Puck Soup - Sean Leahy, Puck Daddy Farewell

Episode Date: October 4, 2017

Greg and Dave welcome Sean Leahy for some Puck Daddy memories and general hockey silliness. Plus discussions about Jaromir Jagr to the Calgary Flames, the Blackhawks' controversial decision on Marian Hossa, "Mike and The Mad Dog" give you the over/unders for the NHL 2017-18 season, some thoughts on Las Vegas, Martin Brodeur as Yoda, the return of "Curb Your Enthusiasm," Greg's surreal post-Breitbart announcement on leaving Yahoo and some thoughts on manhood. Sponsored by Seat Geek, Blue Apron and Draft Kings!

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Blah, blah, blah, on Yahoo and Oath Company. And I'm Dave Lozo, the only employed person on this show today. Hi, how you doing? And I'm Sean Leahy disgraced Puck Daddy editor, who is currently going to be somewhere soon. And you're in Puck Soup.

This is like the most uncomfortable show we might do. No, it's actually great because I know where both of you were going. Yeah. I hold to complete power over this room. I don't think Layhe and I like playing grab-ass with people as far as like, you know, withholding information. But like,

for those who don't know, Leahy was clipped from Yahoo during the summer. And then I left Puck Daddy and Yahoo on Friday. It was my last Friday, September, 29th, maybe. Yeah, 29th was my last day there. Left on my own accord. I hate to disappoint my new friends from Brightbart,

but I wasn't fired for writing the PKCCVAN story. How great is it? Like two weeks ago, which was so happy that I got into with the ESPN public editor. You couldn't wait to talk about that. And now we roll on today. Hey, how's the Brightbart mentions on Twitter going? Well, I was showing Ruby

my number of mutes. And I would say the first at least 75 mutes that I have on my Twitter feed have either deplorable in the title or a frog is the avatar. But there's the thing.

You guys, I mean, everybody in this room knows that, like, this thing with me and Yahoo has been in the works for quite some time. And so that 24 hours leading up to it or 48 hours leading up to it was hilarious because I'm like, oh, this is going to be so weird telling everybody I'm leaving Puck Daddy. I've been there for nine years. You know, it's been such a great ride, yada, yada, yada. Tell the truth. And then, and then like, tell the truth about what happens.

And then all of a sudden, Brightbart puts me on the front page of Breitbart on this story with P. K. Subam, with this hack weirdo, right. that I blasted P.K. Suban and trashed him for, you know, saying that he's going to stand for the anthem or whatever when it was literally the most straight news story I've written on any of these topics despite being a liberal propagandist, apparently. And then, and then I came to realize that this beautiful, poignant announcement I was going to make about leaving Yahoo on Friday was now tainted by the fact that there's going to be a small percentage, but a vocal percentage of people thinking I was fired because of my politics. Here's the truth. Okay, here's what happened. So Greg wrote the thing about P.K. Suban. Breitbart came after him. And then Yahoo's public editor sided with Breitbart.

And Greg said, you know what? I won't stand for that. I'm quitting, but I'll make it seem like it's a mutual thing. That's actually what happened. Yahoo's public editor said, I love Breitbart. You're wrong, Greg. Get the hell out. Well, what happened was Breitbart, I mean, Yahoo's public editor came after me in a column.

And I decided to call. Breitbart's public editor. I decided to call Yahoo's public editor, the dumbest person alive. And it turned out he's also my landlord. So now I'm jobless and homeless. It's crazy. Turns out it's actually Ruby's dad. You're not getting divorced.

Well, I thought it was Evanston was very common name. Yeah. Everyone has that name, don't they? No, I mean, we'll get into the puck daddy stuff later and we go nostalgia fest with Leahy. But it was everybody was very sweet and I appreciate the things everybody said. The two things that really stuff, with me in all of the interaction with readers in the last few days

are the people who say they were inspired to come back to hockey because of the things they wrote because they realized it could be fun and not be Canadian. And then also the people who started blogs and stuff because of the things that we did and the

fact that we reached out and supported blogs and the headlines and stuff. And then also the people who said they grew up reading us which is the weirdest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. We are all. And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I'm like someone said, you know what, I can't believe this. I grew up reading him. I'm like, you know, let me do the math here.

Is it nine? Oh, shit. 2008 was a long time ago. Twitter was not what it was now. A 10-year-old is now a college sophomore. Like, we are halfway, we are more than halfway through our lives. We have lived more in this first half than we are going to, in the second half. We're almost dead.

We are almost. Speak for yourself. But here's the thing, too, is I went to Yahoo and now Ryan Lambert's still there. He's going to be there. and the lead story was kind of weird. It was a story about, I think it was North Dakota's Fenwick and how that relates to socialism in America. Is that the new puckdaddy rant?

The top story on the NHL page right now is Stegasori, could they be Yager's left wing? You talk about living forever. I just want to make a note that my dad thought he was going to have surgery today. We're taping this on Tuesday. And he, for like a blocked artery or something. And it turns out that he didn't need a stent. I'm just giving this pertinent information to set up the next thing.

My aunt on Facebook... That would have been the weirdest he'd bekeek transition. No, no, no, no. My aunt on Facebook wrote this, she wrote, Happy to hear my brother-in-law came out of surgery okay. It's a beautiful sentiment, right? Like, I'm so happy that this beloved man, you know, is okay is in good health.

My mother responds to it by writing, actually. Oh, that's always a good way to start a piece of comment. He didn't have surgery. It is called a procedure. No. No. My mother is such a piece.

Is she on Twitter, too? That's a great Twitter response. She should be, man. She'd be amazing. She would well actually everything. Wait, was she doing a bit or was she not really upset about the terminology? This is the part in which I remind you, you've never met my mother. No.

It was not a bit, my friend. Let me put it this way. All this you hear on this podcast, that's my dad's jeans. Oh, by the way, speaking of old, I want to retract something from last week. Okay. Arizona Coyotes out of the playoffs, Calgary Flames, and Yarmier Yager, in the playoffs. All right, let's get to Yager. In the playoffs.

We got a lot to get to on this podcast. We got Yager. We left out so much stuff from last week. Yeah, we got the host of thing later. We got Overunders by Mike and the Mad Dog coming up, too. Yager signs of one. year one million dollar deal with the one million dollar bonus the calgary flames uh apparently uh because glen gulotson was his coach in dallas he knew him from dallas um i've been saying this forever

and maybe i'm wrong on it but like i've long said that yager had more of a pick of the litter than he was letting on and in the st louis made him an offer and after uh after fabry went down and berglin and steen were already out and i that was a situation where they are they need help and they all of a sudden come to Yager and say we have this want and need, do you want to play here? I tend to believe that maybe there were some opportunity for Yager in places, but he just didn't want to go there for his own comfort level. Certainly wasn't for the money. I mean, this is a bargain basement deal for flames. So if he can go anywhere he wants, why would he go to Calgary? No offense. Calgary was supposedly kicking the tires on a months ago, right? I mean, this

didn't just happen. For the comfort level of the coach. Because he played for the stars for like four weeks. Yeah. He played for Glenn Golds for like two minutes. He's like, oh, I've heard of that guy. I've him before five years ago, yeah, I can play with it. It's also the, what is the pro-league factor as well? I think he had his mind made up maybe that he was going to go to Calgary and there weren't a ton of offers and he was just like, I'm not doing training camp. He did the old Michael Strayan bet, right? Yeah, you know, like that old veteran, like Levyon Bell this year and the Steelers was like, yeah, dude, I'm good.

I know how to play football. I can play hockey. I'll just show up in October and it would be fine. Oh, we're not talking about games. We're talking about practice. I like Calgary now. I thought they could use a forward. Well, not only because they use a forward, but they, I mean, like, I think when you look at that team and you look at all of the young talent they have on that team and the burgeoning talent, the guys are, like, inching towards their prime, or in Johnny Goodrow's case, a few inches short of his prime.

Wait, is that about his height or what is? Yeah, it's about, it's not about his dick. I'd have no, I mean, he's Italian. He's from Jersey. I assume that's all right. Oh, he's packing. Yeah, he's packing for sure. Oh, absolutely. And then, but I mean, he's a short man.

Right. Yeah. But when you're short, like the expectation level gets lowered. So like... Does it? Or when you're short, everything seems disproportionate. I think it's both. I think if it's a short person, you're like, oh, what's that?

Like, like, let's say you're six foot three. Yeah. You know, there's expectations that maybe it's hard to live up to. Maybe that, you know, it's fine, but maybe on a six foot three frame, it doesn't look that great at first. So maybe you need to like wait. Oh, wait, hold on. As the shortest person in those are room now, you're wrong.

I assume that is an Italian. kid and a star athlete he's probably got charra down there wait because he's an athlete i don't think i don't think being athletic has any sort of correlation to penis you got that confidence doesn't make your dick bigger sure it does that's why that's why i only played jv baseball wait so wait so so so in your mind when you look at like like a like a tweet when it has like all four lines everyone on the fourth line is a tiny dick and everyone in the first line is a huge dick that's your that's your no the goons don't have tiny dicks. They have big dicks because they have to fight people. Although

maybe they fight because they are overcompensating. So Sean Thornton's pack and Vern Fiddler's kind of I don't know. That's your feeling? Vern. You know what I'm saying? All Verns now have big dick. Boy, I was not expecting

to crawl up into your mind and figure out what you're thinking when you meet somebody now. What position or designation in hockey do you think has the on average the smallest penis? Yeah, it's tough, right? It's a good question. I think it's obvious.

You think it's goalies? No, I think it's, it's equipment guys. That's why you want to be surrounded by all those sticks. Oh, I think, oh, God. What, no? I think you meant players. You mean, like, anyone in hockey, anyone who has a job in hockey? Anybody, any, what job in hockey would be that, you think, like, agitators?

They're like a pest? I'm going to say hockey podcaster. Just, just guessing, just, you know, nothing, nothing I know from experience, dude. I'd say press row. Oh, yeah. You know? Oh, it's, it's a sad. The peanuts, the giveaway free are not the only.

What are we talking about? Yager. All right, Yager. I think Yager is going to play that role that he plays so well, which is he's going to be the sage, you know, Jedi example that they all look up to. Like, that's the thing he did. That's why he works so well in Philly. That's why he works so well in Florida. He was able to not only be an effective player, which he was.

she's going to be in Calgary. It's a disgrace that this guy didn't have a job for as long as he did, unless it's the reason that you gave before where he just didn't want to have a preseason. I think that if you really do believe he had the pick of the litter, then I do. I think that plays into it because I don't want to go to like some new town and skate around for two weeks like an idiot. Tav gets like Monaghan and Goodrow be able to look at this guy running stairs at 45 years old and stuff. I think that's an invaluable thing to have.

I think that might be overrated. I don't. Because like I don't know. Like everyone assumes every old dude in sports is like this great. example for young people. I don't necessarily know if that's really a thing. Like, I think Yager just wants to go play hockey and get out of it. It doesn't really care if, like, Sean Monaghan's like, wow, look at the

quads on that guy. But that was, but in Philly, like, that's the role he played. And, like, a guy like Claude Drew has completely fallen off the table. Took his cue from Yager and remains the best player in the world. He's still holding the torch. He's still holding the torch. Like, Jake

Vorecheck fell back to, like, nine goals. Like, I don't know. It's like Marty Brador. Everyone assumes Marty Brador was like this great, sort of like teacher of other goalies. Like, he wasn't. What? He'd be,

I mean, he worked miracles with Jake Allen last year. No? Yeah, he made him like a 915 goalie or something? Boy, how did he do that?

What is it, Yoda? Oh. Catch the buck you will. Use the glove. Oh, fall apart in playoffs you want this year. Oh.

Only with like a French Canadian accent. Can we get something to do Yoda as French as from Quebec? And who was the other coach that? Was it? I think it was the other coach they had last year working with with Marty. Was it? I think it was. What he's saying to you, Jake, is that you don't have to shit your pants as soon as the first round begins.

There's no Brian Elliott here to catch your poo this time. Rador is like speaking in French and he's got like a mouthful of like Putin and he just says stuff and then Manny Legacy translates for him. actually here's what happened right so so martin brodor literally dressed up as Yoda threw on a through on a blues jersey he's on his knees and then he raised jake all and say percentage out of the swamp and he held it there for a little while but he wasn't strong enough to hold it for the entire pose oh put me on your back you will runs through arena uh no i uh i can't i got a bell oh put me on your back I just

The dream sequence where Jake Allen cuts off Ryan Miller's head was really weird I thought And the mask explodes and it's Jake Allen The whole time It's actually Jake Allen It's pretty impressive It was pretty amazing

But yeah it was a good learning tool It helped It helped Yeah What are we talking about again All right You can get You know what

We're talking a lot of players We're talking about Yamir Yager We're talking about Jake Allen We're talking about Yoda We're talking about Johnny Grudeau And his horsecock

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he never fucked a pie. He looks like Jason Biggs. He looks like Jason Biggs and fucked a pie. I just feel like we need to explain that one because I feel like most people don't know who Dan Barberie is. Can I ask you a question? Do you know for sure?

That is true. Do you know for sure? We can get Emily on the phone. Hey, do you ever walk in and maybe just see him like trying to relive that scene? Does you ever see him foist a pie on dude? By the way, Curbs back, we should probably mention that. How good was that episode?

It was one of those deals where, you know, it's been how long since the last Curbs season? It has been like six, six, six, seven years? Something like that? There was definitely times in the first third of that episode where I'm like, oh, I don't know. Like the whole. Oh, I was waiting for the thing. The lesbian wedding thing. The lesbian wedding thing.

Yeah, holding the door for her. Yeah, the lesbian wedding thing where he's like, you're more of a groom than a bride. Why is she being, she should be a bride? Like, there's a whole part of that where you're like, man, if this was 2001, this is fantastic. And then you're like, but it's not. And it's going to be horrible. But as the episode went on, maybe two things happened. One, obviously in curb, you know, tradition, everything came around at the end and it was brilliant.

But there was also that moment where you're like, you forget that this is an island. Like you forget that much like South Park is an island where this kind of comedy can exist. exist and it's almost like that giant Stephen King dome is around this show to protect it from think pieces. What the fuck is a Stephen King? You know, like under the dome. Do you know the show under

You're asking me as a pop culture, really? How long have you know me? Remember in the Simpsons movie where there was a giant dome around Springfield? Okay. Is that based on a Stephen King think? All right, so what about it? So like, Pennywise the clown is protecting curbing enthusiasm from Jezebel think pieces. No, I'm saying

I'm saying that, like, this was the show that did a whole episode about a Holocaust survivor and a survivor from survivor. And you're like, oh, that's right. It gets away with everything. So, so you almost like jettison that part of your brain that's worried about what the – because now when you watch anything in pop culture, you're worried about what the reaction is going to be versus what you're actually watching, right? Like, I'm watching Ryan Gosling not able to keep a straight face during any sketch during SNL. And the entire time, I'm not – I'm not watching a sketch anymore. I'm like, is this going to be chastised or are people going to be?

going to love it. Spoiler, they loved it because he's adorable. And as I'm watching Curb, I'm like, I'm no longer concerned about what the reaction is going to be because this show can get away with anything. It literally can get away with anything. I didn't realize how much I missed the comedy of Kerb. Yeah. And because last November, people were like Donald Trump's president. But, boy, the comedy that's going to come out of this is going to be great. And so far the comedy that's come out of that is a shitty Alec Baldwin impression. Cofeffy and Drumpf. Right. That's it. And like here, it's just like it's this whole other world where you know they can touch on things in society and talk about it and it's funny and it's great and two i have watched leon answer the phone

as larry's assistant about a hundred times yes and it has not stopped being funny you've also left that another part of comedy which is uh jimmy kimball slowly morphing into stoner keith olberman i know like like like it's great what jimmy kimball does and i watch those videos but it's like man it must be so draining on him where he like he wants to go out on stage and do some jokes and it's just like the world's on fire you can't after and by the jesus i don't know how we because we're selfish assholes like condolences to everybody in affected by the shooting in las vegas this weekend for god's sakes it's it was horrific and uh that lozo and i are going to Vegas soon i believe yeah i booked this morning yeah and so you know actually actually the

night of the shooting i actually fell asleep listening to the um the police banner yeah or not scanner scanner scanner police banner yeah they they write what's going on on a crime scene and then just unfurl it across Las Vegas Boulevard. I was picturing David Banner as a cop. I don't know why I said police men. He'd be a Hulk cop? But like I listened to the, but like it was so crazy listening to the police scanner because like you don't realize

like the whole thing happened at Mandalay Bay. Yeah. And like during the course of that, you could hear them say active shooter at and they must have said every single casino because that was a report, but it ended up all them being bullshit. But like you actually could hear the team, the SWAT team go into the room of the guy. Right. And I'll tell you this because this is how my brain.

works, like you can hear the SWAT team like they're whispering. They go, breach, breach, breach. And what do you think is the first thing I thought of when they said that? The Crescruper movie? Ocean's 11. Oh. Because they do a fake SWAT team to go into the, like that pops into my head immediately. I'm like, why would you think of that at this point? Yeah, I mean, I'm with Leahy. I thought you were going to say that Ryan Philippi was trying to catch a spy. Oh, that movie. Yeah. That movie sucks.

No, I, condolences to all, everybody involved in that horrible fucking just, oh, Jesus Christ. But we were talking about Kimmel. And like, in his soliloquy about gun control, he does make mention of the fact that, you know, I don't want to be saying this. I want to get back to comedy. And it must be really hard for all these guys to not constantly say that. Because you, you can't. You're going to come off as the most unfeeling asshole. It's like, you know, bodies upon bodies in Las Vegas.

And you're sad you can't make that Kardashian joke and have to deal with this shit instead. And to be honest, it's probably, you're probably. You're probably just better talking about that than making this the shitty, like, Bill Mar, Lindsay Lohan joke. He's made in his monologue for nine fucking years straight that nobody wants to laugh at it anymore, you know? Yeah. And it's also, it's also the worst part, not the worst part, but like a real shitty part is like everything's the same. Every shooting's the same. Like everyone said, there's always the same thing.

It's always the dude that comes out and says, let's wait a day to talk about that. And there's only so many ways to secure that. Like after a while, you just become, like, there's no way to like be clever, satirical. I have a commentary on it where you're like, It's just every, it's just, why don't, you know what? Automatic rifles are awesome. Second Amendment's the third rail of American political life, though. It used to be abortion, I think it's a Second Amendment now.

I read a good thing where they talked about how, like, cigarettes, you could smoke cigarettes everywhere forever because the lobby was so strong. Right. And eventually they were, they just broke it. Ironically, you can't smoke in the lobby, though. But that was the one argument I read that was good was like, people are always like, the lobby, the NRA, it's too strong, but, you know, it's breakable. Everything is breakable.

So hopefully, hopefully this is the tipping point. But I feel like we'll be doing this next week about something out. There was a shooting, there was an active shooter at USC the next day. No, that was this proven. That was just proven? Well, I'd say everything, too, is that now we're dealing with all this shit too, where the most, one of the sickest things I read about this whole, the whole situation in Vegas was at one point when everybody was trying to figure out who did the crime, a 4chan article was the top hit on Google.

news for the shooter. You just got to burn the internet down, man. We're going to start over again. A fucking forum that exists like docs women and Gamergate and like other shit. And then and then on Facebook that the top hits were Sputnik articles. And it's just like for all this talk about from Silicon Valley about like trying to get. And someone someone said, you know, when you talk about doing changing the news algorithms and stuff, you're talking about censorship. It's not going to at all.

You know, if you're if you're going to put news on your site, you have a journalist. responsibility to make sure that your information's accurate. It's like journalism 001 to fucking know that the shit that you're putting on in your publication or on your site is accurate. So if your algorithm is going to pump up a fucking forum post trying to accuse the wrong guy of being the shooter

in Las Vegas. Or it's like, oh, check out these crisis actors. Like there are people, seriously, there are people who think every shooting is a hoax. What was Alex Jones saying? Yeah. Leftist, Democratic Muslim or Islam or ISIS Some kind of Crisis Actors

Let's wait 24 hours Like what kind of a fucking argument is that Like that's what Imagine any other situation Where like Like you're cheating on your girlfriend With her sister And your girlfriend catches you

Mid-Quitus And she's like What the fuck is this And you're like Let's wait 24 hours Let's not Let's focus on the victims For a little while

Let's not politicize this I'm not done yet Yeah No you get punched in the face By your girlfriend Feelings are feelings have sex with sister you can

like that's it Leahy gets the callback it's fine yeah it was it was a shitty weekend but then every weekend Marty Bruder sister-in-law I get it now ladies and gentlemen

I think it's time for us to transition to another part of the show part that people were very upset about us not getting to last week as part of our season preview we had a lot to get to and good afternoon everybody how are you today

Christmas dog Russo here Mikey Franceser there dog NHL 2017-18 over unders enormously excited to do this I simply don't have enough

liquid next to me to be able to maintain this voice for the next indecidable amount of time dog will do it quick Boston Bruins over under 92 and a half points Mikey under

I take the under two there's simply no way that a 40-year-old Zanitotara is going to be able to play defense for the bowens. Under. Bob of those sabres, Maggie. 88 points.

Over or under 88 points with the boon. For the sabers. I'm sorry, I simply don't know alphabetical order like I used to, Maggie. Dog, Eichel. Over. Maggie, 78 points last year. 88 points going to Vegas.

I'm going to take the over on that one, Maggie. Over 88 points. but not a playoff team for the buffalo buffalo the sabasabas the sabas bobbolo the sabas bobbolo the carolina hurricanes mikey ninety two and a half points courtesy of our friends above veda over under ninety two and a half points mikey over i gotta take the over too on that one mike dog they got the cam award struggling goalie darling over Columbus blue jackets 96 and a half points, Maggie. You got John Tortorella

from my New York Rangers head coach. Gonna take the over. I think I'm going to be over 96 and a half points, Mikey. A healthy Sergey a healthy goal tender means over 96 and a half points, Mikey. Dog, they got that goalie. They got that forward.

They got that other forward. That other forward. Gonna go over. Over. Mikey. The Detroit Red Wings. The pride of. of Middown

78 points They've got Alan Trammell Lou Sweet New Whitaker Chet Lemon Mickey Teddleton Mickey Tedleton

Jack Morris Frank Tanana I'm taking Detroit 78 points I've taken the under Mikey Dog I think we did

the Alan Trammell bit last year too Enormously good joke though Enormous Under Florida Panthers 86 and a half

points They've got, of course, the big superstar, Jonathan, Hugh. Jonathan, who. Aaron Eckblad. Under 86 and a half points, Mikey, it's what my call is. Dog, I didn't fall asleep. Under, under. What sport is this?

Mikey, 56 times standard cup champion, Montreal Canadiens, 99.5 points. Give Kerry Price the money. What are you doing? Oh, they already did. Did no? below 99.5 points, Mikey. Dog, they got Weber. Enormous, enormous shot.

Over. The New Jersey doubles. 74.5 points. The only good things ever kind of have in New Jersey, Mikey. Bruce Springsteen and John Minko. I even know if that's true. 74.5 points. I say over. Nico Hesha.

Ruggy to you in the NHL, Mikey. Dog, who's this Nico? Is he an Italian kid for? Beyon, Nico. I think he calls the show. Enormously talented kid over, over 74 and a half.

The New York Hockey Islanders 88 and a half points. Mikey. You got to sign John Tavaris. You got to do it. He's the franchise, Mickey. If you want to get an arena at Bella Park with a

ponies race, you got to sign Johnny Tavaris. A hundred. The New York Hockey Rangers, 95 and a half points. I'm going to say under. I say the Rangers, Mikey, are the biggest disappointment since our 30 for 30. Dog, who's that center they got there, that Mikey, Mikey guy? Who's the dude?

His name's Mikey. Mikey. Mickey Zabana. Mickey, Mickey, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, enormously talented the Jimmy VC kid gonna go under 95 and a half The Ottawa Senators, 91.5 points Can I even fill the building, Mikey.

The fans don't show up, the points don't show up. Under 91.5, Mikey. Under. The Philadelphia Flyers, 90.5 points. Mike Schmidt. Steve Jelts. Tommy Herr. Vaughn Hayes.

going to go Steve Carlton gonna go under nine and a half Mikey I don't like the flyers this year I think it's gonna be a gestation period before they come back

and wait next year Mikey dog they got that Brenda Moore brand more brand more kids good good player you like him because he's got the face

of a thoroughbred Mikey dog I don't know what that means oh is that dog is that a nose joke dog I don't know what that means under Pittsburgh penguins

two times the end of the cup champions, the only team I actually know on this list. 105 points, Mickey. They're going to be tired. This is a dead tired team, Mikey. Oh, they play a lot of hockey, but they're great. Outside of the bottom, bottom, what is it? One, two, three, four, five.

Out of the bottom six, I'm going to say over 106 Atlantic Division champions, Mikey, or Patrick Division, whatever it's called. Dog, they still got that Benino, enormously talented center. spoke to Bill yesterday about this Wait, wait, wait, wait, Parcell's a Belichick Up at Saratoga

Going to go over Tampa Bay Lightning The pride of South Florida Outside of Christopher Maddog Russo Uh, 102 and a half points, Mikey I like the Oh, wait, no, the under here

I'm sorry, I thought my arrow was going the wrong way I don't know, am I up from down, Mikey? Under. Under The Toronto Maple Leafs, Austin Matthews, Mitch Marner.

These are names I read in a copy of Sports Illustrator on the way here on the subway, Mikey. 95 and a half points over will be my total, Mikey.

Dog, they got Nylander, Marner. A lot of guys whose names end the Nia. Over. Finally,

the Washington Capitals Over under 104. I'm going to tell you right now, Mikey. If Alex is up Betzkin doesn't win a Stanley Cup this year. Get out of town. Get right out of town, Alexovetchkin, with that.

You had, let me single tease it. Right, eight times trying to win a Stanley Cup can't do it. Well, you know what? This is it. No Stanley Cup. No Alex DeVoskin in Washington over 104. Dog, it's 104? 104.

Is that Bryce Hopper going to play this year? Bryce Harper. I'd say, I say it's 310. 35 jacks 95 ribbyes for Bryce dog if hopper's healthy over

if not under I think the question is will the capitals have more points than Walter Johnson had strikeouts in 1923

can you look that up Mikey real quick enough on the we're going to spare you the Western Conference until later because god damn

that's taxing that was impressive I'm happy the Leahy's here to enjoy that Always right to have Mike and the Mad Dog drop by as special guests. It's exhausting. So exhausting that I wish we could take a break and cook a delightful meal with our friends at Blue Apron.

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and your little finder up there. That's blue apron.com slash puck soup, Blue Apron, a better way to cook. I love hearing Greg, so you'll love how good it feels. Just without context. Thanks, Greg. I guess a little confident, aren't we? I guess stop clenching is the parenthetical phrase before I say that, right?

Well, you are 40 now, so. That's true. I don't turn my side. We talked about it on the show. We talked about it. We turned on your side. That's great episode. Grinand Barrett.

We should probably talk a little about Puck Daddy and other stuff real quick. I was trying to think, Leahy, what my favorite, like, five things that ever happened to Puck Daddy were. Obviously, we had a hand in the John Scott thing. Obviously me. Well, that you. We had a hand on the John Scott thing. Who got there first. You were Lambert. You, right? Leahy did.

Leahy was the first person we ever hired. Right. I recruited him because I liked his blog, and I got mad because I thought the stuff that he was writing was better than what I was writing. So Lambert was like the younger brother. He was a couple years later, like two years later. No, it wasn't like two years later. He wasn't like two years later? Yeah, he was another guy that was like had his own personal blog.

I'm like, this is really great. And then I said, why don't you write a Monday column where you have to have a news item for every team? And he's like, this sounds like an enormous amount of work when I will do it. that would have made the right bar thing even better it would have been like if you got blame for something he wrote because you always get blamed for something he wrote that happened what was the thing that happened um shit oh no it was like a it was like a it was a penguin's thing about the white house he said they were all high school educated and had brain injuries yeah yeah yeah he wrote that and then people started to say i wrote it but um no i think the john scott

thing was something beyond my imagination as far as like it you know obviously merrick brisers Raczynski had a part in that and Dangle had a part in that and then we wrote about it too. And that was extraordinary. I would say, Dmitri's Alex Semi interview. That was the first one that ever really hit. For people who don't remember, because this is fucking nine years ago. Dmitri Chesnikov was a guy who wrote for Puck Daddy who used to do translations of Russian interviews.

No one else at the time was doing this. Sometimes he'd do it himself. Yeah. Dmitri would translate interviews that were done for Silvetsky Sport. and then we would publish them, translated, which led into some really murky journalism territory where a Canadian newspaper would be like,

you know, according to Sovietsky's sport, Ovechkin said, I'm like, no, no, no, no. If you had gotten this from Google, translate,

where you probably would have gotten it had we not had it on our site, Ovechkin would have said, is sexy, speed boat, right? But you got it from us, and so you have to say, it's,

the Dmitz translated it, because give the man credit. He did, he did a, as late he said, they did he did face-to-face interviews with athletes too and one of them was Alex Semin and Alex Semin called Sidney Crosby a piece of wood wood what's so special what's so special about Crosby he's like a piece of driftwood or something like that what year was

2008 like this is this first year pretty much and it became this huge thing where like it was like a capital insulting the penguin star and I still remember being in the locker room with Dimitri where Sergei Federoff was on the capitals at that point and We went over to talk to him. And I guess Dimitri had known him a little bit. And Fedroff fucking lit us up in the locker room. He's just like, you know, there's a lot of people who, you know, do interviews with athletes, and they just write complete lies and just make up stuff to get people in trouble and blah, blah, blah, blah.

I'm just like, shit. But everything that Simmons said was true. I mean, it's not true that Sidney Krazi is a piece of, right? He has a personality as a piece of void, but he doesn't play like a piece of voice. Like, hating Christensen is a piece of wood. in all the Star Wars movies. Right. He is. Sidney Crosby, maybe he was like a translation thing.

Maybe he meant like Sidney Crosby was hard. I killed the ball. Who am it? And the children. I just realized my Hayden Christians in that scene is also my, my stimpy. You're mad dog too. All melts together. Gee, Wren, why wouldn't you touch the red candy-like button?

You idiot. Oh, wow. It's Sean Lakey Chama. A little Chihuahua impression. Yeah. Got my one impression out of the way. So that was that The John Scott thing that

I'm trying to think of what the other huge moments for us were Like the thing where I did the Took a picture of the bathroom in Sochi And then got on the front page of the Daily News Was not Puck Daddy specific But that was like One of the greatest moments of my life

Despite then finding out later on That many places in the world don't allow you to flush toilet paper And think you put it in a trash can next to it But it was in the media center That was why it was crazy. Two personal things that I always will cherish from my time of Puck Daddy. The first is the What No Yager meme. And for those who don't know what that is, we did a bit one year, a summer project where we had Mount Puckmore.

Spoiler, it was the Mount Rushmore for each team. And we had people say, like, if you had to pick the four players that would best represent your franchise throughout its history, who would they be? and most of them were very reasonable certain points of of controversy when you're someone like the Whalers for example of several people that could be on the mountain we got one about the Rangers I forget who wrote it do you remember who wrote it

guy from Blue Shirt Bantor was it I think that that blog and Yamir Yager was on the New York Rangers Mount Puckmore who I believe at this point had been on the team for two years maybe to be fair to the person who chose that I mean the Rangers are the shittiest original six franchise going so they really didn't maybe have

take you could take literally like Brad Park and then three guys from 94 and say that's your team Any Giacoman or yeah you go to you go McCorme you go Messier Right leech so he put He put Yager and even if it was a situation I was hoping when he sent it in it was a situation

Where I thought he he didn't realize What we were asking and it was like Just pick the four best players that ever wore the uniform In that case like if you're a devil's fan You're gonna probably put like Peter Stasney on your in your Mount Parker Right or Yager Right exactly

Why not Maybe that's Yager's goal is to get on every team's Mount Puckmore. So, but it wasn't. It was like literally him saying, no, he is by far one of the best rangers of all time and like deserves to be on there. And then for the next,

however many years after that bit, you'd still get what, no Yager things in the comments. And I always would smile and chuckle when I saw that. And the other thing I wanted to mention too, I forget, were you there for the Brian Campbell thing?

Were you at that All-Star game? I was, that was, uh, what was it, Carolina? Yeah, it might have been Carolina, yeah. Yeah, it was where... I watched you speak to an angel representative after that post went up. Yeah.

And then all of a sudden, an hour later, there was a Stanley C. Panther had a little bigger in his crotch. I think I mentioned this in the podcast before, but it was a nude... A picture of Brian Campbell's twig and berries. It was... It was...

It was like signing a jersey and Brian Campbell standing behind him with his twig and berries out. It was on Getty images. We ran it. Did you run it covered at first? It was covered. Okay.

It was covered with like a... little dot or something. It was a Stanley C. Panther head. Yeah, well, I mean, he's an offensive defenseman, and as you know, most of those guys have small cranks. That's right. I forgot the ball of the show. It allows them to go faster.

Right. So. By the way, I found them out in Puckmore. Oh, yeah? Who was on it for the Rangers? Messier. Uh-huh. Leach and Frank Bouchet.

And then Yager. And then Yager. And then there's like a two-paragraph explanation for why I took Yager. By the way, the guy who wrote his name is Jim Schmeidberg? Schmidberg? Yeah. I think he was a blue shirt, Bantzerb. Definitely blue shirt banner.

It was incredible. But like, so the story Layhe's telling is that we had, we ran this picture of Brian Campbell because it was funny. And then we, uh, we then, uh, we were told by the NHL and the Panthers to make, no, we, we, we didn't. It was the Panthers mascot's head the whole time. And, and I went and had several meetings with them throughout the night saying, you have to make the Panthers head bigger on his junk.

Not take down the photo Just make the head bigger I would go back I would adjust Do Brian a favor Make the head bigger Wait why We're like his dick and balls

Poked out from behind the They found They thought the panther's head Was too small I don't know There was maybe some of the The pubic area Was still appearing above the panther's heads

I don't know Maybe it was his agent calling Being like my client's dick Is much bigger than it's being shown Can we at least just make the Panther head a little bigger So every time I go down I talk to the NHL reps

that were there and they would be like you gotta make the Panthers Head bigger. The Panthers Head needs to be bigger on his junk and I'm like I'd go back upstairs and make it bigger. They'd call me back downstairs. The Panther said's still not big enough to cover his junk and then finally they like they were like they went to Getty images and had the photo taken down

because my argument was always like if it's available to us we're going to run it, it's on the wire. And then I think we replaced it with a picture of Franken Beans can with an explanation of what happened. That was also the All-Star game where we were, Wish and I were sitting in the media lounge.

I think we were getting food or whatever. Yeah, we were getting food waiting, I think, before the skills competition. We were sitting by the giant refrigerated full of water. We're sitting there, and all of a sudden, Harvey the Hound walks by with, like, his handler,

opens up the fridge and just starts chucking bottles of water at a handler. Had to be at least six, seven, eight bottles to the guy. Closes and just promptly walks away if nothing happened. Oh, speaking of mascots,

obviously I bury the lead. like, I took several pies to the face at Center Ice during a fucking playoff game because I picked the sharks to upset the Kings or the sharks to beat the Kings and then the Kings came back from 3-0 down

and beat them. The year too early, right? And then, yeah, I know. And then I got, I took pies to the face from Bailey, Bob Miller, Bob Miller, and Will Wheaton. And they they dressed me up in a Sharks t-shirt and painters coveralls and sat me

me a chair at center ice, in front of a sold-out building during the playoffs, and hit me in the face with pies, and cut, it cut me open. Like, cut me, as they say in wrestling hard way, with one of them pie tins. Oh, they had razor blades inside the crimp? That's hardcore. I had the razor blade inside my shirt. He had the crimson mask going like he was Rick Flair. Yeah, and so I'm walking off the ice, and it's like, my face is covered in cream, and there's like a trickle of blood down the cream. It looked, it was just horrific. It looked like, it was just horrific. It looked like, you know, lifetime movie channels

the Ready Whip murders. It's a weird thing to say to somebody that I once got my face cream by Will Wheaton. And Anthromo. Yeah, and a mascot. I know.

And a mascot. And Bob Miller, Hall of Famer. That's pretty hot. Yeah. Good for you, buddy. It was really great. What was the favorite thing

you ever wrote on Buck Daddy? One thing that I really enjoyed was one night I was dicking around on YouTube. Shocker. I came across this hockey trailer of this dude who was turning 40 and he beat Hodgkin's disease, or Hodgkin's lymphoma, I think it's called. You were going to be like Super Mario Brothers.

That took a turn in my mind. I wasn't ready for it. He had Hodgkins and lymphoma and he beat it with one life. I mean, it was the most inspiring story ever. His name was Eric Norton and he had a goal. Once he beat cancer, he was turning 40, he went to learn out of ice skate and play hockey and play in a men's league with the goal of making it to the, The Penguin, Mariamu Fantasy Camp, that winter.

And I saw it. I thought, that's as cool. It was like in the middle of the summer. Called them up, you know, real story about him. I sent it to the Penguin. Just, hey, just thinking, hey, this might be cool for you something you guys might want to write about. It was like 2011. And I got a call from Tom McMillan the next day and said, love your story, sending up.

Mario saw it. And we're going to invite Eric to the camp for free. We're going to bring him here. So that September. He actually was from Western Pennsylvania. He lived in L.A., worked in Hollywood. He went back to Pittsburgh that September. They invited him for a tour of the console.

I think it was the first year console. It was an open or second year. Gets a tour from Dan Bosma, gets to the Penguins locker room. Walks in straight ahead is Ray Shear with his jersey, with his name on it. He finally tells him the news, hey, we're going to invite you to the fantasy camp. And then that February, you know, he learned how to skate. He was playing men's leagues in L.A. And he participated in fantasy camp with Gary Roberts, Theo Fleury, Talkett, Mary Lemieux.

And made it happen. All because of I couldn't sleep one night. Layi was always sort of the, you know, the force of light and the Ian and Yang of the Puck Diety brain trust. He would write these glorious, beautiful stories about people overcoming the odds or like just, you know, you know, the kind of shit that you'd see on like ESPN on like a Sunday morning. And then I would write the shit that you'd see on ESPN at like Chris Connolly like in the afternoon. He was like the good in the light The soft focus feature And I was like

Around the horn Right No no it's like I'm picturing you like getting the budget And it's like Sean Leahy wrote about Chris Laetang's best friend Who died And how he's dedicating the season to him

And then by below it it's like I didn't like that story I know you did And then below it's from Ryan Lambert It's like here's where the Calgary flame suck ass Well it's funny like you mentioned a budget I mean that jokes on you What budget

Yeah to pull the curtain back Like the reason it was so good, to be quite honest, and this is just to me of them speaking to the editors out there, is that we really had no budget. We had no structure. We clearly had no budget. But I mean,

we had no written down budget during the week of the stories that we're going to do. I had editors and people that worked above us that were always like, hey, you got to write down what you're going to do, or hey, you should participate in this conference call and let people know what you're up to. But, like, honestly, being limber and being able to kind of roll what the story is

and be quick and be smart about them, was the reason the blog worked. It wasn't because we were rating down. Today, we're going to have this feature or that feature. And, yeah, we had some daily features that we did, and you could usually know when headlines was going to publish and usually know when Jersey Fowl was going to publish. But for the most part, it was never really planned.

No. That's the best part. Why look like I have a plan? Go find something. No, it was a schemer. CBS. I on hockey is a schemer. You don't know how I got these scars.

I'm just a guy chasing stories. I wouldn't do if I got one. but like the other thing that that lehi and i like i think really kind of were a hive mind on was the standards of it like he and i would trade what there were there were standards we were but yeah we were just talking about publishing guys dick and balls on this site we have standards well i mean like there's always going to be the dick and balls story but like i want the and usually he'd be the one writing it as we just went over standards it's like if you're going to put a guy's dick and balls on the set you're

You don't want to blur it. You want to have some standards and make a something memorable. Put a panthers head on it. I just mean, so for example, like the story that Leahy just told about finding that thing on YouTube. Like other sites during our run would run that video and then offer no context. They just run it. It's an interesting thing. Same thing with a lot of weird shit we found on YouTube.

People still do it. Like fucking the Her Brooks kid. Yes. You know, which I think we were one of the first ones to run that. You can end up on Alan. We, yeah, we found it and ran it. And most importantly, which is what we took pride And we took that extra step, you called the guy's dad.

That's what I was getting at. Like, the standards are that at a time in which digital sports journalism had descended into the just laziest fucking steal shit from Twitter, post the video, speculate what it could be kind of nonsense that you'd see on bar down on TSN. Read it down, you mean. Reddit down. And I read it down on TSN. We tried to do it the right.

way. And I think people appreciated it. Like, I think people really appreciated it taking the extra step to call the guy or to send an email or to find out what, even something as simple as like a crazy highlight from some obscure Finnish league. Find out what the league was and who the teams were. Like, that's such a basic tenet

of what we should do. And yet other sites wouldn't do it and would drive me and lay fucking bonkers. The last white nights, you said, right? The last white nights. In an industry that has got a lot of white. Not many nights. Long nights. Long nights. Long nights.

White Knights. Knights of the round table. A table between two teams. The penguins. The Capitals. Oh, you left the Golden Knights out of that. The Golden Knights. That's because I've never heard of everyone do a Vegas game yet, obviously.

Scarlet Knights, Golden Knights. Rutgers, Vegas. Long nights fall into Golden Knights. Vegas Golden Knights. A flower grows on Las Vegas Boulevard. Flurry. Shiano. So it's a game between the Vegas Golden Knights and Rutgers.

I mean, they're the only nights in sports that are Central Florida's. That's actually their Golden Knights too, aren't they? No, the thing I was going to ask was, Scarlet Knights, Golden Knights, Big Ten, a big night for number 10, James Neal. I don't know if you're number 10 or not. Will this count as a Yahoo memory since it's going to happen now that you're not at Yahoo anymore? When you go to Columbus and get the shit kicked out of you by Columbus Blue Jackets fans for making fun of the Fifth Line. You know what's funny about that is that during all the conversations about the Patriots,

which we haven't talked about what we probably should at some point they'll figure it out The we were like Are you gonna go and do more live shows? And I can't tell you the number of people From Columbus that are clearly setting a trap Oh yeah

We can't go there Come to Columbus here we have this bar It's called the kill floor It has the strongest deadbolt from the inside That no cops could ever break down And once we were torturing you Soundproof windows It's like hostile

You guys are trapped in these dark rooms. I'm Greg Wischinski of Yahoo. Hey, what's that green smoke? Where is everybody? Why have they left the room? We wake up tied to a chair and they force us to watch John Tortoella press conferences.

No, no, no! Let me out! He walks into the room with all of his dogs. You got to watch the USA World Cup games last year. I had you were talking about me, Brooksie. Then I also call Brooksie. Ah, Brooksie, a lightly story. We'll see how loyal a hungry dog

really is. He just starts taking Slapshots As being like You gotta learn how to block him If you want to be a blue jacket We'll see how Cut you up

And feed you to my pooches No John Oh god Yeah we can't go to Columbus We could totally go to Columbus I'm more than willing To go to any

Hostel territory Like hostile territory Or hostile Hostile territory I'm from Jersey He got that cool video game bar That we got stranded I remember

Oh remember when Greg stranded We literally Just talked about This last week I'm not going to allow us to go on this road again with these lies. He abandoned you. He abandoned you as me. Fake news.

Fake news. There was many, many planes flying out at all times. Remember how we didn't get home until Wednesday? And we hung out for two days. I went to that cap's blue jacket scheme, which was terrible. It was a long, goddamn. The worst part was, like, what? So the All-Star game was Sunday, right?

And, like, Monday, my flight was, like, at 11.30. And you knew the night before you were in trouble. And it wasn't until, like, 10 o'clock. You got the text from the airline. Sorry, you live in Columbus now. It's canceled until Wednesday. Until Wednesday. I've never had a situation like that ever.

You couldn't go out of a town for two days unless, of course, you rented a car. Yeah, if only we knew someone had a car and lived in our area. Yeah. It's okay. I spent quality time with Dave. We went to the 16-bit bar. We went to the Blue Jackets game. Oh, we had those burgers.

Yeah, we went to, oh, with Corey, right? Went to that good bread fruit place. And Frank from NHL. Frank, yeah. It had a good time. We made the most of it, despite our predicament. he went home and got drunk with Tim Peel and got Tim Peel. Oh my God, how did I forget that?

I got drunk with the referee and then it got suspended. That's probably another one of the fucking. Oh, yeah, that's a good puckdadi memory. We were just at Leigham and out of just the Foley the other day. Yeah, and we saw his signed baseball on the wall at Foley's. But yeah, I mean, that is, that might be it. Do you think that that's got to be like the enduring legacy of the blog, like the night I got drunk with, only because it was so blog specific in the sense that we were running all these stories throughout the years on Tim Peel,

the continuing adventures of Tim Peel. It was a picture of him with his arms raised, flying to the universe. It was the best thing ever. And, like, at some point, I think, you know, through my conversations with some people in the game that I respect, they're like, you know, you're being a little hard on the guy. Like, everybody makes mistakes. And I would always say, well, not on this level. And there's a reason why he never gets invited to fucking do anything in the postseason. But, yeah, after a while, it became apparent that, like, maybe I should ease up.

And, you know, we were talking about going to Columbus before. One of the things I always try to do at the blog was, if you had beef with me, or if you had a criticism of me, as long as you weren't being unreasonable, like personal attacky, or kind of like misrepresenting the shit that I wrote or whatever, I'm more than willing to engage in a dialogue. And I was more than willing to go meet Tim Peel

and talk things through and at least get a sense of why he's so fucking terrible. So I'll never forget it. I got a text from him. It was just that night. I was in my apartment in the city. And I got a text from him. And it's like, hey, it's Tim Peel.

You know, wondering if you want to go out and have a chat. How did he get your number? From Merrick. Merrick gave me his, he gave him my number. And I had heard from some people that Peel wanted to talk to me. And so like, he texts me and he's like, I'm at this bar. You want to come meet there. And I knew it was fully.

So I knew at the very least it was going to be neutral territory, right? A public setting where he couldn't, you couldn't snipe you. Right. I mean, I remember getting the text and turned to Ruby and being like, are there going to be linesmen outside? They're going to like shank me near the dumpster. after this meeting but I went there and he was seated at the bar and

we had this long conversation a lot of it off the record just about the way that refereeing works and who's the good refs in his eyes and his bad refs in his eyes the bad refereing apparently how refereeing works. Being indicative of not having any mirrors in his house wow but then like

you know I got a better understanding of where he was coming from and I also got a better understanding why a lot of the of the horrible horrific calls that made during his games, not necessarily were all his fault. Like, he was a veteran referee, often paired with younger referees. They would make mistakes, and

then everybody would point to him because he'd be the one announcing the fuck up. No, that's not how it works. We see who puts their arm up. We know who calls the penalty. This is not me saying that he didn't fuck up. He fucked up all the time. That's why they won't let him. He can't even watch the Stanley Cup final. No, but in his mind, in his mind, when he calls a shitty penalty, he feels like we're mad at him because, or

when the other guy calls a shitty penalty, he thinks we're mad at him because he's the one that skates over and announces it? The thing about Peele, though, but the thing about Peele was that, like, it was not a shitty penalty. The thing about Peele was, for a very long time, it was a fundamental misunderstanding of the rules. Like, he was calling fucking goalie interference shit or not calling goalie interference shit that was elementary. And he would just, it was like watching an umpire with a strike, like two different umpires and different nights with a different strike zone. But it was one guy. It was very bizarre. And thank God for replay to, you know, extract the poison of Tim Peel from all of our lives when it comes to goalie interference.

You just gave me an idea. So you basically shat on Tim Peel on Puck Daddy for how many years would you say? I would say it was at least two or three years

before we sat down and that resulted in an interview right so that means for the next two or three years we have to basically savage Margot Rhabi on this podcast

and then eventually like her agent will be like can you just talk about this and then boom we get her in here what kind of accent is that have you even been

to Long Island Suicide Squad more like suicide what rhymes with squad Claude Suicide, Claude Wolf of Wall Street More like the wolf of

God, her movie titles are so hard To fan Tanya, more like I don't want to watch you More like I don't want to Yeah Please come on the podcast Marker and we'll forgive you

I'm sorry about everything You're really famous He's very nice to you He's very mean I'll be nice to you I'll show up Yeah, there's a shock People are just standing outside the window here Just like staring in

You gotta put newspapers up Hey hello mate who are you I am the producer I'm not a wish one It's good to meet you Big fan of the wolf of Wall Street Oh god She plays hockey

She's in an ice skating movie It makes sense It does You know It's not like we're just picking Like famous people out We're just there's a It makes too much sense

But just too bad She's a horrible actress And never whatever It is again Come on we have to This is the plan For the record by the way Just to tie up

Bow around the Tim Peel thing Because I'm sure I'll over talk about it again The tequila shot The infamous tequila shot that got him suspended was his idea. He wanted to do a shot with me. This was after several beers.

And he wanted me to put it on social media. Remember when he had a Twitter account for like four hours? Four hours, yeah. He wanted me to put it on social. To this day, the NHL thinks that's a lie, by the way. They don't believe that they think that because of who I was or who I am, that I somehow tricked an idiot into posing with a tequila shot. You got him drunk.

Yeah, right. But no, he wanted to take a picture with the shots as sort of a goof and had me tweet it. And then the next morning he got a night off. The next morning, I wrote about it and published it the next morning on Puck Daddy because again, he wanted me to because he wanted to clear

the air and clear his good name, the good name of Tim Peel. And then I wrote it and then like roughly 15 minutes later I get like a phone, like a text of him being like, hey I don't know if the NHL really found the whimsy and what we did last night. There's a chance. Shocking.

there's a chance I might not get to referee and I'm like, why? And the post-post-script to this is... Meanwhile, he's giving you a second story to write. Yeah, I know, I know, right, yeah. The post-posts to this is that, you know, the only, I will say, for the record, the only person at the NHL that I know

maybe outright despises me as Colin Campbell. And to his credit, he'll still give me the time of day if we're in a scrum about, like, rules and shit. Like, he's not, he's not Danboiling me. And I'm Larry Brooks. Like, he talks to you, and that's fine. But I know he doesn't like me. And he once gave me the quote unquote, what for,

for what must have been 45 minutes at the outdoor game in Santa Clara, where he just accosted me on this Tim Peel shit. And I gave him the same rundown. I'm like, you don't understand, man. This guy was the instigator for all of it. Like, you think I laid a fucking honey trap for this guy, but none of it was accurate. Like, he's the one who wanted to do this,

to clear his name, to have some fun. Did he know what was going to lead to him? getting suspended for a game because he drank the night before or like whatever the fuck it was? No, not at all but like it was completely his idea to do all that and then to give me the green light to write about

it. They thought I just wrote about it without his permission which is nonsense too. Well, you could have done just asked him, right? Yeah. I mean it's not like I sent him an email to say hey, call more penalties on behalf of my son like that'd be pretty nefarious. A little choke artist. Yeah, that might cost you your job in some places.

Yeah, probably not. Just go on TSN and explain yourself. You just go on TSN and you continue to make seven figures through your age. And then get bumped upstairs. Actually, the thing that probably made the NHL mad was the evidence that he's a bad decision maker because he had three or four beers and then was like, give me a tequila. That shows poor judgment in my mind. He shouldn't be refereeing games.

Beer before liquor gets it quicker. I mean, everybody knows. That's refereeing 101. So, Sean, tell us about what you've been up to. I know you can't tell us specifically what you're going to. I've had a lot of time in my hands the last two and a half months

so I've seen a lot of movies I saw stronger yesterday with Jake Gyllenha What's stronger? Jeff Baumam about the Oh the Boston The Boston bombing The guy who with his legs

And it was very good It'll destroy you in the beginning But it manages to lift you up towards the end Is it better than the Mark Wahlberg movie Where he plays a superhero I didn't see it I heard it was terrible When he takes the tarp off the boat

And he's like Say hello to your mother for me And he throws a bomb in there or whatever I didn't see baby driver yet. I know we discussed that off air a couple months ago, and I was supposed to see the deciding factor, but... Just wait. Wait till it comes out on. Maybe we'll do a poll.

Showtime or something. Everything's fine. That's a great movie. You're going to love it. You can absolutely love it. But you have no... Your taste in movies is slightly better than his. I'll give you that. But I'm not, you know, I'm not a pop culture person. I like what I like. No. What does that mean you're not a pop culture person? You want a TV,

don't you? Yeah, but I can't tell you like the third lead actor and you know, some sitcom from five years ago or a movie. It was probably Ted McGinley. Did you read the Deadspin thing about how there's too much TV now? Like I've never identified with a writing more than that. I do. I completely agree with it.

But it's not just that there's too much TV, there's too much good TV. Like because of the advent of Netflix and other streaming services. Is it good? But sure. Like I heard this show because it's called prestige TV. No, but it's all good. It's just an hour long show. Everybody's got an opportunity to make good TV now.

There's not this like focused thing on four networks. and because of that there's some great TV being made. Like, for example, there's a show on Fox called The Gifted. It's like a, it's like an X-Men. Are you serious? Yeah. It's called the X-Men. It's like an X-Men adjacent show.

But like, I already love the show Legion, which is an X-Men adjacent show on FX or wherever it is. And I don't care to watch another one of those. Like, I feel like I've already seen the best version of it. Right. I mean, like, finally, a show or a movie about young people with superpowers that society will accept. I've never, I've never heard of that concept for a show. We need more superhero TV's and movies. Oh, enough.

Jesus. There's the one with what's his name, Ramsey Bolton from Game of Thrones. Yeah, Inhumans. Which is a spinoff of Agent's Shield. And it was, and that's, that's, that's, Inhumans is an amazing thing, actually, in pop culture. Because the, Marvel doesn't own outright the rights to the proper X-Men, like Wolverine and stuff. That, that's at, those are, those are bad superheroes. I hate these guys.

But, like, but they, they don't own it, right? So now they, they pumped up the Inhumans as, like, their version of. of the mutants. Oh, there's still mutants and inhumans. They're still regular people.

There's a, there's a, it's a special gene you have inside of you a mist that comes of, and you inhale the mist and then you become a mutant

and whatever. But like, that's heroin. They're trying. Originally it was going to be a movie and they're like, nah, we'll put it on TV.

And it's just dog shit. And like, the thing that's happened more off than anything with this prestige TV thing is like, I am more hair triggered than any point in my life

where if I read bad review of something. I'm like, I don't have to pay attention to this. I never give anything a chance anymore. I live for David or like negative reviews. Not for movies. For movies. Yeah. Like it isn't the TV. But like, yeah, I love, I love when he's savage as something I know is bad. What would be, like, I'm on the fence about Star Trek Discovery because I'm a huge Trek fan. Yeah. Like, I feel like I want to watch it. But like, do I need to, should I pay for it? Should I wait for it? What would be a thing that would get you to pay? Wait, pay for? It's on, is it on, it's on CBS, a streaming service. Oh, it's not on CBS.

Is there a thing that would make you pay something extra to what you're paying now versus Beyond this podcast? For network television? I need more Kevin can wait in my life. Let's pause on that. There's that John Larrakett show where it's like there's young Sheldon. That's why Bobby Moyni and left Saturday Night to go to that show. Can you believe it?

Kevin more drunk uncle. Kevin can wait, bought on Leah Ramany last year as his like police partner. Yeah. And then everybody's like, holy shit, we love this because we loved that other show that they were on. 10 years ago. It's the same show now. Hold on. Did you know what they did?

They killed his wife. They killed his wife. And everybody's like, oh my God, how are they going to kill his wife? Like, is it going to be a really poignant episode where they honor the performance of this great actress that she gave for a season? And unfortunately, she's being bumped off the show for Leah Remedy. Wait, let me try and guess. Layer Remini hits her with her car. No.

Even worse. He gets a call from a, like a gym, like a gym, saying, hey, do you? it was a letter It was a letter asking if his if his now dead wife who died between seasons wanted to join this gym

and this is the only thing said about the death of his wife on the show it's then followed with hey don't get rid of the letter I might want to take those judo lessons it's a line about her dying and a joke about his being being fat

and then that's it they don't talk about the dead wife anymore and then like the theme song kicks on and like lay around these Kevin can wait he can wait to me to know the woman close his wife everything is the same like seriously

like Star Trek let me guess they they go to they go to new galaxies and planets and they encounter aliens it's literally called Star Trek Discovery asshole like what the fuck do you think they do on it? They watch Shark Week no but that's redundant all the start every Star Trek mission is about discovery like Star Trek Discovery that's like James Bond secret agent

like we know what James Bond does why is discovery that's why people really like Deep Space 9 because it wasn't about discovery it was like they're there and then people discover their shit like that the mall they lived in or whatever the fuck it was. That was actually Patrick Stewart's nickname for his penis on the show. Well, he made his erotic gicks.

Engage. Hockey podcast. We're going to get to Marion Host in a second. But now, of course, it is time to do the next part of our preview. And good.

Later in the afternoon, everybody. How are you today? Christopher Mad Dog Russo, Mike Frensessa, Megan the Mad Dog, Western Conference picks. Mikey, the Anaheim Ducks, 106 points. Gonna take the over here, Mikey. I like the Ducks to go to the Cup final, Mikey, with our defense. Under.

The Arizona Coyotes, Mikey, 75 points. Pleasure in the desert. What? I'm going to pick the over on that one. Mikey, 75. I will say that they would probably, probably, probably get over 75 points, Mikey. Dog. Max Dolmy doesn't like foreigners coming into his country, apparently.

Oh, God. Don't like that guy. Yeah. But I got to go over. You know, stick to sports, everybody. Athletes tweeting about immigration policy, you know? The best was like, he tweets it, and he's just like, let's have a conversation. and then I went back to his Twitter account like two hours later

and he hasn't replied to anybody. Yeah, he hasn't replied to anybody, right. Because the conversation was literally everybody throwing stats at him about how most crimes are not done by immigrants and immigrants. The inclusion of immigrants in your community actually bring down the crime rates. Yes.

And he's like, let's have a conversation. You guys talk. Let's continue with the bit and I will go to his Twitter timeline and see if he's actually invited. Mikey Calgary Flames, as you know, signing Yamir Yager this week. 95 points I'm going to take the under

I do not believe the Calgary Flames Even with the great Yanni Ardiagar One of only five hockey players I know Are gonna make the playoffs Mikey Dogg they got the They got the Goodrow kid from Jersey He's like 5'4

144 pounds Over Mikey the Chicago Blackhawks Over under 100 and a half points Let me tell you that right now, Mikey. You do not doubt the greatness of Jonathan Toes. Jonathan Toes is the greatest captain that this world has seen since the great Derek, Derek Jeter.

It's twos. Not Toes. Jonathan Toos. That said under a hundred and a half points, Mikey. Like half of four is two. They're not going to make up. Two twos. Dog, I'm going under.

The team's got some thoroughbreds for sure. Kind of horses you'd see it's Saratoga. Winning porces, but I still got to go under. Maggie, Colorado Avalanche over under 70.5 points. Let me tell you something right now, Maggie. It is literally impossible to get 70 and a half points. You cannot get a half point in the National Hockey League. Last time I checked, it's going to be the end.

Dog, can we confirm that? Can I produce or go out and check and make sure you can't get a half a point? No. No? Okay. Over. The Dallas Stars. 97 points, the Olerunder.

Let me tell you that right now, Mikey. It is great, absolutely great to see Captain Kangaroo getting work at his advanced age, the best coach of National Hockey League for my money, and an amazing humanitarian at that. Captain Kangaroo and the stars will go north of 97 points, Mikey. Dog, the Seguin kid's pretty good. I like the Ben kid. Smart player. tall, kind of thick in the middle, like me, over.

Edmondson Oilers over under 104 points, Mikey. You put a talent like the 9-year-old Connor McDavid on the same line as a legend like Yari Curry. You're going to be better than 104 points, Mikey. Dog, dog, I think Curry retired, or maybe he's a Ranger. I don't know if he's a Ranger. I think he's a Ranger. Over.

Los Angeles, Mike. Mikey, over under 8.9 points. You've talking, Oral Hershey's, Kirk Gibson, Mike Sosha, all of the greats. They'll be better than 98 points and a half, Mikey.

Dog, one time I was at dinner with Bill and Pedro Guerrero. Bill... I was trying to figure that the fuck Bill Guerrero was. Dog, Bill was a winner. Pedro was a winner. The Kings are not winners. Under. The Minnesota Wild, one of my favorite teams that did not have an S at the end of their names, along with the Miami Heat, and also the Miami Heat.

Over under 96.5 points, I take the over, Mikey. Over. Mikey, the Nashville Predators, 97.5 points. Last year, I understand they played for the NHL championship, which tells me their quality team. But you know you've got to be careful about, Mikey, the hot chicken. You don't want to have too much of the hot chicken. It will melt your brain, make your tongue flow out of your mouth. That's why I say Nashville lower than 97.5 points, Mikey.

Dog, do they still got that pecker, pecker, pecker, pinner. The pecker. I like pecker. He's good. Solid goaltender. Small player under. San Jose Sharks, 96 points. I see no way, no way, Mikey, that a team that has both Pat Falloon and Arturus Irbe could be less than 96 points, I'll take the over.

Dog, these Bay Area teams like your giants, your sharks, they're not good, under. Maggie, St. Louis, over under 95 points, Jack Clark, John Tudor, Ty Borell. Ozzie Smith, Vince called him. Vince called my Cardinal, or was he red? Dog, he was a Cardinal. No. Early McGee. Over under 95 points.

I'll tell you something right now, Mikey, without the great Patrick Brugland. What? What was that? Patrick Brut. Patrick Brut. Alex Steen. The blues are going to be South of 95, much like Florida, my home state. Dog Hull, Oats, Janie.

Over. The Vancouver Canucks 73 points over under. I'll tell you right now, Mikey. Don't ever underestimate the power of Hendrick and Daniel Sedin, the Sadine twins. Why gets hurt? The other one feels pain, Mikey. That's the way twins work. Not twins like Kirby Bucket and Kent Herbeck and Gary Gotti.

These are different twins. I say under 73 points, Mikey. You dog, like the twins in Hellboy, too. They were pale. hair. One got stabbed and the other died. Dog, I saw the movie with Bill.

Excellent performance from Ron Perlman. The Canucks. Under. Now it says here the next one over under 68 points, the Vegas Golden Knights. Let me tell you some right now, Mikey.

There is absolutely no way that a male strip review is going to get 68 points in the National Hockey League it might be good for the ladies Mikey and bachelor party's not good so good for NHL hockey but I'll take over 68 points

Dog and Hellboy 2 It's the golden army Not the golden knights Directed by Guillermo del Grameau Grimmel Grimmel Ron Pullman was in it Mikey

Dog Benicio del Toro And he's the one who directed Over Under 68 Gonna go over Finally Mikey the Winnipeg Jets the great Winnipeg Jets from Winnipeg, Manitoba Say it once

To say it again, Mikey Never bet against T-Buselotti! The Finnish flash! There's no way Chris Rousseau knows The single of the greatest Atlee from Finland This side of Atley Hamaker

Of the San Francisco baseball giants Over under 991 and a half points, Mikey I say over Dog the storyline in Hellboy 2 Not as good as the original much the same way the the sequel of the Jets is not as strong as the original

under 91.5. End seen. I don't know why people ever want us to do that bit, but people were like legit upset we didn't do Mike and the Mad Dog Overrunners last week and I had no idea why? We totally forgot. We totally got lost in politics.

And people were like, why didn't you do it? I know. Like this is a horrible bit. Like what two replies were like, yeah, what you guys said about, you know, the flag and kneeling was really great. And five replies were like, Where the fuck is Mike and the Mad Dog?

You said at the top of the show you were going to do it. I listened for two hours and there was nothing. Nothing. All right. Sorry. Before we get to the Marian Hosa thing, should mention that this episode of Puck Soup, this is a hat trick, ladies gentlemen.

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Yeah, sorry. Go Yankees. We're transitioning from serious political and national news to baseball to hockey to... Aaron Judge, flash in the pan or real deal. Is he the next Kevin Moss or is he going to be the next big slugger? No, he's the next big slugger. Remember when, like, the world was falling apart after the All-Saur game and the Homer and the Jervie?

I can't remember what time. Well, the baseball world and he couldn't hit. Now, September came and he helped me win my fantasy league. He's the MVP for the American League, right? Yeah. I agree. All right. Here's the big topic there. Everybody's talking about as you the show today. The Marion Hosa situation, the National Hockey League is allowing that Chicago Blackhawks to put Hosa on long-term injured reserve, clearing out $7.2, I'm sorry, $5.275 million in cap space. for those who don't know, Hosa has a skin condition. He's had it for several years. He's been taking drugs to try to play through it or live with it in where he can't. It's like the saddest fucking story you could possibly imagine. Like he's one of the greatest hockey players of all time, yet his body rejects the very equipment he has to wear.

It's crazy. So he's going on long-term injury reserve ostensibly to end his career. I only see that because in these statements put out by the Blackhawks, Hosa and his doctor during the summer, none of them contained the word working his way back to play. None of them contained the word comeback. None of them contained the phrase looking back to get Marion back on the ice. None of it. It was pretty clear by those statements that this is the end for him.

Where it gets a little dicey is that Marion Hose's base salary dropped from $4 million last year to $1 million this year and will be $1 million for the next four years as part of the contract that he signed that was a clear cap circumventing backdiving contract. but at the time was completely legal and now the conspiracy theory one that I freely admit I am the fucking Fox Mulder of is salary drops to

a million conveniently Marion Hoseley's leaves the national hockey league at the time in which you would have expected him to leave when he signed that contract because he's not playing for a million dollars what do you think Henry Zetterberg's thing is going to be next year I think Henrik Zetterberg is going to play two more he says he's going to play this year or next year

then his salary drops Oh, I thought it dropped after this year. It does drop, but not away to $1 million, I don't think. I think he's freely talked about, as Alpherson talked about too, I think the notion of his contract being a sham. And, like, the fact that, you know, when they signed it, it was a sham. Well, he said that to the Swedish media, but when asked North American media, he kind of backtracked those comments a little bit. That's the best part. That's it always happens, right?

Like, Andre Pavlick's like, fuck America. Then it comes back. And he's like, no, I was saying, like, I think America is so hot. I want to have sex with it. That's just that got lost in translation. Thomas Grice? by the way Wait were you thinking

to Grice or were you thinking about Pavlik? No Pavlik Pavlik said something Or maybe oh no Maybe he was Pavlik Like he got arrested for something In the office DUI

Yeah Remember we got to DUI a couple years ago? Oh is that what it was? This is great It's not like he plays In our city now or anything We're gonna have to like walk into the locker And be like oh hey

I just accused you of being Anti-American and or drunk On our podcast Well on both of those things So that's fine But isn't it weird though How all these teams That won Stanley Cups

Between like oh not and 15 have these clearly illegal contracts on them. Boy, how are the Black Hawk so good? I don't know, because they got Marion Hosa for a price that he shouldn't be at. That's the one thing that really bothered me about the, listen. I don't think there's anything. My heart goes out to Hosa. No, it doesn't.

It does. Look at you. My theory is that. You're wearing a fuck Hosa t-shirt right now in this room. I'm looking right at it. Christ, Greg. Be honest about it at least. It's actually, it reads, it reads Huck Fosa.

It's really clever. available at puck soup.com slash merch my heart goes out to the guy because he has to live through this thing it's extraordinarily painful apparently but I just tend to believe that isn't it only painful when he's playing though

is not painful when he's walking around the drugs he takes to overcome it also have really bad side effects that's one of the reasons he's retired well he's going on long term whatever the fuck the point is that his contract was structured in a way that told you that he was not going to play this year

and he has said in his statement that he's dealt with this ailment for several seasons. So I don't think it's outlandish to, you know. If he was making $4 million. He's making $4 million. Or in the previous year, $7 million that maybe you play through it or have the desire to play through it more than now. And I just, I find it to be convenient that it all happens now.

I also find it convenient that the Hawks get out of this contract. And the thing that pissed me off about the Chicago fan reaction to this thing was this. like they're like oh you know in no way shape or form are the blackhawks a better team without marian hosa i'm like be that as it may they weren't a better team when they got rid of bufflin lad browbrower campbell letty sod sharp yarmelson shaw tarra vinen they weren't a better team when they got rid of all those people and all those people were very beloved players in one way shape or form but they had to get rid of them because they were fucked in the salary cap so this is to me yet another example of

yeah, they're probably not as good without Marion Hosa, but it's not as if this isn't Stanwoman's fucking M.O. to when you are under a cap crunch, to make a beloved player's contract disappear, even someone like Marion Hosa. And they couldn't get rid of anybody else.

That's the other thing, too. Everybody else is a no move clause. Well, they could have got rid of Brett Seabrook. Brent Seabrook would have left if they would have sounded the right place. You think so? I think so. Maybe they tried. You didn't want to go. point is he's still there. Point is that you had to figure out a way to get other guys

off the roster and this way you clear off the cap space. And again, like, for sure, they might not be as good without Marian Hosa, but they sure is shit will be better on the back end without Marion Hosa because they can spend that money on defense if they want to. Yeah, but they can't spend it until next year.

It's not like they're going to be better now because... No, they can spend it right now. They have cap relief. Well, yeah, but there's no one to get. So says you. So they're going to trade for a top four defenseman tomorrow? Come on. They're not better now because of it.

sure yeah you don't think there's a chance they trade for a defenseman or get a defense at some point who's out there right now yeah teams don't make trades in October

but at some point the coyotes aren't selling off their team just yeah give them a few weeks yeah like look at Oliver but Marston in like April or something or March at some point during the season there's not going to be the opportunity

to make a trade for a defenseman at some point yeah but you don't know how the season to play out sure but now you can do it you couldn't do it before with hosts on the cap my point is that

every way, shape, or form this benefits the player, because he never intended to play this year based on what we know about the contract, and the team, which gets cap relief. I just find it to be way too convenient. And again, the other thing that pissed me off, too, is that saying that does not mean that Marion Hosa is fabricating a sickness. It just means that, according to everything that we know in all the way the arrows are pointing, it pointed to this year not being a year in which he played, and he's not playing at it. But we kind of expected that with all those deals, right? All those backdiving deals where, hey, drop some. off three, four million dollars and

until the NHL's sort of that bullshit cap or capture. Oh, yeah. The thing is, is like, what could the NHL do? It reminds me of when there's like a call on the ice and then they have to review it and they review it and you're watching it and you're like, I don't know, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. We've got to go with the call on the ice.

The call on the ice is Marion Hose can't play anymore because he has a skin disease. Like, the NHL wasn't going to step in and be like, no, you're faking. Like, how would they ever, like, what was ever going to be the result of that investigation? Right. So it is what it is. So in lieu of doing the mailbag, which is on the Patreon now, we're doing a question of the day.

And the question of the day, question of the week pretty much. What are your thoughts on the Marion Hoso long-term injured reserve situation? Andrew Tammone, who's a devil's fan, writes in, as a devil's fan who dealt with the Kovilchuk contract penalties, I think the league allows other teams to slide on contract cheating again. Again, I don't buy that. Like, I think that had Hosa. They have to, do this because if HOSAD retired, they get hit with CAP recapture. And it's not, again, that's, to me that

statement is sort of indicating that they're ginning up a oh, he's got rickets. You know, or some shit. No, he's got this disease he's dealt with for years. He's on the org on trial last weekend. Ricketts? Is you go to that and say, Ricketts? Duger 66

rights would Hosea have signed that contract if this wasn't an option. I think, again, like, everybody signed those contracts because at the time they were legal and no one could see down the road that capric capture was going to be a thing. You're saying that, what, 09 or 10? Wait, so, okay, how about this?

What if Capri Capture wasn't a thing? Think Kosa still plays for the million bucks, or no? Or he could just retire. Pat Clark wants to know. And it'd be clean from both sides, right? The Blackhawks weren't to worry about anything. Pat Clark wants to know, I don't doubt the medical condition, but how could he play with it last year?

Did his body have three million more of something? I mean, that's a bit of it, again, like all these guys were willing to play through the rickiness of old. old age to then get to that season where their salary drops to a million and then stop playing. Well, how long has he been dealing with this? He said for the last few years. Now, granted...

So it could get worse. It could get worse. The medication could probably exacerbate the situation. Zombies ate my name, writes in. I believe he has a skin condition and I also believe he'd be playing through it if he was getting paid more. Which I think is... I mean, yeah, I think he would have maybe come back this year were it not for the drop

in salary. Sure. Sean Hunter, Blackhawks took advantage of a medical condition. Report state continuing mids is dangerous for Hosa. Anything else out to dispute that? No. But I mean also, there's been a lot of that too about like, oh, did the black, how could you say the Blackhawks would force him to do this? Like, why wouldn't the PA get involved? I don't think anybody's saying that.

I think he's part and parcel of this because he signed a contract that indicated that when he gets to be 39, which he is in January, he's not going to play anymore. Here's how they could have, how they could have gotten them, ready? Scott Bacula leaps into Marion Hose's body and reports on the pain he feels while playing hockey or just doing everyday things leaps out of it and then he's the arbitrator at the contract hearing and then he decides how bad the pain is. I mean, I don't know why they didn't do that.

Yeah, why didn't do that? Isabel wants to know not sure which pile of bullshit is bigger. The contract that was designed to not be finished or the NHL making them pull shady shit to avoid punishment for a contract that was legal at the time was written. And this is the big picture. I say it's the second thing.

It's the second thing. Yeah, I agree with people that say that in focusing on what the Blackhawks have done, it almost takes your eye off the puck. By the way, by the book, it's on Amazon.com. In the sense that it's the NHL's decision in the last CBA to make these contracts illegal and then retroactively punish the teams that dabbled to them that make... Anytime somebody, anybody dabbles in the dark arts of the dark arts of the dark arts of cap circumvention or getting around rules,

it's because the NHL has established something that's stupid. Which is often. Right. And that's why Lulamuro was Lulhu for all those years because the NHL would say, we can't do this, and Lou will be like,

ira, yes, I can't do it differently. And then they're like, well, you can't do it either. And he's like, ira, well, then he has another thing. And then they just go back and forth for fucking forever. And no one's heard from Dan McGillor of Vladimir Malikoff.

Right, exactly. Vladimir Malikoff, I believe we shot into the sun at one point. But like, I think in this case, the big picture is the right one. which is that the cap-recapture penalty in the CBA was horseshit. These were legal contracts just because your dumbass board of governors didn't have a foresight to make sure they couldn't do this. Or, excuse me, let me reverse that.

Actually, we're a party to allowing these contracts to exist because then they could keep their rosters together for longer. And then decided, oh, we didn't realize these five guys were going to go off and do it on their own. No, the problem is that there's only so many guys who you would give that contract to. There's not 30 guys who you would give a cap for capture eligible contract. But it's not even that. It's also there's like six teams that would do it. So then when teams are looking at the Blackhawks and the Red Wings, who were the two biggest purveyors of these contracts with Keith and Hosa and then, you know,

Zetterberg and I think was Franz and one two. Yeah. They looked at those teams and like, how are we supposed to compete with these teams that are fucking cheaters? And the teams are like, but we all agreed that we could do this. And they're like, fuck you. We're going to get you guys in the next fucking CBA. And look what happened. They got him in the next CBA.

and then the Blackhawks have to do this fucking chicanery to get around the whole thing. I like how the Blackhawks and Red Wings just did the cap recapture stuff or not the cat or did they just, you know, did the backsliding contracts. And Dean Lombardi was like, oh, I'll frame them for international crimes as they cross borders. That's how I get out of it. And Ted Leonis is like, what? We'll just give Alex all the money. What, you're going to be 55 at the end of the contract?

You'll still make $9 million. Who gives his shit? We're selling T-shirts. We'll just say Kobe to Russia. It'll be fine. We'll work our way out of it. All right. That's the show for this week.

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