Puck Soup - Candy Corn Sucks

Episode Date: October 26, 2018

Greg and Dave go through the Gary Bettman ruling on Tom Wilson, talk about the Leafs/Jets game on NBCSN, breakdown a "hilarious" Jeremy Roenick segment with Patrik Laine, discuss Sidney Crosby vs. Connor McDavid, William Nylander's sponsorships, free curly fries, Adam Sandler, Venom and your hottest Halloween candy takes and worst costumes ever. Sponsored by Sonos and Seat Geek. 

Sticks and hits and goals and saves and slapshots and goons. We've got sportly commentary to what if you commute. We also cover movies, TV shows, it's in tunes. It's your weekly bowl of hockey and nonsense. I'm Greg Wichinsky of the Worldwide Leader in Sports, ESPN, and ESPN Plus, available now for streaming wherever streaming is streamed. And I'm Dave Lozo. And you're in Puck Soup.

Dave. Yeah, Greg. There are very few things in life that I'm sure of, but I'm sure of one thing after this week. That you're going to want to go see two more Venom movies? Nope. I'm sure that we have more subscribers on our Patreon that Mike Francesa has on his app. Yeah, but what does he have? Well, he's charging nine bucks, so he needs like half the crowd.

He got to do a fight with Andrew Marshand of the New York Post, who goes around licking all of the... the other faces of people at the New York Post, I imagine, like his brother Brad. So he got into a fight with him, and during his radio rant, he said that he would give Andrew Marchand $10,000 for every subscriber under 300 that he has. So in other words, like, if you think I have less than 300, I'll give you $10,000 for everyone less than $300. basically showing his hand that he has 300 subscribers at $9.99 a month.

Oh, you think that was... For the app. But, like, I don't even understand the wager because it's like, why would Brad Marchand ever guess anything besides 300? Because this way he's either right, wrong, or it doesn't owe him money. I also don't understand. He said that he would submit himself to a New York Post interview of if Andrew Marchand put $500,000 in escrow before they talked.

I think he likes losing his mind, and it's pretty great. Although, wait, going back, wait, he said he would. give Marchand 10 grand Yeah, he's like, he's like, I guarantee you I've got 300 subscribers at the very least. Any one under 300, I'll give you 10 grand for each one. Oh, okay, so it's not really the guess. So, like, if he winds up having, so if he's wrong,

it has 294, Andrew Marchean gets a free 60K. Yeah. So Andrew Marche has nothing to really lose here. How many subscribers do you think Rousseau could get on an app? If he put it, could he get 300? I would say, yeah. I think Francesa has way more than 300. You think he just,

How many people are paying that much money a month? I don't think he knows the number at all. That's what I think. It's like when Jack Donagy is trying to figure out how much milk cost and he's like, I don't know, just go buy a $50 gallon of milk. He has no idea how many subscribers he has to his thing. Darren Rivel, my good friend. Co-worker. Retweeted something fascinating to that end today, by the way.

He had a, like a flyer from a... Shane Gassuspray? No, he's definitely Rodko Goudis. A flyer from like a 90s. 1989 or 87 or somewhere in that neighborhood. Eric Desjardin? It's Tim Kerr. Card show.

Like a sports memorabilia show. And he was noting that for Willie Mays's autograph costs like $12. But the one that caught my attention, Muhammad Ali's autograph in 1988. How much you think it went for? 88. And 88. 50 bucks.

$22. Really? Can you imagine? It was at one show in one place somewhere, right? Like, I don't know. That seems, where was it? No, no, I'm saying that's like no money, though. Like, I'm sure at 88 we're looking at, like, who the fuck would pay $22 to get a boxers autograph?

Yeah. Because we're the same people back then are like, why would you leave the Star Wars figure in the fucking plastic? You know, it's like, at the time it made no sense. But, like, hopping the fucking Tartis or the Delorean and I go back and get Muhammad Ali to sign, I don't know, every glove in existence for 22 bucks a piece. Right? Wait, what does he do it for? Francesa. Nothing.

I was just, I was, I was off on a tangent. Oh, I thought you were doing a bit where, like, Francesa's autographed. No. No, no, no. No, no, no. I was, I was acknowledging, I forget how we got there. The cost of things, I guess. I don't know, the fucking tangent is on the show.

I want you for you to bring it back around. And that's why Francesa is now charging $700. Yeah, you know, the writing on this podcast is always really curb your enthusiasm tight, where the things that I introduced in the first minute always come back around. Come right back around. Absolutely. Palestinian chicken is of this show all the time. Dog.

Um, hockey, sure. Tom Wilson. Sports, hockey, right, ice, sticks, suspensions, upheld, shocking. How will the Capitals survive? So the thing I'm wondering right now is it veering off into Christopher Walken Land, but you're really doing Joe Piscopo S&L, right? Was that who you were doing? I was just talking quickly. Do you remember the Joe Piscopo? SNL sportscaster bit? No. He would be like, Joe Piscopo, live, Saturday Night Sports Tonight, Mets, Jets, Nets, vets, blitz. Like, that was his bit.

That was a bit. Yeah. That's a good bit. Joe Piscopo, Jersey's own. Just talking in a rhythm like this. At one point, one of the top five most famous Devils fans, I'd say, Joe Biscopo was like, Whoopi Goldberg was one. Kevin Smith was one.

I was about to say Luke Eric. Also, are you saying was? because they're no longer fans and now they're on L.A. Yogi Barra was one. Christy Todd Whitman, the governor, was one because she saved the team. And then Joe Biscopo was one. Those were the five most famous Devils fans at one point. In like 89 or something?

No, probably around like 95. Still? Still? Like Christine Todd Whitman was still rolling into games in 95? Well, no. In 95, she's the one who was governor when they like saved the team. Oh, I thought she was like in the 80s. No, I know, man.

Brendan Byrne was. the fucking governor in the 80s, what was the name? I think there was the governor in the 70s. God. You're a man at a time. Is this going to be like a politics? I didn't realize, I didn't realize that it would be a civics quiz. Yeah, like, ah, so tell me who was in office in 1994?

Gary Betman upheld the suspension. That's shame. Of Tom, of Thomas, aka Tom Wilson today. Now, why do you say that to shame? Are you being sarcastic? It is. Like, you know, he did nothing wrong. I mean, Tom Wilson is a saint.

You know, he's just a misunderstood big guy, just playing tough hockey, throwing elbows. Great. My favorite thing about the suspension in terms of, like, the thing that they sent out with the decision on it was like, we all saw what he did to Jonathan Marshall and this time like a final. We were all like, you tried to kill him. Yeah.

In a game that was over, we probably should suspend them. And that was like one of the talking tos that we got from the play. Again, talking tos don't do anything. It's amazing. Ever. He does it. It's a cup. It's a cup finals, so they're not going to suspend it for anything.

So, like, George Farrow. And they had just suspended him during, like, oh. Yeah, he's like, hey, Tom, George, don't do that again. Get better. Bye. And he's like, okay. So if they don't care about the Stanley Cup final, they probably don't care about the preseason, right? Yep.

No, of course not. Oh. The thing that I loved about the suspension was that, or the Batman ruling, there's a lot that I loved about it. We'll get to it at a moment. But the NHLPA. Well, you're not going to do the voice yet? I'm on the, I'm on the defense. side right now.

Okay. Okay. The NHLPA has to mount a defense of Tom Wilson, which is really, I'm sure, comforting to Oscar Sunquist, who's like, I can't go into bright rooms now. And they're like, well, we have to defend this guy because he's losing a million dollars because he can gust you. Their argument was literally, even though the entirety of the Department of Player's Safety, which does not always agree on these things, all agreed, yes, that's a headshot.

Yeah. The NHLPA had to be like, nope. fake news, not a headshot, not Rule 47, not Rule 48. More and more people are saying that Tom Wilson's a great guy. Could you imagine having a stand in that fucking room through the straight face? A, defending Tom Wilson and B, being like, like defending Tom Wilson, I can understand because you could make the argument, as they did, that 20 games is unprecedented. That's fine. You could do that. That's a fine one.

But the first part of it is, the first part of it literally was they said, this should be a fine and not a suspension because he did the head wasn't the primary point of contact and because Sunquist put himself in harm's way. They actually had to make that argument. And I know how lawyers work. I know as a lawyer you have to put up every fucking balloon bullshit-filled balloon to make sure you get your client off or whatever.

Can a balloon float if it has bullshit in it? Yes. Is that science? No, it is. Well, here's how. Because the methane releases from the bullshit. Well, there's two ways this can happen. The methane releases or you

eat something, then you inhale the helium, and then you swallow. And now this shit is mixing with the helium. So then when you take a shit, you have helium shit. Then you take that helium shit, you put it in a balloon. Just stuff it right in there, like a fucking stuffing in a turkey. Did you smoke up before you came over here today? No, I'm fine. So they had to defend him and say that nothing had happened.

Right. And clearly something did. And Deppin's like, you're all seeing it wrong guys. He's like, he's like, I'm pretty sure I saw a headshot. And they're like, no, no, no, but what about the, The thing that I love was like their smoking gun was like, what about his separated shoulder? He's like, I'm pretty sure he heard it when he fell to the ice after your client concussed him. I want to know how long, like the, it was like 40 minutes?

It went on, no fucking joke for seven hours. They started at 11 a.m. Seven hours. What is this, a Judd Apatown movie? Oh, right, Greg? Oh, man. There it is. It's a girl, buy some pink shit.

It's one of my favorite lines from knocked up. The two best lines that no one ever discusses are right from that around that area when him and And what's your face who didn't take off her bra had their big fight Catherine Hegel yeah, Catherine Hegel he's like he's like he's like it's a girl buys a pink shit And then she has that line which is like, why don't you go fuck your bong? Yeah Yeah everybody refers to the the Craig Robinson part where he's the Dorman part Dorman. Doorman and then everybody refers to the the I like Spider-Man

lament when they catch Paul Rudd at the fantasy draft And what's interesting about the fantasy draft, by the way I was watching knocked up the other day Because I happened to flip on E Entertainment Television And of course, what else is on if not the Kardashians It's knocked up And I noticed that it was Paul Feig was in the room with Paul Rudd

In that scene with the Fantasy League stuff Director of the Lady Ghostbusters And also Spy and also many other things that were good cameo appearances. That's what I love. See, what I love is the chair scene. Like, that's the scene. Like, I can't really quote it, but I just, I just like everything that happens in the chairs.

When they're, when they're, when they're, when they're, when they're tripping and he just, like, starts, like, sitting in all the chairs and, like, judging them. So, Batman said, yeah, you had his head. And then the, the, the second thing that the NHLPA had to do was the NHLPA had to say, well, we think that the 20-game suspension is wrong, right? and they had to give out their own number, and they said, here's what we're thinking. They slid it across the table. That's right.

They wrote it on a cocktail lapkin. They slid it across the table. It's like, here's what we're thinking. If, in fact, it comes out that he maybe hit him in the head, which we don't think he did. But if you, you know, Mr. Bettman with your older gentleman, maybe your eyes are failing you, maybe you think he did. But let's just go with that. That's how you went over a judge, by the way. So you insinue when he's blind.

and then make an offer. Standard law practice. Let's just say that you think he did. Here's what we're thinking. We're thinking eight games. Why do you think eight games? I will tell you why. Is it because that's happened to be

the amount of games they've already played? It's a lot like the Mega Millions multiplier. You have a multiplier for suspensions, right? Like if you are a repeat offender, then the next time you get it, you might get like double the games. Well, here's what we're thinking. Okay. He was suspended three playoff games for concussing Zach Aston Reese and breaking his jaw.

And that was horrible. We completely agree. Oh, that's bad to do. But take those three games, double them. Give him an extra two for concussing Sunquist. Sure, why not? And then you got eight games. Now, what about the fact that the playoff games?

are worth two regular season games typically. Ah, we don't describe to that theory. That's an old wives theory, my friend. An old wives theory. The old wives theory. That classic theory from science. The old wives. Tail.

Tail. Oh, I think you were doing, I think, again, I thought you were doing it. See, like, I'm here all day, and all we do is bits all day. So, like, I can't, like, have a normal conversation anymore. Right. I can't tell if someone's doing a bit or if they're serious. So the whole thing here every day when you're writing on Katie Nolan's show is that you people are testing shit on everybody at all times. This is a true story.

So we did like a little group thing. True story. We went to an escape room on Tuesday as a team building exercise. Built team building thing. Built the team. Wait, it was it really or was it for the show? It was built a team. Team building.

See, again, you can't tell if I'm doing it dinner now. I couldn't. This is my life now. I just assumed that like Katie's got to fill time. Right. Yeah. So part of the escape room that we were in. in, there was like a screen.

And while we were there, there was like a mask in a box. And I took it out and read it. And it was like, this mask will give you superpowers. And like no one else had seen this but me. So I took the mask and put it on. And then I leaned over to the screen. And the screen that was blank, I could see it through the mask. And I was reading it out.

And as I'm reading out, like, the instructions of how to get out of the room, people are like, is Lozo doing a bit? I'm like, go to the left and turn the right and type R. Like, I think that's a bit. And I'm like, I can't breathe in the mask. You have to do this before I pass out. You legitimately had solved the escape room. and they're just like, they don't trust you.

Yeah, they were like, how do we read the screen? It's not there. And I just leaned in and started talking. They were like, I think it's a bit. This sounds so annoying. Oh, no, no, no, no. It's great. Everyone's just constantly doing bits all that time.

It's like, hey, you going for coffee? Yeah, sure, I'm going for coffee. No, I'm seriously asking. Are you going? Oh, no, no, I'm totally going for coffee. I'll get you some coffee. Are you serious or not? Because I haven't given you any money.

And I could really use a cup of coffee right about now. Oh, yeah, going right to the coffee shop. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'll get you an iced coffee. Again, you're saying it weird. I don't know what that means. Yeah, I'll day. All right.

So the NHLPA then had to be like, look, eight games is what we're thinking, right? And so the reason Betman gave for keeping it at 20 games was like a hundredfold. But basically the gist of it was, no, no, no, here's how we multiply it. We take the three playoff games. games, we make them six regular season games, because that's the math we all agree on. We add two games because you hurt the dude. And then we double the whole thing to get you to... Oh, that's only 16.

They said 19. They said 18 and then two more for... Oh, fuck it. I don't know how they came up with 20, but I'm happy they kept it there. Yeah, they were just like, oh, 20. That's fair. I think the... And the funny part was they actually said that, like, the Rafi Torres suspension.

was like times 10. And then they're like, just be happy we didn't times 10 it. Because three times 10 is 30. So we did you a favor. We gave you two thirds of what you maybe would have gotten had we given you the Rafi Torres suspension. So that was your logic.

Bargand deal. They're going to get it overturned. The NHLPA's got a pretty good fucking batting average right now with the neutral arbitrator. Dennis Wideman, Austin. By the time they get to it, he's already going to be out like,

He gets the money back. Yeah. You know? It's like over a million, too. Greg, you're insinuating hockey players only played the game for money and not for the love of the game and winning in their teammates. My two favorite things in this bit about the testimony at the marathon session they had with Gary Bettman. The first is that the NHLPA was arguing he didn't really hit him in the head. It only looked like he maybe did.

Complete accident. Tom Wilson's testimony. Yeah, I probably hit him in the head. Can't say for sure I didn't. Probably did. The NHLPA's argument, you know what? He had no other options

other than delivering this hit. It was a hit that he couldn't get away from because of the way that Sunquist had positioned his body, whatever. Fucking Brian McClellan, the cabs GM, on the witness stand, I assume that they have. He had some options.

Yeah, he's, I mean, if we're being realistic here, I'm under oath, right? So I can't, okay, yeah, he had options. But the greatest thing ever about these, these, these, uh, these, uh, these betmen, um, uh, soliloquies on when he does these rulings. And I was talking to somebody at the NHL today about it. And I'm like, so did he just like put on a cardigan and, and sit in his office all weekend and put on some, you know, classic rock and just bang this thing out. They're like, yeah, probably.

Yeah, sure. The footnotes. he's like the David Foster Wallace a footnotes when it comes to the hockey fucking settlement shit the NHLPA argued that video footage from a play three years ago in which Chicago player Jonathan Taves

successfully avoided a potential check by Mr. Wilson I know Mr. Wilson on a similar backchecking play as well as various other video clip showing examples of offensive players yada yada yada this is where we get footnote one The NHLPA's reliance on the Wilson-Taves play to be particularly curious here, because while it is clear that Mr. Taves saw Mr. Wilson approaching and chose to make efforts to avoid the oncoming check, it was equally clear that Mr. Wilson also pulled up on the play and reduced his speed to minimize the impact and any potential collision with Mr. Taves. Mr. Wilson had the same option to minimize air quotes. or avoid contact here and they chose not to do so.

The other thing you have to remember, though, is that in the preseason, you have to lay out a guy sometimes. You just have to. If your job is to lay out, guys, it's practice. No, I mean, like, you have to make the team. Tom Wilson's like, boy, I don't know. I could be on the roster edge here. I got to show the coach I care.

Now, the NHLPA to their credit made the argument, and it's a good one that, oh, by the way, air conditioner just kicked on if you hear something in the background. Or whatever the fuck it is, because it's cold outside. I'm not going to be an A suit. The NHLPA made the suggestion that suspending a guy for preseason games is inconsequential. It's basically giving him a fine. So, kudos the NHLPA for that, because that's the fucking honest truth. Just saying what we all know.

Yeah. But then Gary also shoots down that notion. The NHLPA suggesting that there's essentially no consequence to a suspension. for preseason games also misses the mark. Although a suspension in the preseason does not result in the loss of salary, notably nor does a suspension in the Stanley Cup playoffs, such a suspension, unlike a fine, places the player at risk of being treated as a repeat offender.

For purposes of the salary forfeiture, provisions of Article 1815. This is a long read. In the event that he must miss games due to a... I can't finish it. But point being is, that Gary Betman argues that preseason suspensions are really, really important because that makes them repeat offenders. I tend to believe that maybe like, if there was a rule that said if you get suspended in the preseason, you have to get suspended for at least one game of the regular season, like that would be a fine rule for me.

That would be something at least. That would be something, you know? It sets it. What? Just the whole premise, like, oh, well, it just sets the tone for if he does it again. Like, oh, Jesus. In summary, accordingly. I find that Mr. Peros's decision to impose a significant suspension of a longer duration

than in prior incidents in this case was readily supported by the evidence and might, in fact, be the only effective way to deter Mr. Wilson's future bad conduct. I hope that this decision will serve as an appropriate, quote, wake-up call to Mr. Wilson, causing him to re-evaluate a big point. positive changes to his game. The chances that Tom Wilson will become a cleaner, streamlined, caring, non-concussing player if this is upheld as a 20-game suspension are, what? What are the chances?

Well, even if it's not upheld, it's still going to be a gigantic suspension. You sound like you think this is going to reform him. I mean, like, but the thing is, like, now if it happens again, it's going to be this and it's going to stick, you know? So I'd like to think that him getting his first taste of big money and having it taken away and all that, not the threat of it, will be enough to get him to stop murdering people on the ice. How about that? I think that he only knows how to play one way.

The Capitals want him to play that way. They're super pissed off that he might not be able to play exactly that same way now. I'm telling you, I think he's going to keep doing the shit he does. That's what I'm thinking. I think it's at least a year before it happens again if it happens. Nothing else will happen this season. All right. That's my guarantee.

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Canada versus Canada matchup in the history of NBCSN's coverage of the National Hockey League. Now, before you look, did you look? No. Dave Loseau doesn't know. No. Can you guess what is the average total viewership, Mikey, Jets Maple Leafs? Average audience, Jets Maple Leafs on NBCSN. 400,000.

Um, that doesn't sound like Mad Dog at all. The average audience for the Jets and the Leafs was 167,000 viewers. Now, you're making the whistle face. Jesus. You're wincing like you just banged your hand with a hammer. It's not, I mean, it was up against World Series game too. That's true. And it is October.

Sure. Now, a whole lot of people got hockey in the mind in October quite yet. I barely do at this point. Up against the NBA. NBA just started too. Like I said when I was tweeting about this today, I don't think this is a terrible number. I think when you look at the fact that the

Lightning and the Avalanche at 945 that night after this game, the second half of the doubleheader had 177,000. What was the Wednesday game last week? It had a lot more. I mean, it kind of comes and goes. Like you get 400,000, 500,000, 500,000. viewers for like, you know, Penguins Capitals or whatever, close to a million maybe for other matchups. Other matchups, like the Wild and Coyotes only got, like, they got less than

200,000 last week when they played. You know, it's, so what you're saying is that no one really watches. But what I'm saying is that it's two Canadian teams. So not a single fucking person in either of those cities count towards this number. So this is a hundred and seventy, I'm sorry, 167,000 fans that are not affiliated with either city that are watching this game. And I think, you know, when the baseline is that, and it's up against the World Series, which, by the way, one of the major parts of the country that might give a shit about a Leafs game is all watching the Red Sox. You know what I mean?

Why? The Wingland. They care about the Leafs, you think? I think they should have a few Boston fans that would want to watch the Leafs and root against them, root for the side of good and light. The Jets? I don't know, man. Let me rephrase that.

I don't know. Let me rephrase that. An entire region that might give a shit about hockey is watching the World Series. Is that better? Yeah, Southern Cal is a pretty big hockey market at this point. Oh, my God. I mean, the Kings, the Ducks. There it is.

Burgeoning. Well, again, I always go back to this. It's like, who cares where these teams are from? They're two really good teams. Nobody wanted to watch. No one cares about any other sport. When two good teams get together, they watch. They do.

That's a problem. I think the NHL, we talked about this before, is getting better to that point of, like, there are a lot of sort of teams you give a shit now about and a lot of players that you kind of give a shit about. And then, like, the way that the game has gone, as far as going more offensively, when you tune into a game, you're no longer like, oh, man, I hope I see something. You kind of feel like you're going to see something from Line A or from Matthews or from McDavid or from Crosby or whatever. And that's a good place to be. But I think that it's kind of new.

Like I think a lot of hockey fans feel like when they tune in to watch a game, you're not always going to see Crosby do what he did the other night against McDavid. Yeah, also that was three on three. I'm, oh, fucking Sid Truther. No, it's every awesome three on three. Oh, John Tavarres, it's like what he did the Sean Couturier. Yeah, there was only two other guys on the ice after he got past Couturier. So it's like, all right, whatever.

I know a lot of open space. A lot of more room to skate around, a lot more options, almost harder. a score in three on three if you think about it. That's what Cindy Crosby hates. Do you have any questions for Sid about McDavid? I think we did this last week, but I'll ask, were you motivated to show you were the best player in the world? You know, individual matchups don't really mean much for me.

I think of, you know, the bigger prize, like, you know, winning the Art Ross over McDavid or winning the Richard over McDavid or, you know, winning a cup before McDavid or, you know, getting more Tim Horton's commercials than McDavid. I mean, at this point, McKinnon's got more Tim Horton's commercials than McDavid. As you know, Tim Horton's commercials really the gold standard when it comes to Canadian marketing. It's either you get that, Canadian tire, you know, the Bay. You know, there's a lot of really big Canadian companies, but mostly it's Tim Hortons. And I feel like my commercials speak for themselves when McDavid doesn't have any.

Were you just saving all your goals for the season just for that game against McDavid? Is it the plan? It's not about that game. It's not about any individual. But, I mean, the fact that I'm on the throne and McDavid is not even cleaning my feet, like an old time emperor and a plebeian is it's not fulfilling. But it's the kind of thing. that you guys talk about.

You know, it's more important to you. Not important in this room. What's important in this room is the number of Tim Horton's commercial. You can go to any Tim Hortons to pick up a coffee. I mean, I'm just saying at this point it's like a 7 to 1 ratio. You know, my Tim Horton's commercial, or 7-0. Maybe I'm pitching a shutout like flowers and the net, you know. Not necessarily Murray.

He's a bit of a civ now. But, oh, wait, he's a good teammate, I mean. Oh, boy. 167,000 viewers. I just, I want them to be excited about it because I don't want them to fucking not do it again. Oh, so you want to just lie and let them here? Can we just quit, can we discuss the giant white elephant in the room, which is that that's the real issue. That's the issue?

That's the issue. If this, if you took the roster of the Jets and put it in Montreal, and last night was Leif's Montreal, well, That's not fair because that's an old rivalry. If you put it on Vancouver. What makes you think they care about Toronto with that number? I think they care about Toronto. People care about Toronto. Why?

Because it's closer to us? No, original 6 team. People know what Toronto. Oh, we lost them. You're working for the NHL this week? You're quoting the original 6. You're talking up 167,000 viewers for a hockey game. I'm praising Gary Bettman's.

You're just doing Gary Bettman's the best person ever? Litigious nature. Wow. Yeah, it's not great. They're probably not going to do it again for a while. What are you going to do? I'm really offended that you think that I'm like shilling for the NHL. Now, I was looking on their flawless, perfectly executed stats pages earlier.

I was really enjoying their analytics page. I had this thought, and that is best game on Earth. Let's move on to our next topic. Why we need more outdoor games and why they should all feature the block. No, I mean, I just, it's a Winnipeg problem, man. Like, I really feel like, and they got decent ratings last year. I guess in the playoffs, but I just feel like there's that's the playoffs. I just feel like it's sort of

antisept people don't like, people don't need to watch Winnipeg. What if it was Toronto, Vancouver? You think the number's any different? It might be. Really? Come on. You think I don't think, I think a good Vancouver team pops a number. Fucking Vancouver, Boston was one of the most highly rated and excited, exciting cup finals of all time. It's a cup final game. A regular season game has 167,000 So, like, in your mind, like 140 tuned in for the Toronto side and 27 tuned in for the Winnipeg side.

Now, you seem to believe that it's a Canadian team problem. That's 100% what it is. It's just Canadian teams and everyone in hockey likes their own team and they're all American teams when you're counting American ratings. Therefore, by rule, you get this number. We just need to start watching these fucking games because it's going to be a Jets Leaves final. You're just going to start running into people's houses? Turn off this Thursday night football game. Why are you watching college football on Wednesday?

The other thing that we need to discuss about this game, though, it's something that you haven't seen yet, and it's really important. And it is called the Jeremy Ronic Patrick Linae video. It started before we got a chance. All right. So Lozo's watching this for the first time. If you haven't seen it, it's Jeremy Ronic. Oh my God. Two minutes.

Doing what Jeremy Ronic does best, which is not be in a studio talking about hockey, but being a goofball. and he's talking to our sweet boy, Patrick Lainey, who by the way is wearing a Houston Rocket sweatshirt. Okay, here we go. Even he doesn't like Canadian hockey. Jeremy Roneck and Patrick Line, and they're about to play hide and go seek. You want to play some games with me?

Yeah, of course. Tag you're in. Because the bit is video games. Yeah, they're playing tag first. That's the bit. Okay, JR, I know you're in here. And now they're playing hiding go seek. You would just play some video games.

Video games? I love video games. Yeah, let's go. Ronick was hiding like it was the playoffs. I get it. So now they're playing Fortnite. Ronick was holding the controller wrong. And he just...

I don't like these games, but let's go play a brain game. Can I just point out that Ronick finished 27th in Fortnite? I don't know if that was in individuals or squads, but that's a perfectly respectable finish. It's probably Linnae. For a noob. It's probably Lining. Oh, Lainey has never finished 27th in Fortnite.

Lainey shoots the... top, man. Come on. Victory Royale every time for our sweet boy. All right. So they played Fortnite and they grew tired of that. And now they're going to play something else. You ready?

Let's do it. Let's do it. Brain teasers. Sure. I'm not very good at those games. We can try. Perfect. Then maybe I get a chance to win because I'm not winning.

Scrabble. Goal. Now they're playing Scrabble now. Oh, God. This bit is so dumb. And how many games do they play? And it goes on for two minutes. And they're playing Scrabble.

And the word that Ronick spelled first was goal. Because it's hockey, I get it. Yeah, it's great. I'm sure it was naturally how the tiles came out when they started playing. Wasn't really? Yeah, sure. You think he was like staring at his tiles for like 15 minutes trying to figure out.

And all of a sudden he's like, gee, oh, oh. He's like just looking for like a hockey term in there. Oh, got it. Stick. I just want to point out this is really clever. You're going to like this part. Okay. Ely Voima.

It's a finish word for power play. That's a point for eight. But that's like 15 points. Yeah? I'll take it. I hate gravel. I especially hate finish gravel. All right.

So I want to point out that our sweet boy is trying to save the bit. He wrote a word in Finnish. I imagine it had like several whys in it. You know, like did a Mackey. Yeah. You know, I don't know point. I had one. Why probably.

But like Linae is trying to do his best. He's doing his best. They're playing an operation. Yeah. Now, we play an operation. Sure. Do you lose? Did J.R. just shake his hand like it was an actual electric shock being currented through him from the operation game?

I got to admit, I kind of blacked out at some point. This is the longest bit ever. We did Operation on Always Late, Kevin Hart. I do. Things hard. One, two. You got caught into Petman for us. Now they're playing Candyland.

Oh, my God. Yeah. No, it's good. It's a good bit. No, they see it's funny because they're playing all these games. Because like in hockey players are getting... Well, he's a gamer. He's a gamer. Yeah, he's a gamer.

So it's like a bit. Right. No, no, no, no, I'm there. I'm there. I checked out at this point, so this is all new to me too. I was going to say, yeah, the 102 mark. I was like, man. Hang on. Are you losing?

They are. I'm 20. I'm not five. Okay. What game is this? This is a game, I believe it's called either pie face or pie in the face where you put like shaving cream on a small catapult. Okay.

And then some way, somehow the loser of the round gets a pie in the face. So Patrick Linae and Jeremy Ronek have their faces in these two, I don't know, like the thing you put your face in when you're getting a massage. And then there's a catapult filled with shaving cream that goes up and hits Roneck in the face. How do you play? What's the point? How do you, what's it? You just wait for it to hit you in the face.

I think so. All right. I got to get the Whiteout last year Yeah, very funny I'm losing at these games How about a skill game? We got a thing you can do with skill game He keeps losing at these games

Yeah Yeah, like they're really playing Yeah, that's good stuff You have a perfect game It's almost like the cups on the line Keeps losing it I get it Okay, if I win

You gotta grow back That ugly, awful stupid beard you had on last year Okay And if I win I'm gonna get you really ready For the whiteout Okay So he was going to make him wear a white

The Roenick side of the bed is that if he wins This is a very long-term payout Because it takes a while to grow a beard And then if Roanick loses Linae says I'm going to get you ready for the whiteout And that sounds like he's going to come on him Oh is that what you got from that?

I thought so In Finland that's what it means Is that what they're calling? Yeah I'm going to get you ready for the whiteout It's a threat in Finland But like, I don't understand. This is, this is so dumb.

Here we go. Fakes make no sense. Mm-hmm. Okay, I don't know what that means, but let's go big. What else? I don't know what that means. You're going to wear white to the white out. No, that's what he's, because he played with a lot of finish guys.

There's a serious risk that someone's going to just come on. I'm just ejaculate it. Like migs and sounds of the lambs. Oh, man, you got to stop watching. Now they're shooting pucks. Now they're both shooting pucks. Could we talk about how, like, the beginning of this was, was, they did it opposite.

Like, the beginning of it should have been hockey. And it's like, this is something that normally happens. And then it gets more absurd as you go along. Yeah. But this time they began with the absurd shit. And then they're finishing with, like, the normal shit. The hockey stuff. Which, by the way, is happening fucking nearly two minutes into this bit.

Yeah. It's a minute 50 now. Oh, the way they knocked down a... You got me. You got me all day, actually, in the games. What's this whiteout thing? You ready for it? Oh, we hit him with a pie.

The pie. It was fantastic. Oh, man, he really got them. I give J.R. credit. It's not a great bit, but he's in it. You know, he's committed to it. That's all you can ask for. He's selling it well.

I've long said that, you know, he can do that kind of thing in perpetuity as long as he's not trying to analyze anything in a studio. Yeah. And he's like our Don Cherry, but like just for doing absurd stuff. And again, I'm not trying to, you know, criticize the, I guess I am.

Wouldn't you not. do the thing where you get hit in the face with the shaving cream catapult if the punchline eventually is getting hit in the face with the pie. Yeah, I see what you're saying. It's the same thing. It's a double pie bit. Yeah. Now, classic TV mistake.

Now, I would have allowed it if the end of the bit was a line A slicing Ronick open and trying to remove his funny bone. If it was an operation callback. Right. Yeah, that would have been great. This is how you do it, JR. You know, in Finland, my grandfather was the first person to perform funny bone operation. He performed it on his best friend.

And he was good after that. His funny bone worked very well. His funny bone worked very well. He was very funny. So that was the Ronic line aid bit. So they're having some fun. They're doing the thing. They're making it happen.

See, I just realized now the whole ratings thing was just your way of wanting to talk about JR comedy bits. No, I get it. That's not true. But you know what's interesting about JR is that, like, I would pay $999 for his app unlike Mike Frant. I was just trying to bring it back. I'm sorry.

It had none. Tied it all in. It had nothing. I was literally listening to Jimmy Trainers' podcast on the way in that was discussing the app and it was the first thing on my mind. That's all I wanted. That's all I wanted to address it. That's it. Man, what you do with your downtime fascinates me?

Do you have any downtime anymore? Do you think what I, yes. Here, though. What do you mean here? Like, when you're here. No, I'm working, Greg. That's what I'm saying. Like, during the course of the day.

Downtown is what you're on the train and you're choosing to get angry about hot. Fortnite on the toilet. Of course. I walked the dog. I watched Stephen King's It. What you mean? They play at the yo-yo? No, no.

Oh, you walk a literal dog? Yeah, I rocked the baby in the cradle or whatever. I do all things during the day. Do you get any downtime here when all your friends are trying to play jokes on you? No, I'm not saying I have

downtime here. I'm just saying like, you know. No, it's like you told me that you now have bankers' hours, but it sounds like you almost do work in a bank. I don't have bankers hours at all. You don't listen. to a word I say, Greg. You said you have bank, well, like a, like a shitty bank that's open until 7.

I mean, I don't know what that means. I'm just saying, like, you always listen to the podcast or read a tweets that get you mad, and I want you to be happy. Yeah, your whole, like, the way that you tweet Twitter, tweet, fuck, treat, treat Twitter now, there it is. The way that you treat Twitter now, it's like being with a guy who went through AA. It's like you, I feel like you are talking down to me about being on Twitter. Dude, I was on Twitter all the time and not looking at this stuff. I feel like, I feel like you, you, you, you look down on me for being on Twitter. No, no, no, no.

I send you things on text and then you're like, get off of Twitter. When it should be things that we're laughing about? No, but you're angry about these things. But that's why you go on Twitter is to get angry. Ah, see. See that now, now it does feel like an AA thing where you're like, I'm fine. I don't need it. I don't need you to tell me.

I'm not angry. It's funny. I'm laughing, actually. Yeah. Like, I'm just saying, like, you would be... A little fucking bird-shaped chip you're about to put on the table to show me how over Twitter you are. Oh, I'm not over Twitter at all.

I just... You know, I... You follow 2,000 people on Twitter, Greg. That's why you're mad. Probably. You know, if you wanted to see Patrick Linae play with the Winnipeg Jets in your town, and you're an American and want to go and see them, even though you should be apathetic because it's Winnipeg.

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Right. Did you? It was, was it like, the only one I've ever done is the one with the zombie. Is that what you're wearing or no? Was there a zombie? It's a very, it's a very easy question.

It's a binary. question. Was there a zombie or not? I think, but like, it was zombie, it was zombie adjacent because, like, we were in a bunker and, like, something happened that, like, mutated stuff. And, like, in our escape room, there was, like, there were some zombie heads. Okay. So I don't technically know if it counts as a zombie escape. I did one with, uh, my buddy, actually for his bachelor party. And it was like, it was a thing where like the zombie virus got out and it affected the or infected and affected. The doctor who was there working on the virus. The doctor happened to be this extraordinarily cute little petite brunette who is like very much in my friend's wheelhouse.

So it was sort of distracting where it's like she's like, rah, rah, I'm both like, Hello Tiffany Amber Theison Wait, was it like a real person? Yeah, it was an actress playing the zombie Like in the escape room the whole time with you? Yeah. Wow, I didn't know. And she's doing a great job.

She's very much in character, but the whole time we're just like, oh God, please don't bite me. Zombie. Like your friends just going over and being like, hey, so, you know, if we get the cure, I guess, you know, you're doing anything later? Ah, the zombie's hugging me. Ah, help! But it was fun as shit, man.

I would totally do it again. I would totally do it again. The other really funny part was that we didn't have enough people to fill out a group. We had maybe six and you need like eight. So these two randoms from Sweden that were in New York, like just visiting. And I guess had like a fucking group on or something to go to the escape room with a zombie. We're like added to our team. And it was really fun.

We're like, Sven, you have to put the cube over there. Borka, borka, borka. We don't call it a cube in Sweden. It's great. It's fantastic. I would definitely do it again. I would definitely recommend it. All right.

Let's talk about two things that came up this week. First, one of the things was, I talked about on ESPN on ice this week, but I wanted to address it here. Willie Nielander and our good friend Justin Borton, who we love, talking about how Willie Nielander should take less money, sign with the Leafs, because of the plethora of sponsors. and other money opportunities that are in Toronto that cannot be found elsewhere. And you did not find this to be necessarily accurate. Like his argument is always, and Justin knows I love him, but his argument is like Wendell Clark, Clark Gillies, all the money they make in speaking and, you know, appearance

fees and stuff. And it's like, yeah. But like those guys played in the 70s and the 80s when guys weren't making the money they are today. Right. Which is kind of secondary to my point, which is always like if you, your argument is a player should take less than he's worth because I've already stopped listening. Like, a player should never take less than what he's worth ever when he's at his peak earning

potential. My beef with it was twofold. One, the idea that like only in Toronto can you find these fucking opportunities. Like if Willie Nealander went to the Detroit Red Wings right now, he would be the best forward on the Detroit Red Wings right now. Like, without question. Like, he would be the focal point. Like, he'd probably trump Dylan Larkin right now as being like the guy.

Are you telling me that that's not going to manifest itself in there being sponsorship opportunities in fucking a sports town like Detroit with an original six team? The other thing is that the financial gap between like what you think he should take as the fifth man basically on the totem pole in Toronto behind Austin Matthews, Mitch Marner, John Tavares, and probably Morgan Riley, versus how much he could make elsewhere as maybe like the second or third guy. that gap is not going to be made up with fucking golf appearances after he's done playing. So, yeah, it's like 20 years from now, too. Like, you're going to take less money now. And then also, again, the thing that bothers me, too, is, like, he's such a trade candidate that, like, you're going to now make it easier for the team to trade you. That can trade you instantly by taking less than you. Yeah.

And then on top of everything else, like, the entire thing is predicated on a thing that we all kind of assume is going to happen. But there's no guarantee that it will, which is the least. Leif's winning the cup. Yeah. If the Leifes don't win the cup, he's fucking Nick Andropoff. Like, he's, he's like, he's just a footnote to an another in a string of disappointments. I think we're all seeing the team and being like, it's fucking royalty already because

we all assume they're going to win. But what if they don't? What if they do? And then they trade him next summer. Like, people are going to forget about him. If the Leaves go on, then win two more Cups without him, it's just, the argument, they're going to take less money than you should. The argument they made is like, the fifth or sixth guy on the totem pole for the Yankees is still

a guy that makes a lot of money here doing endorsements and whatever the fuck. Like who? Like if you, okay, on those Yankee championship teams, who'd be the Willie Nealander? It wouldn't be Paul O'Neill. He was sort of important, but also all those guys made so much money that they're not hanging around anymore

to like glad hand people and stuff. Like they were baseball players. Your point's so fucking, I didn't even think about this, but your point's really true. The glad handing guys are guys like who'd be the guy, like an old, old ass, it's not Reggie. It'd be like,

and not Mattingly. Like Willie Randolph. Yeah, but like those guys get jobs as managers and base coaches and stuff. But like Joe Girardi, but he's a manager. I'm trying to think of like guys that are like, like Bernie Williams. Let me put it in like Mets terms from like 86.

Like Tim Tuffle. I mean, he's a manager kind of guy too. But again, those are all guys who played in an era where the money was nowhere near. what it is now. So it's like any of those guys who are still, like, Howard Johnson was managing in the minors and stuff because, like, they weren't making. Right.

Willie, again, what, the, Willie Nealander should. And, like, it's not like the Leaves are doing anything wrong. They're just using the CBA as the players agreed to it where you can take a guy like Willie Nealander and hold them hostage and no one's going to come and do anything to change it. So to Justin's credit, though, I mean, I do, I do wonder how long you can stay out if you're Willie Neelander and you're looking at this thing happening. You're just like, I feel like I want to be a part of this. Or do you not care?

You can't. You just want to get, you just want to get paid. Yeah, like that's, it's like Levyon Bell in football. Like, you can't, you know, like save the Steelers were like five and two right now. I forget what they are. I think they're like four and three or something like that. But like, it's a business. It's funny.

Everyone says it's a business until it's like their guy who's like holding out. And it's like, you should take less. Right. I can play with us. Right. Never do that. Never do that. Never do that.

It'll get fixed. It'll be fine. Sure. They'll be fine. Yeah. The other thing that happened this week, that's hilarious. speaking of the Red Wings. So for those of you who hadn't seen the story, Arbys, they have the meat. Meets. Meets. Sorry. Meets.

So they had a promotion for years with the Red Wings and with other teams in Detroit, where if a player on the Red Wings scored a hat trick, everybody got free curly fries the next day. This was also a thing where, like, if a Piston got a triple double, Um, if the, if Barry Sanders got a positive three yards rushing at any point in the fourth quarter. Like all these things. Yeah. Um, so the hat trick thing went on for years. At one point, and I looked back. I actually wrote about this on Puck Daddy.

At one point, they changed it to a free lace, like, roast beef sandwich and all the Red Wings fans lost their shit. They're just like, no, it's curly fries, fuckers. So they're like, all right, it's curly fries. So that was the promotion. through last season when the Red Wings entered officially their deep dive rebuild

and wouldn't you know it nobody had a hat trick last year for Detroit Red Wings was the last hat trick Aaron Dark's boyfriend whose name I should remember he's the Harry Potter guy You mean Daniel Radcliffe? Because they were at the Darren Helm Hat Trick game

I wonder if that was the last one Is Darren Ham the best play on the team? I wonder if yeah yeah that was the story So Darren Helm, I remember that. So they had four, I'm sorry, they had three hat tricks in the previous two years combined, no hat tricks last year. So lo and behold, in perhaps the single greatest harbinger of a team struggling mightily, Arby's has turned the hat trick for free curly fries promotion into any time the Red Wings as a fucking team score three goals, you get free curly fries.

That's where the bar is. That's the threshold now. The threshold is now if this entire team can muster three goals in a game in a league where teams are averaging three goals a game, basically, at this point, everybody gets free curly for us. All right, Darren Helm is not the last hat trick. Can you name the last three Red Wings to have hat tricks? Yes. Yes, I would do it in the voice of Daniel Recliffe. No, I won't.

They were in 16, 16, and 15. All right, so 16, 16, and 15. The last three hat tricks were Zetterberg. Nope. Okay. Larkin? Uh-uh. Okay.

Vanek? Nope. All right. Doing well. Abulcator. There's one. All right. October 9, 2015.

So that's one. It's not a repeat, right? It's three different people. Three different people. Okay. Abulcator. Abulacator. Nath.

Ness. Ness. Nope. Okay. Athanasiasia. Yeah, that's the guy. All right. Hang on.

I'm going to get this. Forward. Red Wings Franz Nielsen? Nope Okay Should I get a clue? Yeah, give me a clue

One's not a forward Oh, Mike Green? There's one. All right, got two, two down, one to go. You said two forwards. Jimmy Howard. All three different positions, right?

Is that what you're trying to say? You're sitting there with your eyes closed You go two forwards And I looked at you and I'm like, all right, I got to give him a clue. Yeah, because he's still my eyes closed. The other one, oh, fuck. The other one's probably like Nyquist.

Nope. Tatar. There you go. it is. I'm about to say Tater. Like, Larry the cable guy. Tomas, Tater!

You're a great, you're a great Canadian. Happy Taut. Former Vegas Golden Night Great. Thomas Tata. Tomosh. There you go. Montreal's pretty fucking good this year.

Everybody doubting Claude Julianne's not a good coach. That's not worth. So you're getting on board now. You're starting to get to the airport and look at the gates. You're seeing which teams are taking off and you're getting on the Montreal gate now. No, I'm not on their gate. have Kerry Price so it's like

Yeah At some point Shea Weber will come back And have people skate around them Just ruin the team Like coming back Wouldn't it be amazing Like that would be

That's a perfect hockey thing Which is you know All we have to do is survive Until Shay Weber gets back Shoeuvre comes back Habs lose eight in a row Like that would be the hockey thing That would be great

Yeah All right But yeah But yeah But yeah But yeah That's rough That's a new low

Nate Schmidt Signed a a new contract, despite being out with a PED thing, Nate Schmidt signed a brand spanking new contract with the Vegas Golden Knights, and did quite well for himself, actually. The contract, I'm vamping. The contract is six years, $35.7 million. Now, the breakdown of this contract made the comparables,

a collection of guys that you wouldn't want your contract compared to, including like, Annie McDonald's. You know, there's a part of me that really feels like McPhee and probably, to a greater extent, Bill Foley, are making the mistake of overpaying for good guys. Like, Fleury and Schmidt were arguably the two most popular players in the team last year, and now both of them are being heavily compensated. But Nishman is good. But Nishman is good. I completely agree. I think people were like kind of looking at his stats. And I mean, you have to remember that.

Like he was basically a third pairing guy over the capitals. Then he goes to Vegas. He gets a chance and becomes a really good. Borderline top pairing, probably second pairing guy. Had I really thought of this until now. But yeah, he was a third pairing guy in Washington. Fine. Goes to Vegas becomes awesome.

Get suspended for PEDs. Is there something there that we're not seeing or talking about? Well, we don't know what the thing is. still, do we? It could be anything. It could be another propitia thing, like the Jose Tadour won that one time. Remember that?

No, I just hadn't really said it out loud. But yeah, I would pay, I would pay Nate Schmidt to play defense on my team for that money. I think that's fine. That's a fair deal. Right?

Yeah. All right, good. Yeah. I'm glad we're in agreement. There's a lot of people bagging on that deal. Yeah, I mean, the part of the deal you're kind of worried about

is that like Vegas caught lighting in a bottle last year, and now it's like, I think it's still going to have it. Don't know. Don't know. But I like Nate Schmidt. I do too.

He's a good dude. I'm on board. I'm on board. There was something that we had to address from last week's show that people bought up. And I think it was on the main show and not on the Patreon. But in case it was on the Patreon. We were discussing the fact that there was never a Wolfman cereal. Oh, because there's like Boo Berry and Frankenberry, yeah.

Boobberry, Count Chocula, Frankenberry, yummy mummy, which I didn't even fucking know was a thing. Nope. But apparently the werewolf cereal was called fruit brute. Hmm. And so there actually was a Wolfman cereal that was created.

It makes sense because like you want to have like the brand theme. The full collection of like monsters, universal monsters. Right. You know, Frankenstein and, Dracula and the wolf man. Oh yeah, Count Chocula. Jesus, I forgot about Count Chocula.

Once last time you bought one of those. I haven't bought one of those in a long time, but now, like, we're talking about it, I think on the way home tonight, I might get, I might get a box of Chukkahuaqa. I don't think I ever bought them. I don't think my mom ever bought them for me. I was a lucky charms kid.

Yeah. Cookie Crisp. Ka'uuki Crisp. Corn pops. Corn pops. Love with corn pop. Corn pops are like weirdly gross, but delicious. Well, the problem is much like Kauki Crisp,

there's a, there's a, ticking clock on when you eat a corn pop to the point where it becomes too soggy and inedible do you know what I mean see I think of it the other way where like if you like that first bowl out of the box is great because they're fresh but like you know how a cereal box doesn't really keep it fresh like that once they start to get a little stale corn pops lose their luster yeah all right um this has been cereal this is Greg and Dave you know it's funny i was about to be a serial impression but i literally haven't listened to cereal in probably two years someone said season three it's going on now is supposedly pretty good they

did a thing where i think they're like they're like talking about the cleveland prison system or some shit this time i don't even know what it's about yeah i just served positive reviews and i was like oh i was i might get into that we talked about the hallway movie last week and how michael meyers is now 60 80 million bucks did a lot of money i have no i have no finger on the pulse anymore of what's going to do well at the box office. None whatsoever. Part of the, part of the gig for this movie was that they do a parody of,

I didn't see it, but I heard this, they do a parody of like true crime podcasts, or it's like two true crime podcasters going and exploring the legend of Michael Myers. I think it's a really fun like plot device, if that's the way it works. Yeah, it's clever. Yeah. I looked at it the other day, five of the top,

four of the top five podcasts are true crime. The only one that isn't is PODC of America, which is basically like true crime at this point. That's the politics one. I think the lesson here, obviously, is bring back law and order, is what I'm saying. Man, ripped from the headlines. Cisto and Anderson, they had a chemistry they weren't allowed to build on and it hurts me to this day.

Oh, no, Cisto was terrible. How dare you? How dare you, sir? Get out of our office. And Anthony Anderson went on to beyond blackish. He's done bigger and bigger and better things. Yeah, they're both on, I think. Sisto's on a popular show too, I think.

Parenthood, something like that. What? Isn't he on a show? I don't know. You don't like Jeremy Sisto. Jeremy Sisto is an actor. I was thinking about this last night, too, because I was watching, as per usual, 90-day fiance.

And there's a guy on 90-day fiancé. He lives in North Carolina. He's a workout freak that also is a real estate guy who played college baseball. Muffucker looks exactly like Nick Kroll, and I've never liked Nick Kroll. Which is tough for me because I do like John Mullaney. but he does so many things with Nick Kroll. Oh, they're a package deal now. They're a package deal.

So, like, I would like, oh, John Mullaney is an old man. That sounds great. Oh, Nick Kroll's the other old man. Well, fuck. It just does nothing for me. And Jeremy Sisto's in that category of guys. There's nothing for me. Oh, I was going to tie it back in.

Yeah, Jeremy Sisto, he was here. He was going to be on 90 days. There was some fucking movie that he was in, and I hated him in that movie. Jeremy Sisto? Yeah. Six feet under? He's great. See, never watched six.

I was never a 6,500 guy. Hang on here. I'll find it. He was definitely one of those, like, Kevin Williamson sort of, like, a screaming, know what you did last summary type deals. Yeah, I was just going to say, I can't really remember. Oh, no, he was the fuck. He was in, he was the, he was that guy.

He was in Clueless. Didn't like him in Clueless. Oh, right. He was the douchebag and Clueless. He was the ducbagon Clueless. I forgot he was in that. Let's see here. What was the air thing that I didn't like him in?

Now we're getting into 2000s. Maybe it was just clueless. I didn't like him in. Is that possible? Boy, he saw him in like 1998. That's it. That's it. Muffucker holds a grudge, apparently.

Dude was being all gropey. Oh, hideaway. This was the movie I was thinking of. This was a movie where it was like, it had Jeff Goldblum and Alicia Silverstone in it. No idea what this is. It was directed by the guy who did the lawnmower, man. It was like a really shitty horror movie.

It was like a Hatch Harrow. Oh, Jesus. Oh, the fucking Nutcrackerad. Hatch Harrison had a car accident with his car. This sounds like the setup of a match game question. At first, the doctor said he was dead, but then they succeeded in bringing him back to life after two hours using blank. I said, Bip.

In no time, Hatch starts to have strange sensations and discovers that he is now united with a mad killer. Mad killer, yo, who has. had entered his mind during his death. This was literally, Jeff Goldblum was the dad, and Jeremy Sisto was the killer. Okay. And I hated this movie so much, and I thought he was terrible in it. Wow.

Look at this fucking cast, though. Alfred Molina, Ray Don Chong? You should have given him a second chance? Maybe. I never did anything for me on Law & Order either. I know. I'm sorry. Just how it works.

You mentioned Halloween. I should mention two things that I really loved that I don't know how to account for. I watched most of the new Adam Sandler comedy special on Netflix. It's really funny. You have the reaction of this. It's like, you're corpseing. I don't want to comment. I'm, you need to see it. I'm, I'm afraid for you at this point. It's, it's, it's funny. Like, they do a thing. It's not like him on stage. It's like, he's like sitting in a barclanger and a pair of sweats. Yeah, counting his money. Telling stories about David Spades. He's, uh, it's like five different comedy shows that they kind of cut between that he did.

So think of like how they do shows where it's like, you know, they tape a couple shows on different nights. They kind of piece him together. In this case, he's in like five different venues. Chris Rock already did this. Well, he did it too now. Oh, God. And it works for him.

Stealing from Chris Rock. He's his friend, I guess, so he can probably do it. Yeah, because it's snappy and funny and there are songs and I laugh a lot. Oh, there are songs. It's Adam Sandler. Does he say hibitty-divit at any point? Well, he doesn't. And what's the Adam Sandler movie?

that just came out At least you like an Adam Stanley movie No, no, no, the comedy special Oh, just the comedy special. Oh, just the comedy special. Oh, right, right, right. I fucking loved venom.

Let's, let's discuss why, real briefly. It's because the movie, it is very much like everybody said where it's like a 1990s Marvel movie or a DC movie where like it's just shit but it's great.

It's like one, like a Blade 3 kind of quality where like it's a terrible movie but it's super fun. I can't tell I can't recommend this movie enough after a margarine and a Corona which is what I had before I there it is because I know the movie itself is bad but goddamn Tom Hardy gives everything you possibly want in the role it's like a jekyll and hide story and he and he has this like friendship bordering on gay relationship as many have pointed out with venom where like he's like he's like in this nondescript sort of New York by way of San Francisco accent. Like, I'm like, I can't do this anymore.

I gotta get this away from me. And then like, Venom's like, Eddie, I love you, Eddie. We are together now, Eddie. Is that how it doesn't, is the comics? Has Venom talk in the comics? I don't know how it works. I like that was a Tofer Grace Venom. This movie is great.

That's my original. They literally, like, Venom, like, the symbiote comes off of him. And then they, like, Tom Hardy is now talking to this, like, CGI black goo. with eyes. He's like, we can't go around killing people, but I'm hungry, Eddie. And fucking Tom Hardy does the voice of Venom, too.

It's great. See, oh, he's, like, mocking him or does the voice of Venom? Oh, no, no. He does his own voice, the nondescript accent, and then he's also the voice of venom. By the way, I think you're also describing the plot to little shop of horrors more than any other movie. It is very much reminiscent of a little. I was thinking about that. And like there's a, there's, I'm going to give away one of the best lines of movie, but I'll give a fuck.

Like at one point, people are going to be mad at him? Tom Hardy's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, you're not going to eat any more people, are you? And then Venom's like, most likely. It's great. It's fucking great. So Venom eats people. Yes. Where does it go?

I don't know. Right. Because. In Tom Hardy's tummy, apparently. Eddie. Man. I just realized that my venom voice is very much like my Adam Sandler voice. is sort of a very

synergistic conversation. Eddie, ogle, boogle-le-do. Eddie, go to eat people. See, now that I might go see. If it was Adam Sandler doing the ways of that. Actually, it sounds like one of those Adam Sandler fake movies from from funny people.

Funny people, yeah. I can't go eat and go around eating people. Eddie. Oh, Eddie. Adam Sandler is Venom. Oh, damn. Phenem was good, though. I'm going to like it.

All right. Question of the week time. So, as we do the podcast, it's the week before old Hollow's Ween. Oh, yeah. And we wanted to ask you a couple of Halloween-related questions. We should say that as of right now, we have not seen the final tally for the Supulte episode this month. but the one that was winning is assigned a Halloween costume to every NHL team.

Yeah, just 31 jokes we got to think up now. That's right. One of us just writes jokes all day long, but now has to do more jokes. 31 of them. 31. About 31 specific things. 31 thoughts about Halloween costumes. Looking forward to it.

Can we do it like Elliot's where 15 of the thoughts are one thing? We just do like a division. The central is Darth Vader. Come on, everybody reads 31 thoughts. We know we love Elliot, but doesn't it piss you off when it's like, you know, spoke to Max Domi this week and Max Domi told me he's going to shoot more. Thought 12.

Thought 13. These are Jim Rome's thoughts. Domi also told me that he's going to escape better. Thought 14. I asked Jomey about the time that his father, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, this is one fucking thought, Elliot. Look, look. Again, sometimes you don't have 31 thoughts, and you have a brand, and Elliot's brand

is a very popular, well-read, well-informed brand, and sometimes that's what you got to do. I also get pissed off when Elliot gets down to around Thought 29 or 30, and it becomes like a Larry King column, where all of a sudden Thought 30 is like... That's the best part! I was listening to the Crazy Mountain Boys' Bluegrass album the other day, pretty good stuff, Thought 31. No, that is not a thought. You were just jealous.

That is a non-sequitur. We would all like to write that thought. You know, you just get to a part, you're just like, season. in five of friends, top notch. This thought 31. Like, you just go to the next thought. I just, I feel, I can always pick out the thoughts that I feel like are the thoughts that he just had to add to get to the, to the thought count.

Like, Edmondson sure could use another defenseman. Yeah, come on. Like, that's a problem when you pick, like, the title of the thing. Once you do it once, you do it forever. Like when Labyrinth did what we learned, which is now 31. takes because, yeah, who Canada. Is that what they call it? Oh, you didn't, I told you this story, I thought.

Oh, I didn't know. They made him change the name of the column. I did not realize that. Because what we learned, like, who would know what that means after 10 years of reading it every Monday? Doing it forever. Yeah. They made him change the name, and Lambert would only agree to change it if it could be 31 takes, which is great.

But when his bit is, like, one for each team. Yeah. This is very regimented. And also, like, he links out to everything within there, too. Like, that's a labor-intensive. That's a labor-in-tensive. It's a labor-intensive to add it, too. But I just, yeah, I love it.

So, but Elliot is, like, he's got to come up with 31 things. But I think his gig is maybe even easier than Lambert's in the sense that it could just be, like we said, six of the same thing. One about the Crazy Mountain Boys Bluegrass Band, and then whatever 31 is, which is basically whatever book he's reading. Yeah. You know. finished Belichick by Ian O'Connor. Good solid stuff. Thought 31.

No, it's football. Wow. Not even a thought. See, what if he endorsed your book? What if it was like, Thought 31? Mine was a hockey book. Yeah. It's hockey-centric.

That makes sense. Oh, so this is, all right, I understand. Am I the only one who holds 31 thoughts in such high regard that I want the thoughts to be of that high quality all the way through? Wow. All right. Come on. No? Just.

All right. I'm just saying. I'm just saying that some of the thoughts are, it's one thought, but then there's multiple thoughts for that one thought. Yeah. But I will take you back to English class. That is, that is an outline form. Man, this is all built up. A main title.

Let it out. And then underneath is the, is the A's and the ones and the twos. Right. But only one main title. So are you, would you be happier if it was like horse racing where like if there was a dual entry one and one A would that make you happier? Yes. Okay. I think that would be actually more palatable.

Elliot, take care of this for Greg. Yeah. Yeah. Make sure thought 4A next week is heard Puck Soup talking about this column. Yeah. And then just leave it at that. Subscribe here. Oh, yeah.

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All right. The question of the week was, give us your hottest Halloween hot take and then admit your most lamest grown-worthy costume. Rachel writes in, give me all of your mini boxes of nerds. I don't need any other candy. My problem with mini boxes of nerds was always that I... It doesn't feel like a Halloween candy. No, it definitely is. I just feel like it left me feeling. cheated because there wouldn't be enough nerds in there for me.

Oh, this box is so small. It's basically just like fucking sugar cracks, so then you'd have it, and you're just like, I want more, and there's not enough in there. But it's fine. You got to have like four or five boxes to really, like, satisfy the sugar. Rachel says, I couldn't come up with a costume,

so my grandma threw a sheet over me, glued some tree branches on it, and hung an apple around my neck, and I went as the tree, from the Garden of Eden. Wow. Well, a bite should have been taken out of it, I guess, right? For the bit.

Or it's pre-bite. Yeah, that's fine. My grandmother would not allow me to escape the village and find out that we weren't living in olden times. Oh, wait, no, that wasn't the rest of it. Brian Roberts. Baby kicks. Wait, that's got to be Twix, right? Not kicks.

Probably baby twixt ten times better than regular-sized ones. Yeah. Yeah, Twix probably auto-correct That makes sense Um Wait, yeah, I could get behind that actually Wait, mini twigs are better than regular It's the same thing

Yeah, but there's, that's a smaller portion Less caramel getting up your teethus But if you like it, you would want, That's a weird... No, no, that's not true. Portion control is important. For example, McDonald's is coming out with a double sausage McMuffin with egg.

I don't fucking need that. Oh, I thought it was the pancake syrup sandwich one. No, you can get that too. double any of them. I don't need a double breakfast sandwich. I need two breakfast sandwiches on their own. Nobody needs it. No. Everybody wants it. A double cheeseburger is great,

but two separate breakfast sandwiches living on their own not stacked on top of each other is better than a double-stacked breakfast sandwich. Full stop. Okay, I see what you're saying. Okay, thank you. And hence, mini-twicks. Right. Timothy,

writes in, in Canada, we have rockets. Not like the rockets we have here. But if they're in line, we'll shoot them across the border. Fucking levy. And they are the best things. They are the best things. What are they?

The rockets. No, no, no, hold on. I'm going to tell you. In the U.S., they are often called smarties. Oh, yeah. Smarties are rockets in Canada. Smarties, I know are the grossest candy, but I used to, like, just take them straight out of the packet

and just bite them all out at once. Timothy goes on to say, we have smarties that are different, more like an M&M, we are a better candy nation. So rockets are smarties and smarties are M&Ms. Smarties. No, I don't think smarties are M&Ms. In Canada, they are. I thought the smarties in Canada were closer to, like, they were still, they weren't

chocolate-y. Maybe they are, yeah. Oh, I know you're talking about. Right. They're like in a sleeve, but they're like M&Ms, but they're not. They're shaped like M&Ms. Yeah, they're shaped like M&Ms, but they trick you. But I think they're still sugary.

Right. Okay. But they're still fine. Timothy said he once went as an aircraft carrier. He just carried a plastic plane around. Eh. Hmm. I mean, if you're wearing like a gray pant, gray shirt thing and you, like, have the, like, the, you know, the road stripes. I don't know.

I have no idea what the deck looks like. Joey, Joey, Werble or Werbly, and his handle is Wurbs of Wisdom, which is pretty fucking great. Orange are the best starburst is his hot take. Pink is the best starburst. I'll give you the hottest take ever. All starbursts are the same, but your brain interprets it based on the color of the rapper and the color of the cube. You know, it's funny, my dad for a long time subscribed to a beer of the month club. And I would have to tell him occasionally, dad, this ho-ho Christmas beer tastes very much like the Memorial Day for our soldiers beer.

And I really do think it's the same fucking beer over and over again just with a different label. but he wouldn't hear it. Joey Werble-Werbly says, dressed as a vampire hockey puck once, basically a black circle with bloody fangs. It sounded cooler in my young mind. There's still some effort to put into that. Yeah.

That's work. It's a good hockey puck. If your team sucks, ah, dad jokes. But on bum. Skillians writes in, Most grown-worthy costume, I went as a sexy cigarette.

That's pretty... But I mean, is there any of the guy? Yeah, that's... I'm trying to pick... I say a picture. You see that... You see there's a new one, the sexy... Gritty?

The sexy lufa. Oh, sexy lufa? Just the lufa. Just showing some legs. Oh, man, do you not show that to Bill O'Reilly. Candy hot take. Recy's cups are overrated and Skittles are a headache and a bag. Recy's cups are not overrated.

Recy's cups are the best candy outside of Butterfingers. So that person means the mini ones, right? Those are the cup? Are you saying cup? like the actual standard two in a package. Does he mean the mini ones in the foil? That's what I thought. I mean, like those are overrated.

No. Skittles are overrated as well. Okay. I'm kind of with, I think I'm with this take, depending on the peanut butter cup in question. Risi, I'll tell you what, the worst Risi cups, the giant one. They actually get better as they get smaller. How you like that?

People, I think I've argued with Lambert about this. He tells me like the mini cup and the big cup are completely different, like, flavors and taste. I always found the smallest one, the toy Reesey cup. You just put the whole thing in your mouth. Right. I always found that to be, like, more oily than any other form of the Recy cup. I think they're the same.

I'm just saying, it's like there's a Reese's factory where they have a formula. Like, I doubt they're, like, changing the peanut butter and chocolate. At this point, I'm wondering if you own, like, they live glasses that allow you to see through all the marketing and the world. They're both Reese. All the Starbursts are the same. All the Reesies are the same. Well, I don't believe the Starburst one.

That's a bit. But the Rees' thing, see, again, you can't tell what I'm doing a bit or not. The Rees are, I'm telling you, they're the same. Like the egg, the Reese's eggs, I think, are different, but mini regular same. Kishir Hari, who set up the Adams Dabbage interview for us, by the way, and thanks for that. Oh, did he? Thanks, man. Everyone clamors after the house with the full-sized candy bars, but it's all about stocking up on

the miniatures, that is a preposterous hot take. A full-sized butterfinger is like finding gold. But you were just talking about portion control of the Twix? Now you want the big ones? I'm saying portion control for things that are better in mini form.

A full-sized butterfinger is better than a mini butterfinger. Full stop. It's the same boy. It's not. He said he dressed as Apu when he was 15. He did the voice and he's not proud about it. Yeah. Times changed, my friend. Yeah, I can see that.

that. Granville Powers. Granville Powers. He's the man. Plain Hershey's are unbeatable. That is a fucking hot take of hot takes. Oh, you got to get some... A plain Hershey is just like...

You got to get some almonds in there. Or something. Yeah. He said he used to wear a metal green lantern ring on Halloween and say he was him in his civilian disguise. That's pretty good. Wow. It's my night off.

I'm just... That's some shit of like, I just want to go out and get candy, right? Yeah. Put the least amount of effort possible into it. I love it. It's pretty good. Tyler H., if you aren't giving out either mini or full chocolate bars based on volume of children in the area, then you aren't Halloweening right.

Skittles are acceptable, but no off-brand shit or Halloween-only trash, like candy corn. Off-brand candy... I completely agree with because at this point, you can go to Target and get any bag of candy for as much as you'd spend on off-brand candy. I feel like this person that asked the question, they just ranted about people who give out bad candy. Like, what's his, I thought we were asking what your candy is. Tyler H. also says he dressed up like an Xbox once. That takes effort. It does.

Yeah. Everyone's got their candy things. Van Can Fan Man. writes in Hot take Candy corn is delicious I don't care what anyone or everyone

says it's trash Yeah it's not good I can't defend candy corn at all I know someone who once went as a bus stop Literally it was just a white sheet

With a bus schedule written on it And felt Is that what a bus stop Looks like in Canada Wait what is the bus stop A white sheet With a bus schedule

written on it And they said they were a bus stop sure Canada is a magical land Greg full of drugs or anything's possible Brian Woeman writes in Butterscotch is the top tier candy How would you feel when you used to get grandma's suckers

Yeah I'm not a fan I was never a fan unless it was like the minty one Like any sort of like fancy twisted thing like butterscotch I usually yeah I would go off to the side He also said he went as stylish Freddie Krueger Freddie Krueger. Bitch. She'll always have to add that in when you're talking about

Freddy Krueger. What is stylish Freddy Krueger? I don't know. He's got like a non-torn sweater and a fedora maybe. Like you'd wear the mask and the glove and then just have like a tux on? Freddie Koolger? I don't know. Sorry.

I mean the... Sean P. Boyle writes in, Screw people who give out full king-sized candy bars. Halloween candy is an abundant in diverse assortment of fun-sized servings. So his contention is that on Halloween, you should come home with a plethora of different things and not giant hunking big-time candy bars. I'm with him on this. Like if you get the big butterfinger, as you say, that's great, but I'd rather have the five minis.

Sean also said he wore hockey equipment, added blood out of his nose and blacked out a tooth and everybody loved it and he felt shame. Man, that is kind of lazy. I mean, I've done the goalie pads Halloween costume too without any of the makeup or anything. It was just golly mask, leg pads. That was it. Nick Bennett writes in, Reesies are the best candy, but Mr. Goodbars are the most underrated.

Mr. Goodbar's rank third in the miniatros bag, right? Like regular Hershey's last, I can go either Crackle or Special Dark is number one. Yeah, the regular Hershey's don't do anything for me. It's just regular chocolate. He said he has been Harry Potter like four years in a row. Goes around house-to-house, talk about that Darren Hatt trick. He's like, boy, he's the best player in Red Wings history.

love. Rob says a kinder egg, a toy, and a treat. Rob, how old are you? I could not remember. I don't even remember my kid getting kinder eggs in their bags. Kinder eggs just literally were legalized here. What's a kinder egg? Kinder egg is the egg that has like a toy inside of it.

It was banned here for a while because kids are fucking dumb and they used to swallow a toy. Wait, they were just giving out toys and not candy. No, it's in a chocolate egg. Oh, you eat it into a toy in the middle? That's insane. Hold on. That can't be right. Rob said when he was the middle school, he thought he was macho enough to go cross-dressing.

He looked like a bi-curious little turd with a squeaky voice. Oh, it's like hollow, though. Okay. I was picturing like a thick all the way through thing, and then there was like a, you know, car in the middle. Like, that could be bad. Finally, Matt Papik, or Papik, sure. Candy corn is amazing, especially mixed with honey roasted peanuts. All right, I'm willing to try that.

I've not tried that before. might have to come into that with an open mind. Oh, I don't know. Do you not like Honey roasted peanuts? Do you think that's the problem with that? It's both of them together. Honey roasted peanuts legit is like something I, I, that's my potato chip of like,

I eat one and then I have to eat the bag. And that's something that makes me just feel like total shit afterwards, but it's so good going down. Oh, like, that's a thing like I'll never buy in the store, but like if they're around somewhere, I'll have a company. Right. Because I can't have a lot of it. Like I've had it on like road trips before.

I met like a 7-Eleven. Like, I don't want to have like a fucking hot dog or something. You got to get the sleeve of them. Yeah, that's right. Because if you get the thick rectangular bag, you're going to get the whole fucking thing. If you get that sleeve of them, perfect portion size. Or you just get like the round tin? Like, forget it.

The round tin? Yeah. What are you? What are you doing? Fucking, fucking chewing tobacco of, uh, of honey roasted peanuts? You never seen a planter's tin? You don't know. No.

Yes, you have. Not rich. Planters. They win in the millions. They're in the grocery store, man. Oh, you're talking about, fucking, you're talking about a can. Yeah. It's a tin can.

A tin? What? What was this? The 1920s? Tin exists today. It's a can. It's a can of nuts. Yeah, but it's not a normal can.

It's a tin can. It's a tin can. Again, you're way too fancy. Sorry, sorry if my monocle and tuxedo while we're doing the podcast is a little too fancy for you. Do you call it aluminum or foil? I call it aluminum. Matt writes in, candy corn is amazing, especially mixed with honey roasted peanuts. And I was once Jew Baca, a Hasidic Jew wookie.

And he's given us a full. photo. Oh, yeah, there it is. And there he is, Jubaka. Wow. All right. That's a hell of a thing. All right.

Finally, Becky, not a Becky writes in. Milky Way dark for the win. Did you ever put candy bars in the freezer or have anybody in your family that did? Because my dad would always do that all the time. I never understood it. Milky Ways you do it for. I never understood it either because it fucking hurt your tea and you chew it. It wasn't, I never got that at all.

And also, like, they make ice cream Milky Ways that you can buy. So it was one of those things that I never. understood. There's ice cream for all the candy bars. Yeah. There's Nassau's Crunch bars. Right. Kind of like how my dad would tape entire seasons of shows during the era in which you could buy entire seasons of shows on VHS. Never understood that either. She went as a Halloween slut nurse, kitten, baby doll thing. It was supposed to be ironic, but really just became the thing I hated.

It's the classic joke going over your head type deal. All right. That's about it. That's enough. So that's fuck suit for this week. All right, one more. Let's go Penn's right, so getting Reese's cups is overrated, spreading peanut butter on a Hershey's is better. I can get down with that, but I'm not in, to forsake Reese's cups.

But peanut butter, like dunking your chocolate Hershey's shit in a jar of peanut butter is great. Have you ever done that? But then the peanut butter jar is ruined. So you have chocolate in there all the time when you want. I just have a regular. sandwich. He was once the road to hell. Just a shirt with a road covered in the word good intentions on the back, 666 on the shoulders, and I meant to do the right thing on the front. That's a real complicated question. That's a thinker. Yeah. That's a thinker. All right.

That's the show for this week. I'm Greg Wysinski. You can listen to my other podcast. ESPN and ICE. And you can find me on Twitter at Wyshinsky. And I wrote about the Red Wings thing. And Lozo gave me props before the show about the oral history of the Sarah Palin curse that I wrote this week. Oh, I never read it. I know, but you gave me props in the fact that we got it published.

That you got to do it. I was like, wow. Yes, it was great. Where can people find your shit? Always late with Katie Nolan. I took the week off this week. Went to an escape room, as we told you. Build some team.

Coming back next week. Strong. On fire. Wednesday. Wednesdays. Wednesdays. ESPN Plus, we're going to have dogs this week. It's going to be good stuff. Keep in mind that if you get ESPN Plus for Katie's show, which Lozo writes on,

you can also watch hockey, as we mentioned this week. You can watch hockey. Never been a Crosby versus a McDavid game on NBCSN, but there was one on ESPN plus this week. I didn't realize that was an ESPN Plus game wasn't there certainly was look at that yeah you could have you could have enjoyed the content of both Katie Nolan and hockey and like indirectly me I don't really yeah you know rate ourselves based on ESPN plus or ESPN minus it's more about you know overall team achievement and how farther I am in my career than Carr McDavid is and you know probably will be at my age are you done many gold medals

I mean, like not a metal per se, but like gold metals, plural. You know, chances of a gold medal game going back to overtime again pretty slim. So I don't even know if Connor would have the opportunity to do what I've achieved as a team, obviously. You know, Team Canada. Brian Miller saw as nightmares, waking nightmares about, you know, overtime. Did you ever get Bill McCreery's gold medal for that team or not? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Bill's a good Canadian.

and boy. Yeah, I stayed at my place in Cole Harbor, you know, just talking about, reminiscing, you know, just fixing things, you know, around the house, not necessarily like games. That'd be illegal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd be frowned upon. We'd be cheaters like Russia. I mean, I'm just throwing a nation out there as an example, you know, nation that, you know, had an active doping scandal, had a hole in the wall that used to the past pea samples through. Or so I have a, told. Okay. Yeah. Great stuff. All right. Thanks everybody for listening. We'll talk to you next week. Bye. Bye. beam, the smart compact soundbar for your TV. The beam lets you play everything you love, from music to radio to movies to TV to podcasts and more with a rich sound that fills the room.

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