Purple Insider - a Minnesota Vikings and NFL podcast - Fresh NFL Mock Draft ideas for the Vikings (Part 2)

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

Matthew Coller talks about how the NFL universe is still mock drafting Oregon S Dillon Thieneman in every draft but a few rogue analysts have other ideas. Who are the most interesting other players mocked to the Minnesota Vikings? Let's have a look and then chat draft and more. The Purple Insider podcast is brought to you by FanDuel. Also, check out our sponsor HIMS at https://hims.com/purpleinsider Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dumer says first round tackle this year would become almost required if there's no Neil extension. You could find yourself in a situation 2027 where you need a first round quarterback and first round tackle. Yes, that's that is why tackle and then the one person there from s.i.com, I think I'm like, you know, I see you. You actually put some thought into this thing because that's why tackle would make sense for them is that if you're right, you, if Kyler Murray goes nine and eight, and it's just okay, and they slip into the playoffs,

losing the first round, and you're not willing to give him $100 plus million, what you doing at the quarterback position? You're drafting one. And then if you're also in need of a tackle because you didn't extend yours, then you're drafting one in the second. Then you have a rookie quarterback and a rookie tackle.

Or you're trying to go into free agency where I wish you the best of luck, finding offensive tackles in free agency. It's a nightmare. It's even, I mean, the Vikings made it work with Riley Reef. But they were also considering, who was it? Is it Russell Okung? And that didn't work out.

The options have never been good in free agency at tackle. Coltrane says easy to forget Cam Bynum was a corner at Kale. Yeah. No, Cam Bynum. And like that's with the Keyon Scott. Maybe there's something there that corner could transition into safety. I just didn't realize that that was being talked about. I had viewed Scott as sort of a nickel corner when I had looked at,

where is he going to be drafted? I just didn't have him on that list. So then I was kind of thinking it through like, well, I guess he does, you know, he's a nasty player. So I guess he kind of comes off that way. Cam, the other thing about Cam that was unique is, and you guys know this, Cam is one of the smartest players out there.

Like, you're just not, you don't find too many dudes who can do what he did from a mental standpoint. Maybe Keon's God is that guy, but that was a little bit of a unique situation. also played next to this guy named Harrison Smith, which helped. Son of bevers. Kilgore could be taken late if we don't grab a safety early. Kilgore would be a guy that I think would take some transition time.

But if he clicked, that one has very high potential with his athleticism, his playmaking. Because of Harrison Smith and Cam Bynum, I am a little more, I guess bias is the wrong word. But I tend to lean toward the guys who are known for. for being high IQ and great learners and great identifiers rather than great athletes. Luisine was a great athlete. He was supposed to have the other mental makeup stuff and it just didn't end up working out for him. But I tend to lean a little bit more toward, hey, you can learn to play in the NFL.

And if you see things quickly, it'll make up for having a four or five, whatever. And I think that's a key Wheatley from Penn State in this draft. kill Gore would be a big swing though like this guy if he's going to work out he's going to work out really well Mr. Mayor is it wild that the only real players were talking about drafting on defense when our D was the only good part of our team yeah yeah yeah yeah well and and that could be part of the discussion with KOC with Rob Brzynski with Brian Flores they could be having this conversation as well like hey look you know yes you. You certainly want your defensive tackle, your corner, your safety in the first round. But you have been able to make a lot out of not necessarily everything.

They've had good players, but Van Ginkle played his best football here. Gernard played his best football here. Cashman played his best football here. Josh Mattelis, who had done not a lot after he got drafted until Brian Flores got here, Cambinam, you know, played his best with Brian Flores. So he's gotten a lot out of players that weren't necessarily those high draft picks and maybe that should be something that gets factored into the conversation about what they're going to do in this draft because also, I mean, if you can if you can have a top 10 defense that could get hot in the playoffs, you can win. If you have an offense that is only okay, it's hard to find offenses that have been only. okay that go deep into the playoffs.

Usually it's offenses that are phenomenal that end up going deep into the playoffs. Now, you're going to need your defense to win you a game. That's not the point. Like, I'm not saying you're going to rank 32nd. But usually if you have a defense that can get hot, get turnovers, make plays, you can win in the playoffs. It's just fair. It's like the Texans were this way.

They had this great, great, great defense with all this investment and their offense couldn't get it done. And there you go. You're out. Um, so there, there is a case for saying, hey, just draft, you know, third round defensive players, get offense early, get weapons, get offensive linemen, whatever it is, because it's offense that's usually going to drive you in the NFL still. That's probably true.

Um, or K.O seems like you can get playable safeties on day three this year. I, I would never say playable for anything on day three. It's all sort of dice rolls, but day two for sure. I look at the day two guys. If, if it's someone like, I really like. Bud Clark from watching him. There are certain players that I think I'll do this some night where I'll just say like, I like this dude for this reason.

And then just, you know, explain why. But Bud Clark is one of them. I've seen him play a number of times at TCU over the last couple years. He's played a lot of football. He makes plays on the ball. I don't know. Like, is that a guy who can, that's your scouting report for Bud Clark. He has played a lot of football.

He makes plays on the football. And I don't know. What's let's find out what? What does the beast say? What does the beast say about Bud Clark? Let's find out. He's an older guy. So I have seen him play a lot.

Dane Brugler's takeaway is that he is an overly responsive and covered. Oh, yeah, is overly responsive and coverage. What does that mean? Like, does that mean like reacts too much? But he brings range and ball skills to the back end of the defense and makes more plays than he misses. he has field safety starting potential and could hold up in the nickel. There you go. That sounds to me like that would not be a bad player to draft in the third round and then start

at free safety next to Josh Mattelis. I don't know. But those types of players, him and Zaki Wheatley, they're both to me solid type prospects that, as Dane is saying, this guy could probably step in and be solid for you. Superstar unlikely, but solid, yeah. son of beavers what's a deeper class the safeties are dTs the dTs are very deep i think that d t is probably deeper but it's deep with a certain type of player it's i mean there's this is why i'm against kaden macdonald there are i am more for dylan theaneman than i am kate and mcdonald as

two players that i'm a little skeptical on that being the best idea because thineman i'm I think him and McNeil Warren and Downs are in a different category. They are in a different category than A.J. Halsey or Keon Scott or Bud Clark or those, they're just above those guys. Their first round caliber prospects, they could be potential difference makers. I'm good with that. It's hard for me to spot exactly why Kate and McDonald is way better, like way, way, way better draft him in the first round than someone like Daryl Jackson,

who looks like a third round type nose tackle. There's a couple other ones. There's a guy from Missouri. Is it McCollum? Yeah, there's a couple other ones. Oh, Dominique Orange, the big citrus. I love that guy. I mean, if you give me the choice of taking Dominique Orange,

which would just be phenomenal for a defensive tackle, that would be all-timer sort of like a Keith trailer type name. But that guy from Iowa State, big giant dude run stuffer just holds people in place can can take up a couple of offensive linemen to move him you know that kind of thing plays with a nastiness if you're if you're taking him in the third versus kate and macdonald and the difference is what like 3% i mean i just that seems like a much better decision and there's the guy corleone from what's cincinnati he's a big run stuffing dt they're everywhere in this draft that's that's why i wouldn't go

with the 18th pick. Brady says drafting his safety is exciting to me because it feels like the Vikings don't have playmakers. Yeah, you're right about that with, I mean, Isaiah Rogers certainly showed his capability. And then so did Byron Murphy. Those guys can be. Mattelis has been at times. Cashman has been at times.

In 2024, they were taking the ball away from offenses as well as anybody in the NFL. But if your point is that you're losing one of your best. playmakers in Harrison Smith, and then you could really use someone to replace it. McNeil Warren is really good in terms of causing fumbles, which is a crazy. It's crazy to say that's a skill, but I think it actually is. He's a great peanut punch type guy. He gets the football. He's got some picks.

He's got some sacks. Thineman has eight picks in his career. Both of those guys can take the football away. And if you're wanting to replace Harrison Smith with someone else who can do that, I don't think that's a bad opinion. It's really, it's not about when I am talking about the argument against the safety spot, it's really much more about how hard it is to find different positions if you're lacking them, that you can go into free agency and sign people.

There were good safeties this year. Good safeties, Jaquan Brisker, Jalen Hawkins, who signed for six million bucks. If that's the case, then I have a tough time with drafting that in the first round. but if your argument is, okay, yes, you can find decent safeties, but can you find great guys who could take the ball away? That might be a compelling argument. That might be a good case. Brady adds that they need a dog on the back end,

someone who hits and takes the ball away. Sure, yeah. Dumer K.O. Who are the guys that you would stand on the table for? Stand on the table to protest against trading down. Kenyon Sadiq really stands alone on the top of my head. So you mean if that guy's there, take him, do not even think about trading down. Right.

Okay. Sadiq, if they're interested, would be one. Sorry, I'm laughing at the next comment. Tank for Ty Simpson. I don't even know what the, what that, yeah, that's funny, though. But I'm trying to think about who that would be. I mean, anybody from the top 10 that drops, there are guys that are. are probably impossible that they're going to drop.

Carnal Tate or Jeremiah Love, most of the time in the NFL, the mock drafters get it pretty well figured out who's in the top 10. Now, after that, that's where it gets dicey and maybe the order of where those players are gets dicey, but they usually have a good sense for who the guys are that are going to be in the top 10. So Caleb Downs probably isn't dropping to the Vikings. Jeremiah Love is in Sunny Stiles, isn't.

So take those guys out of the equation. and talk realistically, Monsour Delane would be one where I would say you have to take him. That's one where he could actually drop. Sometimes corners surprise us in the draft. That one you have to take. I would also throw out there, Sadiq,

there are some differing opinions on Kenyan Sadiq, but I think that he has special traits, especially with the ball in his hands. And I know you're not drafting for Kyler Murray. He might be your quarterback for a while. if that's the case, Kyler Murray pumps the football to his tight end, yards after catch are huge,

two tight ends rather than three wide receivers. I think the Vikings have shown that to work. The one year Irv Smith was healthy, 2019, that really worked. So Sadiq and Delane would be on my list. I'm not sure how many other guys there really are. I think McCoy might be, Jermad McCoy. The top corners, I think.

I don't know. is it possible that Ruben Bain drops that far? And then, you know, you just take them and believe in Brian Flores. It has to be someone that would drop. Mama will Ty Simpson be the next Jackson Dart. That, yeah, that could happen where it's a late first round draft pick. Kenny Pickett, Jackson Dart, Teddy Bridgewater, that type. I think he falls under that category as a prospect.

He actually, I think has some, I mean, I guess comparisons a little bit, not from what they did in college, but just from a skill set of someone like Derek Carr, where there's athleticism, there's armed talent, but there's also some limitations. So, Ron said, agree with your, from your podcast with Emily and not taking a safety at 18. Yeah, if you miss that, go back, listen to that later. My conversation with Emily Liker really enjoyed that, where we laid out four different potential draft paths and then she had to decide whether she liked them or not. But yeah, that's, you guys have heard my argument against the safety position quite a bit.

But I also want to hedge on that. It's, it's not a travesty. It's not like a crime against football if they are to take an awesome safety. It's more of just a, it's more of like a theoretical. I like to present to you guys because I spend a lot of time on this on the data, the studies, the theory that goes beyond just, hey, good football player. he'll be good for the Vikings. So I try to understand all the different factors that could go into analyzing a pick.

So I do want to make it clear. If they draft Dylan Thineman, I'm not going to go up to a being like, how dare you? How dare you, Dylan Thineman? Because he's probably going to be really good. It's just a more complicated formula. I'm not saying run away from him. The next. Oh, Mama MC, you're very funny.

if we draft Thinemann instead of a wide receiver, a corner, I might die. So that's not going to be my approach. That will not be my thought. And here's why. Here's why. So last year, I did a look back, and I'm planning on doing this for next week with a couple of Vikings drafts.

And I looked back at the, was it the 03 draft where they missed the pick with and eventually took Kevin Williams? and it's such a circus where you have Vikings fans out at Winter Park at the time. And Mike Tice is out there and people are throwing hats. There's ladies yelling at Mike Tice. He tells us great story about how an old woman like yelled at him. And he's just like, what the heck is going on? Like we got a good pick.

I mean, I know it was embarrassing that they missed their pick because everybody wanted. Who was it that they wanted? someone remind me uh who was it they they wanted somebody else and they went with kevin williams and everybody went crazy and it just it was such a circus and they're ripping this pick apart and kevin williams becomes a a hall of fame caliber player he has a good argument for the hall of fame and then this you know has happened many times before i mean even with the brian o'neill story when they drafted o'neill in the second round was like really you drafted a kid that needs to develop for a couple of years and then he turned out to be a really good player right

away. I hadn't quite got here yet when they drafted Lequan Treadwell, but I thought Lequan Treadwell was awesome. And you know, I love drafting wide receivers. I was all in on that. So you never really know how it's going to play out. So don't die if they draft Dylan Thineman because, you know, he might someday be a ring of honor player.

I don't know. Is Gobling says Gobling Graphics is OT a wild possibility since the one. they haven't extended O'Neill and Darrasaw has injury problems. I don't think it's wild. I think it's reasonable. I just, just what we were talking about, that people on the outside,

you know, I think the analysts will be very shocked, since they've all just decided the Vikings are getting Dylan Thineman. And there will be a lot of opinions on it because it will look like, wait a minute, this is a win now team. It's a roster that's really good.

Why didn't you get a, a player that can help you right away. But the thing about the National Football League, that people have to remember is that all 53 who start in their order of the depth chart do not finish that way because people get hurt. And if they drafted Spencer Fanon in the first round, I promise you the guys playing in 20. I mean, it would be mind blowing if nobody on the offensive line got hurt and he didn't have

an opportunity to get in. And then in the future, that's a potential person that you can lock into a position for a really long time. So I would be in favor of tackle, even though I think the fan favorability metric would be really low. But this is what Rob Brissinsky said. He said, make your board based on the players, not based on what guys you think fit needs. There's been a little bit of hinting at, hey, it might not be the most obvious guy.

Or maybe Rob's playing 3D chess with us. I don't know. Bitter Bruce said wasn't Targrave complaining. about how he used to take up blocks instead of rushing the quarterback, maybe an elite, run stuffer would still be a three down guy in this defense. With the Hargrave situation, so he had, this is all on social media, he had quote tweeted someone or retweeted someone who said that defensive tackles in Brian Flores' defense do not always have the nicest time.

And that was true for Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave. and how this works is when it comes to the taking up blocks. So just kind of envision yourself on second down in 13. And the Vikings want to blitz with Eric Wilson. All right. What you're going to do with Javon Hargrave is he's going to line up directly over the guard. But he's going to rush to the outside toward the tackle. And there's going to be maybe somebody else over the center who's going to rush the other way.

And they're going to try to open this. lane for Eric Wilson. So Hargrave is not getting a pressure more likely than not. I mean, he might if the quarterback rolls that way. But more likely, his job is to kind of grab the guy and be like, you're over here. So we can rush free at the quarterback. You don't get good PFF grades doing that. You don't get quarterback pressures or sacks doing that.

What you do is get team sacks doing that. And it works awesome, as you saw from Eric Wilson. But it's probably frustrating for someone like Jvon Hargrave, because in other systems, what you would have is second and 13 pass rush down. Javon, you beat your guy. Do your swim move, do your spin, whatever you're going to do. You just go win yourself. So this is where a Harrison Phillips could be useful because he was strong and he didn't

care and he would just move guys. But when you're talking about someone like Caden McDonald, yes, yes, you could use him on third down and seven to move a body. the ideally though and this is where you look at javon hardgrave he's still got 30 plus pressures ideally what you're looking for there is not having to blitz all the time and still being able to have pass rush upside this is where delvin tomlinson was really good because he had pass rush upside if you go back and look at someone like jonathan bullard where if you're using jonathan bullard on second and 13 or on third and eight i mean yeah he's moving a

body, but you're having to blitz every single time. You're having to use, you're having to rob Peter to pay Paul, you know, blitzing, leaving open parts of the defense. If they pick up your blitz, someone is there. And this has hurt the Vikings defense at times because they've had to blitz all the time over the last couple of years. You'd much prefer to find a defensive tackle who could do both. But yeah, that certainly is, is part of the conversation. When we were talking about Dexter Lawrence, though, you also can adapt to other skills. sets, but that might play into it. We have not seen Brian Flores get someone like Kane McDonald, though.

They've had plenty of opportunities to get a 330 pounder and they haven't done it. Maybe they want to this year. I don't know. Coltrane, how much of the non-analytic approach to drafts during Quasi da Flemenza can be attributed to him not being able to overhaul the scouting department seems odd that Quacy wasn't given that considering his background. Yeah, I think it was, and I saw, I saw Alec had something on this. Alec Lewis, he wrote something, including this the other day.

I think it was in support of Brzezinski maybe in his draft room. The thing about the Wilf's, when they talked about what they want as a GM, they said leadership. And what the Vikings did in hiring Quasi Dauphalementa was they hired a really smart guy. and I know some of you, he's an idiot. He drafted this one. Trust me. I was around quasi-edophomenta enough. I, he knows football, very smart guy.

And he understands really, really well, analytics, team building, all that stuff. But a, and this is something that he and I would discuss it at different times about theories about, you know, drafting and whatever else. And there's a difference, though, between you. as a guy knowing those things and selling a room on those things and having 15 people who are involved in the conversation, including your head coach, your defensive coordinator, your personnel guys, your scouts, whoever else, selling those guys on a concept is different. So I think what Quasi often did was presented that side of it and then tried to get a consensus in the room and sometimes it just went the other way and that he would go with it.

I don't want to make it sound like he wasn't responsible for any of these things. The 22 draft, I think, was his baby and wow. But that also hurt his credibility with the rest of the room was that that trade down didn't work out and his kind of big swing ended up blowing up. So then it becomes a conflict of, well, do you really know what you're doing running the draft? You know, all that sort of stuff. and selling people who he didn't hire on his ideas, I think was a challenge from the outset. It's maybe a reason to hire Rob Brzezinski as your general manager or if you hire an outside GM,

then blow out a lot of those people because you need, I think, support for that general manager. It is a, it's a delicate, it's a much more delicate thing than we make it sound as we're, you know, mock drafting. But it's a great question. Mama says, are the chiefs going to be bad for a while? It feels like it, even though you can never count out Mahomes. If it was just based on roster, yeah, I would think not bad, but I mean, the Broncos have more years to be good. The Raiders have gotten serious as a franchise.

The Chargers should continue to be at least good and competent. I think it's going to be a hard road. And there's a feeling, and maybe this is because they're the chiefs and they've been good. moves the needle. There's a feeling that, well, they're just going to bounce back because they're them. And that had been true every year where it was like, well, the chiefs are just going to be the chiefs and they're going to be great. And it was always true. And then last year it was somehow not true. But show me on the roster. Like they brought back Travis Kelsey. Okay. Ken Walker, I think will matter. Show me on the roster where, wow, they're way better.

I just don't see it. I see them. kind of a borderline, borderline type of playoff team. But bad, probably not. Mahomes is likely too good for them to be bad. Bitter Bruce still like a versatile corner more than a safety in round one. I think any kind of corner is good. Somebody who could play in the nickel would be nice. But most of these guys, if you're getting drafted in the first round,

you're probably playing outside corner almost exclusively. So the first round guys, there looks to me like there might be three first round corners. And I might like Chris Johnson from San Diego State more than others. He's one of those. Circle that guy. If they traded down and drafted Chris Johnson, I'd be like, that's a great, that's a great plan. He might be a little more on the versatile side of being able to play nickel. I look at McCoy, Delane.

Those are more likely guys who are going to be outside type corners. I know in the NFL today, though, you have to be able to play in space. You can't just sit out on the boundary and, you know, lock up somebody like you used to back in the day. That has to be a consideration when they're scouting people. Dumer K.O. is intern Maggie interested in who the Titans pick. I have not asked Maggie about the Titans pick. I think that even though she grew up as a Titans fan in Nashville, her interest in that team, has faded.

But I mean, that was, I think you're getting to the fan duel question of the day, which as a reminder, Arvel Reese minus 195 to be the number two overall pick. Who in the top 10 are you most fascinated by, not players, but teams? What team? I don't think the Titans end up on this. There's a lot of people in Titans land who are saying like, hey, stop mocking Jeremiah love to us. Just because we took, you know, Eddie George back of the day, doesn't mean we're going to do

that. unfortunately I'm one of those people that is going to keep doing that. Alexander, did anyone ask about the giant Diana Rossini elephant in the room? So far, no one has. And I have been happy about that because I don't want to talk about it. I just don't. I have seen it. I am aware of it.

And I don't want to discuss it. I've got nothing for you there. Whatever you think of it is fine. This I just, that's one of those things. where it's harder for me, and I don't know her personally, but I have a lot of colleagues and a lot of friends that are in this industry. And it's a, it's a different situation than, you know, Joe Titan fan 47 on Twitter who can make his meme or whatever when you actually know people. So I'm just going to, I'm just going to opt out of that. But I will say when it comes to the NFL insider thing,

that over the last few years, it has become a really big challenge when information comes out to discern not only just like is there truth to all rumors, but where is this information potentially coming from? How much value should I put in it as someone who is trying the best I possibly can to deliver to you the right information and the right analysis or the best that I possibly can. So if there's reports that are based on things that might have bias behind them, but I don't know that. It's hard to figure that out.

Like, okay, well, what could this? And I don't enjoy that part of the job of sitting there and thinking, all right, and this was why the Aaron Rogers thing was a nightmare because you're going, all right, well, where is this coming from? Why is this being treated a certain way? Why are these certain hints being dropped and things like that and innuendos? being made that because there are more NFL insiders than there ever have been and you have to start thinking about well what's the because you know Schafter and Rappaport like those guys

have been doing this for a really really long time and they're catching strays left and right it's like come on guys they've been those guys have been doing this before NFL insider was like this job NFL insider used to be uh john clayton Peter king it used to be guys that uh and women who could bring you detailed information. Edwarder is another one that comes to mind. Susie Calber was in a different role, but I considered her like one of those very credible people with a lot of knowledge of the league.

I'm sure we could come up with a list of 10 or 12 where before social media, those folks would gather information, bring context and, you know, try to cover all sides of a story of I'm being told this and this is the factors. where now it's very transactional. It's like this person signed,

which could have been a press release most of the time from a team or from an agent. And I mean, Kirk's agent just tweeted it. Like Kirk signing with the Raiders. And that could be from all agents. But there is a relationship there with teams where, hey, we kind of need something from you in exchange for information. So we're going to give you these scoops,

which are just transactions that could be announced. and hey, have our back if we need you, that's not something I'm very comfortable with in general. Same with agents. And here on the Purple Insider show, just I try to avoid that stuff. Like I, you know, I try to keep myself as far away from any of that as I can be. But I also have to use that information. So when you feel like that information might be tainted, it's a little frustrating. Because I just want to bring you guys the best analysis.

and takes based on what I'm reading, hearing, and everything else. And when the water is so muddy on certain things, it's like, well, how am I supposed to feel about these reports that Aaron Rogers might come here when I'm not so sure that the information is as good as it's being presented? So, and then the rumor, the rumor stuff while you, I'm hearing this and I'm hearing this and this might happen and that might happen and whatever else moves the needle. It crushes on social media. I am one bazillion percent guilty of using.

that stuff on the show to talk about different potential things that could happen. So I'm part of that hypocrisy. But you also want when those rumors and things are being brought up for the information to be gathered in a certain way that's not spun, that's not angled, that's not being pushed from someone. It's hard to find these days. So I guess that's the best I can do. And otherwise, I don't know.

Otherwise, have your memes and have your jokes. Um, anyway, so Mama says, uh, can't believe we let Cam Bynum walk. That's one they regret for sure. But I, I, the viewpoint was probably we can find another safety. And I, I really think, and this might play into it. I really think that they were buying Theo Jackson. I also think that Theo Jackson got a, a tough rap because Theo had to come into a spot where this is a playmaking deep safety.

That's what Theo does best. He is great at route identification. He has a quick twitch to him, a playmaker part of his game. And he just didn't get to use it because opposing teams were running so much. The Vikings facing the fewest number of passes in the NFL. It impacted a lot of people. It impacted a lot of people's stat lines last year and a lot of people's performances last year, including J. Von Hargrave and Jonathan Allen.

but I would say the same for even Jonathan Grenard getting sacks that he likely racks up, you know, eight, nine sacks if he is given the opportunity to get after the quarterback. But they had like 200 less passes than the team that had the most against them. That's not a Cambinem point, but I think it's a Theo Jackson point. I think that they believe they had the next Cambinam and Theo Jackson, and then it kind of turned out that they didn't. I thought the same, though, that, you know, that's a guy.

It's pretty important. 15 mil for him was the same for Javon Hargrave and Hargrave didn't really live up to it. Bynum could have been a longer term. So I agree with you. Dumer K.O. who's the Teddy 2.0 in the 2027 class. We need to continue the flat circle timeline after drafting Christian Ponder. Yeah, I don't know about the 2027 class just yet.

I actually don't know a lot about the 2026 quarterback class. Maybe the Vikings will take Diego Pavia or. Haynes King or Jack Strand or Cole Payton or something just for the heck of it. Just so KOC can have 14 quarterbacks in that quarterback room all, I don't know.

Maybe they banned the VR after what happened with JJ, but I'm just envisioning like seven different quarterbacks in a small rooms with VR strapped on their heads going. Oh man. So they might do that, but I have no idea.

But I understand. you're getting at, which is Kyler Murray plays really well then, but not quite good enough to extend for $100 million. He leaves. They draft someone else. That guy plays well enough to give you some hope and then tears his knee or something. Yeah, I know. Like it does feel that way sometimes that this team just does the same thing over and over.

I was just talking today to my friend Bob Stern, who is down in Dallas and was around when Kyler Murray was there as a great high school player. And I was just sending him pictures of like Jeff George. It's like, because Bob is a Packers fan. It was like, Bob, you know this is happening again. That's what I've been telling everyone. Like, everyone who asks me just in my life, like, well, what do you think it's going to happen with Kyler Murray?

Like, you already know. You already know. It's Vikings history. It's already written. This is, this will, this will work to an extent. And then they'll still have no answers at the end of it. I'm just kidding. Uh, Caleb says, uh, uh, uh,

just not excited about drafting a detackle in round one they seem meh totally understandable take i kind of feel the same way macdonald is a fun watch if you go and and just you know go to youtube just type in his highlights he's just grabbing people and that's throwing them out of the way and that's that's great and in the second round i'd be interested uh in the third round i'd be interested in the first round you want someone who when you're getting to that fifth year option people are talking about, hey, are they going to make that player the highest paid player in the NFL? That's just not likely to happen with someone who has no SAC production whatsoever and played one year in college.

It just doesn't feel like there's an upside there that, yeah, is not only just exciting, but also practical considering how many good run stuffing DTs there are. Chris is how about trading the 18th pick to a team for their 2027 first round pick and 26 second and third and fifth. so they have two first rounders next year to get ammo for Manning or Julian Sayan. You are going next level with that. I don't know if there's a team that would do that because why? Like, why would another team be doing it?

They would have to be desperate for someone at the 18th overall pick. They might, just like Atlanta did last year, they did something crazy like that. But that would be, I mean, in terms of actual draft capital, that would be getting destroyed in the trade to give a future first and a second and a third this year. I get what you're looking at here is it would be basically the Vikings trading back, trading their first to trade back and get an additional first, which is kind of what happened last year with Atlanta and James Pierce. If that offer comes up this year, look, they should have taken it last year.

I mean, Donovan Jackson, I don't want, when I say this, I don't want to disparage Jackson. I think he's really good. I really do. I think they nailed it. I think they got a good guard. It's hard to find good guards. It's a valuable position. So I'm not saying they missed on it. But draft theory wise, how do you not take that? Well, when you need a guard and you're desperate to get one and then you're just saying keep the ball on the fair way. But that if that deal was on the table, they needed to take it. And if something like that comes up this year, take it. Take the future first, move back, get whatever position you were going for by dropping back into the second round. And yes, the odds of that player working out are not as much. But if you can have

multiple future firsts, when you actually arrive there, I mean, that's what I've said. Like, the franchise will go on. When you actually arrive there, you're like, oh my gosh, we have two first round draft picks, right? And if the other team botches it, because if a team is dumb enough to make that trade with you, they probably will screw it up. And then you might get a top 15 pick and that'd be fantastic. Sean says I see the logic in drafting offense and letting B-Flow work his magic with the third and seventh rounders, but imagine how good B-Flo's defense would be with some elite prospects too.

That's my thought, Sean, is that they have taped and glued this thing together. And look, they've, they've paid a premium for that. It's not like, it's not like Brian Flores has just gone to Home Depot and said, all right, is there a few guys in here who can ball? Let's put you out there on defense. Like, that Van Ginkle was really good before. He was just underrated. Cashman, we knew his talent.

He wasn't healthy. And Grinard had a double-digit sacks before he got here. Stefan Gilmore is a borderline Hall of Famer. Harrison Smith, in my view, is a Hall of Famer. Yeah, I mean, it's not like it's just, and Byron Murphy Jr. is one of the, what, 10 or 12 highest paid corners in the league. So it isn't like he's just totally had nothing.

And last year, Hargrave and Allen, while they did not work out quite to the level that we thought, they still played pretty darn well and they finished in, you know, very high in a lot of different metrics, the defense as a whole. So it's not like he's had nothing. But what he has not had,

as I think you're alluding to, is like young foundational talent to bring in and develop and lock in a position. And mainly at corner, it's, you know, Murphy is a very good corner in certain ways. You can make plays on the football. he's very highly intelligent, but he's not one of those lock it down. That side of the field is done.

He's going to match up one-on-one. Everybody put that battle on the marquee. That's just not who he is. So to your point, what if they had that person? That would be good, right? That would be interesting, right? What if they had a DT who could really get after the passer? What if they had a linebacker who had like elite skill to go?

along with Cashman or even, you know, a Dylan Thineman, but they've kind of had that better version with Harrison Smith than what Theneman will be right away. But even then, like speed, the explosiveness. They've lacked explosiveness at times, it feels like as a defense, where Turner's been exciting, Grenard's been exciting at times, Cashman, but there isn't like 12 guys that you're going, man, this team is just flying around all over the place. It's kind of squeezing the most out of most of these players. so totally, totally on board with what you're saying.

Let's see. Let me get a few more comments in. And then I want to try this exercise of actually mock drafting, not just having the simulator do it for me and see what we get at number 18. Let's see, VXL Palma, A.J. Halsey or McNeil Warren for safety. I like Halsey. The difference is not that much in my view between taking Halsey in the second round and McNeil Warren in the first.

could be wrong about that, but that's from looking at both of them, LSU guy who's been really good, Toledo guy, who I'm not fully sure about how it's going to go. I don't think we should really dig him for being in the Mac, but it isn't the top conference. And he was really good, but he didn't have like 10 interceptions. So I'd be comfortable with Halsey in the second.

I like that more than spending the first round on the safety. Dumer K.O., the years between drafting Ponder and Teddy. would be exactly the same as drafting a quarterback in 2027 after drafting myth McCarthy in 2024. The Vikings are amazing. Yeah. Yep.

Well, we don't know how it's going to go. This could the range of outcomes are crazy. Kyler Murray could end up as a top 10 quarterback. It is in there. It's happened before by, you know, PFF metrics and other metrics. He's been a top 10 to 12 quarterback in the past at times with a bad franchise. He could also implode. not work. Sean says it's time for KOC to start turning some later round dudes into stars like

Biflow has done. Beflow, I don't think has actually turned later round dudes into stars. I mean, you could, you could say that for Mattelis. Mattelis, that's true. He had several years of development before Flores got here. And Bynum, I wouldn't, I wouldn't quite go star, but he was a good quality player. I mean, you could, I guess Cashman, but that's, you know, somebody else is developing him for a while. And Van Ginkle, Flores did, okay, all right, fair enough. I guess if that's what you're looking at, that could make sense. These are free agents, though, who had already played a lot in the NFL.

So it's not like draft picks that are late round picks who you develop. It's not quite the same. When I look at their late round picks on the defensive side, none of them are here. So I think that they've done a pretty poor job at drafting players for Flores and having them work out. KOC has what? I mean, Jalen Naylor pretty much is. it. Ty Chandler didn't work out. There's just not that many guys they've even drafted overall. But, I mean, it's, that's all a crapshoot. That's not one guy has to do this. Another guy has to do

that. It's just when you get guys in the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round, sometimes it's Stefan Diggs. Sometimes it's Rodney Adams. Again, you just don't know. Super Rod. Most exciting outcome and most disappointing outcome. Most exciting would be trading for up for getting Caleb Downs or Jeremiah Love, that would be wild. I mean, draft night, we're going to be sitting here. I'll be doing a draft live show on day one and day two. So I'm going to need you guys here. I'm going to need the comment section very badly on those nights.

So we can have a lot of great discussion. But I mean, if they were, okay, here's the number nine pick. Do do, do, do we got to trade. The chiefs are trading down with the Vikings who are moving up to take Jeremiah Love or Caleb Downs. It would be like, what? I mean, throw out the theory, that would be insane. So that's probably the most exciting outcome.

Well, most disappointing would probably be the ones, well, I don't, Theneman's not disappointing. Theneman's just a little like, okay, all right, it's safe, it's fair. It's just like drafting Donovan Jackson. I bet he's going to be a good player and here we go. Most disappointing probably would be the run stuffing DT because I just can't really make that one work. I can't just get behind that and say, yeah, this is going to be a great draft pick for them. Even though we don't really know on draft night, it's so hard to see that being a

franchise changer, being more than a Michael Pierce, at absolute best to Delvin Tomlinson. I just can't, can't jump so much on board with that. I think that would be a little disappointing. If they trade it out of the first round, I think it would be a good idea, but it would be disappointing. It's probably not the wrong thing to do. Matthew says, I'm glad we are talking offensive tackle is an option somewhere early in the draft conversations. We were too confident in our O-Lines durability. Them getting a little bit of extra help with Ryan Vandemark is good, but that shouldn't preclude them from going out and getting Spencer Fan O

or another potential tackle. Just DeMor K.O., Justin Jefferson would request the trade if we passed on Monsour or Delane. If he's there, you just take him. That would be the easiest, one of the easiest picks. and every year, somebody who's projected in the top 10 drops. That's how they ended up with Dallas Turner. Mr. Mayor of the Vikings decide not to draft Thineman, and he does happen to turn into an All-Star,

how Pist or Vikings fans going to be for getting cute and breaking from the chalk. That's always going to happen no matter what. I mean, this is like, I remember people with Laquan Treadwell. For two or three years with Laquan Treadwell, there was this, like, we need a congressional investigation on the Vikings for who picked Laquan Treadwell, what they missed. And this is well, Stefan Diggs and Adam Thieland are becoming superstars. And it's like, how could they not take Michael Freakin Thomas?

There are still people who show up in the comments. How could they not take Aaron Donald when Anthony Barr was there? It's like, once you know all the results, this becomes very easy to second guess, you know, your team. And you're right, because it would be more second-guessable when the whole world was saying to you, you should really just take Dylan Thineman. But if they went with a position that was more valuable and they missed on it, I would say that they were making the right decision at the time. And it just didn't work out. That is not something we could say for like the 2022 draft where you can pick that one apart logically pretty easily.

I think with drafting, that's all you're looking for is did this make sense at the time? Um, I'm just going to, I'm just going to move on from the Mike Vrable, uh, comments, guys, you could leave them and I will maybe chuckle at them, but I'm just going to, just going to carry on from those, uh, son of, son of beavers for, uh, day two or three running backs. Who would you like to take? It's easy, Judarian Price. And then it's Emmett Johnson, Jonah Coleman. those are probably my two favorites.

Those guys are low ceiling, but I also think they're good football players. And you can get a little bit too caught up on 40 times. And well, he doesn't have this and he doesn't have that. Emmett Johnson has been a very, very good football player. And so is Jonah Coleman. And either one of those guys, I think would be good players for a role. I'll just throw out like,

they'll be Ampley for you. you or something. Like, they're going to be a good role player, but not likely to be a total game changer. So it's Judarian Price or Bust kind of for me with the running back class and then go, go, go day three. Go Desmond Claiborne. Demand Claybourne. Look for home runs.

See what you could do there. I've asked a couple people, like, hey, is it really this bad? And everyone's like, yeah, it's really that bad. It's really that bad. Matthew says it's a shame. The Wilf's don't want president of football ops because, now we can't call Rob Brzezinski the president. That's pretty good.

I just also think it's a good idea, regardless of calling him the president. I think it's a good structure that they seem like they don't really want to do it that way. Then if you hire an outside GM, here's what I want then. I want as an outside GM, if that's who they hire and not Rob, I want it to be very, very clear who is in charge. I want it to be the GM is the guy and he's making, he is calling the shots on this roster. That doesn't mean no input, but it means final say, it's on him, this, oh, I guess we're going to collaborate and then we decide, you know, whatever, no, no, no, I want this guy to come in and I'm the dude, I'm the one calling the shots, I'm the one building this team, and off we go.

I don't know that the wills always want that. I think they want collaboration. They want everyone to feel heard and everything else, but the way. that it initially worked with Spielman, I think it continued to work this way and caused some problems eventually, but Spielman was the final say. And Scott Studwell told me this years ago when I asked him about scouting and how it worked. And what Scott, what Studwell told me was, as a scout, he went out and he gathered his information and he came back and he presented it to the guy in charge and Rick called the shots and he respected that. Like, this is the chain of

command. This is how it worked. And I respect. This was his view. I respect you, Rick, to make the calls. And you're going to get some right and you're going to get some wrong. And there's some I'm going to love and there's some I'm going to hate. But that's the chain of command. I don't know that it's felt that way over the last few years, but I do think that's the best way for it to be done. If you're not going to have a president of football ops who is overseeing the entire thing, then give the GM the power, give them the power to evaluate the coach, give him the connection with the Wills,

like report to the Wilf's on what he feels like the coach and the coach's future should be. That's how I think the best structure should happen. Guard guy, good to see a guard guy. It's been a while. They've had good or at least decent guards and you just disappear. You're a guard guy come lately. Any chance that they could have Donovan Jackson play tackle in the future. He's definitely guard shaped, but enough talent to be an okay tackle.

I don't think so. I think NFL tackle is just a different beast. He was a good tackle in college, but NFL tackle is a whole new monster from what it would be at Ohio State, where you're just filling in and trying to play that role. I don't think he's got the length to do it or the chops from, like, I mean, he's got, he's got good footwork for a guard. But tackle takes so many reps. I just think it's really hard to throw somebody out there.

Like Joe Tuny, when they put him out there, it was amazing. That's like a Hall of Fame level guard. It was amazing that he was hanging on for dear life. But even a guy who was the best guard was having some troubles when he was out there. So I would not want to view it that way. Guard guy says if you don't extend O'Neill, don't draft Fano and you need 2027 first round quarterback. Jackson would have to play tackle. They would have to get somebody else.

I just don't see him as being a tackle. Phil says BPA every pick. Yeah, but if you do that, Phil, and you draft players that are not going to have the same impact as other guys that might be slightly below on your ranking. The problem with best player available is that it's really a thing that could be very, very close. You could be looking at your draft board and have one person ever so slightly ahead of another, but one guy's a corner and the other guy's a fullback.

Like we just, I know that that's an extreme example, but I look at a run stuffing DT is he might be the best player available, but I just can't pick that there. That has to be baked into best player available. Forrest's, uh, Delane has Jeff Okuda vibes in his play style, but 30 inch arms out on it. I don't know, man. I, that's, that feels like you're kind of just picking a, picking a bust. Is that really what he was? Because, I mean, Okuda was a phenomenal, phenomenal prospect. But he really couldn't use the.

same level of physicality. Is that what Delane does? I have not watched a ton of him because I'm assuming he's off the board. I mean, I know that he's very jacked and stuff, but there's a, I think that there's probably different comparisons with, and also the arm length thing, it matters because all Okuda did was use his long arms and physicality in college and then he couldn't do that as effectively in the NFL. Also had some injuries. Anyway, Stephen says, I'm more sold on Judarian Price with his production and low mileage. Yeah, I like price a lot. I think he's a big, play monster. I really do. I like him a lot. Let's, uh, let's, let's, first, uh, let me get you a quick message from our friends and ZipRecruiter. And then let's take a

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Let's, uh, that is the ZipRecruiter read. So let me flip over to. There we go. PFF and the mock draft simulator. So here's what we're going to do. I'm going to roll through and make the picks for every team. Just, just fire off the top of my head. Here's who I think this team's going to pick.

And then we'll see where we're at at number 17. Number one overall, not a hard selection. We'll go Fernando Mendoza. Number two, I am going to go. chalk here with Arvel Reese to the New York Jets. The Arizona Cardinals could always do something crazy, but I think that pass rusher makes a lot of sense for them. So does tackle.

And sometimes tackles are a little over drafted. So Francis Maui Noah is a guy that I'm certainly considering here. But let's just go with David Bailey. We'll give Arizona a pass rusher. They need absolutely everything. The Tennessee Titans, I am not going to go Jeremiah Love for the Tennessee Titans. I'm going to go Sunny Styles, get a franchise linebacker to continue to build around.

New York Giants. Ooh, could they go Jeremiah Love? I know that they have Cam Scataboo, but that shouldn't keep them away from doing it. Did they need pass rush help, not really? Corner help, wide receiver. Could they go wide receiver two, even though Malik Neighbors is coming back? Now we've already found ourselves in an interesting spot with, the New York Giants.

I think I'm going to go for the Giants with Caleb Downs here. Let's get them a defensive player to build on. For the Cleveland Browns, I will go Carnal Tate, who just seems to be the most mocked to them, and they need anything and everything but wide receiver for sure. Jeremiah, I love to Washington. The New Orleans Saints, who this is where it gets a little tricky. The Saints make sense for me for Monsour Delane because he's from LSU. but also Ruben Bain, I'm going to go Delane to the Saints.

Now, here are the Kansas City Chiefs, and I'm not doing trades down. Could they go Kenyon, Sadiq, or Mackay Lemon here? This feels like the reason I say Sadiq is, I mean, how much longer is Travis Kelsey going to play? Could they be looking for another yak monster? That would be a shocking pick. I think I'm going to go, and Jordan Tyson's here. Lemon has some weird stuff with his interviewing, but I don't know. He's just a very talented player.

Could they go offensive line? Now I'm having trouble figuring out where Ruben Bain goes. I'm just going to go Mackay Lemon to the Chiefs. We'll get them a wide receiver. They need weapons. 10th is the Cincinnati Bengals. This feels like Maui Noah. Do they need offensive tackle, right?

Maybe not. Maybe not. defensive line linebacker. Could they go Ruben Bain here? Let's go Ruben Bain for the Cincinnati Bengals. You can always use more defensive line. The Miami Dolphins at number 11, just anything, everything, all of it together at once.

They need it. So they're going to go Francis Maui Noah, the offensive tackle from Miami, but I could have literally picked anyone, and it would have made sense. Dallas Cowboys are on the clock. would they take, would they do something crazy like taking a linebacker like C.J. Allen? That seems very Dallasy to me to take a linebacker.

They also could use corner. I'm kind of going off some of their needs that are listed here on the simulator as well. We have not had Vega, is it Eone, the really, really good guard here off the board yet either. Spencer Fano is still here. Monroe Freeling is still here. Kenyon Sadeek. I don't know if they would take Sadiq. I'm going to have them take J.

Jermad McCoy, though. They'll do something smart. Here is the Rams at number 13. They need a tackle. So is it Freeling or Spencer Fanon? I think they need a tackle. It lists that as something they need. They could also go wide receiver.

Let's go Monroe Freeling to the Rams. Now we get to the Ravens. They need a lot of stuff too. Wide receiver, guard. Oh, let's go guard here. They're going to go Vega, Ione. here from Penn State. Sorry if I'm saying that wrong.

Please someone correct me if I am. I haven't looked into the guard class. Maybe I should be, but I have not looked into the guard class. Now we're at Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay needs a lot of stuff. Kenyan City would make sense for them, but they just resign their tight end.

So some of the needs here, I'm not sure, totally fit. They can use defensive players, a replacement for Levante David. How about we go with that? That might be a reach for them, but a replacement for a Levante, David C.J. Allen from Georgia.

Let's go with that for Tampa Bay. Now, the Jets are on the clock. They need literally everything and anything in this entire universe. But wide receiver seems high on their list. Also, Kenne and Sadiq would make sense for them. I don't know what their tight end situation is, but it can't be great. Sadiq or Jordan Tyson or maybe Omar Cooper. They could also take Dylan Thineman.

their head coach is a defensive bat. I'm going to go Thinam in here for the New York Jets. They didn't take the ball away at all last year from anybody, so they're going to get a safety slash nickel corner-ish. The Detroit Lions have to take a tackle. I don't see any other option for them, so they take Spencer Fano, and now here we are. Let me switch over to my fan chat to see what you guys think.

Dumer Chaos is Rams of the highest I've been considering Sadiq. Yeah, Sadiq is overhyped. VLX says, I don't know, man. I like him. I like him. Okay. So you guys are not being highly critical so far. So Jeff's drafted a tight end high last year.

Okay. Okay. I wasn't sure what their tight end situation is. Deep, deepest apologies for not being sure of the Jets tight end situation. But I didn't go that way. I went with a secondary Dylan Thineman. So the Vikings can't get him. He's off the list.

So what do we have? Now, let's go back to the draft here. And what do we got? Sadiq is on the board. Jordan Tyson's on the board. These are hard for me not to take. Akeem Messador, who was mocked to them, Emmanuel McNeill-Warrin they could do,

Keldrick Falk. I like all of these. This is, this right here is a classic, this is why we talk about trading down. So earlier, let's see what's on the board here, potential PFF trade simulator is giving 22. This is a trade down for me. 22.

Oh, yeah. Okay. 22 and 66. We got to do that, right? 22 and 66 for 18. Let's do it. We're doing that. So let's move down to 22 and have the mock simulator freeze.

Okay, great. It froze. That's awesome. That's awesome. Maybe you shouldn't fire everybody who works there. But, uh, all right. Well, let's just assume that we traded down now. Oh, wait.

No, I'm, I'm drafting everyone. Actually, it wasn't. Sorry, I took a shot at you PFF, but it wasn't your fault. I'm drafting everyone and I forgot. So it didn't freeze. So now the chargers, they are going to take, uh, Jordan Tyson would make a lot of sense here. Also, Messador, they brought back Khalil Mac, but is that a long-term option?

Keldrick Falk would make sense for them. Let's go. let's go for the chargers. Let's go Messador for the Chargers. They get a pass rusher. Carolina, they could probably use Sadiq. They could use Tyson. They could use defense.

Hmm. What's Carolina going to do? Haven't looked at Carolina mocks. Needed to prep more on who was drafting 19th. Let's go for Carolina. Let's go with. Kenyan Sadiq for them. Now to Dallas.

Who do we draft for Dallas the first time? We drafted Jamad McCoy. Let's get Dallas. Caldric Falk. Get them some D-line help. For the Steelers. Let's, I mean, we should make the Steelers draft Ty Simpson here, shouldn't we? Let's draft Ty Simpson to the Steelers.

Even though I don't know that this is going to happen. Let's just go tie Simpson to the Steelers. And now the Vikings are on the clock. Jordan Tyson would be. very hard for me to say no, Jordan Tyson with 22. McNeil Warren, though, at 22 is a different proposition for me than 18 alone. Avion Terrell, Omar Cooper Jr., that's a good pick. You still have T.J. Parker on the list. Caleb Banks is here. Peter Woods is here. There's a lot. There's a lot of talent still on the board. So let's just go, uh, let's go McNeil Warren at 22, but we also get

the 60th pick as well. I think that that demonstrates pretty well right there that trading down a couple of spots. If you can make it happen, then, yeah, and I know, I know what you're saying, not a twerk that no one's trading up, but they might, but they might. Sadiq would be the big swing. Dennis says you set this up with how you wanted to fall. I really didn't, though.

I really actually just drafted, like, I kind of was trying to do it as fast as I could to just be like, this team bang. this team bang, this team bang. I wasn't trying to set it up to have Jordan Tyson on the list. I was just looking at teams and going, well, what do they need? What might they draft? He might go earlier, but I think that there's wide receivers that are going to be there. It feels like similar to the Addison draft where a bunch of receivers ended up there

at the back end of the first. Sadiq would make a lot of sense to do it there. But we don't, yeah, we don't know if, we don't know if someone's going to trade up or not. That's why it's so freaking interesting, my friends, and why we talk about it so much because we don't know what's going to happen, but there are a lot of different options.

So thanks everybody for dropping by. I'm hoping that you have a chance to take a look also at the conversation I had with Emily Liker. She does a great job covering the Vikings for the Minnesota Star Tribune. And tomorrow plan on getting together with former PFF or Max Chadwick, who does an awesome job covering college football. And we'll see if. If there's another live chat in it for us tomorrow, I'm hunting down.

Look, if you got ideas, here's what I want you to talk about, whatever, like, shoot me a note, send me a DM on Twitter or an email, Matthew Collar at Gmail. Like, it's, there's not a lot going on right now. So the whole world's talking about some reporters vacation and not necessarily a lot else. So I'm very interested in your ideas, thoughts. and what we should be talking about on the show. I love these Q&As, mock drafts, going over other mocks, stuff like that. So I had a great time again here tonight.

And we'll do it again very soon.