Puck Soup - John C. McGinley

Episode Date: October 13, 2016

Greg and Dave talk hockey with actor John C. McGinley (Scrubs, Platoon, Office Space) about being in Chris Chelios's "Malibu Mob," leaving the Stanley Cup on the beach by accident, working with Oliver Stone, his greatest improv'd line and Stan Against Evil, his bloody great new IFC show. Plus, our 10 hopes and dreams for the 2016-17 NHL season, P.K. Subban's controversial quote and marketable NHL players, the concept of "locker room talk," Ken Bone, Matt LeBlanc's acting career, listener mail and which NHL team Jon Taffer should coach.

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And I'm Greg Wachiansky and Natsin. I'm Greg Wischinski of Yahoo Sports Fuck Daddy Blog. And I'm Kate Hudson for Fabletics. Damn, I was in my mind, I made a bet with myself that said Ken Bone joke right there. No, no, no, no, no. This is going to be my thing now is to point out celebrities that endorse shitty things that nobody wants. And by the way, I didn't realize it until I started to look it up to make sure I had one. Like, celebrities endorse everything.

I don't want to go into the full list now and spoil the shows for the year. I don't want to get off on a rant here. I don't want to get up on a rant here. Thanks, Dennis Miller, circa 88. This capitalism thing is just not working, babe. Yeah. It's like when Copernicus. Like when Socrates is out here endorsing the sundial.

You're pushing a stone up a hell and you got a balker eating your guts. Well, thank you. Everybody who watch the John Lovett seasons of S&L. rolling in the aisles right now. Everybody else is like, why are they talking about that Fox News commentator? Keith Overman's like,

good joke, guys. Oh, by the way, you're in Puck Soup. Please go on. Ah. No, that's it. No, I thought you were going to talk about the celebrity.

There's a lot. In Japan, there's a lot. They all go overseas and do it because they don't think that we could ever see the ads except there's this amazing invention called the intranet, I believe. Right, like when Joey was selling

purple lipstick for men in Japan on that episode of the TV show Friends. Have we ever talked about my favorite Joey thing on friends. Oh my God, let's do it right now. Here it comes. Cancel the show. Let's do this. Cancel the three ring circus. It's the episode where he has to do a nude scene in that show. That was just on last night. Right. And he wraps lunch meat around his penis because he has to look uncut. That was it. But he goes with silly putty. Call her on the line.

Sorry, my computer Bing. He goes with silly putty or they went with lunch meat. Well, like she like put together some lunchmeats and there is some actual things with that involved. like fabric, but he said the one that worked best was silly putty. So he went with that and then it fell off. And the guy who was on 30 Rock was like, oh my God, your penis fell off. L.O.L. And that was that episode. That was on last night.

My favorite thing is still the milk. I can watch him pour that milk down his face once a day, every day for the rest of my life and laugh my balls off. Think they'll use that penis joke again on Man with a Plan? What's Man with a Plan? Man With a Plan is this new sitcom on CBS. where all old comedic actors go to die. Is that one with Joel McHale?

No, no, no. That's another. Okay. I watch football on Sunday, too, but I tune the commercials. You have to understand. There's a CBS sitcomaverse where Matt LeBlanc, Kevin James. That's the name of the show?

Man with a plan. Kevin James, Joel McHale. They all exist in the CBS sitcomaverse. Like, Joel. And isn't Ted Danson back on CBS, too, in The Good Life? He's on... With Kristen Bell or is that on NBC? He's on NBC.

And is it called The Good Life? Sure. Okay. It's like everything I've heard about the show reminds me of defending your life with Albert Brooks. But like, the man with the plan, I remember seeing the commercial during the Jets game on Sunday and they were like, Matt LeBlanc returns to television. I'm like, fuck you.

Showtime is television. And he was on it for many, many years, you assholes. Oh, this is, I have a really, really, I'm very optimistic now about Man with a Plan. First line of the variety review, women, they go to work now. Who knew? Oh, boy. Oh, it was Jenna Fisher. No, no.

You really need to catch up on your man with a plan stuff. Jenna Fisher was originally cast and then they got rid of her. Oh. Because she had absolutely no chemistry with the comedic genius that is Matt LeBlanc. I don't like your tone when you say comedic genius that is Matt LeBlanc. That man is a comedic genius. So who do they replace her with? Who's the big name like woman actress?

on the show. That's now going to be like his love interest. Oh, Merrill Streep. Oh. I don't know. I don't know if she's really, you know, right for that part. There's a game that Doug Benson plays called the IMDB game. And the way it works is that when you go to IMDB, every, every actor or actress has four things, four like posters under their name. The four things they're best known for. What are the four things that Matt LeBlanc is best known for? Friends, episodes. Ed

Okay And And Boy Yeah He's in some really bad movie That I think he's in a lot of bad That he wrote I think

It's like a really bad movie Being friends with the character The actors on Friends doesn't count That's not actually one of the entries Friends The Monkey Movie episodes And Oh

Oh Oh Um The The remake of the old TV show with the space and the and Gary oldman. Oh, a lost in space. Lost in Space.

Yeah, with the Space Monkey and William Hurt, sleepwalking through another role. That was a really bad movie. Dad, dad, there's a meteor coming right at the ship. Wait, I want to click now and see the answer. The answer for those watching at home, Friends, Joey, Charlie's Angels, where he played Drew Barremor. Cameron Diaz's boyfriend? No, the other one. Drew Baramore?

Lucy Lou's boyfriend. his boyfriend that didn't know what she did for a living. And episodes. Joey. Actually, I mean, I thought the fourth thing would be his appearance in the Rembrandts, I'll be there for you video. But little, that's not one of them. I think people forget just how nutty of a phenomenon of friends was.

Like, I know looking back now, it's corny and bad and campy and shitty sitcom-esque, but, like, it was before the explosion of peak TV where everybody kind of watched the same five or six channels. Yeah. And, like, that's why I find it so funny when, like, entertainment week. or whatever we'll write up, like, everybody's watching new girl. I'm like, literally that is...

I know. You could, it is not even comparable to what used to be as far as everybody's watching X, X show. Like, people just watch an entire season of stranger things and then don't stop talking about it for like eight months. Right. And then, like, what was the other one? We just, you just said it.

The one with the girl from the office, but the red hair who also has a commercial... Oh, Kimmy Schmidt. Yeah, you said that. People, I mean, tweeted about that nonstop for like two months. I haven't seen anybody mentioned it. I know it's still going, but like... I think the Walking Dead is maybe a show

that has that, isn't that zeitgeist of it being a shared cultural experience? I didn't realize that was still on too. I saw a commercial for that where the dude from the comic book movie, the comedian guy, the bat. First of all, here's the thing I've never understood in movies is like a menacing man holding a baseball bat, right? He's going to do

some killing. And he has like a spike in the bat or like a chain around the bat? A barbed wire around the bat. The fucking bat will kill the person. You don't need to wrap it in barbed wire. Like, like, imagine that. Like, you come out and you're like, Dave, I'm going to kill you. And you're holding a bat. And I'm like, I'm fucking afraid of you. And you put barbed wire on it. And I'm like, whoa. I am no, I am no Ken Hitchcock when it comes to military history. But, but don't you think

that's basically a bayonet? Like, if I can't get you with my primary mode of bludgeoning, at least I'm going to, I'm going to fuck you up with the barbed wire. But like, if you make contact with the barbed wire, you're pretty much making contact with the bat. I think it's like a glancing blow. Just like, glancing blow. Oh, I'm scratched. You've got me. Oh, like, imagine, like, a Civil War gun with, like, a bayonet at the end of it, but, like, wrapped around the bayonet is like, I don't know. And you're like, you're like, hey, man, that looks pretty bad. I'm like, I know I need to get some antiseptic and then boom, with a bat when you're not looking. There are so many dumb things in movies and TV shows like that where especially, here's the thing too I love is like, all right, I got a gun.

I got a pointed at you. You're scared. I'm getting ready to kill you. I'm asking you questions. I want to know a thing. And then I cock the gun. Okay, I'll tell you everything. Like, wait, so if the gun couldn't fire before then?

Apparently the gun can just fire a little bit quicker. There's that and there's the fact that whenever somebody has coffee or tea, it's an empty fucking cup and we all know it. You ever notice that? It's an empty fucking cup or it's there to be too hot or to provide a spit take. Yes. That's the only time there's something in the cup is when it spills. Whenever someone's just carrying it for show and they, like if you carry four Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts and set it down, it has a weight to it. You can just tell when they slide it on the table, they're just four empty cups.

My favorite thing of all time in any movie or show when it comes to that is every, and it's a fact, and I'm sure there's a super cut about it somewhere. Every single paper shopping bag that someone is holding will have some large loaf of bread, probably a bagget sticking out of it. Because that's what you do when you go shopping is you get the baguette. But it's to signify that that's a grocery bag. Otherwise you'd be like, oh, it's just a bag of dildos. Is Kevin going out shopping for dildos again? that's actually a really good idea is to have a giant dildo

sticking out of the bag to signify dildo shopping. You're like a scary movie parody. Right. Honey, I'm home. Did you bring the dildos? No, it's actually groceries. You can sell by the baguette.

I don't know. That's not a bag yet. The other thing, too. Remember, this usually happened in 80s movies. Because this was on the other day. Say anything. Classic with John Cusack.

There's a scene when he first meets the dad that's like ripping off the old people, John Mahoney. John Maloney. Mahoney. Mahoney? Yeah. John Bum.

whatever. John, something Irish. And he's just like, so, what's your future plans there, Lloyd? And Lloyd does the whole thing. Like,

I don't want to do anything. I'm not going to buy anything sold or processed or processed or processed. Or processed a thing bought or sold. And, like, it's like a long sort of like monologue that's like, you know, goofy and charming. And he's like,

I want to be a kickboxer, but I don't know if I'm great. You got to be great. I got to get some fights in. I got to be, I think I'm good. But then like, everyone's reaction at the table doesn't match what he said.

this would happen all the time in movies where a guy would say something and they'd be like what's going on with this guy? Like the reaction there was as if he had said I'm going to join the clan when I get out of high school as opposed to just you want to kickbox these figuring stuff out and they were all like oh my god how dare

how can you date this man that's an old movie thing it drives me nuts it's uh the NHL season starts tonight as we do the show which means it starts this week when you hear the show right and Dave and I have a list of five hopes and dreams each. Goals and objectives. For the NHL 2016-17 season.

Hold on. Let me get Matt LeBlanc's face off my computer so I can focus. As we do the show, by the way, it's a handsome man. It's hours after, and this is going to shock you, Buffalo received some bad sports news. We're doing this show after Jack Eichael was injured. We don't know the status yet, but obviously hopefully not in fact. He's fine. He's fine. And then also we do it the day after Sidney Crosby's concussion stuff came out. He's back. And he's skating around and doing his thing. What a weird place is. Why do you think they were so cagey about what happened in practice? Because he got injured on Friday. And then Mike Sullivan said, well, we're not going to go into the details of how I got injured. And then Sid's like, well, I got tangled up. And then someone's like, but how did it happen? And Sid turned to the media. He said, were you guys there? They're all like, yeah? He's like, you didn't see it. They're all like, no, that's why we're asking you.

Kind of like how in a game, if we don't see something happen, we kind of know, want to know what happened. And he's like, well, I don't know what to tell you then. Basically, that's like interrogation 101 where like you tipped your hand too soon to the person who now knows you didn't see what happened. And they're just like, well, not my problem. You didn't see it. So is your theory, the commonly held theory, that they are protecting somebody on the team who accidentally hit Sid? By accident. I buy that.

Yeah. I don't buy the World Cup thing because, as you may have pointed out, I don't know, 145 times. There really, there were three checks the entire tournament series, whatever you want to call it. So, yeah, it makes sense. Like, you don't want to be like... We've received more checks doing this show than Sidney Crosby received in the World Cup. Oh, man. I would have got instant rim shot up on the computer if I knew we were doing that today.

But I'm bump. No, yeah, because think about it. Like, let's, no matter who it was on the team, like, like, imagine. it was Phil Kessel. Phil Kessel's built up all this goodwill over the summer. He's doing Stick on Twitter. He's winning the cup. He's getting robbed of Kahn Smites.

And now he becomes the guy who accidentally put his shoulder into the jaw of Crosby. You don't want that. But knowing he's such a jokester, I bet it was a situation where Phil was using the blade of his stick to tickle Sid's ear. And then Sid quickly wrapped around and banged his head against the stick. And now, how do you explain that? Well, then at that point, I would totally confess. I'd be like this idiot was putting a stick in my face. knowing that I have serious brain issues

from previous concussions. It's not funny. I can't believe nobody in the media saw Chris Coonett's cradling Sid's head like Pacino with De Niro at the end of heat. Tom Sistito took his head and just rammed it into the Zamboony door over and over again

because he's voting Hillary Clinton instead of Donald Trump. What the hell? Let's make America great again, Sid. He's like, wait, I'm a Canadian citizen. I can't vote anyway. This joke doesn't make any sense. Shut up. Locker room talk.

Locker room talk. I don't blame you know what I don't blame the media because like I don't know about you but like I'm at a point when I go to our practice I'm just waiting for the first guy to leave the ice so I can go to the locker and talk to people like I'm not looking at like stuff I want to say one thing election oriented please don't turn off the radio it's going to take two seconds turn off the radio I think the the the access Hollywood stuff is legit because it's creepy sexual assault talk but I will I will draw the line even as a as a leftist liberal hippie, whatever. Socialist. Socialist.

I think it is complete bullshit that they're digging up Howard Stern tapes to use against Trump. That is clearly a comedy venue. That is clearly him playing along in that room. There's been a thousand people that have come through that room in that studio and have played into an on-air persona

to kind of goof around with Howard. And I feel like that's kind of beyond the pale. I mean, it depends on what he says. Well, sure. Because stuff about Ivanka is kind of real super creepy, but like... I need the context of it. Yeah. But he's making jokes on Stern.

But like what about the woman who got fired because she was making those weird racial jokes at Barstool? Right. That's, I mean, if it's like that. But that's, but he's a private citizen. He's not working for a company that doesn't expect him to do that. I don't know. I'm a case by case joke judgeer. Like, I'm not someone who's like, oh my God, that person made a joke about this and, oh, boy, let's have them lose their job.

I mean, I don't know. I think too is like he wasn't like making a joke in which he referenced sexual assault he was making a joke about the time he did it which is different so the thing the thing that bugs me a little bit too is sort of like there's like a middle ground too there's like what Trump said which was basically joking about sexually assaulting people and then there's like this other side of it where every every athlete in every sport's like oh lock locker room talk that's not what we talk about locker rooms like like michael bennett and the sialx was like i was born into this world by a woman and I respect women and that's what happens in locker

rooms. Meanwhile, the guy from the Packers who came out as gay after he retired was like life in the locker room was so fucking miserable for me based on how like machismoy it was in there talking about women that like he was he was so uncomfortable by it. So like let's not pretend like it's church in the locker room but like you know this idea that like every athlete's like oh man come in my locker room all we do is sit around and read little women and talk about feminism like no no you guys say some fucked up shit too probably not at that level obviously, but like let's let's... Yeah, I mean, it's, listen, I don't

know if the same thing happens in hockey other than a guy saying he would take his dick out for his teammate if he scored four goals in a game. Right. How about the Patriots locker room in like the 90s when the guy, he wanted to show the woman reporter his quote, Patriot missile? Yeah. Like, I'm sure things are probably a

fall in the last 20 years, but again, again, let's not act like this is the squeaky clean. He would now say SpaceX. All right. Take out my drone missile. Five hopes and dreams for the 2016-17 NHL season. Hopes and dreams.

I wonder if any of our hopes and dreams will overlap. I think we have the same hopes and dreams in life, which is to get through this podcast. Just to die. Oh, wait, what? Sorry. To get through this podcast, that's somebody walking in and kicking us out of the studio.

Yeah. How long do we have it reserved for? Well, it will be quick. No. That's what you said. Number five, well, they're not ranked. My first hope and dream is that some playoff team we all think is cemented into a playoff seed crashes and burns. Now, unfortunately, and I'm not trying to come off as being a monster here, unfortunately, that usually means that someone was injured catastrophically a la Carrie Price, right?

So everybody said Montreal, people had Montreal playing for the cup last year and Carrie Price got hurt. Yeah. And so I, but, but at the same time, that then opened the door for the Florida Panthers descent, that opened the door for the wings to challenge for a playoff spot. Like, there's a domino effect when a team everybody expects to be in the playoffs falls apart. And so I kind of want that to happen with the acknowledgement that it usually entails an horrific injury. And you probably think I'm a monster now. Well, I mean, the ducks could be bad just based on the ducks being like that.

I would argue they're not a team that everybody has cemented into the playoffs. I think they do. I think the team cemented in the West are the predators, the Blackhawks, the Blues, the Kings, the Sharks. And I think there are actually people who think that Dallas Stars could miss, which is crazy, but there are. And there was Duncan Keith giving shit to the woman reporter in Vancouver also. Sorry, I just flashed on that other great locker room experience for women.

Sorry, go ahead, keep going. And then there are, and then there are. It's true. Fucking sport. And then there's the Minnesota Wild that people aren't super soul. on and I think the Anaheim ducks are also team that people aren't super sold on. All right, I'm looking at the ESPN picks.

Burnside, Custance, Goldstein, Kavanaugh, Lebrun, and, oh, and I'm reading he's out of order. But six of the top seven things I'm looking at have the

ducks winning the Pacific, which to me is insane. Winning the Pacific? As does Barry Melrose with a photo from like 1989 has this thing. Oh my God. Oh my God. God, he's so young.

He's got a mustache. He's standing next to Luke Robitai. And Scott Powers has the Ducks. So one, two, six. Not just making the playoffs that winning the Pacific. Like a majority. And Burnside has a Ducks winning the Cup. Sarah has the Ducks win in the Cup.

LeBron has a Ducks win in the Cup. Are these guys drunk? They're not going to win the Cup. Are you looking at last years? Yep, I am. Yes. Holy shit. owned

oh my god like this is insane we were about to accuse the entirety of the Bristol water system being spiked with LSD how drunk is everybody hanging out in Bristol wait so where's when you Google something and that's a top

whatever that's why I should Yahoo it friend Yahoo oh boy all right but suffice to say there are some people that will pick Anaheim yeah and yeah I guess that could qualify All right. What's your, what's your first one, your first hope and dream? I want the San Jose Sharks to win the Stanley Cup so Joy Thornton and Patrick Marlowe can win the cup and then move on with their lives. It's beautiful.

I don't think that needs a whole lot of explanation. Like last year it was kind of great because Kessel versus them, like somebody was going to get the cup and be able to shove it down people's throats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good. Run the cup. Yeah. Yeah. Just want to play well. But if they don't do it this year, like one or both of them is probably going to be gone. Right. So it's kind of, it feels like the windows.

still kind of there, although I know you feel like once Pete DeBoer has his first season with a new team, eventually that team the next year dies. The law of Debor shing reser What was it? Sorry, returns. Thank you. De boredom sets in and then the motivation.

But they still got the most of the team back from last year. They got, they had a vodka. West is kind of not what it was maybe a couple years ago. They were in that shitty-ass division where they can easily. They could run through that thing like a wild debor. Boy, listen to you talk is like, nails on a chock the boar. D. All right.

To that end, my second hope and dream for the season is concerning Sharks East, which is that I want to see Alex Ovechkin play for a championship. I don't care if it's for the cup or for the conference. I want to see him play for a championship. Just get out of the second round, basically. Yeah, like when the higher Barry Trial. they hired a coach with NHL experience, which is a really big thing for Alex. He never had one before.

Now I'd like to see this team play for a championship. And I have them playing for the Cup with the caveat that the only way it's going to happen is they don't play the penguins in the playoffs. And the only way they can avoid that is by winning the division or finishing second

and then hoping that someone takes out the penguins before they have to play them. Like the I on theirs or somebody. Yeah. I think they could. I mean like last year, Holpey was weirdly bad in that series. And that was like the one spot where they had the advantage was Holpey over Murray, but Matt Murray was just I know what you're saying, but I hope he's

never going to be the problem in any playoff series they play. He kind of wasn't that one. But it's, oh come on. Three of the four losses. He was bad. Yeah, but their secondary scoring, they're scoring. Oh, sure. There's more than that. Yeah. Like, because Netsop disappeared. Yeah. But like, I think as long as, even with Kuznetsoff disappearing, they were still pretty much in all those

games, but like, Holpey was just, even, I still I still remember the game winning goal in overtime where like, he's a guy who, who is so steady in net. It's like he's unconscious. Like he, the puck just hits him. He doesn't really move.

He's always in great position and he's super athletic and all that. But he's always so calm. And on that winning goal, like he was just swimming around on the net. Like he was like Mike Richter in the 1994, like, flyoffs or something.

It was really, really was so uncharacteristic of him. So I don't know. I think if he's like your solid 925, 930 goalie, even if the penguins are better in most areas, I think he can be the difference. But yeah,

I'd like to just see Ovechkin, not have to deal with stuff where he gets blamed even though because Netsoff had a 1.14 games or whatever it was. So yeah. I like your dream. I share your dream. Oh, a shared dream. This is not going to be a shared dream because you dislike fighting. I would like to see...

Is it my turn? Oh, is it your turn? I mean, how many dreams are you going to put on me today? Go! I'm sorry. God. All right. So your dreams feel more serious than mine. My dreams feel more whimsical and dreamlike. So my next dream is that somebody at an Islander game

tries to steal the SUV. And I say tries because there's no way they're going to be able to get it off the thing and drive it through like the Zamboni doorway because when they do it

they're going to be drunk and they're not going to be able to start the car properly. But just get that stupid fucking thing away from the glass please while I'm watching a hockey game I want to not be reminded of the fact that like you're trying

to sell me an SUV during the course of a hockey game so I really want to see like a dude like some dude in like an old school like fish sticks jersey with like I don't know Patrick Flatley. Like Patrick Flatley on the back.

Yeah, like Patrick Flatley on the back. That'd be awesome. Just like stumble in like like like, where do you go? Folks. I think I just saw a guy. And he's like underneath the thing like hot wiring it like he's Ben Affleck and the accountant. I assume he steals a car and that uses his his, his mental ability to steal a car. And then like he's like he gets it like halfway off the podium.

So like the back tires are still on the pedestal and like he's drunk and they're waving at people. So that's that's my dream. I want to see that car vandalized in some way this season. Unless that makes me liable if it happens, then I don't want to. to see that happen. You're probably not going to like this one, Dave, because you don't like fighting all that much, but... What is it?

Listen, the fighting is decreasing. I've long said that fighting will leave the game on its own, at its own pace. You don't need to be draconian to make rules to get it out of the game necessarily. I want to see one big benches clearing brawl, like a real Donnybrook, like a, like a, like a Canucks, Blackhawks line brawl type thing. because one, it's fun as shit and two, because then it sets up the next game.

You're such a Neanderthal. You could establish yourself a little rivalry going forward. You're such a cave man. Just a real bench is clear in brawl that sparks a rivalry between two teams. You ever see the brawl that happened

in the NHL the day, the 1980 U.S. Olympic team won gold? No. Because they played hockey then. It was the old school way. And it was, I want to say, Vancouver, Philly. and it's the most amazing nine minutes on YouTube you can watch because it's like you said it's like everybody it's like this is back when guys came off the bench it's the most

unbelievable like I wanted to do like an oral history on it because like everyone thinks about that day is the US Olympic day because every fucking year Mike Roo is he always got to come out and get his goddamn fucking paycheck but it's it's seriously go on YouTube and Google it I just Google like the date of whatever we won we beat Russia it was in 1980 I think right yeah 1980 I think it was in 1980 I think you know what I I think his history tells us, even though we beat the Soviets, I think we had to win another game to get gold. It's winter, like, probably right?

Yeah. I think so. I forget where they held it. I think, I don't know. Lockness, I believe. Oh, wait, no, Lake Placid, the other monster. Right, right. That's Betty White's hometown we held it in.

And Betty White was actually on hand and actually was actually rumored to be having an affair with them. Her Brooks, I don't know if you know. Oh, it's fantastic. Remember that speech she gave the team before the game, she's like, When I was living in St. Olaf. And then actually, yeah, people don't know this, but Oliver Platt was actually the co-assistant coach

next to the guy from the Truman Show. The guy from the Truman Show. Whatever that guy's name was. That guy. All right, my next dream, a little more realistic. I want Devin Sedegucci to score 30 goals this year. Whoa. Yeah.

Now, Devin Sadegucci, out of hockey, well, out of the NHL for two seasons. Back now with the L.A. Kings, he made the team out of camp. and you would like to see him score 30 goals. 30 goals. I want him to play alongside Andre Copatar and just bury up. I want him to shoot like 24% this year.

I just want everything to go in. I like that guy. He was always good to talk to after Sharks' games back in the day. Seems like a decent enough. I love the fact that Sharks ate the Kings and now you have set of Gucci back and the fact that he's wearing like the black jersey. It's like seeing Picard become a member of the board. Yeah. Like, wouldn't that be awesome if like the Kings beat the Sharks in like game seven?

saidaguchi had like three goals on martin jones yes yes yeah i share your dreams sir this is a good dream and like he's a good story too i was actually i actually wanted my original dream was going to be josh harding i don't realize he actually unofficially officially retired yeah i was kind of hoping i want to come back but apparently my god that's right and close music sedeguchi just puts joe thornton through a wall or something i'm rude for that guy setaguchi rips off Joe Thornton's necklace on Piper's Pit and then they wrestle in WrestleMania 3. What was better? Piper's Pit or Kiner's Corner?

What was better? Piper's Pit, Kiner's Corner or the brother love show? You remember the brother love you? They make the whole ring pink and he'd come out. It's a weird time. What a weird time. Well it was like a response to like Jimmy Swaggart and like the preachers on TV. Yeah. Because like they always reflect what's going on in the world.

And that's why we have I don't know what goes on in wrestling That's why we had Sergeant Slaughter joined the Iraqi military at one point That was the thing that happened in wrestling The Iron Sheik My fourth wish Hope Dream for this season

That this is the last year For the current incarnation Of the NBC studio show You know CBC our friends CBC up in Canada Our friend Sportsnet up in Canada They've put all their commentators In a big blender this year

And they have all new configurations They've got new people in old people out, that whole thing. Mike Milbury and Keith Jones and Jeremy Ronick to a lesser extent have been our voices on American television for hockey since the

05 lockout. Boy, that's depressing when you say it out loud. But it's the truth. And listen, I think Jones is a fine job. I think Milbury doesn't do a fine job. That's the opposite of that. I think Ronick is miscast

in that job. one of the best things I heard in the off season was that Scott Gomez is joining NHL Network as an analyst. Why? You don't know how good he's going to be. Well, I don't, but I'm interested to see it. Because since 2005, we've had a lot of people retire who maybe should get a shot on television rather than the same people that have been there for over a decade. Well, like Marty Biron got a chance, but he just, he's too good to slum it at NBC. So he goes up to Canada and he gets all the money. That's the thing is, like, all the guys who are good don't come.

like NBC's not most people's first stop on the I want to be a TV person. But there's also, but there's, but that's the thing though is that in Canada you have two networks. So there is a reason to be good because you have to beat the other guy. Yeah. In the United States, there's one network and they never have to be good because because they're just competing against nobody. Nothing. So you could have the same guys that you have on the show every single year because you like them. Pang.

He's out there. Hang would be great. Well, no, he does St. Louis Blues. Yeah, he does blues fall season. You need to find studio guys, and I know everybody fell in love with Brett Holder and the World Cup on ESPN. I still say that that's a very specific thing he was good at, which is bitching about Team USA. I wouldn't necessarily want him on NBCSN. I'm only giving them a try.

But there have to be people out there you can move into the studio inside of these guys. I'm a little, it's time to change the conversation. But like, you watch football as much as I do. Like, think about football. There's 32 teams, so there's 16 games a week. So you need 16 boots. You got to find 16 people that are good at that job. I'm just talking about the studio.

That's what I mean, though, is like hockey for a studio show, you can get anybody you want. Yeah, you're right. You don't really necessarily have to have one specific guy and one play-by-play guy. You can have whatever mix you want. And even though Fox has had like Radshaw and Jimmy Johnson on that show for like since the dawn of time, it seems. Like they, on CBS, they swap out, they swap out Marino. I mean, they make changes. Yeah.

It's okay to make changes. But those shows are bad. Yeah, that's a bunch of, and like, also, like, did you watch the Cubs game last night? I did not. the post game, I mean, as far as post game shows go, holy shit. So you have Kevin Burkart who's awesome and really good at what he does. And he's talking to Arod,

Frank Thomas, and Pete Rose. And it's just dog shit. It's not good. It's bad TV. And, like, TBS has a guy hosting the show. I have no idea who he is. But I keep saying he looks like the dude from horrible bosses who's in the original one, who's at the bar and is willing to give out hand jobs

in the bathroom for 20 bucks. He looks like that guy. Somebody reminds me of. So they have him, they have Pedro, who's doing the whoopin Indian thing. I mean, like, TV, sports TV sucks. And I think a big problem is that they keep using retired athletes who have no, but at the same time. That's the obsession. Right.

But like Fox was using Verducci in the booth. And he's like a guy who's a columnist who seems like he's afraid to be critical of people. So like if you were to go that route and hockey, like, say if you were to be like, hey, we're going to put Scott Burnside in the booth to call games on NBC. be the studio guy. Yeah. Like sometimes those people are afraid to say, you know, that was a bad call. That was a bad decision. That coach should be fired because they don't want to upset their friends.

They don't want to burn sources. There's no good way to do it. So my solution is don't watch TV anymore. Boy, that was a long time on your dream for me to destroy it. Sorry. You destroyed it. All right. Here's dream number four.

Dave's dream number four. All the outdoor games get canceled because of bad weather. There's no way to make a problem. up the next day or later in the day. And the NHL loses tons of money and it's hilarious and it's great because I'm sick and fucking tired of having to pretend these games that are right two points

or worth anything more than any other regular season. So you literally want to see Storm or Mr. Freeze and hire them to take out these winter classic and outdoor games. Just think about it. It's very much like robbing the banks in point break because the people will all get their money back.

Their tickets are quote unquote sort of insured the way the bank's money is. The only that would get hurt are the people that are trying to suck all this extra money out of people to go watch a stupid game from really, really far away. And I just, I just think it would be great. I just think, I don't even know how many there are this year. There's like, there's the opening. There's one in Toronto. We have, we have the one in Toronto, the one in St. Louis, the one in Winnipeg. Oh, there's one in Toronto and Winnipeg this year. Yep. And then we have the one between the penguins and Flyers and Pittsburgh. I just, and plus like for, for Twitter, I don't want to hear about, I don't want to hear the same 40 quotes from the same people that are all at the same event. And then I just, and plus, and I just, and I don't want to hear the same word. I don't want to hear the same people that are all at the same event. And Oh, sounds like Hutchinson's going to get the start for Winnipeg today. Oh, yeah. I was at the practice today at like noon. The sun was beaten down on the ice. I don't know if we're going to have a game tomorrow.

It's just, I can't do it. I think it would just be great to just watch the NHL like panic. My number one hope and dream for this season is I want to get Connor McDavid in the playoffs by any means necessary. And I say that because I would like to. Even murder, Greg? Murder? Maybe murder. Maybe some level of subterfuge, some pirate kidnappings.

Wow. Some murder. I would like... That's going to be murder. Just come down and say it. I'd like American fans to be able to see Connor McDavid, considering NBC doesn't have Mon at all this year. Yeah. So Connor McDavid in the playoffs, I actually had the oilers missing the cut, but like last weekend kind of style.

I think the flames get in and they don't. Yeah, the flames will get in before they do. Yeah. But I would love if McDavid Gigging in the playoffs That division is so bad though Where like How bad is it?

It's so bad, Mikey No, it's like If like, let's say Copatar gets hurt On the second game of the season And he misses four months It's open, it's wide open Anyone can come back That would be my first dream

Someone cemented in a catastrophic injury Catastrophic injury Yeah, exactly In which the emotional scarring and pain Won't leave that person's body As long as Greg's happy about his dream Just make sure, remember when you're a playoff team

and your best player gets hurt just picture me with flames around me just cackling flames on the side of my face on the side of my face breathing breathless heaving did you see that they're going to try to turn clue into a stage play that's great

good another thing we can recycle and your final dream sir and also I've had a lot of women reporters telling me that guys like to use the PR guys to try to get their phone numbers so yeah The locker room is great. Great environment for, sorry. Where did that come from? I just want to keep going back to that idea that every athlete wants to make it seem like the locker room is the greatest place ever and they respect women and most of them probably do not.

Where am I? Oh, here it is. At the end of the season, Stanley Cup final, there's always that Gary Bettman state of the blah, blah, blah, where he comes out and pretends like nobody wants to hear about salaries. Nobody wants Capgeek. Nobody wants gambling. Right. Gary Betman retires at the end of the season. Wow. And we bring in somebody new and we can finally see what the NHL could be with somebody else leading it. Because I'm tired of it, tired of hearing about how much revenues happen under Gary Betman when all of it's kind of just sort of been there anyway. Wow.

Gary Betman didn't invent the internet. He didn't invent streaming services. He's, he would have had whatever GM or GM, whatever commissioner was there would have, would have had a TV deal with Canada, Canadian networks. He would have probably had a better smart. deal with the U.S. networks. I want to start fresh. I want no Bill Daly. I want no Gary Betman. Don Fears should probably get

lost to based on the fact that the CBA is a joke too for any player that's under the age of 25 and wants to get paid fairly. But that's Dream 6. That's the bonus dream. That's the dream when you wake up and you can't tell it it's a dream or reality. I want someone else to run the league and I just want to see because I go back to this, I think we might have talked about this. I know I wrote

about it once and this is a weird comparison, but the professional bowling league was nobody watched it because it's bowling and it sucks. And there was a dude in the league, one of the Weber's and he was like a crazy guy. He kind of had his own issues with substance abuse and stuff. But like, they sold the PBA and the old PBA was like, dude, stop crotch chopping. Stop hooting and hollering.

This is bowling. Yeah, this is bowling. And then the new people were like, dude, chop your crotch. Go crazy. Go out there. And like, revenues tripled, fans poured in, like relatively speaking to bowling. So you don't believe that's going to happen in hockey. The storage ship of the needs to change. Yes, like there needs to be a new... Do you have anybody in mind for, like, who?

Sean Leahy. It fucked out his own Sean Leahy. I think Sean Leahy's got a nice balance of seriousness and jokeability that could bring out a new flavor from the National Hockey League. No, I don't know. Mr. Commissioner, do you mind if we celebrate after goals? I'd do what you want. It's fine. That John Collins fella, he had some ideas.

He had some thoughts about the game that seemed to be pretty decent for an old rich white guy. He's no longer there. It's just, I just, I'm tired. I mean, we need something new, man. We just, I'm tired of the same. We'll look at the P.K. Sub-Zuban quote later, but. Top three, top three replaces for Gary Batman. Condoleezer Rice.

Oh, my God. Murderer. What else? What else? Brendan Shanahan. Donald Trump. And, uh, I don't know. I don't know about Shanahan.

Shanahan would probably be better, but he would probably be still sort of same in that old school. Mark, kind of. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right, listen, we have an amazing guest in the show if you've stuck with us for this long. He's actor John C. McGinley. John C. McGinley, baby. You know him from office space. You know him from Point Break.

You know him from his new show, Stan Against Evil on IFC. And we talked to him about a great many things, including his being in... Platoon. Platoon, but being in the Malibu Mob with Chris Chelyos. Oh, he tells a very good story about what would happen hypothetically if you were to say, leave the Stanley Cup on the beach. Yes, indeed. All right, here's John C. McGinley.

John C. McGinley is in Stan against evil and IFC. He fights an assortment of demons as a local sheriff. But obviously, our first question is about another immortal creature. How does one become best

friends with Chris Jellios? We were neighbors in Malibu, and as a denizen of Malibu, there was a tiny group of us, maybe about a dozen, who who still work out together and eat together and pick on each other. And that became the Malibu Mob. And the Melibu Mob really was a glorified dinner group. But it was populated by Johnny Mack, Chris Jellios, Tony Danza was out there for a long time. Laird, Gabby, Johnny Cusack,

D.B. Sweeney, myself. And, oh, Don Wildman. And so that was about it. So you guys played hockey, I'm assuming a lot together. DB was our hockey guy, but no, we never, we didn't play hockey. We went to C. Shelley whenever he was out playing the Ducks and or the Kings. And then a couple of times of those great, great Western Division championship rounds when they would go up to San Jose for those brutal shark battles. We went up there a couple of times. The greatest hockey game I ever saw was the wings and the sharks. I think it was a game five, and the wings were down, one-nothing up in that arena, which is unbelievable.

It's so vertical, and they came back in one-two-one. It was unbelievable. Being close with Chelios at that point in his career is probably like being in with one of the stones. I agree. You know what I mean? Like, that team was so good. He was so good. It's not like you're hanging out with the Atlanta Thrashers at that point.

No, no. And Chely used to call, you know, he was a right defenseman. And so he used to call about from 2 o'clock to the goal facing out. He used to call that as office. And so QSack and I would go when they were down in Anaheim or in Los Angeles and would stand behind the glass and just scream bloody murder. And twice we were kicked out of Los Angeles Arena. Staples and wherever they played the forum before they played before. I Guy tapped on Johnny and told him he couldn't cheer like that. And they kicked us out with the arena. And we took it, you said, either go back to your seat or stop doing what you're doing. And, you know, Johnny doesn't do well with authority. And so. But they knew who you were, right? They didn't just, come on.

We were no good Irish mutts. We're just chelly fanatics. You don't understand how much we love cheli. Wow. So what was it like when you abandon the Rangers to become this celebrity hockey fan where you just love chely? Did it hurt to just give up this original six team in the city? No, no, because Mess had delivered the cup, and this was post-Messier.

And it's, I guess a couple years ago, we had a good run, but we, like I'm a ranger. That's allowed here. But, you know, when you trans, I've been out there now on the West Coast for about 25 years. And sooner or later, you've got to surrender a little bit. Kevin Smith did the same thing. Kevin Smith gave up the devils for the Oilers. Yeah. There's a lot of guys that do that.

I get it because you're out there. Get good seats. Yeah. I mean, when I had a little juice with 42, the Jackie Robinson movie a couple of years ago, you know, you become a de facto Dodger fan because the Dodger organization's being super, super supportive of the movie. And you're going to all these Dodger games and all of a sudden you're meeting a Clayton Kirshaw, who's one of the most unbelievable athletes I've ever met.

So you start, you know, as soon as you have a vested interest in a personality, or a person, it makes it twice as fun. You've done sports movies, but only baseball, I want to say? Have you been another sports show? Let's see. Summer Catch was with Freddie Prince. That was about the Cape Cod League. Right. He's getting laid in the Cape Cod League.

Any given... I have a great story, not about getting laid, but I got to meet Hank Aaron when we were doing that. Shut up! And he came in. We were down towards North Carolina shooting the film, and I played a scout. And Hank came up from Muscle Shoals, which is, Alabama, which is where his mother lives. And for two or three hours, Hank Aaron and I were just pointing speed guns in the film,

just pointing our jugs guns at the field and talking baseball. And I got to talk to Hank Aaron. It makes you mental the bonds thing happened. You know what I mean? Yes. It just makes you mental to think about how Aaron did it, when he did it, having to deal with what he dealt with when he did it. And then have just people kind of.

usurp him with and be one and be one of the class a southern gentleman of all time yeah yeah and so i got to spend a couple hours with with hank aaron but i also did any any given sunday with oh that's right and so yeah what was that like what was your researcher to be playing a sports writer uh jim rome was nice enough to let me hang out with him for a couple weeks and then i wanted to combine uh jim rome's sensibilities which was kind of what oliver was talking about in the film right uh with kind of a Lenny Bruce jabber, just a guy who's constantly just given you jabs. Oh, yeah.

And so I went to the Museum of Broadcast out in Beverly Hills there. There's one in New York here too. And I watched a bunch of Lenny Bruce stuff. And that was the flavor I was coming up with. That was brilliant. You work with Stone three times or four times? Six times? Yeah, baby.

So, but you worked in prime time Stone realists. Like we're talking platoon. We're talking Wall Street. Street. Right. And talk radio. They did the play here at the public. Talk radio. God. The story about how platoon happened was kind of crazy. You were just working as an understudy and he was like, give me that guy. Well, sort of. I went into audition for Platoon in 1984 when I was understudy on John Totoro and Danny in the Deep Blue Sea, which was written by the guy who had won an Academy Award for Moonstruck, John Shanley. And I went in and I got third guy on the left

in Platoon, which was to go in Mexico at the end of the year. And then the funding felt out. Two years later, cut to 1986, I'm doing, I'm playing six parts in Kevin Klein's first Hamlet down at the public and understeading Laertes. And so we were two weeks and obviously Leartheis has the great sword fight at the end of the play. And so we were two weeks into combat class with the weapons. And Oliver calls and says, McGinley, I want you to play Sergeant O'Neill. And I'm like, I'm sorry, who is this? I'm with Kevin Cleggle. I'm line of the public. You know, can I call you back? And so I got Sartre O'Neill, which is the fourth lead in the movie. And so I had to go in to meet with Joe Papp, who's like Johnny Friendly and on the waterfront.

No actor in their right mind in New York City would burn that bridge of getting into that fraternity slash sorority down at the Shakespeare Festival. Because it's a tiny group that Joe used to put in everything. You know, if there was 75 of you, there was 50 of you. And so I went in to meet Joe Papp, Mr. Papp, and it was ten amount to going in to see the Wizard in the Wizard of Oz because, you know, they're down in an Astor place there. And he was behind these big doors. And the connective tissue there was Rosemary, who was the casting person and a goddess and really good to me. And I go, Rosemary, I just got offered a lead in a movie. I got to go ask Mr. Papp if I can get out. And she goes, okay, go ahead. And I went in. And he's, you know, he's an old school. You know, he always had a burner, and he was just like, Mac. And I'm like, he knows my fucking name. What can I do for you? And I said, well, I got a, I got a lead in a movie with Oliver Stone.

He goes, I know, Ali, tell him I say, how well, you got to go? And I'm like, well, only if it's not going to disrupt what we have. And he said, well, I tell you what, we'll do Hamlet again. You can be in it. Go ahead. In other words, all was forgiven. And he would, in fact, he was good to his word. He let me be in talk radio four years later, which originated at the public with Eric Bogosian.

And if he had said, if you go, you don't work here again, on my son, I wouldn't have gone. Wow. Neither would any actor in New York. And so as soon as he said, you can go, there was a revolution in the Philippines, and we sat for eight months. Right. Right. And I used to see Defoe down in Soho. And he'd go like, Johnny C. We're truly fucked. And we're, you know, and selfishly just as actor boys, we're like, could you get the revolution over?

And so the play opens. It's the, Vincent Canby called it the most important Hamlet on these shores. And I lived in a funeral parlor on Sullivan Street. And I'm just like, great, this is great. I'm the biggest fucking loser on the planet, man. When you're in a platoon or a Wall Street, right? What a loser. And then you're in an office space. Like, do you have any concept of how these things are going to be, are going to play or are going to be remembered while you're, like, I figure you make a platoon, you figure something special is happening here, right? Yeah, but it's a really, really good question about platoon because when we were making it, it was very special because Oliver shot it in sequence, which is unheard of.

So as you died, your character died, you left. And so that makes it much easier for the actors not to take that large of an imaginary leap because people are leaving. And there's only a couple of us left in revolution torn Manila. Right. Trying to act like you're in Southeast Asia. And so it's not that big of a leap. Right. So what you do in front of the lens is pretty authentic.

Because you've been in the shit, as they say. Yes. And people are gone. Right. People who died, characters died, have left. Off your mortal plane at that point. Yes. And so it was really special.

And so when we got back, the way that was initially invalidated is that the monster Reagan war hit of that time was Top Gunn. Right. Yeah. Which had nothing to do tone-wise with what we made a love story about brothers dying. Blatoon needed a volleyball scene, I think. Can you imagine? That would have made that movie something. The closest thing it had was that card game.

And that's it. So the answer is no. And then before the Academy Award pushes, used to always, now they're always at the end of December when all the important films were released at the end of the year. Back then, that wasn't the case. And then all of a sudden I heard he was going to be released at Christmas. And I'm like, oh, fucking great. Nothing says Christmas like platoon. And so between Top Gun and being released at Christmas, I just figured, you know, at least we had the experience, even though no one's ever going to see it.

That's a straight-up joke from the naked gun when Leslie Nielsen and Priscilla Presley walk out of a movie theater laughing and passes off and they pan up and you find that's platoon. Ah, that's right. And then office space, office space was a dog with fleas when it was released because I went to the cast and crew screening, which I thought was funny as hell. Then it was released and it tanked. And the reason it tanked is because when we were growing up, people used to look in the newspaper to see what was playing at the movie theaters. And so you'd see the they call it the one sheet, the advertisement for the, and in the one sheet in the newspaper is Milton, the guy who has the stapler, and he's covered in post-its. And when you cover a person in post-its, they look like big bird. And so some genius in the marketing department that looked like a big bird movie.

Nobody went. Right at R. Can I figure that one eye? What a jackass. Wait, I read this about office space. So you went and you auditioned to be lumbered. Everyone did. Right.

But it turned out you were one of the bobs. Is it true that that's all improv? It's all sort of like made up on the fly? No, no. Mike put everything down on paper and we shot that. And then he very much wanted to bring people to bring their flavor. And once we had it, what was on the page, he was very empowering and encouraging to bring. If you have some flavor, bring it.

And yeah, so I brought a ton of, I had some ideas. is that to make these guys more engaging than just an ancillary character in the film. I'm like, I'm going to steal this fucker. Who do I thank for the line? What would you say it is you do here? Because I must say that once a week that somebody in like customer service. I think Mike put a version of that down. But then that actor came in and he was sitting across the table.

And I forgot his name, but he's a great actor. And he, you know, he's telling you all these things he's doing it. And I just, in the moment, I was just. just like, well, we'll, we'll, we'll just, let's stop for a second. And as best you can, tell me, what would you say you do here? Like I was talking to a three-year-old. And that's the one Mike put in the film. Between that and young, dumb, and full of cum, those are my two favorite John Seymie. That was mine. No, it wasn't. Was it really? Was it really? Was my Catherine's? Anyone could come up with that, right? No. No. All this, all those that wanted to talk,

Like, we wanted to do like three hours of point break. Because he was in the good point. Yeah, you were the good point break. Yeah, you should point out. At the remake point break. He was in the original. But you know what's so interesting about the original point break is that it's an exploration of testosterone and adrenaline directed by a woman.

And Catherine would then go on to direct the Hurt Locker. And so it wasn't an anomaly. But I thought what was really interesting is that it's all, except for Lori Petty, who's great in the movie, all these men in being testosterone and adrenaline. And Patrick is very. very gifted in the movie. But Catherine directed it. And I thought that's what made it just, there was something just a little more interesting about it than it should have been. And Gary's good and Keanu's, I think Keanu's great in that movie. I think he's great when

he's a fish out of water, you know, like when he's either in The Matrix or, although John Wick, he's awfully good in John Wick. Yeah, I want to see John Wick too. I never thought when I saw the commercial for John Wick, I would say to myself, I got to see John Wick too. I thought it was badass. It was so great. So funny. It was. That, that, that, it was, I was talking to something about Also, he happens to be the best guy in the planet. Yeah. He's really neat. Hands down.

He got John Wick and Jack Reacher. It's become this weird thing. If these movies came out in the 80s, it'd be like Michael Dutikov as John Wick. You're right. Right. And now you've got like these established stars that are now doing these genre action pieces that it's amazing. And I guess maybe Cruz and Keanu will be in like the expendables reboot in like 15 years.

And now John's kicking ass in his own thing. This is a new thing though. Everyone kicks ass. Let me, before we get to stay against evil. There needs to be one Scrubs question, which is, how did you negotiate to get Red Wings, Chelly Osterosies onto the show? The creator of the show is named Bill Lawrence. And when you write, it used to be 22 to 24 episodes a year, which is impossible an amount of content to generate. And so if you had anything in your real life that was remotely eccentric or interesting, it was the frickin the show.

And he knew I love Shelley. And he said, do you think Shelley would let you wear a game sweater? And I'm like, I think so because the NHL does about 1.2 million people a game on TV. We're doing 12 million. I think the NHL would really like that. On a previous podcast, we're talking about how excited we get when we see hockey and pop culture. Like how when I was a kid, I got excited to see like a devil's garbage can in A.J. Sopranos bedroom on the Sopranos.

Oh, that's right. Like, Devils! And I got so excited. And so seeing that on Scrubs was always excited. because it's like here's here's hockey where people don't expect hockey to be and you're putting it in front of people that might be wow that's the best looking sweater in sports outside of the black hawks what an excited to see chely chely would agree as well chely would agree well he can agree he's you know he doesn't like the thrashers jersey chile's look good in the thrashers jersey coming i wasn't a good season How did you find your way to stand against evil? I was, I received the offer to play Stan, and I thought it was really funny. But for the last 15 years since 9-11, my brothers and I and my father, who's no longer

with us, but we've filled in a cousin with him, have gone to Dublin to play golf and have a beer and lie about how great we used to be. And so my brother was on the 68th floor of the second building, and he got out. Wow. And it was a real priority focus shifter when Mark got out. And he was missing for a day. And so we said from now on, because we had gone the year, two years before to Ireland, and then babies get born and confirmation and people go to stuff happens.

There's one million reasons for us not to go to Dublin together for. seven days. And so we skipped a year or two. And then Mark went missing on that morning. And when he finally showed up, we said one of the takeaways was when we say we're going to do something as a family from now on, we're going to do it. And so we've had this year's trip planned to Dublin. And it was the first year we're going without dad. And we brought our cousin, John, in. And then the offer came. And they said, you have to be Atlanta. You have to be in Atlanta the first week of June. I said, I can't. And the agent was like, do you want more money?

I'm like, no, the offer's great. I don't, I'm going to be in Dublin. Oh, I got to chill. And it wasn't a poker play. It was my truth. And so they said, well, this might go away. The agent said, this might go away. I said, I'm going to be in Dublin.

Yeah. I can't. I'm not a good poker play. I'm not telling you my truth. And if it's meant to be, it's going to be there, right? And so they moved the production three weeks. And as soon as. they did that for, you know, for an Irish guy, I was just like, I'll now eat nails for you. Right.

Because of what you did to accommodate my trip with my brothers, I'll now destroy Stan. Yeah. And so I went down to Atlanta and I just ripped the fucking cover off the ball. You did. I imagine episode four or five is when you actually do eat nails. Stan's pretty rough. It's cool. Were you a fan of the sort of Sam Ramay, Bruce Campbelly, horror comedy stuff. I met Bruce. I did a one-episode arc on Burn Notice, and I was lucky enough to work with Bruce, and the guys down towards Coconut Grove where they were shooting. And so then I started to go back and watch the reanimator and all this other stuff that Sam did and a bunch of Bruce's stuff.

And they're on the same frequency. Stand Against Evil is on the same frequency as Ash versus Evil dead. But the tone, as a producer of Stan Against Evil, the tone, that we were absolutely struggling to get. And it's a hard one is we want to straddle both horror. So when it's scary, it's scary shit and comedy. Yeah. And so where that's tricky is, sometimes the comedy can invalidate the monsters.

And if you invalidate the monster, there's no threat. And there has to be a threat. Like, to me, the peak of that would be an American werewolf in London. Yeah. So when Stan Winston was doing those masks and those werewolves would become real. Body horror. It was horrifying. But then when they were out on the Moors and they were just a bunch of jackasses lost, it was hilarious.

The thing I like about this is I think is different than the Bruce Campbell stuff is, you know, he's kind of a wise ass. But I feel like I feel like Stan sort of a put upon curmudgeon. Perfect. Yeah. 100%. And I gave him the funniest, you know, actors sometimes I love actors and I teach actors and I try to empower them. and I'm kind of an actor geek. And so I think it's still fun to give a character an arc

and to decide where do you want to get to? What's the one thing you want to do? You might not be able to do it, but what's the one thing that character wants to do? And usually you give them a very aggressive, some verb that'll get you through all this narrative. And so what I gave Stan was to get your ass back in that chair. Right.

To be done with all this shit. To be done with all this shit. So when everything, Things added up. You know where Stan wants to be? In that chair with a beer watching the history channel. And so in subsequent issues, he gets his wish, but then his house is haunted and he's watching the history channel, a thing on Hitler. And Hitler starts to talk to him because Hitler's a witch. And so Hitler starts to tell him what to do. And so it's, it's, I mean, it's funny on the page. Wait, is Hitler a good witch in this scenario? No, bad. Bad witch. Because that would have been really a real twist. Like he's like, no. he's a bad, he's bad.

He's a Hitler's probably a guy. Let's get back to hockey for a second. One of the great maybe urban legends, I think we're about to find out in the history of hockey is, of course, the time when the Malamub mob allegedly left the Stanley Cup on the beach. And then, according to reports, it was then used as an ashtray. Is there anything you can help in our discovery here of trying to figure out what the real story is. All I can tell you is that at two different beach,

is in Malibu, one on Malibu Road and one in Shelley's second house. The cup was on the beach twice. Yes. Whether it was left there, we can't, we can't discern. There's a babysitter of the cup, so it's pretty, you know, I... Like, hypothetically, hypothetically, not in a real world if it was left there, what would have happened to that cup? Do you think? The tide would have washed it out. Tide's pretty unforgivive. That is, that is, that'd be... How about that if it's flow or not floating, it would sink? That's like nine steps worse than it with the time it fell into Mario Lemieux's pool. I think if it floats out to sea. Trying to picture Phil Pritchard in like a scuba gear. Is Phil the protector of all things?

Bill Pritchard and Mike Bolt. Yeah, those two guys. Then I've met them. Phil's the guy in the commercial, the Discover commercials with the great hair. Mike's a guy I could see living on the beach, to be honest. I don't know. Mike's a fun guy, but Mike is super, super, super, super anal about the cup. He wants to make sure no one touches it. What's your, you drank from the cup, I imagine, or no?

Yes, we all did. Oh, my God. How is that? Well, because of my love for Cheli, him getting it, well, he was his third, right? He got his first with Montreal. Yeah. I mean, he's playing 1875, son. Right.

So there are a few cups in there. But how about your rookie year you come up and win the cup? Right. With Montreal. And then never not be on a playoff team. Yeah, right? It's a good career. You can get it.

Did you think? Not bad. Yes, it was sweet medicine coming out of that cup. Did you lift it? Or was it lifted for you? I think it was lifted for me. I think Laird, I think Laird lifted it. And this is all after 94, so you're thinking this has no effect on the team I actually like.

God, what a team. What, 94? Come on. Well, I'm a Devils fan. I can't put you over. How many cups? How many cups did Devils win two? The Devils have won three since 94.

We worked out right. Sheldon got Sheldon Sarat got traded the year. Yeah. He seems like a pretty decent guy. And he hasn't got one, right? Yeah. No, he didn't. Or he didn't get one, yeah.

Best. Best. He had the fastest, he had the fastest miles per hour. slap shot at that competition for years. In a big dude. Yeah, a big strong dude. One of the best. Hockey player is a good people.

I think I figured out why. Oh, okay. And I think it's what baseball, what baseball, the American League could do to fix a bunch of things is that hockey is largely a self-policing sport. And so if you pick on my guy, we're going to pick on you. Whereas in the American League in baseball, that pitcher can pick on your number one batter and never face the music because there's a designated hitter. In hockey, if you do something, there will be a consequence.

And it might be a straight up regular man-to-man fight. It might be a cheap shot. It might be something into the boards. It might be something next time we meet next year. But it's a self-policing sport. So I think a lot of these Canadian guys who are the most first-class gentleman in all of sports, which seems like a contradiction, but they are. Right.

I think they get to leave it on the ice. I think they get to reconcile their accounts and then come correct. Does that happen in like the real world too? As Chelyos ever had to like say, John, you know, maybe you shouldn't have taken my sandwich out of the fridge. I would no sooner poke that bear. You worked out with him?

Yeah, of course. How? Like I've seen videos that cat working out and it's like he's doing things that I haven't even like, He's like dragging cinder blocks and shit Well we drag a lot We drag a telephone pole on the beach And it's crazy And it's got to do it

Otherwise you're gonna get heckled And the heckling's worse than the pain Oh that's fantastic I guess Because you got a jet Standing against Evil by the way IFC will give you all details As the show goes on

But So what's your favorite hockey movie I guess we should probably end on that Well Paul Johnny Q a second I got to be with Paul down in Durango Do fat man little boy And so when you get to be, we called him the big dog because we both hero worshipped him from everything.

Right. Especially everything. And so I don't know if you put anything near what Paul Newman did. So the thing about Newman in Slashdot that I always love is that he, in every role he had sort of that, that winking. The thing in his eyes, where you look in his eyes, you're like, okay, the wheels are turning faster up there than they are for anybody else in this scene. But he had that sort of wild-eyed kind of crazy thing going on in Slapshot that I always really appreciated. He was pretty special. Yeah, he's a great dude.

For a little while, we were doing this film called Fat Man and Little Boy, which was about the making the two bumps. Right, yeah. And we were down in Durango, Mexico, which is 8,000 feet up in the Sierra Madres. And where we would go to shoot from Durango was up in the Sierra Madres, which was another 3,000 feet along this road called the Highway of Death. And it was a two-lane road. and Paul let Johnny and I sit in the back of his vehicle for a couple of weeks, and he would race up the highway of death. And when Paramount found out about it, some suits came down,

and they forbade him from driving himself to work anymore because there was a better than even chance that he was going to drive off the side of the mountain. Because he was skidding the whole way going uphill. And it was a, I don't know, a 40% grade going up this. highway of death and Johnny in the back, we're in the back just jerking off. We're so happy. This is the greatest two and a half weeks of our life. We're with the big dog. He's driving us to work. And we're screaming bloody murder. And then Paramount said, and rightly so. They were just like, you can't do this. It's a huge budget film. And that was about as good as it gets.

That's awesome. John C. McGillanley, you're the best. Thanks for doing the show. Any parting words for audience. Stand Against Evil is one of the best things I've ever done. I can't wait for everybody to see it. And it's the balance between horror and comedy. So if you're a Leafs fan or a weather's fan, you know about horror and comedy. So tune in. The great John C. McGinley, ladies and gentlemen, stand against evil premieres at two back-to-back episodes Wednesday, November 2nd, 10 p.m. and 1030. I dug it. It's from Dana Gould, right around the Simpsons. I dug the show. I think it's very reminiscent of sort of Sam Ramey-ask stuff and Bill, you know, Bruce Campbell stuff like the Evil Dead show.

Yeah. And stuff gets murdered. Stuff, stuff bleeds stuff. And I'm really just excited to find out that Johnson McGilley was the guy who coined the phrase from point break. I don't know why he thinks he thinks Catherine couldn't have done that line himself. She's done movies about war. I don't really care where the line came from, but the fact that he improvised it is wonderful. I love knowing that.

Before we get to listener mail, I wanted to read this quote from P.K. Suban, this is courtesy of Carolyn White. It's got, I'm sorry, Carolyn Wilkie. Greg is so mad. All right. So this is Suban. This is from an article involving Suban. This has always been Suvan, self-aware and understanding his celebrity, enthusiastic about deploying it. It's sports entertainment, he says.

Hockey's still old that way. It's like we're back in gladiators when you're fighting for your life on the ice. No, I'm not. I plan to get off the ice. Go home, have dinner, see my family. It's a game. Someone's paying $250 to watch product. To grow a sport, to grow a game.

You need more fan player interaction, and it starts first with selling players, not selling teams. Hockey has a tendency to do that. Now, I got two issues with this. The first is that it has to begin with selling teams. Hockey fundamentally is a sport where the best players, the biggest stars, are on the ice for, if you're a forward, a maximum of 22 out of 60 minutes.

Maybe 23, maybe 24. Football is kind of close to that. It's like 30 and 30. But that's sustained. That's different. Because if you're watching a game for Cam Newton, Cam Newton's going to be on the field for a long stretch of time. And in hockey, you're on, you're off, you're on, you're off. It's very hard to market a star when, one, they're not always on the ice. And two, when they're on the ice, it's not as apparent as if you're watching the NBA or the NFL where they are.

And now you could fix that through technology, especially through like player tracking. Like I've always said, there should be something in these NBC games that are on the big network where they have the NASCAR arrow pointing down to the players saying, here's Patrick Kane. Watch this guy. Don't do that. Hey, I'm just saying. I'm saying it makes it easier for the casual fan to find these players. So I disagree with that. I think fundamentally selling the teams is more important than selling the players first.

See, I go the opposite way because I don't. care about the NBA, but I will flip on Golden State, not because Golden State's good, but because Steph Curry can hit from 55 feet away and I want to watch that. But it's the same thing I just said. Yeah, but I agree with you. It's stupid to market teams in the NBA, unless it's the heat where they're like a super mega Wombo megazord team, right? Mega super, hold on, we typed in.

It's like Google, Wombo. But in the NHL, I think you have to market teams. Oh, Wombo is actually a sponge ball. And the NHL's always been strongest when teams are marketed. I mean, the reason we got out of the first locket, the 2005 lockout with our heads above water is because the Chicago Blackhawks team got good and the Philadelphia Flyers team got good and the Pittsburgh Penguins team got good and those fans all came back. What about baseball? What about baseball? Well, I mean, pitchers is different because they're on the field half the time.

But like, you know, superstars in baseball, they're up four times a game. What's a superstar in baseball now? Mike Trout? Are you buying a ticket to see Mike Trout? I care more about, like I would rather, I'm more of the pitcher guy. Like if someone's like Felix Randis's pitching or so and so. And I'm the same way. If Matt Harvey wasn't a train wreck, right.

He'd be a guy that'd paid to watch. But again, but like I think like if you sell, like think about it, we've been selling teams forever now and no one's games not growing, games not doing anything. And now you have like Connor McDavid is so good so fast so talented I think that

if you know he's going to be on the ice or 21 out of the 60 minutes you're going to watch the whole game waiting for him to come back on the ice I completely agree

and he stands out so much you're going to know who he is even if there's not a little NASCAR deal I completely agree and that's why there have been

exactly three marketable players in the NHL in the last decade and it's the system shit too like that Gretzky was talking about you could make the argument

Caines marketable that you might go to a game to see Kane if he wasn't just a deplorable human being away from the ice. Yeah. But that's the thing too. I've talked about this forever is like as great as Sid is, like he's not a dude who like automatically jumps out the way he plays.

He's so smart and so good at, you know, reading plays and stuff like that. You pay to see Sid. Yeah. You pay to see Alex. I don't think he would. See Connor. And I don't. And all due respect to P.K. Suban, I'm not paying to say P.K. Sue ban. I'm not. Yeah, he's not a guy you pay to see.

I mean, if P. K.C. If P.K. Subban had Eric Carlson's skill set, I'd pay to see him because it'd be showmanship on top of undeniable once-in-a-lifetime skill. So you're saying that there are exactly three guys in the last 10 years that Sue Ban's talking about. And it's not, it has nothing to do with marketing. It has to do with, we had this discussion with Sarah Spain the other day actually on her podcast. Sarah Spain. Yeah, I love Sarah Spain. The players that transcend the NHL are the ones that, like you said, you can look at and say, look how he's skating. That's such and such. Look at that guy. It's clearly Ovechkin. Look at that guy. It's clearly Pavell Buret. Look at that guy. That's clearly Sergey Federoff. You don't think there's more than three, though. I think there's more than three. I think right now it's three, and I think going back away is, like, do respect to Joe Sackick and Mike Madano. Did they ever move the needle? Their teams did.

Mike Madonna was a pretty funny. But did you ever buy a ticket to see Mike Madano back in the day if he was coming to town? That's the thing. There are guys that are like what, Sue, Sue, said that you can sell. And then there are guys that are just really good players. John Tavares, really good player, but his team needs to be something that I want to pay to see. See, that's the thing is like, I think if I'm doing this mentally here, how many guys do I think, wait, what? I was going to say, if you were doing it mentally, I'm trying to think exactly what you'd be doing. Well, no, I'm not like looking at a sheet of paper with a bunch of dudes who I would like, okay, so you have. I'm doing this spiritually.

Crossby. contracting guy. Crosby Ovechkin, Carlson, Connor, Connor McDavid, Austin Matthews might be that guy too based on the World Cup. Kessel's a dude who got so undersold in Toronto. Kessel should have been a dude. He's a stocky fat man. He's like Kastanza, but he just skates really fast and it's awesome. Why would you not pay to want to watch that? I think there's a lot more guys in that than you think. Like to me like, again, to go back to Krosby, I feel like he's not a dude who like stands out. I think that's a reason why people don't give him

their respect they do. Like fans hate him. I don't think fans hate LeBron James that much because he's so awesome and obviously better than everybody else. I'm just saying, I'm saying fundamentally. Copatar. Copatar's not a guy like that. Fundamentally. Sagan. How about Sagan? Fundamentally, the sport has people coming on and off the ice way too often.

And fundamentally the sport is about defense. And that's the issue. Well, now it is. That's the other thing. That goes back to the system thing. Like if it was just a free flowing team North America game, everybody played where the coaches were like, fuck it, go out there and play some hockey. I think that would make it better along with, I think there's like a middle ground.

where like the team stuff isn't always going to work because even good teams at the 94-95 Devils for instance. I mean, you think you could be familiar with that team. Very good. Yeah. Boring his balls. Right. The Gipmo Torture team to watch on the ice.

But they won, so you liked it, but the other 20, whatever it was. But they actually, they had a star on that team. But the problem is he's a defensive player. That is Sean Chambers. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Not Chevy goalie that broke all the records. All right.

The other thing, too, is like, goalies are all technical. they're not athletic anymore really. So it's like, I get why fans are drawn to Jonathan quick. Or Tim Thomas. Right. Tim Thomas might have been the last guy that actually broke through as a goalie

because of the way he played and Hachick before him. Like Hachick same way. But like Braden Holpey's never going to like, you know, the thing is like if you're technically sound then you're huge, you're not going to make highlight film saves

because you're always having to puck hit you square in the chest. It's just, I don't know. I get what's too bad saying. I get what you're saying. But I just think until like the culture changes and people can just, you know, then again, I don't want to have like too many people speaking in their minds because

people are like Tom Sistito are stupid. This is the new Tom Sistito podcast in which I find new ways to reference. You're saying it's better not to know everything about these guys? No, I mean, it's not that I want to know everything about them. It's just like after a game, I would just love for a dude to be excited about something he did on the ice and not have to deflect away because he's afraid that he's going to get, you know, become outcast in his locker. That brings us back to this other part of the quote that I wanted to talk about. And hockey's still old that way. It's like we're back in gladiators

where you're fighting for your life on the ice. Now, I know he's not directly saying this, but this is what I'm taking away from it. As a fan, I want them to take it seriously, and I want there to be stakes. Because as a fan, and this is the majority of fans, it's serious to you. What your favorite team does,

and we're jaded about this because we're in the business. But what you're, I'm not, well, I think, okay, let me say this. We're jaded about hockey, in that way because we're in the business, but I'm very still much that way about the Jets. And when the Jets are doing terribly as they are now, I am

a fucking wreck. I hate life. I can't believe how bad they've gotten. They're so bad. That first week they lost, I was like, they lost that game, but they'll be three and two. No, when they lost that game, I said, that game's, you see, it's changed from they lose that game into Bengals, and then I'm like, oh, at the end of the season, we're going to look back at the game and be like, well, that's why we didn't make the playoffs,

but now it's like, now it's just tire fire. The fact of they were down 28, nothing to the Cowboys this Sunday makes you realize that Bengals game, and wasn't that good of a lot. But I think about that, and I think about, yeah, I want you guys to take it seriously. And I want my hockey.

I want my hockey to feel like it's life or death. Wait, give me the quote again where you, I don't think he's not taking it seriously. Hockey's still old that way. It's like we're backing glad eaters where you're fighting for your life on the ice. No, I'm not. I plan to get off the ice,

go home, have dinner, and see my family. It's a game. I know what he's saying. And I know he's not trying to downplay the importance of what he's doing. Yeah. But at the same time,

I, hockey, and this, I know, like I said in the first segment I know we disagree about fighting in a lot of ways but when there was more of it it did feel a bit more life or death

when teams were literally tearing each other apart to get to the playoffs and then tearing each other apart in the playoffs granted this is a recency bias because when I was a kid this is the way hockey was and there's a certain amount of nostalgia there but like it felt more life or death 15 years ago than it does

today doesn't it or didn't it I mean like back then I don't think I was really aware of how like staged and bullshity the fights were, you know? Yeah, it could be that. Like, I'm not downplaying the idea that I could be full of shit here

because I was, you know, I didn't realize wrestling was fake. Until like two weeks ago. Until like two weeks ago. Holy shit. Wait, gold dust really wasn't blowing gold dust into that guy's eyes? Did I mean, I think I've mentioned this on the show before

when I realized wrestling was fake was when Hacksaw Jim Duggan and the Iron Sheet got stopped on the Jersey Turnpike with the pot in their car. Yeah. It was pulling back the curtain for me. Like, like to find out like Nick Lidstrom and Duncan Keith on a restaurant together or something. Right.

That's like the modern version of that. I mean, just because like P.K. Suban, but like I, it's hard for me to figure out that quote without hearing it and what the question was. But like I get the, I understand what he's saying where it's like he's not going to take losses home with him, which I think is good. Sure. I'm not saying he doesn't take it seriously. Right. I mean, that's something Mark Bergeron would probably say, but not me. Right. Because you're not an idiot like Mark Bergeron. I just I don't need to

Like I don't need to see Like the thing that I always remember from back and when I was a kid Before we got into the business I always think of how at the end of every single Fucking play that involved a goalie covering the puck There was like 45 seconds of dudes face washing and pushing and shoving Like that to me was never a sign of like Oh these guys really want it this to me it was like a sign of like

Can we please fucking move the game along here please? I get it you guys are all tough don't come near the goalie. Like, I don't feel like guys want it any less. Like, I don't know, man. You go into a locker room after a team loses the Stanley Cup final. You really kind of appreciate that. Like, I feel like if, let's say Nashville loses to the caps in the cup final this year, you go into the Predators locker room.

P.K. Subant's probably going to be the most devastated guy in the room. Great. I don't think his quote has anything to do with willingness or desire to win a cup. You biased hater, you. That's me. All right. And the time remaining we have in the show today, let's do a little. bit of listener mail. Yeah, because we have, we figure, we kind of did like a double preview because

last week we had a show on Wednesday and now today we're doing a thing on Wednesday when the season starts. Sure. So double up, double up on the questions. All right. Fire away. Here we go. The first question is, is Harambe is sandwich? Better. Should I dress as Ken Bone for Halloween? The answer Kyle Wilkins is no. The answer is you should never dress like a fleeting meme for Halloween unless you're dressing up a pet in a fleeting meme for Halloween. I saw someone I follow on Twitter and I forget her name because I just started following her. She had a really funny tweet about the, she had a Venn diagram with like Wolf of Wall Street and Werewolf Bar Mitzvah.

Did you see that? No. It was funny. But like she tweeted a thing where it was like her ideal Halloween costume and it was like 11 from Stranger from Stranger Things. But then she turned it into Ocean's 11 where she put a shark on her head. See, that's great. And then there was another one, 711 where she's holding a big gulp.

That's fun. That to me is, it's like topical, but it's clever. Meme mashups. If you just wear a red sweater and put, basically Ken Bone is the guy from office space who takes the specs from the customers to the engineers. I don't know. It's not distinctive enough to just be a heavyset man with a mustache and a red sweater. But that's the one thing that makes me really happy is that for fatties, there's not a lot of costumes you can go with that are going to get a nice fun reaction at a party. It's basically Mario from Super Mario Brothers.

Chris Farley from like a stretch from S&L. Yeah, El Niño. Right, yeah. That's true. And then Ken Bone kind of made life safe for a guy who looks like Ken Bone. But like why not like go as like, I don't know. Like when you're bald, you can't go as like bald so and so. No one's going to get it.

But you can go as like a bald heavier or like a heavy version of like Zach Galaphanacus or something. Right. And to go to go with what you just said by the way, zombie Ken Bone, perfect. Oh, okay. Perfect. So instead of zombie Ken Bone could we do. like Ken Bone where a guy is dressed as a Ken doll

and he's got a boner No wait What would that one be? There's going to be a racist Ken Bone Thugs in Harmony Party What other bones are there? Ken Bone

How about Ken Bone as a chef And your Ken Bone Appetit? Oh How about you dress as Ken Bone wearing a Tim Duncan jersey Yes And you're a bone spur Oh my God

Boom! Thank you, everybody. Enjoy your Halloween's folks. Or Avery Johnson or Tony Parker. Pick the spur you want. John Bridges wants to know what team other than Vancouver will stubbornly insist for too long

that they're a playoff team. Now, I have the Bruins making the playoffs this year, but I imagine that would be the answer for a lot of people is the Bruins be the team that's going to hang on to that idea for too long. But they have enough young dudes in the mix are close to it where I feel like they're close yeah like Tori Cruz

I guess first round in Marchand are there for another decade or whatever all those dudes are all those dudes they drafted the year where they got up all those first round picks like they're Vancouver is really the the answer like when you're that bad and you're like let's go throw a bunch of money at Louis Erickson so the Siddines can have someone to play with ball they have like a year left basically before they fall off the cliff is a weird decision I think I think you could throw some love Detroit's way because Ken Holland has that team basically capped out and

They're not even a playoff team this year. Yeah, I think they're going to be really bad. But they're capped out in a weird way, too. They're capped out, like, based on, like, Zetaberg, and then they have the two goalies situation, which is kind of weird. And then they've overpaid for Jonathan Erickson. Applicator. Yeah, like, they've, like, it's one thing to overpay for, like, you know, Kyle Okposo,

when you feel like you're on the verge of going somewhere. Another thing to, like, overpay for, like, your mediocre second pairing and third line guys, like he did. It's weird. But, yeah, Vancouver. I don't know if there's really anybody else because it's weird like the the West like all the teams in the West that are good or obviously Columbus like yeah well Columbus like well Columbus though I think they know the rebuilding right do they though I don't know

they didn't hire a guy that would indicate their rebuilding that team coach the team like there's certain teams where like I can see the plan and I like it and I can see the plan and don't like it I can't even see the plan that Columbus has I have no idea what you're doing you don't you don't speak Finnish if you spoke finish the plan is right in front of you Bork, it's, it's a forked, Borka? Anyways. Two girls, one puck wants to know, are there any players that you have met that you would really enjoy hanging out at a bar with them? And she says, refs don't count to me, which of course is a Tim Peel reference. I get it. We had tequila together and he got suspended for it. I've had beers

with Doug Murray. He's a nice guy. I was thinking about this question and I would say, I would, I know I know people have told me he's kind of dushy, but I've always found my conversations with David Bacchus have been really nice. He doesn't come across his duchy. No, I've heard people that say that he's duchy. Like, once the camera goes away. Yeah, or like in life. Oh, I know who it would be.

Shane don't. That guy's, that guy's goofy and funny. He probably has some really great stories. He was kind of goofy. Yeah. You'd want to be with a goofball. I feel like maybe he might not drink, though.

I think he might be. Dude, I don't think he does. Yeah. I think he drinks. Does he drinks the blood of Christ Did you know what Donald Trump apparently doesn't drink? I know. Like that's, if there was one dude who I thought

was drunk 24-7, it would be Donald Trump. So like you never know until you actually get to know somebody and you find out what their situation is. But like I feel like that would be a fun beer or two. I would have to imagine, you know who I would like to have a beer with only and hang out with only because I think that as a guy who's sort of a cynic

in life like me, like Mark Andre Fleury is the happiest guy I've ever met pretty much. He is a delightfully bubbly. Yeah, I think the flower, as Rob Rossi would call him. Flower. Flower. The goal in the second period, you scored on yourself.

Do you wish you had that one back? Best Rob Rossi's story of all time. He's working in the bowels of the Washington, D.C. arena. He can't get the internet to work. He throws his laptop on the table and pretty much breaks it and goes, how the fuck they're going to call this place to Verizon Center if you can get the fucking internet to work? I think the first time I ever interact You at Rob Rossi

was during the Ottawa All-Star game when the Crosby neck vertebra I think was happening When Brassan was there And everyone's like Oh dude you're gonna love Rob He's a fun dude And I'm just like where is he

And I see a guy off in the distance Like slamming his computer Against the wall in the press box But go say hi to him No I'm gonna wait Right Two more questions Because we got a boogie

Do you put sugar on Yes Next question Ryan Roberts wants to know Do you put sugar on before or after milk in cereal? What? Who put sugar on cereal? Yeah, I don't put sugar on cereal.

Yeah, if you want to have cereal, you get pre-sugared, right? I mean, yeah, like I have like frosted flakes. I don't buy like Oreos, Cheerios and put sugar on them. Although buying Oreos and putting sugar on them sounds like a good idea. Vicious Pibble wants to know best type of noodles. That's a great question because honestly, I would answer it. I would answer those wide noodles that you get in like beef chow fun

in Chinese food, the wide noodles, not udon and not the little tiny ones, but the wide, your wide noodle. They look like tapeworms just to make it even more appetizing. I see my immediate thought was like butter noodles. I wasn't even thinking like Asian noodles. Like a, what's a butter noodle? Oh, I know.

They're the same kind of noodle. The one with the ridges? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. That's something your grandma did. I mean, I haven't had this. I was like 13. You got like a bad belly.

But noodles, like noodles. Here, David. Have some butter noodles and some delicious seltre water for your tummy tom. Fucking salser water. Started on salser water. Sorry. Ginger ale was the reference I was trying to go to there. But, um, oh, the best noodles are the noodles you put in your, uh, your chicken rice soup

that you get, the crispy hard noodles. That's my final answer. There you go. All right. And finally, finally, finally, finally. Finally. Where do you got to go? You got nowhere to go.

I got to do a hit. of cocaine Because hockey wants to know we think John Taffer ends up coaching the Columbus Blue Jackets Where would John Taffer of Bar Rescue be best suited to coach

in the National Hockey League? Wait, what was their beginning of the premise? They think that John Taffer will end up coaching the Columbus Blue Jackets. Where do you think John Taffer of Bar Rescue would be best coaching in the National Hockey League? Because I have an answer.

I don't understand the question. They want to know where John Taffer should coach. But like, why? I don't know. I don't understand the premise So we can fire people I go with the Colorado Avalanche

Because For two reasons One Because I think it's all there They just need someone to organize it They just need someone to do something with it Oh See I'm looking at it as a situation

Where he would go and get the most angry And want to yell at people No I think it's all there He just needs to create a butt funnel He needs to get some new taps in there They just need to clean up the kitchen a little bit And then also So he can change the name

He's gonna take down the sheet over the stadium and changed the name of the teams like the Denver Beer Emporium or whatever the fuck I feel like John Taffer took over the Panthers this summer based on everything they did Think about it, they changed the uniforms

They fucking gave out a bunch of weird contracts to people. A lot of people don't realize that Sunrise Florida is the military capital of Miami-Dade County. Lots of military. I've given you a logo that's Weeks to that.

People are going to see that logo and they're going to say, that's my kind of bar. I designed the city completely so everyone's funneled towards the arena, so they have to go in there. And once they're in there, they're locked into their seats for three hours. And you'll sell out every game. It's called a countywide butt funnel. You want to get your house in order? Get Brian over here out the door. He's making $7.9 million and he's 39 years old.

he sits down with like dale town he's like do you still care about this place because i'm looking around and you know based on the shape of the roster i don't think you care anymore then the out town like throws up his arms and walks out then he comes back with like tears in his eyes after the commercial break i love it here okay i do i came here with a dream and i just want to make things right with the rest of the players that's what that's what i wanted to hear dale that's what i wanted to hear um that's the show. What a marathon. That's it for the show this week on Puck Soup. Thanks to John C. McGinley.

Stan Against Evil is the show on IFC. It is something worth your time. Do check it out. Starting to November on IFC. I'm Greg Wichenski of Yahoo SportsPuck Daddy blog. You can listen to my other podcast, Merrick v. Wichinsky. Do you have a book? I do have a book, Dave. It's called Take Your Eye Off the Puck.

The Watch Hockey by knowing where to look. It's available on Amazon.com and wherever books are sold. and here is Dave Lozo. I got the horse right here. His name is Paul Revere. And the guy says if the weather's clear, Ken Bone. Ken Bone.

Ken Bone. Ken bone. This guy says the horse Ken Bone. Can bone. Goodbye.