex-Penguin, I believe.

That's right. By the way, goaltending-wise, obviously Hachuk wins the Vezina, but Marty wins and wins. Colesig wins and losses. Holy, man. And goals against average. Again, this is, again,

Jacques Martin wins the Jack Adams with Yashin as a heart runner-up, basically. and Ron fucking Tugnut. You had a year of that year, huh? 1.79. God bless the trap, his goals against the average. Ron Tugnut.

Listen, listen. If you were born in like 95 and you're like watching hockey today and you're like, it's not that great, just remember when you were four, Ron Tugnut had a 1.7. Oh, God. The top five in goals against the average, by the way, Hobby Boole and with Phoenix, Byron Defoe from Boston, four Hachachin, Ron fucking tugnut

with the 1.7.9. Balfour was the stars goal 8. I was going to say a Turko, but yeah, that was later. Ron Tugnut. Yeah, hockey was not great. It wasn't. Like, that's the thing is, like, people who were like 10, 15 years older than us, they can be like, oh,

hockey was better when I was younger. It was the 80s and you're like, yeah. Ron Tugnutt was fifth and the Vesnavote in that. It wasn't, it wasn't better when we were younger. It really wasn't. I can admit that. Ron Tugnett got more Veznavost than fucking Ed Belfore that and Patrick Waugh that year. Where was Patrick Wallen goals against?

Patrick Gawall's goals against is 2.29. 2.29. Yeah, that's like a five today. And look, you go back in the 80s, and you're looking at, like, Grant Fior's goals against, and it's like 3.33, and you're like, that was terrible. And you look at the rest of the goalings, and you're like, holy fuck, he was amazing.

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Oh, that's it, huh? So if you don't want to hear the pop culture part of the podcast, this is the time for you to team out. All right, here we go. Go ahead. Can you guess friends? No. Oh, you want you to do. TV first? That's fine.

Seinfeld. Okay. Let's go. No, that's fine. Let's do the fucking TV show. I know you've curated a perfect, perfect little list here. The top five United States television programs in 1998-99. You said Friends.

Are we not including like Super Bowls? We're not including Super Bowls. Like just television programs. These are series. You mentioned Friends. Friends was number two. Seinfeld. I will say of the top five, and there was a tie for number five, that of those six things,

five of them more on NBC. That was my CTV. So obviously friends Seinfeld. No, Seinfeld was not there. What? Seinfeld was off the air by then, bud. No one wasn't.

98? 98? 99. Seinfeld gone by then. Maybe by 99. Wait. Wait. Wait. What? Wait. Again, this is like you calling Blade a superhero movie and not a vampire movie. 1989 to 1998 was Seinfeld.

We're doing 9899.99. It wasn't there. 98.99 season for television. Friends was number two. Is that how they do seasons? It's like a hockey season. Think about must-see TV for the... Okay. Okay. All right. Friends. Friends for sure. Fuck, I care. One classic, two classics and two forgettable series. Carolina in the city? Close, but no. Two guys a girl on a pizza place? That was on ABC. Shit.

98-99. Law and order? Why don't you go with the fucking classics on that? Thursday night. Because here, I can't remember, I can't remember any classics besides Seinfeld and Friends. Let me help you. ER was number one. Oh, right. ER. Yeah, that's right. That was on after all. Number three was a spinoff from another classic series. Joey. Oh, Frazier. Frazier. And the two shows you're thinking about that you can't remember, but they were just there. Give me, give me like a clue. One star, Kirsty Allie. Oh. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah, it was a girl's name.

like a magazine. No, she ran a lingerie store. No. Yeah. A lingerie star. Yeah. What was it called? Veronica's closet.

That wasn't a lingerie star, was it? Veronica's closet, the setup of the show was that... I thought it was like a magazine. She worked at the country's leading purveyor of lingerie and books. But it was like a... Oh. Now, this other one, I didn't know what the fuck it was. Okay.

Jesse. I don't know what Jesse is. Jesse was a Christina Applegate sitcom on NBC. I don't remember that at all. Not at all. Not a fucking word. And that was one of the top five shows of the year? It was tied for number five with Veronica's closet. Who else was on Jesse? Give me some... Oh, Jesse? Oh, it was the mass. Christina Applegate, Bruno Campos. Sure.

Eric Lloyd. Okay. That's about it. Jesse? Yeah, Jesse. Jesse was a waitress. So that's TV. Now, music. I'm not that you're big on music. And I'm going to, I'm going to be. quiz you on the music. Pro Jam. We're looking for the top. Smashing pumpkins.

We're looking for the top. Oh, hey, sneakers. The top 100, Hot 100 for 1998. Hot 100. How much time do we have to dedicate? I'm going to just tell you what they are. You're never going to be able to guess them.

Okay. Number five. Leanne Rhymes. How do I live? How do I live? How do I live? The Con Air theme song, basically. That was that.

Oh, fuck. You're right. Yeah, that was the song. Number four, and feel free to sing it if you remember it. Give me the, give me like a clue. Give me something that would, that would not, like a soundtrack, a movie. I don't know how to fucking give you a clue for Savage Garden. Oh, truly madly deeply.

That's right. Yeah. Oh, you love my wishing and imagine. Oh, yeah. It took me a second to the end. You had it. And then, uh, this, this next one is by a Canadian song, Canadian songstress.

You're going to say Celine Dion, but it's not. I say Shania Twain. That's right, but which one? I feel like a woman. No, you're still the one. You're still the one. Now, this next one is a video in which two pop pop stars are singing in different rooms,

and they're talking about fighting over a man. So two, really? And what we're looking for is the boy is mine by Brandy and Monica Now this next one I have to admit According to Billboard This was the number one

Hot 100 single The Macarena No of 908-98-99 And this is from a group called Next And this is called Too Close I don't recognize it

I think we have to pay the rights to them now If you do this Oh yeah! I know this song. I know the song, but I would never have been able to tell you who sang it or the title. I've heard this before for sure. This is kind of like substandard Belbib DeVoe or substandard Jodicy. No, I couldn't.

I couldn't place it if you gave me a fucking $100. I feel like we're going to have to ask Katie to mute that because I don't think we can do that. You can play clips of it if it's for news. Finally, the one you've all been waiting. for the 1998 domestic box office grosses that are to look back at 9899. Okay. Okay, here we go. I need clues.

Yes. Number five is a comedy featuring a former Saturday Live cast member. Jesus. There's only like 8,000 of votes. This movie is a comedy starring a man and a woman. Oh, thank you, Casey, Gason. Dear Gasey, can you play? All right.

All right. Wait, so, okay, so it's a comedy. Uh-huh. This is 1999 box office. 1998 box office. Okay. Featuring a former SNL cast member. I will give you another hint. Austin Powers.

No, no, no. It has to do tangentially with sports. Hmm. It's a prot. Ninety-98, former cast member sports. Tangentially. And? I'm going to go with.

Uh-huh. I don't know. The Waterboy Oh Hey Hey Bobby Bouchet Damn it

That was top five That was number five Holy $161 million I enjoyed that movie I didn't think it was Top 5 that year Number four is a Pixar film

Oh God The Incredibles No I don't know any of the It is the rival Of the film Ants Which finished 21st

Ants It was the fourth No no Ants was 21st A Bug's life Was fourth So again Which one had Sharon Stone?

One of them had Sharon. That was the... That's probably ants. The ants also had Woody Allen in it. Oh, right. A day folie in it. This was the year, this was a fucking weird year because, as you'll see coming up... Deep impact.

Right. Deep impact, Armageddon. And then also ants and bugs life, probably around the same time as fucking volcano in Dante's Peak. Quiet Earp and tombstone. Yeah, that was a thing back then. You kids don't get it back then. Yeah, imagine if like... like last like this year like black panther came out but then like a month beforehand it was like

like noir cougar right like another studio and like one was and like black panther is obviously the way better better way the other one you're just like why do they make that right like like like like Tracy morgan's noir cougar it's just like a janky awful version of it like if you haven't seen tombstone white erp watch tombstone first yeah and then watch white irp and see how unbelievably bad that movie. It's terrible. All right. So that's four? So that was number four. Number three, a classic, classic

comedy. Dirty. A dirty, classic R-rated comedy. There's something about marriage. Yes. That's the one, baby. I was at the U.S. Open, by the way, last week, and Ben Stiller was there. Oh, yeah, he was there last thing

when I was watching. And he was the most humid, awful caldron-like sweaty night in the history of New York. And all I could think of was like, they put them on the big screen. They're like, ladies gentlemen, stars, stage in screen, Bunn Stoller. I'm like, he's just like, he looks like fucking Senator Kelly from X-Men who just turned to a fucking puddle of water. That's a more recent movie reference.

I like that. That's good. You're branching out into the 2000s now. Number two on this list is a gigantic action movie that takes place in space. In space. Is it? Mm-hmm. Starship Troopers.

No, it is a movie that you literally just mentioned, but now you're forgetting that it took place in space. Austin Powers? I did. Did it take place in space? The first one did not? Did it take place in series? The first one? Bob's Big Boy goes up in the space.

That's space. No, in the comparison between movies that are very similar. Oh, Armageddon. Armageddon. That's correct. Wow. Number one. Inexplicably.

According to Ringer, every movie takes place in the series. space. Oh, fuck. I forgot about the dumb ass list. Goddamn fucking predator takes... Predator takes place in space. It's a goddamn jungle, except for like 20 seconds in the beginning of the movie, it takes place in space.

Number one in this list is a movie that inexplicably lost best picture. In 98, 99. LA Confidential? No, no, is a... Titanic. No, Titanic won. No, Titanic won. It is a war movie.

Save in part, Ryan? Correct. in love actually broke $100 million that year and finished 18th. But Saving Private Ryan was your top grossing movie in 98. Fucking lost the Oscar. Courtesy of Harvey Weinstein, by the way. We can say now, this is a travesty on top of travesty on top of travesty. He made Shakespeare in love?

That was a fucking Harvey Weinstein Shepard and Neil that they beat fucking saving Private Ryan for Best fixer. Ben Afflex in that, by the way. I've never really seen that movie all the way through it. He's actually played. He's quite good in it. Is he? Is he?

Yeah, he plays an asshole. Like he did a gong girl. So, like, that's his wheelhouse. He's just playing assholes. Yeah. At Great Mallrats as an asshole. Shakespeare. Oh, yeah, mallrats.

Yeah. The only good thing to come out of Shakespeare in love besides... Yeah, he plays an asshole a lot, doesn't he? The Sam Jackson movie, he's an asshole. Oh, changing lanes. Yeah. He's a real asshole in that movie. That's right.

He's a total asshole in that movie. Yeah. Only trumped by Amanda Pete being a bigger asshole in that movie. movie as his fiance. But like, oh, the only good thing to come out of Shakespeare in love, I don't know if you ever seen it,

but did you ever see George Lucas in love where it's, it's a spoof of Shakespeare in love because Shakespeare in love for those who haven't seen it, it's like, it chronicles Shakespeare's life and how all of the,

all of the shit in his plays are references to shit that was in his real life. So George Lucas in love is like, how did he come up with the idea for Star Wars? And it's like, his girlfriend had fucking lay a hair and shit.

Like, it's really, really clever. It's very funny. Check it out of the camera. That is really high concept. I do want to see that. Yeah, it's good.

All right, that's 99, 1998, in a nutshell. Shake down, 1998. 99. Mm-hmm. Do, too. Dominic Hachik likes to dominate. Likes to swing his legs over his head and go his glove on the other side to make it. See, Cs.

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