Puck Soup - Adam Savage

Episode Date: October 19, 2018

Greg and Dave welcome Adam Savage from Mythbusters and Mythbusters Jr. to the show, talking about weird science, corked bats and trying to find a reason to care about hockey. Plus, we inhale the ramifications of legal weed in Canada; talk about the nonsense surrounding hits on Elias Pettersson and Johnny Gaudreau; the best player in the world debate; a dumb hockey take from a Canadian columnist; and which NHL players you'd like to see bring hockey to a new location, like Sidney Crosby and Kenya. Sponsored by Sonos and Seat Geek!

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I'm Dave Lozo, and you're in Puck's Soup. You know, in Canada, I hear they have the 420 fairy now, if you know what I'm saying. Buddy. Uh-huh. It's becoming a thing. Yeah, I know. Smoke up anywhere you want. Smoke up anywhere you want.

Legally. Congratulations to our friends in Canada for being able to... Is it all of Canada? or just Ontario. It's all of Canada, but honestly, I don't know how things change. Like, every time I've been up in Canada, someone's handed me a joint at some point. But is it like, do they have like the whole federal, provincial thing that we kind of have down here where it's like, it's legal, like gambling. Like, it's legal, but no, not everywhere.

It could be, but it's not really, I don't know, you have to look into it. Is it one of those or is it just like, it's legal? Oh, I don't know, man. Up here in the Yukon, I got to make sure that the weed rules are in place before I make it legal. Yeah, and like, there's some places that are already. was legal, now it's just more legal, it's not medicinal legal, it's all kind, I don't know. I've told the story before in the show, one of my favorite things that's ever happened to me while covering the Olympics was when we were in Vancouver, staying at a house in Kitsilano.

I'm sorry, where? It's called Kitsilano. It's a really ritzy neighborhood. This is the place. Oh, it's a neighbor. I thought it was like a city. I guarantee you, I think I mentioned this before on the show. It's the place where we rented it out from this guy, and this guy was so in love with

his wife that there was a picture of her pregnant and nude on the wall. in the bedroom, and he left the picture up. And so one of our housemates took a picture of the picture. And so randomly, when we would be on press row for the gold medal hockey game, our phone would buzz, and we'd look it up, and there'd be just a picture of this beautiful, naked, pregnant woman. And underneath it would be like, this is your muse, is what he would write. That's not weird. That's not weird.

My favorite thing ever was we were waiting for these two dudes to join us in the house, and they never showed up. And we came out, we came to realize that they were stopped at the border for trying to import marijuana into British Columbia, which if you know British Columbia, it's like trying to smuggle oranges into California. It's like the dumbest fucking thing you possibly do. It's always been legal there, hasn't it?

No, no, no. There's so much. There's just so much of it. Because I remember going to Vancouver for the first time, and it was like all these, like, shops that just sold, like, bongs and stuff. And I was like, oh, it must be legal here. There's head shops and there's entire like road of like methadone clinics too. I mean, like it, it was utterly hilarious that these guys got caught trying to smokeling weed.

But that's neither here nor there. It's legal in Canada now. And let me tell you something right now. No one could be happier about this than Riley Cote. Riley Cote, a fly-by-night goon in the National Hockey League for the Philadelphia Flyers for a few years, has become the fucking Bill Gates of Hot-Gate's. Rocky and Weed. Riley Cote gets interviewed by every single publication, every single radio show in the world.

I've interviewed him in the past, too. He's been a cannabis advocate for years since his playing days were done. And now, like, he's literally on, he was on Merrick's podcast. They were quoting him liberably in this long feature story that someone wrote about weed in the NHL. Like, he's now, like, the fucking pundant. It's like... Well, wait, is he the Bill Gates? Is he selling it, or is he just, like, a guy who goes on TV?

Oh, no. He's like... He's, like, the expert on it. Oh. Yeah. Because I'm sure he's the only hockey player that's ever tried marijuana. It's like how Steve Karp became the beat writer for the Vegas Golden Knights, because he's like the only guy in Vegas that knew anything about hockey.

He's like, hey. He's just like, I'm just going to bide my time until a team comes. He walked into a rink. He's like, that's icing. He's like, oh, my God. He knows what icing is. Can we hire him? He's like, he's like, yeah, I'm going to ask for more money.

I call that a power play. It has been interesting to read about the NHL's drug policy. The NHL is basically like the weed league. They have a extraordinarily like. You can do it. You can smoke weed in the NHL. Their whole policy is very, the only way they get nervous about it is if you smoke too much of it. I'm going to find the policy for you.

Wait, so like if you're like real high, they're like, okay, that's cool. But if you're really high, it's like, I don't. Hang on. I don't mean I don't mean too much of it in the sense of like, like, of like, volume? Of like,

yeah, I'm talking about like, not like in one sitting. I'm talking about like over time. I think if you had a lot, well, maybe it is one sitting. I was going to say,

like how do they measure that? All right. Steve Weino, our good friend, wrote about the NHL and weed. Of course, Riley Cote is in the lead of the story. Where is he now?

How old is Riley Cote? I think he's not that old, is he? The NHL and the NHL in the NHL Players Association plan, no changes to their joint drug testing policy. High five, Steve Wino. Wait, I don't get it. What?

You know, like, you know, like, what my dad used to do to marijuana before vaporizers, he used to roll a joint. Uh-huh. Yeah. But what's the joke? I don't, joint. Joint drug test. Under which players are not punished for positive marijuana tests.

So they're not punished if they get test positive for weed. Oh, joint. Okay. I get it. You mother. It is the most lenient approached cannabis by any major

North American sports league. Well, that's good for... It's fun to write about weed because you can use all the different terms for weed in your story to change it up. Cannabis, marijuana, weed, Mary Jane, Grandpa's Magic Eye Medicine, so on and so forth.

You have like 12 references in there. Three writer calls, and just like, what are you doing? Said Gary Bettman. Sure. The substance abuse and behavioral health program for decades has been educating players on using drugs, legal or illegal.

The process will continue and we will consider what changes, if any, in our program have to be made. But right now, we think based on the educational level and what we do test for and how we test, at least for the time being, we're comfortable with where we are. Cost certainty. Sounds like you really didn't say anything there.

He just kind of... Yeah, it was a statement. Yeah. Yeah. Like, just we have a policy and it's a thing and we'll continue to look at it. Thanks. Now here's the fun part of Wino's story, by the way. Wino gets a quote from Connor McDavid about pot. And this is

pretty significant because NHL players never say anything of consequence. And Connor McDavid Did he say that any weed could be the best weed? No, he didn't. You never know. Anyone? He said, we'll talk about that in a second. The player

of the... Connor McDavid said this about marijuana of being legal in Canada and in the NHL. I say this more talking about the CBD side of it, obviously. Obviously. Right, obviously. Obviously. You'd be stupid not to at least look into it,

as been to an oiler, as Captain Connor McDavid said, when your body's sore like it is sometimes. Oh, come on, Linky. Come on. He's elusive. He got hit that one time and he broke, but then he's fine now, all the time. Maybe that's when he first got into it.

You don't want to be taking pain stuff pain stuff and taking Advil all the time. There's obviously better ways to do it. Obviously. You're seeing a lot of smart guys look into it. Many smart people are saying. A lot of people are saying more and more. You're seeing a lot of really smart doctors look into it.

Not the stupid doctors. The smart ones. Not those dumb doctors. Not Dr. Nick. Hey, everybody. Here's some cannabis for your anus. Smart doctors, obviously. Yeah.

That's a good quote. Good quote here. If all the boxes are checked there and it's safe and everything like that, then I think you would maybe hear them out. You know, I got a feeling why don't it and clean up this quote. And everything like that. On all of these things. And all of these things.

Boy. I actually talked to Nathan McKinnon this week and bought up the weed thing because, I mean, he's played in Denver. Yeah, he's in Denver. And now it's legal in Canada. He didn't know that the legalization happened this week in Canada. I mean, he was baked out of his mind. He was fine.

But he made the point, and I'm sure this is the point that a lot of these dudes are going to make, which is that it's better for you than booze as far as like... That's what a lot of good doctors say. Coping, not the bad doctors. No, bad doctors. The bad doctors are like, here's a bottle of Clervo. Right. Good doctors, though.

Put away that vaporizer and have some Clervo. Gotta have the good doctors writing your prescriptions for you. So, you know, it's... Where we are as a league as far as self-medication and shit like that, and concussions and CTA have long said that this is going to be a positive thing for the NHL. I mean, once the U.S. The problem is that the U.S. is not. It's all patchworky.

It's patchworky, yeah. Some places, yes. Some places are cool and some places aren't cool. You're surprised it hasn't happened here yet in New York? It's not legal in New York? I thought it was. I thought it was medicinal here. Is it not?

Yeah, but it's not like we can't go to a cafe. Oh, you mean like? Or like a place like the apothea. the Carium in Las Vegas that I've heard is a great place to go for weed in Las Vegas. I've never been there. They don't send me emails about sales they're having. Saw their Yelp page. That's all it was.

Right, exactly. I don't know. Where is it not legal to like, I know in Jersey there, like, what's his name who ran and won Phil, Phil McCracken? Connors, Phil Murphy. Phil Murphy. I know that was one of the things he ran on, but I don't know if he's enacted it yet. Right.

I've googled weed in U.S. map, and unfortunately, the city of weed, California came up. So I am... Be ironic if it wasn't legal there. So 2017 map here, which means that it's changed since then. The entire West Coast, it's totally legal. They've got everything going for it over there, don't that? Illegal places. This is in 2017, include Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee.

These are legal places? Illegal. I was going to say that felt like the illegal place Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, South Dakota is illegal, North Dakota is semi-legal. But it's probably changed since then. Well, what are the states with NHL teams

where it's illegal? Are there any? Yeah, I mean, according to this map, New York, Pennsylvania. Oh, right. And then, well, that's it, isn't it? Well, I assume, like, once the right people are able to, like, you know, get a little taste.

You're saying that once it becomes legal or in, like, the NHL state, so it doesn't have to be legal across the country. Well, I mean, yeah, because I guess if you're, well, I mean, I don't know. Here's the question I have about Canada now. There's a question I have about Canada now. Could an NHL player endorse or get an endorsement from or like work as an advertising

dude for like a cannabis company? I'm going to say no on that. I'm going to say that the NHL. I mean like if it was like a Canadian player playing in Canada? Yeah, I was saying that like back in the day when like you'd have fucking guys showing up beer commercials. Like, could fucking Connor McBake over here? A lot of good doctors. Just telling me I should advertise.

Connor, Conor McD. Connor Mc... What would be his weed name? Connor Mc... I'll go with Connor McBaked. Could he be the face of a cannabis company in Edmonton? If it's legal? Yeah. They're not going to advertise in the States.

But you don't think that the NHL would frown upon that? How could they, though? Like, what would be their standing? Like, I can see if, like, you were doing it like, it's legal in Jersey? Is it true. I don't know. Say it's legal in Jersey. I'm not keeping up, but like, say like Taylor Hall wanted to do an ad, he probably couldn't because it would air in like New York because New York it's illegal.

But like if you do in Canada, think about it. Think about how many times like you're watching like a game on like a Canadian network and you see like some hockey player doing like a Canadian bank commercial that you never see in the stage. Commercial for the fucking word. Yeah, same thing. But like you can, I'm assuming you could. Why wouldn't you?

When the NHL allows advertising on jerseys, is there any way that the Maple Leaf don't take advertising from a cannabis company. That's just like the buds or something on their uniforms. Now you see, then I think you would need, because those games would be broadcasts possibly in two countries. I don't know.

If a cannabis company in Canada... You could say there's a cloud over all this right now. If a cannabis company in Canada gave the Maple Leafs $5 million, would they wear on certain select nights? Holy shit. Uniforms that look like pot leaves? They have to. Right?

They have to. Third jerseys. Yeah, sure. I had a good friend named Jimmy Patterson once who told me that all. He's like, you know, I can, it is awesome. He's like, because they have a team called the buds, and they have a team called the Oilers. I'm like, what's an oiler?

It's another name for weed. They got a team called the Flames. But who are the buds? The buds are the Leafs. It's a nickname for them. They call them the buds? Yeah. So his contention was that all of the Canadian teams were stealth pot nicknames.

I'm like, what about the Habs? He's like, it's probably something in French. Yeah, probably. That's a... That's where I'm like, like, when you don't really have to tie the bit together. You can just be like... Yeah, he's just like, eh, maybe. Right, sure.

It's like my favorite... Have you ever seen the movie Midnight Madness? Have you ever seen Midnight Madness? We ever talked about this movie? I saw... It was a scavenger hunt movie with all these teams in college. And at one point, they were given... One of the teams is given all these clues in a box,

and they have to figure out what the word puzzle is. And this guy's like... It's like, it's cherry point. It's like a picture of a chair's chair. Picture of an E. because you have a pin that's point, cherry point. Meanwhile, they're like, what about this rubber ball? He just, like, fucking knocks their ball at the table.

That's all you need. You don't need to follow it all. You figured out most of it? Yeah, exactly. That's enough. I do the same thing with emoji puzzles. Connor McDavid is or is not the best player in the world? Well, here's the thing, Greg.

They went right to the source. Who's that? They went to Connor McDavid, said, are you the best player in the world? And what did he say? He said, it could be anyone, really. Yeah, right. We don't know.

There's no way to figure this out. So I don't know how this became. a thing, but now they've gone to Mark Schifely and said, Connor McDavid or Austin Math, and they couldn't even get through with the question, he's like, Conner McDavid, what the fuck? Seriously, what are you, why are you bothering me with me? What are you doing with, I have got things to do. Ask me about weed. I play in Winnipeg. That's right. I can talk to you about that. Blake Weedler. Blake Weel,

I saw a graphic and it was like stats since the start of like 16, 17, and like Connor McDavid has like 70 more points than Austin Matthews, and it's like and guess what? I just, They also went to an actual legitimate expert to ask about such things. Because at one point, I don't know if you remember this, but Sidney Crosby was considered the best player in the world before the ascension of Claude Drew. Vaguely remember that. Yeah. So.

Is you still in the league Crosby? Yeah. Just hanging out. Yeah, just hanging out. Yeah, just hanging out. Our friend Mike Z iceberger asked Crosby, who's the best player in the world? To which our young hockey prince said, I think McDavid. set himself apart just based on the awards and the accolades he's gotten and that consistency

he's had. But I think it's fair to say it's an easy pick just because of that. Did Mike Babcock have anything to say in regards to this? I saw the Babcock thing, but I didn't see what he said. I'd love to just know exactly what he said about this because he's a champion. He's coaching the best team in the league. By the way, I like the fact that Sid relied on the same metric that we do for the Hall of Fame. It's like who's got more awards?

Yeah. Yeah. Who has more trophies per season right now? Yeah. So Babbs. Did Babs have anything good? Yeah. Actually, Mike Babcock, according to Lance Hornby, put a quick end to the storyline.

Oh, quick end. Yeah, that the next, not a bell end, that the next generation of stars is ready to outshine Sidney Crosby. You know, one guy has two. Olympic medals and three Stanley Cups. And Connor McDavid and Austin Matthews? Yeah, they don't.

Nope. He said, it's not even close. So his argument is that a guy's been in the league for three years and a guy's been in the league for two, right, two or three? No, two.

Doesn't have as many Stanley Cups as a guy's been in the league for 12? He's got me on that one. I think McDavid's better than Crosby at this point. Oh, for sure, he is. Oh, yeah. Just checking.

I agree. Listen, I will... A year ago, I think he could have been like, eh, but now it's not even close. I will allow for the Sidney Crosby as a better defensive player than Conner McDavid argument. I'll allow for that. Of course, he's older.

Conner, McDavid is an exponentially better offensive player right now than Sidney Crosby. And Conner, McDavid, he can't be a good defensive player, right? He's young. Right. He's young and good at offense, so he can't possibly be good in his own end. Speaking of player endorsements, I think we should probably I mentioned this. Our friend Izzy Kishardian of the Washington Post asked Nicholas Baxter about John Carlson.

Do you see this quote today? No. You love it. Nicholas Baxter on John Carlson. Last year he got robbed with the Norris, I think, said Nicholas Baxter. If you look around the league and look at all the defensemen, I mean, John Carlson is the guy I would pick first. Wow, really? The work he does on a nightly basis, no one else does.

And as I said today on Twitter, motherfucker, you are Swedish. Like you are betraying your countrymen with this nonsense. You know what? You know what? He might be right, though, because, I mean, he sees John Carlson, what, 80 games a year, watches in practice. Yeah. He's, you could say he's biased or just super well-informed about how good John Carlson is. That's true.

That's true. Hard to tell a difference. And I knew John Carlson. I work with John Carlson and you, sir, I know John Carlson. My God. Oh, you got to stop asking players for opinions on. teammates. The matter who it is, like,

what do you think of Tom Wilson? Oh, he's just one of the best forwards in the league. Just an elite player, said, T.J. O. She You know, like, all right. Said Chandler-Stevenson. Oh, no, what do you think of Chandler-Stevenson? Oh, just Selky.

Just an undervalued forward that I think, you know, doesn't get the attention he deserves, said, Oh, by the, speaking. Jay Beagle, he's not on the team anymore. Speaking of Selky. Um here's the thing

Taylor Hall I have a new rule New rule says Bill Marr Oh man Bad Muslim joke No that's That would be what Bill Mar would do That's what Bill Maher does

Understand this I heard someone else say today On the radio I forget where Probably on NHL Network radio I had it on its background noise And obviously Alexander Barkoff

One of the most underrated players In the game No listen Here's my new rule If you go to the NHL Awards Twice even it's for the fucking Lady Bing, you're not underrated. People know you.

You show up in a tuxedo. Getty images has your picture on file. Yeah. You didn't win anything, but you're there. Yeah. Twice. If you go twice, people know you. Once, maybe it's a fluke.

You're rated. Yeah. Like Louis Erickson, I think, let me look at Louis Erickson real quick. Louis Erickson, during the height of Louis Erickson is underrated, went to the NHL Awards once. Was he like a Selke? Oh, wait, no, twice. He went twice.

So, from 2011 to 2011, 2016, which was his third year in Boston, very underrated, but then became overrated when he got there twice, or at least rated. Well,

was he underrated before, but then overrated after he gets to Vancouver? Like, how does that work? He was very overrated when he went to Vancouver. Right, but before he signs the contract, though.

Right. Okay. Yeah. But Sasha Barkoff is not, like, the hit, he's not, he's fucking known.

He's been there twice. Well, you have to take, into account markets. Anyone who's not playing in a Canadian market could be underrated. All right. Let's talk about Canadian markets real quick. Ooh, what a segue?

All right. So the contention I've heard from some people is that if Elias Peterson wasn't a Canadian market player when Mike Matheson threw him to the ice, then this wouldn't have gotten attention. I heard it voiced today. I believe it might have been by Eric Erlinson of the Tampa Bay, the Tampa Bay Lightning guy. Lightning Insider, say that if it had been like Florida versus the lightning in that game,

then no one would have paid attention to it, or some such. Hmm. What do you think about that? Oh, no, it was George Richards who I think said it. One of those Florida guys said it. I think it would have been George Richards. That play happened in Vancouver, though, right? That play happened in Florida.

Oh, it happened in Florida. Yeah. Trying to remember the jerseys. Well, it's not that. It's because he was concussed. If he got up from that, no one would have thought twice about it. That hit was bad, but, like, I feel like that happens a lot on the board. where like a guy hits a guy and then like

kind of helps him to the ice like that. But throws him to the ice. But like it was because he was concussed. Yeah. He's got brain injury. That's why it led the stuff. That's why it makes me mental and people are like, this happens all the time. I'm like, no, it doesn't.

People don't get concussing that play all the time. It's a very specific play. Right. And the idea that it's a common thing. Like here, guys raise their sticks all the time during games too. I know. But when one takes out the other guy's eye, that's bad. Well, wait.

We should maybe not do that. Is it because of the eye? Or is it because it's an I playing in Alberta? I don't know. The thing that's really bothered me in the last couple, like last week on this, I'm not going to rehash the Matheson play. I already talked about it ad nauseum. But like, that play is illegal.

There is it in the rulebook, something called degree of violence on an interference play where if a guy gets hurt, then it's a major penalty. So that's a major penalty they didn't call, so he gets suspended to punish him. Exactly. Charlie McAvoy on Johnny Godreau last night as we do this podcast plows him after the puck's gone. Johnny Goodrow goes down,

concussion protocol, he leaves the game, what have you. That's interference. It's always been interference. I heard one of the sports analysts during the game were like, you know, the game has changed so much through the years. Players don't know what kind of players are illegal. No, mother, it's fucking

interference. It's always been that way. I'm fine with you. trying to be overly cautious and finding hills on which to die to make sure that the physicality in hockey remains in place. It remains a rough and tumble game of manly men fighting manly men. That's fine. I'm fucking do it. I'm all for it.

I like physical hockey. Just don't pick the illegal plays to do it. Don't pick a play where a guy got rock bottom behind the net and got concussed. Don't pick a play where a guy got fucking interfered with after the puck's not there anymore and been like, what is this league coming to? It's so soft. It's like these fucking troglodytes in the NFL that are like, what, you can't lead with your helmet

any more on a hit? I know. What's wrong with this game? A bunch of pennyways out there. And meanwhile, like, football's been so good this year. Like, I hate, the other day, so if you don't know this, I think we talked about this last week in New York, when the Giants play on like a Thursday or Monday night, Sunday night,

usually when the Jets play at one, you just get the Jets game on whatever network they're on. And it was like, Jets Colts, and I'm like, ugh, 80 points in this game. Yeah, I know. It was incredible. It was like an arena game. Right. And it's like, at no point it was like, boy, I sure wish one of these D.Bs would put his helmet through another guy's head.

So it's like, I have, we need more Johnny Godrosse. We need more. On this very network that we work for, in this very building that we're podcasting. Yes. They had a discussion this morning about this very thing, which is, you know, the NBA might have been the thing that was the forbearer for all of this. That is a sport that let it stars play. It created rules to loosen the defense, allow stars to be stars, allow scoring to happen, allow stats to happen.

The more scoring there is, the more betting there is. The more scoring there is, the more fantasy players are excited about it. And the NFL, in theory, this was the theory, looked at this and said, holy shit, we should do this. We should loosen up the rules on defenders so they can't fucking tackle wide receivers anymore. And we should allow a situation where the quarterbacks are kept healthy because quarterbacks are very popular. And now, you know, people will tune in to watch Pat Mahomes and on and on and on.

And, hey, if you play fantasy, hey, guess what? All the games are fucking 50 to 48 now. How exciting is that for you? Yeah, like, at any point during the 47, whatever the Patriots Chiefs' final score was, were you bored? Were you like, oh. No, that game was awesome. Insane. And so now the NHL is like, maybe they're like, all right, maybe we protect our stars a little bit more.

Hang on, Greg. Hang on. I just want to chime in here to say that maybe someone like you can't understand the beauty of a 1-0-0. 18 shot, 16 shot game, but I can. I can see it. Maybe we allow our stars to be stars a little bit more. Maybe we get rid of obstruction. Maybe we keep on fucking with the goalies.

Now they're complaining that they took away all the padding, and now it hurts when the pucks hit us. To be fair, I'm kind of on the goalie side, man. If a dude's, like, fire at 105 mile per hour shot at me, I'd like to have my body not break by, like, November. There is a legit. Make the net's bigger. That's it.

There was a legit thing from Sergei Mabrovsky this week where he's like, it hurts now and I'm afraid of the puck. Yeah. Well, it was funny. I talked to a goalie this week actually for a story, and we were talking about the equipment thing. It turns out that it's not the chest protectors that are less safe. It's actually like tweaks that they've made on the shoulders.

Yeah. And the sleeves and the shoulders of these chest protectors. And he's like, it fucking hurts. Like they legitimately took away a lot of the padding to the point where when you get hit by the puck, it hurts. Now, you know, there's probably some old Gump-Worsley-style goalie out there is like, boys, fucking kids today. We used to stop pucks with our noses. You know, like, they're just like, boo-hoo, boo-hoo. But yeah, it kind of sucks for goalies now. Like, the big contention on equipment has always been like, you know, you can tweak shit, you just can't make it less safe.

And I think there's like a little bit of a concern they made it less safe. It seems to be less safe. Like, I remember when they, they did something to like the, um, leg pads. I remember talking Kevin Weeks about this and it was like, it was more about like dropping down to your knees, getting up, dropping down like 50 times in a game to do the butterfly. Right. And your pads are not as thick. You're going to do wear and tear on your hips. You're in like, but like that's more of like a, um, that's not getting hit with a, you know,

a Brett Burns bomb. Yeah. It's your right in the, like when you get hit in that like meat, that like non-meaty part of your arm, oh, it hurts like hell, man. Yeah. And, you know, the part of the thing over the. the years and playing around with this equipment was the notion

that goalies were making saves they shouldn't make. That was always the argument with Lungquist. The Lungwist's pads and also the shit he had like behind the pads was allowing him to make saves and going down that he shouldn't make

and closing off the five hole. So I think, you know, I was asking this goalie, I'm like, what do you think the deal is? Like are they, was their assumption that the chest protector and the sleeves on these chest protectors you guys are making saves you shouldn't make. He's like, I've got no fucking idea. I literally don't know why they change this equipment. I just know it hurts.

Yeah. Again, you make the nets bigger. It's a little wider. No one gets hurt more. They always can still wear the same stuff. That's the thing is, like, if you're going to continue to make advancements in shooters and forwards and defensemen sticks where they're lighter and you can shoot harder, you can't take away the chest and the arms and It doesn't make any sense to me, Greg. The thing, going back to the MacAvoy and Peterson, McAvoy hit in the Peterson industry, those two things.

One of the things that's come up, Nick Caprio said this, was about, you know, worrying about guys that are too small to play in the league. Like, his contention was that Peterson got hurt because he was so frail and tiny, even though he played in a fucking pro league last year overseas. No, but, like, I do kind of think that was part. of it, but, like, if that would be part of it for me, like, if he fractured his collarbone, you know, not his head. But, like, why is this an issue now?

Like, Goodrow, I pointed out last night, like, Johnny Goodrow has, like, close to 300 points in the league. Right. Right? No, yeah. Like, why the, like, when he get, like, why the fuck is it an issue now? Because we've got some, some rookies coming in that are teenagers that are kind of small. It's never an issue before when these hits go down.

But now all of a sudden, it's like, whoa, we got to take a step back. And the NH's got to have to really figure out what it's doing with these. smaller guys. I'm like, yeah, here's a real easy solution. Don't fucking power slam them. There's an easy solution. Right, exactly. Yeah, it's not as if these guys are getting crunched at Center Ice and legal hits and all are going out of, you know,

with injuries and losing time. Like, it was an illegal play. Right. Like, these guys have been small pretty much probably to every level they played at, so when you're small at every level you play out, you learn how to stay out of the traffic, you learn how to not get hit because you're quick. Yeah. But if someone's going to just, you know, grab you by the

throat area or the chest area and throw you to ice, if you weigh 160 pounds, you're probably going to feel it more than a dude who's 220. But like, if you, even if you're 220, your head's probably still going to bounce off the ice in that situation, so you can't blame his side, I don't think. Now, secretly, I wish they'd all get hurt because that way the NHL would have a crisis, there'd be a symposium, and we end up playing four on four all the time, which we baller.

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Do you know, as of right now, as of this recording, at 8 o'clock Eastern time on Thursday, who the only two teams in the NHL are without a regulation loss? Without a regulation loss? One of them is your New Jersey Devils. They're currently up 1-0-0 right now. Oh, they're playing the abs tonight. Playing the abs at home?

One-nothing after 1. Any other one would be the Carolina Hurricanes? No. Who? No. They recently lost at Tampa. I think that lost the Winnipeg, too. When they put up like 100 shots in two days,

which again, it's still too early for me to start talking about how great that is. I really mean that, but I really want to. No, it's the Chicago Blackhawks. Oh, that's right. Who are getting Corey Crawford back. That's right. Much like the way, at some point, Carolina will get Scott Darling back. And just maybe that's the missing ingredient.

I've been asked about a lot about the Blackhawks. I still think that lineup is way too thin, but I got to be honest with you, like, a healthy Cory Crawford can keep them by the bubble. Again, like this part of the season's always weird. You can't get too high or too low about it, but you can bank points. You don't think Jonathan Taves is going to add up with 130 points. Maybe like 118, 122. I don't want to put too much pressure on Taser.

It'd be pretty fucking amazing if like after all this talk about like, oh, Taves is overrated, Taves is overrated. He's just like, yeah, I decided to score this year. And then he just gets 130 points. I hate that narrative, but like whenever you watch him in a shootout, you know he's got hands. He can do stuff. Do you think he's, you think it's like one of those situations that if he was on a different team playing a different role that he would be like a higher scoring center? It's possible. That was always the talk about.

Bergeron, too, and then, like, he gets on the line with Pashternak and Marshaad, and all of a sudden he's, like, a fucking scoring ace. Remember those was Jordan Stahl when he was the third line center back in the 0-8-9-10 stuff? Right. And then Carolina's like, oh, goody! And then they're like, ugh. Oh, oh. Yeah.

Maybe you can get Mark Stahl. But now. Yeah. That's right. Winning games. I can't believe they put up 100 shots in two games. Yeah, who knew all it took was a guy to be like, shoot more. What, Rod? I'm sorry, coach?

Shoot more. Oh, man. I know. Calgary's doing pretty okay, though. They're like middle of the pack right now, so we can't get on the, the Bill Peters was the problem thing. We have to wait until after the season when they don't make the playoffs, and then we're going to hold a New Orleans-style funeral parade for Bill Peters' reputation as a coach with red red umbrellas.

Mid-November. Mid-November is when we can talk. I won't. Seriously, Carolina can win their next seven games. I still won't. I won't do it. I refuse to take the lap, even if I could. They've lost a couple games, too.

too. Too soon. Too soon. Too soon. Our guest this week is Adam Savage. Now, Adam Savage, you'll know from MythBusters, which is a fantastic show. You might remember their experiment test to see if a sumo wrestler could play golf. Oh, that's right. That was ESPN's rip-off of Mythbusters that actually me and Adam Savage get into. Wow. Their influence on other shows.

Adam Savage, as you... Now, when we started Puck Soup, you'll remember, one of the things that we were going to do was try to convert the non-believers and the hockey fans. Was really? I don't know. Was I at that meeting? Adam Savage, not a hockey fan. No?

Not necessarily. Likes the sport, but not a fan. So I do present him with a, what I believe to be an airtight case, preying on his love of science to become a hockey fan. But there's a lot of sports stuff in here, including their experiment with the juice ball

and things of that nature. So Adam Savage, caught up with him at Comic-Con. I think you'll enjoy this. He's got MythBusters Jr. coming up on the science channel later this year, which is good for kids, including mine, who believes that science begins and ends with Meeking Slime, which we talk about as well.

He's not going to go on there and be like Santa doesn't exist, does he? Because that's a messed up show. For those kids listening, Dave is joking, of course. There is a Santa. And, yeah, that's all. And also probably an Easter Bunny as well. Sure. Why not? Adam Savage, ladies and gentlemen.

So Adam Savage, you are here at New York Comic-Con. You have been to many in Comic-Con. I want a top-three power ranking of your cosplays through the years. Oh, wow. I know it's like trying to pick your favorite child. It's impossible to do such a thing. But there's always going to be a fondness for my first cosplay, which was a full open-chested prosthetic hellboy. Oh, wow. So I had jacket and a big rubber prosthetic chest and head that I wore and could barely move my head. See, that's a good one because, like, I feel like if I were to, I've only cosplayed a few times, I feel like I should wear something that accentuates my muscular chest wore.

That's a great one because it's perfect. It's enhancing. And then I loved wearing the Totoro. Miyazaki, Miyazaki's movies are so important to me and so important to so many cosplayers. And wearing a Totoro at a con is just an incredible. anti-depressant. Like people go nuts and it's really lovely and there'll be more Miyazaki characters in my future. That's awesome.

Let's talk about Miyazaki. Why do you love those films? I think, well, each of them on its own merits, to be sure, but there's a way in which he loves his characters and really lets you see the bravery, the mystery. You know, I mean, my favorite movie of his is skirted away. And one of the things I love about it, and Roger Ebert really articulated this well, It's a movie in which you enter a universe that clearly has rules that you totally can't understand. And you realize you will never understand them.

And yet you can feel the consistency of the world. And that's remarkable to be able to take you to a place that foreign, and yet you still feel familiar enough to look around and see what you're seeing. I'm a Miyazaki fan, but I'm also an Ebert fan. One of Ebert's big things in his reviews was if you are a film that establishes rules, follow the rules. Right. You know, and I always appreciated that.

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's such a simple storytelling, uh, thing, but so many films and so much work violates it willy-nilly. At this, at the same time, there are films where, you know, the rules go so deep because the filmmaker, like Cameron, Jim Cameron, right? Like, like, he understands deeply the rules of every world he creates. Right. Right. And thus they feel completely consistent. Right. Uh, and you go to other, yeah, other science fiction movies and it's all hell's breaking loose all the time. Right. And of course, other science-specific movies, they're, like, we're about to say there's so many rules

they're up their own ass the whole time. Well, it's like that scene from for, thank you for not smoking, where Rob Lowe is like, oh, yeah, they can smoke in space. We just thank God for the blankety-blank thing we attach to the side of the shit. You're using the genre to get to be, to have lazy writing,

which is definitely something science fiction has been guilty of. I've read a few interviews with you where you've talked about going to see Excalibre, I believe, as a kid. What are some of the other sci-fi films or properties that influenced you? Oh, my God. So I was a kid, I was born in 67, so I was hitting my teens in 1980. There you go. This is the most amazing. If you look at the films that came out between 1979 and 1983,

it is literally like they're all the most important science fiction fantasy movies of every genre. The alien franchise came out, Blade Runner, but also some of the best Bond films, the Raiders, The Thing. I mean, who frame Roger Rabbit, Goonies. It's just this incredible confluence of movies right at that moment in time. So that is like part of my DNA. How do you make the leap from seeing something in those films and saying I want to make it? Because that's one of the things I love about you is the idea that, you know, while we're all running around trying to spend thousands of dollars on these props,

you can literally recreate them. I am only watching and just thinking, oh, what would it be like to have one of those? Really? Yeah. So I never know when it's going to happen. But when the answer to that is, it would be cool, then I start down a path of research. And then that often snowballs. But I have hundreds of folders full of images of stuff.

I haven't even gotten close to starting to build. What was your thing with The Matrix movie? With the... I worked on the sequels. Okay. So I worked for Eon Entertainment for the Wachowski's on Reloaded and Revolution for about a year. Yeah, literally from like January 2002 to the end of 2002. And then we started filming Mythbusters.

Yeah. And that was, I think, actually, I spent three months on Terminator 3 at ILM after that. What did you do? I mean, what were you doing with that? I was a model supervisor. Oh, wow. So specifically for the dock. So in the Matrix films where the ships fly in, when the, when the, when the, when the,

that's the place where the mex. were. And when the ship crashes through the doors, those were practical doors. That's so cool. And it was this gigantic, like, 80-foot-long track that the Heron brothers built that could accelerate this giant fiberglass buck to 45 miles an hour into these giant lead doors.

This whole team had spent building. And then me and my team were building the center of the dock, the elevator shaft and all this stuff. And I was getting to work directly with Owen Patterson, production designer of the Matrix films, which is one of my heroes. Yeah. I've actually been following him since the beginning of his career.

And he, like, took me to the prop room and showed me all the original guns and everything. Well, it was awesome. I love, you know, like Phil Tippett, like all of those guys, the dance mirror and all those guys that were able to use practical effects back in the day. And, and, like, Jurassic Park's the one I always, I hold up. Like, Jurassic Park, obviously, was a film that utilized CGI in a very innovative way back then. But it's the practical stuff that makes that movie timeless. It's the practical. It's the Raptors physically being in the kitchen with those kids that makes that movie timeless.

And the T-Rex. Yeah, there's nothing quite like that T-Rex. Yeah. Yeah, I... CG is consistently and continually making ridiculous strides. But up till now, it has really been hard to replace the veracity of it all being in camera. Right. Which is why Brazil...

is always going to be a better film than Batman. Right. The first Batman. And that philosophy of Gilliam and of Doug Trumbull. Oh, yeah. Right, sought tooth and nail to put it all in camera instead of doing composites. That was Blade Runner as well. Yeah, Blade Runner, every single shot in Blade Runner is an in-camera effect.

Yeah. There are almost no composites. And it's all matte paintings. Yeah. So that to me is like, I... There's something I'd love to do, which would be to like buy an old mat painting and replicate a shot. Yeah.

Right. Just to show people how we're dead. One of the people that listens to the podcast works for ILM. So I had the chance to go to the head of which I'm sure you've been there for in San Francisco. Right. And those, the matte painting, the mat painting gallery is, see, it was my Siff. The one from Die Hard 2. Yeah.

Yes. The air strip. And the most amazing thing about the, about the map paintings when you see them is how lo-fi they are. Yeah. Because they're literally, the whole thing about film isn't, it's got to be. perfect. People think that, but it's not the case. It's got to be good enough for camera. I caught Die Hard 2 on, I think it was HBO the other day or one of the networks, and

it was the first time I had seen it since being there, and you look at the end, and it's like, real flashing lights, real vehicles moving, and then that map painting, you're just like, oh my God, all these years. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know also the problem they had was they couldn't find a runway full of snow. This is one of my favorite special effects stories. Yeah. That was still during the warmest winter in like 50 years, and they kept on, moving from airport to airport to find airports where it was snowing. Right. And then they tried to find fake snow, but it turns out you can't release plastic particulate

anywhere near an airport. Wow. So they found out that old snow for the movies used to be made with soap flakes, but nobody makes soap flakes anymore. So they found a decommissioned soap flake plant in the Northeast, and they started it up again and made fake snow that was legal for airports. It's also one of my favorite flubs in movie history where they're supposed to be a Dallas Airport and he picks up a phone at one point. It's Illinois Bell on the receiver.

That's like in a quick change when Bill Murray makes a call from a pay phone in Brooklyn, but you see the 49 miles scenic drive from San Francisco above his payphone. MythBusters, you mentioned. You did some sports on MythBusters. The one I remember distinctly was the cork bat experiment. We did some baseball. Which was amazing to me. And it was during like the height of the Sosa stuff. And it was finding out that it didn't matter. No, not. The in extravac makes it worse. Yeah. I also got to stand right behind Roger Clemens, watching him pitch full-speed heaters.

That's insane. And it was really magical. It was like being able to be in the room while Yo-Yo Ma plays a cello. Were you a baseball guy? No. Sports is not something that I'm interested in. But you appreciate it. Of course.

Absolutely. I appreciate the artistry. I appreciate the physicality. I appreciate the technology and the strategy. but watching Clemens I didn't first of all I didn't realize

that curve balls really curve and only when you stand right behind a pitcher do you see them do their break that's like science fiction yeah

and then I stood there while he pitched to me and I didn't even get to start a swing and he was like ah I'm just kidding with you and then he goes swing

just swing for me and I swing a couple times and then he goes all right here we go and I knocked his pitch deep into center field And he goes, that was called room service. He pitched it into my bat.

He set it up on a plate for you. It's insane. Now, part of the thing about Puck Soup, my podcast, is that, you know, we try to convert people. We try to make people into hockey fans. Now, I feel like hockey is a sport that you'd appreciate. It involves kinetic energy. It involves ice. We're talking about chemical changes.

I understand. I understand. I don't know to say that, but I have an inkling. of understanding about the insane situational awareness and proporeception of the best hockey players. Specifically like Gretzky. And I have watched, I have enjoyed many

how, Deadspin has taught me to love a lot of sports. Really? Yeah, I read Deadspin every single day. That's so funny. And it's funny. I never watched sports games. I watch golf on television sometimes because I love it.

I love watching it. Right. But Deadspin taught me the highlights of soccer games are amazing. And same thing with hockey games. Just what they're able to do at that velocity. Yeah. I mean, specifically hockey, they're genuinely threading needles at 40 miles an hour from 50 feet away.

Yeah. That's what it seems like. You know, it's funny. ESPN did a sports science show. Yeah, I remember that. And I thought. It seemed like they got some of their ideas from. Well, that's what I was going to say.

I went back because when I remember we were going to do this, I'm like, oh, my God, I remember from MythBusters. They did the, could have fat goalie be a better goalie? And then I look back at it. I'm like, oh, wait, no, that was the show that did sports. But I will tell you, when I watched sports science, I was like, wow, I'm really jealous that they get to spend 23 minutes on getting hit in the nuts. I was like, I would only be like as a producer, I'd have to make that into a six-minute sequence and I'd have to take up three other clever thing. Well, in fairness, I mean, the forbearer of that was America's Funniest Home Videos. Right.

So 23 minutes of people getting hit in nuts. But they did it too. And I'm like, oh, shit, man. I wish that was, I've been with Mythbusters. They would have done a billion times better than the fact bully and the net thing. I actually stopped watching it because I didn't want to, I didn't want to solie. my own experimental design. I didn't want to inhibit a design I came up with because they've done it.

So you're doing Mythbusters Jr. now, which was great, because I have an eight-year-old who is very much creeping into the science realm. Her entry point was slime. Yeah, yeah. There's a really good game. She loves it. Yeah, and she's starting to understand the chemical thing that happens to create slime and things of that nature.

Where are you as far as science and kids in 2018? Are we doing a good job? Are we doing a bad job? We have to continue to get out of their way. Yeah. You know, and the problem is really, it's central. It's not the teachers. It's not even the curricula.

It's the policy of that we have to gather all these metrics. And I understand we have to gather some metrics. Right. I understand we need to be able to perform reasonable tests to understand how people are doing. But right now it's so enough to actually learning. Right. that kids are being raised to think that science is a bunch of facts to remember by Thursday's quiz. Right.

And it's, no, it's a bunch of the most amazing stories that humans have ever told each other. What encourages me, and the thing I've experienced as a father, is that when I was a kid, I don't know if there were as many science museums, science centers, like here in New York. Liberty Science Center, you have a Children's Museum here in New York that has the same kind of thing. The hands-on, here's why things, here's why a giant bubble is. made kind of stuff. I don't think I had that when I was a kid, but I think she has it now. And that's good. It is really good. And when I was growing up, all we had was Carl Sagan. Later on, after Carl left, we have David Attenborough. But now we've got, we still have Attenborough.

And now we have Neil DeGrasse Tyson and we have Bill Nye and we have Simone Yatch and Diane, the physics girl. I mean, it's like from top to bottom, soup to nuts. It's a really great time to be interested in science. YouTube's big. Like, I feel like YouTube is a thing where my daughter, my daughter, watches a ton of it. And she's watching a lot of that stuff. She's watching somebody who is just simply standing in front of a desk with a camera in front of them and doing experiments. And that's how she's learning some of this. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, YouTube is an amazing tool. I wish I'd had it when I was a kid. Yeah. A couple more things. What was the biggest myth that you dealt with? Either you busted it or you confirmed it. That one, no, my question is, what's the one that was your most like

what the fuck one? What was the one that made you say, my preconception of what this test was going to prove is completely wrong than what we ended up with. Yeah, a killer cable snap. Tell me about that. That when a braided steel cable on a boat, every fisherman will say this as a fact. When a braided steel cable on a boat gets stretched to its breaking point, when it snaps, it will whip right through you like a knife. We had so much purported evidence to this.

So we figured out how to stretch a cable to 85% of its breaking strength and then cut it with a hydraulic cutter. And we pulled it around a steel ballard mounted into the ground so that it would whip. And then we placed the pigs at the highest inertial centrifugal moment of the cables whipping. And we seriously thought we'd get these amazing high-speed shots of cables slicing through ham. And we were denting these pigs. These, don't get me wrong, these pigs were dead. Yeah.

But they were dented. But they weren't breaking the skin. Slicing half-inch cable, same results. And so then I called up our, that was all before. lunch. And I'm like, I really thought this was true. So I called up the lead producer, Linda. And I was like, Linda, do we have any first-hand accounts of someone seeing this? Yeah. Because there's a lot of ways cables can cut through you on a boat. Right. But if we have anybody seeing this, and she's like, oh, I'm sure we do. I'll call you back in 10 minutes. She calls

me back, and she's like, no. That's crazy. And so I started the morning thinking I was going to be confirming a myth. And by lunchtime, I was like, nope, we're going to bust this one. And I'll stand behind against any fishermen. And then finally, you know, I love your work. I love your show because it is about curiosity.

And I feel like we are, and I think someone mentioned that you might have brought this up in your panel, we're in an era or a time when it seems like curiosity and fact and knowledge is not at a premium.

Well. In this country, at the very least. And I wanted to get your reaction. It's not that it's not a premium. It's not a premium. It's that the is that it's being, it's being used as a weapon.

Okay. So it's not a happenstance that's cultural. It is a, it's a danger that is political. The people, when Chuck Grassley says yesterday that, oh, he's heard so many people say that the women screaming at Jeff Flake in the elevator were paid by George Soros. Right. So it must be true. He is literally definitively lying.

and he is encouraging people to believe things that are the opposite of the truth. That is, that's, that's, I think our culture, I think it's, I think we've never culturally been more interested in science and interested in uncovering stuff. I think that with the fact that we have multiple rock stars at every level of fame in science culture, it speaks very highly of us as a culture, but we have to be better at analyzing the data that we're receiving. and our schools don't necessarily teach that to us. They don't necessarily teach us to take our own counsel.

Why is that? I don't know. I mean, teachers want to do that. They want to unleash that in kids. Every teacher I've ever met believes in the cause they have to because they're not getting paid enough. Does it go back to what you were saying before about the recitation of facts and give the test scores and things about? Absolutely. But when you're trying to, you know, the reality of the world is that,

There are no right answers. Creation is iteration, and iteration is going down wrong branches until you reach the right one. And that's not the way school works. School works like, you better make it up the right branch, or you're not making it to the next. You're not making it. You're going to be a terrible way to teach people how to take their own counsel at stuff. And I was radicalized early by my family, but also by the readings of Noam Chomsky. And one of the things I loved about him was as a political activist, he still uses his scientists

morality to say, look, I'm telling you and I'm showing you all the data I gathered, how I gathered it, and what I concluded from it. But please don't take my word for it. Go gather your own data. Do your own calculations and come to your own conclusions. And it's totally right. Well, keep doing what you do. Thank you. Watch a hockey game. And thank you for your time. Our thanks to Adam Savage, MythBusters Jr., coming on the Science Channel later this year. Bustin Mits Bustin makes me feel good Duna da-da-da-da-da-da-da-na-na-na-k He walks around, as we talked about,

and all sorts of costumes at Comic-Con, if you were ever going to dress up as anything at Comic-Con, what would it be? Like, it could be anything from a movie, or it could be a character, maybe a pun. Do you have something... A pun?

Yeah, you know, like... Give me an example of a pun costume. A traffic in puns. A costume I always wanted to do, but never did it, was I wanted to do a thing where I had all of these sort of like wires coming off with me. At the end of the wires, where neckties,

and I was going to wear boxing gloves, and I was going to be a tie fighter. That's a pun. I get it. And people do that. Like Star Wars. Right. I get it.

And then there were also people that dress up in like mixed stuff. Like I saw two guys, remember the Mario game, the shy guys? There were two guys that had shy guy masks, but they were dressed in like old 80s hip-hop clothes. Right. Yeah. What if I just wore like a big zipper and I was the fly?

Yeah? Like that? Like that's what I would do. Just like a big costume that's just like a zipper in jeans and I'm going. You would win. You would win the contest if there was such a thing to win. All right. Next year I'm going there and I'm doing that.

There it is. Just got to make the costume. Just make a giant zipper. Yeah. I got a year. I got a year to do this. I'm ready. Yep.

And I'll come over. You know what I'll go as? What are you going to do? You'll walk next to me and I'll just keep, I'll keep on trying to have you sign a contract. And I'll be like, what are you? I'm like, I'm a zip recruiter. Oh, yeah. Thank you.

See bad they don't advertise anymore here because... That's right, I had no idea. Actually, we'll invoice her for that one. That one was pretty good. That's right. So I know that we just got done talking about how great hockey's been with all the scoring and stuff. But occasionally, we have to talk about idiots. Jack Todd is...

Tom Wilson will... Oh. Jack Todd is a columnist, as you know, for the Montreal Gazette, an American who went to Canada and writes columns. He penned a column on October 14th called, Have some of us forgotten why we watch sports? It begins with an anecdote about Anthony Bourdain, this whole thing about how he went to a beer bar in San Francisco

and how wrong it is that people are taking notes about tasting beer instead of having beer and talking to everybody. Starting your bad sports column with an anthiobron. Anthony Bourdain anecdote is blasted me on a level that I can't quite vocalize. Okay. What's his take? What's his problem with hockey or sports? His take is this.

That people spend too much time worrying about analytics and less, and they should focus more on how fun a team like Montreal is. Okay. So what it's, I think you're going to say Montreal. Well, that's what the column is about. Right, they're also a good start. Sure. The functional paragraph, because Anthony Bourdain said watching people in a bar taking notes on what the beer tastes like is like an invasion of the body snatchers. So Jack Todd writes, today watching people consume 21st century professional sports is like suffering through invasion of the body snatchers all over again.

It means obsessing over the wrong things, refusing to enjoy a fun bunch of young Canadians as they skate all over the mighty pitiful. for penguins because we're busy studying possession stats, arguing over the GM, worrying about a player who has yet to score three games into the season. Sometimes we just need to simply sit back and drink a cold lager. Okay, wait. Here's my question. I got many questions. One, why can't we do both?

I feel like that's an option. Two, like the Bourdain story, I get it. You know what I mean? It's beer. You should be drinking it and enjoying it, savoring it, not writing down notes. Sure. But these people he's talking about who are, you know, being all analytical, is that happening at the bar where he's watching the game?

Or is he just, like, seeing people's tweets? It's people on Twitter. But like... Sometimes we need to sit back and drink a cold logger without checking the label. We need to watch a home run ball... Without checking the label? What does that even mean? Being worried about where it comes from and who made it.

But you would already know that once you... We need to watch a home run ball soar into the Denver night or a fizzing missile hit a goaltender... A fizzing missile. Motherfucker. Oh, it gets like smoke coming off the back of it? I need to get paid more. A fizzing missile hit a goaltender's glove without worrying about launch angles, war,

or a goalie's impending RFA status. All right, I'm kind of with him there. I don't care about launch angles and how fast the ball comes off the bat for home runs. I care about the distance. That's still cool to me. We need to remember what drew us to the sport in the first place. The pure and symbol delight of watching the game. I got to tell you, man, this is a fucking.

fucking horrible column. And I'm going to tell you why. Tell me. Bourdain I love, on the level that I loved Roger Ebert, and without question, I respect most of his opinions. One of the things I've never respected, though,

about Bordane. Okay. Is the idea that where beer comes from, who made it, what it is, where wine comes from, who made it what it is, is unimportant. And this is one of Bordean's big things

in his life was like that he was not a snob is how he put it. I prefer to go with the scene in sideways, with Virginia Madsen, talking about peanut noir, you know,

thinking about who made it, where it grew, what the dirt was like, who the people were that picked the grapes and on and on and on. Like to me, that's much more interesting

when I consume the wine is to think about all of these things, right? But you can also enjoy the wine while you're doing. That's my point. And that is the salient point. A salient point is that your knowledge of the wine and your knowledge of the beer and your knowledge of the analytics

and your knowledge of the contracts and your knowledge of why a play happened. Right. It's all good stuff. They all serve to make your... pure and simple delight of watching the game, even more delightful. Right. Right.

Yeah. That's all it is. And also, it's like, again, not everything is for you. You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I, whenever it's a home run and they show the replay, and there's the stack cast, and the wine, and all that stuff. Like, I don't care about that. But again, that's like seven seconds of my watching of the game. I can just watch that and be like, eh, and then move on and not have to, like, throw a fit about it.

Your point, though, is the important one, which is, that why not both? Exactly. Why one instead of the other? Right, people enjoy it. And the other thing that really bothers me about when people start doing this bullshit of like, just enjoy the game and don't enjoy the stat. Like, when is there a bit of time in the history of fucking sports where the stats

weren't obsessed over? Right. We're talking about Mickey Mantle versus Willie Mays. Or Roger Marish chasing 61. Right, yeah. Like, comparing... There were just different numbers. comparing Steve her and Carlton.

Like, it was always about the stats, especially in baseball, but even in football too. You know, breaking rushing records. Which quarterback was better? You fucking, you know, comparing Marino with Montana. Like, the idea that obsessing over the numbers, be it possession stats or be it, yards per catch or whatever the fuck back in the day, like, what? It's always been that. What is this weird utopian thing where the stats never.

mattered. You know, we never talked about Montana's yardage. We said, is that a good pass or a bad pass? Yep. No, it was never like that. Stats were always part of the equation. And now there's more of them. That's why they, the fucking... It's great. They had seven pages in the back of the Daily News with

fucking box scores. It wasn't like one page that said, did the Mets play good, or did the MES play bad? Was my excitement cure, or was it tainted? It was never that. I saw a cool stat the other day. It was football. as you can Tom still.

I'm a little more football obsessed right now. Don't worry. I come around. Everyone knows this. But like hockey right now, you know, it's again, games are like 8-7. But I saw a cool stat. It was like Tevin Coleman on the Falcons

who I have in my fantasy team. Me too. Freeman's out for it. Yeah, Guy in Freeman auto-drafted for me, and it fucking sucked. Saw a stat, and it said, Tevin Coleman leads the NFL in carries where his speed exceeds 18 miles an hour. And I was like, that's cool.

That's cool. It's cool to know. Yeah. You know what I mean? Also, interesting. What's wrong with that one? Tevin Campbell is tied with the band Rat for most songs

named Round and Round. Wow. Wow. Boy, we had everybody in the palm of our hands. We were bridging analytics and the eye test, and you just had to...

We could talk all we want to, but the worst goes of rat and round. Round and round. I believe. Yeah. To this... This column made me fucking mental. Again, I always come back to this, though.

Why do you read so many things? I know. I know. Like, you know what I mean? And like most of the analytics are like explaining shit that it's already happened. It's not as if you can't enjoy the Montreal game skating around watching, you know, Brennan Gallier do crazy things until he concusses the goalie, Chris Kreider style. But like, again, going back to the stack.

You feed the stats later to figure out why things worked or why they didn't. No, but like going back to the baseball thing, like, okay, you know, Sean Carlos did and homers, you know, after the next pitch to the next guy, they show the replay, they show the stat cast, launch angle, and all that stuff. Again, it's like seven seconds. But like if you're watching a Montreal-Pittsburgh game and they show, they say Montreal is winning, but they show the possession numbers are in favor of Pittsburgh on the screen, like a quick little stat. Again, it's just, it's just, it's five seconds.

You just see it and you're like, oh, I don't care about that. And then you move on. Yeah. Or you're like, oh, that's good to know. Montreal is really making the most of their chance. Like, oh, it's just, I don't know. I don't know. The last few things I'll say about this.

I don't know. I don't know why it's a gripe about thinking about a player's free agent status. Like, isn't that part of, like, the chewy, dumb guy narrative stuff that this, that Jack Todd's arguing for? Chewy? Like, you know, that you could chew on. Oh, oh. Not like Chewbacca. I went right to Chewbacca.

I was like, really, Chewbacca is into, like, all these sort of stats? I didn't know that. Chewy, what's your contract status? RFA, huh? The Millennium Falcon has exceeded 74 million miles per hour at least six times in the last. Okay. Okay, Chewy. Just let me enjoy the purity of the falcon, please.

Mr. Baca, I understand that you believe that you are due a raise here at this arbitration area. So you're coursey then. So my point is that, like, the big dumb guy narrative stuff is like, this guy had a great season. But what will happen to him in the off season? re-sign him, is you going to make enough money? Bum, bum, bum. Why is that a grape? Thinking about that thing.

And the other thing about this, too, is, what kind of fucking monster doesn't look at the label of his beer? Or look at the board and see what's available to you? What kind of weird-ass sort of movie that doesn't have sponsorships where you walk into a bar, you're like, I'll take a beer.

Take a cold beer. I'll take a whiskey. Yeah. Jack Todd's in a TV movie. Where you walks in the bar, he's just like, beer, please. No, but like the Bordane thing about like writing notes down, how you feel about the beer, like that, that's a little... Let me give you the actual Bordane quote. But again, it's a thing that people do that I don't...

Bordane said I was in San Francisco and I was desperate for beer and I walked into this place. I thought it was an old bar. I sat down. I looked up. I noticed there was a wide selection of beers I'd never heard of. And then he said the whole place was filled with people sitting there with five small glasses in front of them filled with different beers taking notes. This is not a bar. This is fucking invasion of the body snatchers.

This is wrong. This is not what a bar is about. I mean, there's a certain amount of truth to that because I feel like those little glasses of beer tasting, like, it's all right, but like it's not my bag, but I'll do it sometimes. Yeah. But you try some new stuff that way, but also, again. But it's a big leap between that and don't buy your beer based on the beer that you like. But, but also, like, it's another thing where, like, Bordane's still going to sat there and drank his beer and not been affected by people quietly writing down a piece. You know what I mean?

Like, I'm sure not every single person. You know, I just... But hold on. To go to go to the cold lager. theory here from Jack Todd. Like, you look at the board. Oh, loggers. Like, one of them is like six point, or...

Six percent? No, six points. Oh, the brewery. One of them's six point. One of them's like smutty nose. One of them's like bells. One of them's Budweiser. Like, which one are you getting? I know. I know. Not that. There's no fucking shaman reading the label of the beer. It doesn't have to be, oh, where did the hops come from?

How did they make the fermentation process? It's just simply like, I don't want the Clydesdale shit beer. But even if you do... I want to welcome our new sponsor, Budweiser. Even if you want Budweiser, you can get the can and look at the... You can take a sip in between sips, just like look at the can and be like, oh, okay. I don't know why that's...

Yeah. So bothersome. But honestly, you know where the best place to drink an ice cold Budweiser is? That'd be at the game, Dave Lozo. Yeah, but I mean, Greg. Yeah? How am I going to get to the game? Well, I mean, probably through some sort of public transportation knowing today's modern

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We have the receipts There's a guy in my office Goes to Northwestern Trying to get me to go to the game this weekend I won't do it Another guy in my office goes to Michigan Wants to go to the game when they play Don't want to do that

Penn State friends want to go Like I don't want to go And watch Rutgers get Like Maryland's not good No. And that game wasn't even close. Nah. Yeah.

It wasn't. It's bad. I don't know how a team gets that bad. How did it get so bad? I don't. It wasn't the whole point of us being in the Big Ten. Like, we would both get mad recruits that are like, we want to play in a conference that's got Michigan in it and Ohio State in it. And I remember Rutgers beat Michigan the first year, Rutgers was in the Big Ten?

And just, I don't think they could even beat Nebraska or even be close. The great thing about Maryland is that like our biggest wins have been against Texas, which isn't even in our conference. Maryland beat Texas this year? Two straight years. We beat Texas is good this year. Texas is good Oklahoma. We beat Texas opening week, two consecutive seasons. It's just so bad.

Last year it was they like fired their coach because of it. And now this year they've like had success in spite of it. Yeah, right. Actually, Maryland isn't that bad. They're not bad. They beat Texas. I have no room to talk. All right.

Now listen. Now listen. I'm losing here. I wrote a story this week. It just published today as we do the show. You know, there was an AP story about the women's hockey leagues, and there was a little bit in the story that I was baffled by. For the first time, please recall last March,

the U.S. women's national team, which went on, of course, to win a gold medal against Canada in a shootout, and it was the greatest moment of anybody's lives. All true. They were in a stalemate with USA hockey. They were pissed off because they weren't being. being paid enough. They were pissed off because their travel accommodations were good enough compared to the men.

They were pissed off that, like, the men would have an event to, like, reveal their jerseys for the Olympics, and the women wouldn't even be invited to it. So there's a lot of shit that wasn't right, considering the fact that unlike the men, the women are good. So they threatened to boycott the AAHF World Championships that were going to be in Michigan. It became a very big deal, got a lot of notoriety. at the end of the day they got a settlement done days before the tournament started and then a few days later

the NHL announced that the men wouldn't be playing in the Olympics which was another story altogether but speaking of the NHL the crazy thing is that in this AP story it was revealed for the first time that the NHL helped USA hockey

settle the deal with the women's players there was what Bill Daley told me a sizable gap in funding that the NHL, which already gives money to USA hockey, stepped up and gave them more money. Sizable in this case was $25,000 per player, I found out. Not through daily, but through another source. This is good.

Like, it's very hard to kind of, like, approach these things without side-eyeing it. But it's like... But it's like, why do they have... Why did they have to be the ones? Like, why couldn't... USA hockey doesn't have any money? They were really poverty, man. The way the cost breaks down, it was $71,000 for players, what they settled on.

And the NHL anteed up $25,000. USOC gives players money based on the tiers of how good they are. Like Hillary Knight gets like $21,000, and then it goes down from there to like $14,000. And then the rest of the money comes from USA hockey. Oh, okay. So they do kick in some money. They just don't kick in enough. So the players are asking for this much, and the NHL stepped in to fill in the gap.

Now, so what does that end up being like a half million total? I mean, I didn't run the full numbers. But if it's $25,000 per player, they have 20 players. Is that how it works? Yeah. So I was trying to figure out why they did it.

And I can't quite figure that out. Except to say that maybe, I don't know, maybe they felt that they needed to do the USA Hockey is solid because a few days later they're going to be like we're not sending our players. Does kind of feel that way. Yeah. That does. That's square up, maybe, with a timeline.

But it's the NHL. Why would they, you know what I mean? I feel like they could just raise their middle finger and say, who cares were the NHL? Right. So they still did it. Now, the bigger question is, why didn't we know about it? Like, if you're the NHL, every time the NHL does something that they think is good, we immediately know about it.

Our arenas are green certified. We got a letter from the Pope. Like, all of these things that they do that they think are good. The letter from the Pope, I forgot about that. The only thing is they're good. We know about them immediately. Declaration of principles. It's like Batman goes door to door.

It would be like, Arinas, a beautiful and green, and the letter from the Pope, let me read it. Well, it has to be like you're talking about. If at the same time they were like, hey, we're not getting enough money to send NHL players to the Olympics,

and then at the same time, it's kind of awkward. That's the only thing I could think of. The only thing I could think of is that, like, they didn't want to be like, hey, we're, we're, we're, we're, it's not the only thing. My first thought was that they can't be like, hey, we're giving money to the women. Oh, by the way, the men aren't going.

We're kind of fucking over the men's team. Yeah. But the other thing that somebody bought up, and I find this very interesting. But also, that would be good press, though, if they did it that way? I don't know. This one makes more sense, and a few, a few readers of the SPN have pointed this out. They've agreed with you. No, this is interesting.

What if the NHL kept it quiet because they didn't want this to be, a precedent to then have to do it particularly for Canada. Because now that this is out, aren't the Canadian women going to be like, ho, ho, ho, ho. You are a North American organization. Right. I appreciate you guys stepping up to, you know, help with the U.S. women. Where's our Kwan?

You know, where's our make good? Where's our money? Where's our 25K American? Well, Hockey Canada, I'm assuming, is more flush with cash than USA hockey, just based on... You wouldn't assume that. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I love talking about this topic when I completely have no idea how anything works.

Well, what if this? I don't know. But at the same time, though, we'll say, I don't know your source, but like, why would it come out now? Well, it came out in an AP story, and I don't... It did not necessarily come from the NHL. So somebody had to be annoyed, I guess, right? Or they just mentioned it, and then they got confirmed, I don't know. Yeah, like an accident.

It's interesting that it came out, and it's interesting for me that, like, the NHL didn't let people know about it when it happened. The players didn't know about it. I talked to Monique Lamarou, who said the players didn't know that this whole thing happened. Like, they didn't know the NHL was a part of it at all. They just let the USA hockey. He was like, here's all the money. And they're like, yeah, USA hockey. Thanks for having our backs.

Interesting. Yeah, it's crazy. Well, at least they got the money. At the end of the day, that's the thing. Like, it's labor peace between these sides. The women didn't boycott. They went on. They beat the shit out of Canada.

It was great. They won the goal. Everybody cried. Justin Labruth scored a goal for the ages. Shootout. Yeah, it was nice. It was the best. Yeah.

I was thinking about it today. I was thinking about, like, how I hadn't thought about it since maybe the Washington outdoor game. When they got their mouths. They came out and then also the U.S. curling team was there. Oh, yeah, and they did a little curling thing of center ice, which still looked a little too convenient. I mean, in terms of how it came to rest of the, you know. It's better than having Bobby Hole out there.

Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's fair. So anyways. All right, question of the week time here on this dumb podcast. As you know, there was a big to do recently where Tim Hortons, a company that everybody seems completely cool with promoting their products. for the sake of talking about a heartwarming hockey story, which I guess is the point. Had Sidney Crosby and his boy wonder Nathan McKinnon.

It's always. It's always those two in the Tim Horton's bits, always. Surprise the Kenya Ice Lions, the men's hockey team from Kenya. There's been a bit of a controversy about, they've been called the only hockey team in Kenya. People pushed back and said, what about the women's team?

And then the second Mike Zyisberger reference of the podcast, he said there's actually only one national team in Kenya, and both the men and women are part of it. But there are other teams. They're just not national teams. Well, it was a women's team as well. So anyways, they went and surprised this team that was flown to the Canada, and they played with them on the ice,

and it was a beautiful heartwarming video, and it went everywhere, and everybody was super happy about it. And so our question of the week was, pick a place real or fictional and pick an NHL player to bestow the gift of hockey onto them like Sidney Crosby and Nathan McKinnon did for Kenya.

Do we reach that for Israel's right out the battery? No, Barry Laruni writes in, well, the plan was to have Pajama Boy do that on Long Island, but it never happened. Who's... Pajama Boy is now John Tavaris, by the way. Oh, is that? Oh, right, right. This is now two weeks in a row. I've missed that reference.

Okay, okay. Emma writes in, P.K. Suban and Henrik Lunkwis go to a frat house, but instead of the gift of hockey, they teach the frat bros how to dress themselves. This is almost like a house bunny thing. Okay, yeah. Alex writes in,

Brent Burns travels to the planet Kashik to teach the wookie people a bombastic forecheck, wicked risters, and poorest defense. Luckily, Eric Carlson comes along to aid the defensive side because someone has to drive the falcon. Wow, Brent Burns, defensive liability meme. An Eric Carlson defensive ace meme.

I know. What is this opposite day? I'm having a hard time wrapping my... I like the bit, so it's a good bit. But yeah, this is the world we live in now. We're Eric Carlson's the defensive savior. I like it. Mark Wrightson, Taylor Hall bestowing the gift of hockey to Edmonton.

Ah, yes. Mm-hmm. Colin Breer writes in Andrew McDonald to Siberia Flyers fans 8 Andrew When's that contract

them Next year Um Brian says Brad Marchean to Uranus Ah I get it

Jacob McGinnis says Ilybridge Ghaloff brings hockey to the 100 acre wood Because the 100 acre wood is where Poo Bear lives Ah

And hence I would be very afraid to meet the pool bears I will give hockey to piglet I'll give hockey to Peor I give hockey to Kanga and rule to wise owl but no hockey to put bear for he is a bear

and he is not good for building a bridge gallo for the Hawkes Yes Glenn Jester writes in Phil Kessel to heaven The nominations are now closed Does that mean he dies or he just goes to heaven?

Yeah Yeah, that's, and is he saying heaven's a fictional place or a real place? We're getting into some real deep, you know, controversial stuff here. I feel we're going to have to have you go to heaven to give them hockey. Yeah, okay. All right, yeah. Good one, Randy, good one. There it is.

I can't do the voice, but it's a good bit. Philip writes in Anj Kopitar to the Frankenberry marketing staff at General Mills. So this is a, Ange Kopitar is Frankenstein, but this is, Philip, I'm going to throw the flag on this one. Frankenstein jokes for you've getting Malkin. Wolfman jokes for Anjikopatar. He looks more like the Wolfman. Wait, is there a Wolfman

cereal? No. That's why it's a... There was like a booberry like a... You know how they have it down. Yeah, it's weird how there never was a Wolfman cereal. Just fucking like hair in your milk. Yeah, that's probably why they didn't do it. Jeremy says, Patrick Alainey to Lute Lake.

I'm always here for a Fortnite reference. You know my grandfather, he he was first person in Finland to play the fortnight. But it was a different game back then. It was

a game where you just go into a fort and spend a night. It wasn't really a game. It was just more his life. He was the best though. Trashmaster says send Gritty to Nazi Germany

so you can claim enough scalps to satisfy Brad Pitt. What? He's an inglorious bastard apparently. Is there someone in that movie who reminds him of Gritty? Is that the bit?

I don't know. Or he's just, he's just going to put him in the movie? Sure. Yeah. It's your choice. Tyson Thorpe writes in Our sweet boy, Austin Matthews, would teach Captain America

how to play hockey than in a cruel twist of fate, Cap gets disintegrated by Thanos, and Austin becomes the hero that America needs. Now, this is an interesting one, because as you know, the cap was spared by this happening. As you know. Well, this person is creating their own universe, so I'm going to respect it. Finally, Jeff Israel writes in and says,

I'd like to send Tom Wilson to hell. Boom! Simple to the point. So the opposite of Phil Kessel. Tom Wilson to hell Yeah Mm-hmm Tom Wilson goes to hell Friday of the 13th part

8 By the way In the new Halloween movie Mm-hmm You know how old Mike Myers Is at this point In that reality You mean Michael Myers

Michael I call him Mike I know I know it's awkward You know? Yeah Do you know how old You know the number? How old?

He's 61 Like that's how old He is in the movie In the universe Right Because I've looked it up How old he wasn't In the original one

And it's like I get it Mike Michael Sorry, Michael Myers is not about, he's like Jason Borghies in a way where he's just walking after you. But I mean, he's in his 60s. I'm not saying a 61-year-old person can't do damage with a machete or anything. Right. But I mean, you know, I feel like you could probably catch him while he was on the loose.

I think you could easily get away from him. All you have to do is run through a room that has a bark of lounger. Yeah. And he'll just sit. Or like, you know, he's trying to catch somebody but like, you know, his bladder. He's constantly having to stop to go to the bathroom. It's whatever. People seem excited by the movie.

so I mean, I don't know why didn't, if memory serves, we've already done this, like where Jamie Lee Curtis came back for Halloween H-2O, which is kind of like a scream type deal, like self-referential kind of like, you know you're in a movie type thing, I think. Oh, was it? But like now she's back and she's like really old and has grandma hair and stuff. But now it's like a serious movie about someone who's really doing murders. My favorite thing about this Halloween reboot is do you know who co-wrote it, right? No. named McBride.

Oh, Danny McBride, man. He's found out of down. Yeah, somebody told me, like, a long time ago. Yeah. He was a horror guy before he became a comedy guy. And the dude who directed Pineapple Express is directing it. Uh-huh. But, like, it's really funny, because if you watch the commercials for Halloween,

next time you see a Halloween ad, check this out, it's all, like, long shots of, like, Michael Myers in this, like, asylum. Yeah. You know, people running around, and he's everywhere, and he's coming out people with knives, and it's super scary. And when they get to, like, Halloween, and they cut to the, like, credits of who directed it and shit. Normally it'll linger for a second so you can see who the director

is and stuff. It goes by in a fucking bat of a hummingbird's wing. It is so fast lest anyone be like Danny McBride! But like that kind of gives me a little interest in seeing it now because like it might be funny. Right, but you can't sell like

a scary movie written by Danny McBride. Like that's, people will think it's like this is the end which is a great movie. But what if it is? Yeah. I want to know that going in If I know that going in, I'm more likely to go see that movie now. Yeah. All right.

Maybe we'll go see it. I still haven't seen Venom, by the way. I will soon. Yeah, never will. Okay. Skipping that. Thanks to Adam Savage. Do check out MythBusters Jr. on the Science Channel.

Thanks for him humoring my attempts to try to make him a hockey fan. Thanks to Jack Todd for writing a shitty column. Thanks to Canada for passing legalized weed for various reasons. For our friends. Not for us. Sure. Well, I mean, you know. We're Americans. That's right.

We're America. We are, this is America. Don't catch you slipping up. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening to Puck Soup. I'm at Wachinsky on Twitter. He's at Dave Lozo on Twitter, but you don't really, you're not on Twitter anymore, really. It's a little bit still.

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