Purple Insider - a Minnesota Vikings and NFL podcast - Are post-draft power rankings buying the Vikings? (Part 2)

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

Matthew Coller and intern Clay dive into power rankings around the NFL and what they are saying about the Vikings. Are they down on them like last year or buying after a 14-win season? Plus Vikings fan questions...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

So I'm here. What do you got? What do you guys want to talk about? Throw your questions in the chat. And we'll have a conversation for a while. Intern Clay's mom, very proud. She she knew she knew that he needed to say football before he left. We're working.

We're working on it. We're working on it. Still young. What do you guys got? What do you guys got for questions, comments? What do you want to talk about? Blade Runner says, Jalen Naylor has a chance to shine if and when Jordan Addison is suspended, could earn or lose millions. Yeah, that's a good, a good point. And even though the Vikings drafted Ty Felton,

I still think that Jalen Naylor is going to have a good season for them. And a son of beavers follows up with, uh, do I think that he gets traded during the preseason? No, no, no. I don't think so at all. I think that they are looking at Jalen Nailer as still wide receiver three, still a downfield option for them and the fill in player for Jordan Addison or I mean, somebody could always get hurt. That does happen as well as like Addison got hurt early in the season and Jalen Nailer played

pretty well in a couple of games replacing Jordan Addison. So if he has to do it again, then he's already been in that role before. And then Ty Felton moves up or Rondale Moore or whoever Lucky Jackson, Thayer Thomas, whoever it is, everybody has to slide up the depth chart for a couple of games. And historically it's been three games has been the suspensions for DUI. If Jordan Addison gets the traditional three games suspension, I mean, that's a significant chunk there for a Jalen Naylor to play that wide receiver

to roll. And the fact that he's got experience playing multiple positions in the offense, I would guess that they are not only not going to trade him, but are going to trade him, but are going to even put more pressure on him throughout the off season to learn those positions and be ready because we still don't know what's going to happen there. And this thing is being dragged out quite a bit, but, uh, if it does come back that he ends up with whatever charge, uh, coming through, don. Don't these are legal terms, right?

I don't know the legal terms guilty. I mean, whatever it is that he'll probably get suspended for multiple games. So and look, I think that Jalen Naylor and Ty Felton are two different guys where you can offer something different with each one of them on the field. So you wouldn't want to take Jalen Naylor off the roster and then not have that extra clear out guy and just have Felton being the underneath type of wide receiver that yards after catch guy. I expect him to be a big part of the offense.

Do I think they sign anybody from rookie mini camp tryouts? Well that depends on them. I don't know. Every year there's been a guy or two that they'll sign and we're like, Oh, okay. And then the guy will end up at camp. And sometimes that guy turns out to be like Adam Thielen or something or Chad BB and usually they don't.

So I don't know. I mean, the rookie mini camp this year, the reason it will be kind of interesting is that there's such a small draft class. Normally what we're looking at at a rookie mini camp is just all the draft picks, but this year there will be opportunities for somebody to stand out. It's not a very intense thing to watch from a reporter perspective. There's, they're not killing each other. They're not hitting each other. Uh, but there might be one of those players that you go, wait a minute, that guy's kind of catching everything out there.

And then they end up bringing them in sometimes even a rookie mini camp. I remember like Ty Conklin making an impression. I kind of want to see a Max Brosmer if he's there and see what he looks like under these circumstances, because I didn't think that the Gophers had a particularly great offensive setup and Max Brosmer put up pretty good numbers with that. Doesn't mean I think he's ever going to compete for a starting job, but could he get like that QB for position where he's fighting for practice squad spot?

I think that kind of has to start in the rookie mini camp. So but if if we're short on questions this evening, because it is a little bit of the slower time, then I could probably call it a wrap and watch the rest of this Nix and Celtics game. So who do I think signs first? Cam Hakers or Dalton Reisner? Well. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Reisner should have a job.

When you look around the NFL, I get why teams don't want a guy who doesn't run block effectively. Because a lot of your passing game is built off the run. Everyone is talking about how important the run game is these days. I am a little dubious on it being wildly different than it was in the past. Quarterback runs are changing the game and changing the numbers a little bit.

But as far as just handing off to running backs, okay, Saquon Barkley was legendary this year. So was Derrick Henry. The rest of the league was the same as it ever was, but pass protection. It's getting harder to find guys who can pass pro by at the guard spot. That's why we're talking about drafting. Donovan Jackson makes more sense than, uh, it ever had. So. I mean, I don't know why Dalton Reisner doesn't get any attention

from the league or better contracts. I also think maybe too, that in the past, he's overvalued himself a little bit going into free agency. I remember last year him saying that he didn't have a lot of opportunities other than the Vikings and you go, well, maybe it's not a bad idea to grab him again if he wants a job. If nobody wants him, I mean, he stepped in both years and done pretty well. I thought last year that Ed Ingram was struggling so much that Dalton rise there, save the day coming in and playing a solid right guard.

Can you imagine what would have happened to Ed Ingram in the game against Tennessee where they were playing against Simmons and to Vandrey sweat and they were just sending everybody at Sam Darnold. So I mean, I don't know. I don't really understand it. Cam acres. I get a little bit more I mean he was good for them last year, but you're still talking about the serious injury risk of two repaired Achilles and

Is he as explosive as he used to be? But you know, we might see him we might come back. He was a really good teammate and a grinder I do wonder about because I made and this will probably be a podcast for later in the week But I made a list of all the different potential surprises for the 53 man roster I made my first 53 man roster projection and I'll go through that definitely later in the week That's probably Thursday's podcast. So we'll do that, but the projection for the roster. And I also looked at like, could what could be surprises or things that we're looking for in the spring. Does another running back show up or are they going to roll with Ty

Chandler's RB three? We are in a world where now you guys and me, we all, we look at every roster move and decision under a microscope and go, okay, but both of these running backs have had some injuries at times. So are you going to roll out Ty Chandler as RB3 again? Or does this guy Trey Stewart from Jacksonville State have a chance? They're bringing them in, I don't know. Like it was supposed to be such a deep running back draft that there would be undrafted guys who were talented.

So maybe, or maybe we do see cam-makers back in week three or something. I don't know. I just wouldn't be surprised. And either one of those guys are fine to bring back to the Vikings if they want to. One more from Son of a beavers during preseason. What position can you see them trading a late day three pick for a tight end

three or safety? Yeah. Safety is another position. Well, I was thinking running back actually, as, as I'm reading that just now, because if Ty Chandler has a same camp that he had last year, he's going to get cut, uh, last year, I think they came out of camp and went, okay, that is not what we were looking for this year for him picking up the offense and, and all that. Uh, and then last year proved that they couldn't really

trust him. That's why I've been thinking, is there somebody else that's on the way at the running back position or are they going to try this one more time? But if they do, and they don't like what they see, then they could trade the late day three or just the pick swap a seventh for a sixth or something tight end three. I like the competition that they got the guy from Georgia, Gavin Bartholomew, who I was actually just before this talking with his high school coach for an article I'm doing about him, hoping to connect with him at rookie mini camp and get that out there. But I think they're okay with tight end three.

I know you guys love tight end three. It's really funny how your roster, think about this, the roster is so deep that I've gotten probably just as many tight end three questions as anything else on the entire roster because you're like, okay, well that's filled and that's filled. Where's the question mark? Tight end three. But that's what they drafted Gavin Bartholomew to be. That will be a competition though. There will be multiple guys, I'm sure. But you could be right. They could, I don't think trade for one,

but maybe you're talking about pick one up a veteran who gets released because he loses a competition could be Panucci says does Addison get traded with the looming suspension and the Vikings adding more receivers? I don't think there's any chance that Jordan Addison gets traded by this team unless there's another problem we always have to hedge because we said last year well he better have learned his lesson and then he didn't. And so he better have learned his lesson this time around. But Jordan Addison is not a player you trade. A first round draft pick who can get you in the ballpark

of a thousand yards, 70 catches, one of the best deep ball trackers in the league, great route runner. If he was wide receiver one last year, he's probably got a hundred catches. But you know, Justin Jefferson of course takes up a good percentage of that, but he's open all the time. He's just not a guy that you want to let go out of your building. Anything you trade him for is not going to be worth it.

In the best case scenario for Jordan Addison, he plays so well and keeps his nose clean over the next two years to the point where they're signing him to an extension to where it looks like T Higgins and Jamar Chase. That is the best possible scenario for the Vikings with Jordan Addison. The reason that I love the idea of drafting receivers is because they're so hard to replace. Now, if Ty Felton is phenomenal, well, then maybe you feel like you can let Addison go and not have to spend $30 million on him. But aside from that just would not be a guy that I'm trying to get rid of because okay, you get a draft pick or something great, but you're looking for

what having to draft another wide receiver because you help he becomes as good as Jordan Addison. Uh, I get it with the off field stuff. And I remember saying last year after the arrest or citation that if they decided that was enough for them and they moved him, I'd be like, okay, because there's no one as important as Justin Jefferson, but since then there have been no issues. If that continues to be the case, well, I would prefer that they just have a player who makes your

quarterback better. Blade Runner says, how much faith do you have in the run defense with the teams on the schedule this season? Yeah, I looked at this the other day that they're facing like what the top three in the league or something like that in the run. I don't think the run defense is going to be anywhere near as effective as last year, but I also think that the pressure on the quarterback from rushing for and their coverage can be better than it was last year. It was certainly good, but if you look at the second half of that season,

they were much closer to an average team when it came to coverage, and they were really good with a couple of players at creating pressure, but not enough. It really depends on Jonathan Allen and whether he goes back to being the guy that he was a couple of years ago. One thing that I really don't know was what Jonathan Allen was told to do.

So was he told to just rush up field every time, or was he told that he needed to stop the run and then just was being beaten because he's getting older. Because once upon a time, Jonathan Allen is a really good run defending defensive tackle. a time, Jonathan Allen is a really good run defending defensive tackle. Sometimes those PFF numbers can be shaped by the context and just what you're told to do by your coaching staff. If your coaching staff says stop the run on the way to the quarterback, well you're gonna miss tackles and you're not gonna be a good run defender, but if there's an emphasis on stuffing gaps and holding blockers in place and making tackles, well then you might get better numbers than that.

Overall, quarterbacks running is gonna be a problem because it's always a problem. Those teams, you're not gonna stop Lamar Jackson, you're not gonna stop Jalen Hurts. What you're hoping for though is that they do lean on the run more than the pass. And if the running goes up because you have running quarterbacks, maybe the pass success goes down a little bit against the Vikings defense. But I mean, I think they'll be fine. Harrison Phillips

is still a good run defender. We'll see about a Levi Drake Rodriguez, a Jaylen Redmond who was good against the run, Takitayamani, but the guys that are running down the opposing runners are really good. Like Cashman, Ivan pace Jr, Harrison Smith, Josh Mattelis, like these guys who are making those tackles are good and they usually don't put anybody out there who at cornerback can't tackle, which is really vital in the NFL today. I think it's underrated that, uh, corners, you know, can't tackle, which is really vital in the NFL today. I think it's underrated that corners, you know, can't tackle. Tony says, uh, Donovan Jackson's going to be a beast.

Got to eat your vegetables every once in a while. I don't disagree with that. I mean, this, this fan base, you're never going to have to fight too hard to convince that drafting a guard is a good idea. I don't even know if drafting a guard should be viewed these days as eating the vegetables. I know it's not as exciting as maybe some other positions, I guess, but the increase in difficulty, the degree of difficulty for corners has corners for guards has never been higher.

It's never been higher. And this shows up in the the numbers how difficult it is to play guard these days. Which also means we're gonna need some patients probably with donovan jackson at times what to have somebody who is athletic enough to play tackle for an ohio state at the highest level under the brightest lights moving into guard is really telling and i think that being anything short of a freakish athlete is just not going to get it done anymore at guard, or at least having, you know, Tyler Booker will probably be okay with his size. But usually to match up with the defensive tackles and the blitz is that the intelligence, the athleticism that's required, it's a valuable position. Now I think it's moved up into if we're going to say defensive tackle is premium, then guard has to those are the guys who are trying to stop them.

Then guard has to get its due as well. Son of Beavers wouldn't mind Jonathan Bullard coming back. Thing is, there's a lot of competition there. There's just a lot of competition in the room for defensive tackle. I was in my 53 projection. I was trying to get everybody on the team and i couldn't leave i drake rodriguez jail and redmond talk to my money and then tie ingram dockens is also now part of that room. That's a lot of guys that are competing. could bring back if they had an injury or something. I think he did a good job for them, but I also think they want more than zero as far as the ability to get after the quarterback because if you put a guy in there on first

down as a run stuffer, but then they drop back to throw, you've just got nothing. I mean he can move bodies, but you've got nothing for him getting upfield. Skywalking McCarthy, happy May the fourth be with you yesterday, I guess. Saw that everywhere. Where did that come from? Uh, says, uh, looking forward to the tight end three battle. Uh, who do you think wins it? I think it's, uh, you're a sec.

Oh, it could be. I think Gavin Bartholomew is going to win it probably because what you're often looking for is somebody who is reflective of your starter to be able to slide into that position and Bartholomew is kind of a TJ Hockinson type. He's not the biggest. He's not the biggest bruiser, but he is a route runner and he's a pass catcher, but it could be the, the undrafted free agent. I mean, there's not that big of a difference between sixth round and and UDFA, uh, son of beavers, all the deep roster questions today. Um, how many open roster spots are there?

There's not that many. There's really not that many. I mean, this is not going to be a year where we're talking about a ton of competitions. I mean, Skywalking McCarthy talking about tight end three. I get ready to hear a lot about the tight end three battle, I guess, because no, I understand. I get, I understand where may the fourth be with you. May the force be with you.

I understand that. I know that. But when did they start saying that? Would that start in the seventies and I just didn't notice? Or was that recent? Is it like an internet thing? I had never heard it until recently, and I certainly had not seen everybody dressing up.

People were dressing up as Star Wars characters to go in public and go to church and everything like that. Like, I don't know, i just saw it everywhere yesterday. I knew what it meant i got the pun i just didn't know when it became a phenomenon. But anyway the fifty three man roster. There's not a lot of these competitions there's a little bit of a depth battle defensive tackle there's a little bit of tight end at the back end of the wide receiver group Rondale Moore And then everybody behind Rondale Moore that's chasing him if he has a chance to make the team I think a lot of us have already put him on the team

But we shouldn't really do that because we don't know what he's gonna come back from the injury and we've seen this player before In like Tajay sharp or Kendall, right? Michael Floyd it doesn't always work out just because the guy was somewhere else. First, there was a bunch of guys that are going to be trying to chase them down. It was created by Disney to sell merch. Oh, OK, I respect it. We need to come up with something like that for Purple Insider, I guess, because it worked whatever they did.

Uh, Mama says, How much do you think KOC enjoys throwing to Jefferson in camp? Oh, I mean, he has a great time. He's a kid in a candy store out there. That is one thing about Kevin O'Connell that I think rubs off on everybody, which is just his joy for football is enthusiasm. I mean, he getting out there and he doesn't throw the nicest passes I've ever seen, but getting out there, being on the field, throwing to the receivers,

you know that he loves it. They sense that he loves it. They know how much he loves the game and how much he cares about it. And his that enthusiasm just matters a lot, I think, to the players. And it helps create this work environment that everybody wants to be a part of. But it's not the nicest throws, I will say. Not that I could throw it better. Blade Runner, it was your birthday yesterday? Oh no. So you're the may the fourth be with you, may the fourth on your birthday be with you. That's rough. If KOC were to start a game this year, could we win a game? Absolutely not. No, you would lose

50 to zero if Kevin O'Connell started the game for you. He couldn't. He couldn't start a game when he was 20, much less when he is now 38 or 39. No, you would. He would be horrible. He wouldn't have a chance. It's a it's a tough game out there. It is a very tough game in the NFL. He would not have remotely any possible opportunity to win a football game. Remember when the wide receiver started for Denver? That's probably what it would look like. I think that he could complete. He would know so much about the offense that he could complete swing passes, maybe.

But I don't think they would even be accurate. Maybe screens, but he's not great at dialing up screens. So then I don't even know if he could do that. I think he could get a couple of, he could probably take the snap and get the ball out of his hands fast enough to just get it to a running back who would then be destroyed.

It's a hard league and he would have to train like an NFL quarterback to take any hit. That's one thing that we don't. Or that we take it for granted. I think is how insanely painful it must be to get hit by Jonathan Allen or Jayvon Hargrave, and that's something that the quarterbacks prepare themselves year round to do. So if they just threw Kevin O'Connell into a game, it would be it would be very ugly.

But that's a funny question. I wonder what his answer to that is if he had to get I think it would be the same as mine. They would just not score any points. That's why you draft one kid. That's 22 10th overall so he can do it. So the biggest roster battles tight end 3, three DT, four cornerback, three cornerback, three, is that even?

Cause it looks like it's going to be Rogers, Byron Murphy and Mackay Blackman. And then it's really cornerback for, is it McClother and is it Jeff Okuda or does somebody else Ambry Thomas? Like does somebody else that Ambry Thomas. Like does somebody else? That's a real person. If there's another guy that kind of emerges, somebody else could take that cornerback four spot, the, uh, safety three is yeah. Well, okay.

So safety, I was thinking about, I was thinking about that. Like is Jay ward in the, in the competition, they have not talked about Jay ward as if he's in the competition they have talked about Theo Jackson, Theo Jackson, Theo Jackson can we get a punter battle? I hope so for god's sake we have been told year after year there will be a punter battle and there really isn't one I mean we've been lied to hoodwinked somebody needs to do a behind the scenes Seth Wickersham 10,000 word article about where these punting competitions have gone. So Oscar Chapman, I wish the best to you, but they just, you know, they keep running back the same guy over and over again. So,

but yeah, I mean, the safety position seems like it belongs to Theo Jackson, but it's a long summer, long spring and summer Jay Ward could make a name for himself. We've seen that happen before maybe but it really seems like they're locked in on Theo Jackson Skywalking McCarthy's favorite pick was Tyreon Ingram Dawkins Shamar Stewart profile without the risk. Yeah, I Mean guys like that historically don't work out historically. And that goes for Shemar Stewart too. But when you're taking one in the fifth, we used to make fun of the Vikings for doing it because that was so predictable. Every year it's some guy who's tall and has a good relative athletic score and lanky and

he didn't sack anybody. And we go, okay, we know what you guys are doing. You're looking for the next, Daniel Hunter, but there are a little bit of circumstances that go around Ingram Dawkins that makes him more interesting to me than those guys, which is number one, he was at Georgia and decided to stay there and wait his turn to get in the game. That's something we don't see very much in college football anymore. If you're not playing at Georgia,

you're just gonna transfer to Chattanooga or something to make sure you play and then you'll get your sacks there. He waited his turn. And also the reason they drafted him and we got this impression from his first press conference is seems like a guy with the right attitude. And that attitude is to develop that he knows he's not taking Andrew Van Ginkgels job or any of the other defensive tackles jobs. He knows he's going to come into the room and be a development player.

And somebody on draft night compared him to Jay or Jahad ward. I like that comparison a lot. Somebody who is a tweener, which they also got with Tyler Batty, the undrafted free agent from BYU, they are good with tweeners. Guys who weigh 270 pounds and are six foot three or six foot four, that's not really a defensive tackle. It's not really an outside linebacker or defensive end. So, you know, those guys can find a role like Jahad Ward did last year for

the Vikings and you know in the past it's been a more rigid type of system with Mike Zimmer where if you didn't really fit the profile of one of those defensive line positions then you weren't going to make it so much. But now with Brian Flores he can say what is the one thing he's good at? Where does he fit in? What he found from Ward last year was he, he rushes up the middle well. And so he put them in position to do that all the time. That might be the case for, uh, Ingram Dawkins. We'll see.

I think he's a guy that should make the team and, but if he does make the team, then who goes out? Is it time on who made the team last year, but then got hurt? Now I don't know. Uh, is Bo Richter edge for yeah, how about that position by the way? How about that position right now? The Vikings have nobody competing it outside linebacker outside of the guys We already know so it's Van Ginkle Granard Turner, but then Bo Richter and Gabe Murphy and outside that, they brought in one guy from Georgia who had some sacks last year, Chambliss, undrafted free agent. Aside from that, like they don't have, they don't have dudes at that position.

It's really some three, four defensive end types, a lot of defensive tackles, but they don't have a lot of depth there, which I think shows belief. Bo Richter is one of those guys to watch this year in training camp. I think he's going to take a step forward. He was a player for them last year and then did great on special teams, which I value. I think if you can do well on special teams, then at least we know you can be on an NFL field making plays gives you a chance. And Gay Murphy too, he had a good training camp before he got hurt. So they like those guys. But that might be one position where they could add somebody. That was a question earlier.

Where could they add? Maybe if there's one guy who gets banged up, you have to go out and look for somebody else to help there. So did NIL ruin the Gophers chances of ever being good? They were pretty good last year, weren't they? I don't think that it did. I don't think that maybe a basketball it did, but I don't think that it did for football. They were still able to go out and use it to keep some players

and to get Max Brosmer as a quarterback. I think they'll be I think they'll be OK in that world. They're they're never going to use it to turn around and be ridiculously great. But I think that they can compete in that world. Uh, let's see. Joel says you could pick one offensive player, one defensive player from the past that isn't, uh, more than likely won't be a hall of fame or to put on the roster. Okay.

So somebody who won't be in the hall of fame, I assume you just mean Vikings, somebody who won't be on the hall of fame that I would want to put on this roster. Yes, basketball, they're in trouble with the NILs. Yep. That didn't work out too good for them. So I could take anybody from the roster, from any roster for the Vikings in the past who is not in the Hall of Fame, and I could put them on this team right now. I would probably go with, let me, let me see who is the, uh, well, how about this? Antoine Winfield would be the guy. I would put Antoine Winfield on defense for sure. And if, if PFF had been around long enough and he might've been a Hall of Famer because the PFF numbers really tell a story

with Antoine Winfield, but also Pat Williams is a pretty good answer to that or Henry Thomas How about somebody who's a little more beefy than what they have now? Even recently well, how about Xavier Rhoads, I might go with Xavier Rhoads just because they don't have that corner who locks people down But I like Winfield is kind of a first answer and Panucci's answer is exactly who I was going to go with. Technically, Adrian Petersen is not a hall of Famer yet, but I know that's not of the, the way you're presenting the question.

Like he will be, but Adrian Peterson, 2012 would be an answer here, but this would be, this would be the answer for me. Probably Percy Harbin would be the guy that you would put on the offensive side And if I can have him returning kicks as well, that's a good one But you know Anthony Carter would be another one just for a wide receiver Robert Smith How about Robert Smith as good as I think that their running game is gonna be Robert Smith Is probably a great answer for that or Leroy Horde just for the vibes You guys might end up loving Jordan Mason as much as Leroy Horde

similar type of player Just just gonna be I think a fan favorite cuz he's gonna run over people. That's a fun question but yeah for me, it's it's Percy Harvin, maybe there's a That's a fun question. But yeah, for me, it's it's Percy Harvin. Maybe there's a maybe there's like a Jeff Christie. Ryan Kelly's good, though. Jeff Christie was pretty good. Matt Burke was pretty good. Those guys, top notch centers you might go with.

Cordero, Patterson, the kick returns back. Cordero would have been really great with that. Obviously, Jerome Felton is the answer. Jim Klein saucer. How about how about a little meat? How about a little more meat on that offensive side? All right. Anyway, now we've reached the point where you're you guys are talking about if a hot dog is a sandwich.

So that's probably the time to to duck out. I also want to Chad Greenway would be a good answer. I think they kind of have Chad Greenway in Blake Hashman, like that kind of player, Ivan Pace. I don't know if it takes a Greenway was a really good player obviously, but I don't know if I'm trying to think of an Antoine Winfield kind of fills an area where they're not already really great.

Everson Griffin would be another answer. Like how about Everson Griffin on this team to go with the other pass rushers that they have or Linval Joseph just just in terms of guys I've covered. I mean Linval Joseph would be a good answer to Delvin Cook and his prime is better than both of these running backs for sure. So alright, I'm going to watch the end of this Celtics Knicks game, but thanks for the chat. Everybody's just fun. It's going to be a chill around here, I think. And we're going to get OTAs and we're going to get mini camp and rookie mini camp. And I'll be reporting on all those things, but a lot of opportunities

in the live shows to just talk football and have some fun. So I'm glad that you all joined for that. Sidney Rice. Yes, Sidney Rice. Oh, eight or nine. Sidney Rice would be good for sure. But okay. Well great stuff everybody. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, Shree Floyd before he got hurt. There's there's a lot of good answers in this team's recent history But Percy Harvin still probably is the best because you can use them in the backfield you can use them at the nickel You can use them in the return game. He could do absolutely anything.

So, uh, all right. Thursday night we'll be back going live unless there's some sort of news item that happens before that. And I don't know if reports of the Vikings playing in Ireland are quite enough for an emergency pod. We'll see. Maybe if it's a tight end signing, then it will be. All right.

Thanks everybody. We'll catch you all soon. Football.