Puck Soup - Super Troopers 2

Episode Date: April 20, 2018

Greg and Dave welcome Kevin Heffernan, Steve Lemme and Erik Stolhanske from Broken Lizard as we talk Super Troopers 2 (out on 4/20, of course), Steve's love of the Rangers, Erik's love of the Wild and all things Minnesota, and the time Kevin was chased around naked by an NHL player. Plus, the time they broke the Stanley Cup, the time they were punched in the face by Colton Orr, being cult movie icons, how comedy has changed since the first Super Troopers and why mocking Canada is god's work.

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Ever, Pablo Schreiber. By the way, O'Shea Jackson is Ice Cube's son. Right. And I remember watching Straight Out of Compton. I remember watching Straight Outta Compton like a couple times and being like, how do they find this guy who looks just like young Ice Cube? And then like I went to his IMDB and I was like, oh, that's it. He was great in that movie.

How weird with, I can't even wrap my brain around the idea that like, if they made a movie about Bob Wichenski that like I would play my dad in a movie. Yeah. And that works out. Yeah, be... Probably got up for a discount, too, because he's, like, family, the family hometown discount. But isn't it, wouldn't it be weird if your, like, dad was famous for being a rap guy and he's at parties with, like, naked women, and they're just being soiled by rap guys, and, like, you're part of that. No, like, Ice Cube comes over and he's like, hey, listen, here's what I would do with the girls.

I want you to touch her... Like, what, Dad, no! Yeah. I want to hear about that. Yeah. And, like, even though Cube was part of the movie, like, I don't feel like he had the same influence on it that Dre did. Like, the guy who played Dre and Strait of Compton, like, Dr. Dre and Strait of Compton, is basically, like touched by an angel like he's just like the sweetest nicest kid that's what

everyone says is like because EZE obviously cannot be part of it so like he gets made out to be the like bad guy quote unquote and everyone else is like the hero of the story and like the two biggest comebacks in the movie are EZE and Giamati's character the manager guy know what I was thinking so that that album comes out right it's like this groundbreaking transcendent world-changing album right it's it reflects the lives of like young black men in Southern California and their and their their fears of, you know, possibly being killed by gangs or drug dealers or cops, the abuse they get from cops, right? Fast forward to 2018, straight out of Compton, is now a movie.

And, like, that's how far it's come. I'm in Hoboken and I'm down in the water and I'm jogging. I jog past the guy who's wearing a t-shirt with cookie monster on it, and it says straight out of cookies. Right. It's incredible, right? Could you imagine back then that they would ever think that's where it would go in, like, the world of pop culture? You know you should be happy about that? Straight out of cookies.

Ice tea and body count, who's a cop killer will come back around it. There'll be a picture of cookie monster. Just cookie killer. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's going to be great. Like, I was barely alive back then, but, like, just the thought that that's where that piece of culture is at now where it's the cookie monster. Yeah, straight out of cookies. Yeah.

Straight out of course. It's like in 10 years from now, if, like, there's Sesame Street references to Antichrist superstar and... Yeah. Berlin Manson. Right. Like, any piece of art that's transcendent or anything. at the time at some point eventually becomes part of like fodder for other things.

Josh Manson, the Maryland's daughter in Antigray Superstar. Like the Mona Lisa was painted. Back then it was probably like, oh wow, this is such a edgy portrait of a woman and now like it's like a joke in like every third movie. She's showing a lot of rest. Right.

All right. This is, as you know, this is not an episode you may have been expecting because we put one out previous this week, but it's for a very special occasion, which is the release of Super Troopers 2. On 420. On 420.

Whatup, what up? And the fact that three of the broken lizards, who, by the way, refer to themselves as lizards, like in casual conversation, which is great. So one of the other lizards is over at ESPN right now. But I guess it's fine, because, like, I feel like the Monty Python guys used to call each other pythons, too.

No, is that true? Yeah. Actually, Hulk Hogan was a member of Monty Python. Because he would always reference his python. It's 24-inch python, brother. The 24-inch python, by the way, was Michael Palin, I believe. God, that's a great joke. I'm applaud myself for that joke.

right there. So we have three of the broken lizards here today. Kevin Heffernan, who is the officer Farva of your dreams and super troopers, Steve Lemmy and Eric Stolansky. So Eric is a huge Minnesota wild fan. Poor bastard. And Steve, we found out a huge New York Rangers fan. Poor bastard.

And Kevin does have love of hockey in his heart. Kevin's a Giants fan. He's more of a football baseball guy. Football baseball. Giants, Yankees, as is, you know, the way that. this thing works. It's amazing how it always breaks that way. It really does.

Giants, Yankees, Mets Jets, Jets. But we wanted to have these boys in for a long time, and finally they were in New York to promote Super Troopers, too. And so, listen, to be quite honest with you, we're broken lizard fans, and we want to support their work. And so we didn't want to wait, we didn't want to wait too long to give you a new episode

because we wanted to be able to cover, like, playoff shit. But also, we didn't want to wait to give you this episode, because we're hoping that if you support them, too, you'll go out and see the movie because as it was explained to us by Kevin, like, the better they do in opening weekend, the better their chances are that they're going to be able to make more stuff.

More Super Troopers, more pot-fest. I believe I called it weed fest. It's pot-fest. The Marijuana Fest, young people. Yeah. What will be, I guess they'll have Das Bong in that one. You have to turn the bong a certain way, watch out for the bubble.

But yeah, so that's the whole point is that like we're thrilled to have these guys in studio and also hoping that you go and support Super Troopers too so they can make more stuff. And also, like, you know, we figured it'd be good to just kind of give you this as an extra episode and not, you know, take time away from all the playoff talk that you want to hear.

It was either we hold the main episode until whenever you're hearing this, which would have meant, because we did an episode last week, what, on Monday? We did it earlier than usual. So that would have been like a nine-day layoff. And if we waited on this one, like imagine if we interview these guys for an hour,

then we put it out next Thursday. Hey, go see you. Infinity War is out. Yeah, Infinity War. They're down to three theaters in the United States because Infinity War came out. So go see it. Go see Super Troopers.

We haven't seen the actual movie, but I'm going to at this point. It looks funny, man. Go see it right meow. I get it. That's because of the meow. But also, as you'll find out, we talked about with the boys,

it's also an attack on Canada. So, I mean, if you're a regular list to puck soup, that you know, this is relevant to our interests. Boy, they sold this right off the bat, too. Yeah. But before we get to the boys, there was one bit of NHL news

that broke today on Friday, which is, of course, the resignation of Bill Peters as Carolina Hurricanes head coach, a man who has startlingly good possession numbers, and every year he's been a head coach in the National Hockey League. And either you're, like we said the other day, you're either going to believe that he's been undermined by terrible goaltending, or you're going to believe that maybe he deserves at least a modicum of blame for them not being better this season.

I like how I really don't make too many predictions that I deeply care about, But I like how the two things that I'm most invested in at this point are going to be Scott Darling related. Whether or not Scott Darling is actually really good and better than Corey Crawford, which we didn't really find out or not. Yeah, too, that's, I mean, you're going to say that's TBD, although there's a massive amount of evidence that Cory Crawford is a better goalie. But this is like me doubling down. Because now if Bill Peters goes somewhere else, and that team sucks. And Scott Darling is at like 922 next year, this guy got it right. Now, conventional wisdom says that.

somewhere else is going to be Calgary. He's got a relationship with Brad True Living going back to the 2016 World Championships where True Living hired him to be the head coach of that team. The idea that he'll be the man there was also exacerbated by the press conference that True Living had recently that said, hey, you know, he got asked. He's like, hey, Brad, buddy, did you make this decision to fire Glenn Gulletson because there's someone else available that you might want to hire like right now? And True Living's like, he dropped the football down on his foot,

and he literally punted it across the field to avoid having to answer the obvious question, Bill Peters, Bill Peters gave the fair catch signal. Yeah, Bill Peters. Got it. The answer is obviously yes. They had somebody in mind, and all of us assume it's Bill Peters. You know, it's, listen, I don't know what to make of him. I agree with those people that say that he was undermined by bad goal-tending in previous seasons.

I thought this was a playoff caliber roster for the hurricanes this year, especially on the back end. And I know that the Scott Darling thing was disastrous, but I don't necessarily know if this shouldn't have been maybe a little bit of a better team, especially offensively than they were this year under Bill Peters. I can't wait to find out. I can't wait to see what team he goes to and then see what Carolina does with their coach and then see what Carolina does without Bill Peters. Oh, I'm so invested now in Carolina hockey. Yeah, because we're Tom Dundon fans. Well, yeah, actually, Tom Dundon has announced that Tom Dundon will be the general manager, and he will hire Tom Dundon as head coach in Carolina Hurricanes.

He's, I'm a billionaire, I can do whatever I want. The GM thing I have no idea on, but I mean, everything that we've heard, like, is that he's got a real boner for hiring Rod Bremdmore as head coach. Well, I mean, he's gotten to know Rod Rendemore over these past six weeks, so he must know really well about what kind of coach he's going to be. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

And that's going to be great when they're like, hey, coach, You think we should maybe, you know, try to work this power play differently or... Watch me lift this car up with my own fucking muscles. Is he that? Is he super jacked? Yeah. I always think of Rod the bod. I always think of Rod Rendemore back in the day as like the guy. So like we've come to a point in hockey where I feel like we all know face-offs aren't really that important. But Rod Rendamore, every time you went on the ice, it was like you knew that guy was going to win a face off.

That's always what I first think of with him, whether it's Philly or Carolina. And also his face. You think of his face, too. He's got the... equine He's got a schnaz comportment He's got a

Is he really jacked though I never thought He never thought of him As being a super jack guy He's jacked It's funny But you mentioned noses Uh

John Bucci Gras The other night tweeted out A pasta emoji Plus nose emoji Equals goal For a Pasternack And Marshan goal

And right Brad Marchan's And Ruby Ruby saw it On my Twitter feed And she's like What's that And I'm like

Oh this is kind This is kind of a shorthand For like David Pasternack Because he's pasta And Brad Marchan because of his nose. She goes, it's kind of mean. And I thought to myself, yeah, it is mean.

And then I remembered, no, this is a guy who wore a nose face killer t-shirt. He's in on the joke. He's leaned into it. I think he's leaned into it in a way that maybe Rod Bremdmore did not during his career. Well, yeah, because I feel like Rod Rendamore could beat the crap out of anybody who ever said anything to him about it. While Bradmore Shan's more like, I'll spreeing the balls when you're not looking. Right. I'll lick your face when you're not looking.

But he's probably not going to fight you. Yeah, literally when you're on the ice and you're like, Hey, Rod, looks like you should be running in the Kentucky dirt. And then before you get out the B, he's used his stick blade to knock out your front teeth. Oh, you're saying he's a horse face. Yeah. I got to look at Rod Rendonore again. Maybe I'm not remembering what he looks like.

I'm going to do it right now. I'm going to do it right now. I'm trying to picture it. I always pictured him as like a... Tell me how you picture him and then I'll tell you... Like a handsome Mike Ritchie. Like a handsome rodent? Like a...

Like he's got like a chiseled like good looking face, I thought. No, he's got a horse face? This is the analysis you get when it comes to coach hires on Puck suit. This is Rod Brindamore. He's kind of like... Oh, his nose isn't really that big. Hold on. Well, it's not like fucking humpty hump, but like...

That's what I thought it was. I've totally misremembered Rodbrennormor's face. Look at it. Look at it. Come on. Oh, it's not, yeah. He has like the nose of somebody who's like been a prize fighter. Like he kind of has like that punch in the face.

Oh, he's got a bit of a pulse. Paluca nose. Is that the term for it? I mean, that's what the... Yeah. Yeah, I totally... But again, like, like there, he looks like a... He said a more handsome Mike Ricci. Yeah, I totally... It's not what he looks like at all.

It looks like. It looks like maybe a more equine Chris Chelios. I don't see... Yeah, he does look like Chelyos. I don't see the equine part of him. He doesn't have a long face. So you can't make, though, why the long face joke? Yeah, that's the key to many horse face. That's why the long face. Why the long face? That's like, that's like the checkmark in the joke book is like, can you say this to this

person? No. All right. kind of horse face. Well, now that we've gotten the modern hockey news out of the way, we will now discuss Rangers' fandom, wild fandom, comedy, Super Troopers. Oh, you're going to hear Sidney Crosby called Cindy, so just brace for it

now, just get ready for it. Yeah, but it's coming from a Ranger fan, so it's just kind of ingrained. Yeah, it's just, just be ready for it. And, and yeah, here are the boys from Broken Lizard. The Lizards. Sticks and hits and goals and saves and slap shots and goons. We've got

sportly commentary to what if you commute. We also cover movies, TV shows, it's in tunes. It's your weekly bowl of hockey and nonsense. We're here with Kevin, Steve, and Eric, and we're going to talk about hockey.

They have a movie out called Super Troopers 2 that you all know about. They've been promoting it subtly for the last week. Here's what to do. Guys, go see Supertrippers 2 420, Friday. Open the Theater. Now let's talk hockey. But you know what, though? There's actually, there's a big crossover.

There is. Super Troopers doing hockey because Roblo plays a retired minor league hockey player, known as the Halifax Explosion. Yes. And he was Youngblood. And he was Youngblood. We talked about that with him. Did you talk about it in the movie?

Is there a Youngblood in joke? No. But there's some references to like, you know, hockey. Let's start with, right, to the movie for a second, because here's the thing. you're taken on Canada in the movie. Yeah. And good for you guys. It's God's work, first of all.

Thank you. But the question is, is that, well, first off, in the comedy world, let's all agree that sometimes stereotypes are difficult to deal with now in 2018. Stereotypes of Canada, chef's kiss. Perfect. Yeah. But never know. Timeless. But here's the nice thing, though, is that we deal with the stereotypes of Canadians.

But then when the Canadians start coming back at us in the movie, it's accuracy. they're making fun of Americans and they're doing it well. I think we didn't do the stereotypical like super likable Canadians. We picked like the gruff Quebec, French speaking Canadians to make fun

that's a better way to do you? Yeah, you don't know, Dudley-Durite type but we went for the, you know, tough mounties. I was on, I wanted to ask you about that though because I think, I think, you know, while Canada is obviously a rich comedy mine, it's been mined a bit. Like you've got your Canadian bacon,

you've got your latter-day Kevin Smith, you've got a lot of things that have been, I mean, fucking South Park? I mean, how do you... Is it okay to traffic in the tropes of Canada? Do you have to find new comedic ground to cover? Well, no, I mean... We've spent a lot of time up in Canada.

I mean, look, we love Canadian people. We love Canada, yeah. They're all the time. We love you. But we've spent a lot of time up there. And it's just, you know, there's differences. And first of all, the French Canadians, I'm just going to come out and say it are the most difficult to deal with.

No, it's true. It's mostly French Canada that we deal with in the movie. Yeah, we have a friend who... has a house right on the Canadian border, the border of the border, five minutes away from the border. And he used to annoy, can I swear? Yeah, absolutely. He used to annoy the shit out of us, how, like, we'd go right over the border to get some putine or some stronger beer or some Cuban cigars. And there are these French-Canadian vendors there, these merchants, who want to make money and support their goddamn families.

And yet they won't speak English to us, even though they know how to do it. Because they're trying to say, fuck you, go away. And it's like, you know what? Sacre Bleu, dude. Better business, come on. So this movie is basically like decades of anger that's built up to the time of you. That you're now going to release upon the world. I'm bubbling over.

But no, we also, I mean, we cast real Canadians so they could have their own fun. Like, they get to poke fun of their own, you know, growing up. They had stories of, you know, things they hated about Canada or loved about Canada. And Will Sassau and Tyler Labine and Emmanuel Shriek here in the movie to bring a uniquely Canadian perspective to it. I was going to say it must have been very hard to find Canadian comedians. There is a short order. Yeah. What?

SETV? Yeah. Not on Toronto, man. We got a lot. Kids in the whole long history. Yeah, oh, God, it's too much. It's too much. Remember being a kid and, like, you'd be watching SNL,

then all of a sudden you find out your favorite cast member is Canadian, and it blows your fucking line. He was an easy one. No one could love hockey that much. He'd be an American. That's that of you, apparently. That's the movie. Movie's going to be great.

Well, let's talk one more thing, because you told me about the crowdfunding part of it, which I didn't realize it before. Yeah, you guys crowdfunded it. Were you close at all to the $25 million dollar plateau? I saw it this morning that was... I would like to know if anyone had thought about that. $25 million and someone in the cast would have impregnated a woman for them.

Like, did you guys all have it planned out? Like, who it would be? Yeah, I would like to... I mean, you could... However they want to do it, if they want to pick a guy, sure. If they want to play a little Russian roulette, and we all put in a little grab bag and turkey baste and see what comes out. Sure.

Popri? Yeah, it could be a combo. Yeah, it could be a combo. You guys really? really do everything together. You're a collaborative group. That's unbelievable. I'd like to know who the closest person in the world was. Like if there was

one person who's like thinking about a little. A little oligarch's daughter was like, hmm. I very much like that farra character. He seems strong. I need the liter of semen. Whoa. Whoa. Some lonely woman's been selling

her macramee on Etsy for the last year, trying to raise enough money. Never got there. It's still open. It's still open. Open. Oh, okay. There you go. Well, there you go. Super, Super, Super free. Ma'am, if you're out there. Or just for fun. Keep at it. Yeah, we'll still do it. By the way, I would like to say one more thing about Canadians.

Please. Oh, God, don't stop. Well, it goes back to the whole hockey thing, is that we've done a bunch of NHL charity stuff. And so, like, we've hung out with a lot of Canadians. The hockey players, they're actually really hysterical people. And, like, one of the reasons why hockey players are my favorite athletes is because they're self-deprecating. They don't take themselves too seriously. They have a good sense of loyalty. to each other, obviously team first, and they're just good all around,

goofy kind of guys. Great guys. So, like, you know, we have a lot of close friends that are Canadians. Isn't that they're... Well, we also name some of those guys after...

That's true. Sure. You know, after hockey players. Yeah, yeah. Podine. One of the Mounties, his last name's Potein. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Combrano? Yeah. Plus, your flick is probably, like, mandatory viewing on the road for those guys, too. It's funny,

because I won't, I won't name names, but one former Tampa Bay lightning player told me the first time he ever got stoned. I have a funny story but he said the first time he got stoned was also the first time he watched Super Troopers and that

the opening scene gave him an anxiety. And this is like a big six foot five defenseman who's like, you know, a hulking guy. That's perfect. I felt the same way actually when I first thought it's first scene. It brought me back to being a kid and being like when you're high and you see any cop and you're just like, oh

this is it. He's somehow knows we got high in your basement, man. Oh, yeah. I actually once sucked on pennies when I got pulled over my cop ones. I did that? I did, yeah. I thought that was for DUI, though. That's what it was. I was getting pulled over for... I had been drinking. I'd come back from a hockey game in Minnesota.

I got pulled over. I was on a date with a girl. I got pulled over, and I just grabbed some pennies. For some reason, I heard that you suck on pennies, it throws off the breathweiser, right? So I'm sucking on these dirty pennies, you know, in front of this girl. I'm trying to impress. This is the greatest visual ever. You throw a bunch of fucking change in your mouth, like their tic tacks. What did you?

I don't think. You must tell you're a dork. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, I didn't think I got any that night. I married that woman. Half hour later, you're going for the kiss. She's like, yeah, you're serious. Yeah, right. He's a cop-up.

All right, now you're a Ranger fan. You're saying before. By the way, I would like to say I'm a fan of yours. I've been reading Puck Daddy for a very long time. Thank you very much. You're welcome. I've watched your films for a long time, too. Let's make out.

Let's make out. What's a penny's your mouth to make out? Let's make out. but yeah I'm a Rangers fan and you're a devil's fan so that's so the love so we will come to blows

because both of our teams are insignificant and shitty now the problem with the you know like the real issue for it I mean we had some great in 94 that area of time I remember that year

no my my therapist says that year never happened it just skips from 93 to 95 in my world but like the other problem I have is that then like the Rangers

who were the worst at putting together new teams, we would take all of your third line and fourth line centers and put them on the top line. Like, we had Scott Gomez and Bobby Haleek, and we spent out the ass for those guys. No fault of their own, they were great third or fourth line players on teams that had great, you know, top two lines, but then the Rangers would, you know, and they would give the Rangers fits when we played them.

So to add insult to injury, it's like we would get those guys, and the devils were just laughing at the Rangers for a year. Like Lou Amarillo was laughing at the Rangers. Yeah. It was a weird stretch where the Rangers were taking people that were relevant five years earlier and then giving them all the money and then hoping that that was going to change things. Yeah. And it got kind of shitty for being a devil's fan because, as you know, our entire existence is based on our hate of the Rangers. To the point where I was at a playoff game this week and they did a bit where they showed, they had it on the Jumotron New York Sports Report and then it was just footage of the Rangers at a charity golf tournament.

Yeah. And like, it's during a Devils playoff game that's not even involving the Rangers. And people are kind of like, devil's fans are like, yeah, fuck charity though, dude. Come on. For cancer. Devil's fans are like, fuck yeah. And then the rest of the hockey world's like, really? Like, this is how cuckled the Rangers still have you even when they're bad.

So it kind of sucked for being a devil's fan for a while because having the Rangers be not on par or not as even above the Devils was kind of like that man without the Joker. Like it felt wrong to not have the Rangers be relevant. So when things kind of evened up in the next decade, I think it felt more. But it's not the other way around, though, right? Because the Rangers have, like, the Islanders. And do you feel the other way around? The Rangers don't give a shit about the doubles. No, we, I mean, they hate it.

It's like, I really feel bad for you. And the other person's, like, I don't even think about you. I don't even know who you are. We're still the Rangers. We're still the Rangers. You know, like, we play in Manhattan at Madison Square Garden. I mean, like, the devils play in the fucking swamp. That's the truth.

The Islanders. When they show pictures of our arena, then the next ad break, they show pictures of the Empire State Building. because no one knows where the fuck Nork is. That's right. It's the worst. That's right. You got the Islanders, I mean, it's pathetic.

Did they move to Brooklyn? They're moving back. They're moving back because they can just get the fuck out. Okay. They play in Nassau Coliseum. It's a high school gymnasium. I actually feel bad for Islanders. Like, I just, I not only hate the Islanders.

I feel badly for, we're friends with Mark Parrish. Just did it, yeah. I'd go to Rangers Islanders games. Like, you go early, you can see them pulling the bleachers out from the laws. It's pathetic. The Flyers, good God. Good God, do I hate the Flyers. And the thing is, I used to date the daughter of a guy who was the CEO of the Flyers.

Oh, yeah? And so, and I always found this interesting. This is in the years when, right when Lindros came over to the Rangers, so they'd roll in a town. I'd go out for drinks with Bobby Clark and Ron Ryan and a bunch of the others guys. And all they would do is grouse about Eric Lindros. It was like, you know, they're these childish. rival reason, but like how that's the one that got away. There's been years

now. They would just talk to me like Lindros this, Lindros that, like, you know, the Bonnie and whatever the dad's name was, like they would talk about the kids. They should talk to him when he was there too. They were like, there was always these stories being floated that like he'd miss a game due to injury and it was like, wow, he's hung over. He's on over. They would always leak that shit to the Philadelphia station.

Well, they would talk about the fact that he didn't travel with the team and how in their day, I mean, look, you're talking Bob Clark about this. He's like, in, you know, in my day, the first Like, we travel together. Do a better imitation of them. Come on. He might be back when I was up in Banffey.

The team traveled together. No, he doesn't speak like that. The funny thing hanging out with those guys, if you get them to laugh really hard, their falsies fly out of their minds. But no, they would talk about how the team traveled together. It's like they would drink together, and they would brawl together,

and they would womanize together. And that was just the bonding. And now you had this one guy who's like, he thinks he's better than everybody else and they were like you know you see that when Scott Stevens knocked him out look and see how many of his teammates are hanging around

he's like they were all at the bench nobody came over to him that's kind of true it is true yeah didn't he just get into the Hall of Fame or something like that didn't someone just have with him he got in the Hall of Fame did you deserve it I mean I feel like well he had that kind of like to put it in baseball terms like he had that Sandy Kofax kind of existence where he didn't have the long work history

but in the in the prime of his career he was demonstrably either the first or second best player. But I get he never won a he never won a cup. He won a cup. He won a MVP. He never won a cup. Yeah, like a Kirby Pucket kind of career where injury kind of derailed what was what would have been a hall fame career. Somebody in that sentence won the world's team.

He did. Right. I mean, are you the sports fans where the guy isn't good until he wins a championship? Like that guy, like that guy, like, no. But I think that that is a part of the parameters of whether you get in the Hall of Fame a lot of times. It is certain, I mean, that's certainly the explanation point on any argument about whether a guy should get in or not.

But like, you got a guy like Don Mattingly, who the Yankees won it the year before he got there and they won it the year after he retired but like I mean what are you going to say I mean Don Manningly is great Well that's like Henry Lunkwis is going to be a hallfamer yeah it's not his fault the team in front of him has just been complete dog shit for a decade and he just carries Watch it watch it watch it's not going to the finals He's kind of giving you a compliment your goalie yeah right he's also the best looking player in the far not even close but see that we talk about this in the podcast all the time is the Alexoveskin problem too like there's a very good chance ovechkin could finish top three in goals all time

and then never win a cup and then we're kind of like rooting for him the wing because we know when he goes to the Hall of thing on top of him getting shit because he's Russian he's going to get shit for never winning a cup and like you'd just like the focus to be on the fact the guy was phenomenal but Lindros isn't even in that I felt like he's not

in that category but what he did though is what a lot of hockey hallfamers do which is you know he retired and everybody was like this guy's a shit and then he kissed the right asses for about a decade and he was on good behavior and didn't join a concussion lawsuit that the NHL was facing and shit like that and then like got into the Hall of Fame based on that

based on being a nicer dude than he was when he was playing. They like contrite people. They like people who are who changed the errors of their ways and they were assholes when they were playing. Like imagine in movies if like the Oscars weren't given to the best movies to those of the people that kissed the most. Wait, is it how it works?

Yes, it is. If you go to the Hall of Fame, I haven't been up there. Is Lindros's display? Like, it's certainly not, I bet like you've got like the Gretzky and the Messier display. Yeah, we're just in the men's room. There's over, yeah, you got the smaller displays where it's like, you know, like a... It's actually an etching of Scott Stephen's shoulder impacting his head.

It's really well done, very artistic. The angles are good. As a Ranger fan, do you think that they're going to go into a period of rebuilding now? Do you think that's horseshit and they're just going to start buying great players again? If I am using history as my guide here, I'm going to say that they're going to fuck it all up. Because the Rangers, and it's a problem with the Garden in general, the Knicks do it, too. is they don't rebuild properly because they're like, we got to put the butts in the seats.

We've got to put the butts in the seats. Which makes no sense because people are going to come anyway. Like you're going to have 19,000 people in that building, whether you're terrible or whether you're the best team in the league, right? Not necessarily. You know, there was that period of time when they were... Like late 90s? When they had that, like, decade-long stretch of missing the playoffs.

There were empty seats at the garden. Except for you. You had your season tickets then. That's how I got them. That's how I got them. A man of opportunity. Yeah. Yeah, well, no, because one of the other guys was Mark Piazza, who had been with the Flyers, who then was with the Rangers, and I met him through these guys, and he was like,

the Garden claims that these games are sold out, but they're not. Oh, yeah, they never were. They would always announce whatever it was, but it was really, like, 2000 less. I never understood my teams did that. Why would you want to tell people there's no tickets available when there's tickets available? To make it look like there's demand, man. The NHL does a thing where they count tickets distributed, right? So if you're like the Florida Panthers and your paper in your arena,

Florida Panthers at one point in their history had a deal where if you had a, this is no joke, if you had a valid Florida license, driver's license and bought it to the game, they'd give you a ticket for free. That's it's it. And so, and you just get in. It's like, it's like, it's like Florida. Yeah, but it's like single A baseball shit right there. Yeah, but we know this from like doing live stand-up comedy shows. Like sometimes if tickets are light, they'll give the tickets away for free because you're going to come in and you're going to eat and drink. Right.

To drink minimum. Yeah. Yeah. And, and our fans are. especially like they drink a lot so they get all that money I mean hockey fans they drink they certainly do they know how yeah and they throw their booze too they buy they buy beer to throw I noticed at the devil's game the other night most arenas cut off the sales after the second period the devils are still like

the lines are short here in a third period it was very strange I was working Vegas do they just serve booze until like quadruple overtime they have to right like there's no laws there what did you guys think of Vegas getting a hockey team by the way. I honestly just, like, I heard like two weeks ago the name Golden Knights. Yeah.

And I was like, wait, is that a that's a fucking hockey team? That guy, I had no idea. Where did they come from? They're an expansion team. They just created a whole... They didn't move somebody. Dude in Vegas. By the way, the knights

are because the dude who bought, who paid to get a team. Paid 500 million dollars to get the team. It sounds like a high school football team. It does. Very much so. he's army obsessed and he wanted to call the team the Knights after like the Army mascot. Okay.

And he's actually now getting sued by the Army who are like, wait a fucking second. You can't just take the name. And you literally said you took the name because you're an Army guy. Sure. We can get money from you. So that's where the Knights came from.

And the NHL stepped in and said, yeah, it's a team in Vegas but we don't want you to call it like the Black Jacks or anything. But there's so many better names for Vegas. The strippers and the East is the strippers. The Spearmint Rhinos. Wow. The Spirman Rhinos would be a great.

That would be a great name. That would be a great name. The Los Vegas is a team. What did you think of Vegas as a team? I mean, it felt unnecessary to me. I mean, I don't know why they felt that had to have it. Because you're from Minnesota. Of course it felt unnecessary.

Right. In that desert. The desert teams to me always are strange. Yeah, like Arizona. In Arizona. Florida needs two teams. It was weird. I mean, we lost the North Stars to Dallas.

which I thought was weird I was embarrassed for you guys when that happened and I mean that in the most respectful way like the Minnesota North Stars are like I mean that team leaving Minnesota like that actually hurt me as a hockey fan and then to go to Dallas

and then Dallas should have called them the lone stars that was just that would be way bad yeah oh completely agree on that yeah I mean I feel like I was trying to explain to you for but I think we learned our lesson because now when you go to a wild game they're always sold out and they're packed like our fans I think learned the lesson

that we don't want to lose a team again but I was saying when I was growing up in Minnesota high school hockey was so huge. Like, if you go to high school hockey tournament, they're selling out the Excel Center. Right. I mean, there's 20,000 people go to watch a high school hockey tournament, and there's A and AAA, I mean, there's a single A and

AA, and they're both sold out. And so, is that less of an indication? Because I think people see that, and they're like, oh, well, they'll just go to see all the hockey. But the way you were saying it is, like, there are other options. You don't necessarily have to go see the wild to get your hockey fix. Well, growing up, like, to go to a North Stars game, you're spending

a lot of money, a hundred bucks, you know, after you buy, You have to take your kids and you're buying food and transportation. Oh, that walleye is expensive. The walleye charge $50 for a little basket of walleye there. It's a waffle fries, you know, it really adds up. Oh, Ufta, that's expensive. You know, Broughton and Dino Cicarelli are great and all that and stuff like that. But he's done a box for some walleye.

I can go out in the pond over here and pull it on myself. Yeah, I want to see Dino Cicerelli. I'll just watch them come out and pick up the newspaper off his front lawn in the nude. He's got his bits hanging out. when he's going to get the Star Tribune in the morning. It's 30 degrees below zero. Shut the front door. You know that Dino Cicerelli used to go out and get his paper in the nude, right?

We do now. Well, he did once, but, yeah. Where was you playing when he did that? Minnesota. From Minnesota? He walked out to get the newspaper, I think, in the nude, and he got a lot of flack for it. He got a lot of media press.

Was he originally a North Star before the Red Wings? I thought he retired with the Red Wings. He was a North Star? Then he was a Capitol. Yeah. I think he was a Capitol after the... the North Stars, then he went to the Red Wings maybe after that? How could anybody have traded away Dino Ciceroa? That dude

was awesome. Great name, too. Dino Ciceroa. He was great. He was on that team that lost of the Penguins in the Cuffana, right? Is he still there in the 90s or no? I forget his timeline. He was redwings in the 90s. Yeah. Canadian or American? Canadian? American, I think. Dino does sound like a good American. It is a good

name. We should know that. He was, but he's the kind, like, that's the perfect like throwback hockey player, right? Like, a win at all cost, spear you in the balls, rip out your fucking eyeballs kind of player who could also score like 500 goals in his career. Oh, he was awesome. Yeah, he was awesome. And he was just park right in front of the net and just

tap. He had great hands. Hockey back then or hockey now? What do you like better? You like the old time beat the shit out of each other with sticks all day or this new faster hockey? Faster hockey, huh? I don't know. I like it both. I'm old school. You like the old fights? My first game was it was a, it was Rangers

Bruins and I was a kid. This is like the the Nick Fittier, Bubba Beck, Ron Dugay, John Davidson. Well, Flo, Dugay. Flo, gay. You had the same haircut until, like, two years ago. Oh, he's shaped?

You finally, like, shortened it up. But, you know, I saw him in person, and it's like, he's a male model. Oh, yeah, he's a good-looking man. To this day? On TV. Well, he looks like Bon Jovi in his prime. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, Dino Cicarelli, good Canadian boy, Sarnia, Ontario, Canada, born February 8, 1960.

I just to stand up there a couple weeks ago, Sarnia. Sarnia. With a sting. Small town. Hey, you did an appearance in uniform, I believe, at the Wild Gear. Yeah, recently. To do the little let's play hockey thing? I did let's play hockey.

What's that? What was that like? Oh, it was a blast. I mean, there was the largest attendance of the season. For you, obviously. Obviously, right. They knew you'd be there? They didn't know I was coming, but I got a lot.

Dude, sell it. Own it. Oh, yeah, totally. They heard I was coming, and they knew Super Troopers 2's opening on 420. And so, hey, they said, hey, got to go out there. Hey, yeah. Do you get to, like, have a little access to the wild with the celebrity you have? Well, I'm friends with some of guys on the team.

You get in the clubhouse or whatever? Yeah. I go in the clubhouse sometimes and hang out. Did you give you a sweater? Well, yeah, I got about three of those. I used to get the name on the back, but then I think it's weird going to a game with a sweat with your name on the back. It is.

Then I started asking for players' numbers, so we're friends with Matt Cullen. So I got a Cullen jersey their day. And then I get there, and I'm also friends with his wife and his brothers. And I come out, and they walked out, and they had a suite. So then I walked in, and I hung out with Joe and Mark. Were you surprised Colin hung around for another year? Like, after winning the cup with the Penguins, it seemed like the perfect time to kind of like shit can't it and go go to the cabin after.

Yeah, I thought he's going to retire. He's made enough. He's one, two, Stanley, three Stanley Cup. I love his story. I love his story. And knowing him personally, it's... Tell it to me. I don't know.

I don't know. Tell me his story. Well, he's, you know, he's... What is he now? 41? Yeah. And, you know, I think he's been kind of a perpetual third liner. But you need that to win a Stanley Cup.

Like, you can't just do it on two top lines. Like, you need a third and a fourth line. And so, you know, like to me often, I mean, it was the way with the 94 Rangers. Like, if your third and fourth lines are clicking, you're going to win. Yeah. And that's because they're going to get you the unexpected goals. They're going to do, you know, the top two lines are going to match up.

They'll score their goals and everything. But Colin is the perfect guy for that. And so it's like, I just think it's amazing that he's come on so strong later in his career. Is he now first, second line guy or no? No. Still third line guy. But he gets traded around. And he's like these guys like Halikin Gomez, like you put him on a third line.

kind of left unchecked against a team that doesn't have a comparable third or fourth line, and he's going to go crazy on you. And a lot of times, especially with the Penguins, he would get like three points in like a game six or something like that, just when you need a guy like that to step up. And he was always a guy that, like, when he leaves a team, you're like, then the reaction's always like, well, if we only had a Matt Cullen type. Right, right.

Like, you had a fucking Matt Cullen type, and he's not here anymore. He played through a broken foot. I mean, he's great with face-offs. He's going to power play. He grinds. And all he's got to do now is fill the roll. of Zach Parisei and Ryan Stewart. Oh my God, now he says step up, yeah, the first line says.

Just win three straight games now. Does it make you mental that you are from the state of hockey but have never had a cup win? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I'm just, I am literally just reciting facts. Now ask him about the Super Bowl. Ask him about the Super Bowl. Now.

Are you upset? Even four, two rolls and never won? Oh, shit. I did not throw my voice. That wasn't even me. It can be tough being Minnesota sports Are you going to take this shit? I don't know what else

I mean it would go crazy if you guys want to cup with it. Or the NFC title game this year Oh shit! I didn't realize Minnesota's like Buffalo, but like they really are. They really are. This whole thing would sting a lot more if they didn't have a story at NBA. Oh shit.

It's crazy. I've hung out with the cup a lot because everyone's from Minnesota but our teen never wins it. So it always comes back to the state in the summertime and it's passed around. But you just watch it go by, say. No, he does the bad luck thing. He drinks out of it.

That's true. Oh, that's the reason why. He hasn't earned it yet. Right. I have you touched the cup? I've drank out of the cup. Oh, they're mad. This actually explains a lot.

So the Rangers haven't won a cup in 25 years. You touched it up. The last time he drank out of the cup was in 1994. It was the night after the Rangers. Who's your hockey team, by the way? I was a Devils fan growing up. No, he just hates hockey. No, I just watch hockey.

You know what hockey? I love hockey, but I hate the NHL is basically. how I feel. He should come to Minnesota watch high school hockey. Did you go to scores with them, the Rangers? No, no, I didn't go to scores with them. It was the night after they won the cup.

I was celebrating with a buddy of mine, and we went by a place called the Raccoon Lodge on the Upper West Side, 84th in Amsterdam. Like four in the morning. We were just trolling to find out one last bar, and that place was packed. And we went up to the window, and we were like, God, it looks like the cup on the phone.

But there's no way it's the cup, right? But, you know, and so we went in and was like, holy shit, it's the cup, and that's Brian Leach, because he lived right down the street. And I guess it's a Kahn Smythe winner, he got it, you know, he got it first. And so, I was drunk enough to just go right up to him. I was like, I was like, dude, could you have possibly

waited any longer to shoot that fucking puck in the net in game seven? Because he just was holding it. He was a wide over night. I'm like, shoot the puck! And he was like, yeah, I kind of waited a long time on that. If I had any idea when I was a kid, what kind of skeleton key of the Stanley Cup is

as far as accessing anything in the world once you win it. I really would have worked out more. I definitely would have been a better skater and worked out more to try to achieve that in life. Because once you had that cup. For 24 hours. Every club. No matter where you want to go, you're getting in with the cup.

You broke it, though, didn't you? Well, so he's like, we had a couple other, like, we have some friends in common. We were just chatting, and he's like, I think, I was like, can I just touch the cup? I was like, can I kiss the cup? He's like, I got a better idea. I think you should hoist it over your head. I was like, oh, fuck, yeah. And so I lifted it up

And I didn't know like the base comes off But like it broke in my hands And like he's like don't worry about it The base comes off because they Replace the rings you know And he's like and I was like okay fuck I'm tired of he's like I got a really good idea I think you should drink out of it

And I was like are you sure really I should And he's already pouring his beer Into the top of the cup And I guess until that moment Nobody had like approached him Like they were surrounding him But like they were too intimidated And so like you just pushed through the pile

I just went right up to him Like when I hosted above my head everybody cheered and then when he held it while I drank from it and uh which was pretty god damn cool yeah this is the four cell phones though that's the pro well yeah pre cell phone yeah for me and it yeah it's funny because like then i had a buddy of mine come down and like we didn't have cameras or anything like that so there's no evidence of this anywhere this is like being a kid and meeting the pilot and the pilot says billy wouldn't you like to fly the player for a while that's right that's exactly right and then it was funny because like we were watching the ticker tape parade on tv the next

day and I can't remember who it was, it might have been John Davidson who was like, I don't know, maybe it wasn't him, but they were like, you know, not everybody gets to raise that Stanley Cup. I was like, I have a motherfucker. That was the most, I mean, we talked about the Rangers Devils thing before. Like, that was the moment when I realized that where my place in the world was when the Rangers win the Cup and it's like they just got back from Normandy. Like, there's a giant parade and there's people throwing confetti from buildings and shit. The Devils win the Cup. They have a parade in their parking lot. at the Madalands Arena in East Rutherford, New Jersey. It's like, the Rangers parade is just like giant blaring bands and trumpets and shit. And then the Devil's parade is like a noise maker. That's okay. You got to experience it more, though, right?

Yeah, it was a more personal thing because there were so many fewer people there. But you're a hockey fan. Are you capable of being objective about the Rangers for one second? Yes. Oh, I've learned to be more objective. And in actuality, I've been asked about this a lot. Like, of course I grew up hitting the Rangers. but honestly like you,

probably hate the Flyers more than the Rangers these days. Oh, I hate the Flyers. Yeah. Hate them. And the Islander... Anyway, so like... I can't wait to hear this. I can't wait to hear you not be objective

after what he asks here. I got it. Well, 94. Yeah. Is one of... Probably one of the most incredible Stanley Cup runs. There we go. In that we dispatched our main enemy,

the Islanders, in a sweep. Mm-hmm. We swept him. And I believe in that series, correctly from wrong. Run Hextall, goalie for the Islanders in that series? Yeah, he got like seven goals.

So in a way, you dispatched the Islanders and one of your most hated Flyers rivals in the same fashion. It was great because I, the joke then was, and I got a bunch of people on this, I was like, holy shit, did you hear? I mean, this is an old hockey joke, but I was like, do you hear Ron Hextall killed himself

last night? And my friends were like, no way. I was like, yeah, he threw himself in front of a train, but it went right through his legs. And then we'd laugh about it. Okay, but... You know that we were talking about 25 years ago right now?

You know we're talking about it. You weren't even born. 24 years. The series against the devils was an amazing series, a seven-game series, and then the one against the Canucks was another game seven-type situation. I mean, that was a Stanley Cup that was earned.

It's probably the most glorious thing. No one's ever done it since. Not like that. 24 years. I'm at ESPN now, and we did a thing where we ranked the greatest hockey years of all time. And 94 is the greatest hockey year of all time. Thank you.

As much as it pained me to say it because you had that, but you also in 94 had the Olympics that year where Peter Forsberg scored the shootout goal to win the gold medal against Canada, beating Canada. So, again, there you go. So those two things happening in the same. So there has never been a better hockey year than 1994? Since then? Since then? You're saying? When you're flipping him the birth, the best.

That's the best year ever. It's never like, like, it's not 2005 because we're too old for it to be bad. You have to remember that the Rangers hadn't won a cup. Oh, I know that. In fifth, no. But so what? In 54 years. I know that.

The length of time between them winning cups. So that's won every 54. That's going to be a while. So there again. It's halfway there again. It's 2048. I've had this in my mind for a long time as a devil's fed. 2048 will be the next Rangers' cup.

Listen, maybe. Maybe. They're rebuilding process is shit. It pisses me off. It's like, I look at the goddamn penguins. I think God did, but they've had it a couple times. Like, for the Mew and Yager, and now it's like, because of the strike, they wind up getting Crosby and then Malkin. Yeah.

And now it's, I mean, they've rebuilt properly. And it's like, and you have a great team for 20 years. I give them so much credit because they did during the salary cap era. One of their teams are, like, trading away their big pieces because they can't afford to figure out how to keep them. Like, they're really well managed. And fucking Sid's great. Like, Sid's the best example I could think of all time. any player that I really didn't like

when he was younger because he was a whiner and I was more of an Ovechkin guy but like over time it's not even like a begrudging respect. It's like a legitimate respect for how incredible this guy is and how fucking hard he worked at becoming that good. Do you like Crosby? I love Crosby but there's also stacked some really great players around him.

I mean they got Coonitz, Kessel, I mean, Gensel like Malian. Malcon? Obviously Melton. Latang and yeah. I mean they got some incredible players. You watch that every line is just Yeah, but that's what happens when you have a team that is rock solid like that. The Red Wings had it too for a long time. Other players want to come and play for that team and they'll take a pay cut to pay for that team.

And they'll work their asses off for that guy because the Red Wings, it was the same thing with like Eiserman, right? Like, Eisenman sets the tone. You all want a bust ass to play as well as the captain does in Pittsburgh. It's like the tide rises to Crosby. Like he demands so much from his teammates that they all seem to... Does he? I feel like I don't you hate on Sidney Crosby here. No, the whole... He's just... I think you mean Cindy Crosby. Oh, no. Oh, what's up?

Here we go. What's up? The greatest Philadelphia fan sign ever was simply a picture of Sidney Crosby on a big orange sign and an equal sign and then a picture of a cat next to it. Just Crosby is a pussy. I like it. Yeah. We're going way back. Let's just talk about Dave Schultz, right?

Oh, great hockey year, 1978. I got a great one. I got a great one. I mean, hold a second. You're a sports historian. I know. What's happening here? I think you're trapped in the past.

I think you're trapped in the last year your team won the cut. Of course I am. But I still, I'm also critical of their rebuilding process. Sure. Which I do. What are you showing these guys? No, I couldn't find me drinking on a Stanley Cup because I had transferred the pictures to my computer. But on my phone, I found this great picture where Lemmy and I were one night.

We played in a charity golf tournament. Colton Or. Oh, yeah. Oh, is that Colnor? Yeah. He was a middle knuckle. So Lemmy and I have had a tradition that's been going back for a while. We've known a church since we were 19 years old.

That's a hand that punch his face. And Lemmy and I used to like to play this game where we'd have a couple adult pops and then we'd punch each other in the face. Yeah. Of course, the whole game we all play. You know that game, right? By the way, I took that picture. Yeah, I took that picture. Let me take this photograph.

And so it's a picture of Colton or punching me in the face. For reals. I'm getting knocked out of the frame and he has a gigantic smile on his face. And is that injury on his knuckle from your face? Do you know a story about that? No. He had gotten so many fights he broke his hand that one team. thought that he had an implant or something or a metal implant in his hand.

They had him x-ray it. And when he got the x-ray, he gave the finger. By the way, so this is what I love about hockey. Like, I was talking about, you know, Ron Ryan. He had a great thing, like the old-time hockey. When he was in minors, he got a fight with a guy, and the guy bit off his finger. Oh, my God.

And he had to have a reattached, and he almost lost it. But he was able to keep playing after that. So he was lucky because the finger fell on the other. ice and it was you know but like many years later uh his wife was a real estate agent in in massachusetts and we she would show off their house uh to you know prospective buyers and uh this couple came up to the front door and the door opened you know and the the couple was there and ron ryan came to the front and it was the guy and apparently right then and there like that ron rind just went and like and got the guy and just started beating the shadow and like 25 years later hockey rivalries

That's great. So we were at a charity event and we used to play this game, punch me in the face. Oh, yeah, sorry. So then we went out, we played golf that day, and you have a couple of adult pops when you're playing that round. We get back that night, and we start explaining to Colton that we used to love to play this game.

And then I got the idea. Why was you telling him that? Well, I wanted to know what it was like to get punched by an HL enforcer. Yeah, of course. I wanted to know what it would feel like to get punched by an enforcer. And so I kept asking him, and he politely said, no, he would, you know, turn me down every time. He didn't want to hurt him.

He didn't want to hurt me. But then finally, like, I had to instigate until finally he punched me the face. Yeah. And by the way, you can't see it in this frame, but Eric has a boner in this picture. So how did it feel after you got punched in the face by an NHL and forces? How did it feel different than being punched in the face by a non-professional? Obviously, it took it easy on me, but I enjoyed taking it. Yeah, that was a little tap he gave you and it knocked your face up.

I'm flying out of frame. I'm flying out of frame. It's expensive. It should be a photojournalist. Right, thank you. I got smiling his face up. Look at that. That's framed. Well, you want to, you know, I said, are you going to punch them with your right or your left? You want to get the angle so that you can get the head snap towards the camera, which is, you know, what I did there.

Yeah. I got double punched by Dale Purenton and Steve McKenna. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I saw those guys in a bar. They were more than happy to punch me. And you requested the punch? Yeah. I saw two guys in a bar and I got punched.

There could be a lot of mileage between those two incidences, you know. Yeah. You know, they're responsible about it. They're like, we could kill you. You really want us to punch you if we could kill you. I'm like, I don't really want you to punch me in the face, just to be clear here. I'd like you to give me a little tap in the face. Who's the most famous person to punch you in the face?

Well, actually, in the same thing, Sean Paudine chased me around a parking lot. He wanted to sexually assault. That's what he wanted to. He wanted to make love to me. And he likes to get naked also. Well, only when he's around just his close friends, Podeon will take his clothes off. Hockey players love getting naked. Yeah, and he chased me around the parking lot of some bar.

And I ran out of my shoes. I was running so fast. I've never seen you run so fast. I try to get away from him. You're not typically, right, didn't you? Yeah, I ran around the part of the line, then down the road, and he never caught me. And then I was sitting shotgun in, like, the party bus, and he sat in my lap naked and passed out. But this is the thing I do like about, you know, we go to these hockey charities.

You know, it's like they got the kids there. It's fantastic, you know, and these guys are like so incredibly generous, and the kids look up to these guys so much. And on the final night, when the charity's over, then it's like, now we're going to blow it out, hockey style. That's from Rick. Like that? When they rip your shirts off? Yeah. And then they tell you, like, wear a crappy shirt, because we're going to just tear it off you the second you walk in.

You walk in, they tear your shirt off your body, and you're like, all right, so it's just a bunch of dudes with shirts off. And they're girls there, too. And it's like, it's like old-time, good-natured partying. They just want to get drunk. That's the thing. It's the best. That's why All-Star weekends a joy,

because they all get there on the Friday and they all talk to the media. Then Saturday's the skills competition, and they kind of give a shit about that because they want to beat their buddy and the hardest shot or whatever. Then the Sunday comes and it's the All-Star game

and they're all fucking shit-hammered. They don't even know. They're hungover. You got guys that are bad. There was a very famous thing of Matthew Shane, who's on Ottawa now, getting caught on audio during the All-Star game being like,

oh, too much vodka last night. Dude, I'm so hung away. He is the best. Those guys are the best. All right, we have a few more minutes. I wanted to ask you about pop culture and your impact on it. Is there something that you guys have done and contributed to pop culture that you're most proudest of it having been consumed and regurgitated by all the people that are in the broken lizard cult? I like the Miao game is something that we've seen a ton of professional athletes do.

During interviews. Yeah. Yeah. Was Eric Deku or Thomas Deku from the Atlanta Falcons? did one on ESPN. Like, I don't know how many meows he got off, but he got off a ton of them. We've seen some baseball players do it.

We've seen soldiers do it, you know. Hockey players. Yeah, hockey players. It's always funny when you see those guys in those interviews. And then the interviewer, you try to figure out the interview knows what they're doing. And a lot of times they don't or whatever. What's the context of the soldiers doing? Like, get on the ground, write me out.

How does that one work? We got a YouTube video. Somebody sent to us, and it was, you'd probably find on YouTube, but it was an Iraqi checkpoint. and they were playing the meow game on people who were coming through the Iraqi jackpoint and they were doing it. Just asking for IDs.

The problem was that the people they were doing it who don't speak English. So the joke is lost on those people, but it was pretty surreal to watch that video of these guys in Iraq playing the meow game. It's ridiculous. Yeah, so I mean, that's a big one that we've seen. When you talk about consumption and regurgitation,

I think about chugging maple syrup, which is one I'm not necessarily proud of bringing into the American culture, I guess in the pop culture of anywhere. You like giving people massive blowouts? Yeah, massive diabetic coma. I always think of the boot scene in Beer Fest. Yeah, the Das Boot.

The turning of the boot. Yeah, that... When you chug a beer, it's all about the angles. And I think about that. Not that I chug beer all the time now. And that's the great thing about the flicks you guys do is that when you make a Dasput reference and then somebody at the table you're at fucking

loses it, you're like, all right, that's a guy can get with. That's someone who's in the cult understands exactly what wavelength that I'm working on here. And it's the greatest shorthand ever. Like when you find someone else into Super Troopers or into Beer Fest or any of those flicks. And there were those great moments also. Like we we become kind of friendly

with Quentin Tarantino. And so he made Inglorious Bastards. And he had showed, he asked for a print of Beer Fest. He showed the print of Beer Fest who was cast and crew before he shot. And then in the scene, in the cellar, the cellar bar, they have that showdown. And one of the

guys comes up and he's drinking a beer boot and he told us that he did that that was a homage to beer fest and the guy who was coming up drinking a beer a beer boot is great yeah it's awesome

yeah we found that out the hard way yeah we were discovered that yeah Eric and I waited tables together and there was one night we were at this bar with the whole the crew from the kitchen

and there was this glass boot up there we'd never really seen them before and we tried to we filled out we try to drink out of it and that bubble would just you know explode in our faces And so then the head chef showed up. And we bet him that he couldn't finish.

He was like, oh, I could totally drink all the beer in that boot. We were like, no, you couldn't. He's like, yeah, I can drink any amount of beer. We made him bet we got all the waiters, everyone put in all their money. There's a big pile of money on the bar. And we even cheated. When he went to the bed, he's like, let me go to the bathroom. I just clear myself out.

I got to go to the bathroom. We're pouring more beer on top of it. Like, we could feel like two more cans of beer in there. And he came out and he chugged it. And then at the very end, he turned the boot and just dissolve that. bubble and he killed the thing and we all lost all our money. And you cried. You guys were crying. It was upsetting. Tell me if I had this memory is correct

for me, I remember. I feel like we discovered the boot though. Steve and I were waiting tables and we did a lunch shift and no one was in the restaurant so the manager released us. We made no money and we went to the bar around the corner to do some day drinking. Richters, right? And we walked in the middle of the afternoon. There's nothing about some old chaps that were hanging out the bar doing some day drinking. And they had this

boot on the bar. Like a boot, right? Yeah. And they were doing this game that was over in the corner and us two young guys in our early 20s sat down and we were like hey what are you guys doing and they're like oh we're playing a game you go i just want to play and we're like okay and they said well you have to throw your money in and we had barely made any of that money on the lunch shift and they said you have to drink this but you can ever let it not touch your lips but you have try to finish it and if you finish it you can take this money in the bar and we're like oh

we're just out of college and we're like we got this and then we went over and we started drinking it and the bubble splashes in the face and that we took it off our lips And everyone in the bar were laughed in our faces and they took our money. Yeah. But then we did. We stayed there all the rest of the day. And then we tried to do that to Dave. We tried to do that to chef.

Yeah. And he took our money again. You paid it forward. Yeah, we did. Losers. That's awesome. But I think we're up against it for you, boys. You got some other shit to do today.

I want to get to the Patreon. There's a couple of questions. Oh, there's some questions to ask you from our listeners. Yeah, I just wanted to get these out for you guys. One of them was, like, what's the thing that you get referenced to most to your faces? Like when you go on the street, is it the meow game? People walk up to you and just say meow.

The meow, I mean, the meow is one for sure. Each of us has, each of us has lines that are shouted to us at random by people. A lot of people, like, from Super Troves, they're like, you boys like Mexico? That's the one they want to hear. I get called chicken fucker a lot. People want to talk about shenanigans, leader of cola. You get all those kind of things. That's good when you're walking with your family to someone.

Yeah, hey, chicken fucker. Well, the funny thing is. I get bear fucker. Yeah. His dad is, his parents are the chicken fuckers. In the movie, it was my parents, and I said, I say chicken fucker, too. And so, like, but his dad's like a gentleman. His dad's a judge.

He's a judge, yeah. And to his chagrin, he's like, that's the thing that people are going to remember the most by, and I don't like that. And weren't you, like, guys at a restaurant, and, like, you were trying to talk him off that ledge a little bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were doing that, and, you know, because he spent 32 years as a judge, so that's what he thinks he should be known as. And someone came up to the table and said, hey, you're the chicken fucker. You're like, oh, boy. When you walk out of the restaurant, they're like, see you later, chicken butter.

And my dad's like, oh, come on. That's nice. I get, like, you know, from beer fats, you get like, I have the Jew, and I'll show you how you had to chug a beer motherfucker. People shout this stuff at you from, like, passing cards. Yeah. Stephen Maggiol wants to know, how different is it writing crude comedy in 2018 compared to 2001? Like, yeah, what do you guys think about all the looking back on older stuff and seeing the problematic nature of a joke or a character? Do you ever look back on the stuff you guys did in the past and say,

oh, maybe that was not something we could do today. I don't know. I mean, we've never tried to be mean-spirited about anything. Right, like you guys are all puns and dad jokes and fair-fucking. Yeah, that's just, that's the timeless. I think it's sometimes, like, reviewers focus, they always, the first thing they say is like the crude, crass stuff where we're like, there's so much more to it than that.

But we try to be good guys. I was at a steakhouse, and Mel Brooks was at the next booth. And I had a chance to eaves drop on them, which I was doing blatantly. And he was telling the people that he was eating with that he could never have made blazing saddles now. Yeah, people always say that, yeah. And that's just it. It's like, I think as liberal as we are becoming and as open and I think as much as we are evolving,

I think there's also a tightness that's happening. And so, you know, I think there's less and less that you can do. But I don't know that we ever run into that issue because like we... It's all about what makes each of us laugh. with each other, you know, you make the other four guys laugh can get in the movie. So we never get that worried about the PC element stuff, I think. Yeah, but there's, if something, if any one of us

find something offensive, we're just not going to put it in there. It's queer because I feel like you guys get roped into other stuff that does traffic in that just because you're a comedy troupe. Yeah. And then, like, that's just the label you have to carry, even if the movies don't speak to that. It's like, you have to battle back against the stereotype that you're not even

a part of. No, I mean, people I said, like, if you like, I read one reviews, like, if you like shit jokes, then you'll love this movie and I'm like, actually we've never done a shit joke. And if you look at Slumdog Millionaire, one best picture, the kid falls into an outhouse, into the basin of an outhouse, and comes out covered in shit.

And the critics are like, oh, that's adorable. Oh, what a funny joke. He fell into the shit bucket of an outhouse. Let's give it an Oscar. We've never done that. But fart jokes are always funny. Well, and we've got great fart jokes in this new movie. You like fart jokes. Come to these Super Troopers, too. I was saying him before you guys came in that the joke

that for some reason stays with me the most from Super Troopers is the biker, biker joke? Yeah. Right. That kills me. It's great. And that was like just a thing that happened in the wardrobe trailer. It was like the wardrobe woman wasn't sure what we were going for. She had, really? Yeah, so she had both costumes.

And so those guys were like, yeah, oh, that's a great thing. Let's just do it. Let's just put it in. And so they put that joker on the spot, which is great. Oh, bikers. I think, yeah, no, it's a huge laugh, and unexpected laugh, too. Like, I mean, it's one of the biggest laughs in the screenings. I think for us it's like we grew up

with such amazing eclectic comic films you know I mean we had the Monty Python we had John Lannis you know the Blues Brothers Caddyshack the animal you know the National Lampoon stuff yeah Chevy Chase Cheech and Chong Steve Martin I mean there were so many different types of

of comedy when we were when we were kids that it's like we just like it all yeah all right I was also told by mutual friend that we have to mention Chew in it which oh yeah tell us tell the Pucks you've listed You may not know what chewing it is, what it is. We do a weekly podcast.

Steve and I do it. We've been doing it for a couple years now. And basically it's just us kind of hanging out. We have a lot of people that we made movies with. We talk about movies, talk about TV. We have the broken lizard boys on. Yeah, we have the broken lizard boys on all the time. And we just kind of shoot the shit.

We chew it. It's chewing it with Kevin and Steve. And it's chewing it podcast.com. How did we decide on the billing for the podcast? Oh, man. That's a can of worms. Alphabetical. Alphabetical.

Yeah. It's alphabetical. It annoys me because Kevin comes before Steve and Heffernan comes before Lemmy in the alphabet. That's alphabetical. But I think, you know, the name Kevin Heffernan is much more clunky. And so, like, Steve Lemmy is a good, you get the nice one out of the way. Right. But Steve and Kevin and Steve, though, like the N is naturally at the end of Kevin. Yeah. It's like Kevin and Steve. Great point. It kind of just flows a little bit better than a little. Well, if you speak like a monkey. We're already branded, bro If you don't slur through that

It's actually It's redundant Central New Jersey Not a place of simians My friend Let you know that I speak to Queens English There you go

You're right Stephen Kevin sounds like a full name Like Stephen Kevin Kevin Kevin Yeah And lemmy Heffern Could be a call to action Like lemmy heffern

Could be a call to action Like lemmy heffin Yeah sure In a good way In a good way But otherwise it's Kevin and Steve That's a little redundant

Lemmy Heffernan's like a thing where it's like you get caught banging a cow. Like, oh, I got, I got caught doing a Lemmy Heffernan. Yeah. Yeah. Like what is. Heffernan. Heffernan. A glass bottom boat.

A lemmy heffernon. Where can the good people who will obviously be seeing Super Troopers to this weekend also find you in the world of social media and such? Do you want anyone to know that? Yeah. On Twitter, I'm Steve Lemmy. Interesting. I just use. And it was difficult.

And Instagram, I'm Steve underscore Lemmy. Oh. But that's why I've. I've got all the photos from our press store that we've done, all the superchurch and stuff. Yeah, you guys have been around. Yeah, we've been documenting it for sure. Yeah, thank you for being podcast friendly as well.

Sure, I love it. We're from that world. This is a lot of fun. I'm at Eric Solhansky, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all the above. It's hard to spell, so just Google it. Google it, bro. It means steel hand. Eric's Steelhand.

The Steelhand. Swedish. Or is it? I had some steel hand out. It's a Swedish. I'm at Heffern and Rules on Twitter. I'd have for rules. Is that like you ruling or just do your rules?

It's kind of like, no, it's like Java rules, you know what I'm saying? Jabba the Hut. What's up? What's up, exactly. Jabba Chamberlain. Oh. Remember him? Yeah.

Are you Yankee Fest? I am. I'm going to, I'm a Mets fan. Okay. I'm sorry. I know. I'm going to the stadium on Sunday. Do you, have you been to both Yankee stadiums?

I have. You are? I've definitely pretty older one just because I'm just more familiar with it. I've been to the new one probably four or five times. and I don't know it feels a little more sterile than the old one

As a Yankee fan Is it weird seeing Arod date J-Lo? No I love it I say go for it A-rod Get some of it

Get in there A-Rod Is it weird To see Derek Jeter destroy a team in Florida The way he has I think you gotta give Derek a little time

I think you gotta give him a little time The guy's a genius And You know I think he's gonna get there for them And he gave us Gene Carl or Stan

Right Oh that's also true He's very charitable. Thanks, sure. Oh yeah, were you guys at war last year? They're in the fake playoff game that baseball has now? No, he just gives up. He just gives up.

The twins can't beat the Yankees. Oh, yeah, he wouldn't even watch it. The twins don't beat the Yankees in the playoffs, never have. It was three-nothing twins like a minute in, was it? Yeah. But that's the difference between champions and losers. Oh, here we go. He was like, well, we're not going to win, so why bother watching?

We were like, stole Hansky. I said what, we won two World Series. Like, we've won in baseball. Oh, that's cute. 27. That's adorable. 27 world treaties don't have any lock against the Yankees But that's the beauty of sports

That's the beauty of sports That's why they play the game There's always a chance The Red's actually the same thing until 2004 It's like how the Vikings Don't have any look against football For example Oh shit

Oh my god Right to the last drop Listen I'm a New York Jets fan So I feel like we have a certain kids You got Teddy Bridgewater Yeah you got Kurt Cous in this year We're gonna win this year You know we're like the biggest loser

Devils, Jets, and Mets The Devils won three times, but I'm a Mets, Jets, and Nets fan. Oh, boy. And so the devils sort of are like the only light in my life compared to these other disasters. Mets looking good, though. The Mets are, yeah, it's April. They're looking good, though. Plenty of time for it to fall apart.

It is definitely April, although not so good last night against the Braves where the rotted corpse of Matt Harvey gave up a billion runs. in the first three innings. We had at the Super Troopers two premiere in New York City a couple nights ago. Tim Wakefield came. Master of the knuckleball. Master of the knuckleball. And, you know, it's...

Confounder of the Yankees for years. God, he was tough. Oh, by the way, I'm sorry. Phil Necro, Master of the Knuckleball. Yeah. Well, Wakefield played like as many years probably as Necrow. No. He did it do.

Not as many wins, though. No. Not at all. So that's awesome. All right. Movies out. Go see it. In theaters and stuff.

Yep. It starts 420. You're 420. Yep. The New York Times critics pick? When does this drop? We got it. The New York Times critics pick.

We got it. During the Tribeca Film Festival, no less. We got it. The New York Times has a... I mean, the reviewers are generally cruel to us. And you don't even know why they're sending these people to review. They're just going to kill us. It's not a critic.

Grumpy guys. Yeah, the Times has been so cruel to us that we actually tried to kiss their ass a little bit. And, like, we gave a nod to the Times. We made a joke in Super Troopers, too. Yeah, about A.O. Scott. times, but they gave us the critic The honey trap you said? Yes, it worked.

It worked. It's all you have to do. It's all you have to do. As far as you guys read the reviews, I figured you'd be like, you know what, screw it. We met Sandler once and he said, the first thing he said was don't read your reviews. I should never read it. I read for fun. But what happens is when you get a New York Times critics pick, your friends just keep

sending you that review. And they're like, awesome New York Times review, and you are going to read that. That one is a sure. You guys read, Roper Review said, ends with saying that my, character has never been funny. That's what they say. Farva has never been funny. What? So he gave it, did he give us a bad review? Yeah. What? We kissed it. But apparently I'm the least funny thing in the movie. Wow. So, I mean, in fairness, that's true. In fairness, Richard Roper was the worst thing on Ebert and Roper at the movies. Sure, sure. He was in

Ebert. Yeah, who did he say was the best? Rob Lowe, apparently. Emmanuel Street's Young one. By the way, do you guys, like, Gruget and I do. doing the sequel like in 04? Because I feel like this has been wanted for a very long time. I've wanted it.

You know, when we made Super Troopers, there's a scene where Eric drinks the maple syrup and he was violently ill. And Kevin, you know, had a scene with powdered sugar where his, you know, he was freezing and his junk looked super tiny. And, uh... Well, the camera adds.

Right. Yeah. Not on the ads, not on my tricks. But like, so we realize if you make, if you write the stuff, you do have to perform it at some point. And so as our follow-up, we were like,

let's put ourselves on a tropical island surrounded by hundreds of women and be teams Now this decision Probably not the smartest Did it come before or after you met Adam Sandler? Because that does seem like the

Sandler move It is a Sandler move So you go And get your friends He's smart It was after It was after Because he was like

After Super Troopers He was like God you guys are great Let's do something together And then we And he's like And it didn't work out And he's like

You know If anything ever goes wrong Come back We'll work together And so we were like Ah fuck We're going to make Club Dread We made Club Dread

It tanked And then the next day Sandler He said, I think you guys need me. Come on in. And then we developed Beer Fest with him. Oh, I didn't realize. I didn't know that's awesome. He was a part of BeerFund.

He was. And then he ended up dropping out because the project fell apart. But at the beginning, he was in it. And it is one of the, like, I hate it when people slam Adam Sandler because it was like, it was one of the coolest thing. Meeting this guy. He was saying, I'll help you at some point if you ever need it. And then him following up and saying, you need my help. Actually doing it.

And then we did it. We set up, you know, Beer Fest at his studio. And it was awesome. But he was right. I mean, his movies make $100 million dollars. He doesn't need the critic of his own success. And then people kind of see him making movies for Netflix and it's kind of the same vibe

and they're like, he's just doing the same thing over and over again. Yeah, except the fact that Netflix is paying but fuck a ton of money. A shit a lot of money. Is Weed Fest going to be the thing ever? No. If we have, the truth of the matter is, if we have a great opening weekend, then we can have real conversations about Super Troopers 3 and Pot Fest and a bunch of other scripts that we want to do.

If the crowds don't show up for opening weekend, we're in a really tough position. We toast. 17 years. Which is weird because, I mean, Super Troopers was, like many films around that time, like a success on a rental and DVD and everything else. Like, why is opening weekend for this one such a key? Well, you're still measured by theatrical box office. Those are the people who greenlight the next one.

Okay. And the fact of the matter is Super Troopers was a huge DVD success, but that market doesn't exist anymore. They don't have the DVD market. And so the studios don't know how to fill that yet. I mean, that was a huge moneymaker for them just because you can make those DVDs for so cheap. We'll say it on behalf of you. Listen, you pirate fucks. We all know that you love Super Troopers and smoke weed all day in pirate fucking movies.

But don't pirate this one. That's right. Go to the theater. Super Troopers reminds me to John Wick in that. John Wick did well, but it didn't do as well maybe as the second one. And after that movie got on cable, everyone was like, holy shit, this movie's great. Oh, yeah, that's where I saw. I thought that was the Super Troopers thing as well.

Same way. Super Troopers, people pass the DV around their buddies and their dorm rooms and their brothers or whatever it was. And it wasn't until four or five years later that people were. The point is is rally the troops. Get out there. Go see Super Troops. groupers too because the big weekend means that they can make more things. And there are a lot of hockey juice.

Right, a lot of hockey references. It needs to be cheered up after the wild, they're eliminated tonight, so he wants to see good numbers. Oh. Oh. This might be the time. You resign yourself, right? Well, we lost our best defensemen, now we're out without Preezy. Oh, boy.

No other teams who won this Gany Cup had to deal with injuries and adversity. Oh, geez. Friends, friends. Friends are the best. the best. Leave it to your friends to make you feel like a dick. I gotta go hang on a ban with this. All right, you beauties. We love you. Thanks you for coming and doing our new podcast.

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